Complete Vintage Hi-Fi System around 1000$-€ (Kit #1)

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ANA[DIA]LOG

ANA[DIA]LOG

Күн бұрын

In this first video of three, we are going to assemble a complete vintage hi-fi system with a low budget, around 1000$-€: turntable, cartridge, amplifier, speakers all vintage!
INDEX:
- INTRO: 0:00
- WHY GO VINTAGE?: 1:42
- TURNTABLES: 3:53
Dual 1019, 1219, 1229: 200/250€ (easy to find) idler (starting 1964)
Lenco (Goldring-cart) L75: 200/250$ idler (1967)
- CARTS: 6:48
Shure V15 I - II - III (JICO SAS upgrade +200$): 50-150$
Pickering XV-15/625: 100-150$
Stanton 681EEE, 881s, 500: 100-150$
- AMPLIFIERS (integrated): 11:04
NAD 3020, 3120: 200-250€ (1978)
Yamaha A320 (rare): 200-250$ (1985)
Rotel RA-820: 100-150$ (1987)
Pioneer A400: 200-250$ (1991)
- SPEAKERS: 14:13
KLH Model 6: 300/400$ (1958)
Acoustic Research AR3a: 500/600$ varies a lot (1969)
Epos es11: 400$ (1991)
Paradigm Reference Studio 20 (v2-v4): 500/600$ (starting in 1998)
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Errata Corrige: In the video I showed a pair of AR-4 speakers instead of the AR3a. Sorry! The recommendation for the AR3a is still valid! Same for the Epos. The ones showed are the Epos 14, instead of the 11 :-)

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@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Errata Corrige: In the video I showed a pair of AR-4 speakers instead of the AR3a. Sorry! The recommendation for the AR3a is still valid! Same for the Epos. The ones showed are the Epos 14, instead of the 11 :-)
@jhuc2869
@jhuc2869 3 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend the budget AR 4x over the 3a with the amplifiers mentionned. In my experience the 3a needs loads of current, only really opens up with 100wpc plus and the tweeters and woofer surrounds are generally knackered. The 4x with it's alnico woofer actually sounds nicer than the 3a (but with much lower resolution) and has cloth surround woofers and reliable cone tweeter. It puts many modern speakers to shame with its full fat sound with proper low bass. The efficiency is lowish by the standards of the day when it was made, but not too bad in these days of tiny 5" woofer boxes. It works fantastically well with a modern class d amplifier (sorry vintage fans!).
@patrick1174
@patrick1174 3 жыл бұрын
Very nicce video. You're right, vintage hi-fi has a crazy charm and surprising good sound. I'm full Pioneer sources from 1974/75 and I'm always happy.
@Badassvidsz
@Badassvidsz 3 жыл бұрын
Pioneer is a Legendary brand actually Top Brand :-)
@philipketchum1407
@philipketchum1407 3 жыл бұрын
My 4th stereo system in my house is vintage. I’m an electronics tech so it’s my hobby to repair and rebuild them. I spend more time listening to my vintage than any of my modern and high end systems.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! That is a valuable statement there. If out of 4ntou go to the vintage one it must mean something!
@RumblestripDotNet
@RumblestripDotNet 3 жыл бұрын
I did this a few years ago. I have the Dual 1019, a Sherwood S7200 and Dynaco A25's. It was good, but just good enough to make you want more.
@jimmyjoejeeter2366
@jimmyjoejeeter2366 3 жыл бұрын
Don't get a Reel to Reel, you will be hook, I have 2 and was going to buy another one, but I just don't have the room!
@johnnytoobad7785
@johnnytoobad7785 3 жыл бұрын
My first turntable was a Dual-1219 with a Pickering cart. It was considered good-value back then. I also had a Stanton 681EE and EEE on that table. In 1973 I "upgraded" to a Thornes with an SME 3009 arm. I'm still using that combination today...(after much re-build & re-furb work) Hopefully it will make it to it's 50th anniversary in 2023. My original cart was Shure V15 type III. I eventually upgraded to a Shure V-15 type V. Good replacement styli for that cart is NOT cheap today. (It used to be around $80) All the Shure hardware is now considered to be be "working rare vintage" since no new Shure carts are being made. I also owned a pair KLH-5's that I sold when I was in college. Nice hear folks (younger than me) talking about the "sound" of this equipment.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! Thanks for sharing that!
@simonmarsden66
@simonmarsden66 3 жыл бұрын
I added a Jico SAS to my V15 III and was happy with the results
@mymixture965
@mymixture965 3 жыл бұрын
I went used, maybe not vintage. Thrones 160, Denon PMA 2000r, Elac floor stands, I was below 1000,-- and loved it. I made some upgrades since (Sonus Faber Venere S), next is a clear audio performance. But to start vintage was the optimum for me, I learned a lot and the old stuff always goes to my wife for her room so she is happy too :-)
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Nice sustainable system!
@cpta03
@cpta03 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video. You mentioned some real gems. I’ve had my vintage system since the mid-1970’s - Kenwood KA-3500 integrated amplifier, Sansui SR-2050 turntable, Shure M91ED cartridge, and Dynaco A25 speakers. For fun, I checked eBay and my system can be replaced for under $1,000.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for sharing that!
