An Honest Look At... Need For Speed Heat

[@XeonIsWeird]

I actually loved this game, way better than nfs payback

[@bossitronio658]

No

[@TrashSKSplayer]

Payback was dog because of the upgrading system lmao

[@supercarsnaviation6148]

But you can’t sideswipe police cars into oblivion 😔😔

[@Largentina.]

@@bossitronio658 What do you mean no? That is his opinion.

[@fl5099]

NFS PayBack was a Crime for car games .. Horrible

[@clumsygarage1578]

I personally loved how vulnerable you feel at night in a low level car, although there is a pretty absurd difficulty spike between heat level 2 and 3.

[@RealStreetPA]

Yeah the chargers are very fast.

[@Fosten12]

@@RealStreetPA Corvettes

[@ex_vitae]

PyroManiac the chargers are pretty fast, the Corvettes can catch my 352 lvl Huracán. It’s crazy

[@flusteredweasel7483]

Thats how it was back in Most wanted 2005. You went from Cruisers to GTO back in the day. Honestly i prefer a dumb hard police force

[@phoenixgamer3480]

@@ex_vitae Yeah, even if your going 170 miles per hour or higher, the cops just won't give up when you're heat level is 3, 4 or 5 and when it's 5, forget about it.

[@syclone]

INHO NFS needs more low level cars to start, not a freaking M3. (Take Underground or Most Wanted for example - starter cars were Civics/Pugs/trashboxes not performance vehicles.) And more older cars, modern ones aren't everyone's thing.

[@maxxtheender]

I agree that the 240SX isn't a great car by itself, but it's Japanese cousin was pretty cool and should've been in there instead. just like the AE86 should've been the Japanese version. also you can start with a 65 mustang, or a 180SX Type X, and the BMW M3 is late 80s. not even a E36 whatever was before that one. so they're not the best starting cars, but I would like some more starter options as well as some older cars, perhaps that'll be part of the DLC for this game.

[@MrWalkr]

For the most part there is quite a few older cars, and there is also Civics, Golfs etc. So I'm not sure why they didnt start us in the Civic over the E30, but for the most part the cars are there

[@Tom90Y]

Yeah didn’t get why they put the vw beatle, the 90’s Honda Civic etc in the mid-late game unlocks. They should have been at level 1

[@Starfire_Storm]

Well, UG kinda needed to have trasboxes as starter cars since the best car you could get was an R34. On the other hand, MW used pretty decent cars for the time, I mean you could use a Golf GTi as a starter car, that's not really a shitbox. Besides, games like Carbon already offered the Mazda RX-8 as a starter car. If they used modern day decent sports cars like in MW, you would be looking at cars faster than the E30 M3.

[@niToitsyeSkxawng]

thats because the games are based on the time they were released in. Back in the early 2000s your starters were these "cheap" cars because it was popular to mod them, now youve got all those newer and higher end cars because look at the internet. All the social media platforms are stuffed with widebody lambos, BRZs, BMWs and so on. They did it to cater to the majority of "car people"

[@coalburn7916]

This is probably gonna be completely buried, but turning on traction control in the live tuning menu completely removes the drifty handling. It's like playing a Blackbox NFS again.

[@dinkelbroetchenlover]

This didn't get buried and it just made me want this game more!

[@GuitarQueero1]

Thank you!

[@randomfaca]

it would feel similar but drifting slightly still is the fastest way around most corners

[@Smeggit7]

In the old games I loved taking out the cops, a strong offence was a good defence. In this game I smack a few cops then get busted cos my car can't handle it.

[@nath7486]

..... you havent got the passive module that decreases the damage you take from crashing do you.

[@Smeggit7]

@@nath7486 I just got it, only been in 1 cop chase with it installed and I blew up before taking out 1 cop.

[@nath7486]

@@Smeggit7 well, idk then. The cops were fine to take out for me lol

[@acerusea5156]

@@nath7486 get a Challenger which is a big blocky boat that can demolish cop cars and take hits

[@Marrrrtin]

You have to be more strategic in this game. The aim is more building up rep and escaping, rather than trying to have an endless pursuit and take out a million cop cars.

[@Speedstar235]

You wanna know how to fix the balancing of the police? Lock off the high heats until later where you should have a more powerful car. It's reason for progression and it makes sense lore wise since they wouldn't waste their time on a greenhorn. They did this with MW2005, but its even more needed here since the cops could actually total your car.

[@ROLLINGFANATICS]

It so easy to lose cops tho . All jumps are now the new pursuit breakers , the cops crash off when you hit a jump . Just gotta have strategy .

[@ItsJustJoshGaming]

Or play the game the way you’re supposed to by cashing in your rep knowing you can’t stay at night any longer

[@liuby33]

@@ROLLINGFANATICS It's easier to type something than actually playing the game right? Early game you cannot even survive till the first jump when the heat goes to 3+.

[@oscarfunez3806]

@L maybe avoid high heat levels. If I only got busted 4 times early game during progression surely enough its not just my skill level

[@alonsuberi7560]

Or they can invest all the money they made from they're old good games and make the cops smarter and maybe use some real police pursuit tactics

[@warkus123]

The police cars just have insane acceleration, my 800hp S5 easily gets outaccelerated by Heat 2 crown vics, but they top out at like 140mph while my S5 goes on to 225mph.

[@oscarfunez3806]

Crown vics can go faster and they are relatively slow.

[@Ben-Rogue]

Was the same in Payback. I'd be doing like 220MPH and a Crown Vic would rubber band past me at like +100MPH

[@oscarfunez3806]

@@Ben-Rogueonly if they are focusing someone else

[@oscarfunez3806]

@The Archangel thats dumb logic. If I have a slow car. With cops in it. Am I fast now?

[@tehbobb08]

@@oscarfunez3806 He never said it was good logic, he said GTA logic lol

[@SeekTheTruthForYA]

I think they bugged the drift parts by giving them to much grip, putting on speedcross parts make drifting a hell off alot easier

[@bellarosa_]

Speedcross parts with Drag tyres end up making the best drift experience, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[@kommandantkillcode]

Akashi Well it does, because Speedcross parts are designed to be less grippy than on-road and even off-road equipment which allows for the off-road sliding that they do. The Shocks would be the same minus some fine tuning between the off-road and speedcross, but certain parts for controlling the type of power output in the vehicle through the tires, drivetrain and other surfaces that endure friction would be the parts that would affect Drifting and Speed-cross the most. So combining the best parts from both would increase the drifting ability of the car and probably the off-road ability too.

