Analyzing "Word Up" - How to get THAT sound | 80s Drum Sound Design Tricks | Drum Patterns Explained

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Captain Pikant

Captain Pikant

Күн бұрын

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@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much to everyone who pointed us towards Sammy Merendino, who programmed all of the drums on Cameo's "Word Up!" album (and "Single Life" and most of "Machismo" as well). We got in contact with him and he was kind enough to answer our question in detail. Here's what he had to say: "To clarify, there was NO gated reverb on any of those sounds, although your version is really close. Larry forbade any reverb when we were tracking. He wanted the samples bone dry and in your face. The snare drum was Larry clapping his hands in the 11th floor stairwell into an AMS, triggered from the sample we put on tape. The bass drum was a linn9000 stock kick paired with a distorted bass drum sample I made at media sound when I first received the 9000 sampling card. Hope this helps! Also the small white noise sounds were from a Simmons SDS7."
@DanizTV
@DanizTV Жыл бұрын
😲
@crimsonfancy
@crimsonfancy 9 ай бұрын
So awesome to learn of! Incredible!
@MadeOnTape
@MadeOnTape 6 ай бұрын
I've worked with Sammy on Broadway and he's a monster drummer irl...toured with Cyndi Lauper for a long time among too many credits to list. I just discovered your channel and am in love with everything about it!
@gunark
@gunark Жыл бұрын
Of course, the real icing on the cake was Larry Blackmon’s shiny red codpiece. It’s essential to the groove.
@tubeutubeuful
@tubeutubeuful Жыл бұрын
'Word up... Owww!'
@devinthierault
@devinthierault Жыл бұрын
Eyes right! Wait that's a codpiece turn away.
@beesting6135
@beesting6135 Жыл бұрын
C'mon boy😂😂😂
@stephen70edwards
@stephen70edwards Жыл бұрын
Is a codpiece a kind of high-pass filter?
@gunark
@gunark Жыл бұрын
@@stephen70edwards band pass
@zuur303
@zuur303 Жыл бұрын
One of the best tracks of 1986, a year already filled to the brim with great tunes!
@wolfgangdevries127
@wolfgangdevries127 Жыл бұрын
One of the best 80s tracks in the genre, yes. On par with "Pump Up The Volume", "Pump Up The Jam" and "Theme From S'Express".
@unduloid
@unduloid Жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangdevries127 Those are all different genres.
@ltandrepants
@ltandrepants Жыл бұрын
Things like that unique “snare” sound, which is immediately recognizable, make for memorable music!
@Music-tg5is
@Music-tg5is Жыл бұрын
That "snareclap" sound was sampled and used extensively in the late 80s / early 90s Amiga demoscene. The earliest home music production tracker music software and modules that were very popular in that era.
@Jacqueal
@Jacqueal Жыл бұрын
As a child, I simply enjoyed the song. As an adult, I absolutely appreciate the detail put into these classics. What a time to be alive.
@Jack_Rivet
@Jack_Rivet Жыл бұрын
I love how a spoonful of funk is the only thing that stops this beat from sounding like it wouldn't be out of place on an early Nine Inch Nails record This beat SLAPS!
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
After filming we realized that the bass drum sound design can be tricky to hear, especially the individual EQ changes, so if you have trouble hearing the differences you could consider listening to the segment on mixing headphones or loudspeakers with a good bass response. Some of these sound design changes are pretty minute, but they add up as you can hear in the before/after segment :)
@djmips
@djmips Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I quickly realized I needed to immediately switch to high quality headphones and it did the trick!
@Magnus_Loov
@Magnus_Loov Жыл бұрын
No problem at all hearing all the differences, although I am using a Beyerdynamic DT 770-Pro headphone.
@iconoptixx
@iconoptixx Жыл бұрын
Listening to this through an iPhone speaker made it really clear interestingly. After the 30hz cut you could hear the thump of the kick, where you couldn’t before. Demonstrates the importance of low cuts for kick translation.
@markus6409
@markus6409 Жыл бұрын
​@@Magnus_Loovwhy allthough? The dt770 has sub bass and bass extension until the ground looking at the frequency response. Of course you should hear the changes. Even the response is quite uneven and the treble dip its all there. Most of the time goid or pricy headphones are more linear or bring you the sound better qualitywise. But there is nothing "wrong" With your dt770. But the guy under your comment talking about hearing 30hz cuts on a iphone speaker seems like imagination even if i have no i phone.
