(Analysis) Brutal Doom 64 - Better Than The Original

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

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[@marts4169]

In my weird head canon I like to think that Doom 3 happens between 64 and 2016, consistent with the release order. After 64, Doom Guy stays in hell to fight demons until he gets betrayed and captured. While imprisoned, Doom 3 happens, where you play a different marine(s) and you see and read tablets about the Doom Guy and his exploits in hell as this legendary warrior wielding the Soul Cube. Then in 2016, Doom Guy is released from his imprisonment and his saga continues...well, until Eternal´s DLC happened.

[@vergil2067]

Now we have a canon game that takes place between 64 and 2016.

[@ph-fi7qo]

lol you guys need to stop your fanfictions trying to fit Doom 3 in the timeline. Doom 3 is and was always meant to be a reboot, it's not gonna be canon.

[@DinoCorpsHunter4]

Hugo Martin, the director for the new Doom games, has stated that Doom 3 is canon.

[@AltAccouny-zn8zb]

We gotta listen to the boss​@@DinoCorpsHunter4

[@M1551NGN0]

Now try and fit The dark ages in this

[@Simplebutsandy]

Every time I see Doom3 mentioned I usually start replaying it. It's easily my favourite Doom game.

[@justinr9784]

Yeah it's one of those games that anytime someone mentions it I find myself reinstalling it😅Same with FEAR.

[@Idkwhattoputhere5123]

Chad

[@papalegba6796]

Played it when it first came out, loved it. Alone, in the dark, with headphones, great experience. Was surprised how much hate it got.

[@-error-7936]

I love doom3 fans

[@justinr9784]

@@papalegba6796 To high school me in 2005 that shit was as real as it got. I literally screamed at that part where you first encounter the two Hell Knights. My parents came running into the room thinking I'd been stabbed or something haha. Now I've played it so many times I just breeze through it but the first time you play it when it was new... that was insane. I had not played anything like that before.

[@noone5454]

I would recommend playing the unofficial update for BD64, v2.666. It adds new monsters (some from Doom 3, some from Quake, some originals), new maps, new looks, and numerous revisions.

[@KyanoAng3l0]

It has proper Doom 64-style sprites for the Archvile, Revenant, and Spider Mastermind (which were missing in D64) _plus_ a deadlier variant of the latter.

[@shadowthehedhgog1867]

@@noone5454 WAIT ¿REALLY? WHAT ENEMIES COMES FROM QUAKE,I ONLY KNEW SOME CAME FROM DOOM 3,BUT I TOUGHT ALL OF THE REST WERE ORIGINAL

[@MDK-fo7jw]

Man, seeing a dragon run around E1M1 makes me want to replay with Guncaster . . . Awesome video man, love the style, and the model!

[@goatleg8927]

There is actually a fan update to the mod called version 666

[@frenchlad9441]

a fucked up game like doom 64 being even more fucked up with gibs and liters of blood? count me in

[@KyanoAng3l0]

If you guys want a Nintendo 64 "port" of the original Doom and Doom 2, there's a mod called D64ifier that converts the PC versions' graphics and sounds to that of Doom 64 so basically PS1 Doom with the N64 graphics. And if you want Brutal gameplay on top, D64ifier's "Core" module is compatible with BD64.

[@Immorpher]

You'll be happy to know there's a big update to Brutal Doom 64, which is version 2.666 that is almost finished! It is made by a team of modders with permission from Sgt. Mark.

[@DarkFoxOkajima]

The thing that makes me think DOOM 3 is indeed canon and the first game in the series is the fact you have the soul cube in Eternal on a desk in one of the rooms in the hub, and also, despite people saying they dont look alike at all, I still find Doomguy in Eternal incredibily similar to the Marine from Doom 3. But the soul cube is the biggest hint for me

[@churibman]

9:09 sitting on the imp ledge was a neat idea 😀

[@mcelfy1006]

i little note for hellhounds, they were actually considered to be new enemy type in in doom 64 but again, limitations of nintendo 64 didn`t allow it, i mean we didn`t see revenants, archviles and spider masterminds because of that, it`s nice to see brutal doom trying to bring back cut enemies

[@redlister2934]

That cat and mouse level in Doom64 still haunts my dreams.

