Analysing a FIS Racer (Freeskiing and Gates)

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@shooter7a 2 жыл бұрын

My $.02 ..... As a poorly coached Jr. racer long ago, I never learned how to "feel" the line. I also tended to ski around the gates. As I progressed down a run, my line would get worse and worse. Free skiing, I looked like a top level skier, even on difficult/hard conditions. But in a course my skiing was way way worse than I was capable of. It was not till my racing was long over that I finally figured out how to "feel" the line. The key is to think about how early your turn is relative to the FALL LINE not, not relative to a gate. Work on your transition technique (it starts with foot feel) till you can keep the skis on the snow while making very fast edge to edge transitions. In softer snow, the "edgeless/trackless" portion of your tracks should be LESS than one ski length even at maximum effort. Now you have the tools. When you finish a turn, you want to load the new edges as quick as possible, so that the maximum loading on the ski is before you are into the fall line. What this means is that effectively your new outside ski is still uphill, and your body is inclining/falling DOWNHILL, pulled by gravity. Then once you get the hang of this, start to think about "reaching" farther out with your skis during transition. This is scary, because there is so little load on your skis because gravity is pulling you to the inside of the turn. So how does your body respond? With higher edge angles from the very start of the turn to generate turning forces so you do not fall down. You literally push your body to keep it from falling over. This perfectly sets you up to ski OVER the top of the gates and destroy the course. I think you will also find that as you pull the start of the turn forward relative to the fall line, the skis will be more even. The reason the inside leg is forward in the turn is because the turn is late relative to the fall line. The later you are, the more the angle of the hill drives the inside ski up, and therefore forward. The geometry and loading on the body and skis really changes when you are working with the hill and gravity.

@vorwaerts7 2 жыл бұрын

Great to see you back on youtube. ...and nice analysis, Seb - as usual. I really appreciate your way of thinking. More specifically I completely agree with 'slow skiing'. I find it extremely hard to have recreational skiers going slow. But the ones that adapt to it will be greatful....

@raimox1 2 ай бұрын

I have been skiing for a long time and I also came to the conclusion that to improve technique you need to periodically train at a slow pace for several hours a week. It is important that the slope is not steep.

@MrArunasB 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for brush before and after gate different explanation. I always had in my mind that this is the place I have to be, but still had this nigtmare scared concentration on the gate poll. Will try your advice to set my mind on the brushes more.

@magnusfasting5206 2 жыл бұрын

Good to see you back

@magnificoas388 2 жыл бұрын

Hello there, lots of skills here. We have to consider that the snow is quite fresh and slope is not steep. You have to be tactical here, skiing on eggs, being more 50/50 pressure and longer radius taking time in the turn. What Valentino does very well. I would'nt focus on external ski at the begining of the turn in those conditions... Same slope and more icy would be completely different thing :)

@thelion6614 2 жыл бұрын

Seb, thanks for posting the video. I notice he comes up awfully high in the transition almost to a straight leg position. (I know this well as I struggle with this myself coming from the old school straight ski generation). It might be another reason why it takes him longer to initiate the turn. P.S., get a microphone holder ;)

@beattheclock7509 2 жыл бұрын

Haha yea I ll buy one with an actual microphone when I have some money ;)

@sheltermutts4185 2 жыл бұрын

I’m curious why you would have him push the outside foot forward rather than bring the inside foot back?

@beattheclock7509 2 жыл бұрын

Good question! I prefer to have the focus on the outside ski, thats the reason. The danger of this formulation is that some people will push the outside ski away from them, such that they have too much weight on the heel. To me, i like to focus on the outside ski, since when i really push forward AND also push on it simultaneously, that is when i get a really good feeling. As a corollary, the danger of pushing the inside ski back is that you lose focus of the outside ski. But as always, whatever works for you is the correct way.

@sheltermutts4185 2 жыл бұрын

@@beattheclock7509 Thanks for the answer and the video. I’ve done it both ways but much prefer pulling that inside foot back(heel to heel), probably harder and earlier than one would think. Try it both ways next time you’re out. Happy turns.

@vorwaerts7 2 жыл бұрын

@@beattheclock7509 nice explanation and I agree. That said, I personally like the imagination of pulling the inner ski back also. Guess this is an individual thing. To me it is mainly to stay in contact with the inner edge of the becoming inner ski. I bet the hockey playing student of yours for sure has both feelings programmed already;)

@Greyvend Жыл бұрын

I would say, focusing on the inside ski is more productive. They call the outside leg a "stupid" leg, as there isn't really much to it. Whereas the inside ski controls the hip position and therefore defines the whole body positioning. So, every turn, we all should try to pull the inside ski in and on the inside edge for proper turn initiation.