Ancient pre-Maori sites around Auckland, New Zealand

A stimulating morning spent with Martin Doutre, expert on the repressed knowledge of ancient (2000 years ago) Celtic cultures of New Zealand. See www.celticnz.co.nz/author.html for more on Martin

[@kangasistan]

I have found many of those carved bowls in massive boulders along with obvious monolithic stacked boulders on Kauai Hawaii. Nobody thinks anything of them here. When the Polynesians discovered Hawaii, there were indigenous people already here, about 500,000 of them. The Polynesians called them Menehune (commoners) but they called themselves Mu.

[@eeeaten]

menehune are mythical. ie not actually real. there is no evidence of people in hawaii before polynesians arrived.

[@CharlieHoliday369]

There WAS. I suppose the people ALREADY HERE in the MAORI legends were mythical too,eh...

[@migsbro]

@@eeeaten XD

[@tearoabone9705]

@REDHOT exactly my point as yous always do..! Take our mythical korero knowing its a myth an turn it into your reality to make others who don't know about our mystical/mythical stories deceiving your followers to believe. Examples WHITE Patupaiarehe, u made him like a real man, when he was a mythical guide through the forests alike a big fairy.. An yous liken PATUPAIAREHE to be of the CELTS people right! Right. So why you all leaving out the RED PATUPAIAREHE He was seen to b like fire, warning not to go any further within the bush or else death will fall upon u.. So as soon as u c this RED fairy my/our Tupuna used to turn back then change direction of travel as I was told by the old people. So RED Patupaiarehe, I thought yous would have said they were REDSKIN INDIANS... Mythology to Realities AMAZING

[@tearoabone9705]

@@CharlieHoliday369 yes there was. My Tupuna, an the Tupuna of my Tupuna and their Tupuna of their Tupuna so on so forth to the families that came with the 1st migration out of hawaiki roa 3 large canoes KAHUTARA, TAIKORIA, OKOKI

[@royramsay538]

I guess people can knock what he is saying if you think you you know better.I for one think we are kept in the dark about who was here first .Not that it matters but it does kill a lot of theories as to who came here first.It is all about the dollar at the end of the day.

[@eeeaten]

nope. scientists LOVE any new evidence that suggests an accepted explanation can't be correct. there is no science showing people were in new zealand before 1250AD, and a crapload of it showing people were here soon after that.

[@tearoabone9705]

Quite funny how all this korero amazes kiwis for the fact that, Maori never could make these stone structures.. You can feel the lies projecting though his deceitful mouth 🤣😂 y lie, your theories really have no basis..

[@tearoabone9705]

@@eeeaten yes so true, they hav already sent their theories to our scientists.. Got denied on the theory of Celts berbers picts etc coming to this land... So they make their theories heard though youtube to keep their eyes open to demising the Tupuna these guys learnt off an lie to the public... Y h8 love

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

You're only kept in the dark by your own ignorance.

[@stephenhoward7454]

A scared media and government, go see for yourself; Clements Rd (12kms in approx. on the left) - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures, 4,000+ years old! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series. NZ history is thousand of years, not a few hundred. Heaps on KZbin on all of these, shame on you NZ (the land of the sheep). “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32

[@lauretted273]

There are thousands of stone constructions across the earth from Briton, France, Europe, Asia, the middle east, Egypt, Japan, north and south America, parts of the Pacific, in fact, they are found and continue to be discovered in just about every country. The construction shapes vary from blocks, walls, pyramids, circles, temples, buildings cut in mountains, and even spherical boulders. Many of the constructions have astonishing geometric shapes, no one can really explain how they were built, the alignments, the mathematics involved, how massive stones were moved, or who built them Although the age of many or most of these constructions is often debated and largely unknown, some have geological evidence for very advanced age. It is not inconceivable that similar constructions could exist in New Zealand i.e. walls made of massive stones (Kaimanawa) or spherical boulders. In fact, to adamantly state they don't, doesn't fit with the pattern in the rest of the world. Sadly most of the comments here focus on race and color! which has absolutely nothing to do with stone boulders.

[@mb68nz35]

Laurette D says...walls made of massive stones (Kaimanawa)... REPLY: Both natural rock formations according to experts not amatuers like Doutre with zero academic credentials in NZ History or Archaeology and connections to anti-Maori hate groups. NZ skeptics has all the facts on its website.

[@mb68nz35]

Zero evidence exist for human habitation beyond 1000 years in NZ.

[@mb68nz35]

Laurette D says Sadly most of the comments here focus on race and color! which has absolutely nothing to do with stone boulders. REPLY: Maori dont like seeing our history replaced with lies and bullshit. You expected Maori to grin and bare it? Talk shit you can bet a clap back is coming.

[@ChurchInAshes]

​@@mb68nz35 why all the government embargos then? why the conveniently timed embargo on Waipoua Forest Stone City excavation? Stop racializing the issue this has nothing to do with race we just want to learn the real NZ history so let us DIG. It stinks of lies and coverups badly mate, Maori people themselves have been saying for decades that when they arrived there was already people here.

[@mb68nz35]

@@ChurchInAshes Government Embargo? Go ahead and show evidence of a embargo you conspiracy dimwit. Martin Doutre who started the rumour was forced to admit he was wrong on his own stupid website that the records that he claims were hidden have been available since the 90s you idiot. You people are clueless.

[@paulthompson7280]

Maori Legend has it as when they got hear their was a Pepole hear all ready white Giants blond and red hire most were 7- 8ft tall so why denied when their is allot of evidence to prove it thay have found skeletons that are 7 - 8ft tall and were about 1000 year's old two of witch were found in Wellington Fact thay Destroyed the bones and kept it Quiet and covered it up 😮😮

[@carlinwaretini8529]

@@paulthompson7280 😂😂😂

[@RedZelda]

I particularly like the ancient Maori paintings on the ground. I marvel at how they kept the yellow lines so evenly spaced.

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

Those are pre-Maori Celtic roadmarkings, actually.

[@keastymatthew2407]

They were doing that, when the imbreeding was at its max🤣🤣

[@unclebully1871]

@@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653you are insane 🤣

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

Jooooooke.@@unclebully1871

[@melaroha8003]

​you wish hahaa@@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653

[@pnireaha6019]

This man is one of NZ most respected and highly qualified historians , resident at Chch Teachers College training NZ history teachers for many years. He knows his stuff. Solid evidence v maori folklore may be uncomfortable truth but he presents strong arguments. Well done Barry.

[@eeeaten]

this is martin, not barry. martin is a nut. try again.

[@pnireaha6019]

So true

[@pnireaha6019]

You are off with your assumption I am afraid. Try searching for "Barry Brailsford"

[@mb68nz35]

Martin Doutre is a racist clown...don't you people check people's backgrounds?

[@zanedickson2725]

This guy honestly looks like he's a Schizophrenic.

[@teivaiafuifala6923]

As a Maori teen,this very very interesting and I'm wondering why this isn't taught in school

[@bucyrusbe]

because its utter bullshit that doesn't even amount to speculation

[@robmarshall9204]

@Taivaia Fuifala: I doubt if anyone has a rational answer for you. However, what is more to the point is that you have shown that you have an 'open mind' and this is much to be prized. So many people are constricted by the beliefs and opinions of their whanau, iwi, etc. that they have no ability to think for themselves - they are foolish. I am in my 80s and my advice to you would be to maintain this ability to consider the views of others - even those that might appear to be diametrically opposed to those held by you. Neither accept not reject out of hand, but keep an open mind. I wish you good fortune and that you have a satisfying and successful life.