@Magnus_Loov
@Magnus_Loov Жыл бұрын
​@@markus6409 "Although" as in "Yes I can hear it all, although the reason for it is that I DO have good headphones (as opposed to the crappy default ones).
@crimsonfancy
@crimsonfancy 9 ай бұрын
I am dating myself but I remember this one from the beginning. We used to roller-skate when I was young and we had two indoor locations to do so....even in my small town. Anyway, yes. *Word Up .....and we would put our "hands in the air like we just don't care." These roller-skating "rinks" were were I would first meet girls and dance with skates on! lol I was born 1970 and maybe these past days of youth and this music I recall is why I'm here now .... I wish to replicate and yet re-imagine what I knew but now to learn so much more in the process of remaining young.... ? ! haha! Or not so but one thing I continue to experience and realize :.....nostalgia is a powerful feeling, yes?! Again, thank you CaptainPikant.... and I thank your interns and all for a very approachable way of instruction. So much a pleasure for me. /cheers to all
@davidyates748
@davidyates748 Жыл бұрын
The vector gives an insight into just how much effort goes into the sound design for these videos. Thanks Cap'n and the lady with the beautiful hands!
@bertsteemers5860
@bertsteemers5860 Жыл бұрын
I remember reading on gearspace a while back that the clap sound was actually someone in the studio building clapping on the other side of a large hallway. That specific "custom" sample (or a soundalike) was later used in a large amount of drum machine
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Interesting! If you find the link please post it :)
@avace917
@avace917 4 ай бұрын
I actually worked with the recording engineer who recorded and mixed this album, Eric Calvi. He told me the same story but it was actually 3 members of Cameo in the stairwell of Quad Studios clapping their hands and he recorded it
@dentakuweb
@dentakuweb Жыл бұрын
At the end when you started adding more to it i realized how much this sounds like Skinny Puppy. It's very mid 80s industrial.
@ehenoma7891
@ehenoma7891 Жыл бұрын
Your content is so entertaining and yet educational at the same time. I am still blown away by your production quality. Great one 👍
@marzlberger
@marzlberger Жыл бұрын
I dont know what is more impressive: Youre music or video edition skills :)
@Hiznogood
@Hiznogood Жыл бұрын
Yes, what a great end of a workweek! Vielen Dank!
@ktreier
@ktreier 7 ай бұрын
Love the quirky production on this channel. Go Beat Bunny!
@beetheimmortal
@beetheimmortal Жыл бұрын
I've never heard this song in my life, but it's very entertaining to learn about it. The beat is also very catchy.
@IrnBruNYC
@IrnBruNYC Жыл бұрын
Go listen to "Candy" next. Same drum sounds, same album. Classic.
@CentaurusRelax314
@CentaurusRelax314 Жыл бұрын
Never heard it? That's amazing. Sad, actually..... : ( But, in a way, it's also quite wonderful-you probably have so much incredible music still left to discover. I have such vivid memories of this song being played in my favorite college bar. So much fun.....
@IrnBruNYC
@IrnBruNYC Жыл бұрын
@@CentaurusRelax314 If (s)he’s never heard it, then (s)he certainly does not know about the red codpiece! I would say it is in the top 50 most iconic songs of the 80s. If you had told me when this song was new that in 2023, I would have the entire history of recorded music at my fingertips. I would not have believed you.
@beetheimmortal
@beetheimmortal Жыл бұрын
@@CentaurusRelax314 Weird thing is, it's not like I don't know any songs from that time period. I know Oingo Boingo or CHIC among others plenty well. This particular song and I just never crossed paths it seems.
@CentaurusRelax314
@CentaurusRelax314 Жыл бұрын
@@IrnBruNYC
@aaarne3006
@aaarne3006 Жыл бұрын
Great job covering all the what’s, how’s and why’s in such a short time! Keep’em coming!
@r0nes
@r0nes Жыл бұрын
Cameo info from the net;; we used a Linn LM-2 on single life, with a simmons ads-v for the white noise sounds. I also had an Akai S900 sampler, but the bulk of the sounds were generated on the Linndrum For Word up, I used a Linn 9000. The bass drum sample was the stock Kick drum sample combined with an overloaded sample I made at Media sound. Was the first sample I made using the new sampling card. It was all distorted, but I saved it thinking I would use it for something in the future. Was the perfect match for the snare drum sample, which was Larry’s handclap sampled in the hallway at the studio into an AMS. I also had a Simmons SDs-7 and SDSV as well. Machismo was a combination of Linn/Forat 9000 plus an Akai MPC. Had a Forat sampler. but Larry preferred the sound of 8 or 12 bit, so we used the Akai sampling instead. Was a little grittier.
