When EuroLeague Teams Defeated NBA Champions

People say NBA champions are world champions, but EuroLeague fans disagree. But can EuroLeague clubs compete with NBA teams?
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[@DKM_Sports]

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[@reivaldoaurelio4895]

Kobe Bryant have no chance winning against against Barcelona with Messi, Iniesta, and Xavi.

[@maximwannabepro3021]

fr fr. and Ramos and Pepe would brakes his ankles

[@JayAreManalo-ey4ic]

​@@maximwannabepro3021bruh they from madrid not barça

[@mattlai443]

the infamous uefalona, i know right

[@metalc0readd1ct]

@@mattlai443 yeah like rigged madrid, gotta love stealing titles like they do xD

[@sadhaan9563]

BROKElona​@@metalc0readd1ct

[@BBallRambles]

I love games featuring nba vs foreign teams. I hope they add more of these to their preseason

[@EuroHeroes]

To facilitate this, the NBA's pre-season games should start a bit earlier. European season usually start in September but the NBA's training camps start at the end of September.

[@sakimtornado]

stopped when they noticed the euro teams beating their all nba squad

[@ryanbaldrick4311]

We need a world club tournament year to year

[@futcomedia1719]

A world tournament with the NBA champion and the champions from each continent would be interesting. FIBA should help organize this competition.

[@kapkan6930]

@@sakimtornado DAMN

[@viticabo1524]

As a Football Club Barcelona fan, seeing Barcelona do well at basketball in 2008-2010 too is beautiful.

[@gingkasnapss]

What is guardiola doing in basketball

[@punsiri9157]

He taught Tiki Taka

[@Jbkeditz]

Same here as a Culer

[@editorindebt8410]

do u still like barca?

[@viticabo1524]

@@editorindebt8410 Of course, Culers cant just stop supporting the team.

[@ericraymondlim]

I am a lifelong Chicago Bulls fan, born and raised in Chicago in the 90s and seeing the dominating Jordan/Pippen teams. Continue to watch them to this day. Now I live in London, and my wife is from Barcelona. I went to an FC Barcelona basket game last year with my mom because we used to go to a lot of Bulls games growing up. I got so anxiety ridden because I felt like they were passing way too much. But in reality they were really really hunting for the best kind of shot. No heroball at all. Made it pretty obvious why the current Bulls 'my turn, your turn' with Lavine and DeRozan is failing. I'm quite sure that last years FC Barcelona with Mirotic would beat the last years' Bulls in a series. Being away from the US in general, you understand we are just raised with a ridiculous amount of entitled exceptionalism. It's such a gross look when the cacophony of sports media and former NBA players like Gilbert Arenas continue to talk about players like Jokic like he is a joke. I remember when Nikola Mirotic turned down a contract in Utah and Milwaukee to return to Barcelona. I was like, 'yes, I too would have taken less money to live in a way, way, way better city.' And so many people came down on me in comments about how America was the greatest yadda, yadda, yadda. It's ridiculous that even as somebody that has spent substantial time in all three aforementioned cities; trying to explain thing like worker and social rights, the choice of free healthcare, great infrastructure and public transportation, and pedestrian access just illicits a response of 'that's communism.'

[@VykintasGlodenis]

Respect to you. Thank you for a wonderful take and reflection.

[@Notmyname1593]

Funny how much the americans actually love communism. When you tell them of good things, they say communism. Also, considering how a lot of american internal politics reminds me of late 19th to early 20th century Europe that nurtured the communist idea, it seems they really want to bring about a revolution. Just weird.

[@matthewmartin7391]

Bro turned down a huge contract from Utah to play in Barcelona, yup bro is acoustic. I’m not even American 😭

[@NASASKA88]

Βrilliant comment sir.

[@briansearle6868]

Basket game? lol

[@adri5991]

Facts were spoken

[@lifeonthelake4367]

Most of the time America doesn't send all of its best players, so this is bit exaggerated. I understand the kid is trying to make content.

[@shellamariepalis2059]

​@@lifeonthelake4367😂🤣🤡

[@duangc3280]

​​@@lifeonthelake4367😂😂 did you even watch the video no you guys didnt. Or you wouldnt say this nonsense. I think championship teams are pretty good teams no?

[@Tcol1703]

since the exhibition games have been a thing the nba teams have 90 win % so like @@duangc3280

[@Yung_Casanova_]

@@duangc3280 he’s not wrong the guy cherry pick which is funny because he called out jimmy for cherry picking

[@zer0freed0m]

As an American who initially sided with Jxmy, this video persuaded me that NBA champs aren't world champs. Thank you for your unbiased take with great statistics to back it up!

[@DjAkho]

unfortunately NA players cant even carry in NA

[@DiegoDiego28281]

How about a 7-game series

[@Yung_Casanova_]

If you watch his vid you would’ve remembered that the nba is 161-17 against international teams are wind rate is literally 90%💀 but he conveniently didn’t mention that, but they called him out for cherry picking💀

[@randomuruk7230]

@@Yung_Casanova_ Okay and? NBA teams are 4-4 against European teams since 2012? You missed the entire point proof the video.

[@Kujobcs]

@@randomuruk7230 even the rockets could win against the nuggets in a regular season.

[@jarub7641]

Calculating the theoretical amount of wins for a Euroleague in the NBA, you also have to consider that historically the Euroleague teams have mostly played NBA champions and not bad NBA teams, so their record would probably be even better

[@jal051]

Well, the European clubs were also amongst the best. That was a fair comparison, imo.

