Analyzing Maccabi’s Complaints: Did Referees Help PAO in Game 5?

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21 күн бұрын

In this episode of “Give Me Control”, former top level European referee and referee coach Todd Warnick analyzes referees calls in the Game 5 of Panathinaikos Athens vs Maccabi Tel Aviv series.
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@BasketNews_com 20 күн бұрын
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@nationarmy2514
@nationarmy2514 20 күн бұрын
i'd appreciate if u made a video on the whole series panathinaikos- maccabi to see if its fair to have all these complains or no, instead of focus on the last game of the series, I believe the series would be over with the last match istead of having to go game 5. Would be more "healthy" and less one sided
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
@@nationarmy2514 also doing most of them in paid content aint fair either
@sharpshooter0174
@sharpshooter0174 20 күн бұрын
That s ridiculous, even a cricket fan would see that they sent Lesort in foul line intentionally,sometimes in the limit of unsportsmanlike foul. Also, we were robbed in G1 and G3, and now we play G5 in our arena and you expect to rob us again? Series should ve been 3-0 for PAO tbh
@artipichersky9132
@artipichersky9132 20 күн бұрын
dude you are blind. lassor was sent to the line more times than he was actually fould LIKE EVERY SIGNLE GAME. series should have been 3-1 Maccabi if not for you paying the reffs in game 4 and 5.
@user-th2zg7kh1p
@user-th2zg7kh1p 19 күн бұрын
​@@artipichersky9132 Refs in game 3 terrible refs in game 1 terrible it should be 3-1 for pao man
@aggelosdimou7311
@aggelosdimou7311 19 күн бұрын
​@@artipichersky9132now say it without crying
@mariatulip8186
@mariatulip8186 19 күн бұрын
Εγω δεν το χαρηκα ενω περιμενα οταν πηραμε το πλεονεκτημα εδρας τους Αγωνες και να παμε μετα απο 12 χρονια στο Φαιναλ-Φορ ολη η σειρα με τους διαιτητες καταντησε αηδια πια να το βλεπουμε εδω και πολλα χρονια να μας σφαζουν και να μας στηνουν το 2012 και ειμασταν Πρωταθλητες Ευρωπης τοτε και να μην ασχολειται κανεις και τωρα τι; Ολοι ειναι με την Μακαμπι που την σφαξαμε. Επιλεκτικη ευαισθησια.
@johntsou3966
@johntsou3966 20 күн бұрын
I don't know why maccabi cries about the free throws, when their strategy in the 3rd quarter was to basically hack lessort Of course pao will have more ft when you do that
@icmplays8974
@icmplays8974 20 күн бұрын
Let's do math takeaway Lessorts *14* free throws. You have 21 without any free throws from Lessort to 10 of maccabi and 3 techs on maccabi called for no apparent reason, including one during 4th quarter shifting momentum...
@johntsou3966
@johntsou3966 20 күн бұрын
I wouldn't say that there was no apparent reason, Catas was bitchin to the refs for the whole game Also even without lessorts fts there is still a gap but seeing the game i would say that it was fair , maccabi fouled more shooters than pao
@icmplays8974
@icmplays8974 20 күн бұрын
John got a tech from falling because of a lessort screen who is 3 times his size so I guess you can't fall when running into screen, another one was a random bench tech I guess someone stood up for a second so we give Pana a point, and Kattash angrily walked down and back his coach area after a bad call instead of I guess confronting the refs like Pana who didn't get punished for the entire 5 games not a single tech for that but kattash gets one where instead of expressing his anger at a ref he lifted his arms. In the fourth quarter where every single point matters. Refs in general did horrible the entire series for both sides, but it was clear since game 1 that the refs would rather randomly blow their whistle at maccabi.
@giorgoskoukis8240
@giorgoskoukis8240 19 күн бұрын
The problem is not with the fouls against Maccabi, the problem was with the fouls not called for PAO. This is what they talk about in the full version of the video and they are right.
@iceman24a
@iceman24a 19 күн бұрын
​@@icmplays8974Lessort is 2.06m and about 115 kg. John according to you must be about 70 cm and less than 40 kg. You can see the problem here right? The problem wasn't the flopping itself. The problem was that after this he asked for foul.
@DaredeviIGR
@DaredeviIGR 20 күн бұрын
Indeed in one game we got the better calls. No denying that. But the free throws argument is ridiculous, they sent lessor there on purpose and during the entire series, PAO has a avoided fouls in the 1Q especially.
@giorgiosmy4080
@giorgiosmy4080 20 күн бұрын
Really?You should watch the game for a second time
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 20 күн бұрын
​@@giorgiosmy4080was PAO favored by having Lessort being sent to the line that often? I don't think so
@giorgiosmy4080
@giorgiosmy4080 20 күн бұрын
​@@TheAnswer_13bro....how the hell we got the better calls?
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 20 күн бұрын
@@giorgiosmy4080 huh?
