Analysis: How BAD Is F.E.A.R. (on console) Really?

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Contents Of This Video
00:00 Why Shouldn't You Play The Console Version?
00:40 My Xbox 360 Finally Died =(
02:57 Backwards Compatibility On A DVR
03:42 Thank You For The Birthday Wishes
04:03 The PS3 Version Is BAD
05:34 The Xbox 360 Port
07:16 Exclusive NEW Guns
08:55 Exclusive Levels
09:34 Really Bad Controls
12:33 HORRIBLE Aim Assist
13:55 Bad Audio
14:19 Interesting Changes
14:40 Backpack Reloading...For Some Reason
16:27 Melee Has Been RUINED
17:36 Conclusion

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

HUGE THANK YOU to every one that tuned in for my birthday stream, it meant a lot to me! I have a lot of fun at these streams so I hope you'll follow and come hang out next time! www.twitch.tv/jarek4gamingdragon

[@JackWse]

Lol, semi-automatic shotgun... Kind of brings a whole new meaning to low frame rate compensation lol.

[@user-mo6hq4vx2u]

Smack the bottom right and slightly tilt the console trust me it's fine mine did that too I did it on my Xbox 360 from 2007 and it now works like normal sometimes dust gets into there so smacking it fress it of the dust you are not very bright aye hahahahaha

[@Matt-md5yt]

Man, an OG 360 died by Fear. Also, thanks for covering the console version of this game.

[@bitterman213]

The Phat ones die almost by just looking at them for too long

[@tcwtfln_yt]

F.E.A.R when C.A.L.M walks in

[@Thebossstage1]

It's great on Series X. Runs at a consistent 60fps

[@The_Death_Owl]

Too bad you need the disk which means if you have a series S you're out of luck!

[@Thebossstage1]

@@The_Death_Owl Physical media ftw

[@chillhour6155]

19 year's later, enjoy

[@rkitchen69]

Isn't it still at 720p?

[@ThommyofThenn]

That's great but how do you manage the other issues mentioned here? Particularly with the strange melee jank?

[@TheMC1102]

I really wish Nightdive acquired the license for F.E.A.R. and remastered the first game and its expansions.

[@matteodelapaz1698]

And make it moddable too

[@bovinleephann6210]

FEAR really does need a remaster - iirc you need quite a lot of fixes to make it functional on modern hardware

[@TooMuchSascha]

If I'm being honest - I don't think it needs one. The game's lighting and artstyle and FX and everything else hold up spectacularly.

[@TooMuchSascha]

@@bovinleephann6210 I disagree, I bought it off GOG and it required zero patches to play on W10. The only thing I needed a fix for was EAX but that's the case with any game running EAX.

[@Phantron]

@@TooMuchSascha Extraction Point doesnt "officially" support widescreen for example, so yeah thats that also the games might not run at all on some Windows 8-12 machines

[@ATalkingShark]

Bit of a correction here. There was backpack reloading in the original PC release of FEAR. It was later patched out.

[@Treblaine]

Was it instant or was it with a delay like Half Life 2?

[@ATalkingShark]

@@Treblaine Instant. I remember thinking it was broken.

[@kabob0077]

According to Speed Demos Archive this exists on version 1.04 and lower.

[@TooMuchSascha]

Who the fuck said FEAR was a "slow paced tactical horror game" I just wanna talk to em FEAR is The Raid and The Matrix as hell

[@JackWse]

Yeah and, locking leaning in place lol.. This is why people think of leaning as a cover system instead of a movement augmentation.. that and its default binds of q& e. Change that to c.v and you can hit it with your thumb, can still jump and lean too if you want to since you could just lay the thumb back... Genuinely can't stand shooters that don't have a lien function, but man is it such a sadness when they butcher it from what it could have been. There was a time back when you just were expected to rebind your controls, certainly when you were expected to like take a look at them and see what they were in the first place lol.. perhaps come up with optimal solutions, which is how we got WSAD in the first place lol.. that was the time when you could have an action shooter and still be able to lean left and right in it.. from soldier of Fortune to elite Force 1n2, far cry, fear, stalker, although in all fairness stalker actually is kind of a tactical shooter.. But crisis sure doesn't have to be lol.. until they turned it into a cover mechanic and gimped you and all other sorts of ways for the console brethren Which makes some sense cuz you are wearing a gimp suit in that game.. which in my opinion makes it the unofficial sequel to MDK,

