Ancient Technology Podcast - Aswan Scoop Marks and Stone Softening | Marcell Fóti

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@chrislynn8689
@chrislynn8689 3 ай бұрын
Very Interesting! Great Discussion again Karoly! Keep it up!
@MarcusCicero1
@MarcusCicero1 4 күн бұрын
These guys are idiots
@energ8t
@energ8t 3 ай бұрын
Whether you agree with this theory or not, he did an excellent job putting his theory into a site for reference. I think more people should do that as it is very easy to compare and revisit. Great job.
@sameersheriff7078
@sameersheriff7078 3 ай бұрын
Is it possible to reverse engineer those lost technologies in the future ?
@PaulBrown-uj5le
@PaulBrown-uj5le 3 ай бұрын
@sameersheriff7078 there are no lost tec the way this guy puts it, only thing lost is half his brain.
@sameersheriff7078
@sameersheriff7078 3 ай бұрын
@@PaulBrown-uj5le c'mon our ancestors were quite advanced as well don't tell me ur among those who believe cavemens and flinstones built pyramids and Stonehenge !!!!🤣
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 2 ай бұрын
@@sameersheriff7078 No question it's possible. Sometimes perplexing enduring mysteries have surprisingly simple explanations. Are you familiar with the Cali, Death Valley rock "race track" that everyone scratched their heads over for a century that was solved recently?
@abba95521a
@abba95521a 2 ай бұрын
@@sameersheriff7078 imho, yes. but " mainstream" science and acadamia won't support it, so this sort of research is pretty much limited to lone individiduals pursuing an idea/their passion. just the info in this video, if properly researched and funded, has the capacity to upset soooo many applecarts among the conventional antrhopological/archaeological narrative/wisdom.
@langobard5546
@langobard5546 2 ай бұрын
Why then are there unfinished statues and obelisk in quarrys if they could cast them in place?
@Alfred-Neuman
@Alfred-Neuman 2 ай бұрын
🤫 Shhhhht!!
@TheMassive_0
@TheMassive_0 2 ай бұрын
@@Alfred-Neuman Yeap, and the video started from that unfinished obelisk, so they started it with the wrong foot
@Ephalim
@Ephalim 2 ай бұрын
Very good question!
@PaxAlotin-j6r
@PaxAlotin-j6r 2 ай бұрын
*Langobard* Quote --- _'Why then are there unfinished statues and obelisk in quarry's if they could cast them in place?'_ Ancient Egypt lasted well over 3000 years. Over that time techniques came & went - were lost or fell into disuse. After Romans stopped casting Bronze it was nearly a 1000 years for us to rediscover the technique. Likewise Concrete - was lost to us, until its reinvention in the 1750's -- That was a gap of over 1,300 years & yet even now - we still can't match the durability of Roman concrete. Romans - Greeks & Egyptians made glass - yet China couldn't create it. Similarly - China invented Gun Power & that took well over a 1500 years for it to travel to the Western world.
@jamesrice4839
@jamesrice4839 2 ай бұрын
Okay in the video he mentions two ways they altered stone. 1 the used water glass and ash to created the polymer. To get the scoop marks or to retrieve water glass they used natron and coal. It’s possible that the later generations assumed as we do that they produced monument the hard way because the method was lost or abandoned. Therefore the obelisk in the ground was an attempt to mimic previous construction without realizing that’s not how they did it and abandoned it there because they couldn’t figure out how to transport it. I’m just steel manning his argument here not accepting it as empirical evidence.
@alicet8791
@alicet8791 3 ай бұрын
"2 Hungarian guys trying to speak English" 😄 You two did a good job with this interview. Interesting theory.
@alexanderstrelnikov
@alexanderstrelnikov 3 ай бұрын
Dont mock them for the english, they are actually good at this.
3 ай бұрын
@@alexanderstrelnikov thank you guys
@franciscorompana2985
@franciscorompana2985 3 ай бұрын
@@alicet8791 I like good English. Good job. I lived in the US. 🇵🇹
@rebjorn79
@rebjorn79 3 ай бұрын
@@alexanderstrelnikov He's actually just quoting them and giving them some credit. 32:27
@zsoltcsaba3086
@zsoltcsaba3086 2 ай бұрын
A gránitnál a kőmorzsoló reagens a megoldàs, a mészkőnèl a vízüveg. Csak magyarul fejthető meg a hieroglif írás.
@richvandervecken3954
@richvandervecken3954 3 ай бұрын
To the two men who had the conversation and chose to share it with us thank you for being willing to think outside of traditional thought! Only by looking at puzzles from different angles can a solution be discovered! I would evaluate any actual points or arguments for insights that maybe didn't occur to you and press on. All great ideas and breakthroughs in human history were initially met with skepticism and ridicule. This is just the forge of purification to burn off concepts that cannot withstand scrutiny. Empierical testing of the idea combined with numerous failures teaches us what does not work. Most men in history who achieved anything worth knowing by being stubbornly persistent seeking an answer to a question.
@johnkemas7344
@johnkemas7344 2 ай бұрын
Water glass or Sodium Silicate (readily available, easy to make) has been used for many years by machinists and metal casters to make removeable mold cores with fine sand. After you form it to make the cores, you expose it to Carbon Dioxide and it turns very solid and hard instantaneously. After casting the metal, the water glass cores can be easily washed out or the interior pockets of the casting with water quite quickly.
@richvandervecken3954
@richvandervecken3954 3 ай бұрын
I read through about the first dozen comments and was amazed by how closed minded most of the comments were! Many comments appeared to be completely oblivious to the fact that these two men are speaking in a langauge that is not there native langauge. Most of these critic's probably only speak english and have either never been to a foriegn country or they are so arrogant that they expect everyone in the world to speak in their language. I will tell you what I perceive this man is saying. He discovered a method to make granite pliable using materials that ancient peoples had access to. He also stated that he doesn't claim to know the exact formula or process that they used. How hard would it be once the granite was pliable to mix it with other pliable substances and get a composite that matches what exists at these sites? If I remember basic chemestry in order to blend a homogenous mixture from two ingredients they simply need to have similar melting points. Now I am no geologist but I would guess that all granite regardless of color has a similar melting point. As far as the molds go it seems reasonable to presume that using sand molds similar to casting metal would do the job nicely. A scientific mind would get to work trying to prove or disprove it and not nit pick a non native english speakers inability to communicate his idea into your langauge!
@Davidrcobb
@Davidrcobb Ай бұрын
I read through the comments as well. I didn't see anyone mocking them. One guy quoted them and gave them credit for a great show. Is it possible you may be getting outraged for no reason?
@Rocksider2525
@Rocksider2525 Ай бұрын
Agree to a point. The whole world doesn't speak English. I can work with this.
@bhijer6457
@bhijer6457 20 күн бұрын
right and wrong, it may not be their mother tongue but it seems they manage well words such as stupid and other belittling one's....and at the end it is really difficult to follow this interview, they should have done it in their language. the translators work really well nowadays. every theory is good to hear, at least once! The problems highlighted about the stones in Egypt are more their transportation means and the tools used to carve them. this theory raises so many more issue than solve them... I have a hard time integrating this theory into the framework of Egyptology. However, it remains an innovative solution for the creation of megalithic works
@nestaismail9189
@nestaismail9189 18 күн бұрын
It amazes me how you described yourself in a nutshell.
