An Introduction to the Etruscans and Etruscan Civilization

[@mfcamillus211]

Between the Etruscans to the North and the Greeks to the South, the Romans had some pretty good neighbors to learn from, conquer, and assimilate into their upstart civilization.

[@janespright]

Nice to see that I find all my obsessions regarding ancient history in one channel :D

[@HistorywithCy]

That's awesome! Hope that you have more ancient history obsessions because I've got a ton of new stuff coming in the next few months! Thanks again for stopping by!

[@janespright]

@@HistorywithCyI can't wait!

[@DATA-qt3nb]

What about a potential video on ancient pre greek/phoenician Sicily?

[@chasr1843]

I appreciate the loud volume on this video. You can always turn the volume down but you can only turn it up so far - Very good vid too.

[@MiThreeSunz]

Cy, thank you for the great overview. Being of central Italian descent, I have been enamoured with the Etruscans for many years. Although I’m not an ancient history academic, I’ve done cursory research on their origin, language, social structure, customs, etc over the years, which has barely scratched the surface of the vast bodies of work. It would be great if you produced follow videos addressing the areas I mentioned so that we ancient history neophytes can learn more and benefit from your professional knowledge and experience.

[@JDG602]

Seems odd that the Etruscans are not even mentioned when discussing Rome in some cases. It appears Rome owes a debt to the Etruscans. Thank you very much for this Cy, your work is very much appreciated. One of my favorite channels to go to when expanding on my studies.

[@susettehorspool2646]

The Etruscans also taught the Romans how to design & build roads, bridges, and sewer systems. The Roman colosseum games were based on Etruscan community games as well. The Romans just took them further into actual killing. 🤥

[@HVLLOW99]

I love learning about the Etruscans such an underrated civ

[@florenceneri8240]

Je suit franco italienne mes origine par mon pere etrusque toscane

[@claudiamarianidamato9499]

Thanks so much for this!!’ There needs to be more documentaries on this civilization. I’ve been to Volterra 3 times when I go to Italy for the summer. Volterra is such a spectacular place. I’ve been in the museum there too ! There is also a medieval festival there every summer . It is so amazing!

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks for stopping by the channel and glad you liked the video! You're in luck! I'll be touching up more on the Etruscans in 2020 as I get into ancient Italian and Roman history... stay tuned!

[@ASRomaCalcio15]

Sei incredibile pero lol

[@fuferito]

07:43 That's a very suggestive piece of earthenware.

[@wolfsbaneandnightshade2166]

Sees something about the etruscans. Me: "stop everything... I need this to live."

[@vincaman5664]

More in depth into Etruscan origins: Herodotus does indeed claim that Etruscans came from Northwestern Anatolia, however this was an attempt at explaining why Etruscan culture was so wildly different by putting them near the edge of the known world. Dionysius of Halicarnassus later disagrees with Herodotus, claiming the Etruscans had to have been native to the Italian peninsula. Besides, claiming a Lydian origin to the Etruscans doesn't explain their wildly different language or culture, as the Lydians were also patriarchal Indo-Europeans. Also, recent genetic studies on Etruscans have revealed their genetics to be very similar to, but not exactly identical to, modern Italian populations. With our current vaster understanding of pre-Indo-European Europe, we can say that the Etruscans (the Villanovans, proto-Villanovans and the Terramare culture to the north) were native Italian Etruscans and the Indo-European Italic people came to Italy later, around 2500 BC. If Etruscans were of Anatolian origin, cultural and religious similarities and aspects of Indo-European culture would be natively present in Etruscan culture however more similarities between Iberian culture and Etruscan culture can be drawn than with Lydian culture (viewing the afterlife as a journey and such.) All Indo-European additions to Etruscan culture are Greek or Italic. Some scholars have drawn some similarities between Indo-European Anatolian languages and Etruscan but Etruscan scholars, historians and linguists largely see this as a mere coincidence or faulty methodology. In conclusion, the Etruscans were almost certainly some of the last remains of pre-Indo-European culture and no cultural connections to Lydians can be drawn besides some linguistic coincidences. Also no archaeological evidence of Etruscans near the sea of Marmara.

[@HistorywithCy]

Yup, I think you're right. Herodotus based most of his conclusions on hearsay and not firsthand accounts or from his own research. It's not just the Etruscans that he has wrong, but many other peoples. Still, I admire his dedication to his work - his Histories is always a great read.

[@janespright]

Vinčaman I see that you touched the topic of genetics. I found it interesting that the genetics of Bos taurus varieties that were used by the Etruscans had particularities not found in Italy or Europe but closer to the Near East. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2189563/ That does not mean necessarily that they came from the Near East but maybe that they have developed complex trade relations, which is a known fact for Bronze Age cultures

[@LuisAldamiz]

That's an interpretation of the Italianists. Today we know that there was a major demographic change in Late Bronze and Early Iron Italy and that includes not only the areas conquered by the Indoeuropeans but also those conquered by Etruscans and Sicels/Siculi. Only Sardinia retained the old Italian genetics (it may have been increased in fact with refugees from the Peninsula). The Ligures and Ausones seem aboriginal (Neolithic-derived) but all the rest of protohistorical nations of Italy are invaders: the Indoeuropeans from the North and the others from the East. My take is that maybe the Sardinians and Ausones (Sherden and Weshesh en las listas de "pueblos del mar") invited the Etruscans (Teresh, surely from Asia Minor) and Sicels (Shekelesh, seemingly a Semitic group) as allies in their struggles against the Italics. But maybe they just went opportunistically on their own. In any case Italy was split among the various invaders in the transition between the Bronze and Iron Age that the Greeks called the Dark Age.