@daviddarley4749
@daviddarley4749 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I got into hifi in the 80s when at music college in London. I managed to find a Lenco GL75 in a dusty corner bought for £1 !!!! Did not know anything about it, but added a Denon cartridge, and my journey began
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! It's amazing how one's journey begins...with just a tiny taste...of magic!
@jerryking7502
@jerryking7502 3 жыл бұрын
My original vintage system(new circa 1978), was the Pionner PL-540 turntable, Sony STR-V3 receiver, Sony TCK-5 tapedeck and Yamaha bookshelf Rock Monitors, 2 way. Over the years I have tried to find something similar, but no dice. Oddly the big thing for me was being spoiled by the Yamaha speakers! I have NOT been able to find their equal at the price since! I love FULL spectrum sound and these were it. I have been looking for these or equivalent online and no luck.....Now I have replace my Pioneer with the same model, gotten next level up in the receiver (STR-V4), gotten the same tape deck(nastalgia as decks have greatly improved since that one), and Nova 6 speakers, which are overlooked and underated in my opinion. Still a work in progress. And all for about $1000 Canadian including shipping.... I agree with your Pioneer amp. I have a 1991 receiver which is amazing to me. It is the Pioneer VSX-9700S, which I did have brand new when it came out, and recently purchased one for about $250. It has since gone on the fritz so it needs some work. Hopefully just caps and ressodder, but here's hoping. I was amazed at how good it sounds, but it should. It was $1300 brand new in 1991.... By the way, Paradigm is pronouned PARA DIME, like the coin....
@VagueRANT100
@VagueRANT100 3 жыл бұрын
I have been using STANTON 680EE Carts for 40 years and can recommend them...loved this video!!
@richclips
@richclips 3 жыл бұрын
Goldring Lenco GL75 can be lovely, if the idler is in good condition and the arms pivot bearings are intact, they dry out and go hard so may need replacing. Lots of nice old B&W speakers out there too, DM4 for example, and old Kef speaker's, Celestion, Goodmans, Mordaunt Short, so many that sounds great. Also cartridges, Shure M75, Goldring G800. This can all be great fun, especially if you can give them a little TLC, you can find some bargains and put a system together for a lot less than £1000 😃
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@mostirreverent
@mostirreverent Жыл бұрын
In the US it’s probably easy to find, but you can get some nice ADS speakers for about $300 to $400. I recommend the L880s. While expensive for vintage, $250 will get you a brand new Audio Technica VM540ML cartilage, which is amazing!
@Techrewinds
@Techrewinds 3 жыл бұрын
excellent video i have the NAD 3010 Hooked up to my ADS Speakers and it sounds Great !
@msgillingham
@msgillingham 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting review, My vintage system consists of an Ariston RD11s turntable fitted with an Infinity Black Widow tonearm with an ADC ZLM cartridge € 580.00 my amplifier- receiver is the Sansui 441 €115.00 and loudspeakers a matched pair of Mordaunt short MS 400 floor standers €170.00 Vandamme Black studio grade speaker cables with gold plated Banana plugs €70.00, Total outlay €925.00. This system has put the smile back on my face and has that foot tapping drive to it. Vintage gear can be so much fun, again thanks for the excellent video.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!! Thanks for sharing! Nice arm too...
@msgillingham
@msgillingham 3 жыл бұрын
@@anadialog Another excellent turntable is the Sony PS-X 600, mine has a Coral MC 81 and an AT 33 Mono LP Correctly set up this deck can easily outperform most turntables in any price range. They sell for between €350.00 to €600.00. I use this in my main system.
@bjornborg5798
@bjornborg5798 3 жыл бұрын
Hvala vam za ovu edukaciju stay healty
@jackedkerouac4414
@jackedkerouac4414 3 жыл бұрын
Last week I saw a Technics SA-200 receiver for sale at a record shop. I got excited since I'm new to the hobby but I knew better than to buy it "blind". When I got home and looked into it I was disappointed to learn the shopkeeper tried to rip me off. He was asking for $170. They go for 75 - 100 bucks on ebay
@caligula57
@caligula57 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! As always.
@newtonsantos_photo963
@newtonsantos_photo963 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats for such amazing series !!! Only one comment: the choice of Shure and/or Stanton Cartridges is a must, mainly by the fact that is quite often available in most of the Countries and, new styles offered in the market to assure the longevity of the investment 👏😎
@drcordelier7496
@drcordelier7496 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I bought a Luxman L-410 in good condition a few weeks ago. Vintage from the finest. Greetings from Germany.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice amp, congrats! Can't go wrong with Luxman.
@thisisnev
@thisisnev 3 жыл бұрын
@@anadialog About a year ago I snapped up an L-114A in really nice condition for £80. They really built them to last!
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky guy!!
