Analog Mastering Chain (Explained) - TIMESTAMPS IN DESCRIPTION

[@cavemanmasters]

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[@aviatedviewssound4798]

so you're switching to plugins mate, i think i recognize you from the plugin alliance forum on facebook

[@cavemanmasters]

@@aviatedviewssound4798 yessir! 99% ITB now with the occasional 1% analog summing on my SSL or Dangerous for abit more "headroom" (see latest vid for more deets) 👺🔥 gonna make a video about how i transitioned from full analog to digital soon 🙇🏻‍♂️💯

[@aviatedviewssound4798]

@@cavemanmasters cool don't forget to buy a plugin called ddmf metaplugin to load you're plugins in so you can oversample them to fully get rid of aliasing with you're plugin alliance and fuse audio plugins also check out transatlantic plate reverb and seventh heaven which is a bricasti m7 reverb emulation and render it at 192khz or oversample it to x4 times inside ddmf metaplugin, also sir audio standard clip for analog type non distortion hardware clipping and also check out d15 repeater as an delay that emulate every existing hardware and the noiseash ruletec which is the best pultec emulation hardware and stay away from waves, softube and i won't recommend acoustica so much their vvery bad at emulating compressor and they take a lot of cpu. i am also ITB mate and never regret it since the plugin called metaplugin was released it can do crazy stuff as a plugin wrapper it's like my virtual analog rack and there's more update coming. bro we are finally here and you got plenty of dumbass buying hardware why we're selling ours.

[@cavemanmasters]

@@aviatedviewssound4798 brotha coming in hot with the SPICY TIPS 🙏🏼🔥 THANK U my good sir, will def do more research and look into this gem (i love their MDE stereo for gooey 2bus love) 💎💯

[@aviatedviewssound4798]

@@cavemanmasters you're welcome mate just trying to help people's production.

[@sinuous1]

As an old school hip hop head, this video hits home. Wishing you much love on your journey brudda!

[@cavemanmasters]

my man 💯🔥 appreciate you G, bless u for taking the time to check out my channel fam 👺♥️

[@sinuous1]

@@cavemanmasters No doubt my dude. I subscribed. I'm along for the journey. Salute!

[@FrancisArevaloMusic]

so cool to hear you dive into these!

[@cavemanmasters]

Ayeee cheers brotha, glad you enjoyed it. Hope you learned a thing or two! Appreciate you fam 🙏🏼♥️

[@garyshirinian]

Very nice. What do you think of the Heritage audio i73 interface. Do they sound good? Thx

[@cavemanmasters]

@@garyshirinian i73 sounds pretty solid to me, quite a robust sound for the price. honestly can't go wrong with heritage audio in general, they make really good stuff.

[@garyshirinian]

@cavemanmasters thx for replying.

[@jvf6257]

Most of serious mastering facilities we use the signal unbalance balance most for mixing and recording, but still not plug ins to replace a germanium analog sound or optical compressor in the Eq and limiter field are some good algorithms plugins but can be more precise but not provide the texture of the analog gear, good luck in your new journey when the spirit call, not way to be denial nice informative video for those need some gear

[@cavemanmasters]

my man appreciate u and thank you so much for the kind wishes 🙇🏻‍♂️🙏🏼♥️

[@ezporcelain]

Loved the video. Thank you so much.

[@cavemanmasters]

ayeee hella appreciate that my man 👺🙏🏼 thank u for the love G ♥️

[@nolanneal]

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[@cavemanmasters]

my brotha 👺🙏🏼🔥

[@GoLongboardBroseph]

Wonderful video and beautiful gear. Can the 8 channels of summing in the Heritage Audio MCM-8 ii be used completely separately from the 500 series units? I want to sum my 8track reel to reel but want my 500 units separate, they just need a power supply. Just wondering how to routing works, whether I can use the 500 series ins and outs in my patchbay outside of the final stereo out on the mcm-8. Your insight would be really appreciated!