[@vincaman5664]

janespright the genetics are indeed a very interesting topic, indeed I do believe I've heard of that study. The Etruscans were certainly of Near Eastern origin, migrating into Europe some 9000 years ago. They likely brought their cattle along as well, something which would not have been possible if they were fleeing Lydia. Indeed, along with that study another study was conducted, on noble Etruscan remains. Both this study and the study you cite have some issues which Philip Perkins discusses in "DNA and Etruscan Identity". The bovine study can be used to support a far older migration. As for the Etruscan DNA study, another study was conducted to check the results of the previous one which found a correlation between Etruscan samples and Near Eastern samples which shared a common ancestor which was found to have lives about 7600 years ago. (S. Ghirotto et al., 'Origins and Evolution of the Etruscans' mtDNA')

[@vincaman5664]

Luis Aldamiz please see my other comment. It is correct that within Europe the highest Neolithic admixture of Neolithic DNA is in relatively isolated Sardinia. However, we simply have no evidence for Etruscan migration and indeed there is continuous settlement in the Tuscany area without many disturbances or invasions. Burials changes and cremation was adopted, imported from the Northern societies of the Urnfield systems but settlements remained the same and besides new types of wares, people's lives remained the same. You haven't mentioned what group you speculate Etruscans belonged to, which I hope you did because the scholarly consensus among archaeologists and linguists (except a few who are rebelliously claiming Anatolian Indo-European or Hungarian origin). We have no evidence of a proto-Etruscan society in Anatolia. I believe you're getting these names "Teresh", "Weshter", etc. from the book of Esther from the Old Testament of the Bible. I shan't ask why poor Cy's comment sections draw so many people citing the Bible as a source but I must say that the Bible is not a reliable historical source, taking into consideration the story of Exodus. Even seemingly reliable old historical sources such as the Histories show their biases (the Greeks linked their enemies, the Etruscans to Lydia, at the time Persian territory and an even bigger enemy of the Greeks.).

[@DJDaveRave]

Another great video Cy! Definitely one of my favorite channels on KZbin.

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks so much, I appreciate the kind words and support! If you have any ancient or early medieval history requests, let me know and I'll see what I can do. Thanks again!

[@GRAMBONER314]

I studied the Etruscans when I was 13 @ St Georges English school in Rome. They Ruled.

[@HistorywithCy]

Yeah, I didn't know that much about them until recently. I definitely want to revisit the topic! Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it! More to come soon...

[@happycompy]

Wonderfully done! This sort of 10 minute-ish video format is PERFECT imho. Liked and subbed, looking forward to more! Do you play Total War?

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks so much, I really appreciate it! No, I want to play Total War but know that if I do, that'll be the end of me... I'd play it so much that I wouldn't do anything else. I remember how many days of my life I spent playing Civilization... ah, the good old days!

[@davidbrewer9030]

I read somewhere that an Ancient Greek writer said that the connections of trade between the Ravenna/Rasna and Qartqazad/Carthage were so close that they could be considered one people.

[@deflategate1297]

So it's pretty much like living with siblings but ones gets famous and the others forgotten

[@abracadabrablah]

Etruscans or Etruscants

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi! As far as I've read, "Etruscans." I at least haven't seen Etruscants unless it's written than way in another language. Thanks again for stopping by!

[@abracadabrablah]

I was just making a stupid joke, I’m not good at then though lol, great video my guy!

[@HistorywithCy]

@@abracadabrablah haha ok, sorry my bad. Thanks again!

[@mikloscsuvar6097]

Etrus cans integrate into the Roman (Proto)Empire, but Germ(an)s eventually were fatal to it.

[@Giovis968]

Etruria, tirreni , tusci , toscana :, land of tusci in latin

[@johnliu1123]

Anyone else watching this for school?

[@Jammer307ng2]

Me for a flex day

[@pablolloyd1450]

Great video! Thanks

[@HistorywithCy]

Thank you, stay safe!

[@starnorthstarnorth]

I watch your videos for school! I mean, sometimes they're assigned, but you just seem to condense everything I need to learn so easily, that I just watch them, and it just helps me take notes, so I end up doing good in class, despite the fact that history is my weakest subject! so glad my history teacher introduced me to you, so now I can keep succeeding :3

[@Evagelopoulos862]

Lucius Tarquinius Priscus, or Tarquin the Elder, was the legendary fifth king of Rome and first of its Etruscan dynasty. He reigned from 616 to 579 BC. He was prohibited from obtaining political office in Etruria because of the ethnicity of his father Demaratus, so Lucius Tarquinius Priscus became king of Rome. Demaratus,from Doric royal house of Bachiade, came from the Greek city of Corinth with his entourage,architects,poets,potters ecc. Demaratus became through his sons the ancestor of the Roman race of Tarquinia and the ancestor of many noble Roman families. His descendants were the three kings of Rome and the first two advisers when the Roman Republic was proclaimed.

[@sahinyaman2185]

Trq, trc, rasenna= asena shewolves🐺 of Köktürks or khazars

[@MaurizioStefanelli-dd7yo]

@@sahinyaman2185 trq remember TARCHNA or TARQHUNA. 🤔

[@sahinyaman2185]

Thank You I did not know that

[@SaadBinAlamgir3345]

Brother if you name the background song properly. It will help

[@biljanamilanovic1682]

Ho visto tantissime mostre dedicate ad Etrurschi, poi sono stata a Cervetri di vedere le loro tombe, ho visto tanti documentari alla televisione su loro e ho pure letto molto su di loro e abbiamo studiato di piu' su di loro anche nelle scuole e lo stesso il tuo video e' molto interessante e professionale. Tanti complimenti e grazie!

[@Liquidsback]

That's going on the play list.

[@HistorywithCy]

It'd be an honor to be on the list, thank you!

[@Liquidsback]

I'll also promote you on Kings and Generals.

[@HistorywithCy]

@@Liquidsback oh awesome, thank you! I love that channel!

[@duckvenom]

2ys ago my sources told me these were a mysterious people who appeared and disappeared in about 100 years. Now i have better resources. :) thanks Cy!

[@HistorywithCy]

Thank you, glad you found the video useful! More to come, stay tuned!

[@drkrobinson]

they weren't mysterious, they were africans who were skilled at high cultural living...civil government administration, etc...

[@robbabcock_]

I'm addicted to your channel! ;-)

[@ThePolka]

Thank you, Good job.

[@holdingpattern245]

I think the Etruscans were probably a Pelasgian group who settled Italy after the Mycenaean collapse (possibly also descended from Eteo-Cretans?). Certain ancient Greek writers argued this, except that they dated it to a few centuries later and thought they were named by a great leader named Tyrrhenus, both of which are easily disproven, however it is often extrapolated that these writers must have also been incorrect about the Etruscans being Pelasgians, even though this is hardly what the evidence suggests, quite the opposite in fact.

[@AFK_AFK]

@HistorywithCy Very interesting civilization they are. Their language is not Indo-European and according to Heredotus their roots coming from Anatolia. But even if they came from Anatolia; those times there may have Indo-European language. So is there a chance they are Turkic and their language Uralic?

[@brandonchdib5380]

I thought I was tripping when I saw the soldiers 😂

[@jamessuper7855]

Please, Cy, I believe you are using the term 'understated' when you intend 'overstated'. If I am wrong, teach me why. Your Channel is one of my favorites. To say that a civilization's contributions cannot be understated is to imply that they are unimportant.