[@nathanshoaf5452]

Really you have taken that 360 to a repair place to replace its disc drive

[@darthcinema4262]

Apparently destroying things is better.....our society has failed

[@Ccberry98]

The sound of opening a 360 disc tray and closing it to see if it works is a terrible PTSD trip… RIP Left for Dead :(

[@mattd5240]

Why didn't you get someone to fix your 360 or just kept it unstead of cremating it

[@zii8568]

Now you should review half life series on console like half life 1 on ps2 and Half Life 2 on original Xbox

[@Matt-md5yt]

I would love that tbh. Orange box for part of the stuff

[@saltierdongs7760]

yo nice half life profile pic

[@nemysyys2285]

@@saltierdongs7760lmao not exactly😂

[@glucosaminecondroitan9135]

I have beat FEAR a few times on 360 and Series X. I don't know how it compares to the PC but I love it.

[@PowderedVoltage]

Well, Xbox wins out for me due to physical ownership.

[@kabob0077]

2:02 This truly is a sad day... RIP to the 360, it's always a pain to see a console, especially a well loved one, die.

[@aarongerard7277]

My 360 died a few years back. It sucks. While I appreciate there being backwards compatibility with the One and Series X, there's so many games that aren't on that list I can't play now because I don't have a 360.

[@brawler5760]

Good thing PC players can get access to those lost 360 games via torrents and emulation. I was pissed that Shift 2 Unleashed wasn’t backwards compatible, and I wanted to play that game so badly…

[@habadasheryjones]

​@@brawler5760 Its never "every game." I've yet to see any emulator or torrent for an entire library. I bet at least 50% of those games are a nightmare to get running on a modern pc. When I wanna do tech support for 2-3 hours or more before I play a game I play on pc. When I want to just play a game I play on consoles.

[@PowderedVoltage]

​@@brawler5760Yeah, but that doesn't amount to much for collectors who care about ownership.

[@JackWse]

Too bad he torched one that could have easily been fixed! Could have been yours for a discount on eBay lol.. that was kind of, that was kind of... Like, I wouldn't have any interest.. But there are genuine people that are genuinely into that.. and eventually there will be no more.. and that would accelerate if everybody douses them in lighter fluid.

[@FRANK45CASTLE]

Trapang 2 is a love letter to FEAR. Highly recommend that game.

[@josedorsaith5261]

I prefer TREPANG 2, honestly. It's a more realised version of what FEAR was shooting for

[@FRANK45CASTLE]

@@josedorsaith5261 Oh fuck yeah. Trepang 2 is so insanely badass. FEAR set the ground floor but Trepang said, lets turn that up to 11 lol.

[@BushMasterFlex69]

@@josedorsaith5261 The thing that gets with Trepang is the no aim feature. I cant get over that for some reason. Just feels like youre hipfiring nonstop. Other than that, its very enjoyable gameplay wise

[@hectic9191]

disk reader goes bad "one of the easiest fixes for the 360" burns xbox. why bro why did u do it XD i used to fix disk readers all the time this is such an easy fix lmao

[@cloudycolacorp]

Jarek in dragon mode looks so funny. something about his mannerisms and the way the mouth moves, it's so entertaining

[@xxrocketshark216xx4]

I first played the game via the 360 port back when my only gaming PC was a Windows 10 tablet that could only run games like Half-Life 1 and Deus Ex. Its far from the ideal way to play FEAR 1 but I had a good time with it and when I finally saved up enough to build a gaming rig I bought the PC version shortly after. Its a good gateway into the PC version imo.