[@kommandantkillcode]

Akashi Oof, thought that you had typed “Drift tires” not “Drag tires”. Yeah I don’t know how that works either. Ghost will probably fix it in the future if you notify them. Or at the very least, they’ll tell you why it works.

[@ex_vitae]

Yeah, I loved the drifting in Payback (only part of the game I actually kinda liked) and I liked almost everything BUT the drifting in this game 😂

[@JGSkywalker]

@@ex_vitae that's the problem, the "tap brake" drift mechanic was introduced WAAAAY back 2010 in Hot Pursuit. So we kinda got complacent with 4-5 NFS games with the same drift mechanic. But I figured out the drift mechanic here after a few days of practicing. It's just really a lot of throttle tapping, instead of holding it down like a mad man.

[@lyndonleckie5058]

The ai drivers and their cars have specific speed etc. When you start an recommended 240 event, the 2/3 cars in front have that power score. But the cars in the back still have the 200/160 score. Pay attention to the cars and driver names. At the beginning of the game you race against a 140 Mustang named Sparky. When you start the 200 races he still drives but at the back of the pack.

[@ChainsawChuck13]

I actually love it when games do this; good catch.

[@Fosten12]

I noticed that too. i love that they do that. The game feels alive like this

[@lyndonleckie5058]

@@jahimuddin7380 hhahahahah

[@kacbor6848]

@@jahimuddin7380 and Rico... even if i have 400+ M3 GTR he is still fast af

[@nibwit4650]

If you look at the day/night select screen youll notice that the same mustang is all the way in the back

[@speedfreak9758]

Turning TCS overrides the tap accelerate to drift and most grip builds stop drifting and become full on grip with little to no drifting. If someone wants to go with full on grip car which honestly makes driving more fun for grip build because throttle management becomes more of a thing especially on corners

[@andikamirza7141]

So throttle management not only for drifting?

[@jackdren9974]

@@andikamirza7141 ofc not lol

[@CheeseMeeseGetCheesed]

hey uhh whats tcs please i need help my grip mustang slides like a boat

[@speedfreak9758]

@@CheeseMeeseGetCheesed go to live tuning in freeroam by pressing right on d-pad. You will see TCS (Traction Control System) off. Turn it on

[@smudge2021]

@@speedfreak9758 ew traction control .. you leave me and my mx5 alone lmao

[@firewalldaprotogen]

the "police are really hard" and "the early game is hard" actually makes me want the game more, personally; i like hard police, and also the game is hard while the novelty of it still exists then by the time the novelty wears off it should be easier (i dont know i dont have the game yet but i really want it now)

[@aidenromine1000]

Cody Wolf I agree with you

[@Starfire_Storm]

Well, I don't think that the police Is as hard as in NFS Rivals, but it's pretty good and fun, not frustrating like Rivals

[@Sovereign86]

They aren’t “good” hard though... they’re “bad game design” hard. As in, they’re borderline cheaty and WAY too tanky. I’ve T-boned a basic crown Vic at 100+ mph and it barely took any health off of it but it took MY health down by like HALF! That’s BS man, in the most wanted days the different cop cars came with different strengths. But in Heat, they’re ALL tanks bro, ALL OF EM. You can watch anybody’s gameplay and see that they barely take any damage no matter how hard you hit them. Everybody is saying the same thing so we’re not lying. They’re just broken. Plain and simple.

[@GozuTenno962]

@@Starfire_Storm rivals pretty much was murderous cops

[@GozuTenno962]

@@Sovereign86 it will be good when they add boxing tactics and lower the cop cars health.

[@samaltayr453]

One of the reasons I cannot get into this (or others) is that the camera shakes when driving and the sides become blurry. It's a bit too much of an arcade feel to it as opposed to Forza for example. If it wasn't like that I guess I would like it more but it just irritates me. The camera was zooming in when you slowed down. Like...why? If I want to change the camera angle I will do so myself. The fact that game does things like that or that it shakes or is blurry is just too much for me. I'm not sure if I'm alone in that - I hope I'm not - but hey...just what I think.

[@skrungusVEVO]

press c to change the camera bro

[@mrwafflez000]

its for sense of speed, something Forza really lacks so 250mph feels practically no different that 50

[@EMETRL]

you can turn off motion blur. you can change the camera height.

[@CurtisSmal]

@@mrwafflez000 the sense of speed on heat is ass 100 kph looks like 20 and 300 looks like 200

[@luigisalcedoii6077]

@@CurtisSmal lmao u shouldve seen nfs payback's sense of speed , comparing heat's sense of speed to payback's its definitely a small step up

[@ii_berzin_ii9079]

If you take all race and track handling parts then the cars drive really really well. Absolutely no sliding. Also grip builds are competetive as well! I just got to rep level 50 using only grip cars and it was awesome. The grip cars feel satisfying to drive.

[@DV-ou1yu]

Facts

[@chad6876]

They actually faster too. They've gotten rid of the speed boost you would get in 2015 and payback with the b2d.

[@Anvarynn]

I have a full grip M2 Competition that, honestly I still end up sliding certain corners because I can't turn drift off completely so if I pop the brakes to take a corner I'm more than likely going to get thrown sideways even though that shouldn't be possible, and it's faster to take that corner in a slide. But soft corners I won't even lift the gas just plow a driving line

[@kacbor6848]

Also it might be a little bit weird but grip actually drifts better (for race not for drift events)

[@6Twisted]

The game looks good at night, but during the day (especially the first city race) it looks washed out and bland. Also the player model looks like it was ripped straight from GTA5.

[@codyc5787]

Play it. Its bot that bad. It looks baked in because the setting is supposed to be Miami (HEAT, the font.. get it)

[@blakebarberich5083]

Absolute Unit Ladd and heat as in the cops are big deal in heat or how some people say that they have heat on them meaning cops

[@o5ku983]

You have hdr on?