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi, thanks for your comment and stopping by the channel. Oh man, totally not my intention and big slip of the tongue. Yes, I totally mean overstated...like simple words cannot represent the importance or magnitude of their contribution... that's the gist of what I'm trying to say. Sorry about that but thanks so much for pointing that out... you're the first one to do so and I'll for sure be aware of it since I use that form of phrasing all the time. THANK YOU, I really appreciate it!

[@jamessuper7855]

No prob. I notice this first on a Sumer video, then the Etruscan one. Glad I can help.

[@HistorywithCy]

@@jamessuper7855 Yeah, it's definitely something I'll watch out for from now on when I review and edit these things...thanks again!

[@guylenejoseph43]

Great video

[@HistorywithCy]

Thank you!

[@ricardo82shadow123]

Such a beautiful video... why don't you do a continuation? =)

[@HistorywithCy]

Would love to, just don't have the time to make all the videos I'd like. I might revisit this topic in the future as I get into Roman history. Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it...more to come soon!

[@earthspeed]

Hello Cy, excellent as always. One question, any theories of greek origins of the Etruscans? Troy perhaps? I think the Iliad mentions something.??

[@Saanichian]

This is an impressive effort, this channel. It helps the viewer "get the gist" of who these people were and how they impacted western civilization. Outside of school, most people will not make a close study of The Etruscans in their spare time. Just sayin'. But this is a format that people can digest as a fairly quick 'interesting video'. What I'm getting at is that the more you can fill in the details for people, the more they understand the big picture. A good overview of history, along with a genuine familiarity with the sciences, ethics, and a good working knowledge of how people operate out in the wild helps us to make informed decisions as members of a society.

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks for stopping by and your comments, I really appreciate them. Yes, I'd definitely like to add more detail, the issue is the time it takes me to create these and put them out. There are so many topics that I'd like to cover in more detail but if I did, I wouldn't be able to get to so many others. I might do a different, podcast or vodcast type format where I can save time by having less visuals but add more audio content. I'll probably be experimenting with in it the next few months...stay tuned and thanks again for stopping by!

[@yahanahalbanokoyeobochadib9135]

Would be interesting to know if they were not the children of Chittem like their Roman conquerors...have you researched Chittem/Kittem?

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi, thanks for stopping by! No, I haven't researched that...yet!

[@yahanahalbanokoyeobochadib9135]

@@HistorywithCy Please do as these peoples/bloodline are very important and by intention they are mysterious and elusive! I restrict my research to that of the Word of the Most High...that is canon and most importantly the 204 books documented in 2 Esdras 14:44 that have been dismissed by the world (such as writings of Gad the Seer, the Gospel of Thomas, the Sheperd of Hermas). The Most High went on to say that the '70 last' books inverse 45 should be kept for the end days to paraphrase. We can precept Daniel 12:4 here as he was instructed that in the end times 'knowledge shall increase'... You mentioned in one of your videos that you trace your roots to Zoroastrianism. I know little of it but do believe it is based on real historical events. Was Nebuchhad-nezzar are Zoroaster too? Well if your believe the Hebrew texts as true...expecially canon...in Daniel 3:28-30 he submitted the powers (alas) of Zoroastrianism and made a decree that the entire world (at that time) speak nothing against the Most High Ala (power) of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. In Daniel 3:25 that 'angel' was Christ.....that was the ala of Alahayim that saved them and opened they eyes of Nebuchad-nezzar. So what I am getting at is that the Most High has created two types of people...those of light and those of darkness...there is nothing inbetween...semi-light is considered darkness. I pray that you will use your gifts to awaken the lost sheep (the true children of Jacob) and educate the world on the true creator of the universe who is the Ala of Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham. There is not much time left, this winter season there will be mansfestations that will conclusively prove that these mythelogical recorded events and powere/alas are actually real...you wait and see and you do not want to be in North America after December 6, 2019. blessings

[@kovalikandre10]

Hy .Michelangelo Naddeo .explain well and translate etruscan langue. And from where they come .and them wrything is like rovas iras whit whom match 80 % . Each take from priscos .but are other sources also . Simple WRITHING was TRANSLATED by .Michelangelo Naddeo .he have a lot of books about . Have a nice day

[@jl696]

The Etruscans lack of centralization allowed the Romans to use a "Divide and Conquer" strategy to defeat the Etruscans and the rest of the Italian peninsula.

[@hyperion3145]

It's interesting that when they were closest to uniting, they almost occupied Rome itself

[@aslampervazshaukat9405]

make a video about Hurrians

[@OTW18]

Great job as always! It would be awesome if you did a video on Ancient Edom of where Petra is today. Videos about Edom are scarce and biased.

[@desmondhoneycutt4434]

If you are a so called white man look at yourself.

[@IsraelYoungLion]

Desmond Honeycutt 😂😂😂

[@pintobeans994]

Good vid

[@HistorywithCy]

Thank you! Stay safe!

[@NathanG117]

Make a Video About The Minoans Civilization In Crete,By The Way Incredible Video✌

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi, thanks so much for the kind words, I really appreciate them. I actually have a video on the Minoans from about 9 months back. Click under "VIDEOS" and school down...you'll see it there. Thanks again for stopping by!

[@Fatherofheroesandheroines]

Two years on I just now realized Rasenna sounds a whole lot like Ravenna. I don't think that's a coincidence. If not for the Rasenna the Romans we know now never would have existed.

[@KaanSoloTraveler]

The Etruscans immigrated to the Florence region of Italy from two routes from the east. one migrated from the north to the PO plain and the other from the Aegean region by sea. Their DNA origins were determined and the Italians acknowledged them, and the Etruscans and Turks were said to have their first ancestors of the same lineage in northwest Asia.

[@debo2128]

It is said Etruscans came from western Anatolia during Antiquity but there were no Turks in Anatolia before 11 century Ad

[@VillemarMxO]

Wrong, they were indigenous to that area, sort of like the Basques.

[@timomastosalo]

I'm tipping my scale of the Etruscans having been a native Italic tribe, pre-Indo-European. This, because there language somewhat resembles the Basque language, Euskarra (Euskara?) as they call it. They haven't been found to be related, and they don't have to be - but if their word structures resemble each other, it would tell of the early Mediterranean cultures. Genetical studies show that the earliest migrants to the European Mediterranen, to Sicily, Sardinia and continental Italy, as well as Greece, came form Anatolia. North of the Alps is a different case, as well as the Pyrenees - at least somewhat. They did have some influence from the African side, as well as the earliest Western European people, pre-Indo-Europeans - who the Basques represent linguistically, and maybe genetically too. Maybe there were some others too - at least in Roman times there were many nations, including Celts who had not been there many centuries before the Romans, at least not a millennia. The Sardinians are still mostly of that stock originally from Anatolia (or even Caucasus), which would be understandable, it being an islnad farthest of the mainland of the big islands. New comers haven't reached half of the gentic input there. Now when they likely came from the Anatolia, it's no wonder their language could resemble the Luvian or Hittite languages somewhat. They could have come from a common source language, but long before the Indo-europeans came. So yes, they would have been indigenous, pre-Latin nation. AND they might have been somewhat related to the Luvian/Luwian languages. Maybe with thousands of years of separation - but still closer to them, than the Indo-Europeans.