[@justinomar9210]

@@robmarshall9204 nah we ain't like that maybe the old kaumatuas are but definitely not the young generation we're just as fascinated as you lot are

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

Because it's pseudoscience.

[@ewanmiller9487]

Your inquisitiveness and your wish to be factually informed is admirable. Histories are generally taught to blend in with political agendas of nations, and NZ is no exception. The current orthodoxy taught in NZ school curriculums and universities is in line with the narrative, that Maori were the first inhabitants of New Zealand, and any other evidence to the contrary is flat out dismissed as conspiracy theory, or unqualified non-academic opinions. Academic indoctrinations are emphasised on. There are numerous artefacts in NZ validating the fact that the country was inhibited long before the arrival of Maori. Artefacts, some of the most significant in Northland, the Government has placed a moratorium on.

[@matttuhux9899]

Kina make the bowls find them all over the coast of nz

[@kimberleywilliams5228]

There are bowls honed into rocks at fairy falls in the waitakere ranges in Auckland ,many beautifully made at the waterfalls at bottom of track .They are made into the bedrock .My father Rex Hill and family went there often ...Mark Hill here from Kelston Boys High - i went camping many times there with Lawrence Wigby and Paul Cottar ,Stefhanie Walker and Janine Mudford ....always we stopped and pondered these man made bowls -i thought they were for making dyes or such ...best time of my life wandering thru the waitakere mountain ranges -awesome place ,miss Piha,keri keri beach heaps..

[@Slipperygecko390]

That's because flowing water does that.

[@KanyeKetchup]

Karekare

[@kimberleywilliams5228]

​@@KanyeKetchupmagic spot friend of the Harvey family stayed in batch up - Frazer's lol Old mate Bob Harvey top bloke !

[@Stoic_Horo]

Every time bones are found with red hair in the cave systems in the West Waikato, local iwi shuts it down and destroys the find. Bloody disgraceful. They killed off the Moriori but who else did come here. There is evidence that Chinese people came here before Maori ever did, but they said there was nothing of worth here in thier historic manuscripts. People were traveling around the globe in boats thousands of years before current agreed date.

[@deslynmcintyre3833]

There are already Maori families in the area that are aware of the celtic people as they married into them 800 years ago. This family has many generations of blue eyes in the family.

[@michaelclentworth1283]

Stop spreading this bullshit!

[@carlinwaretini8529]

Who are these families? Now I've lived here my entire life thus far. 78 yrs.

[@metoosmath]

Rubbish

[@carlinwaretini8529]

@@deslynmcintyre3833 kaka 😂😂

[@jackwatson543]

I love these types of knowledgeable people

[@metoosmath]

Everything he's saying is completely wrong though

[@cheddarcheese8945]

Skeletons in the cubord

[@stephenhoward7454]

Go and see for yourself; Clements Rd - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series.

[@skydonsgamingtv4898]

Pre-maori are maori who are Polynesian who could build sailing boat that could carry 150 people and enough food and water to get to the next island

[@stephenphillips4984]

But the Maori themselves say that those in New Zealand before they arrived there were red haired white giants. So you contradict their legends.

[@ChurMyDog]

@@stephenphillips4984 evidence?

[@jeremybowden3134]

@@stephenphillips4984 So you believe in fairytales? 😮

[@robmarshall9204]

@@jeremybowden3134 You're still at it. Can you not accept that there is not and never was a race of people called Māori. This is a collective name given to different Polynesian tribes who made it from some mythological homeland to these shores. You are so knowledgeable in your so-called Māori history that was passed down by word of mouth, there being no written te Reo. Such history is fallible and replete with conjecture - and mythological creatures. WIll you not recognise the fact that when Tasman and Cook arrived in New Zealand, our ancestors were a stone-age peoples - many of them cannibals. The Europeans traded metal tools and arms with Māori, gave them the beginnings of a written language, which many Māori have since tried to misinterpret. They also bred with Māori, creating the genetically modified peoples now collectively called Māori. The Europeans have also given those of us with enough savvy the opportunity to make a success of life. My advice to you is to do what many of us have done - acknowledge your ancestry for what it really is and accept it as such. Get rid of your ignorance by gaining education and make a success of your life - or you will end up being the sorry-assed , bitter old man you have accused me of being. What a waste of a lifetime you will be. But you still have the opportunity to change that. For starters, lose your bitterness - it only brings sorrow. Kia Kaha.

[@jeremybowden3134]

@@robmarshall9204 Now I can agree with you on that as the label "maori" was given to tangata whenua by the pakeha because they were not intelligent enough to pronounce the names so many different tribes. Cherry picking certain fairytales for personal security is very entertaining as tangata whenua is so beyond people with an IQ below 24. But please continue as is give me my afternoon laugh before I have some crayfish. 😁

[@richardblackburn2016]

It's pretty easy if the Maori people are saying that they didnt build it. It's not theres then what do you say

[@Punkagonist]

I mean they were a pre stone age society until European trade.

[@moonuni]

Waves of migration leave holes in verbal history

[@Punkagonist]

@@moonuni waves leave holes in your vocabulary

[@moonuni]

@@Punkagonist haw haw 😂🤠 idjit who knows it all corruption of knowledge.

[@metoosmath]

When they're under sea water before the uplifting. Large abalone made those holes

[@giltee626]

There will always be detractors who'll laugh and say BS because they including maori Iwi and the government can’t accept that their accepted history that maori were the first might be wrong.

[@wendy-leemorrissirrom8636]

Yes people were here when Maori arrived. Why r the Maori so righteous about their being the owners of NZ. Let’s be truthful of the real, first people were here when they get arrived. Even there history says so.

[@TJL1093]

Can you show any observable evidence that Polynesian Maori weren't? Well let's be truthful, The Americans are righteous, But they arent indigenous? The British are righteous but they arent the first people, Heck South americans (Spanish), North Americans? White Africa? Germans? Polish? Asia( The mongol influence) Most of the modern day Egyptians are not even the Egyptians of old? The question is... How far in time do we judge what is... or who is the rightful people of the land?

[@ProLiberate]

​@@TJL1093 Why would it need to be 'observable' proof. It's in the oral history of Maori. Are you saying Maori oral history is bs?

[@robertjohn2109]

Our history says so?? Where? Oh our history as told by a white guy 😂😂😂 eeehhhh wrong try again.

[@kidslovesatan34]

​@@ProLiberateMaori people were the first people to settle New Zealand around 1250. There is zero evidence of anyone else before them.

[@jasonwatson2948]

What about the the kaimanawa wall??? It needs lydar to have a look at weather it could be a flat edge pyramid????

[@michaelclentworth1283]

The 'wall' is really a Oruanui eruption section of ingnimbrite.

[@stephenhoward7454]

@@michaelclentworth1283 Rhyolite. You have been lied too. Again more lies an amazing structure.

[@stephenhoward7454]

Scared media and government, go see for yourself; Clements Rd (12kms in approx. on the left) - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series.