[@shisnoelite7790]

I'm happy to hear you are enjoying Heat. I wasnt gonna buy it but I played the trial for Access and I was sold

[@clivelambert-oe7kg]

for the price im honestly surprised anyone want's it ima atleast wait for the price to come down give it a month it will be atleast half

[@jakey_200]

@@clivelambert-oe7kg It's $100 for the standard version both physical and digital in Australia. The prices for AAA titles here are over-inflated. Even if you converted the currency from the price of the US release it would still end up costing about $10-12 less. Not going to spend that much on a game that I'm not too sure if I would like since I'm not a fan of the driving physics of the modern NFS games I remember hating Hot Pursuit 2010's physics it felt so floaty to me I had an easier time controlling the cars in Driver on the PS1 and that game is 20 years old.

[@dujebasic2604]

@@jakey_200 physics are much more enjoyable and better once you put your car to grip

[@lupavo1738]

@@clivelambert-oe7kg It's on sale right now during Black Friday week, its almost 50 percent off with XB Gold, not sure what the PS4 sale is.

[@bakedstreetyt]

you shouldnt because its trash and overpriced

[@markheath14]

Man I love this game and its gimmicks. Hard difficult is a joy, but yea there are some balancing issues that EA will hopefully fix. If it helps, jumps over gaps seem to break the cops so you can use them to get away pretty easy. Especially jumps to roofs and the like.

[@NaruSanavai]

Note: Terminators, in my experience, aren't typically fooled by jumps. I'll always have at least one make it through, right on my ass.

[@marczamp4737]

I hate when drifting acts like that, completely ruins it.

[@user-rj3qc2kx1i]

it looks awful to drive

[@rampant_racer8684]

I don't think you're actually supposed to countersteer. That's what I found on Payback, anyway. I treated it like a mobile game where it countersteers for you and that worked for me

[@FalbereChan]

@@rampant_racer8684 i actually like the idea that you dont countersteer manually, because in real life drifting, after initiation, you'd let go of the wheel and it would counter itself, that is why i feel it makes sense if you let go of controller, game should countersteer the car.

[@e1extra974]

It is kinda annoying but to be fair, it is an arcade game

[@anthony-li5hp]

@@FalbereChan this is true but it very very much depends on how well the suspension and wheel alignment is set up if they could work that into the suspension and differential upgrades in the game that would be sick.

[@ii_berzin_ii9079]

Using speedcross parts is how to set up a drift car because the speedcross tires and suspension give you much less grip on tarmac and that prevents the car from gripping up so much.

[@ZenoClipz]

The game certainly does get better once you can acquire much better performance parts for your vehicle. I've completed the game, made enough from the many well-paying race events to buy a Laferrari, and have gone on many different night runs since. It's exhilarating reaching very high speeds as you weave throughout traffic with the cops glued on you due to the rubber banding. I would say it's a good thing to have the cops as overpowered as they are; it presents a challenge with the risk and reward system that influences how many races you want to complete before being busted. Crowned also posted a video on his channel showing the best locations to escape high heat levels, which helps a lot if you're a lower level or simply if you want to get rid of the cops very quickly. It's quite simply some of the most fun I've had against cops in a long time in racing games for the last several years.

[@ProfaneGod]

Trouble is nowadays games companies are trying to make games where they try to get maximum profit for the least effort i remember when they tried to fit in as much content as possible more levels more upgrades harder difficulty more features unfortunately most games are just a money grubbing cash grab now bring back the times when quality and content ruled the gaming scene than pretty graphics and broken promises are, its the same with early access games too some dont take feedback from players seriously and others actively ignore players suggestions saying "they dont know how the game could be better" and others destroy a good game by taking away features while trying to claim its better while distracting others with a new map, item or they just add microtransactions which ruins games as a whole

[@حسينعليصاحب-ل4ق]

He judged the drift mechanics while using a damn challenger. C'mon man, you're better than that.

[@NaruSanavai]

That's the thing: _all_ of the cars do that. Some less or more than others, but the fact remains. What's funny is, in AWD cars (particularly the Lancer Evo X), it's not as noticeable, since the front wheels are maintaining both direction and power, though this..."course correction" model does still exist. But, people have been tinkering and coming up with builds that seem to defeat this - what is basically aim assist for steering, if you will - handling model.

[@majestymxnt7384]

Sounds to me like he doesn't know much about cars in the first place lol.

[@abzrulz1]

SLINDER MAN He should do his research on cars in general

[@amini011]

the physics does that, the cars weight are not individually taken into account in this game I'm fairly sure.

[@soulessification]

Hmph. I destroyed every drift event and drift challenge event with a '69 Charger.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

I miss the days of Need for Speed being a simcade racing game. Classic Need for Speed games leaned much heavier towards the simulator side when it came to physics, only on open roads with jumps and police chases out of an arcade racer. Midnight Club 3 looks like it has more realistic physics then Heat does.

[@GozuTenno962]

Nfs was never simcade. Far far from it.

[@ashutoshbaluni3188]

>NFS was sim-cade >Can drift a FWD Peugeot ok boomer

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

@@ashutoshbaluni3188 Oh look, another person who thinks Underground was the first Need for Speed game!

[@ashutoshbaluni3188]

@@scottthewaterwarrior FYI The first game I ever played was NFS II.

[@marceloguia6107]

Tbh I consider 2015 a pretty good game. Other than the unpredictable handling and the crashcams I had no real issues with it. It felt like a return to the old NFS style and comparing Payback with it, Payback was the hot pile of garbage for me. Yes, the handling was more predictable, but it was so predictable and easy, that I literally had no challenge in that game... At least in 2015 you could somewhat learn the unpredictabilty of that handling and react accordingly. Yes, sometimes it just banged you against a wall for no reason, but for the most part you could prevent it... Heat kinda lools like it's in the middle so far. I don't like the fact, that some cars seem to be affected by brake to drift even if maxed out on grip, but other than that, looks like I might actually buy it. The aesthetics are good, the atmosphere seems similar to 2015, which I really love to see and the customization seems to be back in full swing... Not to mention no MTX and the fan service they made, by remaking the old cars properly this time around.