[@ThommyofThenn]

Edit: for everyone's edification, the "laser gun" is named the Unmaker in game. Neat collectable Stacking discounts you say? You know this is a company that is made for gamers

[@underthemayo]

Totally. Doom 64 never really held my attention past the first 7 or 8 levels. It just felt off to me. Brutal Doom 64 on the other hand got me to play all the way to the end. Loved it.

[@AVGNROCKS1996]

My fan theory for 3 is that it’s a branching timeline that led to the same hell, and the guy on the tablets and in the one sarcophagus is the original Doomguy, while you’re just another marine.

[@ph-fi7qo]

It's not a fan theory, it's fanfiction. Doom 3 is a reboot, it's not canon.

[@DearAnem0ia]

I was not expecting a giant anthropomorphic dragon to be talking about Brutal Doom 64 today, but here we are. Take my subscription.

[@afd19850]

I definitely like your head canon on D3, makes so much sense!!!

[@Lord_Deimos]

First time I've played Brutal Doom 64 was the same day I got Titanfall 2 back in 2016, such a great day.

[@justhere4637]

0:46 I would like to hear your headcannon.

[@Armstrong84]

I actually love to think 3 is also a prequel because when the original Doom starts the base is already infested. I also think the guy in the 3rd game isn't the same marine, he gets dragged back to hell and devoured.

[@sneedclavehere8918]

​@@Armstrong84 I always thought of Doom 3 as some sort of reboot or just a reimagining of the first Doom

[@Armstrong84]

@@sneedclavehere8918 You're not wrong that is actually what it is, I just think it's fun to believe otherwise.

[@panthekirb7561]

​@@Armstrong84 The guy in the 3rd game survives. You actually play as a different character in the original Doom 3 and in the two expansions (similar to Quake 2)

[@void_official404]

Brutall Doom 64 V2.666 is the most current version, and it's really good :) Great Video, man. I can't wait till you try out Brutal Wolfenstien, that's also my favorite mod :)

[@zefiroth2678]

brutal Wolfenstein is one of my favorite

[@ABCodeX]

You should check out Doom 64 CE project void. It adds many of the enemies and weapons from Brutal Doom.

[@Kenshiro3rd]

Just discovered Brutal Doom 64? Absolutely LOVE this mod... have had it for years. It's an awesome mod.

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

Known about it for years, just finally got around to it.

[@Kenshiro3rd]

@@Jarekthegamingdragon nice. It’s an awesome mod. Love that Hulshult did some music for it:

[@Megaspartan23]

"I can't read. I'm just dumb, i guess" Sounds like the people from the movie Idiocracy.

[@professorrutherford6383]

I have to say that you have some of the most based opinions on games. Boneworks is your favourite VR game, you didn't like Doom 64's ambient tracks... hot take or not, I wasn't a fan of them either.

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

I mean, the ambient tracks are good, I just thought classic doom style music would have been better.

[@professorrutherford6383]

@@Jarekthegamingdragon Yeah, I agree. There is absolutely a charm to the ambient tracks, but the gameplay didn't suit them. Your point about the tactical mode complimenting the ambient music was excellent, I'll definitely check out this mod.

[@stevenconnell4222]

This was music style Midway games went with. The PSX version of Doom also has a similar ambient soundtrack from the same composer. In my opinion it made the games feel a bit more like survival horror than action.

[@vahlok1426]

0:44 Now there's a meme (or at the very least a meme format) I haven't seen in a long, long time.

[@wickdaline8668]

Do you use a mo-cap suit for the dragon?

[@ziomccall4085]

Man,can't wait for you to do Brutal Wolfenstein.

[@CoracaoAcidental98]

In my opinion, by far the best Brutal mod, maybe BDv22 is a close second, but I think the stuff in BWolf are incredibly when implemented and the mod feels more polished than most other Brutal mods, also it features a full campaign, a rarity in Brutal mods. You and your team did an amazing job on that.