[@srensen3081]

@@jal051 yeah, but theres a big difference in winning against kobe's lakers and the worst team in the nba, you tell me which is harder

[@nationarmy2514]

i mean, half of the teams there were mentioned on the video were unknown to me. except a few.@@jal051

[@matthewmartin7391]

@@srensen3081 Depends there one off games, with an NBA team coming of about 130 game szn (regular and playoffs) so anything is possible . I feel like best of 7 would be the way to go to really understand the quality difference

[@spongeboblover7052]

Could say the same abt Europe

[@TEO-jo4xm]

*NBA and Euroleague Clashing would make such a fuss just like Copa Libertadores with UEFA Champions League* ...Gold tier entertainment there hope we'll live to see it happening!

[@oscarmarroquin4374]

only in europe. lol US dont care for euro league.

[@ryanbowman2123]

There’s a reason Luka Doncic from Slovenia said European league is harder then NBA

[@drestathagangsta8880]

Well duh. The NBA season (82 games) is more than twice as long as a Euroleague season (34 games). Do you realize how much more taxing that is on your body? NBA players aren't always gonna go hard every game. Meanwhile, Euroleague pllayers have to play hard every game because each win or loss means more. But look at how NBA teams turn it up when the playoffs start. They are on another level.

[@BontoBontoa]

@@drestathagangsta8880 bruh euroleague is Continental competition, every club in euroleague they have domestic competition in their country for example real madrid playing in acb league and copa del rey in they domestic competition

[@GarkKahn]

​@@drestathagangsta8880you do realize euroleague is a midweek tournament with each participant playing in their respective country in-between right?

[@TMPOUZI]

@@drestathagangsta8880 if you count Euroleague, Domestic league, Domestic Cup and Super Cup games, a final4 Euroleague team will have to play around the same amount of games as an NBA team. Also in Europe you don't have commercial time-outs every 5 minutes, so I don't know who's getting more physical at the end. Also in Euroleague all 5 players on the court move like hell, in the NBA it's too much iso and corner men. If you watch a play-off or final 4 game in Europe is like watching wrestling or brawls at times

[@ricardojuanlopeznaranjo6651]

Add 34 more Games of domestic competition, 1 to 4 of Domestic Cup and 1 or 2 of Supercup. At least 70 Games, 74 at most, only 8 less than in the NBA where 41 Games are played with now defense and with many players resting.

[@manuelmedinamartin6778]

Facts. You know the game. Europe is improving rapidly. Will be great to have that world championship competition created. Very proud of that Spanish team 💪

[@chimbachungas6678]

I hope to become a professional basketball player, and I wouldn't mind either going to the euro league or nba, both are nice

[@crvenipatlidzan]

what do you mean Europe is improving? You do realize that most of the best NBA players are European? NBA is just higher paid league, thats all there is to it. If the same amount of money was circulating in Europe, I believe 90% of Europeans would never even consider going to NBA. On the other hand, calling an NBA team a world champ just because NBA is the strognest league is really stupid. We can all agree that English premiere league is the best football league in the world, but for many years Spanish teams dominated in Champions league over all the English teams, even tho Spanish league is not the strongest. Who is to say that for example Real Madrid wouldn't win an NBA title if they were a part of NBA?

[@johnnytomahawk]

No they not lmao.

[@crvenipatlidzan]

@@johnnytomahawk yeah sorry, ur right, they are not. Just like the last 5 mvps were not European 😂

[@johnnytomahawk]

@@crvenipatlidzan doesn’t matter. Who won gold the last 4 olympics?

[@doraemon402]

The explanation is simple: the NBA isn't basketball, it has different rules. When you get used to NBA rules, things often go south when going back to playing the actual game.

[@_Av0kado]

or they're just bad

[@Dormazain]

Would you mind explaining how so? Like, what rules are so different that they make a "new game"? I don't know anything about basketball, but I don't assume they have something like lowered hoops there or anything, do they?

[@yolt6974]

Jesus loves you! Find Jesus, find peace. God bless!

[@AmbushRL.]

@@Dormazain Refs are way to lenient in the NBA.

[@sinaydos4754]

17:50 As a football fan, that is the unholiest thing I've ever seen someone do to a football crest

[@jal051]

I'm sure every Madrid and Barça supporters loved it 🤣

[@julzap29]

You're screaming into the void honestly. We all know that you're right, and Americans (who disagree) are probably too self-centered to have their minds changed on this. Hopefully we get to see more club matches between NBA and other leagues, and hopefully more leagues can develop talent and keep it to compete with NBA teams.

[@DabToTheFuture]

Well yea he technically right. But at the same time literal children play in the euroleaugue, once they turn 18 if they’re good enough they try to make it in the nba.

[@rajonskikrw]

@@DabToTheFuture in my opinion euroleague is better and more interesting becouse every time i try to watch nba,players just shooting almost only 3pointers and enemy team doesnt even try to defend. When in euroleague you cant even see the team who doesnt even try to defend

[@DabToTheFuture]

@@rajonskikrw Lorenzo Brown was on the all euro first team last year, he played 100 games in the nba over 5 seasons before playing euro league. His all euro team season he averaged 9 points and 5 assists. That’s worse than the wnba.

[@tepsicouch]

You realize the NBA teams play other leagues all the time? This dude just pointed out the only times they actually won and acts like it's a regular thing.

[@chocomint8261]

@@tepsicouchi think u missed the entire point which is that euroleague teams specifically have been able to compete with nba teams when they have played against each other, euroleague is far superior to teams from australia or argentina or other places whose teams have played against nba teams

[@iggyeegii9004]

It would be really intense, entertaining and controversial if every year nba's playoffs 4 team, euroleague's final 4 and some other nation's league's final 4 compete against each other for World Champions crown.