@giorgiosmy4080
@giorgiosmy4080 20 күн бұрын
@@TheAnswer_13 ρε αγορινα...παναθηναικος ειμαι.Οντως λες στα σοβαρα οτι πηραμε περισσοτερα σφυριγματα απο την Μακαμπι εχθες;Που παραλιγο να μην εχω σημερα τραπεζακι στο σαλονι;
@dv1935
@dv1935 20 күн бұрын
Maccabi send Lessort on purpose to the charity line because he was crap & then they complain about the FT .Nice argument
@giorgiosmy4080
@giorgiosmy4080 20 күн бұрын
Oh really?The "expert" said that overall Panathinaikos was in favour of the referees but in the video we don't see a single play to prove this, only the 2 wrong calls that Panathinaikos was robbed 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 This video couldn't be a more "clickbait" one #The CRYSTAL CLEAR block of Nunn on Nebo that was called as foul on Nunn it was also in favour of Panathinaikos ??? #The unsportsmanlike foul of Brown on Grant and numerous others on Lesort that were called as simple fouls also were in favour of Panathinaikos ??? #Imaginary offensive foul on Mitoglou was also in favour of Panathinaikos ??? #Add the crystal clear travelling of Colson (none of the refs saw something SO OBVIOUS?) and... #the basket interference that it wasn't called and a 2 points bucket that didn't count for Pana and you have all the colourful bouquet of excellent referee performance last night. Poor Macabbi..... *if you jump and scream like hell on the bench you will get the technical fouls you deserve. *Lesort is lucky he didn't leave the court with a broken arm last night.Next time he will be prepared to play better against excellent mixed martial art's defence of Macabbi. Bye bye and see you next year 😘
@elijoni
@elijoni 20 күн бұрын
1. he clearly punched him in the face. Open your eyes. 2. All the fouls I could think of that you mean wear all intended to stop the ball and not the player. So, easy call: a normal foul 3. Define crucial? Can’t think of a moment where he got fouled in a crucial deciding moment of a game 4. As mentioned in the video by his ne of the best refs to ever exist in EuroLeague that was one call that the refs missed. In comparison to the 10 they missed on your team. 5. I have no clue what you are intimidating to say with that point. Your English is just too bad. Hopefully Lessort also leaves the court next time with a better free throw percentage 😂
@tamvakiss
@tamvakiss 20 күн бұрын
@@elijoni2:45 is that a play on the ball? I dont think so
@jimmybuckets713
@jimmybuckets713 20 күн бұрын
Katse Klapse kiolas re malaka kerdises mpravo sou Kai akoma klegesai apla apolafse oti isoun ligo tixeros Mia fora me tous diatites
@derbymotogp
@derbymotogp 20 күн бұрын
@@elijoni Your team should be in the ban club along with the Russians. Instead ,referees pushed you all series long(including game 5),and that's how you got 2 wins .Even with that, you were far too inferior.
@giorgiosmy4080
@giorgiosmy4080 20 күн бұрын
​@@elijonithe moment you say that Nunn punched him on the face, discussion ends.I have no need to prove you that the sun rises from the rise...don't bother me further more.
@christsant808
@christsant808 20 күн бұрын
Series should be over 3-1 for PAO and the fact we went to game 5 was refs achievement!!!
@giorgiosmy4080
@giorgiosmy4080 20 күн бұрын
100%
@TheBarvaz
@TheBarvaz 20 күн бұрын
Pao fans are the saddest clowns the euroleague has seen. Refs were with them all 5 games no question, and they somehow cherry picked a few errors that went against them here and there to cry otherwise. Keep cheering for players like sloukas who literally piss on you just like he did on all of oly fans. Its hilarious to watch your circus show
@elijoni
@elijoni 20 күн бұрын
that’s complete bs and you know that
@Dani_ego
@Dani_ego 20 күн бұрын
Maybe 3-1 for Maccabi lol
@derbymotogp
@derbymotogp 20 күн бұрын
@@Dani_ego 3-1 for pana is an understatement. 2 wins for maccabi ,because of refereeing , is a disgrace to the game .Even yesterday , the 35 FT for PAO was FAR TOO LESS than it should be with 50-50 refereeing.
@inikous58
@inikous58 20 күн бұрын
The key point in this whole video is him say "all the other errors THAT I SAW".. You probably only watched the errors against Maccabi my friend. Cause Panathinaikos didn't have to face only those 2 errors. Mitoglou in the 2nd half defensive foul was a joke, same as Kendrick's Nunn foul when he block Nebo. The offensive foul of Lessort instead of defensive foul against him by Lorenzo Brown 2 seconds earlier!! 43-43 the score. Lessort made at least 2 baskets where he was fouled and didn't get the +1. At 4th quarter one at 73-67 by Cohen and another one when the score became 75-67 by Nebo. Defensive foul on Papapetrou on Nebo when he tried to grab an offensive rebound! A joke of a call. You can clearly see that Papapetrou does not push Nebo and he makes a theatrical move when he loses the trajectory of the ball!!! Unsportsmanlike foul on Lessort was given after video review and not live. Unsportsmanlike foul on Lorenzo Brown because he hit Grant in the face with the Shoulder NOT GIVEN! 3rd quarter 2 minutes before the end of quarter, Rivero pushed Antetokounmpo for the rebound and was not given Elbow in the face of Antetokounmpo is unsportsmanlike foul even if you didn't want to hit him. Rivero defensive foul on Kendrick Nunn 1 minute before the end of 3rd quarter in his effort to grab an offensive rebound, NOT GIVEN Start of 4th Quarter, defensive foul from WEBB WAS NOT GIVEN TO Kalaitzakis!!! 8 second violation from Brown to pass the half court???? foul on Nunn by Bartolomeo in half court when he got a difficult basket after that, NOT GIVEN For instance...How this guy knows if there was a contact with Lessort's hands in Bartolomeos steal? HOW? How he can say for sure there was not a referee error there?!?!?! This is what makes me mad. I hope Panathinaikos sue you for slandering our worth, our win and our dignity as an organization. You indirectly accuse Panathinaikos that paid the referees to have their favor when you say that the majority of errors are in favor of Panathinaikos. You dishonor our achievement and the way that happened! YOU ARE LYING when you are saying that Panathinaikos had the more errors in his favor!!! YOU ARE LYING! I can do that for all the match if you want...I watched 3 times the game...THERE IS NO WAY Maccabi have more referee errors against them!
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 20 күн бұрын
They are Lying BIG TIME They made so many errors in this game. Like Nunns Blocks TWICE. Ridiculous Foul Calls 🤡
@cemskara
@cemskara 20 күн бұрын
Congrats both Pana and Maccabi. As a Fener fan, i really know very well coach Ataman and this is a feature of his game plan. His guards drives always into the paint and also he has lessort who is a monster. I dont like coach Ergin Ataman but i have to respect him and Pana fans. They were great and deserved to win.
@DaredeviIGR
@DaredeviIGR 20 күн бұрын
Good luck today! If I am being honest, it is in our favor Barca and Monaco advance because Berlin will become 90% 'green', but if Fener, Oly make it the F4 will be insane with these fans in one court.