[@kabob0077]

Gonna be honest... I really hope Jarek backed up the data on that 360 before he burned it.

[@tipnrear7494]

Why tf even burn the thing when its an easy fix lmao

[@kabob0077]

@@tipnrear7494 Probably for the bit.

[@samz8691]

I wish more games would make backpack reloading part of the difficulty. In games like FO:NV it's literally better to switch weapons because it's faster than normal reloading sometimes. If it was something I could turn off/on I wouldn't mind as much. That said, shame there's no "FEAR consoles content" mod for classic FEAR, It'd be cool to have the PC version with the exclusive console weapons and maps. (Hey whoever owns the rights to FEAR, Tomb Raider got a remaster that added the PC expansions to consoles and everyone loved that!.)

[@JohnWuWu]

I would've played the "We're ODST" ad song during your xbox 360 funeral

[@kinshra639]

RIP OG Xbox 360. May you rest peacefully in Valhalla

[@Ametisti]

RIP Jarek's Xbox 360. :( My first 360 redrang YEARS ago, then the replacement had the disc drive die. I replaced it with one of the 360S models, and that's been solid for years.

[@AythadisRaven]

As bad as the PS3 port was, it was my introduction to the series, and I loved it. I still remember watching my one uncle play it and I was so shocked by how intense the combat was. I couldn't wait to get my own copy and playing through it.

[@Maxwel_Rodrigues]

I only played F.E.A.R. in the 360 😅 And I love the game even with all the problems, and the Instant Action scenarios was so much fun (F.E.A.R. Files included)

[@user-tp1vi9dq3u]

I think thing where enemies continue to shoot after death is also come from FEAR 2, i have that still so much when played it back in time

[@Romrojal]

I'll be honest, the only reason I would pick up (and once tried on the PS3, disc didn't work so I returned it and got Battlefield Bad Company, better investment in my opinion) is for the exclusive levels, the XBOX 360 has a level where you play as Holiday escorting that Armacham suit in Armacham HQ and the PS3 has you playing as the Delta Force Operators that got turned to bloody skelletons that you find in a lobby in the main game.

[@titanjakob1056]

I think u can get the auto shotgun in fear files (it’s basically both expansions extraction point and Perseus mandate) on the Xbox port plus it fixes the issue with the Machine pistols being OP as you rarely get them and have to go out of your way to find them with bullets magnet slightly being tune down I do mean slightly as the particle canon can sometimes do the it pulls to a random direction

[@rockzen8050]

Best way to describe going from F.E.A.R on console to pc is using the classic halo quote format "When you first Played F.E.A.R (on pc), were you blinded by its majesty?

[@Arthur0ne]

Did you notice any low audio issues when playing it on the Xbox one? I’ve noticed this heavily when playing it on Xbox one S. Sometimes the audio for some sections would just get super low or completely cut out. Don’t know if it’s just my console

[@Karti200]

I hate how they gave 2 new weapons for consoles releases - but never officialy updated those to the pc version :/

[@mancuniangamecat8288]

PS3 only overtook 360 after the lifecycle of that gen had ended and console sales had slowed down due to next gen.

[@recneps1230]

Yeah, but I loved the ps3. It has such a unique exclusive library. The bad thing about the ps3 is a lot of third party ports were pretty bad in the early day.

[@CruxisAngel954]

@@recneps1230love the ps3 but the ports were bad for like half the generation. I just avoid any multiplat releases from 2006-2009

[@gjergjaurelius9798]

Exactly. Like it’s a huge win. 360 stopped at the finish line. Ps3 kept running like where the fuck you going?😂

[@piergiorgiocaroli9201]

Oh, maybe that's why i prefrr F.E.A.R. 2 over the first one. I played the wrong version.