@Decoy303
@Decoy303 Жыл бұрын
Nice thing about this is having the knowledge to apply this to any project you want to make.
@TinyMaths
@TinyMaths Жыл бұрын
I almost lost my mind when I first heard the song over the radio. My older brother got the album, and then I played this song to death, along with the rest of it. Really interesting to see you break it down like you did; now, hearing all those little elements, I'm not surprised that I, and a lot of other people fell in love with this tune. Even without the chords, melody and other elements it's just so catchy.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it :)
@TrueTempleDog
@TrueTempleDog Жыл бұрын
Sick. Great practical use of HP filtering!
@MikeUIibarri
@MikeUIibarri Жыл бұрын
That was worth the cost of subscribing.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Wait a minute... 😄
@jackberlien8916
@jackberlien8916 18 күн бұрын
Great video! One extra challenge though - there's this sound, kinda like something revving up and slowing down rapidly. Occurs around 2:25 in the song - like 1-2-3- "Errr" 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-"Errr Errr" Not sure if that makes sense but I'm sure you've noticed it. Would love to know how that was done!
@tsdmoto
@tsdmoto Жыл бұрын
Amazing amazing amazing video. I love the way you break this beat down. It's so helpful to see each of the patterns by themselves as it gives new producers a lot of ideas to pull from. Cheers
@fmjoss
@fmjoss 11 ай бұрын
Just brilliant. I've tried to recreate this previously without success but now know how. Many thanks.
@DrHouse-zs9eb
@DrHouse-zs9eb 6 ай бұрын
Thats great content. Very interesting
@avace917
@avace917 4 ай бұрын
It's a good thing I can understand enough about this to translate it to my MPC. That OX sequencer you're using looks very intimidating
@rogeronealjr8051
@rogeronealjr8051 7 ай бұрын
OOOOOOOOOUCH!!!!!!!! THAT PANNING!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉
@inkfingers
@inkfingers Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this sweet breakdown! The trickiest part of this rad jam is getting the hair right.
@kafkawilde4604
@kafkawilde4604 Жыл бұрын
Real engineering skill and talent in this
@dariuseviltwin
@dariuseviltwin Жыл бұрын
Oof! Sounds fantastic! I remember many years ago there was forum talk that the original snare sound on the track came from a Yamaha RX-5 (original ROM set cartridge), though tweaked within the machine with its extensive parameter editing capabilities. I have an RX-5 and couldn't get the exact tone (but got pretty close) Another notable use of the RX-5 snare was "Beat Dis" by Bomb The Bass.
@thomp9054
@thomp9054 Жыл бұрын
Consistently great videos and lessons! Thanks y'all!
@tomrobinson4781
@tomrobinson4781 Жыл бұрын
Aye! Perfect. Lovely. I have never forgotten the song
@thesurgingmass
@thesurgingmass Жыл бұрын
Production value through the roof. Word Up!
@keysplease3519
@keysplease3519 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, lots of really good information. Thanks.
@mudi2000a
@mudi2000a Жыл бұрын
Great!! Finally subscribed! I have loved the song right since it came out.
@chayalexanderwright
@chayalexanderwright Жыл бұрын
Great video - dope! That clap is likely an EPROM of a Simmons SDS clap blown into the Linndrum, as Larry Blackmon was a huge champion of Simmons kits.
@B0K1T0
@B0K1T0 Жыл бұрын
The sickest of your videos I've seen so far! I was banging my head so hard during the end jam🤘
@Sinnersainthuman
@Sinnersainthuman Жыл бұрын
best content creator hands down 💚
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
Ohhh thank you for these layering tips! I’ve been stuck working on a track where the rhythm is sourced from samples of other mechanical devices like tape decks and hard drives - but they always sounded so thin. Which I kind of knew they would and planned to lean-into, but it was just a bit stronger than I wanted even with strong shaping. Turns out I should just layer 2-4 of them synced! Thank you again!