@cemskara
@cemskara 20 күн бұрын
@@DaredeviIGR Thank you very much brother! Its absolutely true. If Oly and Fener goes to the Berlin then i cant imagine the atmosphere. Good luck!
@ariksan
@ariksan 20 күн бұрын
Don't think Ataman has game plans tbh, he was lucky that Baldwin got injured in game 2. Otherwise this series would have ended 3:1 for Maccabil.
@cemskara
@cemskara 20 күн бұрын
@@ariksan Actually i was talking the reason of free throw count. Didnt want to mention anything about all game plan. Regards 🤘🏾
@user-ll4hv8si3l
@user-ll4hv8si3l 20 күн бұрын
Ataman got 30k penalty for pointing out bad calls in the first game...Giannakopoulos was punished with the same amount of money for commenting officiating mistakes on his instagram account...will Kattash get punished or the rules are applied only against Panathinaikos?
@soik1401
@soik1401 20 күн бұрын
The only calls which decided the game in this series were from game 1.
@gloup81
@gloup81 19 күн бұрын
these "bad calls" proved that Ataman is unaware of the game's rules.
@user-ou7ml1jd4j
@user-ou7ml1jd4j 20 күн бұрын
Listen, I'm an Israeli Maccabi fan, many will think that I think the referees deprived us, but my conclusion from the game is that these referees are simply not good. There were many fouls that I think were not whistled for Maccabi but also many whistles such as Coulson's steps that were not whistled in favor of Pau
@user-ou7ml1jd4j
@user-ou7ml1jd4j 20 күн бұрын
And I will add and say that if these referees judge one of the games in the Final Four, it will be a great shame for the Euroleague, these referees
@sainigahunia4625
@sainigahunia4625 20 күн бұрын
Did you remember what happened at Game 3? If you did not remember,you would show it. Panathinaikos played against referees and Maccabi.
@dimipap130
@dimipap130 20 күн бұрын
There were more than two errors against Panathinaikos, including a goal foul on Lessort he never mentions. A couple of questions for you guys at BasketNews; why are you not looking at the whole series and only this game? Also, why don't you ask a neutral referee about his opinion on this game and not a person associated with Israel and Maccabi? It's a poor attempt to take away from Panathinaiko's victory, especially when looking at the whole series. It seems like Israeli propaganda has no limits.
@BasketNews_com
@BasketNews_com 20 күн бұрын
Maybe you missed the earlier episodes on other games of this series, all available on basketnews.com or you can find the previews like this on our channel 🙌
@derbymotogp
@derbymotogp 20 күн бұрын
@@BasketNews_com yeah, right xD Your team lost while having 3 extra players, accept it and go on.
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
cause you want you to pay to see the whole episode,its their late tactic and its disgusting
@gloup81
@gloup81 19 күн бұрын
througout the whole series, there was 1 serious mistake against panathinaikos, the out-of-bounds. The fuss on game 1 was a pure display of clownery by panathinaikos organisation as a whole.
@marioskolas8899
@marioskolas8899 20 күн бұрын
What about Mitoglou's offensive foul on webb in second quarter that it was defensive foul??? Maybe some fouls that was given to panathinaikos wasn't actually but there was errors both ways all the series.Maccabi players were playing hard defense all the series and when pana did it in the second halftime they complained about the referee calls.
@Fridas13
@Fridas13 20 күн бұрын
They called offensive foul on the next play to correct that one.
@nedimnedretshukri5242
@nedimnedretshukri5242 20 күн бұрын
Please first google Todd Warnick. He is not a neutral person.He has strong ties with Israel and Israel basketball. If you make such a youtube video assessing referee impact you are expected to keep neutrality with neutral commentators.Come on.He is an Israel citizen with a lot of background in Israel including education and work experiences there.Prior to this game almost a political conflict was emerging and an in some context maybe already emerged. He can not be the right person for referee commentary in this game
@georgepol3758
@georgepol3758 19 күн бұрын
They foul Lessort because he misses. He does miss as expected. They still lose the game. Then they blame the loss on the free throughs that he MISSED. Impeccable logic.
@SpyrosKos10
@SpyrosKos10 20 күн бұрын
Tell mister ex ref to put some glasses, in the 4thQ Nunn drive he was tackled, no call, hit with elbow from brown, no call, and many others. For the first time refs called most of the hits maccabi players repeatedly do (all the year play the same dirty way), and for some insane reason pao was benefited, ok good, have a nice day....
@jimmybuckets713
@jimmybuckets713 20 күн бұрын
Άλλος ένας βλάκας αντί να είσαι φιλότιμος που έστω για ένα παιχνίδι η διαιτητές ήταν λίγο πιο προς Παναθηναϊκου με τα calls που έκαναν, εσεί κάθεσε και γκρινιάζεις
@leonidase365
@leonidase365 20 күн бұрын
In the first and third game all mistakes was against panathinaikos. What this guy talks about?😅
@VeRDeGR
@VeRDeGR 20 күн бұрын
I wish only this type of calls were against Panathinaikos in Game 1 while having 2 calls (as you said) in favor of Panathinaikos (goaltending and traveling).. 🤷 The free throws argument is silly. Maccabi tried to send to free throws Lessor in order to avoid the buckets. It was a strategic decision by Maccabi. They knew Panathinaikos except Nunn and Sloukas are bad free throwing team Still waiting to see the errors in favor of Panathinaikos... Where are they?
@GreekSneakCollector
@GreekSneakCollector 20 күн бұрын
Τα πράγματα είναι απλά: Βουντού βουντού και πράσινη μαγεία!!
@bouzoukistudent8180
@bouzoukistudent8180 20 күн бұрын
they used ritus advise to foul the bigs , and that came back topunish them. thank you ritus !