[@crazy4videogames_]

My first experience of FEAR was on the 360. Man stick aim is rough, I feel the same way with Valve games on console. The extra stuff like level where you escort Bishop as Holiday, or the Delta force mission on PS3 was cool. I hope someone can port them to PC. Felt so much better once I could play it on PC and grabbed the whole FEAR collection at a huge sale. Plus the FEAR SDK for custom maps (though Idk how to use it and I can't really find many tutorials or resources on it).

[@greenreaper1605]

I LOVED THESE GAMES. I bought all the FEAR games on 360 from GameStop for crazy cheap, it was my first time playing the series. Basically vodka, pizza, FEAR saga on 360 and snow days. Man that was a great weekend.

[@cameronkabore9263]

Funny enough, as an mainly xbox player, FEAR is probably the 1st game i insisted on learning to play using KB/M on my pc, most of the ones I played before i used my xbox controller

[@MailmanTheShopKeep]

I wish the PC version had the instant action mode that the 360 has. I love replaying FEAR on PC, but if I am itching for a quick shootout; I fire up the game on Series X for instant action

[@chozochiefxiii3298]

I couldn't get f.e.a.r. to run properly on my gaming laptop so the 360 version was how i experienced f.e.a.r. on an xbox 360.

[@zombl337og]

i played the 360 versions of FEAR 1 - 3 and I loved them all for their own reasons. FEAR 1 = best SP FEAR 2 = best MP FEAR 3 = Good B Rate FPS

[@recneps1230]

Fear 1 is incredible on the series x. Upscaled and flawless 60fps.

[@darthcinema4262]

That's how I played it and loved it.

[@zclary923]

The 360 was just having issues reading discs? Should of just repaired it. Easy fix if that was the only issue. I agree F.E.A.R. on PC is superior but the 360 version is more than serviceable. My first experience playing it was in college on my Xbox 360 and it was personally my favorite 360 game at the time. My roomates loved it as well. Would really love to see this game get a proper remaster. Nightdive needs to get their hands on this one.

[@danielnorton9803]

I have a razer controller with programmable buttons. That could mitigate the controller issues and let me use the bumper jumper control scheme

[@davidthorson2036]

There was still enough greatness that shone through that I fell in love with it on the 360. I never struggled with controls myself outside of the melee being iffy and the aim assist going haywire at random like you said. That Watson shotgun also shows up on an Instant Action map in F.E.A.R. Files though just at the very end.

[@pura8898]

Question Any mods for PC that ported over the bonus content from the console versions to PC(primarily guns)

[@stevenarnett4471]

I replay this game all the time and usually go with the 360 port. I’m pretty sure fear on 360 goes up to 1080p if you change it in the system as well I noticed the game has some weird aiming on console for some reason too

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

The console can output in 1080 but it's outstretched 1080, not native 1080.

[@BringerOfMoisture]

I’d love to see you do a video on the PC port of Perfect Dark!

[@Skiivin]

I ONLY have fear on the 360, and I never even knew the dual SMGs were console exclusive

[@KaioKakarot]

My xbox had the open tray error too. I believe the tray or laser misaligned over time, so the xbox cannot read the disc.

[@kahvikone]

End of a long work week and there is new FEAR content to watch. Good start to a weekend.

[@matteodelapaz1698]

Didn’t the Xbox one/series have a general binding buttons option? It might’ve been on the accessibility page.

[@aaronskuse2207]

I kept the corpse of my first 360. Figured I could use it for spare parts if my second 360 needed a repair.

[@FlickTheBrick]

I played F.E.A.R. and F.E.A.R. 2 on the Xbox Series X and it’s actually pretty good. The emulation has some nifty features. But no doubt, the PC version is still the way to play F.E.A.R. mainly due to the controls. I also have F.E.A.R. for PS3, which isn’t exactly a pleasant experience…

[@Flpstrike]

Did you really burn your Xbox 360?, I'm really curious

[@Tucher97]

15:11 Wait, Half life 2 has backpack reloading? I never noticed because I usually stick with a few weapons, those few weapons are automatics. Once I got the pulse rifle, I dont usually stray away from it. As for FEAR teh console ports, never bought them but seeing the "machine pistols" with no animations is very bad which may say the devs needed the consoles to seem more appealing.