@martinscase3904
@martinscase3904 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video . Just would like to confirm how outstanding some vintage kit can be. My turntable as a case in point - the Thorens td150. My first proper turntable as a kid. Little did I realise how damned good it was! So, a succession of 'upgrades' - Rega 3, Linn LP12, Townshend Rock, all the fashions (!) and I'm back now, full circle wth the humble giant killer that is the td150. It takes a bit of effort yes, to set it up and fine tune and fettle the suspension. But oh my lord , the effort is so worthwhile! This 50 year old TT now sounds so incredibly realistic - dynamics , separation, silent backgrounds, rock solid images. Just Wow.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true! Thanks for sharing that!
@albo1506
@albo1506 3 жыл бұрын
Good to get some focus on vintage gear. For me vintage ends somewhere between 1973 - 1977. After that amps were using ics(integrated circuits) instead of transistors. Not good soundwise but cheap. I have both the Dual 1019 and the 1229. Also the Lenco L75. The Lenco is perfect for rebuilding. If used as is, always replace the v-blocks in the arm bearing. My receiver is a Sansui 5000x with Sansui SP5500 speakers. Cartridge these days are the Ortofon anniversary 40. Looking forward to the next episodes.
@dusteye1616
@dusteye1616 3 жыл бұрын
Good job. Thanks
@simonmarsden66
@simonmarsden66 3 жыл бұрын
I can also recommend the NAD 3120 I have one as a backup and had to use it over Christmas when a valve popped. It sounds very different to the Quad but was still pleasing to the ear
@keithwood4031
@keithwood4031 3 жыл бұрын
I only listen to 2 sources; Records (LPs) & CDs and last year bought a new turntable. Not vintage as it's the Rega P3 but otherwise I'm all vintage and still have my old Dual stored away in a cupboard. The only reason I upgraded was that the Dual was suffering from incessant 'screaming' which I believe was some kind of feedback. As my otherwise vintage set-up won't come in at the €1K range I'll save further comment until one of the next instalments but thanks for a very promising series and I'm looking forward to #2 & #3.
@TheSoundrookie
@TheSoundrookie 3 жыл бұрын
A couple of other suggestions could be 70's receivers. They sound fantastic, and can be bought for very little money with just a little patience. They also look a heck of a lot better than the Nad or Rotel. Some of them also have more watts which increases your choice in speakers. 70's Philips turntables like GA212 - 208 - 202 etc. are not very highly thought off, and can therefore be bought for almost nothing. The funny thing is that they kick the crap out of Thorens (at least in my opinion). They can be placed directly in front of the speakers turned to the max without any feed back,. They can also be placed on the floor while you dance around like a maniac without skipping due to the floating suspension. Try that with a Thorens and see what happens. They also look awesome, and sound absolutely amazing. If you're on a budget you can't go wrong with the AT95 cartridge. It also fit the impedance on many build in preamps in 70's receivers, which lift it to a level many wouldn't expect. It's not a coincidence it's called a hifi classic. When it comes to speakers, just be sure that the foam edges are okay. On old speakers they can be as rotten as .... Also be careful if you are buying speakers that has been refoamed. Not all know what they are doing, which can ruin the speakers. Many really old speakers, and newer cheap ones has a paper unit as tweeter. They are to stiff to let the fine details ring out. Word of advice: Always go for dome tweeters. The most important advices I can give is; 1. If you don't know how to check if what you wanna buy is okay. Bring someone who does. 2. Do some surfing before buying. There are people out there who thinks their junk is gold. Get a good idea about what is a fair price. Then you can make an awesome deal, and get a kick ass system for less than you think is possible. I wish you a happy and succesful hunt.
@HansJazz
@HansJazz 3 жыл бұрын
You're damn right about the Philips turn tables! I have the GA 212 and GA 213 and they are awesome, even with the original cartriges. I use them.with a Akai AA1020 and Philips AD1256 12" full range drivers in a simple open baffle. Sounds great.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Nice suggestions, thanks!
@TheSoundrookie
@TheSoundrookie 3 жыл бұрын
@@HansJazz I love the Akai 10.. series. They are highly recommendable. At the moment I have a Sanyo DSC8000K (the top model of 74 I believe), but my next one may very well end up being an Akai. They look and sound amazing, and visually one of those babies will fit my Akai X-200D perfectly. The receiver may be changed, but as you can imagine the Philips turntables are not going anywhere. Stay safe and awesome dude.
@TheSoundrookie
@TheSoundrookie 3 жыл бұрын
@@anadialog No no, I thank you. Your video(es) are awesome, and always a pleasure to watch. Please stay safe and keep them coming. You rock.
@HansJazz
@HansJazz 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSoundrookie I will not part with my Akai. Paid only €10 for it. Had to replace the lights but otherwise it works fine. The older models look great indeed. 1970's....... Stay safe as well!!!!
@renatogonzalezmora4191
@renatogonzalezmora4191 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Jico Needle for an old Shure V15 Tipe IV and it sounds at least as good o even better than Tidal on my Clearaudio Perfomance turntable/Esoteric integrantes amp.