[@bigvee401]

more like the top of a pyramid thats mostly buried

[@hiha757]

The thing about the Moriori arriving a couple of hundred years earlier has no basis in fact, it's a common misconception that was disproved in the 1970s - they were Māori who settled the Chatham Islands from mainland NZ, probably around 1500, and they underwent a cultural shift due to resource scarcity. Their language is a dialect of Māori most similar to the Ngāi Tahu dialect. They are genetically and culturally Māori and their early artefacts match those found on the mainland. There are definitely some interesting and tantalising clues that people may have at some point visited NZ prior to Māori settlement, but there is no solid evidence that anyone other than the ancestors of Māori settled here for long enough or large enough numbers to leave any evidence. Contrast this to the viking settlement sites in remote parts of Canada - despite them not having managed to successfully colonise North America there is still plenty of evidence for the handful of attempts that they made. Polynesian people are well known for erecting stone monuments similar to those of the neolithic period in Europe. There are some particularly impressive monuments in Tonga, for example, as well as the obvious Easter Island Maoi, and astronomically aligned monuments throughout western polynesia and micronesia. The artifacts, stone monuments and carvings shown aren't stylistically different to other Polynesian examples found elsewhere, which is why archaeologists don't view them as being evidence for a non-polynesian culture on their own. The whole idea that the archaeological community is taking part in a conspiracy to suppress knowledge for which evidence exists I find fairly unbelievable - archaeologists, and indeed any person who's gotten into a financially unrewarding profession, are doing the work mostly for the love of it, there is no incentive for them to hide things and indeed if there was any evidence contrary to the current understanding then surely they'd be all over it. I have copied and pasted this from another korero and its written by a white guy and its the most informed korero that I have ever come across.

[@keastymatthew2407]

Jesus get over it. The maaweeees were not the first here

[@slamyourheadin9449]

@@keastymatthew2407did a maori have sex with your wife or something?

[@PAGANONYMOUS]

Indo-Europeans got well past India. So it's not inconceivable that they skirted the coastline and found Australia and New Zealand exactly how the black fellas did.

[@fredcharmers196]

apparently only brown people can sail the Pacific?

[@mb68nz35]

Zero evidence puts your asses here before polynesians,

[@bonggoblin2473]

@@mb68nz35 Moriori were here first in the chatams i was pretty sure, the peaceful tribe that the taranki tribe sailed over and killed and ate most off in the 1800s, similar polynesian roots im pretty sure. also the egyptians had visited austalia and the aboriginals over there before christ so it wouldnt be to far of a stretch from a number of civilisations to have visited new zealand. there would be more evidence if it wasnt all put on a 50-100 year hold when found, some archealogical finds will become available in 2063.

[@mb68nz35]

@@bonggoblin2473 says also the egyptians had visited austalia and the aboriginals over there before chris REPLY: DEBUNKED NONSENSE.

[@mb68nz35]

@@bonggoblin2473 SAYS it wouldnt be to far of a stretch from a number of civilisations to have visited new zealand. REPLY: ZERO EVIDENCE supports that nonsense....

[@baydrixnewzealandwarrobotf2681]

What about the red headed ferry people that built the pyramids in Egypt? They had the same technology as the pre Maori occupation of Antartica! This for a fact is know in the Hatu Patu chronicles. Whats interesting is there is evidence that they were capable of interstellar travel! Those scrapes on the rocks were used to calibrate the flux capacitor from imploderfication of trymist thermo couplers from the hyper sensitivity array mounted on an out board residue manifold. Your yarns as good as mine.

[@rockholiday7344]

So these guys are building a hwy ,they dig up these round boulders with markings,and they just roll em out of way and leave them? TOY? Is that graffiti? On these ancient formations?

[@dwightstjohn6927]

sounds and looks like the highway dept. was in a hurry before they were stopped...........we have ancient sites right now on our Trans Canada and fortunately they were just a tad off the main roadway so we proceeded....

[@MasterChief37]

Because nobody expects to find any signs of pre Polynesian civilisation in NZ. There’s also no incentive to look into pre Polynesian civilisation as it would upset the Polynesians.

[@Zacaryquack]

​@@MasterChief37really ruins the whole indigenous claim, also backs the genocide theory

[@brendanwaters1416]

Maori of Ureweras were quick to exterminate the tribes red haired members .When they realised that they were people of an ealier culture .and its implications .

[@Fan_Made_Videos]

Is that like when the ancient "injuns" hired a bunch of mammoth to crush that small band of Solutreans so they could steal their technology? LOL

[@manamauri]

how do you know that? from what i know of my Tuhoe relations they are still there

[@ngatibroffessor1840]

Bullshit...citations required...in other words cite your sources.

[@fredcharmers196]

what's wrong with oral histories?

[@ChurMyDog]

Source?

[@torqingheads]

Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to shame in degeneration. Outcast during the 13th century as weaker primitive Neolithic people by the invading Hawaiians & Tongans (Maori were from the original wave of primitive Asian/Melanesians pushed right out across the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger more advanced races coming from the west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated up in NZ stranded for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language) were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The British then liberated the slaves and outlawed cannibalism. The northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede sovereignty completely and become citizens of Great Britain - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European (Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax & grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources - like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific yam. They ate out all the bird-life, didn't know how to farm the sea as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism. Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or 'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or experienced' is Fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of mixed-race imposters fetishing a false past bad history because it pays benefits. 'This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, "A Savage Country" Professor Paul Moon 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'Anthropology In The South Seas' - H D Skinner

[@eeeaten]

nope.

[@stephenhoward7454]

@@eeeaten Yes, the maori lineage was weaken over the course of 3,500+ years, we would presume by continual aggression. Their ancestors have a got to apologise for.

[@eeeaten]

@@stephenhoward7454 nope. what you have there is just a vague racist rant.

[@agee7777]

love how he says ireland

[@R2D2inAustralia]

I like genuine independent thinkers expressing their theories that fit better than the accepted narrative of formal teachings.

[@ngatibroffessor1840]

So you believe his pile of rocks equals CELTS? LOL thespinoff.co.nz/society/22-05-2017/the-white-tangata-whenua-and-other-bullshit-from-the-one-new-zealand-crew/

[@ngatibroffessor1840]

@Conor Ross PMSL...you think Ardern is communist? Funny I never heard her endorse Government ownership of the means of production. Oh btw that's communism you dumb fuck LOL

[@ngatibroffessor1840]

@Conor Ross says so you believe in Communist propaganda like the Māori being indigenous? REPLY: Its a fact buddy LOL Indiginous by right of discovery, habitation and occupation :)

[@ngatibroffessor1840]

@Conor Ross another skeletons in the closet alt-right douche bag LOL Where the so-called experts have NO relevant academic qualifications in the areas they claim to be experts in :)

[@ngatibroffessor1840]

@Conor Ross find a safe space snowflake LOL I see you're losing your shit PMSL LOL

[@FrancisMaxino]

I've seen exactly the same types of markings on stones in Scotland. There are also curious alignments and arranged stones on top of Banks Peninsula on the crater rim. I'm amazed no-one has noticed them, some of them line up perfectly with where the sun goes down behind the Southern Alps on the solstice.

[@regandunn4850]

I have seen things up there too

[@stephenhoward7454]

Scared media and government, go see for yourself; Clements Rd (12kms in approx. on the left) - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures, 4,000+ years old! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series. NZ history is thousand of years, not a few hundred. Heaps on KZbin on all of these, shame on you NZ (the land of the sheep). “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32

[@lindsayhorne1009]

I like his theories just one thing is a little off. 1000 years ago maori came isnt accurate this is approximately when Kupe was believed to have came. it is known in Polynesia Maui came before him. the descendants of Kupe breed with the people that were already here thus mixing blood. getting back to maori, maori is a word that was used to describe all tribes that had settled in nz pre the 16th-18th century not just the descendants of Kupe, this included the still living tribes that came before Kupe. in any case my point is that maori wasn’t just the descendants of Kupe it is all the living tribes when the name maori was first coined thus maori were here well before those rocks were placed.