[@jaysanj152]

This is an interesting watch and i recommend you should play other FPSs that were released on Consoles as i heard they were a bit different to PC counter parts....Like the Half Life Games. Shame about your 360 cus you could have jail brokened it and used it as a emulation box or just download and play old 360 game that didn't get the backwards compatibility.

[@hugofernandez4459]

Would be cool if now you review FEAR 2 for console, since is the only one you can buy in the online shop

[@saltierdongs7760]

I literally was like "damn his 360 is still kicking" how sad

[@bojeppe6828]

Im sorry to hear that about your 360 man. I have to force disc reader open to put in the game...

[@matteodelapaz1698]

17:10 lol I remember in the ideal version, there were a couple replicas that still shoot on death when slide kicking/shooting them

[@ORLY911]

Ya not sure what he was talking about there that does happen in the PC version

[@matteodelapaz1698]

@@ORLY911 I’m guessing you don’t get killed as quickly in the PC version at least in the patched version

[@Arthur0ne]

I got a controller with back paddles specifically for this game on console. Binding the back paddles to the lean feature really made the game a lot better on console. Btw you really should’ve tried this on Series X since it’s 60fps but you probably don’t have that console so it makes sense.

[@kevincarneling7118]

The laser burns out after a while on every console that has a disc drive!

[@rowyerboat1]

Oh my sweet summer child. Over here thinking an OG 360 gonna read your discs. There’s an evil hex on these machines and they require the sacrifice of your sanity to be appeased.

[@sebs-shenanigans]

RIP 360. What a legend, it served you well Mr.Jarek. May it join its brothers in the digital heaven. Thyne shall be missed.

[@hallowen]

I completed the PS3 version of the game through the game streaming option on PS Plus, I *dreamed* of 30 fps!

[@cpl.barbarusc4814]

The console version is one I want to have mostly as a collectable with the expansions, of course I'll play the PC version as well. Too bad about what happen to your Xbox 360, luckily I still had the chance to fix it a few years back, is a great piece of history. Gaming gods bless backwards compatibility. Note: The PS3 exclusive shotgun, could be called the automatic Warcrime 2.0, hot damn if this shotgun was real, I don't know if anybody would allow to use it. And I might know why people prefer controllers over keyboard + mouse and quoting James Rolfe from a Cinemassacre episode "This fun (controller), this is work(keyboard+ mouse)"

[@bboyx2456]

I had open tray error too cleaned the laser couldn't screw whatever it was ran the disc drive with the 360 open use the black piece to hold it down while disc was spinning worked another 3 months before it just stopped working

[@xxyyxxyyxxyy4926]

The 'offensive' control scheme w/ crouch set to 'toggle' is the move 👌🏻reminded me that there are valid alternatives to the COD ADS control scheme for console shooters

[@Eskinor]

You have a working original 360 still? Holy shit. Edit: nevermind LMAO

[@mastersniper101]

It's important to note that the Series version of FEAR 1 does NOT recieve a resolution boost, only FPS boost to 60.

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

It does receive a resolution boost, up to 4k. Been that way for a few years now.

[@hobknocker9458]

Great vid Jarethesexdragon!

[@thatghostlyal8422]

When hat toggle for the dragon model lol. We cannot lose the hat, it simply was too iconic

[@JackWse]

"I know it's an easy fix.." proceeds to light it on fire... Sprays more lighter fuel after hearing it scream... Lol remember that scene from Monty Python and the holy Grail lol... "...I'm not dead!"

[@thenegromancer4695]

The fact that my ps2 still works just shows the quality control

[@BrawlinEntertaintment2K]

12:51 I thought Never Gonna Give You Up was about to play when those shots happened lol.

[@chemergency]

Sadly the same thing happened to my 360 recently. If the RRoD doesn't get you on those fat models then DVD drive failure eventually will. I did get myself a modded 360 though to replace it.