@vks4392
@vks4392 Жыл бұрын
Nice Video. Pls look into ADS Braun Speakers also. I have some collection and listen to them regularly. Awesome speakers
@yaniv-nos-tubes
@yaniv-nos-tubes 3 жыл бұрын
great video, i used to own a rotel amp from 1988 and i loved it. had a 90's nad amp and currently i'm using an arcam delta 120 from the early 90's and b&W dm 580 from around the same era. some brands components get along with other brands components some really don't, so to my opinion the amp/speakers part is the most important and people should start with one of them and than try to find a good match ,once they figured that part all the rest is much easier.
@michalhabarta2915
@michalhabarta2915 3 жыл бұрын
A great video again! I can highly recommend these devices: vintage receiver Pionner SX 450 (1978) and speakers KEF Cantor III (1984).
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, also for the recommendations!
@erwindewit4073
@erwindewit4073 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! I'd also think about the B&W DM330i (1987). I used to have two sets of them and I really loved them! Here in the Netherlands, you can get them (restored) for 350-400 euros.. They are also regularly rebuilt and have a very nice vintage sound I think. I also recently picked up a B&O BeoCenter 2100. This has an integrated cassette deck (pretty good), but the amplifier section was remarkably good. It wasn't regarded very highly then (well, it IS an expensive brand really), so I picked it up for 10 euros! I also bought a 1978 fully restored Luxman R1500E for 450 euros. Okay, a bit more expensive, but man, it looks and sounds amazing! And I also pickup a set of free Mission 301's from the mid 90s. But the foam surround of the woofers were gone / disintegrated. So, for 25 euros, I replaced them, and they sound quite nice as well. I run them with a Squeezebox Classic (actually, the original which has better parts). That really works well! And runs Spotify. Combine it with a Topping D10S (99 euros new) and WOW.. Total second hand cost (B&O + Missions + Squeezebox + Topping + cables) was 170 euros! Turntables always seem difficult to me. Balancing them out, new oil, etc. Bearings have to still be good.. For me, a minefield unfortunately... And.. The 1019, 1219 and 1229 models are so famous here, that refurbishers are always faster than I am ;) So I went for a Thorens TD-160 (then 25 euros!) and nu TD-124. But that really is a very different pricepoint..
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
You really seem to know how to make the most out of this vintage gear, congrats!
@davemckenzie4363
@davemckenzie4363 3 жыл бұрын
As always a great video. Well done.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave!
@davemckenzie4363
@davemckenzie4363 3 жыл бұрын
@@anadialog I have a system that is all made from older stuff. The turntable started as an Acos Rega Planet. I've changed to an RB250 tone arm (recently rewired by Origin Live), a glass platter, new motor, bearing and recently picked up a mission 773 MC cartridge in very good condition and a Sumiko blue point as a stand by. I have two amps. An Audiolab 8000a and a Linn Intek because I like the phono stages in them. The speakers are Heybrook HB1's. Slightly bright but very detailed and they suit my little room. I always look at older 'classic' components with a view to improving but I've sort of stopped for now as I'm satisfied... temporarily.... For now :)
@basquecheetah5989
@basquecheetah5989 3 жыл бұрын
nice video I was looking for vintage preamplified amps info.Thanks
@faludabutt8253
@faludabutt8253 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 3 жыл бұрын
NAD 3020 👍👍👍👍. Also the NAD 316 BEE any version. Combine them with inexpensive PSB from bookshelf speakers from around 2008 and you have magic floating around your listening room.
@1mctous
@1mctous 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one new in 1981. It's hardly the last word in transparency but it's very sweet and warm sounding and surprisingly powerful.
@zulumax1
@zulumax1 3 жыл бұрын
Was the 3155 as good sounding, or just more watts, bells, and whistles?
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 3 жыл бұрын
@@zulumax1 Not sure what your asking. What 3155?
@zulumax1
@zulumax1 3 жыл бұрын
@@stimpy1226 NAD 3155 Integrated amplifier
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 3 жыл бұрын
@@zulumax1 I’m not familiar with the model 3155. But in general if you purchase anything that says NAD you more than likely you got a very musical sounding electronic instrument. used to recommend NAD to friends looking to purchase a system.
@allanjacks7147
@allanjacks7147 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this video. I was just thinking of looking at some setups as I get a something together. Looking forward to the next two in the series, just hope you don't go Macintosh for the high-end because my wallet certainly won't go that far. Keep up the great work. I sent some coffee your way in appreciation.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Allan!
@gatto1966
@gatto1966 3 жыл бұрын
12:08 Io presi anni fa un Proton 520 (che e' praticamente un Nad 3020) e ringrazio ancora chi mi ha consigliato. Per una spesa ridicola, credo di aver speso 150 euro tra Ampli e tuner Proton 420, ho un suono che e' una meraviglia. I controlli dei toni permettono di avere il suono preferito in base al disco, permette testine MM e MC, 20 watt per canale che suonano come 200... E si, il vintage e' un'altra cosa.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
E se ci si sa muovere, anche un bel risparmio!
@newtonsantos_photo963
@newtonsantos_photo963 3 жыл бұрын
And, with respect to the speakers, my humble contribution: Celestion 3 (UK) and BSA K6 (BR), both with excellent "image" and "bass" features for a Bookshelf class.