[@eeeaten]

there's no evidence for any people in nz before about 1250AD. maui and kupe may have been real people but there's no evidence for either of them - they are mythical identities. everything doutre says is bs.

[@ecnegilletni3537]

@@eeeaten there is no physical evidence saying they didn't exist the only physical evidence they have of Abel Tasman arriving in Nz is his log book a story...... Maori believe kupe and Maui existed because of stories told by their ancestors.......why are those stories considered lies and Abel Tasman and Cook's stories considered truth when it's a known fact they lied in their documents upon arrival.

[@eeeaten]

@@ecnegilletni3537 hilarious

[@ecnegilletni3537]

@@eeeaten 👆here's a prime example of a sheep 🐑 only knowledge she has is what she Google's lol

[@eeeaten]

@@ecnegilletni3537 lol you're the one who gets his information from children's book authors (eg gabi plumm) and racist amateur historians (eg martin doutre) XD science shows you are wrong. there were no people in nz before the polynesian ancestors of maori began arriving from around 1250AD.

[@ashneelkumar777]

Somehow this guy relates these rocks to Europe..

[@calvinthomas1548]

Cause Europeans discovered everything.. Hmm🤔

[@michaelclentworth1283]

And he has absolutely no idea of what he's talking about.

[@brianmoir133]

I heard the Irish were also in Egypt building pyramids. amazing and all the way down here too. Irish the original kiwi. Give it back Maori. To bad didn't have crime watch back then

[@CharlesAmoroa]

Grow up

[@nospyingundercover6104]

well martin, I know for fact that in turangi Bush, many ancient pottery and ancient arrow heads, exsist, funny how that area is now a doc controlled block.

[@ngatibroffessor1840]

yeah bullshit.

[@ngatibroffessor1840]

Sure I do bro...all the evidence offered by Doutre is based on conjecture and speculation...he has zero evidence to support his many times over" debunked nonsense. Now if you have found what he couldnt...lets see it or shut the fuck up :) thespinoff.co.nz/society/22-05-2017/the-white-tangata-whenua-and-other-bullshit-from-the-one-new-zealand-crew/

[@kumarapatch1234]

alot of nz history has been hushed up for what reason i say

[@ngatibroffessor1840]

Peter...what history has been hushed up? Be more specific and offer proof...solid proof? not the conjecture and speculation from unsupported nonsense from Plummtree Productions and Its dodgy team of experts like Martin Doutre and Noel Hilliam both self acclaimed experts have connection to neo nazi's, both have no formal academic qualification in history or archaeology.

[@ngatibroffessor1840]

Go ahead and tell me your conspiracy theories? give me the reason why you think this is hushed up? LOL The Government is helping the Maaree people cover up the true history of NZ where Europeans discovered NZ not Polynesians? Go ahead and prove it....

[@korukiwiarts]

Thank you for sharing. I really enjoyed it. 💯

[@richardmunford9352]

Oh dear this will upset some people

[@stephenhoward7454]

Have you been down to Clements Rd - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver.

[@kidd2hoi524]

Alex Jones type conspiracy theories now

[@metoosmath]

The only difference between this and Alex's. Alex is always right and this guy is always wrong

[@kidd2hoi524]

@@metoosmath he wasn't right about Sandy Hook 🙄

[@MrNaysh]

How the hell could the Celts make it to NZ if they couldn't even make it to the Faroe Islands first? The Vikings beat them to it because they were a seafaring peoples reaching Iceland, Greenland and Newfoundland and Russia to the east. The Celts only known boat was a small boat the Currach to travel between the British Isles.

[@onepercenter13]

There are legends of sea faring Celts (St Brendan for example) but that's all they are

[@Motofanable]

Technically irish monks did settled Iceland and Faroe Islands, but otherwise you are right .Celts and NZ LOL

[@MrNaysh]

@@Motofanable The evidence is scant and ambiguous. Why don't they find bones or monasteries like on Skellig islands? I read a paper about a layer of burnt peat moss being evidence of their settlement from the University of Aberdeen. Can you smell bias there?Even close to home their already trying to stretch the truth.

[@jeremybowden3134]

They didn't. There is not a shed of evidence. All this comes down to is a lot of meth and a crazy imagination.

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

They didn't make it to NZ. Simple.

[@wallisphoto]

4:43 the holes are bedock mortars -you find them worldwide. Normally used for grinding food. The "prayer holes" are referred to as cupules and are much smaller than these.

[@rogercorbett122]

There are a lot of holes like that in boulders on the coast and in river beds - caused by pebbles rolling around in the current.

True..they can be found throughout the Scottish Highlands...but leave the man his theories (even though they are wrong...)

[@kiwidaniel3870]

He has no proof they're right just like you have no proof they're wrong... just enjoy the ride my friend and believe what you want. But dont put others down for believing different theories

[@clarkegilhooly9306]

He was just stating what he has seen.

[@catherinebell1498]

If I remember correctly there's holes like that in boulders in blackball

[@Slipperygecko390]

@@kiwidaniel3870 The proof that they are wrong comes from the fact that there is no sign of human activity like fire places, food scraps and tool making earlier than 1300. And believe me there would be a lot of these people supposedly lived here for the length of time that they did.

[@paorapomare4029]

The problem is that no adze or axe that would have been used to carve these stones has been found by QUALIFIED historians and archeologists in Aotearoa yet.

[@brucecollins4838]

agates stone will mark steal

[@sdratererehwyreve3423]

sand and water works, you dont need a stone tool exactly

[@davidteare4921]

brother explain how greenstone patu or taiaha were made greenstone is one ot the hardest stone to work

[@TJL1093]

@@davidteare4921 I think our Tohunga Whakaiiro had way's, What has puzzled me is that alot of Iwi in the north has taonga made from pounamu, that is traced back through the millennia, But the pounamu only comes from a pretty specific source...West Coast SI

[@PerryMarshallScott]

@@davidteare4921 : Theres video in TePapa of someone showing how it's done.

[@civproquestion7531]

While i appreciate when people are interested in the local history or pre history of the lands on which they live, i wish they’d learn to pronounce indigenous words using the correct indigenous language pronunciation.

[@fredcharmers196]

by indigenous, do you mean Te Reo? Indigenous means : "produced, growing, living, or occurring natively or naturally in a particular region or environment. " (Merriam Webster).

[@civproquestion7531]

@@fredcharmers196 I mean Indigenous. In the case of this video, the Indigenous words, or words of the Indigenous culture, would be Te Reo. But the syndrome is not confined to this video or to Aotearoa. You will find the same thing in Canada, India, South America.... Eurocentric individuals prioritizing their understanding of pronunciation due to an adopted anglicized spelling, and not attempting to seek out and use the form of the Indigenous pre-colonial culture.

[@fredcharmers196]

@@civproquestion7531 Te Reo is not part of an indigenous culture of Aotearoa. Does this mean anyone who can't speak a language should be prohibited from uttering words of that language completely? That would exclude a lot of people from using English, for example. But then even people who believe they can speak English will sometimes use English words (such as the word indigenous) without understanding what they mean at all. I would venture that intellectual snobbery does not improve wisdom, insight or understanding.