[@Taz_XE076]

I'm in the same boat, but the drifting you see Alex do is completely optional. Turn on "traction control" and you'll only drift when you force it to

[@marceloguia6107]

@@Taz_XE076 But I heard, that that appearently makes the car handle like a boat. Some even comparing it to 2015 grip builds... I guess I'll have to try it out for myself if I do buy it...

[@karlostrino3620]

@@marceloguia6107 It depends on the build. When you have a full grip build with TCS on, it grips like a monster and does absolutely not drift, and it does not understeer so much like in 2015 and Payback. I can confirm this as I drove a fully grip-tuned Evo IX throughout most of the game. Mountains are a breeze to drive through

[@amricnwhre]

On the drifting part of the review, it’s actually brilliant. It has a much higher skill ceiling than a lot of recent NFS, you have to feather the gas & get the angles just right or the car will throw you out of your drift. It takes time to get used to but once you do it is incredibly fun & satisfying. At first I thought the same, that it was botched & terrible. I got my 180SX to do it a bit & had fun, then I bought a Viper & was really sliding. Give the drifting a bit of practice & I promise it’s so so good.

[@smudge2021]

how can you get the angle 'just right' while using a controller your either at lock left lock right or centre steering!? also do you always have to feather the gas, because if holding at one angle then its fairly 'realistic' but as soon as you start to add more angle to get around a tighter upcoming corner or transition do you have to for example hold in the gas as you adjust for angle or for sexond example let off let it oversteer and catch again?

[@amricnwhre]

kyoAnimosity kyoAnimosity No, the steering doesn’t lock left or right, there’s in betweens. You just gradually move your left stick for more of a slide & if it’s too much you gradually let off of it to hold the drift. I think you need to let off the gas to get it to snap to the other angle, but I could be wrong. I don’t know if it’s realistic but it’s a lot more fun & intuitive. I used Showcase parts on my cars & they slide just fine.

[@nibwit4650]

It also comes down to how to build your car. Running all drift will give you too much grip.

[@xFredman]

3:12 Me so used to GTA after the car breaks the tree: **what**

[@dreyn7780]

Yeah, you know they DO REALISE male perfectionists will play the game. They also DO REALISE dumbass jackasses will also play the game. They are NOT here to teach people to not hit trees with cars. If you can’t tune a car then that’s your problem. If you drive through trees, that’s also YOUR problem. You should realise by now, that YOU ALSO can’t say anything bad about the product cause YOU TUNED IT TO DO WHAT IT DID. They’re NOT reinventing computers with each game they make. They’ve all got the same calculations of the numbers. In this day and age, it’s ALWAYS user error. These ‘reviews’ are SO stupid! I think they know how to calculate blue sky. Etc... Red looks like red. They’re NOT going to change it for you. The fact is, all the cars drive EXTREMELY WELL. You just can’t tune and see fine details. There should be NO BAD reviews! We KNOW you’re full of shit if you say anything bad about computer games from now on!

[@dinkelbroetchenlover]

@@dreyn7780 Damn that's a male Karen we got here lmao

[@dreyn7780]

@@dinkelbroetchenlover game developers aren’t anyone’s friend. They’re allowed to screw the consumer by forcing people to do stuff. Game developers are WAY too suffocated for their own good in 2020. Don’t care about game. They’re NO reflection on the user. Vid makers ARE allowed to communicate to people of the future. The vids don’t have to apply to you at all.

[@dreyn7780]

@Khalil Benson that’s why we’re ALIVE! Mostly we’re re here now to talk and that talk gets read by ROBOTS, not humans.

[@rubenduplooy4192]

@@dreyn7780 calm down jamal

[@KashouWannabe]

Forza Horizon + Initial D + Wangan Midnight = my perfect racing title. Please please someone (not EA), someone (not Bethesda), anyone (not Ubisoft), please make it happen.

[@ZacharyAlicandro]

Just give it a couple of years, as Playground Games will eventually have to go to Japan for one of the Horizon installments. By then, with any luck, Toyota will be back, PGG will have gotten over their insistence of literally throwing cars at people, and will be able to take full advantage of whatever the current-gen hardware is at that time so that we can have a huge map capturing the Tokyo expressway, a small racetrack like Ebisu and some mountain passes.

[@killahh999]

Im trying to imagine Bethesda making a racing game lol

[@NerfMaster000]

@@killahh999 It would be more buggy and crash prone than a fully modded game of SLRR.

[@marianogomez1664]

Try the Tokyo Xtreme Racer series for the PS2. They were my childhood racing games aside from Gran Turismo and Need for Speed Underground

[@VoodooMadMike41]

FH is cool but it's boring on its own. Also, no sense of speed whatsoever.

[@Barry3819]

billboards, jumps, speed zones and drift zones in the open world? sounds alot like burnout paradise.

[@88swordmaster]

or midnight club for ps2 XD

[@knightsofthefallen5]

They set it up perfect for criterions takeover

[@dreyn7780]

Mate, shut up! No one is listening to you from now on! If you think computers can’t calculate, piss off! Piss off and go eat your Turkish delight in the arcade.

[@jacobeisen11]

it looks like a ghost town you are driving in.

[@shawklan27]

That's one of my biggest gripes about it imo

[@elvishendrix676]

Jacob E. Speedbeastxx To be fair, during night, the city shines and kind of reminds me of the good old Underground days, but yeah, during the day, the map feels pretty dead..

[@ketrub]

@@elvishendrix676 and yet even this little traffic can screw you over with basically RNG deaths

[@dujebasic2604]

@@elvishendrix676 Its beacuse when you race at day those races are legal unlike at night

[@Sniblet]

Would _you_ want to be on the streets with Player Character screaming around?

[@DeesBees85]

The only NFS that handled police really well was 2010 Hot Pursuit, and that was because you had defensive items to combat the police, and the events were designed as single races, so they could tune things to make it as fun as possible, without being unfair. That game was so good and I would do anything to get another game like that.

[@fatbroccoli8]

OG most wanted

[@espen7367]

Drifting: build a car for just road. In live tuning change steering sens to max and down force to 0.

[@subfloor2022]

At first I found the cops frustrating, but you get a very satisfying feeling of accomplishment when you start building cars that can beat police. Now I'm so high level they are easy, and I miss the danger.