[@Islam.is.the.truth..]

That like English premier league teams playing Msl. Why would nba fans want to see that. Players who were bad in the nba like Shane larkin become super stars in the euro league

[@iggyeegii9004]

@@Islam.is.the.truth.. Bro there is 8 billion+ people living in this world. And millions of people love NBA and god knows amount of them definitely would watch that. You never know.

[@tysmothers]

It's bad for the NBA's brand. If the top NBA teams lose to international teams, it ruins the idea that the NBA is by far the best league which will cost them money

[@iggyeegii9004]

@@tysmothers exactly sir. They won't risk it. That's a bummer

[@Islam.is.the.truth..]

@@tysmothers that’s not why it’s not done. Just no one in america wants to see that

[@Oc10_]

what makes that win% stat kinda crazy to think of as well is that most of those games were against top NBA teams. They won an average of about 35-40% of their games against some of NBA's BEST teams. Think how their record would improve if they were to play every team in the NBA.

[@wasdwasdedsf]

what why would their record mprove if they play every team ...

[@yanivgonen]

Wow! Such an amazing video and editing. I enjoyed watching it 👍

[@rodrigomdlh5240]

Dallas mavs just lost against Real Madrid😅

[@irn4975]

Yeah, but Luka played 4 mins and no Kyrie

[@eclipsisss940]

​@@irn4975right

[@denpamori2076]

​@@irn4975lol Kyrie is a liability, mavs is stronger without Kyrie. And Real Madrid are bunch if nobodies. Better excuses??😂

[@BlauWeissRot_1965]

@@denpamori2076 Real has pretty good players also many former nba players.

[@sirkle3087]

Real madrid won 14 uefa champions leagues and a few club world cups, i havent seen any mls teams do that@@denpamori2076

[@KangMui296]

Spoke facts. Great video by this creator. CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED content. This video needs to be viral asap

[@Yung_Casanova_]

Umm no he cherry pick the hell out of this video💀 he forgot to mention that nba teams are 161-17 against international teams including fiba 💀 our win rate is literally 90%

[@madness3070]

@@Yung_Casanova_ uhm stfu and watch the video again

[@anteveic327]

@@Yung_Casanova_ This is about euroleague teams being competitive against NBA teams. NBA teams beating chinese and australian teams have nothing to do with his point.

[@dron7_shorts]

@@Yung_Casanova_keep crying

[@Yung_Casanova_]

@@dron7_shorts ya motha

[@charlestruppi7793]

Remember back in the 30’s when England refused to play in the soccer World Cup because how could anyone even consider themselves better? It was a foregone conclusion, so they said, that England would crush anyone, so why even go to the tournament. Then in 1950 they decided to grace the world with their presence and were summarily eliminated when they lost to the USA by a bunch of amateurs. So much for the English arrogance at the time.

[@RootGroves-hl8kt]

The apple doesnt fall far from the tree.

[@VykintasGlodenis]

THANK YOU for this video. Such a fresh breath of air. So well reasoned and factual. Thanks.

[@abw1317]

Id be curious to see what adjustments would be made by both teams in a 7 game series.

[@drazen4368]

in NBA or Euroleague rules/referees? that´s the real deal. BTW, probably the NBA team would win, but would be a nice tournament, not a friendly pre season game. Most of this games were on pre season for NBA, but on NBA rules aswell

[@abw1317]

@@drazen4368 I'd like to see Euroleague rules and refs. Really to see if the NBA team would win when at a disadvantage.

[@mtk4539]

Dude this is silly 😂 winning one game after they had played an entire playoffs with a 7 games series. Come on man, they not winning a 7 games series 😂

[@vladetastojanovic9406]

@@mtk4539 It's not silly. You do know only Nba . You dont even know nothing about Euroleageu . You hardly know what is Europe.

[@mtk4539]

@@vladetastojanovic9406 what a silly assumption to make. I’ve traveled many time to Europe to play rugby 😂 you know nothing about me to make this comment silly

[@insanejoe9042]

I really wanna see it get settled. The first time I saw the "World Champions" title being used by the NBA champs, I find it weird since there are no flags being represented there and there were only playing in a domestic league. About time to settle this. Best ball clubs in the world duke it out to see who's the best.

[@the_living_meme]

Yeah, no flags are being represented for each team, but technically that statement is partially incorrect as well. The NBA (as well as other American sporting leagues) do have our country's national anthem (The Star-Spangled Banner) be played before EVERY game, regardless of whether it's the postseason or not (and if the Toronto Raptors are playing, the Canadian anthem plays too). I personally find it to be an odd tradition that's dated back to WW1, because you never see this in Europe for the UEFA Champions League (You never hear the anthems of the UK, Spain, France, Italy, Germany, etc. in that event). I don't know how anthems are like in the EuroLeague but many Americans' arrogance and patriotism, especially for the NBA, just boggles my mind, AS AN AMERICAN MYSELF, quite a bit on many occasions.

[@thanos6628]

NBA is a show, Europe teams actually play basketball

[@samkneen]

not to mention that in 2022, the adelaide 36ers of the Australian NBL, who finished 7th in a 10 team league with a record of 10-18, beat the phoenix suns, who had just lost the nba finals with a record of 64-18, 134-124 in phoenix.