[@jeremybowden3134]

It's because he doesn't actually care about the indigenous of Aotearoa. He is just bent on disproving Maori were here first.

[@stephenhoward7454]

This not about "race" - we all came from the same boat! It is about a scared media and government, go see for yourself; Clements Rd (12kms in approx. on the left) - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures, 4,000+ years old! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series. NZ history is thousand of years, not a few hundred. Heaps on KZbin on all of these, shame on you NZ (the land of the sheep). “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32

[@mrivantchernegovski3869]

Wow never even noticed those boulders there at the lower domain by the bowling club lol walk past there all the time ,might go have a look tommorow

[@allgood6760]

I like his book Ancient Celtic New Zealand

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

Me too. though they could have printed it on softer paper. Somewhat rough on the arse.

[@allgood6760]

@@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653 His book is disappearing from library shelves and I certainly don't think Maori were here first. 👍🇳🇿

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

@@allgood6760 I stand up for your right to be ignornant.

[@michaelclentworth1283]

@@allgood6760 That's because it is a complete load of bullshit. The same as Maxwell Hill's books.

[@allgood6760]

@@michaelclentworth1283Not my experience considering there is a Stonehenge in the Waiarapa.🇳🇿

[@howdydoodey3872]

Concretions like these worldwide - no mystery.

[@markw2073]

This guy is a laugh. No proof just supposition. Those boulders have been moved and therefore have no context. Whatever is on them "if" caused by humans could have been done after they moved. He keeps on stating things like they are facts when they are not.

[@robmarshall9204]

@Mark W: You state that, "He keeps on stating things like they are facts when they are not." Do you know for a fact that they are not, or is this just your supposition?

[@jeremybowden3134]

Yes he is well known for his weird nutbar theories. He may not be good at archaeology but I bet he could play a good banjo

[@Dead_Empire]

Yeah those "drill holes" look like water could of cause it. New zealand has had millions of earthquakes pushing land upwards. If those boulders were on a hill its cause the basin they were in got pushed into mountians. I used to find seashells on top of a large hill in puketapu nz.

[@markw2073]

@@Dead_Empire Either erosion or - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacial_erratic. The seashells I'd need further context on, but fossil seashells are found on top of the Himalayas. It's called tectonic uplift. New Zealand would be under the waves without it - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_uplift#:~:text=Tectonic%20uplift%20is%20the%20geologic,is%20attributed%20to%20plate%20tectonics.

[@Dead_Empire]

@@markw2073 yeah this is what i mean, there old shells found in the sand about 80-120m from sea height.

[@bucyrusbe]

where is his map of arcane sites that he fingers willy nilly here there & everywhere over the landscape, what a genius, tragic more like it

[@michaelclentworth1283]

Said map does not exist. The same goes for his brain.

[@stephenhoward7454]

Scared media and government, go see for yourself; Clements Rd (12kms in approx. on the left) - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series.

[@stephenhoward7454]

@@michaelclentworth1283 Ad hominem. Directions as above. GPS doesn't work.

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

File under pseudoscientific claptrap.

[@stephenhoward7454]

Like the flat earthers? See for yourself; Try Clements Rd - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series.

[@Ls_da_world]

​@@stephenhoward7454Type out his name in google Martin Doutre...His theory of the wall has been debunked by experts

[@Ginlah]

I'm not convinced. You see all sorts of rock formations in the bush which can be caused by flowing water or harder rock grinding over a lot of time. I would like to hear what an objective geologist makes of those features, rather than Martin claim they're human made

[@adrianstreet2376]

They’re a rock that starts very deep below the surface and over thousands of years they’re pushed out like a pimple and that slowly turns them and rounds them. There’s some more on the South Island coast. I’m sure they’ve always been revered by people and I do believe there were other cultures in NZ before Māori so they might have used them for something but they didn’t make them

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

@@adrianstreet2376 Where is your evidence for "other cultures in NZ before Māori"?

[@stephenhoward7454]

@@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653 Everywhere, just we have 120 embargos placed by DOC - Waipoua Forest example.

[@stephenhoward7454]

See for yourself; Try Clements Rd - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series.

[@Basslessonsuk]

@@stephenhoward7454 So your evidence for pre-Māori civilisation in NZ is something you think DOC may have done, as opposed to archaeological evidence? Cretin.

[@ducemakapeluturvey9509]

Don't forget this is the guy who burnt down his own building and tried to blame the local Maori over a land dispute. Don't listen to him

[@user-fi4st7ni8r]

yeah, thats what you call a Psychopath.

[@darrellm9915]

No, that was Allan Titford.

[@ColinMarychurch]

My father dug these up with his trackstavator and the name of the Mow supervisor was Nick Botica

[@barnie171]

stone balls like that but smaller were found near stonehenge .the main archeologist there theorised they were for moving things in wooden channels . like ball bearings that reduce friction . stonehenge was thought to dated back to 12000bc ,before pyramids .

[@barnie171]

James Passmore he theorised how the stone blocks were moved by the balls as well as floating them from Wales ,where the type of stone is. yes its believed the stones were over balanced into the holes

[@onepercenter13]

@James Passmore but they would come in handy

[@drinkingup2157]

That theory came out in 2010 and had nothing really to do with Stonehenge , rather Exeter University. In fact none of the stone balls were found anywhere near Stonehenge and were only found in some areas in Scotland. The theory hasn't really gained much support since. You are a bit out with the Stonehenge date as the first stage of Stonehenge , the Aubrey holes are about 3000 BC , although there are 3 fairly close postholes that date to between 8500 to 7500 BC.

[@nospyingundercover6104]

I have personally seen arrowheads in a cave in waikaretu exactly the same as the red indians used

[@ngatibroffessor1840]

Pity all you have is hear-say and no actual evidence. which is typical of conspiracy theorists.

[@ngatibroffessor1840]

scared? LOL like I said, if you have any evidence worth piss lets see it m8 other wise shhhhhh

[@Damian-Church-NZ]

I found a 2 minute noodle wrapper in a cave at waihi, could have been ancient Chinese but I forgot to get it it carbon dated. but true story.

[@eltlaw]

All the good stuff happens when there's no one else to see it - or when ya'v left the phone in that car and can't take a photo. And it's getting dark, so next day ya can't find the stuff again because it was dark the last time.

[@Fan_Made_Videos]

arrowheads, spear points, canoes, bow & arrow. All can be found in every corner of the earth.

[@irondragon6423]

this guys blowing gas out of his hole

[@toddanderson7484]

why do I feel like the vast majority of people who believe this (none of it makes actual sense, certain designs are universal and the majority of evidence he has is very circumstantial) are just people who are bitter that the Maori have been winning in courts over land and treaty disputes. The people who believe this want to believe they have some sort of deeper tie to the land than the Maori because they want to feel special.

[@kiwidaniel3870]

I'm maori and I think this in incredibly interesting. So what does that make me?

[@SuperKiwifella]

Not Many Maoris have won anything in the land courts, sadly its just the 1% Maori elite who have 'won' as the other 99% are fatherless , live in areas full of crime, poverty & violence

[@drinkingup2157]

I understand that Martin Doutre does have connections with right wing groups in the US and it is quite clear that these claims are being used by some to try and deny Maori tangata whenua status.

[@hamishlast9127]

natural concretion moved via natural processors and well known by geologists. The rest is embarrassing

[@stephenhoward7454]

Darwin was a geologist, his theory is the greatest lie known. Although he was bemused how quickly the "scientific" community embraced the evolution theory with no chemistry conclusive evidence.