@VagueRANT100
@VagueRANT100 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my CELESTION Speakers and used them for 20years
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@FLH3official
@FLH3official 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video, I personnaly like to use vintage hifi and I'll wait for your next ones. My own setup in the living room: amp Marantz 4270, turntable JVC JLA 40, cassette Kenwood KX-1060 and a pair of Celestion Ditton 66 (Yes, they're WAF compliant!). The main drawback of the vintage gear, in my opinion, is its maintenance. If you are living outside a very big city you'll not find easily a tech and you'll have to learn how to do things by yourself. And I waited during all the video to see la Signora Anadialog entering in the field of the camera and grabbing you by the ear in order to help her to finish the dish washing we heard in the background. Poor of us, real life can be quite intrusive! ... :-)
@paulwibb.8944
@paulwibb.8944 3 жыл бұрын
Marantz rocks,, check out the vintage marantz FB. group.
@FLH3official
@FLH3official 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulwibb.8944 Oh , yes , after 45y of duty it still rocks! It's my day to day amp/tuner and I listen music and radio on it every evening when I drink peacefully my apéritif after a too long day of work. Switch on the blue lights and ...relax.... Many thanks for the info about the group, Paul! I think it's full of usefull infos and my old & trusty 4270 need some new bulbs/led/whatever (I got it from my grandfather and it's priceless to me), but I'm afraid not to have enough time to set up an FB account and being involved in, unfortunately :-(
@paulwibb.8944
@paulwibb.8944 3 жыл бұрын
@@FLH3official that's excellent,, I've had a few amps and the vintage marantz is one of my favorites,, they have great phono stages and the tuner is excellent,, Keep on rockin my friend,,👍
@jimmyjoejeeter2366
@jimmyjoejeeter2366 3 жыл бұрын
I done a lot of maintenance myself from watching you-tube videos. My two Reel to Reels weight about 40lbs each
@jazzfreek54
@jazzfreek54 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I sold my Denon DP62 TT that I bought in about 1991 with a Shure VR-V (I think) and 2 stylii. I bought the table ifor $600. I sold all in 2005 for about $500. I'd love to have that back along with my Audible Illusions Class A tube preamp. Oh, the pain...!
@VIDSTORAGE
@VIDSTORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
PRECEPT is a good high end line of cartridges by Audio Technica from the 1980s that you may want to look out for ...I bought a old belt drive Technics off of Ebay about 12 years ago and it had a Precept mounted on it , model 220 ..I never had heard of that name before but the sound it brings out is one of the best.. The table was not great though ,the motor went bad and could not find a new one but the cartridge was a great item so I took it off and used on a better table ..It made the 60 bucks well worth the price I spent getting that turntable..
@marjanopresnik73
@marjanopresnik73 3 жыл бұрын
Marantz pre amp 3250, power amp 170 dc, cassette deck 5025B, tuner 2110 and revox B77 Mk II is my choice. Still looking for vintage turntable and some speakers.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice choices!
@torintalcul
@torintalcul 3 жыл бұрын
Se avessi soldi e un grande garage dove mettere roba, comprerei tutto. Rimango, come un babbeo, ancora ipnotizzato dalle lucine degli stereo anni 70 🤤
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Idem!
@zulumax1
@zulumax1 3 жыл бұрын
Rotel 820B, best low power integrated amp I have heard to date @ 25wpc.
@paulknight1248
@paulknight1248 3 жыл бұрын
Hi the epos speakers you showed were infact the epos es14 which is larger and earlier version ,the es11 were easier and less fussy on rooms position but sounded fabulous and got better as you upgraded, I've still got mine
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Oops! You're right. Got confused, very similar! Thanks for pointing that out!
@christianweise7348
@christianweise7348 3 жыл бұрын
Leak Delta 30 with Telefunken TL- or TLX-Speaker or Acron 400b is also a nice combination
@raycimbalnik5159
@raycimbalnik5159 3 жыл бұрын
My first (and current) setup runs around $1200 U.S. and will surprise you on the sound! Not retro but easy to aquire. A fluance rt85 turntable and a pair of Klipsch the Sixes powered book shelf speakers. Each speaker has 100 watts and a built in phono preamp its probably the easiest way to enjoy fine sounding vinyl! Also has a very small foot print!
@1mctous
@1mctous 3 жыл бұрын
Get a better phono preamp! Klipsch put a kludge into the Sixes and even a modest external phono stage like the U-Turn Pluto 2 ($99) or the Schiit Mani ($129) will give you much better sound.
@raycimbalnik5159
@raycimbalnik5159 3 жыл бұрын
@@1mctous eventually I plan on getting larger speakers,was thinking klipsch heresy for now. Eventually I want the LaScala al5. Either way ill have to get a reciever with a phono stage or a separate preamp.ive heard bad things about the preamp in the sixes,Sixes, the sound is flat and lifeless, honestly thats not entirely true, I think the cartridge may have alot to do with how my setup sounds.it sounds nice. However its my first 2 channel setup and I admit that I haven't heard any other vinyl setups so once I hear more I may have to agree. Either way,thanks for the advice!