[@cavemanmasters]

Dan my man appreciate u for the love and support 🙇🏻‍♂️🙏🏼♥️ the mcm8 ii has 2 bypass/engage buttons per channel...first button is to turn that channel on/off, second button is to insert/bypass the 500 series unit in that channel slot. hope that helps! feel free to ask any more questions you may have, i love answering these ⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@cavemanmasters]

in your particular case, for strictly MCM summing you will have to engage all the channel "on" switches (white button) but have all the 500 series switches "out" (red button) then you would just XLR in/out the powered 500 units in the back and then use DB25 breakouts (or the L/R aux) for the summing. 🤓💯

[@GoLongboardBroseph]

@@cavemanmasters Thanks so much for the help and quickness! That pretty much answers what I wanted to know. I assume that you can't use the summing part and the 500 series separately at the same time. I just want to be able to use the 500 units when I'm not using the summing mixer (for example, if I am tracking vocals into my DAW through 500 series pres/eqs/comps).

[@cavemanmasters]

@@GoLongboardBroseph no worries my G 🙏🏼🔥 glad to be able to help a fellow brother 💯 tbh i've never tried using the mcm in that way, but looking at the schematics on the manual i don't see why not! if in doubt, i'd give the friendly folks over at heritage audio a shout and they'd be more than happy to help 🤓

[@yubasunproductions2494]

Are you using Fab Filter Plugs in your mastering chain now or something better? I tend to use Pro L and Slate mastering plug and try to get my mixes right so i can keep the master simple. I have to go deeper with things I didn’t mix

[@cavemanmasters]

Yuba Sun my friend, so so sorry i missed this comment for such a long time 😭 i have used the fabfilter limiter since their first pro L (using pro L2 these days) and to this day Pro L2 is still an industry recognized standard worldwide. when pushing extra hard and i'm losing dynamics...sometimes i would put slate fg-x before my final limiter and use the knobs to get abit more low end knock and definition without losing volume (shhh secret sauce) 👺🤘🏼⚡️ but always remember, every incredible master ALWAYS starts with an amazing mix 💯 that law has not changed since the beginning of time.

[@justinupchurch1773]

I’d sure like to see a video where you use that gear on a project. It sounds like you really know what you’re doing! It looks cool separated by the little pillars, but man I’d be really nervous about having close to 30k worth of gear stacked in a tower that could fall.. cus I know that I’d get drunk one night & start appreciating the way the gear looks all lit up & bring down the tower. I have heritage audio mcm MkI. It’s apparently a line mixer, not an actual analog summing unit, according to dangerous audio anyway. Anyway, I dig mine. I use the aux in & out for the transformer at the end of the line mixer, run everything that I can through it for warmth.

[@cavemanmasters]

uh oh....i think maybe dangerous audio forgot to read the manual for the mcm 😅 (they even include a circuit diagram) from the official heritage audio mcm manual: "The mixer follows a passive voltage summing topology, having the gain loss restored by a classic ́73 type class A output stage."

[@justinupchurch1773]

@@cavemanmasters yeah, apparently it’s passive summing, requiring the gain stage at the end of circuit to bring levels back up or something like that & the dangerous is active summing, illuminating the need for all that. Anyhow, from watching other videos, I see that you have a d-box also. Which do you prefer?

[@cavemanmasters]

@@justinupchurch1773 yessir! i had both for different reasons, i used to work as a console tech so i know large format desks inside out. i eventually went with dangerous because i can do a lot more with clean signal, anything emulating a neve-specific circuit is going for character/tone...which is sometimes too specific and not always flexible to work with! i find the dangerous safer, for the genre's i work in have heavy bass. neve is colourful and will fold the subs abit too much sometimes it can even slow the speed of transients if you're not careful!! 👆🏼👀

[@audiokemestry]

great review and details about your gear. what are you using as your mid/side encoder? I guess I must have missed that part. also, have you noticed that the headroom is significantly lower when using the unbalanced outs on your massive passive? I picked up an MP earlier this year and i've been using the unbalanced outputs (which bypasses the transformers) pretty frequently on projects---its a whole other world indeed. but i definitely can't push the MP as hard when using the unbalanced outs.