[@maxxtheender]

So I played a good 5 hours of the 10 hour trial with origin acess and I easily got to the level 10 trial cap in about 3 hours, however this game is really satisfying to drive in. I like a blend of grip and drift personally, but you can tune your car for either no slide or super slide-y. and the game lets you know how much customization is available for a car before you buy it (anywhere from the FFX K only having License plates and rims/brakes/tire to the 180SX having a Silvia S13 front end and even changing the fenders and hood on that still. Admittedly I have a few gripes with the game, having a lower end hardware optimization issues, and cops being a little bit unbalanced, but i still think this a good NFS game. I do plan on eventually getting it, just don't have the cash at hand to pay the $53 plus tax to get it on PC. I even convinced my friend to get it on his PC after showing him gameplay and customization etc. and we're both hardcore NFS Fans (played NFSU1 all the way back when i was like 6 and that was over a decade ago, and been hooked on cars since)

[@martinarscott3524]

I'm up to rep lvl 48 and finished the main story, on the whole I've found it good fun, only gripes are the story was too short, and the music is terrible, but that was easily resolved by killing the music volume in the audio settings !

[@theacehavin7918]

It definitely left room for a story expansion dlc

[@NaruSanavai]

@@theacehavin7918 Yeah, it definitely ended like there was another chapter or two missing. There's also that entire left side of the map, across the delta; that's prime real estate for a full-blown expansion.

[@RacinUltimatum]

With the drifting, you cant countersteer unless things are going really wrong. If you wanna widen out the slide, you gotta let the stick center and adjust inward from there. Countersteer is only to change direction.

[@AdikMusicOfficialTM]

i don't care what people say NFSHeat is the best NFS ever... (Car Customisation \ Character Customization)....

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

If 2015 and Payback are anything to go by, I think I know what's going on with the drifting. Never countersteer unless you want to straighten out. Either turn IN to the slide or have it at neutral angle. IDK why it's like that. Otherwise, Heat might actually be worth picking up once I'm relatively sure EA aren't going to add something predatory.

[@4idiots_garage]

the drifting is exactly like payback, but the handling is more like the run.

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

Yeah it turns out they just straight-up fucked up the drift tires and the only way to build a semi controllable drift car is to use drag tires. Ghost games, you sucked, good riddance.

[@Happensmaker]

30:00 It's not effective because the dmg system is messed up and doesn't really work at all. Sometimes it just doesn't make any sense, pay attention next time in a police chase. There is a mission (small spoiler) where you need to protect your friend from a police officer and there you have to "destroy" that officer (HP to 0). I rammed him three times in a row into his right side and the first one was even a strong ram, but no HP loss. Right after that my friends AI turned right and the police officer did the same but rammed my car into the side. What happend? The police car lost 10% HP and I got out with no dmg. The system is just messed up, while you get dmg for no real reason or get dmg for being on the offensive and ram a police car into the sides (the police car gets no dmg obviously).

[@Crazee73]

@FailRace - Tip for the drift events (they are still insufferable, but I've found this helps immensely). For some reason, full drift builds are absolutely disgusting and never work correctly. Use a combination of Drift, Track and On-Road suspension parts to put your handling balance directly down the middle or slightly to the right. I've also heard of using Drag tires to help out. It definitely makes it more intuitive; take a lot of speed into a corner and whip it sideways, and it'll hold like you would expect. IDK why full drift makes the whole car a piece of garbage, but a more balanced setup worked for me for now w/ a Viper.

[@AhsokaTanoTheWhite]

I wish they'd return to their old "Hot Pursuit 2" days from the late 90's early 2000's that was the last good Need for Speed game I rememeber them making.

[@FalbereChan]

They did. They had been making those types of NFS games for most of 2010s. Hot Pursuit 2010, and NFS Rivals are the names if you want to play them.

[@leedlefly]

NFS Rivals was the closest thing to the old days and not many people enjoyed it (mostly because of the insane amount of microtransaction)

[@mfThump]

part of the issue of drifting feeling weird is the dynamic 3rd person cam. definitely give hood cam a shot

[@positivesquad]

I like everything about this game except the really really bad driving physics weird hitboxes and the fact that palm city is a ghost town. 6.9/10

[@NaruSanavai]

It's a ghost town...until you don't need it to be. Ahem, looking at you, drift zones, speed traps, and jumps.

[@dreyn7780]

No, we don’t believe you. Who are you anyway, mister ford? If you can see a blue sky in the game, then you can also realise they got the driving aspects down perfectly and it’s YOU who has all the ego problems. How DARE YOU tell us computers can’t calculate! Stop commenting you insane little git!

[@JakeAce13]

I am commenting while watching this: To the drifting part, I had the same issue starting drifting in heat, since it has the same kind of steering correction it has on all the cars in drifting. It basically feels like the car is set on a line in the exact middle of the car which it gets pulled on and when you steer you basically drift out of line and get pulled back in line by the handling model. However I managed to make it work by not countersteering as much at all and rather just not steer at all when I would usually coutnersteer. That way it does what usually happens when countersteering rather than putting you "back in line".

[@TGIJustin]

My biggest gripe about the police at night is that when playing in Online with friends, if one person in the entire server has a heat level above 4, the amount of police that spawn around is absurd. Makes it impossible to move without encountering a police car

[@steelvenom330]

I Just want a remastered version of Need For Speed Underground 2

[@Sammael66685]

This gets quite closer to that by the look of it.

[@CouldBeInteresting]

@@Sammael66685 IMO you're correct, I've put in about 16 hours into Heat and like I described to my brother, It's kinda a cross between U2 and 2005 Most Wanted. Not quite as good as either one but still pretty good. It's the most fun I've had in a NFS title since Carbon.

[@RealStreetPA]

@@CouldBeInteresting this game has a very NFS carbon feel to it. Glad someone else noticed this aswell.

[@nath7486]

@@CouldBeInteresting i agree with the love child between mw and underground 2, but i think its as good as those 2.

[@ScotSteam47]

I really enjoyed Carbon, felt it got a bad rep though for some reason, it was the last NFS I played. I did remember the story being a little too cheesy, was probably growing out of its dialogue lol

[@vipvopvoy2350]

Tbh I’ve been playing this game a lot, and the physics may not be realistic, but it’s certainly fun.