@user-zm7cd2vh9s
@user-zm7cd2vh9s 20 күн бұрын
As a maccabi fans i admit maccabi didn't played well and pao won not because of the referees. Pao is a strong team and if we take out all the unnecessary things that have been said by pao there's a mutual respect between the teams. Im really proud of maccabi this season, the fans are a huge part of the club and wade Baldwin as well and they gave their heart's
@Sv-fj7re
@Sv-fj7re 20 күн бұрын
Basketnews is getting more and more disappointing every episode👎👎👎
@user-ll4hv8si3l
@user-ll4hv8si3l 20 күн бұрын
basketnews represents the dark years of Jordi Bertomeu era...They are vastly supported by Greeks (most of their subscribers are greek) and they are constantly attacking Panathinaikos... PS: Τhe 80% of euroleague tv subscriptions come from greece, and still all the euroleague system (including paid promotion) are fighting greek teams and especially panathinaikos...
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
also they are too aggressive with BN+ now so it is only getting worse to watch em atm
@panosb3545
@panosb3545 20 күн бұрын
If you want people to keep supporting you, you must stop posting inaccuracies. Do not ridicule yourself
@bloodlinegate7
@bloodlinegate7 20 күн бұрын
People = Vazeloi?
@panosb3545
@panosb3545 20 күн бұрын
@@bloodlinegate7 FYI, I am gavros
@machinakos
@machinakos 20 күн бұрын
Are you serious? after such a victory you come out with a referee to discuss the calls? Maccabi scored the 4Q, TWO points in seven minutes. Didnt see bringing up any referees to discuss calls when they were against PAO. We get you dont like PAO but a little professionalism would be nice
@bonclay4912
@bonclay4912 20 күн бұрын
Είχε φέρει διαιτητή και στα προηγούμενα παιχνίδια και είχε πει πως ο Παναθηναϊκός έχει δίκιο
@jimmybuckets713
@jimmybuckets713 20 күн бұрын
Α είσαι πολύ μαλακας κιόλας, το ότι το έκαναν μετά από κάθε παιχνίδι απλά άς κάνουμε σαν να μην έγινε ε
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
they did videos after every match man
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 20 күн бұрын
Well, each team complained about the officiating after the games they thought that they were robbed. Games 1 and 3 it was Panathinaikos, and game 5 it was Maccabi. I don't see why the players and coach of Maccabi would complain about the officiating in the previous games of the series. I mean, what was there to complain about?
@nikoskyprizlian1718
@nikoskyprizlian1718 20 күн бұрын
Στο 1 και τρίτο τι υπήρχε που παραπονέθηκε ο ΠΑΟ είναι το σωστό ερώτημα..η Μακάμπι αδικήθηκε όλη την σειρά απλά άλλαζε το 60-40 σε 70-30.. δεν πήρε ούτε σε ένα παιχνίδι το 50-50
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 20 күн бұрын
@@nikoskyprizlian1718 καλά εσύ έχεις γίνει γραφικός κατά τη διάρκεια της σειράς με τα κομπλεξικα σχόλια σου κατά του ΠΑΟ. Get a life dude
@Booooombaa84
@Booooombaa84 20 күн бұрын
Βγάλει τα κόκκινα γυαλιά σου γιατί σήμερα θα έχει πραγματικό πόνο και κλάμα
@bloodlinegate7
@bloodlinegate7 20 күн бұрын
So basically Panathinaikos is complaining for the games that they lost, how convenient.
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 20 күн бұрын
@@bloodlinegate7 I'm pretty sure that they didn't just complain, but they showed exactly which calls they were talking about. If you think that they were wrong about these calls, or If you think that the same happened in games 2 and 4 in favor of PAO, you're free to show us these unjust calls. Don't make baseless comments here and there just because you support Olympiakos.
@vasilisntousis543
@vasilisntousis543 20 күн бұрын
Todd Warnick Former Basketball referee coach, mentor, instructor and evaluator at Israel Basketball Federation, FIBA and Euroleague. "Not Biased at all" Of course unfortunately Mr Todd, the better team advanced and that's unfortunate for you. Berlin would be green:)
@Booooombaa84
@Booooombaa84 20 күн бұрын
There was a defensive foul on Mitoglou, which the refs turned it to jump-all. Two or three times, they fouled Lessort really hard without calling unsportsmanlike foul. They called a defensive foul on Juancho without even touching Rivero. In general, Maccabi played more physically than Pana, and for the first time in this series, refs tried to call whatever they were able to see.
@michaelmanolioudis3967
@michaelmanolioudis3967 20 күн бұрын
There is a difference though when complaining about referees, which is crucial when talking about them. Game 1 and game 3 that Panathinaikos has serious complains and that's why made official statements, was ended by 2 points difference, meaning that referee calls can greatly change the winner. Maccabi yesterday lost with 10 points, while Pana missed 14 free throws, meaning it was in reality a 15+ point game difference. Saying that a 15+ game difference was decided by referees, when in game1 and game3, which ended up in 2 points everything was going just fine in refereeing for Katash (which we truly respect as former amazing player and coach in us) and Maccabi fans is completely biased and out of reality.
@gloup81
@gloup81 19 күн бұрын
now tell us about the great panathinaikos defence, and how they NEVER foul
@michaelmanolioudis3967
@michaelmanolioudis3967 19 күн бұрын
@@gloup81 i guess you were happy when Baldwin was getting free throws because Sloukas was coughing
@gloup81
@gloup81 19 күн бұрын
@@michaelmanolioudis3967 he was not coughing, he's a bad defensive player, with horrible hand positioning and Baldwin took advantage of it. There are fouls you commit, and there are fouls the attacker earn. Mike James built his whole career on such fouls.
@clockworkfrustration
@clockworkfrustration 20 күн бұрын
This is borderline clickbait. I know that being controversial brings views, especially since a lot of the subscribers are Greek, but you don't have to employ such tactics. First of all, it is ridiculous for Maccabi to complain about free throws since they intentionally played hack-a-Lessort. Secondly, we should be looking at the whole picture of the series and lastly Maccabi should not be participating in the Euroleague in the first place.