[@yhe100]

Doom 3 Phobos Ep 3 is out

[@RiiZU_Official]

Is an adorable dragon, *AND!* is a *DOOM Player!* Automatic subscribtion!

[@Treblaine]

Although I like the idea of Doom 3 being canonically (and thematically) the first game, that makes id even worse at counting than Valve. So the order the games are numbered is: 3, 1, 2, 64, 2016, Eternal.

[@DearAnem0ia]

Ah yes, my favourite number, "Eternal"

[@Treblaine]

@@DearAnem0ia kinda works as a synonym for infinity which is a number.

[@ph-fi7qo]

That's fanfiction, Doom 3 is just both a remake and reboot of the first game. Doom 3 isn't canon.

[@milos2478]

Hey Doom 3 phobos Episode 3 is out!!!

[@Pbmarron]

I recently played Doom 64 on Xbox and really loved the creepier vibe. I like it when Doom leans into horror.

[@lllXanderlll]

Doom 64 being the true Doom 3 is pretty sick and then having actual Doom 3 be its own thing with a different Doom Marine feels fair. That way it's not completely thrown to the wayside

[@flashn00b]

Wanna think the Doom 3 Marine is the Dark Lord, with the events of the game happening concurrently with 1 and 2

[@GabrielOnuris]

Oh man, just loved the new graphics on the dragon! One needs some real talent to make that!

[@deadtotheworld]

bro that dino jumpscared me

[@AaronMorrisTheSteamFox]

Thank you for the Sewers theme from Chex Quest 2!

[@karisasani7006]

There is of course the add-ons to brutal doom 64 Ive seen that does of course further refine the mod and adds in new enemy variants and some unique ones like a new boss monster that looks a bit like Korax from Hexen just in the style of Doom 64.

[@blazerashbringer2001]

KZbin recommomanding this how do they know i like scalies

[@llamadelreyii3369]

Nice video, also, some comments are right, you should give a shoot to BD64 2.666 version. Its well polished, has new stuff, REALLY good sprites for monsters and more.

[@ananon5771]

Please do Ancient aliens (vanilla, it does not work right with BD and is not designed for it)

[@matt92hun]

Human jumpscare in a scaly video.

[@mcgibs]

Doom 64's monsters have much more of claymation look compared to regular Doom, so it makes sense that Blood's monsters fit so well. Also, I like the idea of Doom 3 being a prequel, showing how it all went down on Mars proper before Doomguy arrived on Phobos.

[@shadowthehedhgog1867]

I WOULD RECOMMEND THE REMAKE CALLED "V2.666" IT HAS MORE WEAPONS AND ENEMIES

[@ghosterino]

You should also check out Doom 64 CE. It feels like a remastered Doom 64.

[@arthurg.calixto3338]

Nice scaliesona bro

[@3ch0s4rc4d3]

Believe it or not Doom 3 is actually not canon to the original 2. It actually has no correlation because the 2016 and Eternal had confirmed that it's actually a parallel universe

[@ThommyofThenn]

I'd not thought of it much but I like your view on Doom 3. I'm borrowing this canon

[@Des_Hex]

Glad to see this one getting showcased properly. The more languid pace of vanilla D64 isn't really for everyone and I'm glad this exists to offer some spice to that experience

[@foremanxsl7225]

You should try out Gladiator Sword of vengeance

[@zerotactix5739]

Why does it feel like there is Ray Tracing or something enabled? Does Doom64 really look this good vanilla or it's just the Brutal mod?

[@cosmiccynic2757]

This was my first experience with Doom 64. Really fun mod. But I think it needs a new update to add the new levels from the rerelease and to polish some stuff.

[@harrifongostudios]

Do you have your set up for the motion capture you have on your avatar somewhere? Are you just using vive trackers and an index?

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

Correct, that's my set up

[@user-ew7vj3hw9m]

I feel like doom 3 is a different version of the universe but it’s the same version of hell invading any thing they can get to

[@bioshock6935]

I would say its better not only in the visuals but it has that more gothic look how ever it suffers from having less enemies at once on the maps due to the cartridge limitation on the n64 but with brutal doom you can add mods adding in so much higher textures and enemies but i do prefer doomn64 ce version

[@Angelfox51]

I think Doom 64 was less popular because it was released only on Nintendo 64 at a time where FPS games were not that great with a controller. I wanted that game so much on PC. It was already an improvement visually and felt more a proper Doom 2 than Hell on Earth which felt like an expansion of the original Doom. We had to wait 2020 for a proper Doom 64 release on PC, and he met some success.