[@PowerGhostCOD]

It’s funny how Barcelona’s basketball team still has FC in the name

[@miguelsupertopzeramuitolegal]

Barcelona football club Sound about right -Barça’s direction

[@bencebarabas3555]

Their handball team does as well.

[@Qualipse]

And?

[@ouro2164]

@@Qualipse it's funny.

[@RavishmentBrutal]

IT"S FUNNY YO FCB = FOOTBALL THIS IS BCB@@Qualipse

[@skojuzija]

Also you calculated the games European clubs played vs mostly the top 10 clubs from NBA at the time of playing those games which means that if they can beat the top teams, they could surely beat worse NBA teams and that would improve their potential record in NBA even more

[@konstantinosmaragkakis585]

By the same logic, the nba teams can play with worse European teams to improve their record.

[@benezzy]

@@konstantinosmaragkakis585 You're completely missing the point. He was trying to make the point that the best eu teams could compete in the NBA, what you're saying is completely unrelated to that point.

[@nathancasey7712]

​@@konstantinosmaragkakis585That's already baked into their record cause the top NBA teams are playing the lower rated NBA teams. The euro league teams are purely hypothetical based on the win rate of playing top NBA teams since 2000 or whatever year he said

[@tepsicouch]

Winning one game means nothing. These are friendlies, and the NBA teams play friendlies against other leagues all the time, they almost never win. In the NBA, even the worst team in the league can beat the best team on any given night just because of the nature of the game. The vast majority of the time the NBA team wipes the floor with the others.

[@Nonotnope]

But they have a 18-78 record against NBA teams.

[@Abevann]

Excellent video, great background; the context is very important as well I absolutely agree with conclusions

[@mugiwaranoshanks2241]

Amazing !! Very complete video

[@Trapligo]

I think the only difference between the NBA and the Euro league is the defense is harder in Euro league and in the NBA it's easier to score plus the 3pt line is shorter

[@ClovzeLeFernandezMatthews]

U forget the fans. I bet many NBA teams would choke like hell if they have to play a Serbian team in front of Serbian fans continuously chanting, singing, and firing flares.

[@user-hj8mz3hp3s]

​@@ClovzeLeFernandezMatthewsthats a fact,they arent used to it

[@TMPOUZI]

The game is completely different, different format, different plays, different roles and positions

[@BatkoBrat]

@@TMPOUZI Exactly. The coaching and strategy is completely different also. Even the court dimensions are different and travel rules. It's not even comparable in my opinion. I prefer the dynamics of the European basketball myself. It's just my personal preference, i'm sure many people prefer the NBA.

[@TMPOUZI]

@@BatkoBrat You are correct. Only the highlights are worth watching from the nba nowadays. I really can't stand the excessive travelling going on, the non-existant defencive plays and the commercial breaks every 5 minutes or so

[@bynflew8552]

Everybody forgot the golden rule of "lets settle it on the court" lmao

[@Chief_kemosabe]

They can’t lol the two schedules don’t mesh at all

[@jal051]

@@Chief_kemosabe The don't mesh in soccer either, and yet they do it.

[@matthewmartin7391]

@@jal051 Bro really compared a 130 game season to a 50 game one

[@janthecoo4964]

@@matthewmartin7391 playing a soccer match is much more taxing on the body. you probably spend (way) more time on the field and need to do a lot more running. so it balances out.

[@matthewmartin7391]

@@janthecoo4964 not really, nba players play a maximum of 135 games a season if they go all the way and have to constantly be running and jumping in an explosive manner with barely any rest days most times being just a 1 day rest. Where in soccer you have up to a week for league games and midweek for domestic and continental competitions. So they have better recovery as for actual gameplay footballers have a more tedious cardiovascular challenge however in terms of frequency of injury the nba is a lot more injury prone as players are constantly jumping putting incredible pressure on there knees which is already bad with a tall persons high center of gravity compared to a footballers lower center of gravity and heightened lower body strength. It’s about the same interms of taxing body issues.

[@brahimyaboy]

great video, worth a subscription :)

[@-.warlock.-]

Facts....great job, great video!

[@edvardsrdic5642]

FIBA already has Intercontinetal Cup for year, but currently Europe is represented by Fiba Champions League title holder (which is together with Eurocup 2nd tier continetial competition in Europe) , USA by G league Champion, Latin America by Basketballl Champions League Americas champion, Africa by BAL champion and Asia by Chinese title holder. So NBA, Euroleague (for info, Euroleague and Eurocup from 2000 are not controlled by Fiba, if you did not know) and Australian-New Zealand NBL league champions are missing. To Expand this compettition would be great for basketball, however it clashes with offseason NBA and Euroleague schedule

[@MambaMonkeyOG]

It would be interesting to see that competition evolve to the "Club World Cup" idea that the video exposes, cause it currently does not represent that idea with the participants that competes

[@skojuzija]

​@@MambaMonkeyOGtrue. Its kinda strange that basketball doesnt have official international competition between the winners of top tier competitions while Handball has it and like, Europeans clubs beat everyone by 5 points minimum😂

[@MrRockleyend]

​@@skojuzijanot only handball, but football aswell.