@erichter66
@erichter66 2 ай бұрын
This was one of the most interesting podcasts I ever heard. Can’t wait for the follow-up.
2 ай бұрын
@@erichter66 thanks 🙏
@Beljasion
@Beljasion 3 ай бұрын
If the product mentioned does in fact allow you to melt that type of granite at 800 celcius it appears the answer is staring everyone in the face. They forgot one thing they also had. Dolarite balls. Melting temperature of them is 1200 celcius. That removes the ploblem of the flame blowing it away. Spread the powder over the Granite, heat Dolrite (or whatever those so called pounders are), to hign temperaure with blast furnace then put them on the Granite that was prepared and watch melt and scoop out whats melted. Food for thought and if the waste was usable that would explain why there isn't any large stockpiles of it.
@yoxat1
@yoxat1 3 ай бұрын
1200 C. Huge stones. Transported from quarries, furnaces?
@GroberWeisenstein
@GroberWeisenstein 3 ай бұрын
@Beljasion there are many problems with this in practice. When using thermal technologies with stone, many different reactions are happening in succession along this spectrum from cold starting temperature to eventual melting of stone into liquid form. It is extremely challenging to melt a mass of stone unless it's placed in a cauldron. I use various thermal technologies to etch, finish, texture, and carve granite, including cutting deep channels in the quarry. Even using my largest most aggressive torch, which burns up to 3,000 degrees centigrade, *melt pooling* is difficult to achieve. The stone surfaces fracture and spall violently into chards and disintegrate into powdered sand. A mass of this debris has loft and stubbornly resists melting because of low thermal conductivity.
@PaulBrown-uj5le
@PaulBrown-uj5le 3 ай бұрын
@Beljasion who the hell is melting granite back then?, are you effing serious lol, there's exactly 0 evidence for any of what he says it's all talk to make money.
@PaulBrown-uj5le
@PaulBrown-uj5le 3 ай бұрын
@GroberWeisenstein and where are all these "lost technologies" then, I'll tell you it's in these con artists heads.
@GroberWeisenstein
@GroberWeisenstein 3 ай бұрын
@@PaulBrown-uj5le there's lots of evidence of glazing vitrification that results from various thermal methods, one being firesetting..
@strykerjones8842
@strykerjones8842 3 ай бұрын
6:49 I have to make a correction to this statement. Water Jet cutting uses abrasive materials, typically agate.
@thetruenolan6655
@thetruenolan6655 3 ай бұрын
I think that the geopolymers were used to cast large stones, but there is evidence that they also had a more liquid version used for "polishing" surfaces. If you look closely at the lids of the Seraphium boxes, they are glossy. Some people have said they look as if the surface was melted -- but if you look at the lower edges you may notice some drips. Not viscous drips like melted stones, but smaller drips, the kind you would get if you use a geopolymer varnish. The same polish is seen in Peru, and when a flake of the polished surface was examined, it was an aluminum-silicate polymer.
@emmanuelroy1608
@emmanuelroy1608 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting, thank you for that. You should get in touch with professor Joseph Davidovits, he is the word expert on geopolymer. He also demonstrated in his books how they did it in ancient time. And did a real successful experiment in France a decade ago. I think they created 5 blocks out of geopolymer, a tonne each. For me it is not so much the material that is a question anymore, it's more the complexity and the precision of these buildings. We are talking about millimeter precision on hundreds meters scale, and blocks that can weigh tonnes. And as far as I know, I printed the first geopolymer house with modern equipment of course, and we were far from the precision of the pyramids. Thanks again, you guys have an amazing accent 😉
3 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🤗
@courtneyturner5083
@courtneyturner5083 2 ай бұрын
he just published a new KZbin video (last week) showing how granite stone was made in addition to hard vases.
@waynecooper6124
@waynecooper6124 3 ай бұрын
Natron is another name for sodium carbonate: a relatively strong base but somewhat weaker than lye (sodium hydroxide). Quartz is also the main component of glass. Heating glass with a strong base - even at temperatures far less than 800 degrees C - will even corrode lab glass. So, there is some potential merit to this guy's theory. Consider that the natron in ancient times would have been crude. If obtained via evaporation, as suggested here, there would also have been sodium chloride (salt) and phosphates like sodium phosphate that solidified with the natron upon evaporation. That said, if the purpose of this natron was to degrade or dissolve granite, the presence of either salt or phosphates may actually be beneficial to their task. Indeed, one of the ways hobbyists etch glass is with phosphoric acid. At increased temperatures, phosphate salts might do the trick by themselves or amplify the power of the natron significantly; possibly by the formation of a third substance from the heat induced reaction between natron, salt, phosphates, carbon dioxide and ash (which contains Potassium). Food for thought so I'll keep this short.
@alejandromoralesgonz
@alejandromoralesgonz Ай бұрын
Thanks for this information.
@jolimerius3462
@jolimerius3462 3 ай бұрын
what about the wood quantity required to make all this charcoal ? how much forest have you to burn to remove so much stone layer after layer ?
@Fgway
@Fgway 3 ай бұрын
Some say the potassium craze in "new world" america was an example of what happens. Parallel story but similar. On the other hand he has been investigating what crops would provide the right mix of minerals in its ash. I believe he's found that resinous crops serve best aside from resinous trees. There are melted stones in Europe from where earth kilns were fueled by such things like grouse which are very resinous and smoulder well over long periods.
@dans4125
@dans4125 3 ай бұрын
you dont need charcoal. egyptians had access to large amounts of bitumen, a natural petroleum oil stone compound. was used in lots of things in ancient times including waterproofing, especially in this area of the world at that time
@NEKRWSPHERE
@NEKRWSPHERE 3 ай бұрын
This is the number 2 reason why all the "Egyptians melted it" hypotheses fall apart. Number 1 reason being the massive amount of wood needed to make all kinds of differently shaped molds (which incidentally makes the "it's all cement" hypotheses fall apart as well). And where are any of the remains of these crates? Where are any remains of "water glass" or charcoal embedded in any of the quarry rocks? Are there any chemical markers for those near the "scoop marks" at Aswan? Where are parts of those bellows? When you cast something like those perfectly flat boxes at the Serapeum, - how exactly are those surfaces more than 100 times smoother than the wooden walls of any modern crate? How do they get the bubbles out thousands of years before vacuum technology, because no split Egyptian stone ever had a single bubble (which would have been a telltale sign of molding)? Has there been even one gypsum (or any other material) casting crate for any statue found? Why not? Whoever thinks the host was "provocative" is delusional. Any Egyptologist worth his degree would make this dude's dominoes fall apart very quickly. Gosh, even the people like UnchartedX could probably pick holes in this idea very quickly.
@ToxiCom-777
@ToxiCom-777 3 ай бұрын
Why do you think Egypt is now a desert ? LOL
@ToxiCom-777
@ToxiCom-777 3 ай бұрын
Jeff Drum / LAND OF CHEM proposes Great Pyramid generated Methane from cattle dung. Would that suffice?
@islandmonusvi
@islandmonusvi 3 ай бұрын
Kudos to the Interviewer…thoughtful and provocative…
3 ай бұрын
Thanks a million! 🙏
@abefroman5191
@abefroman5191 Ай бұрын
An engineering professor at Derexel University says that some but not all stones have been poured. You can observe the particulate flow from the pour. It's certainly a good idea.