[@Matt-md5yt]

Glad we gotten the game from the n64 to PC and now we got mods for it.

[@Tucher97]

A slight tidbit, I always assume Doom 3 does happen but on the side of sorts, like Doom 3 is its own thing and the Doom marine in that game is his own person.

[@MegamanMasemuneRyu]

Have you tried Brutal Wolfenstein 3D? It is a reallt fun Doom WAD to play and it includes several episodes including The Spear of Destiny.

[@MegabyteRedSector]

....I always figured Doom 3 IS Doom 1... basically they went back to visit the original story with all the stuff they wanted to the firsy time, but took out for the sake of game speed and available tech.

[@ph-fi7qo]

Doom 3 is both a remake and reboot. It's named "3" because Carmack wasn't a fan of Doom 64 so they called it that way to point it was the official third doom. But it's a remake/reboot.

[@zii8568]

Looks like I’ll need to play doom 64 again

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

I want a Doom 3 remake that plays like BD64

[@thatghostlyal8422]

Yo it's irl jarek, so sad that there's no iconic hat though. One day we have to get a toggle for the dragon model to have it.

[@justhere4637]

1:01 Is this VRchat or something?

[@trittyburd]

Yep, there's a functional DOOM world you can play co-op with friends. Not that many levels and can only carry 2 guns, one in each hand.

[@ultrapro8937]

Yep

[@user-xy7hg4qi7c]

OMG, doom 3 being first makes so much sense, the slayer was just getting into the fight. ALSO. "have you ever fisted a baron of hell" I died. Brutal doom is showing realism in a fake world. People fire miniguns from the hip in real life have recoil. The gun is built to handle recoil, but it still kicks.

[@soulshade9820]

Thanks for a great review. Mod looks great, but as far as I understand, there is no GlORY kills and middle finger anims? Because for me this features a little breaks the immersion in the og brutal doom mod. Also hellhound reminds me the same enemy from Heroes of Might and Magic 5, there was also a hound with two heads (at first level) :) By the way, it's great to see a channel maskot is actually animated)) Looks great))

[@stevenconnell4222]

Doom 64 and Brutal Doom 64 are horror themed. Adding glory kills and insults would take away from the horror immersion.

[@soulshade9820]

@@stevenconnell4222 completely agree 🤝

[@CustodianVirgil]

Hey, Jarek, I love your videos. Just wondering, but didn't Carmack say that Doom 3 was essentially a remake of the original? I could be way off, so anyone please correct me if I'm wrong.

[@ph-fi7qo]

You're not off, Doom 3 is both a remake and reboot, the "different marine" is just fanfiction.

[@Alicechan2137]

brutal doom 64 i played that before they portred the doom 64 on steam lol

[@ghostofhallownest3433]

Hm, cool, wait, will the stream be posted on youtube?

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

Already is posted on my vod channel

[@TheLeftJoystick]

check out doom 64 CE

[@LimitlessEntertainment826]

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[@yahlibar6832]

Doom 3 doesn't contradict any cannon why does everybody allways exclude it? Just put it before doom 2016

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

Because doom marine is not doom guy thus it doesn't fit on doom guy's timeline. It's not connected to any of the other games and it's impossible to know when it happened or if it's even in the same universe.

[@yahlibar6832]

@@Jarekthegamingdragon doomguy is talked about and shown on the stones and we are told about the soul cube and considering his abscence I would place it before he was released in 2016

[@granvillecupido9971]

Hi man im watching all the way from south africa awesome love y videos man can u please review the suffering 1 and the suffering ties that bind man that would be awesome

[@hushix3]

do a review of stalker gamma :)

[@MasterSoto]

Been playing this for years, it's one of the best mods out there. Sgt Mark is a legend.