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad it was useful to you :)
@jennoscura2381
@jennoscura2381 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this! I run Reaper on Linux and decided to check out Tal Drum. To my delight there is a reason for Linux. I plan on downloading a demo to try out. I normally prefer hardware drum sound sources. But a sample player plugin would give me a ton of options. I am thinking it might be fun for vocal samples to throw into a dance track.
@McEnroe911
@McEnroe911 Жыл бұрын
What a great video. Enjoyed that very much. Thank you!
@expander3710
@expander3710 Жыл бұрын
Surgically precise.
@uweschnitzler9551
@uweschnitzler9551 Жыл бұрын
this is so spot on! Amazing as always !
@donniecatalano
@donniecatalano Жыл бұрын
Excellent content, thank you
@haaspaas2
@haaspaas2 Жыл бұрын
I never knew Cameo covered this Korn classic.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Actually Korn covered it from Little Mix.
@benanderson89
@benanderson89 Жыл бұрын
I own a real LinnDrum, bone stock, and I'll be giving this a try using your tips! UPDATE: I made a short about it :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6i9coWOp9N4htk You can't tune the kick on the Linn and of course it won't be preprocessed like so many sample packs, so I imagine it might be a trick of the ear with heavy EQ, compression and the bassline running underneath. Whilst I do have vintage verb in my plugin collection, I also have GLOW and Pulse from wave alchemy, which are recreations of the RMX16 and PCM-60 so maybe there will be some secret sauce in there as well in those period correct effects. Likewise I have the amazing VSDS-X from Aly James for the Simmons portions. For the clap, I imagine it's literally noise. I've read posts from old producers who state that layering noise via a trigger out on the Linn or other machines was very common; might even be the simmons because it generated noise that you could filter that would've retained the snap at the start. Since the Linn also didn't have any automation, the tambourine is probably a digital delay or some kind which ping pongs into the other speaker.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
That's true, the stock LinnDrum didn't have tuning for the kick drum, but you could modify it :) Let us know if you like the other reverbs better than the Nonlinear algorithm of the VintageVerb (I'd be very interested in a sound sample if you can upload one). We also thought that the Tambourine was simply run through a delay, but presented like that on the sequencer it's much easier to grasp :)
@benanderson89
@benanderson89 Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikant Ask and ye shall receive! kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6i9coWOp9N4htk It's not perfect as there's more EQ and delicate filter tweaking needed on the Odyssey, but it's a reasonable approximation for something done so quickly.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
@@benanderson89 awesome! Props for putting this together so quickly!!
@benanderson89
@benanderson89 Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikant thank you! ♥️ Your EQ settings for the clap/snare helped a lot xD
@RealAqua
@RealAqua Жыл бұрын
You can swap your kick eprom into a tube able slot such as the conga. This will allow for the kick to be tuned. Also “word up” was not made on a linndrum. It was the Linn 9000
@Jaelights
@Jaelights Жыл бұрын
I really love the sound design section on this one! I feel like sound design on drum machines is an often overlooked topic, but it can really spice up your songs if you pay attention to it :D
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jae, we're really glad you liked it :)
@scouthanamura2380
@scouthanamura2380 Жыл бұрын
awesome video captain
@1Surinamer
@1Surinamer Жыл бұрын
What a great channel is this, I really enjoyed this. Happy to come across your channel, This was f, ing dope!
@jimbotron70
@jimbotron70 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly nailed 💯
@RufusRoss
@RufusRoss Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this very much ❤ what a drum groove
@tuc5987
@tuc5987 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Yeah the source of that snare/clap, such an iconic sound, can't imagine there isn't a magazine article about it somewhere. Probably some old print magazine though.
@TeachAManToAngle
@TeachAManToAngle 10 ай бұрын
This channel must be a good outlet to help provide you with some sanity. You are doing good work for your pops.
@redbigapplefloppa302
@redbigapplefloppa302 Жыл бұрын
I actually stopped high- and low pass filtering everything by default. Yes, sometimes it muddies your mix. But sometimes those little peaks make the whole sound more immersive. It mostly depends on the kind of effects you run it through but IF it's an issue, for example when you distort it, you'll immediately recognize it. But that goes both ways: sometimes it sounds awesome. If you cut it out by default, you'll always miss those opportunities. Also it may just thin out your mix
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
That's true, in the end always let your ears decide :)
@SpikesStudio3
@SpikesStudio3 Жыл бұрын
word up. Indeed. GOLD. Cheers cap/intern.🎯
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael, we're glad you like it :)
@cosmosynthesizer
@cosmosynthesizer Жыл бұрын
gooood content! Thats what YT is for. Follow you from now on.