[@hamishlast9127]

@@stephenhoward7454 he was a botanist.

[@stephenhoward7454]

@@hamishlast9127 Charles Darwin received formal training in geology during his academic years. While studying at the University of Cambridge, Darwin had the opportunity to attend lectures on geology and was mentored by influential geologists of his time. One of his most significant mentors in the field of geology was Adam Sedgwick, a renowned geologist and professor at Cambridge. Darwin accompanied Sedgwick on a field trip to North Wales in 1831, just before embarking on his voyage on the HMS Beagle. This trip provided Darwin with valuable field experience and further deepened his understanding of geological processes.🤔🙂

[@thed3live]

Did they also make the Moeraki Boulders too?

[@eeeaten]

giants and aliens, sasquatch, nephilim, fairies, and moe the moehau monster.

[@michaelclentworth1283]

In a word, no.

[@stephenhoward7454]

Seen them composite rock. Try Clements Rd - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall all massive!

[@glennjbrown3388]

these are called pillow lavas, they arent human made and is best explained by a geologist, which this guy definately isnt

[@Naujarouss]

How come these stones are found all over the world?

[@CharlieHoliday369]

Anybody who think the Maori were the first humans EVER to set foot in N.Z are just completely disconnected with their intuition and common sense.

[@tearoabone9705]

I'll tell u something, if I were to find new lands an found nz as all you 70 percenters believe, I would have brung people back to this land to colonate, wouldn't you..?? These others you say would hava been able to travel from China Scotland Ireland through knowledge of these ocean currents that helped all ancient cultures like these awesome people iv said, including vikings berbers Japanese Micronesian etc great seafarers. As navigators of the sea it would hav been easy to trace back an forth to their homeland an Aotearoa.. We always travelled back a forth through out the lslands same with Polynesians.. U tell me why there was no returns on this migration use believe in.. Did they get lost? Die in this harsh climate? Died of starvation? To soft to live in this land of our ancient ones? What now u let me know something

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

I'll take logic, reason and, archaeological evidence and scientific consensus, thanks.

[@tawake7895]

@@tearoabone9705 the

[@stephenhoward7454]

Scared media and government, go see for yourself; Clements Rd (12kms in approx. on the left) - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series.

[@kingoftheworld53]

Apparently there is oxygen in Europe which mean Europeans must have been here well before the native cars and tvs

[@kimberleywilliams5228]

Aye there were people's there in N.Z - red heads with fair skin who were navigators throughout the pacific Islands they surveyed many lands and did leave markers ..old boy is onto something ,no disrespect to any just observations ...ex K.B.H.S from Graham Henry's days as principal ..

[@michaelclentworth1283]

If you're referring to the red headed Maori from Tuahiwi, then you have one of my mother's great uncles to thank for that.

[@stephenhoward7454]

This not about "race" - we all came from the same boat! It is about a scared media and government, go see for yourself; Clements Rd (12kms in approx. on the left) - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures, 4,000+ years old! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series. NZ history is thousand of years, not a few hundred. Heaps on KZbin on all of these, shame on you NZ (the land of the sheep). “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32

[@denyswoodroffe490]

there are a number of these sites in the far north.

[@Fan_Made_Videos]

Those balls aren't man-made. You can find examples from around the world near dormant and sometimes active volcanoes.

[@CaptainCalorie]

Nobody said they were man made! You missed the whole point.

[@drinkingup2157]

Ok, so how about explaining to us just how the Irish managed to get here 2000 years ago.

[@eeeaten]

shhh you just have to *believe* or the magic doesn't work...

[@lizclark8985]

Aliens!

[@peterpage9017]

Boat

[@mrkd5762]

Celts, not just Irish. Tocharians were Celts settled in China...

[@michaelclentworth1283]

@drinkingup2157 They never did.

[@raygorinski4422]

They were put there by auckland council a big bruha at the time, taken from another council

[@dash-kt7uf]

😂😂😂 you are probably a ram raider

[@Dave183]

Dna testing,,, of people buried- at the Wairau Bar, Marlborough showed a fairly diverse group of people. It was expected they, the first human arrivals would be fairly closely related. origins from Asia and South America- and a vast ocean in between.

[@eeeaten]

there's no evidence of early people from south america in new zealand. the first people were eastern polynesian only.

[@Dave183]

@@eeeaten here is some evidence that Polynesians reached South America- or at least traded sweet potatoes and poultry with South American people. Possible, too, to share some bloodlines. Not really plausible that individuals made the journey in one generation. DNA testing should eventually prove or disprove the contact theory.

[@eeeaten]

@@Dave183 yes dna shows no evidence of South American dna in Māori, or Polynesian dna in South America. Contact around 1100-1200AD resulted in some South American dna getting to Eastern Polynesia: Fatu Hiva and Easter island. Not to New Zealand, and not the other way - Polynesian dna in South America. Most likely this was the result of Polynesians reaching South America and taking people back, but other scenarios are possible. But Māori origins from south America? No. The first people of New Zealand were eastern Polynesian only.

[@stephenhoward7454]

DNA is an ultimate discovery. I had it done, my ancestors not as I thought. Waipoua Forest civilisation would be an amazing historical stone building structures society. Meantime; See for yourself; Try Clements Rd - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series.

[@Tera4m]

A part of me’s, a carbon copy of the origin Long White Cloud, ground plant olive in I opted not to set adrift like the colonist & let the Devil, settle in among the foreigners Threshold, tenfold, zero tolerance the negatives are only half of, what the problem is I'm a spark, where the charge become positive like Halley's comet, drop bombs on the hominid The type of men who pay homage to, an obelisk congressmen who lead a vote, of no confidence the politics, that never tell it like a prophet did & let decisions split the conscious like the continent I stay on top with an extinction of the dominant where option is, keep it discreet & anonymous an optimist who weighed it up without an opposite to conquer it, & leave it broken with the promises

[@CaptainCalorie]

You make ZERO sense. You can't even put a sentence together properly.

[@Tera4m]

@CaptainCalorie: I'm not ignorant, I drink blood of the innocent like the remission of sin, is my equivalent sworn citizen, then cash dividend as in the business of eliminating immigrant Pay no attention to the killing of indigenous as if I give a shit, like,, Indian givers did I know the benefits of hanging, where a nigga did the privileges that let you walk it like a hypocrite I’m not entirely convinced they get, the gist of it I keep the Eye of Ra, crystal in a pyramid & give a more vivid description then, the picture did here where the heir to thrones, a little more legitimate I know the difference in the spectrum is significant I had to walk it like a beast, to reposition it to hack at tablet like the hand, had overwritten it & offer it like Godly knowledge, to the primitive

[@ev9408]

@@Tera4m you're a brilliant poet. I'm not being facetious.