@kateS72
@kateS72 3 ай бұрын
It’s extremely promising for research to see people of such diverse horizons throw their intelligence and “out of the box” approach to figuring things out. Thank you BOTH!!!!
@olddanb1
@olddanb1 2 ай бұрын
A perfect example of the process of Argument. Argument does not mean to shout. It means to argue your point against another. By speaking your argument. Where sometimes to argue your point more strongly, you sometimes accept parts of the other argument to help explain your own. Thank you gentlemen. A real pleasure to engage with. Well done both.
2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! 🙏
@lastnamefirst2442
@lastnamefirst2442 2 ай бұрын
Well said now I'm going to need your phone number so you can tell MY WIFE that , during the next (shouting match) I mean argument 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@olddanb1
@olddanb1 2 ай бұрын
@lastnamefirst2442 Superb. Love it. BUT. . . You've left the door WIDE open for one of best one liner returns known to man since the invention of the telephone. 😁 Here goes. "She's already got it."🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Heh heeeey. Beeeyoodiful. I couldn't resist. Well intended, and just for the fun of it. I thought your response was excellent. All the best. Don.
@aaronlarsen7447
@aaronlarsen7447 3 ай бұрын
With the etching method, i can see etching a large block and breaking away the etched material to reveal a more manageable block in the rough shape desired. Splitting granite the way we have for millenia seems easier.
@tomszabo7350
@tomszabo7350 3 ай бұрын
Why etch it though? A large impact force will fracture the quartz crystals. Further shock force in the same plane will propagate the fracture. Granite is easily split by propagation of crystal fracture along grain boundary. Pounding to form scoops does the same thing ... the angle of impact creates a fracture propagation that is subhorizontal. Further impact at right angle to that fracture plane will quickly remove large volumes of material. The trick is it requires a force multiplier to create sufficient impact, not simply hand pounding. This is achieved with something as simple as a log tied to a rope (which transfers swing momentum to a dolerite pounding stone).
@kazparzyxzpenualt8111
@kazparzyxzpenualt8111 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps all the stones ever used which are now considered so hard were much much softer once upon a time. Time hardens many things. Of course the opposite is also true. But I also once heard that a south american bird that builds its nest in sheer cliff walls by choosing a spot and bringing a pulverized plant to help soften the mineral. Eventually a hole is formed with pecking away at the spot treated this way. The ancients observed this behavior and used the technique to do the same thing with their projects or so it is supposed.
@domselaar
@domselaar 2 ай бұрын
The way the guy talks is perfect for my imsomniac nights. Thanks!
@valetta202
@valetta202 3 ай бұрын
Probabably learned from the surviving Atlanteans when they seeded the earliest great civilizations after their demise. Well done boys, I liked this enormously. Thank you.
3 ай бұрын
Thanks a million!
@AustinKoleCarlisle
@AustinKoleCarlisle 3 ай бұрын
the Atlanteans were BLACK and modern archeology is RACIST for not pursuing the original creators of CIVILIZATION.
@taaskeprins
@taaskeprins 3 ай бұрын
@@AustinKoleCarlisle The Atlanteans could not have been BLACK because they were not there, or anyware 🙂. Not sure if that is RACISM though .........😁
3 ай бұрын
@@AustinKoleCarlisle 😅
@AustinKoleCarlisle
@AustinKoleCarlisle 3 ай бұрын
reverse psychology...
@Flyingdutchy33
@Flyingdutchy33 19 күн бұрын
Interesting theory and could explain a thing or two. However, The scoop marks at Aswan are, besides on the floor, also vertical on the "walls", and even upside down on the bottom of the obelisk... How does one get molten natron for a prolonged time on these surfaces? I definitely think casting was used in some cases, but we must underscore the fact that precision machining was definitely used. On UnchartedX, they tested vases who were so finely made, the tolerance levels rivaled that of the most precise modern CNC machines. They also include precise mathematical geometry. For those that don't have the engineering background to understand: Even if you were to cast these vases, your mold would have to be precise down to the 1000th of a mm in order to make these vases. In order to make the mold, and measure it to see if you didn't take away enough or whether or not you took away too much material in its creation, you'd need precise machining and measuring. Ergo, even if they came from a mold, what then made the mold? Food for thought. Also, these vases are just 2 to 3mm thick in some cases. They are so thin, they're actually translucent. The grains of the granite in these vases have also been "sanded down" to be flush with the vase itself. If you were to pout this, all your individual grains would have to be precisely aligned and shaped in order to achieve this effect. Needles to say that individually forming each grain is just out of the question, and would require the same level of precision. Machining is therefore the only logical solution, and molding pretty much out of the question. With that said, the first thing I had to think of is the oddly chipped granite surfaces on some of the megaliths. It is suggested that this is evidence of an ancient cataclysm, but if one were to put a rough block of granite in a mold, and cast a slightly different material around it, it stands to reason that these could potentially separate from eachother in a process called "thermal stress". This is the process by which rocks chip naturally due to heating and cooling in day/night cycles. There is quite a temperature differential in the desert there (I've been multiple times), ranging from > +40C to 0C, daily. Also: Aluminium is much, much softer than the blades used in a sawmill. I have plant biology education, and I can tell you right now that the amounts of aluminium in trees, or any plant for that matter, is quite neglible. They can take it up, but it is toxic. If any plant were to pick up quantities enough to harm a blade of a much, much stronger material, then that plant would surely die. Long before that, you would see growth deficiencies, rendering the tree "worthless", and make it a prime candidate for the woodchipper when thinning production forests.
@erniemajor
@erniemajor Ай бұрын
Amazing. How refreshing to hear people actually THINKING and communicating their thoughts. Subscribing. Fascinating stuff.
Ай бұрын
@@erniemajor thanks a lot!
@robertpaiva4481
@robertpaiva4481 Ай бұрын
One of the products of Egypt was the mining of Barcobinate of Soda, which the Pharoahs referred to as the elixir of the gods, which is also used today in the smelting of precious metals and also is known as baking soda. Also, this Barcobinate of Soda is also used in the curing of different kinds of cements. I do appreciate your presentation as a studying conversation. EXCELLENT!!
@bryane154
@bryane154 3 ай бұрын
If over 4000 we have all these great minds and technology and we are still theorizing how it was done... Its clear the egyptians didnt do all this. There are over a hundred pyramids and thousands of status, sites and megaliths that add up to millions of pounds, stones, dust and as this video says ash. When we talk about these numbers it just doesnt makes sense, specially cause the tschnology was lost and there is no records of how any of this was done, not rven hieroglyphs, and they used to document everything so why leave out their expertise? Every egyptian must have been a fine craftman and they must had everyone working on these structures all day. Remember that the pyramids at giza have over 2.3 million stones. If you were to just COUNT to 2.3 millions itd take you over 60 days of non stop counting, now imagine cutting, moving, shaping and placing all these things in such a sophisticated way, it jsut doesnt adds up.
@LadyLeda2
@LadyLeda2 3 ай бұрын
That is if they cut, moved shaped and placed all those stones. Moulds would be easier. Or we can believe Graham Hancock that there was a civilization on Earth before us that was more advanced and we lost these skills because of some great cataclysm that wiped out most of the world's population. The pyramids were built before this happened so were many other things all over the Earth according to Graham. It is clear the Egyptians did not build the pyramids, especially if you go to the museum in Cairo and look at their display of cooper tools they had at the time they say the pyramids were built. They must think we are stupid if they want us to believe that all those stones in the 3 pyramids were cut with these soft cooper tools. So I vote for moulds. Why is it that there are no moulds found in Egypt? They have been destroyed by the government. Egypt as a country would be very very poor if it was not for tourism. They wish to keep the narrative that was given to them all those years ago by explorers and archeologyist. That is my take on it. What is yours?