@kostasspanos9148
@kostasspanos9148 20 күн бұрын
Please see all the games of PAO in the season.We earn what we earn with honor against referees.We are going to Berlin to win everyone!!!!PANATHINAIKOS IS BACK AND IS HERE TO STAY . You have to get used to it!!!!
@giannisv.4472
@giannisv.4472 20 күн бұрын
A former referee and referee coach.. that's why nowadays refs are so bad if he's the one teaching them!
@derbymotogp
@derbymotogp 20 күн бұрын
With average refereeing the series should end at 3-1,so the clown referees should shut their mouth and bow.
@pivivis11
@pivivis11 20 күн бұрын
He claims that out of the 12 errors , only 2 were to the benefit of Macabi, and he clearly mentions which two, the travelling call that the refs missed and the basket interference by Nebo. So what about the 10 remaining errors that were supposedly to the benefit of PAO? He did not even mention one, he should be more specific, either specify those 10 errors or shut up mister...
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
cause you have to pay basketnews to see the whole episode.its their marketingfor the last month and its very unfair to fans.
@Captain_Of_Rage_0
@Captain_Of_Rage_0 20 күн бұрын
Bro PAO is in final four and they keep hating for views I like it .
@spyrosl9566
@spyrosl9566 Күн бұрын
Link to game 3 referee analysis? cant find it.. Was this video your idea or they called directly from Tel-Aviv??
@medikos
@medikos 20 күн бұрын
you discovered the Euroleague refereeing in 2024 ! congrats ! what about past years ?
@Kokos1319
@Kokos1319 19 күн бұрын
I'm gonna check the rest of the videos to see what you said for the 1st and 3rd game. I'm really curious...
@samitsas
@samitsas 20 күн бұрын
The fact that we had game 5 is due to refs help on Maccabi. Maccabi players in game 5 played WWE and UFC and not basketball.
@Nunn-oi7di
@Nunn-oi7di 20 күн бұрын
When panathinaikos will be benefit from Euroleague referees in the next 10 (at least) years then we will give the chance to talk about officiating in Euroleague 😘
@kaltsohe
@kaltsohe 19 күн бұрын
There are at least 3 unsportanlike fouls against Lessort.. With 50-50 referrees we would talk for a 3-0 series.
@getonthetrain2909
@getonthetrain2909 20 күн бұрын
Fouls were 17-23.Only 6 more for Maccabi is a big compliment they way they wanted to foul. Even Antetokoumpo played 2 min and hit 4 frees on purpose because they didnt want to get dunked by him or Lessort that would make Oaka erupt. Refs tried to help Maccabi as always with the team that tries to make 60 fouls. No clear flagrant calls on Lessort trying to dunk or Brown elbowing Grant. Wth? Nada. Because it was essential Maccabi strategy, them calling after the ft difference is pretty hypocrite. PS. Lessort when taking the ball face to the rim at 4 meters is a beast. Cant be stopped on his way in.
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 20 күн бұрын
Kendrick Nunn had TWO CLEAR BLOCKS on the Maccabi Bigs (embarrassing Blocks btw 😅) & the refs called them as Fouls 🤡🤣
@bouzoukistudent8180
@bouzoukistudent8180 20 күн бұрын
Also i am expecting some to comment on this .The continuing flopping of makabis players has put to shame the navaro era players and the current real madrid ones . These guys the whole series (and regural season ) they got electrefied shocks by the touch of a mosquito . So lame . Next time you host host dibartolomeo give him the master flopper award !
@bonziwells1029
@bonziwells1029 20 күн бұрын
the game 1 ref was caught stealing and was allowed to referee game1 he also gave maccabi 6 free throws that never happened, tha same ref who appears in this video confirmed it,nebo in game 3 was clearly out of bounds (confirmed again)unless the laws of gravity do not apply to nebo,gaslighting wont change the fact that the series should never make it to game 5,now about game 5,if you think that fouling a bad free throw shooter like lesort gives pao an advantage you dont like logic or gravity he missed 10 of them which translates to 5 possesions at least,shaq drummond deandre jordan used to shoot 20 free throws per game ON PURPOSE
@Gothic2Knight
@Gothic2Knight 20 күн бұрын
Is there the same analysis for games 1 & 3??
@jimmybuckets713
@jimmybuckets713 20 күн бұрын
Yes
@BasketNews_com
@BasketNews_com 20 күн бұрын
In fact, yes there is! Check out basketnews.com & you’ll find them there or look for public previews on this channel, links are there 🙌
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
yeah you just have to pay to see the full video
@ChristopherHThomas
@ChristopherHThomas 20 күн бұрын
I am a both PAO and Maccabi supporter !!! I like both teams and the way they play and have been playing since the 70's - 80s. Both are great organizations that deserve respect above all. According to my opinion and after watching all 5 playoff games..... PAO should have advanced by 3-1 instead of 3-2.
@zarko_zarko
@zarko_zarko 20 күн бұрын
me anomalous we dont speak,ante geia!
@balomenos86
@balomenos86 19 күн бұрын
Why are u complaining???? U were the ones saying after game 3 that no one should complain about refs. Suddenly u changed ur minds when it was against u??
@spyz1448
@spyz1448 20 күн бұрын
Better find a way of stoping Nunn' s 3-pointers...And I' m not even a PAO fan.When will Maccabi' s officials learn, of so many American players, that most of them don' t play defence...(?)They should start of creating a new team with more Europeans.
@michalistsakas4840
@michalistsakas4840 20 күн бұрын
Maccabi's only defensive tactic other than good zone, was to foul under the basket. They did it all games, this time they got punished as they should have been on previous games, PAO was clean defensively and Nuun did his thing in offence. Not sure what you experts are on about? Maccabi got destroyed last quarter on every match, because of the fouls that they do under the basket. A team that cannot defend under the basket is not a good team...