[@skojuzija]

@@MrRockleyend I know but I said handball as an example because its not near the global popularity of basketball

[@justinsalamanca2033]

Would be cool to see if the NBA would one day change the NBA Cup or whatever they're doing starting this season instead into an international tournament where NBA teams could compete against the top international teams

[@byakugan641]

In Europe's Football, there is a UEFA Champions League which seek out the best team in Europe. Europe arguably has the best Football Leagues in the world but when they won the Champion's League, I havent seen anyone called that team who won a World Champ. They just said, "European Champion". They usually said World Champ only when they won the FIFA Club World Cup. So by saying NBA champs are World Champs. doesnt make sense to me. Or maybe I'm just stupid and doesnt have the right to think like this :v

[@slapmyfunkybass]

Nope, you’re completely right

[@artonio5887]

You're right, what's happening is just that basketball has been one of "america's sports" for a long time, and only now it's starting to become a more international sport. Football on the other hand has always been an international sport from the start. So many americans who watch the NBA aren't used to the concept of a real international sport, it's new concept for them, while to us it's just obvious.

[@jessetorres9502]

If there was a world championship game for basketball like FIFA has for soccer, your take would make sense

[@daseafrate2025]

​@jessetorres9502 whats soccer? You mean football?

[@AVOWIRENEWS]

It's always thrilling to witness the crossover of talent and competition between EuroLeague and NBA teams! Such matchups offer a unique blend of different basketball styles and strategies. It's fascinating to see how teams from different leagues adapt and perform against each other. The games where EuroLeague teams defeat NBA champions must be especially exciting, showcasing the high level of skill and competitiveness present in international basketball. It's a great reminder of how diverse and talented the global basketball community is! 🏀🌍✨

[@dubj3]

The reason Barcelona won is because they gave it everything they had and the lakers played it like an exhibition

[@dwayne4112]

With a player like kobe? Not an excuse 💀

[@emcb1390]

The time has come for a club-world-championship in Basketball!! Let's gooo

[@tumiskw]

its already there but no one takes it seriously, its called FIBA intercontinental cup.

[@PIANOPHUNGUY]

Shouldn't be played after the season in the summer. Must be played mid season. Now must also must not be played only in Europe. Too noisy. Now who is going to pay the NBA players? Ticket and t.v. rights?

[@fernandopinto4938]

I think he meant basketball clubs from other countries, not the national basketball team fo each country. @@tumiskw

[@student99bg]

Real Madrid would beat the Lakers under Euroleague rules

[@olamideolanrewaju6581]

I doubt this will ever happen. The NBA teams wouldn't want to risk losing their prestige as the best teams in the world. They are making too money and have too much clout. It is why 1v1 competitions don't happen in the NBA or the fact that stars don't play in the dunk contest.

[@RAZYRAZY1124]

Na man, these were preseason games. You guys fail to realize these are still humans, and have mentalities that don’t always equate to what the fans think. Euro guys can play for sure, but these games weren’t taken serious at all. You can use stats to back it up but stats don’t speak on effort, and the stigma the nba has always had shows the euros have more to prove coming here to play for and against the nba vs nba players playing a exhibition game against euros..

[@olamideolanrewaju6581]

@@RAZYRAZY1124 I agree that since its exhibition the NBA guys don’t try as hard as the Euro guys trying to make a statement. My point is there can’t be an actual high stakes competition cuz the NBA players have too much at stake if they lose compared to the Euro guys.

[@davidsoup1738]

@@RAZYRAZY1124 With this same argument I can say the European teams didn't take any of the games seriously either. What's your point?

[@RAZYRAZY1124]

@@davidsoup1738 no you can’t.. they don’t have the leverage to even consider doing that..

[@Draxplayzit2]

thats a lie if that were true they wouldnt allow there players to play in the olympics think man think why would they even have the international games then gotnrid of it but it was a thing

[@chromex21]

if there's something american nba tams definetly should learn about european clubs is to make good club badges. my god the nba badges look just like some kind of soda or snacks label

[@mariadanielalavia8877]

That's because in the NBA they're franchises, European teams are teams that have more and even more years of history, culture and tradition and many time (like Real or Barcelona) are owned by fans, or in the case of CSKA, was workers owned being the club of the central soviet army until 1992. And many Greek teams were fan owned until recently with over +60 years of history at least. For instance franchises move from cities, or just buy new rosters completely. And that makes them behave more like when your local supermarket chain puts a new store in another place and tries to reach a market by attracting customers.

[@matthewmartin7391]

The nba logos are fire wym they both are

[@KOTAPA]

The european club badges are frequently ridiculous.

[@punchdreadnought8101]

Some Europe cup (3rd tier) team having the absolute of a banger logo be like :

[@Manepavao]

Thank you for making this video my friend.

[@SkyIon]

Personally I think a yearly 3 game series between the Euro League champions and NBA champions should be organized

[@zeushualde5627]

they going to have world tournament via clubs around the world

[@estebanalmaraz2427]

That’s facts The first time I saw a video of a KZbinr I follow regarding the world champions argument being right I thought about the same example and actually you quote this video on yours, and I just couldn’t help myself to think about the champions league, this is just accurate facts

[@ImmZ69420]

There is already a "FIBA Club World Cup" and it's called the FIBA Intercontinental Cup. The only thing is that most EuroLeague teams don't participate, and the NBA sends the G-League champions to play in that cup. But still, we need the NBA and the EuroLeague to participate in this competition to prove that NBA teams aren't always world champions.

[@katatocdo7050]

What I got from this is that we need a World Series where the best team from each region goes off against each other. This will prove beneficial as regions can learn from other regions

[@cheeseburger5821]

This aged extremely well lmao

[@GarkKahn]

8:32 And THAT'S why nba or any other powerful team can't declare itself champion without playing. There were some cases of european teams (the clearly superior teams and favs to win it every year) getting beaten by teams from south america and others from mexico and africa put up a good fight making everyone doubt who would get the W Even if you'll win 99 out of 100 games as long as that single L exists you can't celebrate beforehand

[@israelbenitezjimenez533]

hermano argentino, no pudiste haberlo dicho mejor

[@johnnyvaldez3145]

Agreed, should be a world championship tournament. However a friend is still a friendly and can guarantee some of these guys just didn't want to get hurt.