@taaskeprins
@taaskeprins 3 ай бұрын
There are calculations showing this could easely be done.
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep 2 ай бұрын
Yeah you know who couldn’t do it! Who did? The pixies maybe? Go look at Malta megaliths so much older.
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep 2 ай бұрын
@@taaskeprinswhy would they use machines to cut stone instead of using advanced materials like the machine is made from to make pyramids! 😂
@MSA
@MSA 2 ай бұрын
Let me tell you something .. someone did it... And didn't share their knowledge or it is lost to us... Wether it's the Egyptians or not. But even if they didn't do it an even older and more primitive culture did it? Makes no sense. Were they more advanced? Why is there no record of them? Egyptians ruled for 3000 years ... They had plenty of time to do all the great things they did
@theconsummatenerd
@theconsummatenerd 2 ай бұрын
Great interview! I truly enjoyed this subject! He definitely needs funding!
@fencerd02
@fencerd02 Ай бұрын
We need lots more experimentation like this, great job.
@KevAF_
@KevAF_ 3 ай бұрын
In the area where they let you pound stones near the obelisk, Is there any evidence of and progress made from all the tourists trying it? and I also wonder how many years and the amount of time people are there attempting this. It seems like we've had this ongoing experiment for years and I haven't been able to locate any compiled data.
@Gecmajster123456
@Gecmajster123456 3 ай бұрын
pounding stones is just another circus like experiment, the same as this guy has done with his miniature statues.. unbelievable honestly..
@Qwazier3
@Qwazier3 3 ай бұрын
The tourists pounding stone is part of conditioning them to believe the narrative put out there. Most people are not going to question it. BUT we will.
@ludimaes1
@ludimaes1 3 ай бұрын
I love listening to different ideas
@Wmu5
@Wmu5 3 ай бұрын
I am very impressed by Marcell Foti honestly and explanation! I like the way he thinks! Classic modern day investigative genius! Thank you for posting! 1:29:27 i totally agree!
@HChandler2010
@HChandler2010 3 ай бұрын
I've thought for a couple years that they used sodium silicate to polish the granite, some granite boxes have drip marks around the edge
@sinarcksteven1861
@sinarcksteven1861 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video !
3 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@zoplonix_reverse_engineering
@zoplonix_reverse_engineering 3 ай бұрын
You don't need a 1000ft tall pipe if you boil the water. The obelisk doesn't have any dirt on it making it a different color. The Nile river next to the Aswan quarry has plenty of water for any operation in the desert. Where do I find the pictures of the board imprints in the rocks in Peru? I've got a video on how they make the vases. Very cool research
@Unit8200-rl8ev
@Unit8200-rl8ev 3 ай бұрын
The megalithic blocks are each one different and unique. If they used a single mold to make the blocks, the blocks should all look exactly alike. Why would they construct a new mold for each new block? It would have been easier and more efficient to just carve each block individually, instead of making a new mold for each block.
@taaskeprins
@taaskeprins 3 ай бұрын
They probably did not have the same quantity of geo-polymer. Did you watch the presentation on his website? Perhaps they did use a number of molds depending on the available volume of geo-polymer. The depth of these stone was always the same anyway; shape, hight and width differed in walls.
@macawism
@macawism 3 ай бұрын
The variety of shapes lock the blocks together for resilience in earthquake prone places
@rosskstar
@rosskstar 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps they used a solution to soften an outer layer, not the whole rock. So only a rough shape was needed to be quarried
@fontainedenton
@fontainedenton 3 ай бұрын
Also, Aswan granite is only 5% quartzite… I don’t think dissolving 5% of the granite at Aswan would create those scoop marks. Not to mention the holes in Aswan… If natron was used to help the “drill” holes then how are the threads still visible?
@Zone8-jk
@Zone8-jk Ай бұрын
WOW. This is the beginning of finding out. We must try it out....He's not saying he found the exact way. He's saying he found the beginning of an avenue to explore! If we stop exploring then, we stop advancing. I like his theory. I believe he will find a way to make it work or find out why it won't work out and go another route.
@MuktiArno
@MuktiArno 3 ай бұрын
When i was younger i worked as an IT consultant at a marble sales company where slabs were cut with water jets to shape the countertops for bathrooms and kitchens. The water cut the slabs like a laser and fast! But that the slab is no more than 6 inches thick. Keep that in mind. I dont know how deep the water jets could penetrate.
3 ай бұрын
Hmm yes. This is so true!
@norbertdrage
@norbertdrage 3 ай бұрын
Depending on the application, the cutting abrasive (usually fine garnet at ~200 micron) can cut pretty nicely, but deeper cuts have problems with kerf (aka width of cut)
@fontainedenton
@fontainedenton 3 ай бұрын
You need At least 15.000 psi water jet to cut concrete.
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep 2 ай бұрын
Proves mohs scale is a useless argument
@richtomlinson7090
@richtomlinson7090 2 ай бұрын
We have ours, set at 50,000 psi, and we use 80 grit garnet.
@tomszabo7350
@tomszabo7350 3 ай бұрын
Geologists use microscopy to analyze crystalline structure. It is not a problem to distinguish natural vs artificial stone. The idea of using a water glass to make any of the stonework is simply not supported. That said, it is possible some finishes were achieved by incorporating natron to create a very smooth vitreous finish. I would recommend exploring this idea instead. Also, the scoop marks at Aswan would not be easier to create using natron. A force multiplier to drive the pounding stones into the granite and fracture the quartz crystals would be faster.
@johnkemas7344
@johnkemas7344 2 ай бұрын
Water glass/sand based castings cured with Carbon dioxide gas, ( modern mold cores for metal casting) are hard yes, but easily dissolve in water, making them non-weather proof.
@tomszabo7350
@tomszabo7350 Ай бұрын
@johnkemas7344 yes that's a good point, it is very improbable that any water glass or similar material would have anywhere near the weather resistance and durability of natural stone.