[@Tera4m]

@@ev9408: The Book of Terra😜 I gotta sum it up, just enough to make me confess I’ve been condemned with Eye of Rā like it’s a Godsend Godlike particle in earth context, where Rutherford understood that I'm,, the concept That kept the content coated in a darker black so it can only bare resemblance of, an aftermath paint a stigma, that’s attached like it’s,, a heart attack & left DaVinci’s antimatter hack an artefact I turn back on the Vatican beast, turn back false practice like the Catholic priest with the deceit that led to lack of belief, to let Sigmund Freud disjoint the mind with pattern of sleep I speak tongue that’ll physically break any fake accusation that's, officially made I'm wide awake where, your conspiracy ain't & see through, Nostradamus like,, the critic acclaimed

[@Tera4m]

@@ev9408: I death defy, & stay fly where there aren't flaws, don't need Achilles heel no more type of dark horse, I lay dormant with the horsemen as a task force, that put to sword with Isaac Newton in a Past Law, Fully endorse the pain receptors like Mr Ree, & never known fear apart from God of history, that leave you hanging there to execute Divinity, or be deceived like Darwins beast at the epitome, Bittersweet I only serve it as the main course, as in food for thought imbedded like a claymore, I let that loop & oscillate there in a waveform, as relativity where Einsteins brainstormed, I only tap into the source as in the ownership, not what the thought was before apple had awoken it, but put in motion like approach was in a Rosen bridge, like Tesla Terra-Bytes the only way to open it

[@seapeoples9461]

The round balls are completely natural.

[@Supergringodftc]

BRMS are found everywhere around the world not sure what the connection to Ireland would be.🤷🏻

[@dash-kt7uf]

Another Māori thief

[@paorawhen842]

Hey uncle Martin you still creating hoax stories with all you buddies haha love you

[@3rty7]

Māori are Tangata Whenua ☝️ 😎

[@beautifulkaya3693]

Trying to override the whakapapa of tangata whenua.... Good luck with that

[@EmpireOfPanmure]

Okay half-caste.

[@ChurchInAshes]

Got anything besides an emotional argument?

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

@@ChurchInAshes Yep. Peer-reviewed archaeological papers based on evidence presented to and accepted by the scientific community.

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

@@EmpireOfPanmure Knobhead.

[@2wahineandadog]

@@EmpireOfPanmure You blatant racist!

[@honekarena2184]

Land of the long white gouge

[@tearoabone9705]

Awesome bro, keep showcasing our Maori history brother, thank you for sharing our ancient ways... Its OK you doubt its Maori but you know your truth is making you realise that yes, that it was Maori.. Don't h8 love

[@stormbringerseven8288]

Hate? LOL.

[@anthonycampbell1366]

After much study into original tribes rock art and glyphs around the world much of the lines and grids on rocks in NZ are much earlier than Maori and why can some tribes whakapapa back 167 generations with DNA to prove it, over 2000 yrs. Mapping the ley lines of NZ charting the stars Egyptians were in Aussie 4500 yrs ago maybe how kiore got here 2200 yrs ago carbon dated.

[@eeeaten]

there's no evidence of people in new zealand before around 1250AD, carbon dating or dna or otherwise. carbon dating shows kiore in nz no earlier than that. your information is out of date.

[@anthonycampbell1366]

@@eeeaten B's mate 185000 yrs in Australia Egyptians there 4500 yrs ago explains Maui and rock glyphs do some real research. Here's one to look up artifacts with metals not on our periodic table or DNA not known to man.

[@anthonycampbell1366]

Go back to sleep and take your vaccine

[@eeeaten]

@@anthonycampbell1366 no, that is made up fantasy nonsense.

[@anthonycampbell1366]

@@eeeaten so Maori are lieing about it then is what you're saying and have no memory from where they came from originally most pacific Islanders NZ Born Don't call themselves Maori, oh woke reality

[@jetdog3246]

The aliens brought lasers from Neptune to make the rock spheres

[@kiwidaniel3870]

Finally! Someone who gets it

[@Damian-Church-NZ]

i was going to say at least these guys arn't roaming the streets causing shit.... but they are...

[@Bushmaoritings]

The ancestors that you’re trying to discover are still here . The Colonisers have tainted the maori people & our hitori , kaore au e mohio why they keep demeaning us as a people & By watching this video the knowledge that white man seek are not theirs for the taking . Hence why our ancestors hid it away from your people , because everything you seek , you destroy.

[@darkcrystal438]

No - the maori people tainted the people here before - the maori stole the tatoo and carving techniques, the greenstone relics, the dance and the song… none of that belongs to Maori.

[@eeeaten]

@@darkcrystal438 ridiculous. the polynesian ancestors of maori brought tattoo with them - you can trace it throughout the pacific. there were no people in new zealand before the polynesian ancestors of maori began arriving from around 1250AD.

[@Bushmaoritings]

@@darkcrystal438 okay & the white man stole the lands from the Maori who have been preoccupying for generations beyond eons so. If you wanna start with the stealing let’s look at yesterday’s history , or last weeks history or 100 years ago history , because tryna state back facts from 1000s of years ago where you don’t even know your own whakapapa where we know our own says a lot . So please in the future don’t say maori stole anything because if we’re talking about stealing anything cultural wise & people wise, the real culprits are living & thriving within a lie that gets carried through that coloniser mindset.

[@ChurchInAshes]

@@Bushmaoritings Actually we signed the treaty of Waitangi on the 6 February 1840, you should look it up. Land was not stolen it was exchanged for goods.

[@Bushmaoritings]

@@ChurchInAshes actually no the tiriti o waitangi wasn’t a deal for lands to be exchanged remember that is was to keep the peace of both nations because of the land wars , when really white people had no place being here in the first place it was greed & money that colonised my people 💁🏾‍♀️, so please before you try rule me with “facts” at least have first hand experiences & receipts 💁🏾‍♀️’

[@robertfisher736]

Does anyone no what lookout they were standing on and the end of clip ?

[@peterwharehoka9842]

2019. Pakeha still angsty about not being here first.

[@archaicgoon5990]

No but neither were the Maoris, that's the issue.

[@peterwharehoka9842]

@@archaicgoon5990 Cling to your myth #frozen

[@archaicgoon5990]

@@peterwharehoka9842 Dude, the earth is millions of years old, lol. Moaris came around 1200AC Lol!

[@archaicgoon5990]

@@peterwharehoka9842 FYI, Humans Are way older than you think buddy.

[@peterwharehoka9842]

@@archaicgoon5990 Yawn, Aotearoa was the last inhabited land mass, ironically when Maori arrived. Here first.

[@sovereignbeing8530]

Those rocks need go back 2 Silverdale wear thay came from and move the moterway in stead...?

[@markeddowes1467]

YOU ARE DREAMING MATE! Te tupuna Maori noa te tangata matamua ki Aotearoa......

[@stephenhoward7454]

Your maori ancestors were not the first peoples in New Zealand, (see orgins of the word Aoteroa), they spent 3,500 years adrift. Lose your pride(the fall of satan). This not about "race" - we all came from the same boat! It is about a scared media and government, go see for yourself; Clements Rd (12kms in approx. on the left) - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures, 4,000+ years old! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series. NZ history is thousand of years, not a few hundred. Heaps on KZbin on all of these, shame on you NZ (the land of the sheep). “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32

[@PrepperKiwi]

The secrets are in language and customs. Notice how he said the church adopted bowls, notice how the Maori word for sun is the same in ancient Egypt, notice how July is named after Julias Cesar, notice how the cross the pope clutches is the same cross of life the Hieroglyphs show. We must look in the words and actions to see who once walked with us. Look quietly

[@eeeaten]

Language and customs show Māori come from eastern Polynesia, the western pacific before that. Science also shows this. Science shows the first people of nz were the eastern Polynesian ancestors of Māori.

