ANACS Unboxing - Coin Grading Results

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Rocky’s Ramblings

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@sayminnesota Ай бұрын

1880-S PL...they did you a kindness...it's cleaned. They drop the grade in exchange for calling it cleaned.

@remyferrari8501 Ай бұрын

I agree.

@McSilverWolff Ай бұрын

I agree. Way to many micro scratches on the coin

@peterbartoldus6529 Ай бұрын

The Check has been clean/altered to make it look mark free.

@staleydu1 Ай бұрын

I think you should send the 80-s into PCGS so you can find out what a details grade is. That's not a nice 80-s.

@sonnygunz9207 Ай бұрын

That ms62pl 1880-S is a “details cleaned” coin 100%. They net graded it. PCGS probably won’t do the same. I have an 1880-S in the same boat. It has light hairlines on a pl obverse with frosty device. It would be an easy 65 and probably 65 star at ngc. I use it as a edc coin.

@jeffcollins92 Ай бұрын

The 1880-s, is a 62 all day the fields are well marked as you can see when you rotate the coin. All PL and DMPL coins show every mark.

@phillipbyrnes2885 Ай бұрын

Totally agree

@McSilverWolff Ай бұрын

That 80 s is nice but 100 percent a details coin. Micro scratches all over the fields and devices.

@ggelsrinc-1 2 күн бұрын

Insane!

@remyferrari8501 Ай бұрын

No FBL on coins less than MS. Same for FS and FB.

@TheWinstonDouble 19 күн бұрын

PCGS will do them down to AU-58 and possibly even lower than that. But definitely not under AU. I have seen AU-58s get them though. I know that for sure.

@nicolasrossi5978 Ай бұрын

On the '85 S/S even being extremely generous an XF45 is the most you could have possibly ever hoped for (AU would not even be on the table!), and they took it down to XF40 for the obvious cleaning, sorry but that is the best outcome you could reasonably expect. On the 1880-s I would say you were lucky you did not get a 'cleaned' designation as well as the 'MS62 all those parallel cleaning marks in the left field? c'mon, and liberty has the three marks right by her mouth, clean cheek true, but those marks still stand out, and it's definitely nowhere near DMPL, that takes a 'black and white' coin with regard to CONTRAST between devices and fields, that is the detemrining factor! It's absolutely not present on this coin, and the fields are super scuffy due to it's having been cleaned.You mean to say you see that strength of contrast on this coin? You are deluding yourself. While I sympathise with your disappointment. I would say you were not realistic in your expectations to begin with (when coins were initially assessed and sent in by you) and now you are trying to rationalize away the clear condition detractors that are probably readily apparent to most collectors watching this video.

@4funrc11 Ай бұрын

👍 Thank you! I believe you are correct that some things have changed. For the better or for the worse is the question. Yes, I see questionable grades, grades being too low, and the turnaround time being so long is new to me. Anyways, please keep 'em coming!

@tvoprosucks Ай бұрын

THAT 1880S IS A 62, HAS A LOT OF CHATTER IN THE FIELDS

@noobismatic Ай бұрын

Looks like you're doing really well picking out nice cheeks, but you might be undervaluing field chatter. The 80-S seemed, on video at least, to have a fair amount of very small field marks. Plus, like you said, those are always graded tight. All that being said, I still think if you graded it ten times it would come back better than a 62 seventy five of the time. That's a bummer. I'd be interested in seeing the PCGS result. On the Franklin, I think they'll only give FBL attribution on MS coins.

@mikemcgrath7498 Ай бұрын

I know nothing about stabbed coins, if u don't like the grade and think it should be a higher grade can u break it and re send it in? I understand it cost money to grade but if ur coin got the 1 more higher grade that would make up for the cost

@psilocybemusashi Ай бұрын

9:30 i strongly disagree with your assessment here. the grading company got it right. you should put that 62 under a microscope if you can't see all the pock marks on that coin.

@bulacano3014 Ай бұрын

That 1880-S, clean cheek but what about that hit next to her mouth? It's either a 62 or 63--early S mints get graded harshly. On the 1898, you didn't show the reverse at all. Can't say I agree with the MS 60 details though--it's a 65 without the scratch.