@OlivierThibaudeau
@OlivierThibaudeau 3 ай бұрын
As a frenchcanadian I relate to your translation difficulties!! Thumb up guys👍 and I like the theory by the way
@energ8t
@energ8t 3 ай бұрын
It’s an interesting theory revisited, but there’s still many unanswered questions that don’t seem to fit within this theory if it is assumed to be used for most granite forming processes. First and foremost, we are operating under the assumption that “the Egyptians didn’t have_______”. This is assuming two things: 1) That the most ancient advanced sites were actually Egyptian when they could easily predate modern assumptions. 2) That the ancient civilizations were lacking certain types of tools and expertise when we can easily find their expertise within the tolerances, stone sizes and complex design (internal chambers, etc.). Even the King’s Valley chambers are dug out of solid granite/earth. Removing masses of granite using some natron seems far-fetched (if he would propose Natron for that use). When we look at the tube drill spiral grooves artifacts and precision, what doesn’t fit is that these tube drill wall thicknesses were very thin and metal. This alone shows that the ancient (Khemetians?) had advanced use of metals even though we cannot find any of those tools. When it comes to lathing stone “vases”, the most key thing to consider is that in order to maintain tolerances and accuracy on these parts, you would have to have tooling fixtures secure enough to withstand the torques and hold the parts securely in place in addition to the proper metal tools to cut the stones efficiently and effectively. The only things effective at maintaining these tolerances would be metal and ball bearing or at the least a very high tolerance bushing of some kind and that might likely be a stretch (compared to ball bearings). Certainly the stone appears to have been “softened” somehow, but I believe the softening process more than likely affected the whole mass of a stone, rather than just the surface, and perhaps was executed using some kind of acoustic/energetic process we are still clueless to. This might also have been a process to lessen the mass of the stone materials as well. This seems to dovetail with the similar tech that seems to have been employed in the use of many of these advanced ancient sites with internal underground granite structures etc, revealing measurements which hint toward advanced acoustics and infrasound. This acoustic advanced utilization would make sense from a lost tech POV which is why we seem to be blind to it as we don’t use technology in this way with our energy/design. I did agree with the guests POV that the geo-polymers (or simply softened stone) was likely formed with pretty much no wood or molds. That theory makes zero sense to create individual molds for every stone. The “polymers” would also require zero shrinkage in order to be molded in place and have zero gaps. Another thought on natron… if the “Atlantean” era ancients built the most advanced structures, it’s possible the natron was absent in the ancient past, but present for the “reboot” cultures (Khemetians/Egyptians) as a by-product of an ancient flood which dumped the sands and ocean water over that region. Just an additional thought. Great talk overall and looking into various methods is always a plus.
@islandmonusvi
@islandmonusvi 3 ай бұрын
Indeed…sonic resonance and harmonic oscillation may have been the focus of much research. Including the isolation chambers with stepped vaults and shafts built into the various pyramids. How powerful is deep sound…what is the heartbeat of Earth …we now call it the Schumann Resonance 7.83hz. Spend a few days or weeks isolated within the confines of a secured Kings Chamber. Like taking a trip into deep TimeSpace…guaranteed to change your perspective.
@robertpeters9438
@robertpeters9438 3 ай бұрын
They worshiped the sun. Could they have used gold mirrors to reach high temperatures?
@DavidMuresan1993
@DavidMuresan1993 3 ай бұрын
Very fascinating guys, and you did a good job describing this process in a language you guys don’t speak all the time! I’ve struggled through trying to speak in very broken Spanglish when I was on a mission trip in Guatemala, and it is so frustrating not speaking your first language if you’re not fluent in said language 😂 I did get to see Tikal on that trip in 2015 which was an eye opener. I’m interested to hear your ideas about Peru next time maybe? Have a blessed day fellas!
3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I would like to extend the topic of the podcast to other ancient sites too, but i have to learn more about them first.
@rossnolan7283
@rossnolan7283 3 ай бұрын
What is 'metacolin' (sic) ? I could not understand the word or the text like to know. Thanks
3 ай бұрын
@@rossnolan7283 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metakaolin
@franciscorompana2985
@franciscorompana2985 3 ай бұрын
I'm have to investigate more. Thanks for your top notch research. Best regards from Portugal 🇵🇹
@BluhmGardens
@BluhmGardens 2 ай бұрын
Whether you agree with the theory or not, there had to be some knowledge of smelting and casting techniques for the Copper Age to have kicked off. A logical progression would be that the first "rocks" (metals are crystals) that humans were able to smelt and cast were salts, with the process being an accidental discovery from firing pottery. The next logical step would be to experiment with alloys of salts using various rock dusts collected from the creation of stone tools. This would then lead to finding and smelting metal ores, gold probably being the first (despite the "experts" claiming it was lead), of which African gold is usually found in quartz veins... It's not only possible, but plausible that the discovery of metal smelting was an accident while trying to clean up the "dirty" quartz to powder and use as a component for casting salt/stone alloys. And a possible reason that Ancient Egyptians were not the most innovative metallurgist society at that time is because they were still using their ancient techniques of stone casting. And before anyone scoffs at the idea of melting and casting stone alloys, that's exactly what glass making is... And the oldest know evidence of glass making is from 3600 BCE in Ancient Egypt. The "official" narrative is that is was an accidental byproduct of metal smelting, I'm just suggesting that maybe the experts got that backwards and stone casting came first.
@williamwillis1309
@williamwillis1309 Ай бұрын
I have always stated that the ancient structures were molded or poured into place. When you drill into a sample, you find that they consist of a concrete like substance.
@me_and_me_
@me_and_me_ 3 ай бұрын
Good work guys, really, really, really good work, and good theory too!!
3 ай бұрын
Thanks a million!
@al2207
@al2207 3 ай бұрын
what kind of granite did you used ? , normally in chemistry the only thing that dissolve quartz is hydrofluoric acid , very skeptical of the result you obtain
@TylerChamb
@TylerChamb 3 ай бұрын
The natron he used isn't dissolving the granite, it is just attacking the quartz in it. Quartz acts as the glue holding granite composite together, so knocking it out weakens the granite and basically decomposes it. It's not really dissolving the granite, just weakening it.
@Fgway
@Fgway 3 ай бұрын
When that type of sodium is hot enough it is acting like a solvent to sio2. Water glass is the product, and the challenge appears to be how exactly to harvest and manipulate at a primitive level.
@bottplug2272
@bottplug2272 Ай бұрын
My theory how the pyramids were built was the blocks were poured. The loose material was transported by river to the base of site. The structure was constructed from the centre and outwards. Each of the blocks were formed and then poured, the compacted. So for the ground level you would have formed a square with the very centre left void. Poured the ring of blocks with four sides, allowed to dry overnight, then next day remove the formwork and install it one block width away. They could have used the previous block as a wall to pour up against. As they went up levels they would transport the loose material through the centre of the structure using those inclined passageways and then poured the blocks from the centre to the outer edge.
@henrikonnou7466
@henrikonnou7466 Ай бұрын
It sounds like Davidovits’ theory.
@dldgranite1931
@dldgranite1931 Ай бұрын
I love that more. People are trying to understand the concept of how it can be done, but it’s even easier than all those steps. I don’t mean to dismiss his understanding and ideology, but you don’t have to go through all of that. You gotta do is heat the Stone up to 1500°and then hit it with cold water evaporates in an explosion that’s how simple it is. I’ve been doing Granite my whole life. What is flame finish? I can get it pretty precise.
@ld2906
@ld2906 3 ай бұрын
Marcell is intriguing. His view on things is untarnished and therefore untrammelled to the point almost of childlike innocence, without being in any way childish. I've observed these qualities in others. They inspire hope in a world perceived through the eyes of a tired civilisation. A civilisation populated by many who are secretly suspicious of their exhaustion. It is said that the universe is discovered anew through the eyes of a child. To retain that quality as a man is essential if we are to break through the simulacrum that is the source of our exhaustion. There is great wisdom in it. It will, however, be perceived as a threat to incumbents. 'Incumbents' being both those who subscribe willingly or otherwise to the simulacrum and those, indeed, who propagate it.
@quasimojo7399
@quasimojo7399 3 ай бұрын
Excellent, intriguing and thought provoking research. Thank you.