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@raycimbalnik5159
@raycimbalnik5159 3 жыл бұрын
@@anadialog thanks!
@konstantinoskonst.6778
@konstantinoskonst.6778 3 жыл бұрын
This is a timely video as I just bought a Marantz 1200b :) Greetings from Greece Guido!
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Kalispera!
@ShareHobby
@ShareHobby 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos. I Love the Christmas gift to me SKW Black-gold OCC speaker wires! Please do a Vintage High End suggestions. Ex. Sony ES, wooden sided equipment from the 80s.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! With Kit#3!
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 3 жыл бұрын
Grado used to have a $13.00 cartridge that was all the rage in the industry. An upgraded version is now $70.00. I had all three of the cartridges you recommended and they were nice in the time that I owned them which was many many years ago but the Grado blew them out of the water.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, these are very quite low budget. Next kits will include better stuff. Which Grado? Gold?
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 3 жыл бұрын
@@anadialog I can’t remember but I know that I used it in one of my systems many years ago and I was dumbfounded by the quality of the sound. Articles were written in absolute sound, Stereophile and others about this all time best buy. Sorry I can’t be more helpful about the model number. Do you remember it was only $13.00
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 3 жыл бұрын
@@anadialog Just reading the February edition of absolute sound and there is a review of the Grado timber series Opus 3 cartridge retailing at $275 that Neil Gader went crazy over. You may want to read the review on page 36. Right up your alley.
@1mctous
@1mctous 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of those really good and cheap Grado cartridges back in the day. The current Grado Black is good but not great. A-T and Nagaoka currently make better tracking and sounding cartridges in the $100 range.
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 3 жыл бұрын
@@1mctous thanks for the feedback. Grito cartridges are for people who like wonderful harmonics and a sweet sound. Earlier Ron in my listening history the $13 cartridge was pretty awesome. “Time passes, things change“ now I listen through a Lyra Lydian.
@QoraxAudio
@QoraxAudio 3 жыл бұрын
3:48 "Let's start guys!" *bam! midroll add starts!* 😂 I would never recommend a vintage cartridge, especially to a newbie: they don't have a microscope to check the stylus tip and they don't have the tools to check the state of the suspension. A bad cartridge might damage their records. Best to start with something like a fresh new ATVM95E.
@hugobloemers4425
@hugobloemers4425 3 жыл бұрын
An other great video about vintage stuff. I am happy you make these recommendations and not TechMoan because that would instantly bump up the price at e.bay. personally I think Dual is better than Lenco, you just have to compare the platters to be convinced. Be careful with turntables, I have bought about 10 different ones on-line and they all need work on them. The bad news, most of them work but there will be something wrong that makes them sound worse than they have to and sometimes you may even think it is just not such a nice sounding model. If you are on a budget, try to buy a Dual with an M44 cartridge already (or rather sill) on it. In my opinion the V15 and the Stanton EEE belong in the mid class category and not budget. And if you put a Jico Ciabatta needle ($250,-) on an M44 you have a high-ish end cartridge as far as I am concerned. My current HiFi is as follows: Dual 1009, 10 Euro and 20 hours work (I have 2 Dual 1019s but the 1009 is what I use at the moment) Shure M35 (new) 90 Euros, yes I know it is too much but I wanted it and I love the sound it makes with the Dual. Luxman L210, (2x50W integrated amp from the 80's) 130 Euro Magnat Pro-15, (very obscure model but think of the Magnat All Ribbon 5 or 6) 130 Euro So for less than 500 Euro, you can have quite good vintage sound. PS, I am thinking about upgrading the speakers with Mundorf capacitors, coils and resistors and bracing the cabinet. They already sound good but this should take them to the next level and cross overs are the weak point of every speaker, specially vintage ones. Other projects for when I have time: Marantz 5025 cassette deck, Dokorder 7100 reel to reel deck.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I should be offended by the opening comment...just kidding! 😊 Yes, you have to bee patient and work on vintage gear. It's part of the game. Thanks for you suggestions and congrats for the setup!
@renatogonzalezmora4191
@renatogonzalezmora4191 3 жыл бұрын
Thr best cartidge I owned in the late 70 was a moving iron AKG P8ES.
@walterpen371
@walterpen371 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with your choices however those are European prices. Here in Canada / US there is a humungous demand for vintage that the prices are sky high. Warning on rare equipment is that since few were made and sold, replacement parts are next to impossible to find. Especially for those monster powered receivers / amps.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, well I did extensive research and on hifishark I found the prices I presented also in dollars. Some components are hard to find in the US and that is why I put various models. Those are probably more costly as you said.
@deanokay666
@deanokay666 3 жыл бұрын
Good video (as always) but some (choose you’re own noun) are already bidding more for a NAD 3020 on eBay than it cost new. Remember, this was a budget amp, as is all equipment mentioned. . . On that note, I’d be very interested to see top recommendations for mid and high end vintage hifi components.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Those are coming up in the future. Kit#2 and Kit#3.
@1mctous
@1mctous 3 жыл бұрын
Try to get a NAD 7020 (3020 + 4020 tuner in 1 chassis). They're still genuine bargains and you might enjoy what's still on the airwaves.