[@cavemanmasters]

thank you for watching! 🙏🏼👹 currently i'm just using logic's I/O utility for MS. i agree with you about the reduced "headroom" when using Massivo unbalanced connectors, the hysteresis and soft clipping in the xformers definitely contribute to some increased headroom and perceived loudness. i also find the sweet spot is wider when pushing into them (xformers), more feeling but less precise. i'm usually only working within 1-3db range though (mastering) so i don't really run into the headroom issue as much. hope that helps and please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any additional questions or comments! 👹

[@thepanicroommastering2062]

Thanks for the Video. Holy Moly all that amazing Gear 😳 I do have a question about your Sidechain technique you showed us with your Massive Passive and the Dangerous Compressor. So, you talked about how much you love the sound of the Massivo…but a bit later you told us that your 500 Series Rack‘s Output is hitting the Dangerous Compressor Input very hard. Then you talked about boosting the Bands of your Massive Passive extremely hard. That means that the Massive Passive was just for the purpose of eq‘ing into the Sidechain ..? (with a Split Signal?) I wonder because ..if so you wouldn’t hear any direct Sound from the Manley right 💁🏻‍♂️ ? or did you Monitor the Sidechain Input while boosting? Sorry I am confused 😕 Thank you very much for answering and for teaching us these techniques. I hope you are doing fine Bro, i would appreciate upcoming Videos very much ✌️best wishes

[@cavemanmasters]

Blesss fam for the love 👺🙏🏼 I really appreciate it! yes once the massivo is inserted into the dangerous sidechain input, you don’t get the sound of the tubes anymore. With this sidechain method, I am mainly using the unique curves on the massivo eq to control the behaviour of the dangerous compressor. Of course there are times I just run stuff through the massivo without patching into any side chains for the beautiful clear tube colouration.

[@thepanicroommastering2062]

Oh wow ok, that is by far the most expensive Sidechain EQ i‘ve ever heard 😋 Couldn’t imagine, but now it makes sense because you said „the curves of the Massivo are so musical“ Thank you so much for clarification & your fast response Brother. Blessings upon you 🙏🏻✨

[@dab7963]

You sound so sad. I wish you health and happiness.

[@cavemanmasters]

appreciate the love brother 🙏🏼♥️ it was a bittersweet but necessary move and ultimately helped me learn ALOT about myself in the process 🤓

[@dab7963]

@@cavemanmasters good for you. Always hard to go outside your comfort zone.

[@cavemanmasters]

@@dab7963 haha yessir! who knew "outside" my comfort zone was travelling inward and sorting out my "inner demons"...not this guy! 😅

[@alexdawson7851]

What do you use the API 525 on?

[@cavemanmasters]

hey man thank you for taking time and checking out my videos, much appreciated 👺🙏🏼 the 525 is a feedback-style compressor so it has a lot of colour and gorgeous api punchy/smacky tone. love it on anything that needs a chunk of thick smooth creamy flavour (vocals, snare, percussion, horns, keys, synths, etc) for kick and bass i prefer the ssl gcomp (less clipping going on in the low end)

[@prodjincmusicproductions6587]

new to your page, I just wanted to know why you are selling your gear?

[@cavemanmasters]

absolutely brother, basically wanting to go travelling with my partner after covid is over to explore other cultures and places to diversify my understanding of life and people. gear means nothing when i don't know where i'm going with the final result. the quality of my results come from effective communication between engineer and client (NEVER my studio). i believe meeting people/visiting places from all around the world will make me a better communicator and ultimately a better person/engineer because i can understand my clients better 👹 i always put my clients first, nothing but the best for my community. Every one of them is special to me ♥️

[@prodjincmusicproductions6587]

@@cavemanmasters Our creator is amazing and is calling you in this season. Blessings to you for having an ear to hear the call!

[@cavemanmasters]

@@prodjincmusicproductions6587 that's love brother 🙏🏼♥️ grace and blessings to you and your loved ones too my G

[@cavemanmasters]

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[@prodjincmusicproductions6587]

@@cavemanmasters Thank you!

[@ELPLAK]

I am new here, I didn’t get why you sell all the gear. Are you moving entirely in the box?

[@cavemanmasters]

my G welcome to the family 👺🙏🏼⚡️ made a video explaining here --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnmYZWmbbKxpd80

[@ELPLAK]

@@cavemanmasters I just saw the video you suggested me. As I commented there, I am clapping at you. Brave and wise man.

[@cavemanmasters]

@@ELPLAK my man i'm so humbled 👺🙏🏼♥️ thank you so much for taking the time and watching the video, i hope to make you proud for future videos too!! 💪🏼✨

[@prodjincmusicproductions6587]

great video, where did you get the screws for your 500 gear?!