[@noproblem2big337]

Great video and tend to agree with your view that the Etruscans were a local indigenous people.

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate the kind words. More to come soon, stay tuned!

[@Antony-18]

Exactly!

[@keithatherton2887]

I heard a study by geneticists had them arriving from Turkey

[@noproblem2big337]

@@keithatherton2887 .. sorry disagree, we all have some genetics that have an African origin but as homosapien migrated all over the globe they flourished in their surroundings and Italy sculptured the Etruscan civilization for millennia...originally they may have came from Anatolia but eventually had nothing in common with their place of origin, nowhere else in the world you would see Etruscan burial chambers, sculptures, architecture or paintings.

[@Dragan-t6w]

First World Empire: Nimrod-God Bacchus: 2025-2000 BCE. The creation of the First World Empire started from Nis, Serbia. Bocharti says that Nimrod’s army became known as Aryans. This is because Nimrod’s army consisted of professionals hunters; the God of hunting in Serbian mythology is called Arion: consequently, we get Arions / Aryans. (Samuelis Bocharti) Second World Empire: Serbo Makeridov: 1330-1300 BCE. The creation of the Second World Empire started from south Serbia. Alexander the Great tell us that there was a second world conquest which started from Naissus (Nis, Serbia) and which was led by the God Serbon: a great leader who was proclaimed a divinity-Quintus Rufus. Eusebii Pamphili claims that Serbon fought the Indians ca.1325 BCE and afterwards he built another Naissus at the Indus river, this was the city where Alexander the Great encountered Serbs according to Quintus Rufus and Pamphili (Ptolemaeus Eusebii). Troy: 2000-1184 BCE. Dardania to day Serbia. Third World Empire: Alexander the Great: 336-323 BCE. Son of King Philip the Great Karanovic and mother Olympia daughter of King Neotolomay Molosses from Serbo-Rasa tribe. (Ulrich Wilcken, Gustave Glotz) The creation of the Third World Empire started from south Serbia. Fourth World Empire: Roman Empire: Etruscan organized Roman Empire and eastern Roman Empire and 18 Emperors are from today Serbia Constantine the Great also born in Nis (Naissus). Following the 3rd Century Crisis (290s AD onward, the Empire was feeling less secure and thus there was a need for strong military leaders to take charge. Many Roman noblemen and statesmen were born in present-day Serbia, including 17 or 18 Roman Emperors (Vetranio wasn't universally recognized as an emperor, but was proclaimed a caesar).[2][3]

[@holdingpattern245]

Romans were originally called Latins, until an Etruscan royal house called Tarquin conquered them all from their capital city of Rome, with the help of Etruscan warrior elites who were the original patricians. So the king was kicked out by the Etruscan ruling class, not the Romans. That's why the last Etruscan speaker was a Roman emperor, what killed the Etruscans was ultimately the reforms caused by the plebeian revolts. And the Romans imposed Latin on most of the peoples they conquered, but not all, Greeks are a notable exception.

[@briana208]

Source titus livius? Great video:)

[@ezzovonachalm9815]

Etruria is the MOTHER of Europe ! Without the Etruscans who brought culture in to the peasant world of the italian peninsula there never whould have been a Roman Imperium.There would never have been the extention of the Greco- Roman culture across the known world.

[@yesid17]

lmao @7:45 goals

[@nole8923]

Why the heck don’t we call them what they called themselves which is the Rescena or however you spell it?

[@christopherzantiotis]

They didn’t adopt the Phoenician writing system, because it wasn’t an alphabet. The Greeks adapted the Phoenician writing system and made what we would call an alphabet today, with vowels, etc. The Etruscans got if from the Greeks, just like most things they got from the Greeks. I know you’re trying to downplay the Hellenic influence by broadening the influences to all the civilizations of the Mediterranean, but this is fallacious. Entertainment, religion, various cultural practices, art, architecture and many other aspects of civilization came from Hellas, not elsewhere!

[@Saimir-cu3qx]

La lingua etrusco si po tradure solo con la lingua Albanese e dovevo imparare perché lingua italiano e lingua greca non riescono spiegare loro lingue

[@christophercripps7639]

In hindsight, the Etruscans probably wished Lucius Tarquinius Priscus had burned those huts down ...

[@paulannable3734]

Another good video Cy. Do the Olmec! You know you want to....

[@HistorywithCy]

Oh for sure! Olmec, Toltec, Maya, Aztec...they're all on my list!

[@mischiefxmanaged5436]

Who else is here from school?

[@heritageresearchcenter8970]

BCE? There is only BC or AD.

[@HistorywithCy]

Watch the videos from the past year...they're all BC/AD. See also the Community tab for the discussion on BC vs. BCE... thanks!

[@florenceneri8240]

Pandan je suit aller en toscane 19 annes jais de la famille en toscane

[@knightwatchman]

Cy; I really enjoy your videos. They are informative and concise and your accompanying graphics are superb. But speaking of "superb" you need to learn a little Latin pronunciation when talking about Etruscans/Romans. You pronounced "Superbus" as super bus. The correct pronunciation is superb us.

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi, thanks for stopping by and the language tip. Yes, I agree, I need to work on both my Greek and Latin. This video is an older one and though 've tried my best to improve my pronunciation in all videos since, I know that it can be better. One day I want to make a much longer video on Etruscans and soon I will be covering a good amount of Roman history, so this will be important. Thank you for the correction, really appreciate it! More to come and feel free to correct me at any time. Stay safe!

[@knightwatchman]

@@HistorywithCy Hi there. Thanks for the quick reply. You stay safe too. Best way I am doing that is staying home and watching your videos. The ones addressing ancient pagan religions have taught me so much regarding the roots of today's organized religions. I am 67 years old and still learning thanks to you. The Latin "thing" stems from a VERY strict Latin teacher I had in junior high. The thought of her still scares me today. But (boy) did she teach us well.

[@HistorywithCy]

@@knightwatchman Thanks and glad you learned something new! Haha you all need to be strict with me when it comes to pronunciation... like with your Latin teacher, it'll keep me on my toes!