[@Schenghen]

Really good video facts was spoken. At this point insert the club word club cup

[@victorpury]

Incredibly well put video. Amazingly done, congratulations!!

[@peng4828]

Very timely as Real Madrid just beat Dallas Mavericks yesterday. 😂 i mean yeah Luka didn’t play much and Dallas didn’t make the playoffs last season but these are NBA players who are “best of the best”. Great video, DKM. 😄

[@ondatra0057]

friendlies... who cares

[@russellkim8895]

Luka is literally one of their only good players and without Luka they're a subpar team.

[@kennyoffhenny]

Do you know what best of the best means? If they didn’t make the playoffs, they’re not the best of the best… NBA champions are the best of the best 😅

[@mahdisultan3546]

​@@kennyoffhennyHE USD THIS TERM, BECAUSE ACCORDING TO AMERICANS, THE PLAYERS PLAYING IN NBA ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST COMPARED TO OTHER WORLD LEAGUES, WHIC ISN'T TRUE

[@kennyoffhenny]

@@mahdisultan3546 you didn’t understand. Championship Euro league teams are better than some NBA teams, but NBA championship teams are usually better than championship euro league teams

[@OwenCamel]

I dont know why I just watched this. Im not even a basketball fan. But good video, have a like

[@console6010]

i do wish they commence a UEFA Champions league type of tournament where every top leagues/teams in basketball compete with each other but idk if thatll ever happen

[@mylescourtney3013]

Speaking the truth that others aren’t willing to hear! Pure facts

[@milanVlipovac]

Great video clip, thank you

[@henning14]

Good stuff👍🏽. A 🏀Club World Cup would be interesting. 2 things are on my mind. Which rule set and court size?

[@MimieThalie]

Les 2, comme ça ce serait équitable

[@bmontique]

The difference of these one off games is that they're played as exhibitions. I guarantee if you told Kobe that was the "World Championship" game- Lakers win by 20. It's a showcase game and they don't care who wins because there's nothing on the line.

[@funnytamilan]

Cry😂😂

[@TMPOUZI]

What happens if you told the same to Euroleague top players like Navaro or Spanoulis. Same thing. Get over it. Nowadays it would be 50-50 between top EL and NBA teams. Sometimes I watch Bucks and GSW games and I cringe on how bad they play. The Nuggets is a different story though. They could win the Euroleague

[@blve3759]

so he missed all of those shots on purpose? lame ass argument

[@drestathagangsta8880]

​@@TMPOUZINot exactly. Those players you mentioned would still be hyped up and trying to prove themselves against an NBA team. You're lying to yourself if you think NBA teams feel as if they have something to prove against them.

[@AK-hr9pm]

I would love to see something like the club world cup we see in soccer. Hopefully FIBA can organize something like that so that there is actual competitive basketball played between different continents.

[@nickmann1628]

FIBA actually already has a tournament like this. It's called Intercontinental Cup

[@jal051]

Would NBA clubs even attend if it's played under FIBA rules? It's easier to say you are world champion just because.

[@zerocontent9292]

@@jal051Finalists from ECF and WCF. Or top 2 team regular season team from both EC AND WC.

[@mralyx5996]

They do have such an event, but an interesting fact is that a competition like the Basketball World Cup is not even as important as the Olympics

[@jal051]

@@mralyx5996 In the US. In the rest of countries we care about them equally, if not more about the WC.

[@mgsports9561]

That's what happens when you mistakenly call yourself world champions when you are NBA champions, and call your "country" America when America is the continent and everyone knows it, except the gringos.

[@kjn3350]

It's interesting that only the Americans seem to call themselves world champions without playing other countries' teams. They do it in baseball as well (and that's the official title - world series), when the Japanese have actually proven themselves able to compete. The problem after that is that the Americans then seem insistent that playing any sort of world championship match would be insulting or it wouldn't match their season or something. I'm sorry, but you can't call yourselves the world champions without playing any other teams and then laugh off any offers to prove that you're world champions.

[@frontrowviews]

I knew we could rely on you making these arguments and spreading the word

[@itzhoussam251]

i just watched this video after the loss of the mavs against real madrid

[@konstantinosvlachakis1857]

mavericks best player played 10 minutes and the 2nd best didnt play

[@spkd123]

@@konstantinosvlachakis1857 so youre telling me mavericks are just a bunch of losers depending on 1 player? Aight. Or maybe real madrid are just better on a team level, which is obvious

[@MrAkaacer]

@@spkd123 NBA players usually don't go all out in these exhibition matches for fear of injury. These are promotional matches for basketball to enhance the game in Europe. Btw when you're talking about best player, that's 20%+ of the on court team firepower, 20+ because the best player does more than a regular player. For example, MJ probably on average scored a third (or more) of all Bulls points per game. Basketball is not football, a single player has more effect on a team.

[@spkd123]

@@MrAkaacer ahh, so youre saying they dont want to play. Of course. You're just either delusional or ignorant.