@rockysramblings Ай бұрын

Sorry I focus on the obverse too much. Was kinda rushing the video due to my circumstances.

@nickfrost9771 Ай бұрын

@@rockysramblings Anyone else notice since collectors universe purchased PCGS back in 2020, the company went to 💩? Traveling with shows, speaking to collectors, sellers, etc. Immediately after the takeover, they got rid of the o.g. graders even the guy who took the truview images. After researching, it seems as those with no regulating parties against them, they purchased the company to usher in their own people. Pedro, Cesar, Carlos, etc. They have in mind to completely manipulate and monopolize the business in favor of their selected few. They are directly responcible for hurting many people. This will change. I am in contact with a group of lawyers who are discecting their business practices. Simply, I recommend NGC, because PCGS may not have a future.

@RobertLee-wi5kc Ай бұрын

You know I view ANA on a much lower scale than you do. All 80S and 81S look that nice and pcgs will never give you PL on that. You thought it might be cleaned and I think you are right. Are you looking at these coins with a 20 power mag? You have a lot of chatter in the field and with pl ish they will show each one. Love the video.

@coinstruck6079 Ай бұрын

That 1880 MS62PL is mental. The only thing I can think of is that they thought it may have been cleaned and gave it a net grade. But still!!

@americanfortruth Ай бұрын

You have no MS65's. 65 will basically be called gem and have no dings, scratches or any other marks. I got an order back from ANACS and I was not pleased, they seem to go down 1 point a few came back ok (less than half)

@rockysramblings Ай бұрын

This isn’t quite accurate. I’ve properly guessed several 65’s. The check has to be nearly flawless and the fields can have chatter. To be a 66 the cheek must be flawless and the fields need to be nearly clean and a good strike.

@RobertLee-wi5kc Ай бұрын

Correct me if I am wrong but I don't believe they will ever give you a full bell designation if it is not ms 60 or better. same with full bands or split bands or full steps.

@rockysramblings Ай бұрын

I was not aware of this at the time

@smar5812 Ай бұрын

You have to learn to recognize when your coins are cleaned. I’ve been collecting since 70’s and I’d say the 1880S has altered surface where the cheeks has been smoothed based on little view I see and wear in the hair as well as cleaned in the fields… 1880 S should be a strong strike unlike O mint… just seeing what you want to see… and ANACs is super generous

@keymbord Ай бұрын

MS60 Details means any details coin with uncirculated detail. ANACS only does specific details grades up to AU58 before throwing everything into the same group

@TheWinstonDouble 19 күн бұрын

I've seen 63 details. I think it depends on the issue. Like a wheelmark on the reverse... there's no reason to drop a nice coin all the way to 60 for that.

@thewesties8725 Ай бұрын

If that 1880 isn't an MS 65, then I don't know what is Anacs!!!

@lukehatfield8919 Ай бұрын

Your ignoring the fields they impact your grade too

@leechild4655 Ай бұрын

Don`t worry about the grade you get if its not quite favorable. Its good holdered and safe. If you go to sell you may get the better grade from a buyer that sees it too. Otherwise they want you to keep submitting a coin to upgrade. They want those submission fees.

@ltcol2005 Ай бұрын

it's not only about the face. the fields of some of these coins have enough marks to justify the grades. if some of these senet to pcgs or ngc would be detail cleaned coins.

@rockysramblings Ай бұрын

I was concerned about the 80 S being deemed as cleaned. I do worry if I send to PCGS they’ll label it as cleaned. However even with fields with chatter, a face that clean should be a 64. The majority of the grade comes from the face and strike

@MM-cp4mi Ай бұрын

I like these vids

@fatlostmedia1376 Ай бұрын

dude that 1896 although it had some toning it wasnt really that nice. the luster was dulled, the toning color spectrum was just okay. MS 62 on th 1896 was honestly, lucky you even got that grade on it.

@randallkress6393 Ай бұрын

Correct, they are slow and also unapologetic, this occurred also with me. THE HIGH COST of LOW COSAT grading company.