[@knightwatchman]

@@HistorywithCy Sure. No problem Cy. To be more precise on the Latin pronunciation of "us" its actually pronounced "oos". Ex. Superb~oos. But "us" is acceptable. And actually "superb" is pronounced "su~pairb". Ex. Su~pairb~oos.

[@rimacalid6557]

Poor Roseni shared the same hate of the Romans as the Canaani

[@blaircolquhoun7780]

The Etrucscan language is a language isolate, and like Linear A, still hasn't been translated.

[@florenceneri8240]

Ma grand mer sappelee julia

[@ticvas1258]

A Serb deciphered the Etruscan script. The names of Etruscan settlements, such as Polatera, Sena, Bada, Rusele, Aretium, Volsini, Volci (vuci - wolf), Kosa, Svana (Sovana), Bieda, Cera (Kera)... It is easy to transcribe them into Serbian without editing. Svetislav Bilbija deciphered the Etruscan script using the Serbian Cyrillic script. When he saw the Etruscan works in the museum, he could immediately understand what was written. The Romans and Latins inherited the complete culture, religion and skill of inherit from the Etruscans. The Etruscan art of divination based on the observation of animal livers was called Haruspicium(hara) from the word Hara or Žgara, which is the Serbian word for entrails, another name was DISCIPLINE ETRUSKA. the question arises why the Romans called the Rasenes (Rascia, part of Serbia, there is a town of Raska) Etruscans, because we know that the Rasenes called themselves Rasenes. the liver(JETRA Serbian )was also observed for daily needs, looking at the liver of small animals (chickens), I believe that the cosmos is reflected in the liver, then alive is the old Serbian diminutive (jETRUSKA) from which ETRUSKA comes later. jETRA - jETRUSKA - ETRUSKA Another proof is the footwear, thay wear opanka (opanke, Serbian footwear) on their footwear, sculptures and frescoes. Etruscan work was placed on the she-wolf being sucked by the twins later in the Renaissance, through it we approach the oldest cults of Rasena, where the wolf represents the first Etruscan. maybe now it's time to adopt: man is a wolf to man. the wolf is the progenitor of the tribe, so it originally had a completely different meaning, a kind of cult password.

[@timomastosalo]

They look so Roman, that without an explanation I guess many of us would think these are Roman pictures. Well the 2 men with laurels and flute looked more Greek. They were so much more powerful than the Romans. Then they took their city, build it strong, failed as Kings causing a revolt - and got their butts kicked by their former poor peasant neighbours. Sic transit gloria mundi. Though I don't get why Gloria always has to put her nose in these things - she's such a nuisance I guess.

[@timomastosalo]

@Tierneyy ! No - they were Etruscan. Different language. Albanian is Indo-European, Etruscan is not.

[@serkankinden5150]

Me, my mother, my father and most of my relatives are originated from Uşak near to Lidia's center. We are Turkmenstan originated Turks from central asia. Also Tyrhhenia sounded like Turkmenia to me. 😊 Actually Rasenna is same name as Ashina dynasty of Gokturks in central asia. Rasenna, Ashina comes from a mythic mother shewolf Asena leading old Turks to pass central asian mountains during ice age. Also, there are some names that is similar to turkic languages: Curtun (Kurt'un - city of wolve), Tarchna (Tarkan'a - city of leader), Roma (Rum'a - city of rums / romans) Additionally, they have spoken an agglutinative language like turkic, ugric, hunnic people do same. (Who have genetic similarities as R1a hunnic, ugric, turkic and R1b sumer/saka, turkmen, turkic)

[@fuferito]

Is this the _Metatron_ theme I am hearing?

[@HistorywithCy]

Oh, not sure what that is. It's from a site called Epidemic Sound.

[@fuferito]

@@HistorywithCy, Metatron is a fellow KZbinr.

[@frenchguitarguy1091]

God damnit Claudius, preserve your works better next time!?!

[@predragpetkovic2033]

See this Video...Porekla Srba - Srbi Rašani Etrurci..thank you

[@MackerelCat]

Super bus hahaha it’s superb us lololol sorry. I still loved the video tho, always been fascinated by Etruscans. If you google Arc Etrusco you can see a famous relic of their architecture that’s still stands in Perugia!

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks for stopping by and the correction in pronunciation...it's been my weak point at times. Yeah, the Etruscans are really interesting and are generally glossed over in most books...glad you found this video useful!

[@Muchyza2]

Oh CY!! The Etruscan alphabet adopted from the Phoenicians? Really!! No, no, no, the adoption of their alphabet is much closer to home.. Bar a few altered symbols, their "alphabet" is an obvious exponent of the Vinca scripts which predate Etruscan and Phoenician scripts over. 3000 years!! Yes of course it's older than Sumerian... I love your videos, particularly on the ancient Middle East, however in light of your lack of knowledge/research on ancient Balkan, or more correctly, Helmska, which encompasses Lepenski Vir, Starcevo and Vinca cultures and scripts, I'm really struggling to believe that everything I've enjoyed from your Middle Eastern YT publications holds any water... Or did you just rabbit these off some other YT goose!!

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi, thanks for stopping by. No, I've studied the ancient Near East for a good part of my life. The sources for those videos are also listed via a link in the description, trust me, you'll find the same info in there. Also, I've not produced videos on the Balkans so I don't know how you can judge my knowledge on that region. I have never used any other YT source so please, don't accuse me of such things...it's really insulting. If you have an issue with anything in the video, then I'm all open to debate and willing to look at any sources that you provide, but don't launch baseless accusations when I've spent a good deal of my life in and out of university studying many of these subjects. And about the alphabet...yes, if you study much of what's out there, it's a pretty common hypothesis, the most common one, that the Etruscan alphabet is derived from the Canaanite-Phoenician one, as is the Greek. This is nothing new, it's pretty standard. Now if for nationalistic reasons and agendas people want to play around with facts or skew them to fit their own agenda, well, I can't prevent that. I myself have no agenda, I just do the research and come up with as many facts as possible before putting these out. Thank you.

[@Muchyza2]

@@HistorywithCy Okay, the inference of a plagiaristic Goose statement is definitely unwarranted, particularly re the Middle East, it's a step too far.!! Like I said, I really enjoy these videos you make on this region and period. No equal in my opinion and the work you put into it is fabulous. I encourage you to keep it going!! A BIG BUT.... The constant promulgation that a band of brothers from Lydia formed the Etruscan language is absurd!! And without knowing one thing about Vinca culture statements such as the Etruscan script is Lydian, holds no water and cannot be made. I guess that's my point.. Look, I read and hear this type of thing all of the time, so I'm no stranger to it. Yes, the Greek alphabet was taken from the Phoenicians but that is still a relatively young culture compared to Vinca. The influence and impact of a culture's scriot, customs, agriculture, animal husbandry, metallurgy etc does not suddenly appear from disparate regions of the world and make sense to everyone in one region! It must have a centre!! For Etruria that centre is not Lydia!! As for the assumption of an ethnic slant re this topic. I live 16,000 km from these regions so I frankly don't give two hoots about their views. I just love TRUE history!!