[@Tysonknight0121]

I preferred the tap-brake drift option, play on hardest setting & you will find there isnt that much to spend on & you'll max your reputation to quickly, the longevity of the game is limited, given the potential for more after you finished the story. But it's the best NFS since the carbon/undercover days.

[@jahimuddin7380]

I like the handling. Grip is finally faster than drifting and I do not mind gas to drift because I have found that easing on to the throttle will eliminate sliding. It is overall very fun. The police are great, they are really difficult but still easy to get away from if you take ramps and jumps. I have only done two of the drift missions in my speedcross Miata but I have never been good at drifting so I do not have anything to say about that.

[@ashclayton3273]

biggest thing ive not seen anyone talking about that was one of my favorite things from mw 2005 is pursuit breakers, are they not in this game at all?? i loved having my escape route pre planned mentally and smashing through the environment disabling cars, that would also address the difficulty level if you were smart you could disable cars much faster than you.

[@PreacherwithoutaPulpit]

The quick glimpse of the Challenger Drift Car setup you have showed it is all the way in the corner which would appear to be exactly 50/50 Road and Drift respectively, could this be effecting your Drifting as the Road portion of the setup is causing the card to find grip? No idea not having played this game it's just something I noticed. Thanks for sharing all these awesome driving games with us. I really enjoy the GTA V hunts as well as the Forza ones...

[@lucaskane5364]

"A little something for everybody" -Alex 10/10 IGN

[@Marine5D]

The last NFS game with good drifting mechanics was NFS Carbon. Loved that game. I wouldn't even mind if they just update the graphics of that game and reliese it.

[@lmao-ev6nz]

The drifting in carbon was awful

[@Silver19897]

I think the drifting events are a bit more geared toward certain kinds of cars. Different cars seem to be a bit more suited for different events, so if you find the right one, it could work better for you.

[@jeffcon123]

Just started playing… it did take a while to get ok…. Once I unlocked the corvette from the special edition download I fell in love… I’ve spammed some money glitches and honestly it’s just fun… haven’t done the story much just… got my cars leveling up

[@AncientVlogger]

For drifting - - first, get rid of the ground effects. You need less down force, not more. Second, you don';t need massive power. You just need to break loose, and then sustain the throttle while carefully balancing the counter steering. Last - just like in real life - the cheaper the tires the better. You don';t want sticky.

[@crazyviking1797]

The funny thing is, they know what have worked in the past. But somehow they've forgot it? Something I reeally would have liked is a Burnout Paradise 2, maybe not with that title. But with same game in mind. Arcadey, some what realistic crash physics that are fun and over the top, open world and some good high speed racing. And also something optimized for controller, so it feels good to drive the car and ofc fun. We have a shit ton of games with "real" car controll physics, we don't need every title to try to do that. I haven't liked the recent car controlls in NFS, haven't played Heat yet but seems weird. I hope I'm not alone in feeling this, and also sorry for the spelling :)

[@MrWalkr]

Well they sorta already did do a Burnout 2, Most Wanted 2012 was sorta like a Burnout 1.5 😂

[@crazyviking1797]

@@MrWalkr I get where your coming from with that response, but its honestly not. It's 0,2 of what Burnout Paradise is imo. The thing is in Burnout Paradise the cars would look all kinds of fucked up. Sometimes they drive off when your like how the fuck is this car still alive?.. But you never get that nowadays because the damage models are dogshit.

[@Sebastian-yl7nq]

I actually really like the grip handling in this game, but this “tap to drift“ while going away from the throttle and back on it is a pain in the a××. Like, guess what you usually when trying to take a sharp corner. You lift the gas, break into the corner and 100 throttle it again ... but this is where the game throws you into a drift!

[@GozuTenno962]

Grip tire and traction control will solve this

[@Darkhalo314]

You can change the tap to drift throttle button to make it like previous games where you have to tap brakes instead

[@TKalib3R]

I think something that should've been mentioned is the drift boost being taken out or at least heavily turned down. Drifting is now on par or even at times slower.

[@TheFinalEvent97]

One of the problems with police in the early game is that the Repair Kit and Damage Rduction upgrades aren't unlocked until a pretty high level (27? I believe) and the Elite versions until 47.

[@cailear7512]

The handling of the cars and all is very good it's better than Payback

[@joshXnovak1]

I’ve had the same issue with drifting. It snaps right back in counter steer, but if you don’t counter steer, you spin out. Also, the method of initiating is drift is so unpredictable. Like you said, letting off the gas in corners, and then accelerating out (as you would) initiates a drift on a grip build, but if you’re in a drift race, in a “drift” car, it won’t cut loose like in those two corners. I’ll wind up taking out the barrier or slamming a wall because it won’t kick out IN A DRIFT RACE IN A DRIFT CAR. The drift “setup” sucks, and you have to use speedcross, which is for off-road drift and screws up the look of your sleek, low wannabe drift missile by lifting it to the heavens.

[@mwmmatt1]

I hear a lot of people complaining that they can't grip without drifting when feathering the throttle, and I don't really get why. You need be smooth, and not slam on the throttle. You can easily go for several races without drifting once, just ease onto the power. Is it just me that never had a problem with this? I always thought it was a pretty good system, rewarding smooth inputs.

[@sootcoot8712]

It'd be interesting if a racing game did not have a rating system to go after but instead a system where your opponents level up with you. Their price money affect what improvements AI do to their vehicles, just like you do. With a somewhat personality system with it too, that some npc's prioritse engine and gearbox upgrades while another ai choose brakes and tires. If a npc lose a lot in the start it may be coded in to save the money for a better car, instead up maxing out their upgrades. It would certainly increase the replayability for singleplayer and quite possibly you find a rival to compete with. Uncertain if same system would work in multiplayer. Maybe for longer tournaments or special events.

[@michelekingtiger]

I was just watching your latest survive the hunt video, while look at reviews for this game before I went ahead and got it. I was really happy to find your review on this game!