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 20 күн бұрын
They took Rytis advice…LOL And were punished dearly for it 😃
@Biodyn3758
@Biodyn3758 20 күн бұрын
How do you say ‘ go screw yourself’ in Greek? Because thats what they would say to maccabi claims.
@electrolina1
@electrolina1 20 күн бұрын
Ade gamisu!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@MrDejasin07
@MrDejasin07 19 күн бұрын
After listening this I ve just googled this ref guy name with word 'jewish' and results did not surprise me... LOL
@zottirgen
@zottirgen 19 күн бұрын
The question is, would they air this video if Maccabi had qualified and the guest would talk about Maccabi being "protected" by the calls? We all know the answer, right? Expect a similar one about Monaco soon
@user-ug4bb3iv7g
@user-ug4bb3iv7g 20 күн бұрын
Tell us please..which call wasn't t right?? Tell us please
@Dorlevi434
@Dorlevi434 20 күн бұрын
Technical fouls 4 quarter
@BasketNews_com
@BasketNews_com 20 күн бұрын
Find the full episode on basketnews.com
@panagioths0
@panagioths0 20 күн бұрын
​@@BasketNews_comBut when the macabbi player was standing on the line in front of the reff everything was alright in your opinion ? When the reffs gave 2 rediculus 3 point fouls in a crucial moment at the 1st game everything was alright ah ? When they didnt give a clear lessorts bucket and they decided to give jumpball with no reason everything was also alright ? When they gave 14 seconds at macabbi again with no reason let me guess...everything was fine according to you. You are rediculus. Just rediculus
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
you got to pay to find sorry,welcome to basketnews in 2024.
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
@@panagioths0 you have to pay to find out sorry,cause thats the basketnews of 2024.they care about money,not showing everything ot the fans
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
i dont undestand why you only show the wrongs of one team in the video and hide the other teams error behind paid content,thats controvesial to say the least and really cheap to the fans.specialy the macabbi fans in this case
@mariatulip8186
@mariatulip8186 19 күн бұрын
I am Panathinaikos and i was not at all happy about the qualification with the noise for refereeing. I have lived in 6 Euroleagues and Panathinaikos had a big problem with the referees, even Zeliko Obradovic was not respected by the referees when he was a Coach. Now i hear that Panathinaikos is favored by the referees in the Euroleague.
@Begnis
@Begnis 20 күн бұрын
Having teams to like and teams to dislike is normal.. but this youtube channel hating too much.. we get it you guys dont like Panathinaikos but please dont embarrass yourself with this type of content...
@takisarapakis6843
@takisarapakis6843 18 күн бұрын
Thank you guys for exposing Panathinaikos' positive handling from the refs this year to the European crowd. They still dont play good basketball, they are allowed to play dirty on defence and maintain good passive numbers despite their bad defenders (ie sloukas grigonis mitoglou pessort), and they disrespect and threaten the organisation to aid them towards the final 4 and the title.
@miralex67
@miralex67 20 күн бұрын
If that was against pao all of them would cry yelling euroleague Mafia. Now it's just everything fair
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
welcome to greek basketball fans lol.
@kwstisgk
@kwstisgk 20 күн бұрын
You saw only 2 for maccabi ? Two bad non calls ? I saw the 8” violation , the first unsportsmanlike foul on lessort ( cleveland did not let him score extended holding down his hands ) 2 very soft fouls by even touching players one on kalaitzakis and one on papetrou on cohen by just touching not holding not pushing plus the two non calls you mentioned ! The referees were playing 60-40 and thats fair for home game !
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 20 күн бұрын
Kendrick Nunn had TWO CLEAR BLOCKS on the Maccabi Bigs (embarrassing Blocks btw 😅) & the refs called them as Fouls 🤡🤣
@chaniaguideluxvillas3094
@chaniaguideluxvillas3094 20 күн бұрын
Who are these to malako stupid guys who describe the refferees. Both say about about many reffery benefits to panathinaikos but they only show us two benefits for Macabi. Thank you guys.. We believe you... Believe it... Belove you
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 20 күн бұрын
They are Lying!
@FractalFailure
@FractalFailure 16 күн бұрын
What do you have to say about referees decisions on Game and Game 3? Fun fact: Referees calls on G1 and G3, decided winner, while these you are showing here, did not.
@PongoTheGreat
@PongoTheGreat 20 күн бұрын
Hahaha obviously this gentleman didn't watch the game at all !
@zachpapp1889
@zachpapp1889 20 күн бұрын
The Euroleague took 2 referees Difallah and Belosevic who had made the mistake of calling the Olympiacos game and placed them in Panathinaikos- macabi to be in 2 games which has never happened before.Also i don't remember before to give 3 technical fouls in game 5.
@mikerbns1671
@mikerbns1671 20 күн бұрын
Excellent analysis of the complaints,inconsequential errors against Panathinaikos because Maccabi didn’t score and unfortunately the majority of the errors didn’t benefit Maccabi!Great job again mr moron 👏🏻
@s.piko13
@s.piko13 20 күн бұрын
The technical foul on dibartelomeo for flopping was one of the craziest calls I’ve ever seen
@derbymotogp
@derbymotogp 20 күн бұрын
He didnt flop again , so that was a good call. Clowns like dibartolomeo should be shut down.
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
yeah,ref waited to see if the drive will go in,then he gave it,it was terrible lol
@s.piko13
@s.piko13 19 күн бұрын
@@dalaraz1 but why did he call it? Can’t the ref understand that dibartelomeo is 183 and Lessort is 200 and strong as fck?? I think it also was a moving screen but the point is that dibartelomeo got bodied by Lessort and there was absolutely no flopping 😂😂
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
@@s.piko13 i have no idea why he did it that way to be honest,it was very weird
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 20 күн бұрын
Maccabi took Rytis advice to Foul Hack-A-Shaq Style on the Pana Players & paid for it dearly… Maybe not the best advice from our friend who also get all his insane predictions wrong every single time 😅 Thanks Rytis! Please bet against us Malaka 😃👌🏻
@boufidisstavros6498
@boufidisstavros6498 20 күн бұрын
BRAVO THE REFEREES ☘☘
@elvincohen6027
@elvincohen6027 20 күн бұрын
You can add a 3p foul on Web in 1st qt (Katsh stormed on the referees and almost got tech) and a flop (i think made by Nunn) in 3rd qt
@kostaselais1594
@kostaselais1594 20 күн бұрын
Οι διαιτητές επαιξαν 50\50 χτες.1,2 λαθος σφηριγματα πηραν εκατέρωθεν.η διαφορα στις βολες ειναι τα εσκεμμένα φαουλ που εκαναν στο λεσορ
@bloodlinegate7
@bloodlinegate7 20 күн бұрын
Συνήθως έτσι πάει, νικάμε 50/50, χανουμε μόνο από διαιτησία.