[@HistorywithCy]

@@Muchyza2 Hi, thanks for the followup. I think you misinterpreted what was said. In the video I say, "One theory, more like ancient legend really, is that the Etruscans were the descendants of people who had migrated west from Anatolia, specifically the area called Lydia. The basis for this was due to their language, which is much different than anything else that was found on the Italian peninsula at the time. However today, most scholars consider the Etruscans to be the descendants of the local Italic indigenous population, who, between the years 1000-800 BCE formed their own distinct civilization." I am not making the argument that they came from Lydia just like I wouldn't really put a lot of credence into saying that Romans are the descendants of Trojans who escaped the sack of Troy...that's more legend. Maybe some refugees from the Bronze Age collapse ended up there, I don't know. The only statement made about alphabet in the video, not language (the two are different as many languages may use a variation of the Latin or Cyrillic alphabet but speak different languages), is "the Etruscans seem to have adopted a version of the Phoenician alphabet and from that, created their own." This makes sense from the view of archaeology. Phoenicians and Etruscans were both seafaring peoples who traded with each other. There were Phoenician colonies all over the Mediterranean, including Sicily and Sardinia, just to name a few close to Etruria. Given that and similarities between the two alphabets (plus other evidence), the general consensus among scholars in the field is that the two are related and probably Etruscan, as other languages were derived from Phoenician. Does that mean that there aren't other theories out there? No, and you might have another one, but the consensus theory is what I've stated in the video, that's all. You may write or create a video about any other theories and that'd be great and I'm sure we'd all benefit from additional points of view. In this field there are many theories and hypotheses, some with more evidence than others. Thanks again for stopping by, I really do appreciate it and I hope that you continue to enjoy these videos. There will always be disagreements, and that's good...keeps us all sharp and learning more. Thanks again, stay safe!

[@aleksaleks2274]

@@Muchyza2 that is really interesting view. Is there any sources that I could look into? Thanks

[@LuisAldamiz]

Meh-diocre. You could have done a much better video: you begin saying you will not talk of Rome and end up talking of Rome about half the video. Instead you did not even mention Lars Porsenna and the conquest of Campania (and Latium), nor the colonization of Corsica and the Po Valley. Anyhow the debate on whether Etruscans originated in Asia Minor ("Lydia" means Asia Minor, in the somewhat imprecise terms used by the ancients) still rages: we know now that there was a major demographic change in all Italy (except Sardinia) in the late Bronze Age and Early Iron, which correlates with the expansion of Inodueropeans (Italics and Celts) but also of other groups that MUST have come from the Eastern Mediterranean, namely the Tyrsenoi (Etruscans) = Teresh and the almost certainly Semitic Shekelesh (Sicels and Siculi). Also there was historically an Etruscan-speaking people near where Troy once stood: the Lemnians of the island of Lemnos. It is also very strange that Rome had that Aeneas foundation myth, after all, being Western Indoeuropean they originated in Central Europe, not the Aegean; my take is that they adopted it from the Etrsucans in the monarchy period.

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi, thanks for stopping by. As the title states, it's just an introduction. I wish I had time to talk about all of the peoples in history that I have an interest in much greater detail, but sadly that's not the case. Hope that you found something in it useful though...thanks!

[@shqipetarijanshqiptari411]

Pelasgian Tribes🌟🐣🌙Pelasgian(Troyans*Ilion) Hethiter Etruskian,Illyrian,Dardanian,Mykens (Ancient Makedonian)Thrakian,Darker Minonians Lyder (Dorians^not hellens*IONER,Achaier)Elymer.Sikaler,Sikaner,Akrokomer,Agrianer,Besser,Phryger,Byrhini,Botiaer,Veneter,Ismari,Karer,Laiaer.Pierer,Seleter...

[@Ai-he1dp]

Etruscan rock & roller...ok..

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it!

[@TooJewelious]

You forgot to mention that they were black lol

[@IrishCinnsealach]

No they weren't. Culture vulture

[@jalicno7342]

Servius Tulius 🇷🇸 ...Rasen...Rasani...raseljeni...Rum-Ruma

[@KnightRider872]

Russians came from Etruscans or Scythians?

[@vassilopoula]

From neither of them. Rus was their mother clan, a slavic tribe

[@drkrobinson]

no mention that they were black

[@zache.1226]

They had nothing to do with black people “A mtDNA study in 2004 stated that the Etruscans had no significant heterogeneity, and that all mitochondrial lineages observed among the Etruscan samples appear typically European, but only a few haplotypes were shared with modern populations. Allele sharing between the Etruscans and modern populations is highest among Germans (seven haplotypes in common), the Cornish from South West England (five haplotypes in common), the Turks (four haplotypes in common), and the Tuscans (two haplotypes in common).[58] A couple of mitochondrial DNA studies, published in 2013 in the journals PLOS One and American Journal of Physical Anthropology, based on Etruscan samples from Tuscany and Latium, concluded that the Etruscans were an indigenous population, showing that Etruscans' mtDNA appear to fall very close to a Neolithic population from Central Europe (Germany, Austria, Hungary) and to other Tuscan populations, strongly suggesting that the Etruscan civilization developed locally from the Villanovan culture, as already supported by archaeological evidence and anthropological research,[10][59] and that genetic links between Tuscany and western Anatolia date back to at least 5,000 years ago during the Neolithic and the "most likely separation time between Tuscany and Western Anatolia falls around 7,600 years ago", at the time of the migrations of Early European Farmers (EEF) from Anatolia to Europe in the early Neolithic. The ancient Etruscan samples had mitochondrial DNA haplogroups (mtDNA) JT (subclades of J and T) and U5, with a minority of mtDNA H1b.[60][61] In the collective volume Etruscology published in 2017, British archeologist Phil Perkins provides an analysis of the state of DNA studies and writes that "none of the DNA studies to date conclusively prove that Etruscans were an intrusive population in Italy that originated in the Eastern Mediterranean or Anatolia" and "there are indications that the evidence of DNA can support the theory that Etruscan people are autochthonous in central Italy".[62][63] A 2019 genetic study published in the journal Science analyzed the remains of eleven Iron Age individuals from the areas around Rome, of which four were Etruscan individuals, one buried in Veio Grotta Gramiccia from the Villanovan era (900-800 BC) and three buried in La Mattonara Necropolis near Civitavecchia from the Orientalizing period (700-600 BC). The study concluded that Etruscans (900-600 BC) and the Latins (900-500 BC) from Latium vetus were genetically similar,[64] with genetic differences between the examined Etruscans and Latins found to be insignificant.[65] The Etruscan individuals and contemporary Latins were distinguished from preceding populations of Italy by the presence of ca. 30-40% steppe ancestry.[66] Their DNA was a mixture of two-thirds Copper Age ancestry (EEF + WHG; Etruscans ~66-72%, Latins ~62-75%) and one-third Steppe-related ancestry (Etruscans ~27-33%, Latins ~24-37%).[64] The only sample of Y-DNA extracted belonged to haplogroup J-M12 (J2b-L283), found in an individual dated 700-600 BC, and carried exactly the M314 derived allele also found in a Middle Bronze Age individual from Croatia (1631-1531 calBCE). While the four samples of mtDNA extracted belonged to haplogroups U5a1, H, T2b32, K1a4.[67] Therefore, Etruscans had also Steppe-related ancestry despite speaking a non-Indo-European language. In his book, A Short History of Humanity, published in the English world in 2021, German geneticist Johannes Krause, co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Jena, concludes that all the evidence tells us that the Etruscan language arrived in Europe with the Neolithic revolution.[68]”