3 ай бұрын
Thank you and you are welcome!🙏
@phillipvella9987
@phillipvella9987 19 күн бұрын
So what you are seeing in that depiction of the ancient geopolymer method, is the creation of a statue, so it is showing the extraction and processing of the ores, minerals, silica, quartz etc and the mixture is heated up and then it is poured into that red clay mould box through the funnels on top
@fridafelin
@fridafelin 3 ай бұрын
Must watch again, didn't get the message first time. The interviewer is really patient, like it! I listened to the podcast 1,5x faster, couldn't process otherwise, the it-guy talking tooooo sloooowlyyy... :) I like both of them, very different, very positive NO FAKE - vibe. Thank you, Hungarian guys, I have a Hungarian colleague.... Good people! Bad president, though....
3 ай бұрын
@@fridafelin thank you! 😃
@randywollin5732
@randywollin5732 2 ай бұрын
I beg to differ, but I respect your thoughts on this. But if this is the way they shaped all of the cut stones in antiquity, it would take a tremendous amount of resources to do it. Cant imagine where they would get all of the required elements of this but I could see them using this for some smaller projects. But there is plenty of proof that machine tools were used in making the cuts on a number of stone artifacts.
@Rocksider2525
@Rocksider2525 Ай бұрын
Very interesting work. This is something anyone researching the work of the Egyptians has asked themselves. Could they have melted granite? This is the first attemp at doing it Ive ever seen. Im half way through the video so....lets see where we go
@jeremiahtree-dweller7370
@jeremiahtree-dweller7370 Ай бұрын
cool video; coolest part was watching the natron get poured onto the granite. But there was a thumbnail video blocking most of it unfortunately
@phillipvella9987
@phillipvella9987 19 күн бұрын
You are on the right path and the ancient fire setting method was done incased in clay to protect it from the wind and to increase and direct the heat, clay was also used to protect the object such as the obelisk. Try your natron salt water glass experiment incased in clay like a temporary kiln. This fire setting method will allow roughly 1 foot deep of granite to be easily removed and then the fire is set again
@RealJacco
@RealJacco 3 ай бұрын
I really like your intro 😮 Now im gonna watch the episode
3 ай бұрын
Thanks a million! 🙏
@bluemoon-iq5fh
@bluemoon-iq5fh 3 ай бұрын
Clever men well done.
@Killianwsh
@Killianwsh 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting video. I think he should research Professor Davidavits's work with Geopolymers. He created the Geo-Polymer Institute in France & is currently one of the world leaders in the field. He was the first researcher to prove the limestone blocks of the Pyramids were mixed and formed from re-aglomerated decomposing lime stone , water & Kaolin clay. Davidavits even reproduced several multi-ton limestone blocks with nothing more "high tech" than a few water vessels, a few shovels, and some hand mad wooden forms, almost identical to the ones shown in the Heiroglyph images in this video.
@Naturally_CDG
@Naturally_CDG 3 ай бұрын
Where is this youtube video of the guy dissolving the pyramid stone in boiling water???
@MasterOvPuppetz
@MasterOvPuppetz 2 ай бұрын
you mean sandstone
@cservonyec
@cservonyec Ай бұрын
The sitting figure right of the two who are pouring something, is a symbol they use to depict a process, in this case it meant the deposition of the poured material, that will solidify later on. That sitting figure is depicted in many hieroglyphs that describe a chemical process, and is always mean settlement (sitting down ) and depositions. It is different from all the figures around, and is always depicted exactly like this. (identical symbols).
@abba95521a
@abba95521a 2 ай бұрын
very enlightening discussion!!! so irritated i don't have a place to experiment with this stuff.
@HolgerIsenberg
@HolgerIsenberg 3 ай бұрын
I didn't realized before when reading your tweets how fast the solidifying occurs within 15 minutes. that's incredible and would answer the question about the missing moulds as they not really needed!
@Evergreen1400
@Evergreen1400 3 ай бұрын
Regardless even if there was use of molds they could have been made out of wood or sand neither which would be around anymore for us to see.
@daniellissenburgh1584
@daniellissenburgh1584 3 ай бұрын
Paul Cook Hidden History, Paul has also made geopolymer granit.
@edmondsandy5242
@edmondsandy5242 3 ай бұрын
Great theory. I have studied ancient alchemy and understanding of chemistry. I also have a geo polymer theory that uses instead of water use a filler which is a preservative like salt, alcohol or oil. This process i hope will allow for a longer time to set which can be shaped or molded into the desred shape or stamping of drawings into the concrete. I believe that the granite can be dissolved and rebonded with heat. Granite quarries should have fine grains of granite and quartz that nature naturally does over thousands of years every mountain side has broken down granite. It's great that he broke down the granite and quartz with chemicals back into grain form without building his flintstone machine like the scientists who ask where are the huge grinding machines to crush granite to grain form. IT guy 1 scientists 0. Determination over science. Nature is the biggest grinder of stone, granite or mountain. Simply collect the granite quartz sand grains and rebond together. Would a less acidity pine ash allow for a slower dry time. I have been burning and collecting white pine and needles ash for a couple of years that I will mix with either salt. After watching this video i wonder if the salt will effect the already neutral process for dissolving the quartz bonding agent. Food for thought
@kipbarnhill8848
@kipbarnhill8848 3 ай бұрын
The question I always ask myself is why did they use granite to make these structures. Why make something in the hardest possible way. I think the only 2 reasons are 1. Because it's a sign of skill. But if this was the case why don't we see them building up to it. We almost see the reverse. 2. Is the granite wasn't as hard to work with as we think. They must have had a technique or tool. This makes more sense logically unfortunately we don't have evidence to prove it.
@ToxiCom-777
@ToxiCom-777 3 ай бұрын
Things of this magnitude are done only out of need. Granite same. It was necessary for conductive property? Was it somehow a reagent? Resistant to chemical? If they could economize, they would have, just like all animals, always all down through forever.
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep 2 ай бұрын
Some of these people aren’t as sensible as you and i to question everything. If people think machines made it then why use stone and not the same material the machine is made from? I’ve seen marble statues worn down an inch or more by getting touched constantly over centuries. Mohs scale is not useful with abrasive methods.
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep 2 ай бұрын
Some of these people aren’t as sensible as you and i to question everything. If people think machines made it then why use stone and not the same material the machine is made from? I’ve seen marble statues worn down an inch or more by getting touched constantly over centuries. Mohs scale is not useful with abrasive methods.
@wrdennig
@wrdennig 2 ай бұрын
The geopolymeric casting theory is the one that resonates with me. And that's my unscientific ruling.
@TgWags69
@TgWags69 3 ай бұрын
Some thoughts. He doesn't mention burning limestone to get calcium hydroxide (lye). Calcium hydroxide can then be used to make waterglass (sodium silicate). Also the natural natron is a mixture of sodium carbonate, sodium bicarbonate, sodium sulfate, and salt (sodium chloride.) This will have a much different effect than just using the sodium carbonate (washing soda) available in the hardware store. Especially the Sulphur component which is very effective at breaking down limestone and other compounds. Using natural natron I think is very important in the process. Also don't neglect to include the possibility of burning bones or animal carcasses to create the statue stone. Animals would tend to build up more heavy metals over time that plants. I wouldn't put it past some acient civilizations to use himan sacrifices as well to imbue their statues with some spiritual significance by using human ash from sacrifices. Lots of basic chemistry occuring around a cooking fire. We are so removed from the daily use of gathering around a cooking fire everyday that it is easy to overlook things that are easily observed over time.