@irradix213
@irradix213 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome, thank you
@3k3k3
@3k3k3 Жыл бұрын
Another perfect video, thanks!
@s3watch
@s3watch Жыл бұрын
Had me at 1:00 (I could already hear the whistles 😊)
@roncordell
@roncordell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this - really awesome! Need to find a way to capture the essence of the vocal track - there's nothing quite like it when paired with the music... I learned so much from this video alone!! Cheers!
@douglasschmalz7772
@douglasschmalz7772 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thank you 🥲
@cnfuzz
@cnfuzz Жыл бұрын
Read in an interview it was a mix of linndrum samples and most importantly a Yamaha Rx5
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks! I just checked a few demos of it and that could very well be possible :)
@theblacksquirrel.
@theblacksquirrel. Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikant Thank you for the video, as I understand it Mr Red Codpiece was a decent drummer and mixed his Dave Simmons kit with the Yamaha RX-5 (released 1986), they were a 70's funk/R&B band and bands of that genre/ era typically had lots of musicians/ people of stage, I don't think sequencers were adopted until later possibly more so by the Europeans before the Americans?
@cnfuzz
@cnfuzz Жыл бұрын
​@@theblacksquirrel.The band The system ( american) contradicts your theory since they mixed funk with extensive sequence work , so much so they were in demand as programmers by European acts like Robert Palmer or Phil collins.
@theblacksquirrel.
@theblacksquirrel. Жыл бұрын
​@@cnfuzz Yeah, not really… They were a duo who met and started in the 80’s, which is very different to my point about bands that came up through the 70’s - think bands like Cool & the Gang, Earth, Wind & Fire, Parliament/ Funkadelic etc. I don’t know what they got paid back then, but when I started gigging in the 90’s, it wasn’t much and split 3 - 4 ways was better than split 8 - 10 ways, a midi sequencer didn’t drink your bar tab either! I had to look up the two artists you mentioned in relation to “The System” Robert Palmer covered one of their songs and Phil Collins used David Frank for one song, playing Synth and Synth bass parts (in the studio, but not live) as a keyboard player and arranger he did have quite a successful career.
@blocSonic
@blocSonic Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@BrockHenry
@BrockHenry Жыл бұрын
I remember this song well, but have not heard it on the radio in forever. It seems history forgot about it, but it's not a bad song at all.
@zarcon85
@zarcon85 Жыл бұрын
I saw this played live in 1987...it was my first concert ever....😂. It was actually played as an encore, though it was THE worldwide hit by then. God knows how this song and it's BEAT changed everything in terms of the perception of black music over here in Europe. Prince kicked in the door, but this song actually conquered ANY Dancefloor, no matter what! After all these years i could pull up this thing from my 80/90s gear, just by ear. Lol. Great analysis, but of course i would do the thing in a more "traditional", non DAW setting using my DMX, some Kawai and Akai Sounds plus Basic Alesis Effects to get there...cuz that's what i have...lol. The additional claps and stuff, that sounds like rim sticks, that was interesting, i always wondered how they did that...
@butsukete1806
@butsukete1806 Жыл бұрын
Didn't even realize you could do that conditional thing on the Oxi. Cool.
@Psychlist1972
@Psychlist1972 Жыл бұрын
The clap sound in Fine Young Cannibals' "She Drives me Crazy" has a lot in common with that clap here. Maybe the same original sample/Linn?
@Ted_Swayinghill
@Ted_Swayinghill Жыл бұрын
Absolute FIRE
@JarekLupinski
@JarekLupinski Жыл бұрын
adding that bit of reverb to the end of the bass drum makes it sound like a basketball hitting a gym floor 🏀
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
😆That's what I always thought when hearing the break in Sting's "Englishman in New York"!
@shalenaporter18
@shalenaporter18 7 ай бұрын
I ❤ it this is so musically 🎶 educational .
@autistikicecream
@autistikicecream Жыл бұрын
This is AMAZING! Thank you! 🐇🐇🐇
@kaikiefer8303
@kaikiefer8303 Жыл бұрын
Nice. Instant like. ❤
@chriswareham
@chriswareham Жыл бұрын
The Kawai R-50e has sounds that are so close to the ones on Word Up that I wonder if that's the machine they used rather than a LinnDrum, or perhaps its bigger brother the R-100 that could use the same EPROM for the electronic drum set. The R-50e has to be the most 80s sounding digital drum machine in existence - it even has a gate parameter for the sounds!