[@drkrobinson]

your research strongly suggest mostly all other research that the current romans were the descendants of black ppl just like others in that region in central europe which was populated by indigenous black people

[@wankawanka3053]

@@drkrobinson 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@IrishCinnsealach]

Because they weren't

[@drkrobinson]

@@IrishCinnsealach you need to do your homework

[@john9982]

Love your videos, just replace your idea of democracy with Republic. There, Rome was a representative republic not a democracy.

[@verdi2310]

Rásna. Ruma.

[@DipakBose-bq1vv]

Russians claim that Etruscans are slavic.

[@stag6161]

The league of 12 people's who oversaw religious matters.. Is this another Zodiac thing?

[@kkupsky6321]

Boogie

[@saumensingh9482]

Etruscan nobles were Aryas, they originated in Anatolia where Mittani-Hatti-Hari Arya descendants ruled. Chariot is invention of Aryas. Etruscans' funerary rite used to be cremation, a Vedic rite. Sanskrit Vatika was their deity. Aryas R1a1aY/R1a1Y comprise non-IE speaking Jews, Arabs, Turk, Mongol Tibetan Chinese, SE Asian too. Nation's rulers don't share common origin with commoners. 👉All European, Mediterranean, central Asian, steppe nations are founded by race of Bharath (Vedic/Arya). Kings, warriors of Europe, central Asia, great steppe are R1a1aY/R1a1Y {Vedic warrior caste (Shatriyas)}, this marker didn't exist in steppe to Europe before 1k BCs. They've descended from CimmeArya, Saka, Sauromata, Alani, Roxolani, TochaArya, Kushan, Wushun, Xiangno, Khotan Aryas who conquered great steppe then Europe, China in the 1k BCs from India-Iran region when Vedics from India already conquered upto Anatolia (Mittani-Hatti-Hari) in 2k BCs. Greco-Roman descended from M-H-H Aryas, only Aryas can bring IE language, chariot, Mitra, the thunder/sky God, astronomy, astrology, funerary cremation in Greece & Italy. Aryas in west have turned blonde/white breeding with white women (Celts R1bY, Veneds R1aY) like brown Jews have turned blonde. Imagine Europe's Monarchies started coming 1300 years later than the Saka monarchy of 700 BC., literature after 7th c CE. Greece, Italy Monarchies started 1000 years later than M-H-H. Proven conquest of west by Aryas.👇 👉In 2k BCs Mittani-Hatti-Hari conquered upto Anatolia. 👉In 800 BCs CimmeArya, Saka conquered Balkan, Ukraine, Russia. 👉In 500 BCs Parsha conquered Greece, Balkan. 👉In 400 BCs Sauromata, Alani conquered beyond Ukraine all the way to British Irish Isles, remember RgVedic Goddess Danu. 👉 In 400 CEs one Alani branch conquered Spain raiding Greece, Italy. 👉In 400 CEs Hun conquered half of Europe descending from Tocha-Arya, Kushan." ++++++++ 👉Since 800 BCs whites (Celts, Veneds) & Central Asian trib@ls are en$laved by Aryas (CimmeArya, Saka, Sauromata, Alani, Roxolani, TochaArya, Kushan, Wushun, Xiangno, Khotan). 👉Whites are next en$laved by Roman descending from Mittani-Hatti-Hari Aryas. 👉Next en$laved by Hun descending from Tocha-Arya, Kushan Aryas of Tarim basin. 👉Next en$laved by moors of north Africa for 700 years, moor leaders are Iranian Aryas. 👉Again en$laved by Turk, Mongol, l0rds of Turk, Mongol tribals are Tocha-Arya, Kushan, Wushun. ++++++++ Whites (CeltR1bY of Yamnaya, Vened or old SlavicR1aY of Sintashta) are neither IE/Aryas nor warrior race, no evidence of their native language. Let alone riding chariot didnt even ride horse. Roman labelled them subhum@n. IBN Fadlan described yellow haired are f!lthiest of God's creation. Till 10th c CE r@ping, hum@n s@crifice used to be their custom. Stark contrast in civilization of people in a continent confirms different origin. Whites aren't martial race but they @nnihilate anyone weaker than them, they've @nnihilated native Europeans. Roman, Saka, Sauromata, Alani, Hun Aryas could do the same with whites but didn't. In last 1k years Aryas of west assimilating with whites commited gen0cides of American, African, Asian, Australian. Hiroshima nuking, WW1/2. British rulers who are Arya R1a1aY/R1a1Y l00ted $45 trillion alone from India & feeding white p@rasites leaving 10 mill. Indians starved to death. Vedic civilization is destroyed by her own long lost children. ++++++++ Lords of Turk, Mongol, Avar, Khazar trb@ls descended from Tocha-Arya, Kushan, Wushun Aryas. Xiangno, Wushun, Kushan conquered China, Tibet. Shatriyas of eastern India conquered SE Asia. R1a1aY/R1a1Y can easily be found among Turk, Mongol, Chinese, Tibetan, SE Asian, Jews. A nation's kings don't share common race with $laves, commoners. Shatriya Arya, Ezyptian, Mesopotamian are only martial races. ++++++++ West is never 1 race. GR labelled northerners subhum@n. Stark difference in civiliation confirms different races. There are Aryas, Celts, Veneds, Phonecian-Etruscan from middle East, negroids from sub Sahara, some central Asian, perhaps some native Euros, Gypsies, Mongoloids too. ++++++++ Shatriyas are founder of Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism. Shatriya Buddha, Mahavira, Ashoka TG, Kurus TG are the greats & benevolent no race on earth could give birth including great Mesopotamian, Ezyptian. Abrahamic religions are existing only because Kurus TG saved Judaism from extinction, he's the only non-Jews regarded "messiah" in Judaic texts. Literature of all civiliations combined can't reach half of Vedics. RgVeda is the oldest IE literature. 40% Earth's population speak Arya languages. Aryas who surpass even great Mesopotamian, Ezyptian can't originate from civilizationless steppe. Oldest chariot found in "Sinauli" India. None ever used Chariot in Steppe. +++++++ Will Durant, American historian. "India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of Europe's languages: she was the mother of our philosophy; mother, through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the Buddha, of the ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is in many ways the mother of us all." William James, American Author "From the Vedas, we learn a practical art of surgery, medicine, music, house building under which mechanized art is included. They are encyclopedia of every aspect of life, culture, religion, science, ethics, law, cosmology and meteorology."