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
​@@bloodlinegate7 xaxaxa
@Nunn-oi7di
@Nunn-oi7di 20 күн бұрын
@basketNews asked the ex chief referee of Euroleague to talk about referees mistakes against Maccabi 🤡 The man that was referees chief under Bertomeu Era and slautered and abused panathinaikos every time the last 10 years!!! Thats embarrassing!!!!!! 🤮
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
he said pao was right to complain in the last 3 episode,you prolly just didnt see em i guess
@lamprosmarinakis6062
@lamprosmarinakis6062 20 күн бұрын
I don’t see the point of this video. Macabbi plays physical all series. It would have been 3-0 with 50-50 calls in the first and third match. Stop provocating nonsense. PAO won the series with big shots and big time players, respect them.
@johnspathopoulos1432
@johnspathopoulos1432 20 күн бұрын
I thought you had a basketball channel!
@Leon4ever
@Leon4ever 19 күн бұрын
classical ataman tactics. when he's not capable to change the game on the court, he use outside. he talked about referees after the first loss and basically he manipulated the officiates and euroleague. he and his community(galatasaray) use this everywhere and unfortunately they got success about that almost every time. also he is so famous about using cathine in his teams too. zero ethics.
@morfonios9232
@morfonios9232 20 күн бұрын
You should make a video for olympiakos refs 20 years now he is n1 in free throws
@omeraltuner1976
@omeraltuner1976 20 күн бұрын
When playoffs are 2:2 always the home team win the final match. We can see clearly why.
@siloiplo3731
@siloiplo3731 20 күн бұрын
We really cannot judge this video since only a small portion has been made available. Any comments are irrelevant.
@Sonic-di9pj
@Sonic-di9pj 20 күн бұрын
The video will be judged on what it says, not on what it implies. All comments here are relevant as they are a response to this specific clip/video. Any comments on the full interview will be relevant for that video.
@siloiplo3731
@siloiplo3731 20 күн бұрын
​@@Sonic-di9pjIts just a teaser foo
@Sonic-di9pj
@Sonic-di9pj 20 күн бұрын
@siloiplo3731 make sure to look at the mirrors as you are backpedaling
@nikosaslanidis8958
@nikosaslanidis8958 20 күн бұрын
“Trakis” constant crying worked I guess. The refs were like ok let’s help them coz they will go ballistic if they miss the final four for a 13th year in a row
@konstantinosapostolidis6372
@konstantinosapostolidis6372 20 күн бұрын
I didn't see any analyzing episode about panathinaikos complaints in the other 4 games.maybe katas wanted to play the hole series as a restling team...we won because we made big shots in the fourth quarter and even the free throws didn't make the diffirence on the final score...
@jimmybuckets713
@jimmybuckets713 20 күн бұрын
Έχει και για τα άλλα παιχνίδια analizes...
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
they made videos for all of them,you can watch em
@user-kq2wq3rl7n
@user-kq2wq3rl7n 20 күн бұрын
As a pao fan, the calls favored us in this game but it was the first time in the series that this happened, so I don't get Maccabi fans complain. Also we had 35 attempted free throws because they made leesort shoot 15.
@giorgiosmy4080
@giorgiosmy4080 20 күн бұрын
Υou are dreaming..
@jimmybuckets713
@jimmybuckets713 20 күн бұрын
Πάλι καλά που κάποιος είδε το παιχνίδι και με μάτια ανοιχτά σ' αυτην την comment section
@blackdog13
@blackdog13 20 күн бұрын
Omg you do feel pain, its not only rumor 😂❤
@gloup81
@gloup81 19 күн бұрын
Lesor's flopping issue must be addressed. Are referees so afraid of a spoiled cry baby that threatens anyone who doesn't make 100% errors in favour of panathinaikos?
@CODMadNuker
@CODMadNuker 20 күн бұрын
It’s so satisfying seeing Maccabi fans crying about referees! 😂😂😂
@stamatis4669
@stamatis4669 20 күн бұрын
How many fouls lessort didnt take? You only see 2 non calls for panathinaikos in a full psysical game? Come on man 🤪
@ignatiusontheloose7700
@ignatiusontheloose7700 20 күн бұрын
Euroleague is a joke! There is a reason for 19-0 record in game 5s of playoffs…
@user-sn2lj8kx3y
@user-sn2lj8kx3y 20 күн бұрын
To add these 2 Nebo/Colson in favour of MAC add the first foul on Mitoglou and the first foul on Juancho that were ridiculous nothing at all by the 🇫🇷🤡Ref - 4 FTs gift!! Riveiro at the first Q had travelling as Colson at a fastbrake but didnt call. First minutes that this guy gives Jump ball Mitoglou suffered a foul. To be fair refs didnt fouled Lesor at Clevelands dunk for 1 free throw. Dont mentioned the clear Unsportsmanlike foul on Lesort that Ataman had to take Video Check to change the call....