[@pimpinainteazy2020]

​@@spkd123you pretty much said it yourself 😂 that's the Mavs for you , the team runs through Doncic no one else sorry buddy boy

[@alzhansadykov9835]

fair point. especially in the light of team usa latest vows

[@Juandarocks]

Champions of the US, not even America

[@sincerelymello5627]

Barca and Real Madrid be cooking in fútbol and basketball 💀

[@profpenatieri]

In our perspective as Brazilians, this issue is reminiscent of the "Copa Toyota" controversy, also known as the Intercontinental Cup. In this tournament, the champion of the Copa Libertadores (which, by the way, excludes teams from Central and North America) faced the champion of the UEFA Champions League in a single match. After this single game, the winner was considered the world champion. Currently, the FIFA Club World Cup includes champions from continental leagues as representatives, and there are still plans for changes to give this tournament a championship format. In my view, this would provide more fairness in the "world champion" matter.

[@alessiofe]

absolutely correct my brazilian friend

[@jal051]

Yeah, the intercontinental was really outdated. It belong to the times when only Europe and South America had strong clubs, and it wasn't even correct in the territories. It's good they changed it. But hey, at least there was a cup. No one claimed to be World Champion just because.

[@reinoutvanrespaille6217]

your copa libertadores winner got slapped 4 zip by a team without its two best players. those north and central american teams would not change aynthing to that

[@profpenatieri]

@@reinoutvanrespaille6217 Your analysis is quite superficial, considering that a team from Asia and two from Africa have reached the final. Just like Fluminense, Santos with Neymar lost 4-0 to Barcelona in the final. So, understand that the world is not limited to South America and Europe, even in sports.

[@reinoutvanrespaille6217]

@@profpenatieri your point makes no sense. the champions of each continent play in a direct elimination tournament to decide the world champion. EXACTLY like the actual world cup. what do you want every single team in the world to play each other to determine the world champion?

[@pokolakofoka7256]

The same story can be seen on international team level as well. The FIBA World Cup for national teams hasn't been won by a north american team since 2014, with the last winner being Germany in 2023 and Spain in 2019. The US did not even make into the top 3 in each of those tournaments respectively. A European team is also tied for most titles overall with the US team (formerly Yugoslavia/now Serbia)

[@nationarmy2514]

This has nothing to do with NBA and club basketball. i do see your point but a national team is based on national players. a club is based on a team that can be from anywhere. You cant compare a football team such as Barcelona with Spain's team. The "argument " is about NBA champions and not National

[@peterkotar2324]

tf u mean "now serbia"? Yugoslavia consisted of 6 countries?

[@Kai-gr6sg]

I think Americans only take the Olympics seriously. Technically, it's higher than the FIBA World. But I'm not entirely sure. We'll see this 2024 in Paris.

[@pokolakofoka7256]

@@peterkotar2324 I am well aware of that, and it's actually seven countries : Bosnia and Herzegovina Croatia Kosovo (as much as some people like to deny this) Montenegro North Macedonia Serbia Slovenia Though most of these countries became independent well back in the early 90's, while Serbia and Montenegro weren't so until 2006-2008.

[@Frbra-am-egocentricity]

Did you see joker playing for Serbia in this fiba why didn’t he play cause it’s a low tier leauge for him he’s current nba champion and mvp he could have easily made Sérbia more better but why he didn’t cause it’s sucker trophy the winner it was denis Schroder who was good in finals and he plays in nba what is Schroder is nba nothing guys traded like shit the champion Schroder ain’t shit in nba see the level Schroder dominated in fiba but nba a little guy who gets traded players for Toronto

[@ezceelos2120]

I've always said ( I'm a Lakers fan) that I wish there was a champions style competition. Top 4 teams from every league compete each other to become the actual world champions

[@younezzz]

This was one of the best basketball videos I've ever watched, very very eye opening. Thank you

[@kharis87]

Facts overload......Common sense overload.

[@TheHadrian54]

The simple fact that the NBA doesn't play with the same rules as the rest of the world makes the "Worlds champions" title meaningless

[@nikolaydimitrov8361]

totally agree, it will be awesome to have a game or series between euro league and nba champions to declare the real world champion

[@wazzup233]

Noah Lyles is laughing somewhere at the background. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ClovzeLeFernandezMatthews]

He doesn't need to. He just needs to keep on focusing on his athletics career and winning more medals against athletes from all over the world. He doesn't live in a self-claimed fantasy with self-awarded "world champions" titles, and that's a big win for him already.

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

someone is salty@@ClovzeLeFernandezMatthews

[@brandongordon2392]

He’s a bum

[@injusticeanywherethreatens4810]

Thanks for saying it! You have this Canadian's support!

[@Axiermopc]

Also probably worth mentioning. European vs American teams winrate can't be really taken seriously as the European teams never face the bottom line of the NBA.

[@IceAlvaro13]

Maccabi Tel Aviv in four times, Real Madrid, CSKA and Barça in three times, Fenerbahçe in two times and Unicaja, ALBA Berlin, Adelaide 36ers and the national team of the Soviet Union, the only ones to win against NBA teams...anyway, thank you for make this very needed video, whatever more powerful the NBA is, it is still a national league.