@SpecialK002
@SpecialK002 3 ай бұрын
Fascinating as this topic may be there remains SO many other mysteries to the construction of these ancient structures that simply being able to chemically alter the mechanical properties of granite adds little to aide in an understanding of the capabilities or techniques the constructors of these monuments possessed. Either from the largest scales with an explanation of how they could encode geometric proportions that relate to the measure of the planet to the orientation of stellar objects with fantastic precision to the production of the smallest objects that are also symmetrical to fantastic precision and in certain objects also encode geometric proportions.
@dylhas1
@dylhas1 29 күн бұрын
I don’t think they cast the stones in Egypt but other places might have. But natron was certainly used in cutting
@doubleminttwins
@doubleminttwins 3 ай бұрын
What is the point of having someone on to interview if you're going to have such a hostile attitude? Yes he is doing things that are different than anyone we have seen yet by changing the property of granite yet you keep asking and bring me up different issues to show how what he is making is not exactly like the Egyptians made thousands of years ago . We don't know how the Egyptians did the pyramids but it takes people like this doing experiments to find out. What is the point of saying it's not the same color, where's the material going to come from, but you have to wait till the water goes down, so much negativity. If he knew exactly what the Egyptians did to make scoop marks and build pyramids He wouldn't be trying to figure out how to substitute the process. If you're not interested in hearing what a person has to say then don't have them on your podcast just to be dismissive and passive-aggressive.
@Gecmajster123456
@Gecmajster123456 3 ай бұрын
1:26:54 naturally occuring granite is a glued material.. that's why you need to have a hostile attitude, to question what nonsense he said..
@charlesstewart9246
@charlesstewart9246 3 ай бұрын
​@@Gecmajster123456I think he ment the granite is " glued " with quarts,replace the quarts and you have "another " form of glued substance. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🤔👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@Elm115
@Elm115 3 ай бұрын
He's just asking questions. That's what you do. Many questions about every little difference. I believe whoever built the pyramids may have found a way to melt/change the stone, but I don't get butt hurt when someone is questioning the process. That's the Scientific method. Questions Questions questions. I'm on the toilet as most here are and your reply is anticipated because my laughing helps to speed up the process, and when I'm done with your comments, I can flush it away as well. Geez.
3 ай бұрын
Thank you! This just made my day! 🤣
@mushroomtea01
@mushroomtea01 3 ай бұрын
No he was OK.. maybe ur being to sensitive
@harryman8378
@harryman8378 3 ай бұрын
I went into the Cairo museum to see some of the exhibits etc. the unfinished granite box 📦 etc. if you look at the cut on the back of the box 📦. You can see the guide line they make for cutting. It’s not scraped on. It looks like it’s high pressure liquid. Also the cut is polished. Same with the core samples. ( when they drilled holes into granite). All polished. Very different from modern techniques etc. I think 🤔 this guys original idea was correct. High pressure water jets. 👍👍👍👍. He gave this idea up. Because he couldn’t find a way to make it work with primitive technology. This is a mistake because he’s not following the evidence. Just because you can’t find machines doesn’t mean they didn’t exist………(. The machines that make the huge engineering marvels in modern times are few and far between ). It would be silly 🙃 in thousands of years in the future. If future generations found the remains of the Golden Gate Bridge for example. Or the Panama Canal. To say. We can’t find the machines. We can only find chisels and hammers. Therefore they must have built these things with hand tools 🛠️. Ridiculous right. 👍. Now we know how these bridges and canals where built. But you’d have a hard time finding the original equipment. Even today. Let alone thousands of years later. It’s like for example. The Volkswagen Beetle. Build in the millions. Try finding one today. ???????
@freedomtowander
@freedomtowander 3 ай бұрын
That’s an incredibly valid point. Imagine looking for a tunnel boring machine in 4000 years
@oldskool235
@oldskool235 3 ай бұрын
They did find the machines, they are all over the Giza complex in plain sight. Instead of looking like machines, they are now huge rust deposits.
@harryman8378
@harryman8378 3 ай бұрын
@@oldskool235 You could well be right 👍my friend. Given the extreme age. They would all be rusted away. I also remember hearing something about napoleon’s troops dragging machines out of the great pyramid. No way of knowing if that’s true. But I live in Belfast. The city was once full of linen mills. Full of machinery. The machines are long gone. The building. What remains. Are now apartments. Try finding the machines. You’ll find it difficult. Only a few remain in museums etc.
@lucaslittmarck2122
@lucaslittmarck2122 3 ай бұрын
I have also thought about water jets. There is jewelry from Cyprus and Egypt made of sapphires that they drilled and put on gold necklaces. Try drilling sapphires... It's even hard using diamonds because of vibrations.
@SphericEl
@SphericEl 3 ай бұрын
Commendable work, i enjoyed his work on the idea of poly stones in Peru being fixed in place with wood... But i don't get why Egyptians would need to fake the look of granite if the cement was already practical. But good work.
@killeresk
@killeresk 3 ай бұрын
Interesting talk.
@StalkedByLosers
@StalkedByLosers 3 ай бұрын
Just the first 2 minutes had me saying YES YES YES
@meows_and_woof
@meows_and_woof 2 ай бұрын
Pyramids were build not of granite but of the limestone which is softer stone and limestone can be crushed to dust and remolded to hard stone as you wish. Limestone is formed from the remains of marine organisms and their shells so that material is possible to soften with acids and salty sea water , make into limestone mud and reform into the blocks which will harden into the same limestone they started as
@Kricnit
@Kricnit Ай бұрын
Watching him think is exhausting 😂 I do agree that fire and most likely water were used to liberate large quantities of granite. They were probably using water for rapid contraction of the granite by rapidly cooling.
@Sutoraida1975
@Sutoraida1975 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if a large tuning fork would work just as well as a vibrating massager to remove bubbles in a poured geopolymer? Since they didn't have devices back then... But did they have tuning forks?
3 ай бұрын
Yes its in the museum in Cairo
@ToxiCom-777
@ToxiCom-777 3 ай бұрын
Videos of Hoover Dam construction show massive vibrators being dunked into the wet concrete, the vibe-out all the bubbles.
@dax313xab
@dax313xab 3 ай бұрын
102nd thing, I shouldn't be thinking about... But the title alone is rational and close to how I would do it "Back in the Day" the nubs in these structures look like relief notches in the outer wooden structure, to allow the settling of the somewhat viscous medium / "concrete" . Imagine ground fill on the interior and a Wood mold on the exterior, the middle stones we see today were laid down in layers , solidified and the wooden exterior is gone
@philoso377
@philoso377 2 ай бұрын
The term softening implies a process from hard to soft. However the theoretician have forgotten to describe the end process after soften that is how it went through from soft to hard.
@RLDavis-h2h
@RLDavis-h2h 18 күн бұрын
Muriatic acid, used in pool maintenance, when applied in concentration to unpolished granite, will eventually turn hard stone into a sandy mush...
@texas77563
@texas77563 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for speaking in English. It seems like the rose granite and other specific materials were chosen for the intended use of the structure that was being made. Mica and liquid mercury and other substances were needed for the mechanical and electrical use of these structures and the granite materials were chosen and the glue and binders were chosen to match the granite. If they wanted to make the structure last for 10s of thousands of years a special granite was chosen and if they needed bulk material to make the internal frame of the structure a cheap and easy bulk material was used to match the intent of the structure. Im in Texas and im so interested in making huge geopolymer blocks out of sand or other cheap materials
@BleachedWheat
@BleachedWheat 2 ай бұрын
What is he saying at 11:26-11:36, about the name of the thing that desolves quartz? In CC, it reads "molon nron" or "mnron", but it sounds like hes saying "motornature"! And, after you chemically break down the granite, can you reconstitute it?