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
It seems the R-50e was released in 1988, two years after Word Up. Its sounds extremely 80s though, for sure :)
@chriswareham
@chriswareham Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikant Wow, I remember Word Up being from later in the 80s! As for the LinnDrum, I owned one for many years and the raw sounds are massive. I assume the idea was that it's possible to filter out the frequencies you don't need, but you can't boost ones that aren't there in the first place. It meant I had to buy a mixer with enough channels to process each sound individually, which was a bit of a novelty for someone like me that had only previously used quite thin sounding analogue drum machines.
@mvaudio5
@mvaudio5 Жыл бұрын
Really cool !
@davidsanfeliumarco9664
@davidsanfeliumarco9664 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you so much!!!
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome :)
@lowlowseesee
@lowlowseesee 9 ай бұрын
i wish you had a donate button. you're insane
@lowlowseesee
@lowlowseesee 9 ай бұрын
your branding and skills on the beats is nuts man. are you a Cyborg?
@clipmage
@clipmage Жыл бұрын
I'm not a musician, just classical music education, but your videos never fail to amaze me. Very high quality! Maybe someday I'll get my master keyboard out and do something. Keep it up.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Thanks! The time is now, get that master keyboard out :)
@PureObsessionsRedNights
@PureObsessionsRedNights Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@JavaJack59
@JavaJack59 Жыл бұрын
In some sections of the original, the snare also gets doubled with itself for a weird comb filter effect that makes it stand out even more.
@ChromosomeSyndicate
@ChromosomeSyndicate Жыл бұрын
Ik heb ooit een Linn drum gehad maar nooit veel gebruikt . De Simmons drums klonken interessanter naar mijn mening.
@mpmi7588
@mpmi7588 7 ай бұрын
According to Discogs Lists, the Yamaha RX-5 has been used on the following songs: "Word Up! Cameo
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant 7 ай бұрын
Take a look at the pinned comment, the musician who programmed the beat told us how he did it :)
@ARP_2600
@ARP_2600 Жыл бұрын
You really really nailed that 80s sound with the drums!!! Did you use sidechaining in the final jam?
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Thanks! We usually do to at least a small degree, but we just checked and on this end jam we actually didn't use any sidechaining :)
@Dizmal0ne
@Dizmal0ne Жыл бұрын
I could do this whole thing on Acid Pro with some Waves Plug In's much easier :P . However this is super authentic and fun sound design demo bro. As an opposite man I reckon Combining the Buses at end though your loop would still need additional channels for Master Kick n snare then to merge with the orignal, so to stay right and true. I find it strange to see compression and frequency cut offs on, singular sample sounds, which are being triggered by midi. But I suppose for just a drum track you nailed it! Totally has that 80's sound to it volume wise. Here is what I believe the snare actually is.. We Will Rock You - YW... Very common sample to play with back then as there are varying human offset in group tandem as well as a pretty snappy tight one or two. Add a 909/808 snare to that with a regular clap and a fast snappy wood glock
@calebcomrie7984
@calebcomrie7984 Жыл бұрын
I had completely forgotten about Cameo until this video
@iamtwilburn
@iamtwilburn Жыл бұрын
You are a drum 🥁 genius 😅
@gavinkerslake
@gavinkerslake 9 ай бұрын
by the content of your videos, you appear to have perfect pitch.
@gcfournier3386
@gcfournier3386 Жыл бұрын
The painted fingernails matching the video background is 💅🤌
@TweelerDotCom
@TweelerDotCom Жыл бұрын
Nice! Thx
@ehernandez20
@ehernandez20 11 ай бұрын
This makes me want to to see you tackle "I Want Your Hands On Me" by Sinéad O'Connor
@Magnus_Loov
@Magnus_Loov Жыл бұрын
This actually sounds much, much more punchier and with a much deeper kick than the original. I suspect they only used a gated reverb and maybe some basic overall EQ-ing. Not treating every individual sound with specific wave editing (like fine-tuning with cutting off the tail of a reverberated sound) or effects. Probably even only a gated reverb as a send effect. I mean overall with all the instruments and all in the final song here it sounds so much better (clearer, punchier and "in your face") than the original that is on Spotify!