[@Levi-tv5pd]

I don’t watch basketball, but seeing this video, I think it would be cool if they organized a championship like the Club World Cup by FIFA

[@tommyharlim276]

this needs to get settled sooner rather than later

[@ItzAnonyms]

One major fact you stated, NBA has a different ruleset to FIBA and Euroleague, which means they get to play all those games under the rules they are comfortable playing. None of those games were indeed played under FIBA rules, aka the rules used for international competitions

[@Scalia-ig6qz]

The NBA is an entertainment league. Basketball success doesn't have to be flashy, just put the ball in the hoop

[@emmanuelalegran6090]

​@breadandcircuses8127there is no passion. Its a business in Europe its passion its life

[@owenbuhler6408]

Ah yes because NBA teams care so much about NBA preseason games and they should matter when consider “world champs”. I’m not saying this has zero merit as an argument but using preseason matchups as evidence is absolutely brain dead

[@kingfreddy5268]

Still your teams aint "world champion" 😂

[@domimimi42]

I heard the words "World Champion"... As a german I became sharp-eared! 😉😂

[@pedroponpon1798]

I was there for the Alba Berlin/Spurs game, and i can tell you that even if Berlin did a great game, the spurs would have beaten them so hard if they had push at 100 percent. They only played the 2nd quarter at 90%, which lead them to more than 20 points advantage. Then they were just chilling and got surprised...

[@1robis1]

I would realy love if there would be a tournament where NBA and Euroleague teams play against each other :)

[@zwen3763]

17:40 Important to note that the Euro League teams played the best teams in the NBA if they were to play in a regular season they would have matched up with tanking teams and their records would be much better.

[@jal051]

He also chose some of the finest clubs in Europe. I think his comparison is balanced.

[@carlosmartinezcaballer8203]

i would love to see NBA teams playing officials on european courts. NBA is better at basketball, but NBA crowds are so lame. Imagine Denver or Boston playing Olympiakos, Real Madrid or Locomotiv with a full court

[@carlosmartinezcaballer8203]

also, one quick thing. European teams are accustomed to Single-Elimination, something NBA teams dont really know how to face. NBA coaches arent as quick as European coaches to change things in game (they make adjustments, whereas ive seen european coaches changing the starting five from the five that started to other 5 guys in the seconf half), usually making those changes in the next game of the series.

[@Komdwy]

Lokomotiv? Are you for real?

[@carlosmartinezcaballer8203]

@@Komdwy yeah, they are bad. But crowds are Crazy

[@Komdwy]

@@carlosmartinezcaballer8203 You must be joking..

[@carlosmartinezcaballer8203]

we played against them when i was young and they came here to spain. it was fucking crazy. maybe i remember them to foondly but they were NUTS @@Komdwy

[@mckillalaberry]

As a non American, it always confused me, coz American sports have a lot of tournaments called "world series" or world championships that only involves American teams 😄until they actually play against other countries

[@YashMezzala]

I legit thought world Series in baseball is a world Cup tournament

[@mckillalaberry]

@@YashMezzala bro😄

[@trumpvsbiden1337]

its a trap for sponsors x)

[@crusaderman4043]

Relax, euroleague/nba games involving champs is 19-6 going the US's way. The NBA is still the best league on the planet without a doubt.

[@mckillalaberry]

@@crusaderman4043 I'm not talking about that though

[@thetf8142]

I think if it was actually formatted like an important game/playoff game The game results would be drastically different.

[@090suiiiiii]

Even the basketball version of Barcelona can terrorizing anyone between 2009-2011

[@vinnyvorhees]

My man countered every argument Jimmy probably would clap back with. I was persuaded by his video until DKM just dropped a funkmaster flex bomb! Lol 💯💪

[@luisdominguez7019]

In football (soccer) we have continental cups and then there is another tournament amoung the winners to decide who is the world champion of that year

[@bostjanhribersek1205]

This is the best video when I see! Facts, numbers dont lie! Eurolegue teams go harder throw the time. 2003 , 2010, 2015. Every year more %for win. Now I think the best of eurolegue play with nba champion here in Europe, with eurolegue rules and refferes I think have 45 %to win! This is Fact. 👍💪🇸🇮

[@teflonjohn4018]

The question is how serious do the NBA players take those games. Because I doubt they take serious at all.

[@EuroHeroes]

Yeah, it's just a preseason game that's just got a bit more spice to it but that's it.

[@meganega123]

I thought Kobe was supposed to be competitive

[@slapmyfunkybass]

You really think professional sportsmen can turn off a winning mentality

[@TheCrazydude56]

Watch an NBA all star game 😂​@@slapmyfunkybass

[@pstriple16]

One game sample size against NBA teams fresh off of training camp. Come on lmfao

[@nnnp634]

First of all, preseason games are pretty irrelevant. European football clubs lose matches against teams from other continents all the time and yet have won last 11 Club World Championships. Or the other way around, US triumphed against Germany in a friendly match before FIBA WC, and yet Germany played way better than them for entire tournament (it's not just 1 fluke, Germany was undefeated and US had 3 loses and even struggled with Montenegro). That said we absolutely need an official tournament.

[@TiagoMadureiraVillanueva]

You have to say that the nba and euroleague have diferent rules, because It matters a lot for the stats

[@loxy2646]

what if i told you he did?

[@baskettime9923]

Many of the teams that lost to the NBA are from the second leagues from their country

[@amurorayrx7802]

I wanna see a game where BOTH teams have the same interest level.

[@georgemarco11]

loosing from a euro team...? i think it's all the motivation you need

[@jal051]

How about all the European audience who would watch that game?

[@yowiewowie8388]

I've become Scott Steiner after watching this video

[@SergioRCambra]

Excellent video, only thing wrong I could find was around the 8 minute mark when you say the Premier is the best football national league. It isn't. The only reason people claim it is is because it's the English league, which makes it more internationally accessible and have more "history" to itself. The best league is the Spanish "LaLiga". It has the best teams with the most international titles along with the best players in the world.

[@maudlinfaust]

No. It’s statistically the EPL. Anecdotally, from players and managers, it’s the EPL. La Liga is not the force it once was, since the EPL is benefitting from much higher revenue