@AlexanderFarley
@AlexanderFarley 3 ай бұрын
Good interview, checking out his website now
3 ай бұрын
Thanks a million!
@G_lions
@G_lions 3 ай бұрын
Plants can absorb aluminum compounds, including aluminum oxide, from the soil, especially in acidic conditions. Some plants are known to accumulate higher levels of aluminum, but aluminum oxide itself is not typically stored in plants in its pure form. Instead, aluminum is usually found in a complexed form within the plant tissues. Here are some plants that are known to accumulate significant amounts of aluminum: Tea Plant (Camellia sinensis): Tea plants are known to accumulate aluminum, particularly in acidic soils, and aluminum can be present in the leaves. Hydrangea (Hydrangea spp.): Hydrangeas can accumulate aluminum, which influences the color of their flowers. In acidic soils with available aluminum, the flowers often turn blue. Ferns: Certain ferns, like the Pteris vittata (Chinese brake fern), can accumulate significant amounts of aluminum. Grasses: Some grass species, such as wheat (Triticum aestivum) and rye (Secale cereale), can take up aluminum from the soil. Buckwheat (Fagopyrum esculentum): This plant is known to tolerate and accumulate aluminum, making it useful for phytoremediation of aluminum-contaminated soils. These plants are adapted to environments with high aluminum availability and have developed mechanisms to tolerate and accumulate aluminum, although the specific form and storage method of aluminum within these plants can vary. Source: Openai
@jeffeldredge1608
@jeffeldredge1608 Ай бұрын
They figured out how to use crushed fine granite powder mixed with a binder of some type. They did not have the tech to handle molten magma or lava or Anything so extremely hot. They produced everything in clay first. Then created a sand mold, Poured their mixture into the mold. The absolute perfection attained? This would be the most likely way they were produced.
@rs6730
@rs6730 3 ай бұрын
I think they found a natural acid that can make the stone soft.. then the acid drains out of those notches when they put too much acid or need less space between rocks.
@piknar
@piknar 3 ай бұрын
watch "pyramid k", that documentary is long and explains how the natron was used as you have, but heat mechanism was different..what's interesting that pro remote viewers at "farsight" give clues to how giza was built which corroborates a lot of pyramid k doc, and now what you guys talking is more in that direction. thank you and bravo
@HappyTyke25
@HappyTyke25 Ай бұрын
Thank you guys for talking in English. My Hungarian is zero😂 this is a super interesting theory! Much more believable than alien intervention.
@peterhawryluk8430
@peterhawryluk8430 Ай бұрын
Hi guys, I too have tried to figure this out. This is what I came up with " if every one of these cultures made metals like gold, copper and silver. If you use the wash water from mining which is very acidic you can chemically burn off the liquid it makes any kind of stone crumble.
@nancygrant3361
@nancygrant3361 3 ай бұрын
They had cedar from Lebanon which is usually a red wood.
@colhannanjr
@colhannanjr 14 күн бұрын
The megalithic sites in the UK also have "melted" stones with hands pushed into the "soft stone" as well.. my brain is rupturing right now!!!!
@Sanmayce
@Sanmayce 3 ай бұрын
Having so much sand along with the supposedly hi-tech allowing high-temperatures - one question arises, why Ancient Egypt was not a ... Glass Building Civilization.
@alexanderstrelnikov
@alexanderstrelnikov 3 ай бұрын
Take a look at for example Tutankamons mask, the blue lines are actually fabricated glass. The oldest known examples of glass are from mesopotamia and ancient egypt.
@dananorth895
@dananorth895 3 ай бұрын
Egypt produced large quantities of glass, but very little survives. Glass is amorphous non crystaline structure. Technically a liquid that melts/flows over hundreds and thousands of years. If you had a glass cup 2000 years ago it would have been stolen, broken or melted back into the sand/rock. Unlike crystal or metals which are much more stable through time and chemical process.
@franciscorompana2985
@franciscorompana2985 3 ай бұрын
​@@dananorth895some windows glass from some "Scottish" pubs are literally melted. I don't know the composition but they must be different.
@gazpal
@gazpal 3 ай бұрын
​@franciscorompana2985 they used spun glass. This is where the glass is initially blown to form a large bulb, which is then cut while a kiln temperature and opened to form a flat disk. Re-attached at it's centre to the pipe, the glass is then re-heated and spun to form a larger flat disk (the glass blower often stood on a raised platform) before laying down to cool and be cut. It's much the reason why windows used small panes of glass and virtually every piece of the glass disk would be used. The central bulb remnant would also be used and is commonly known as a bulls-eye. Glass (a semi solid material which is neither a solid or liquid) window panes typically slump over a period of time and - in spite of being crafted at an even thickness - can very slowly become thicker at the bottom.
@vinniecartermusic
@vinniecartermusic 3 ай бұрын
Well remember a lot of people who subscribe to these theories also have great supporting evidence for pushing these advanced ancient Egyptians further back around 11000bc and further, a time when the area was not a desert.
@JediBuddhist
@JediBuddhist 3 ай бұрын
Interesting discourse . You started saying the problem with string... I would love to hear the rest or that thought train.
@MrComint
@MrComint 2 ай бұрын
very interesting
@halhansen778
@halhansen778 3 ай бұрын
From a good comment below: Where are all of the machines used in building the Panama Canal: The construction of the Panama Canal in 1914 used a variety of machines, including: Steam shovels: 102 new railroad-mounted steam shovels, including the Bucyrus 95-ton steam shovel, which was marketed as the most powerful ever built at the time Dredges: 20 dredges, replacing obsolete French paddle wheel dredges Cranes: More than 50 cranes Other equipment: 560 drills, giant hydraulic rock crushers, cement mixers, and pneumatic power drills
@Uberjoel
@Uberjoel 3 ай бұрын
Intresting I have actualy had my own theories on melting or casting stone struktures
@jezzamobile
@jezzamobile 3 ай бұрын
Presents a weak theory then undermines his credibility 100% at the end by dismissing the mathematical precision of the vases. 😳
@onemanmob6756
@onemanmob6756 3 ай бұрын
Why would you rely on the Egyptian depictions of stone softening/shaping, if we know FOR SURE that all the ancient megaliths (including those in Egypt) pre-date those depictions by many thousands of years and also knowing that the Egyptians themselves did not use those advanced techniques??? It's like relying on a blind person's depiction of a sunset....
@EllisonBallard-m4y
@EllisonBallard-m4y 3 ай бұрын
Glass beads and glass jewelry that act like a "magnifying glass." Were the ancient Egyptians so unobsevant that the glass had magnifying properties ?
@luke9911
@luke9911 3 күн бұрын
@@EllisonBallard-m4yfresnel lens
@sean5278
@sean5278 Ай бұрын
I think you're close, rammed earth with geo polymer in the mix. Once water is added it's rock solid. Compact the dry "cement" earth mixture by pounding then add water or in some cases fire by kiln or just building a large fire around the structure like the forts in Scotland
@mrliberty8468
@mrliberty8468 2 ай бұрын
Granite has large crystals that take 100s or 1000s of years of slow cooling to form . Regiloth has very small crystals that dosent take that long to cool. Nobody can softin granite with heat because it would ruin the crystals in the granite.
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