@fts81
@fts81 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Guido, great setups but I missed the vintage marantz amps, they are true classics
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Had to make a selection...add some models for the community....remember the low budget though!
@newtronix
@newtronix 3 жыл бұрын
One amp I would go for is the Audiolab 8000a.
@theaylesburycyclist8756
@theaylesburycyclist8756 3 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon from the UK 🇬🇧 👍
@kirilstoykov8254
@kirilstoykov8254 3 жыл бұрын
🤘🏻
@cezarvasile1635
@cezarvasile1635 3 жыл бұрын
❤️🤟
@7AccordHomeStudio
@7AccordHomeStudio 3 жыл бұрын
I like your videos and in most cases I share your opinion... but why did you skip Denon? Denon PMA320/520 and mainly 720/720A are much better than NAD 3020 for the same price. These are from 1989-91. The next models were 360/560/860/1060/1560 and a 860 can be a great deal for about 100-150 EUR. You spoke about Rotel and Pio but never Denon. I was very sad as it is my favorite brand.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many out there...thanks for adding these suggestions!
@MrAustrokiwi
@MrAustrokiwi 3 жыл бұрын
Well done: This is long over due... next you need to mod and upgrade a vintage turntable!! I am going to break your request......you missed the legendary Grace F-9 cartridge( I am a B&O MMC2 MC20cl user). On the lenco L75...its a cheap idler, that as your budget increases can be upgraded to high audiophile levels.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
No, you got me wrong positive and useful implementations are very welcome! It's a community...and a dialog! Thanks for sharing Ian! The Grace F-9 has a very high price tag though! Not for Kit #1, probably for the third kit! 👍 P.s. even the Bang and Olufsen is very good but not for this budget
@MrAustrokiwi
@MrAustrokiwi 3 жыл бұрын
@@anadialog I look forward to KIts 2 and 3 then.
@1mctous
@1mctous 3 жыл бұрын
The Grace F9 isn't in this price range but wow, what a sound when you put one of Peter Ledermann's new replacement styli into it! It puts most $500-1K cartridges to shame.
@MrAustrokiwi
@MrAustrokiwi 3 жыл бұрын
@@1mctous Which one do you have? I am tossing up between the OCL and the CL? Will be ordering this week
@1mctous
@1mctous 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrAustrokiwi Heard with the CL. No need to worry if you don't have the extra $100.
@1mctous
@1mctous 3 жыл бұрын
No audience love for the Pickering XV-15/Stanton 681 EEE? The replacement styli are much cheaper than the Jico/Shure and they sound much like the current Nagaoka MP-series.
@hippydippy
@hippydippy 3 жыл бұрын
As a long time collector, seller, trader & buyer of vintage gear, adding anything to that list after the mid 80's is ridiculous imho. I've put many vintage systems together for friends. as well. Sadly you missed out on mentioning a lot of 70's equipment that is far superior to the later models & can be bought for fairly cheap as well. Some good choices though here & there.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Great! This is your chance to correct that, please list them here!
@kevinreilly7595
@kevinreilly7595 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I agree using a vintage receiver can be a great place to start. Marantz, Pioneer and Sansui have signature sound and tone. If you have an opportunity, listen to a few to see what you like. I have experience with Sansui 441, 551, 771, Model 7, 7070 and an 8080. I kept the Model 7 through it all and use it often. Scott receivers in the 300 series can be a steal as well and they sound terrific and I use a 385R often with a modern CD transport. Vintage speakers can be a mixed bag as with anything 50 years old. I’ve been through various KLH models (6, 23 & 5), AR 2ax and several pair of Advents. I would definitely add Advents to the speaker list, they are plentiful, not more than 250$ refoamed and capped and they sound terrific with a sneaky bottom end.
@brit-in-czech
@brit-in-czech 3 жыл бұрын
I have never heard you mention vintage Bang & Olufsen. No good? Those old Beograms are fetching quite high prices it seems to me.
@phrtao
@phrtao 3 жыл бұрын
Once you factor in cables and Interconnects (not any real vintage bargains there) your $1000 budget will not go far. Most vintage gear will probably need restoration to sound at its best or maybe even work at all. I think the real benefits will only become apparent in the higher budget categories.
@daviddavidsonn3578
@daviddavidsonn3578 3 жыл бұрын
NAD3120 20W per channel on 8ohm is not enough for my speakers.
@sexytasmin
@sexytasmin 3 жыл бұрын
The Shure V15 cartridge is far too good for inclusion on the turntables you mentioned .
@paulwibb.8944
@paulwibb.8944 3 жыл бұрын
Yup,, the cart is gonna cost as much as the deck,, for Shure,,😆
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, I checked. Perhaps top condition models as I said. And even if so the total sum still is around 1000$/€.
@paulwibb.8944
@paulwibb.8944 3 жыл бұрын
@@anadialog A JICO HE stylus retails around £135,, alone,, add in a usable decent second hand V15, and there goes another £100+,, If your gonna fit a £35 stylus on these carts,, you may as well just buy something cheaper in the first place, as you won't unlock it's potential. Bottom line,, if you want a GOOD V15 type111 setup plan to spend around £300,, (got the T shirt my friend)
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
I know, it ain't cheap. But it is a great combo for the price. Thanks for tshirting!