[@cavemanmasters]

appreciate you for checking it out man 🙏🏼♥️ i bought the screws from a local company called Radial but you can find them here at this link too: www.amazon.ca/Radial-Engineering-500-ThumbSet-Screws/dp/B0725WV7WF hope that helps brother! 🤓 please let me know if you have any additional questions about anything 👹

[@prodjincmusicproductions6587]

@@cavemanmasters Thank you!

[@bakedcreations8985]

If you make a mediocre song and master with this equipment than make a good song and master in any daw which one would sound better do you think? Or...if I master the same song with this equipment and with any daw would anybody notice the difference?

[@cavemanmasters]

yooo that's actually a fire question 🙇🏻‍♂️🔥 no amount of equipment is going to make a mediocre song sound good, i will pick the good song and master it in garageband over the mediocre song. it all starts with taking the extra time to select good samples, capture quality recordings, and a great mix. that way, you can leave it as is or "crush" it as hard as you want and it'll still sound good at the end of the day 👺🙏🏼💯

[@russellwilson9740]

Aww nice kitty!

[@cavemanmasters]

thank uuu 🙇🏻‍♂️♥️ cleo loves giving everyone little head boops it's so cute 🐈‍⬛💋

[@russellwilson9740]

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[@cavemanmasters]

@@russellwilson9740 cat family! 🐈🐈‍⬛♥️ Harley (the white one) is camera shy but i try to get them both some screen time because i know they make people happy and it's good therapy 🥰

[@teamxecuter3904]

What converter you used

[@cavemanmasters]

hey fam thanks for taking the time to check out my channel 👺🙏🏼 at the time i was using apogee symphony as my main a/d and dangerous dbox plus for d/a and monitor switching i also have a video on my channel showing my current rig (if ur interested) 👽

[@anujmajumdar4615]

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[@cavemanmasters]

bro went too hard...ended up in the deep end nearly drowned LOL 😅🤘🏼🔥

[@quazrmusic]

Great video! Thanks for the spaghetti sauce!

[@cavemanmasters]

bless G 👺🙏🏼🔥 hope u found some cool stuff in there brotha!

[@lortakeover2129]

What would you recommend for pre amp should I buy one or used uad pre amp

[@cavemanmasters]

amazing question bro 👏🏼🔥 uad all the way, their stuff is super and DEFINITELY use Luna daw for analog summing 👺♥️💯💯

[@producertv8964]

@@cavemanmasters why did you sold everything? Because of UAD? Sry but I don't have the time to watch 22 Minutes just for this answer

[@cavemanmasters]

@@producertv8964 i sold everything because i wasn't learning/growing anymore, i had everything and was comfortable. i needed to sell everything to grow as a human being 👺♥️

[@cavemanmasters]

@@producertv8964 (video coming soon as well 🤫 ) 👹✨

[@cavemanmasters]

@Per Meister the reason is here --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnmYZWmbbKxpd80 i collect 4 digits every month from royalty cheques alone, i may not be rich but think i'm ok for money my friend 🤡🤡🤡

[@heart_of_dankness9430]

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[@cavemanmasters]

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[@TheMrFinalizer]

Why are you selling everything?

[@cavemanmasters]

i did it to prove to myself that gear isn't everything. i have another video coming v soon explaining this and alot more ♥️ trust in yourself, not the gear...having big speakers and racks of hardware is romanticized and exhilarating (victim here)...but so is skinny dipping 👹

[@MadACeTeeMack]

All you needed was a good AD converter and a super computer to better process your sound, ie Intel Xenon 64G motherboard

[@cavemanmasters]

brooo fuck yes and now that i have tasted the honey i want more 👹🍯

[@joehazeofficial2]

Why are people selling off their shit??

[@cavemanmasters]

warm greetings my friend!! apologies for the super late reply 😭🙏🏼 i hope you were able to check out my video explaining this question, but long story short...i realized gear doesn't make me a better engineer! i have to work on myself as a person at the core to truly improve as an engineer 👺🤘🏼⚡️ hope that answer helps my friend, my answer also has not changed since i made the video over a year ago!!

[@JACKPAPER]

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[@cavemanmasters]

my G 👺🙏🏼🔥 appreciate the love and support fr man, ur beats SLAAAP 💯

[@JACKPAPER]

@@cavemanmasters much respect ✊🏽

[@Darksagan]

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[@cavemanmasters]

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