[@TheBoostedDoge]

About the police, they do have some maneuver like the rolling road block where one goes ahead of you two go on your side and another behind you, they do PIT maneuvers and the most annoying is a when a Charger goes slightly in front and turns towards you then ebrakes hooking the player car to it then another comes flying and crashes into you

[@purpleturtle8841]

The way I justify the difficulty spikes and dips is that for the spikes, the level is recommended and it is so for all drivers so there will be some who are in high level cars because they want an easy win. For the races where you're a low level but demolishing everyone else (usually drift and off-road), it's because they don't know how to build their cars. I had an off-road race where my car was 218 and the highest level was 310. I was lapping everyone. In my next playthrough, I'm definitely going to ramp up the difficulty though so the races seem closer. Anyway, just wanted to say, I like the early game. I think it might just be a me thing, but early game always seems fun. Just a bit saddened by the choice of cars.

[@adammidderigh4150]

So glad I'm not the only one who feels that way about the drifting. Most of the critic reviews mentioned it as being particularly good, but I'm having that exact same issue...all drift spec parts, plenty of power and yet the car just regrips mid drift , even with nearly 700 lbf/ft of torque going through the rear wheels....... like seriously? Great game otherwise though, Oh yeh and 30:14 idk how you havent seem them.... you do get Rhinos coming for you, a lot in fact. They come in at heat level 3. I had a chase yesterday where 4 rhinos charged at me in the space of 2 minutes, great AI on them too.

[@Marrrrtin]

Don't counter-steer. If you're doing that, that's your problem. The game manages that for you, and instead thinks you're trying to turn. The other key thing to note is, if you have too much angle or too little, the drift will end. You have to find that happy middle ground of angle to extend your drifts. Also, I'm seeing a lot of other people recommend certain Speedcross parts over Showcase parts for better drifting. Not sure how effective that is, but that might help too.

[@adammidderigh4150]

@@Marrrrtin Ok I'll try the speedcross parts, dont think its my steering input though. I've tried A LOT of different styles, counter steering to start with but when I realised that wasnt working I resorted to just honing throttle control... still doesnt seem to work. The issue is that in Heat drifting the happy middle ground just doesnt seem to exist, the cars just jump straight from too little angle straight onto massively too much angle. You also cant seem to adjust your positioning mid corner as you should be able to, so if you dont get your entry line 100% spot on then you're f***ed; gently lifting the throttle just throws you off instead of slowing the car down and allowing you to re position it. There's a whole thread on the EA bug reports forum of many people with the same issues. I would get it if I usually sucked at drifting, but I was in the global top 100 for drifting in the crew 2 , yet cant even pass a single trial in NFS xD needs tweaking imo

[@JakeAce13]

To the first point about the AI: I palyed online with a friend who was ahead of me so I had to drive races vs 300-360 AI with a car that was 260 at the beginning and only got better over time and had no problem going second after my friend on first(who was in a 380 car at the time) before any of the medium AIs. When putting the AI to Hard difficulty I had the experience that on long straights the AI would annihilate me but when cornering I was able to catch up but often times only made it to 3-6th place behind the AI and my friend(while still being 50+ "gear score" below recommended). As soon as my car got on the same or even above the recommended levels even the hard AI is jsut super easy. The only well programmed AI are the cops in that manner, where heat 5 chases are an actual challenge when not abusing any tactics to avoid cops. But I see how it can be hard to balance an AI without rubberbanding, although I think a hard difficulty AI should definitely not make a difference between 2 miles distance to second place or 1 mile distance at the end of the race.

[@nobodyknows5007]

My favorite races are in that corvette fully upgraded to 400+ and doing the high heat races. They are so much fun imo

[@RarelyTrollingGames]

You should use the speedcross parts for drifting. It gives the right amount of slide as well as retaining control coming out of turns

[@dseer13]

For drifting you want to maintain torque. I play manual so its a little bit easier; you approach a turn tap handbrake and down shift so the wheels keep spinning then tap the throttle to maintain torque. then you slide. controlling and maintain the slide with respect to the turn is another story. I guess with automatic; you would tap then tap the throttle to keep the wheels spinning? Drifting is very realistic in the game

[@ww3479]

To get the best out drifting try using straight drift tires not the drift and race combo, and when in drift gently nudge the stick in the direction you want the back end to kick out towards.

[@ArgueWithTheMajority]

About the drifting... I personally haven't played this game, but if that giant wing has any sort of effect on handling in NFS, you might want to get rid of it. The way the car straightens out looks like what a racing wing would do, sort of. I'm really wondering if the wing does anything in-game. Great review and video though.

[@soundwraps]

the higher level your drift car, the easier it is to hold those long turns, just modulate the throttle and toggle back and forth between steering and counter steering to keep it on a line, it gets more fun lol and my Aventador SVJ has a supercharger and you really hear the whine from it, pretty good game I think

[@johnbuscher]

This game actually doesn’t look bad. I kinda wish this engine was combined with some Ridge Racer styling and we got an open world Ridge City game.

[@hellvein]

You don't have to counter steer the car so you can drift , just tap the gas for exteded drift and turn more for more angled drift . Ohh , and get a good car for drifting (180SX 3rd engine).

[@TheFlyingClutchman]

Only just started playing Heat but it feels like drifting is the same as Payback. It took me a while to get used to it but basically you dont want to counter steer unless you want to straighten up. instead you need to steer between full look and a straight wheel

[@SparksV]

Might be a stupid suggestion, but from what it looks it seems like the game has either a counter-steering-assist on or the traction control is aggressively turned on for the drift events. Hope there's an option for that. Haven't been interested in a NFS game in a long while but this actually made me curious about Heat, hope it'll be on Steam soon (probably next year when EA Access hits Steam) so I'll check it out then.

[@Jack-us9fy]

I’ve been watching you from your tdu2 (test drive unlimited 2) days and you are one of the best youtubers that I like p.s good vid👍🏼

[@basithph8958]

NFS Heat shows the series coming back to form It’s really good

[@Name-kd5jj]

I bought this game last night, haven't had a chance to play it yet but it looks good. I liked Payback despite its problems so hopefully Heat is better. I think i 'll go with the Corvette again. I used it all the way to the end in the Payback and never regretted it. As far as the drifting i haven't played the game yet but i would suggest trying a Japanese car like an RX7, 240Sx or Silvia. You want something thats lightweight. The Challenger will have a lot of power but its just too heavy. So that might be your problem, but like i said i can't say for sure.