[@Chad_Wick]

the ps3 cannot hold the power for the fear semi auto shotgun

[@toddhoward1133]

Came here to watch FEAR on console. Currently watching an Xbox 360 funderal while a dragon salutes it as it is being cremated.

[@CruxisAngel954]

I tried playing it on pc a few years back and wasn’t working for whatever reason despite my pc being well over recommended specs. I just replay on series X now to save headache of looking for fixes.

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

You just need a dll fix for the frame rate and that's it

[@Thomas.c4647]

I really regret not installing games earlier on my 360. Could have spared some load on the drive. How 10 year old me put up with that drive at full rpm, I will never understand.

[@Rizarro86]

What’s the name of the song in the background? I know it’s from the FEAR ost.

[@darthcinema4262]

Garage Battle. Best song from the game in my opinion

[@blaringsea8923]

Funny enough. My 360 is doing the exact same thing.

[@VapourforBlood]

I love this game back in the day. I even beat it on the max difficulty with no hud.

[@j.p_de_oliveira782]

Please, could make a How bad is Crysis 1 and Far Cry 2 on consoles

[@xxbigshamelxx8759]

is it anyway to buy the first one on Xbox never played them before

[@micksterminator3]

I noticed my Wii disc drive finally bit the dust. My 360 and og xbox are on their way out. Ps1 is dead. My launch ps2 always had reading issues too. See a trend here?

[@JustPassingBy90]

Rip your 360 , it was a real one

[@X-JAKA7]

8:24 I believe that shotgun is in the Xbox 360 version of F.E.A.R including the dual wielded SMG. Those are also seen in F.E.A.R Files as well.

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

It isn't. It's only in one secret mission in fear files.

[@REZIVORsince93]

I've recently went back and playing through all three F.E.A.R. games on Xbox. Beat the 1st and about to best the second. I can play them on either of my 360's. But..have been playing them now on my Ssries X.

[@saulperez7448]

in the ps3, the weapons have the same recoil you see on the pc version compared to the 360, because it have little to no recoil with a patch it recieve the 360 version.

[@socksleeve]

Actually you can kind of get around the control issues by creating a custom control scheme through the Xbox itself. This will make navigating menus a pain but playing the game itself will be a lot better. I’ve used this pretty frequently with remasters of old games that don’t have updated controls, like Metal Wolf Chaos XD.

[@fuzzlewuzzle9388]

Happy Birthday Jarek

[@RetroDudeX77]

Good video...for a PC Elitist 😊

[@alexshvartz6232]

Funny enough my disc laser for my 360 also just went out

[@wulfone5961]

Will the PC version still work these days?

[@heinrichfletcher6954]

I hate to regret saying this but this is how I was introduced to FEAR albeit the X360, somehow finished them a few times, still have them on that console and didn't get to play the PC version until a few years ago. I am grateful to play the PC version. On Steam. Modded.

[@saneghost7020]

It's grate on the xbox serieX X runs at a constant 60fps or 120FPS if ypu have the TV for it

[@HK47_115]

In this day and age when people are up in arms about video game preservation are we seriously destroying video games and video game consoles for gags still?

[@shodyblankz1250]

So I recently played fear and fear files the comment about how it’s a slow tactical shooter is exactly what I thought it was going to be going in and after my play through and seeing the pc port it is 100% the controls the input delay is real chapter 5 or whatever when you have to jump across the broken floors was a pain I played on a 360 slim it was still a great time but I kind of liked the slower gameplay

[@guyofminimalimportance7]

I think the reason the Console version has backback reloading is to compensate for the clunkier movement and gameplay. The control scheme slows the player down and makes them less effective with an aggressive playstyle, so they were hoping having your guns instantly loaded whenever you draw them would be a buff that still lets you focus on dealing damage fast even with your already slowed down approach. (I can't easily take on this group of enemies at close range, but at least whenever I need the shotgun it will be ready, etc.)

[@CityPopSoundz]

You probably could have replaced the disk drive laser for around $3-$5