@tommyfeinstoff
@tommyfeinstoff Жыл бұрын
Its probably from a linn but processed through a nonlinear reverb and heavy boost around 1khz. That's at least what they did to the "she drives me crazy" snare wich sounds the same. Love that signature sound.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the link posted by @klinkske here in the comment section? In that video there's a detailed explanation of the "She Drives Me Crazy" snare sound :)
@tommyfeinstoff
@tommyfeinstoff Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikant wwhaaaat? no can't see it.
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
@@tommyfeinstoff here you go kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6GqnpdniJebors :)
@PylonRecordsdotcom
@PylonRecordsdotcom Жыл бұрын
Depeche Mode - Strange Love and also the Blind Remix of Strangelove by Rico Conning pays homage to Word Up.
@DynADBox
@DynADBox 6 ай бұрын
no homage, they stole the snare drum, i dont think they ask for it
@monnimonnickendam7289
@monnimonnickendam7289 Жыл бұрын
Oxy 1 is good for demonstrating sequences. Most of us had to do these in our heads and by trial and error. Not everyone is a musician. We are spoilt now with Daw's and modern versions of classic drum machines.
@marcelduvenage3289
@marcelduvenage3289 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting to see the sound design stuff.. Cool video. On a side note how is the oxi compared to the hapax for sequencing?
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Love them both! They have different workflows, but it would be way too much to write in a comment. We're actually thinking about making a video comparing the four big pad matrix sequencers (Squarp Hapax, Synthstrom Deluge, Oxi One, Polyend Play).
@spotlight-kyd
@spotlight-kyd Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikant Oh, please do. I would certainly watch that.
@marcelduvenage3289
@marcelduvenage3289 Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikant That would be most useful and generally awesome! I've been looking for a Hapax vs Oxi comparison but including the other two would be even better. I hope you do end up doing that video.. Anyhow thanks for the videos..
@EBMZEQUENZER
@EBMZEQUENZER Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation : when I was younger : I was obsessed with this beat would you consider Billy Ocean's - Loverboy drum breakdown? thank you for sharing Cheers 🥂
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Oh man I had almost forgotten about this song, thanks for bringing up the memories :)
@EBMZEQUENZER
@EBMZEQUENZER Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikant hey now : this is why we come here 👍
@DmitryGorbushin
@DmitryGorbushin Жыл бұрын
Only listening this video I just figured out the drum loop from "Word Up" reminds me "She Drives Me Crazy" by Fine Young Cannibals. I compared the two and I'm quite surprised "She Drives Me Crazy" does not have the sample from "Word Up". But they both sound very similar though.
@Jack_Rivet
@Jack_Rivet Жыл бұрын
I googled the She Drives Me Crazy production process, and found an interview with the original members where they recounted the story of going to Minneapolis to work with an engineer who worked with Prince (since their label wouldn't pay for them to work with Prince, so next best thing) and it described the creation of the snare sound: the quick version is that the engineer took the top off a snare drum, hit it with a wooden ruler, processed the sound a a bit then blended it with a snare from a drum machine.
@DmitryGorbushin
@DmitryGorbushin Жыл бұрын
@@Jack_Rivet Creativity at its best!
@fortynights5001
@fortynights5001 Жыл бұрын
I have been looking for that snare/clap sound used in mid to late 80’s Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis tracks to no end if anyone knows the source that would be awesome!
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Can you recommend a track where you can hear the snare/clap especially clearly?
@clauscombat418
@clauscombat418 Жыл бұрын
The snare might come from a Musicaid/Simmons Claptrap, the first, analog one..?
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's a good hint, we'll follow up on this :)
@tuc5987
@tuc5987 Жыл бұрын
Yes I was going to post simmons claptrap as well - but the digital one though, with a clap sample and white noise ( I believe). I reads lots of forum threads since the video was posted, and the claptrap was one of the more credible suggestions.
@tuc5987
@tuc5987 Жыл бұрын
Oh absolutely it's the digital claptrap, just found this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH7Pk5SJqbGYj8U After a minute and a half, there's that sound!
@CaptainPikant
@CaptainPikant Жыл бұрын
@@tuc5987sounds pretty spot on :)
@segahaze
@segahaze 11 ай бұрын
I have an RX-5 kit with a similar clap sound
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