@paulwibb.8944
@paulwibb.8944 3 жыл бұрын
@@anadialog thanks for your continued time and effort to bring us great content,, much appreciated,,👍
@kyron42
@kyron42 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't every episode a special episode.
@paulwibb.8944
@paulwibb.8944 3 жыл бұрын
No,, very special,,👍👍
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I say that too often...sorry!
@kfernandes86
@kfernandes86 3 жыл бұрын
does anybody know how those vintage turntables compare to a Rega Planar 3? Mine isn't exactly "vintage", I think it is around mid 80s, I have owned it since 2014, I got it locally from a friend of a friend for 250 Euro, and it works well. But it is the only turntable I have ever owned, so I have no idea how it compares to any other turntable....nobody else I know owns a turntable to listen to :P
@newtronix
@newtronix 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I would go with the Rega. I guess this vid was about trying to be vintage. If you want a good HiFi for sound only then there's loads of stuff from 80s and 90s. The audiolab 8000a is a great amp for instance. Tannoy 609 or 611 speakers are great also. They'd go well with a Rega!
@kfernandes86
@kfernandes86 3 жыл бұрын
@@newtronix thanks, I am also more of a fan of 80s gear :p. I have recently decided to go into separate pre amplifier and power amplifier. And was actually considering the audiolab pre amplifier. One of their later models though as I saw it has a gain control dial. And my speakers are Mission Cyrus 782 which have 91.5 dB sensitivity, with my current amplifier I hardly go past 8 o'clock on the volume
@AriKona
@AriKona 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Shure V15 Type 5. Shure does not make replacement styluses for ANY of their cartridges anymore. www.whathifi.com/us/news/shure-to-end-phono-cartridge-business-after-86-years-production The only reasonable replacement is the Jico (which I have now). I watch eBay have haven't seen an authentic new or "used" V15 stylus offered in over 2 years (and why would you want a "used" sylus anyway?) So, unless you have a better alternative, Jico looks like where I'll be buying my styli in the future.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
If you check on hifishark you will find plenty of them. A lot of people get a used cart. If it isn't completely gone it will still sound very good and will cost much much less, a very important point for many, especially young people.
@quintnessen4606
@quintnessen4606 3 жыл бұрын
No Kenwood amp?
@manuelmartos8464
@manuelmartos8464 3 жыл бұрын
I love the KA-2002 I bought at no more than one hundred bucks. It is a delicious little miracle (as they say).
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, the Kenwoods are very good and with great looks. In fact the pic of the video's thumbnail is a Kenwood!
@AuggyNole
@AuggyNole 2 жыл бұрын
paradigm is pronounced with a long I sound... it sounds like "para-dime"
@anadialog
@anadialog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I am Italian as you probably know so I mispronounce several words.
@AuggyNole
@AuggyNole 2 жыл бұрын
@@anadialog no worries! love the channel, and appreciate the content✌
@markfreedman2470
@markfreedman2470 3 жыл бұрын
You seem to have a problem with your illustrations. You showed a KLH MODEL 17 stating it was a model 6. You showed a little AR-4 saying that it was an AR-3a. There is an extreme difference between an AR-4 and an AR-3a. The AR4is a small budget speaker system. The AR3a has a 12 inch woofer, a dome mid range in the dome tweeter. It weighs in at around 50 pounds. It is drastically different speaker than in your photograph. I’m a vintage audiophile. Believe me I know. Good luck changing things around
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, I did put a wrong picture of the A3a, the picture shows a pair of AR6 NOT AR4 as you stated while the KLH are model 6. Model 17 has a small line, like a frame, in the front. So I guess in the end you don't really know. ;-)
@kencur9690
@kencur9690 3 жыл бұрын
10:22 - you mean this one? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGHHlKlsfLCBhNk That’s vintage alright!
@rodrogers7553
@rodrogers7553 3 жыл бұрын
Try saying Pair A Dime.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for my mispronounciations. I am Italian.
@yaniv-nos-tubes
@yaniv-nos-tubes 3 жыл бұрын
take the highest price new tube amplifier that you can find, take one tube out and see the "made in china" label than try to say again that modern amps are better at a higher price range. it's either tubes or toys.
@Dano831
@Dano831 3 жыл бұрын
Pronounced: Para “dime” ...lol
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
I am Italian, sorry about that.
@thisisnev
@thisisnev 3 жыл бұрын
The NAD 3020's price keeps creeping up,, but a cheaper alternative that slips under the radar is the 7020 receiver - it's a 3020 and a 4020 tuner in one box. I'd also recommend looking out for Luxman's entry-level amps - the L-1, L-2, L-113A and L-114A - which often go for $150-250. They hit a sweet spot for both warmth and detail. A word of caution about vintage AR speakers: the foam surrounds on the woofers are almost always perished, so you need to factor in the cost and time of replacing them. This also applies to a lot of other vintage speakers with foam surrounds.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
True, nice tips!
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