[@anoncrazynonevilgooddecent7631]

Eh-truscans not Ee-truscans

[@levolevo1059]

Turkic ,,,,,they are,,

[@Saimir-cu3qx]

Inparate Albanese e vedrete che andate avanti

[@elphrog1114]

Social studies lol

[@nurettinsarul]

Etruscans have emigrated to Italy from the kingdom of Lydia in Western Turkey. The people of Lydia were not Grek. Their roots depand on Kut/Subar/Turukku people in Eastern Turkey and Western Iran. They were prototurks. According to the Urmu Theory, Turks have spread all over the world from the area around the lake Urmu in the middle east. Many of them have gone to sybiria and central asia, some of them have been living in the Iran and Turkey, and some of them have gone to the west. Etruscans come from the prototurks who have prefered to go to the west. The culture of kurgan (timulus) refer to only ancient Turks all over the world as in the Etruscans. Their alphabet is very simmilar to Göktürk alphabets of Turks. Their rasenna is corresponding to Turks' Asena which is a female wolf. Wolf is still a symbol of nationalist Turks in Turkey at present. Also, it is sure that etruscans' language is not classified in indo-european language family as Turkish language. One more point, the words "etrusk" and "turk" are fonetically simmilar to eachother. Finally, Etruscans and Turks most probably have same roots.

[@KaanSoloTraveler]

True friend i agree

[@wankawanka3053]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@vassilopoula]

Turks came to Anatolia in the 11th century AD, in the Byzantine era. Wake up

[@srbendatribali7332]

Etruscan are the real Turks .Asien Turks dont exist .The Etruscans live in West Anadolia. The Selcuks Come from Asia and similar with the Etruscans Turks. ..The onather name for the Etruscans is RASSEN. .TURANOI. ..TURCIAN. ..TURANESI.

[@wankawanka3053]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@orianjaku5630]

Etruscans are today Albanians !!! Albanian language it is the only language in the world who can translate every word of Etruscan language !!!!

[@wankawanka3053]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mariosimoni2841]

bce ? you're weird.

[@HistorywithCy]

Yeah, that's just the academic term they use in a lot of the more recent papers and books. It means the same as BC. Thanks for stopping by channel, more to come soon!

[@hyperion3145]

@atheodora lastname Actually, most scholars agree that a Jesus of Nazareth existed and the main consensus on his birth is usually around 4 BC. There are other non Christian documents that confirm his existence. Both Josephus and Tacitus make reference to him. There are also several Jewish texts in the Talmud and Mishnah that acknowledge his existence while denouncing him. He may have existed, just not in the Christian mindset.

[@fi4638]

Etruscans=ProtoTurk's west sub branch.Their language is same with Turkish (mathematical) . Avaz, Ayaz,Ata,At,Tarkan still used by Turkish in today. Wolf is the main character in Turks as in Etruscans. Just notice; Turks went to the central asia and north west Asia from Anatolia. Etruscans are not Latin or Greek.

[@wankawanka3053]

No definitely not

[@IrishCinnsealach]

The Etruscan DNA was a mixture of two-thirds Copper Age ancestry (EEF + WHG; Etruscans ~66-72%, Latins ~62-75%) and one-third Steppe-related ancestry (Etruscans ~27-33%, Latins ~24-37%) (with the EEF component mainly deriving from Neolithic-era migrants to Europe from Anatolia and the WHG being local Western European hunter- .. DNA disagrees with you

[@fi4638]

@@IrishCinnsealach No, Etruscans originaly from Anatolia as Turks. Their languages are the same (Agglutinative language) There is no any Indo-European agglutimative languages more then Etruscan and Turkish) If you say Fin,,Bulgar etc. They are also Turkic people as you know. You need more examples to study. Romus and Romulus brothers were Turkic. Turks went to do North and east from Anatolia to. Probably you new on this subhect. Study more.

[@IrishCinnsealach]

@@fi4638 and the Finns are not Turkish either they originate between the Volga, Oka and Kama rivers in what is now Russia. The genetic basis of future Finns also emerged in this area. Haplogroup U5 is estimated to be the oldest major mtDNA haplogroup in Europe and is found in the whole of Europe at a low frequency, but seems to be found in significantly higher levels among Finns, Estonians and the Sami people. With regard to the Y-chromosome, the most common haplogroups of the Finns are N1c (59%), I1a (28%), R1a (5%) and R1b (3.5%).[63] N1c, which is found mainly in a few countries in Europe (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland and Russia), is a subgroup of the haplogroup N distributed across northern Eurasia and suggested to have entered Europe from Asia. N1c doesn't even get a mention in the genetics of Turk's and the second highest L1A is found in just 5 percent of the Turkish people so you are well off and I have no idea where you get your information from

[@vassilopoula]

​@@fi4638 nah they didn't do kebab

[@Paraglidecrete]

The Marsiliana Abecedarium Tablet (700 BCE) (ancient etrusk script) ΨΦΧΥΤΣΡϘ * ΜΠΟΞΝΛΚΙΘΗΖF * ΕΔΓΒΑ is the same * Greek alphabet used today, * The stele of Lemnos (Archaeological Museum of Athens) (older protoetrusk writing) y Solomon Reinach = the Etruscans are Aegeans. help Scotty!