[@stephenhoward7454]

@@eeeaten Incorrect see; Refer to evidence presented by :Skeletons in the Cupboard" - banned by NZofAir because it does not fit the paradigm. “I said in my haste, All men are liars.” Psalms 116:11 Continue in the pursuit of Truth do not be persuaded. “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32 “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:8

[@eeeaten]

@@stephenhoward7454 banned because it's fantasy nonsense. the rest of your post is religious drivel. are you drunk?

[@Slipperygecko390]

Yes there is a link through Ancient Egypt and Polynesia, coming from Maori leaving Taiwan 4000 years ago. Its much older than you realise and has nothing to do with celts or anyone else being here in NZ beforehand. Maoris ancestors had links to Egypt and the middle eastern sights like the Indus valley. Nothing to do with celts mate.

[@Slipperygecko390]

@@stephenhoward7454 Yes skeletons in the cupboard is a lie.

[@sasman1peterson834]

And you are the only one that knows everything .About Maori history . My grandmother told me that white man will try and change our history our teaching I am 60yrs old now that was told to me when I was 10yrs old and that was told by her mother when she was 10yrs old my has now pass on she was 83 when she pass

[@viviennetobassa7111]

She was right... they did and they have for many thousand years. It was called Patriarchal inquisition.

[@raeputakdyer-tutai3186]

These are pre fleet settlements ,found by the first Polynesian from the first Dynasty,,,Papa,Tangaroa,Tangaroa,Tanaloa

[@eeeaten]

the "fleet" theory is debunked fantasy from pakeha ethnographer percy smith. the first people of nz were the eastern polynesian ancestors of iwi maori. the only people in new zealand until cook's arrival were eastern polynesian. where do you think this "first dynasty" were from? that sounds made up.

[@raeputakdyer-tutai3186]

@@eeeaten only from university,,,,but the Raitea

[@eeeaten]

@@raeputakdyer-tutai3186 your response does not seem to be at all related to my comment and question.

[@raeputakdyer-tutai3186]

Fleet mission commissioned councils of tribes settlement on Raiatea,also canoe building and school of navigation here fleet assembled to search for the Matua clans who escaped after murdering several high chief at a tribal ui hui ,meetings ....

[@eeeaten]

@@raeputakdyer-tutai3186 incoherent sorry

[@billionear]

Makes good sense up the Irish!! they love partaetoes as well just like the horis do

[@Ls_da_world]

This guy should called out for all the bullshit he's been spreading. Google his name find out for yourself.

[@fideluna]

So much bulls thats laughable

[@metoosmath]

He should learn to say Ireland

[@JA.MMP274]

What a joke anything to discredit Maori.

[@robmarshall9204]

@ JA: In what way does this information discredit Maori? It is stated by many Maori that they arrived here somewhere between 600 and 1,000 years ago (none being sure of the exact time) and that there were no other inhabitants. Do you mean that, because some Maori assert that they were the first inhabitants of New Zealand, they are now being discredited. If this is so, then those Maori only have themselves to blame. What is most naive, in fact bordering on the ridiculous, is to assert that these islands were never inhabited by any other peoples during the preceeding 4,000 - 6,000 years. Ignorance can be cured by knowledge, but there is no cure for idiocy.

[@jeremybowden3134]

@@robmarshall9204 Lies. Show me where maori said they came here around 600 to 1000 years ago? 🤣🤣🤣

[@robmarshall9204]

@ JA: If you cannot surf the internet yourself, there is nothing more I can say that will enligjhten you. Go well.

[@jeremybowden3134]

@@robmarshall9204 Sorry but it shows nothing of what you say anywhere. So all it comes down to is lies. I think you need to learn about the history of New Zealand as you look rather weird to everyone else who actually live here.

[@robmarshall9204]

@@jeremybowden3134 : I am a Kiwi and according to your mindset, you would probably designate me as a racist, which is the common response in NZ for those who hold different opinions to Māori, even when they might have a drop or two of Māori blood. Hope you got your shot of Covid vaccine, bro!

[@jimbajacamper2435]

Sling shot ball leftover from the Giants ! 😊

[@eeeaten]

cave trolls and hobbitses?

[@jimbajacamper2435]

What does that mean,?​@eeeaten

[@eeeaten]

@@jimbajacamper2435 it means if you believe that nonsense about giants, you'll believe absolutely any made up fairytale nonsense.

[@Fonthandler]

Old fulla needs to take his meds. Hes a crazy old man. 😂

[@markeddowes1467]

Not convinced....highly unlikely.

[@ricklaw7633]

what a load of rubbish lol

[@jasonkennedy1670]

Costa Rica and Serbia have these large manufactured stone spheres and megalithic walls also geo transduction tech that should be emitting a signature frequency

[@martynhoward4287]

Absolute nonsense, this story has been long debunked

[@skydonsgamingtv4898]

This guy? Just look around the Pacific rim and all of Polynesia, Micronesia and melonesia. Its all there in some form. Austronesians from Taiwan.

[@jmjm1920]

We don't speak Chinese lol

[@skydonsgamingtv4898]

@@jmjm1920look up Austronesian people

[@claudeschaumkell6514]

No fool like an old fool

[@stephenhoward7454]

How about; “I said in my haste, All men are liars. Pslams 116:11 - we have bee lied too!! The scared media and government, go see for yourself; Clements Rd (12kms in approx. on the left) - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures, 4,000+ years old! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series. NZ history is thousand of years, not a few hundred. Heaps on KZbin on all of these, shame on you NZ (the land of the sheep). “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32

[@johnrere5048]

Mate they come from rangitoto volcano

[@eeeaten]

nope.

[@nrskyline27]

I've seen alot of these rocks before and also created them whilst operating excavators with rock breakers moving rocks with the pick of the breaker cuts lines and groves that marks the stone an hammering it without breaking the rock leaves nice round shallow pockets in them just my opinion

[@stephenhoward7454]

This is about a scared media and government, go see for yourself; Clements Rd (12kms in approx. on the left) - Kaimanawa "wall" - take a look it'll make you shiver. Split Apple Rock and Nelson Sea wall are all massive structures, 4,000+ years old! Forget the paradigm forced on you, stand up for Truth. See; 'Skeletons in the Cupboard" series. NZ history is thousand of years, not a few hundred. Heaps on KZbin on all of these, shame on you NZ (the land of the sheep). “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32

[@moonuni]

When you have your eiro googles on and vall it truth .although there are oddity s and oddments out there in the landscape

[@yep9657]

Crazy how racism can drive one person to try so hard to disprove and discredit non European achievement and ingenuity.

[@bigvee401]

the facts are everywhere Europeans explored the the darker skin folk had already been living there in some cases for thousands of years, an interesting fact is white people evolve from dark skinned people lol

[@yep9657]

@@bigvee401 “evolved” is incorrect

[@winstonmakoare4969]

Very informative information very knowledgeable

[@eeeaten]

it's complete bollocks

[@winstonmakoare4969]

Do you really think he's bollocks it sounds kinda logical tho

[@eeeaten]

@@winstonmakoare4969 he's an unqualified kook who's been making this nonsense up to undermine maori as the first people of nz for decades. science and archaeology show the first people of nz were the polynesian ancestors of maori who started arriving from around 1250AD. this loon makes money selling books to racists.

[@hardtohandleweddingbandent8653]

@@winstonmakoare4969 Logical until you start reading articles on NZ archaeology, which I suggest you do.

[@michaelclentworth1283]

@@winstonmakoare4969 The tone of your statements indicates that your intelligence level is way lower than mine.