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 20 күн бұрын
Time to Punish Kattash & the spoiled child Maccabi 😃 Btw, Nunn & Bacchides are BOTH your Fathers! 👌🏻
@panagioths0
@panagioths0 20 күн бұрын
​​@BasketNews_com But when the macabbi player was standing on the line in front of the reff everything was alright in your opinion ? When the reffs gave 2 rediculus 3 point fouls in a crucial moment at the 1st game everything was alright ah ? When they didnt give a clear lessorts bucket and they decided to give jumpball with no reason everything was also alright ? When they gave 14 seconds at macabbi again with no reason let me guess...everything was fine according to you. You are rediculus. Just rediculus
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
they made videos about this and they said pao was right to complain,better go see em
@truthhearer6323
@truthhearer6323 19 күн бұрын
Let's keep it real, refs were 10 times more hostile towards Fener against Monaco than they were against PAO. PAO really exaggerated in a silly and unsportsmanlike way and in game 5 they definitely had the benefit. Plus come on, your opponent is a 7th seed, doesn't have homecourt and their best player, you benefit from the refs in game 5 and still cry? You act like little boys sometimes, act like men.
@ubecomewhatuthinkabout
@ubecomewhatuthinkabout 19 күн бұрын
Hopefully this is a retired referee. He speaks about dozens of errors benefiting Panathinaikos but you only show two plays with errors benefiting Maccabi. This is a joke. And it is obvious that Maccabi’s strategy during the series was in every game to make fouls for almost 50% of the 2point total attempts of Pana with the chance to receive 1/2 or 0/2 points instead of 2 clear points. Lessort was defended so many times in the limits of unsportsmanlike. 123 FT ( 66.6% average scored FT) for Pana and 78 FT (75.62% average scored FT) for Maccabi. This means 82 points for Pana and 60 points for Maccabi. Which means 4.4 points FT points difference per game. So, if there is any cell of common sense in your little brains, out these series Pana’s benefit was 4.4 points but Maccabi’s benefit was shutting down the rhythm inside the racket in all fives games for Pana. And the points they would have received without doing all these fouls would be much more than 4.4 points per game. Great strategy from Maccabi. But please. Stop talking about benefits in this basketball channel. You are turning yourselves into comedy channel. Amatuers!
@ALXM1
@ALXM1 20 күн бұрын
There should have never been a game 5 to start with but conveniently he left that part out and decided to talk about FT. Also, they decided to constantly foul Lessort. You foul, foul gets called. What do you expect?
@yanniskolovos6908
@yanniskolovos6908 20 күн бұрын
If there were dozen of errors and u shiw only the ones in maccabis favor that were obvious without even the need of replay for a normal fan show us the so obvious errors in favour of pao. I dont understand why u pretend abd try to protect the corruption behind euroleague controversial referees. Mistakes may happen since the refs are human but when you dont see what everyone else does, when the ref with proper angle is being corrected by the one who cant see clear , when they check on replay and still make wrong decision these are cases that show who is getting boosted by euroleague and who doesn't. This is pao 39th game this year if you take play by play all games i doubt you will find more than 3 games that pao had more wrong calls in his favor and still managed to reach f4 as 2nd. So cry more and go on
@derbrawlgott6325
@derbrawlgott6325 18 күн бұрын
If you always foul Lessort every time
@panozzzzz3344
@panozzzzz3344 20 күн бұрын
Υou showed Macab errors but you never showed Pana errors so...the whole video is lame ....
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 19 күн бұрын
yeah cause they have all referee episode behind a paywall,you have to pay them to see the whole episode sadly.its the start of their downfall
@kosk442
@kosk442 20 күн бұрын
Well IF they benefited us THANK GOD. Cause if the referees were right all series long pao would be up 3-0 or at least 3-1. There was no reason to even have a game yesterday. As Maccabi fans were saying all series long to us: STOP CRYING
@bloodlinegate7
@bloodlinegate7 20 күн бұрын
Καλά στη κλαψομουνίαση όντως δεν σας ξεπερνά κανένας με πρώτο πρώτο τον καρνάβαλο τον πρόεδρό σας.
@bloodlinegate7
@bloodlinegate7 20 күн бұрын
Nothing new here we all saw it. Also the highlight of the year should be the disgraceful middle finger of Panathinaikos president to the Maccabi fans.
@vasilissyrros4776
@vasilissyrros4776 18 күн бұрын
Είπε ο γαυρούλης!!😘😘😘
@ultrasgreen1349
@ultrasgreen1349 19 күн бұрын
How much did they payed you Todd??
@user-vp6zw8lp7q
@user-vp6zw8lp7q 20 күн бұрын
I find it very interesting that in the games maccabi won everyone in pao complained about the officiating, but in the games pao won I didn't hear from them.
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 20 күн бұрын
Feel free to share the unjust calls in favor of Panathinaikos in game 2 and 4 that PAO won then. Maccabi did that for game 5, but probably had nothing to say about the previous two games that they lost so...
@Sonic-di9pj
@Sonic-di9pj 20 күн бұрын
Thats because you did not pay attention. Panathinaikos complained on all 4 previous games regardless if they won or not. Next time best do your research before you comment and come across as ignorant.
@user-yd9rq9no6w
@user-yd9rq9no6w 20 күн бұрын
That's exactly what happened now...Just vice versa
@bloodlinegate7
@bloodlinegate7 20 күн бұрын
Because that is what they do in general everywhere, all their years, especially with the president they have now.
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 20 күн бұрын
@@bloodlinegate7 η ομάδα η οποία όταν έχανε τα πρωταθλήματα έφταιγε ο βαζελακοπουλος και όταν κέρδιζαν δεν έλεγαν τίποτα για διαιτησία δεν δικαιούται να λέει κάτι τέτοιο. Να είσαι αντικειμενικός και να μην τα βλέπεις όλα μονόπλευρα
@georgep7428
@georgep7428 20 күн бұрын
So? Maccabi shouldn't have accepted this referee trio they knew what it was coming.
@kostasnikolopoulos194
@kostasnikolopoulos194 20 күн бұрын
What a bunch of crap! The series should end 3-1 for pao. The refs did everything and beyond to push maccabi. On game 5 they intentionally fouled Lesort in every chance, with unsportsmanlike fouls that were never called. Cut the lies!
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