@zzyzxRDFwy15 Ай бұрын

I read that ANACS has "toughen" their grading standards, I suppose, to be viewed as tough grading company, thus, a better grading service. The problem is that lower grades doesn't make them better. Only more accurate grading would make them better. As far as I'm concerned, the value of big five grading companies is authentication. The rest of it is just an opinion driven in a big part to gain a better industry standing.

@frankchase9297 Ай бұрын

I would send the coin back to be regraded or submit it elsewhere. I really enjoy your videos. Best Regards!

@cgcoins3639 Ай бұрын

I hope you regrade them!!!

@champstar9669 Ай бұрын

This will help you in life, not just with coins. If 1 person says you are wrong...'eff them. But when you over grade a coin 90% of the time, and think every coin is DMPL/cameo, then the issue is *YOU*. Eat some humble pie. Admit you need to learn more. Stop blaming PCGS. 90% means the issue is within. I'm the same way. Hard thing to accept. Gotta pick up on the patterns and take it upon yourself to change. Or gripe 24/7. But it's not appealing from a viewing standpoint. I stopped at 6:05 and couldn't handle any more.

@rockysramblings Ай бұрын

Watch my other recent videos. I have gotten pretty good at my grading. This was ANACS not PCGS

@jonnytrux3697 Ай бұрын

@ the least Anzac’s does give some kind of grade unlike PCGS ,

@nickfrost9771 Ай бұрын

Anyone else notice since collectors universe purchased PCGS back in 2020, the company went to 💩? Traveling with shows, speaking to collectors, sellers, etc. Immediately after the takeover, they got rid of the o.g. graders even the guy who took the truview images. After researching, it seems as those with no regulating parties against them, they purchased the company to usher in their own people. Pedro, Cesar, Carlos, etc. They have in mind to completely manipulate and monopolize the business in favor of their selected few. They are directly responcible for hurting many people. This will change. I am in contact with a group of lawyers who are discecting their business practices. Simply, I recommend NGC, because PCGS may not have a future.

@Numizzmaticaddict Ай бұрын

Think you have to pay for details full grades extra

@rockysramblings Ай бұрын

I never had to before

@MrSkunkwork Ай бұрын

Maybe they accidentally put both coins in the wrong holder(?)

@rockysramblings Ай бұрын

Haha well PCGS labeled a quarter a nickel on me so I guess anything is possible

@mark6360 Ай бұрын

Send the 1880-S PL to PCGS! Break it out of the holder first, though

@barnesmultimedia2725 Ай бұрын

If it shatters your delusions about your coins, stop submitting them to professional grading companies.

@rockysramblings Ай бұрын

You seem like a particularly joyful individual

@weststephan5253 Ай бұрын

Your coins look beautiful to me!

@fatlostmedia1376 Ай бұрын

the 1880 s was not a 65 dmpl, your kinda way overgrading on that. theres SOOO many 1880s they all look nice, to get a DMPL dude you need to like reconsider the grading on those. it was not that nice. i mean i dont wanna be mean, but just reconsider on that. coin

@rockysramblings Ай бұрын

I’m okay with not getting the Dmpl. It was the grade that I disagree with

@typeviic1 Ай бұрын

with my experience, ANACS does not over grade.

@curiousrelic Ай бұрын

I think you were lucky to get the grades you got. We all think our coins are better than they really are. Reality check.

@rockysramblings Ай бұрын

Fair enough. But my last few submission I guessed my grades pretty close if not under grade. I’ve gotten pretty good with Morgans

@metalmike364 16 күн бұрын

Now send it to CAC Green or gold bean

@rockysramblings 16 күн бұрын

I don’t think they will grade ANACS coins

@ericmack001 Ай бұрын

You were right. The face was flawless!

@curiousrelic Ай бұрын

Can’t watch anymore. We all think we are expert graders.

@rockysramblings Ай бұрын

No I don’t but with Morgans I’ve gotten pretty good.

@curiousrelic Ай бұрын

@@rockysramblings I understand. I just want to apologize if I sounded sarcastic or demeaning. Probably should have kept my comments to myself. I need to work on that.

@psilocybemusashi Ай бұрын

the whole coin grading racket. i don't grade my coins. the only people that are going to buy a truly unique and rare coin don't need a crummy grading company to tell them what it is.