[@MrWalkr]

Didn't agree with the 2015 review, the Payback one was about 75% agreed on, but this was spot on tbh.

[@ragingfred]

The game doesn't list it but there are parts of the map like jumps you can take which will lose the cops which act like pursuit breakers.

[@Lorens1997]

Use speedcross parts instead of drift parts for your drift cars. They'll tend not to grip up as much and it'll be easier to hold the slide.

[@WorldzMo5t3pic]

Just imagine if Need For Speed had a proper modding community. Dear god that'd be a sight to behold. Unfortunately the franchise is owned by a company that'd _charge_ you for such services.

[@jedfritze9329]

I say keep the cops as hard as they are. I love the good adrenalizing chases. The night gives me carbon vibes and i love it.

[@JakeAce13]

And one last thing I am definitely disappointed about interior not being customizable. Either interior like in udnerground 2 where you could go crazy or at least having the opportunity to go for different colors/material on seats etc really is missing, basically got to put black windows on all cars to not see the interior not matching the exterior

[@fg786]

I want all races to be like the toughest one in NFSU1 (1 I think it was) where you drive against a golden brownish Honda S2000. That race was madness. No matter how perfect you were driving you would win only by like 0,1 s or try to blocking im off. You aren't first from the get go? You will probably never catch up.

[@Zsword92]

Why is there so many AI BMW 1 series coupes?

[@DILLIGER90]

watching how pathetic the drift physics were just made me wish for a prostreet 2 even more

[@datjordanlp5226]

In regards to the drift events you have to do a lot and I mean A LOT of playing around with the throttle and steering

[@clivelambert-oe7kg]

They might as well let you crash into the bleeding buildings everything is breakable even concrete bollards bleeding thick trees etc so fumb

[@Arch-Tau]

It's good, you don't have to worry about going through destructible things and then hitting the one indestructible object.

[@Fosten12]

And then there is trees. And youre fucked

[@roadrollerda9113]

clive lambert they need to add a special car that requires you to crash into buildings around the map.

[@clivelambert-oe7kg]

@@Fosten12 even the thickest of trees you crash through without reducing your speed mate £40 for a forza game with a fortnite skin :(

[@clivelambert-oe7kg]

@@roadrollerda9113 that would be a good idea its like they made this game super easy to try and win over fortnite players lol :D

[@trebor22031982]

Heat looks very good How do the cars handle, or can you change that In previous NFS titles, i have found the cars sometimes act like tanks and do not want to turn How does Heat compare to NFS Undercover, Underground 2 and Most Wanted? Also, for drift races, i would try using a MX5, as they are very loose in the tail

[@ItzzzBeamo]

The thing I noticed with tuning for events is if a car doesn't seem like it was "intended" or a mainstream go-to for a particular type of event, it does poorly. like, that Challenger probably doesn't drift that great despite having drift parts because the game expected it to be built as like, a drag car or a circuit racer. I bought a 93 skyline for offroad races and despite applying every possible "rally" part that was available to me, it still performed terrible offroad.

[@GozuTenno962]

I guess some cars are more suited to off road for example the buick gnx and the lancer

[@makotokeisatoruko8203]

10:59 reminds me of Pro Street.

[@SpyderSeven]

A lot of this game has little nods to ProStreet. They brought back the whole festival vibe with the Speedhunters events and I love it

[@dreyn7780]

There’s no jokes around here! I bet you’ve never made a street in your life!

[@firewalldaprotogen]

you should take a look at "Street Tuning Evoloution" when it comes out; its made by the same people who made SLRR.

[@KuhlerMaen]

The crowd funding failed like 4 years ago

[@CouldBeInteresting]

@@KuhlerMaen It's still being made, It's just taking longer as the devs are working contract jobs to fund it instead.

[@firewalldaprotogen]

@@KuhlerMaen then why was there an announcement about it by the devs sep 19, 2019? steamcommunity.com/gid/33510716/announcements/detail/1603768207557662221

[@racedriver43]

@@firewalldaprotogen Completely different devs from Invictus Games. The people working on the project now have little to no association with the OG SLR:R devs.

[@firewalldaprotogen]

@@racedriver43 then why does SLRR appear under the games that the "new" devs have made? store.steampowered.com/search/?developer=ImageCode

[@johnnyrobinson2673]

This is the first time in months I've had a notification for an upload thanks KZbin

[@Kalandaari]

About the drifting bit, you don't have to counter-steer, the game manages the drift for you, the steering just serves to point the car where you want it to go, so you steer when you want to change direction while drifting. It sucks, driving physics suck in recent NFS game, but that's how it goes. It's hard to get used to (so hard that it made me abandon NFS, which was my favourite racing franchise back in the days), but that's how it works I think, it was like this in previous NFS games (NFS 2015 and after), I haven't played that one. However I played NFS Underground 2 recently, on PC, and there, the driving physics were SO GOOD ! Good god I wish they (Criterion games, the studio behind recent NFS games) played it, just to feel how a good arcade racing games feels like.

[@TuffMelon]

The first optional race you have i failed twice because both times the finish line didn't spawn. The second time the game crashed, too.

[@Phantom-ff9ni]

To Make this game WAY BETTER it should get better colors more colorful and should also get better car control.

[@DV-ou1yu]

So I realized High Power/Speed cars are terrible for drift, but if you customize a car with high acceleration vs those other two, you shall be fine. I have a drift NSX only at lvl 277 and 3 star everything. Now the real tricky part is being able get the car to drift in the direction you want because the drift physics are a mess, but once you figure out when a drift is enabled, the easier it becomes. Also tap-acceleration drift is better for this event because you don't slow down. But once you realize feathering the throttle and steering/counter steering....you can put together some insane drifts. It took my about 3 hrs to figure out how to drift correctly in this game. Because once you get stuck in the slide section of drift part, the physics keep you stuck in that animation meaning you can straighten the car and still drift it back into a slide without having to tap-accelerate. Once I realized this I was good. And action cam helps you know if you're stuck in this animation loop or not. If you're in the animation, just control the direction and speed of the drift. Easy!!! The cops can be evaded easily by jumping onto roofs lol.