AND NOW I'M CRYING... | Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker - Part 3

[@roetheboat1]

Here's the names of the "Voices from the Past" bit at 15:42:22 (Got this from the r/FFXIV subreddit) Voice from the Past (Ardbert): If you need a push, I'll be right there behind you. Voice from the Past (Haurchefant): Do not despair! You are not without allies. Voice from the Past (Merlwyb): What we have sown in blood, we have reaped in suffering, and it cannot go on. Voice from the Past (Aymeric): Upon the souls of they who have sacrificed themselves to pave the way for peace, we will never abandon our cause. Voice from the Past (Nanamo): While it is true that man succumbs all too often to anger and avarice, he may yet overcome his baser instincts through the forming of bonds with others. Voice from the Past (Raubahn): Such victories are rarely won without sacrifice. But the prize is worth the price. Voice from the Past (Kan-E-Senna): And we for our part are glad indeed to be able to welcome friends both old and new... Voice from the Past (Hien): Save your tears for the morrow. You may be sure we will have ample cause to shed them, be they for joy or despair. Voice from the Past (Papalymo): From tragedy and sacrifice we rise to greet a new dawn. Voice from the Past (Edmont): A future shaped by the choices we made, in ways we could never have foreseen. Voice from the Past (Beq Lugg): Yet miracles do happen. So let us pray, and will our friends home. Voice from the Past (Ryne): I won't stop praying until I know they're safe. Voice from the Past (Midgardsormr): Strong art thou, mortal. Voice from the Past (Minfilia): Look to the light within, that you may continue to serve as a beacon to others. Voice from the Past (Ardbert): Let's finish this.

[@Nyghtgirl27]

Fun Fact: Papalymo’s VA is Kadaj from FF7 Advent Children

[@BlazeingShadows]

Thank you Warrior of Light

[@ryanseager123456789]

Lyse done dirty, even the WOL just forgot about her

[@kylele23]

@@ryanseager123456789 lmao

[@damien9683]

@@ryanseager123456789 "lyse" .... *WHO???*

[@Boonoojootoo]

I really liked how they handled WoL's decision on how to approach the final duel with Zenos, whom is a divisive antagonist to begin with. 3rd answer for the people who just hate him, and Zenos loves it because that's what he was trying to do all along; rile you up. 2nd answer for people who just don't care about him, and he's happy to finally be worthy of your attention. "That, I cannot deny," is WoL accepting Zenos and understanding what drives him, and matching it in turn. All 3 choices are perfectly applicable and reasonable, and reflect the playerbase pretty well.

[@dazzamcg2369]

I chose "that I cannot deny" because the warrior of light is not just a champion of Eorzea or hydealeans champion. His an adventurer at heart who strives to seek greater challenges and testing himself against mightier foes so he himself can grow stronger to protect his comrades. That's why he understands Zenos as an equal, a mirror of himself. Zenos was the ultimate challenge for the warrior of light and in turn Zenos felt the same way about him/her. Why he was desperate to seek out the warrior of light. And that's why that answer was the only right choice for me. In the end they had the utmost respect for each other

[@TheTriforceDragon]

@@dazzamcg2369 Plus that answer fits really well with the Dark Knight quest line and the stuff that happened there.

[@GarlemaldInformatum]

Yeah too bad he's a boring antagonist and a waste of time.

[@TheDustyMuffinsss]

Just wish there was a 3rd dialogue with the 'I dont want your help/wont save you' but. Wouldve loved something like "Hell yeah, but im kicking your ass after this"

[@WingTzu343]

@@GarlemaldInformatum That's a bummer. Shame you couldn't comprehend the genius behind his character.

[@OracleGrouse]

I like how they used Emet and Zenos to parallel the final step of the Hero's Journey. In the intro of ARR, you are asked why do you want to be an adventurer. Because that is what you are. You chose this life to see new sights and encounter challenges you'd never meet otherwise. But then you joined the Scions and have gotten involved in plots and machinations. You crossed the threshold, became the Warrior of Light, unraveled the mysteries that govern this Star... Then at the End, you wonder what's next. And Emet calls you back to what drove you in the first place: Discovery. And Zenos reminds you of the thrill you had early in your journey: seeking out challenges for the fun of it and not because you needed too. This moment wasn't just a 4th Wall break, that is what your character was doing before joining the Scions. So with no threat of Rejoinings, no Elder Primals left, no Sound: you are no longer the Warrior of Light, but an adventurer. Free as the wind, free to explore the world for your own curiosity and find challenge because you want it, not because it is your duty.

[@sniderealism2410]

Fun fact: When asked that question back in ARR, you only had 4 options: Fame, Glory, Money, or stay silent. Meaning that WoL's first intentions probably was more shallow than "discovery for the sake of it", but it became that reason as the story went on.

[@OtomostheCrazy]

@@sniderealism2410 speak for yourself. My WoL has always been about that money when the dialogue option is available

[@angelreaper1000]

@@sniderealism2410 i hatet that i couldnt chose as an option to travel unknown places or see the world or just for adventuring

[@Tenkuu-san]

@@sniderealism2410 It's more that those might have been the "expected" answers from a fresh adventurer. Also, you have the options wrong, since fame and glory are basically the same things. It's power, glory, money, or staying silent. One might feel that these are the answers that would have run through your character's head before they finally decided to keep their own counsel because they were either undecided, had a complex answer, or didn't feel like opening up to a stranger, however friendly. Even if you choose not to stay silent though, it doesn't mean that elements of the other answers aren't part of your reasons for becoming an adventurer, or even that one of the other answers doesn't intertwine with the others. Wanting power might involve wanting to be strong enough so that you can protect others, or even defend a particular cause, such as joining the Scions. Wanting glory might involve wanting to become known so that you can make a difference in the world, or help someone else do so, as we did with Alphinaud in particular. Wanting money might involve gaining the means to have enough influence to change something for the better, such as Godbert using at least part of his vast fortune for donations and to give people chances by employing them.

[@stitches1110]

@@sniderealism2410 honestly, given that scene isn’t even voiced I would love for even a stealth patch to add on a 5th dialogue option of traveling or some such. Would be really cool for old players revisiting the story, as well as new players who happen to choose it on a whim to learn that there was a sense of “destiny” to it.

[@davidmortimer9764]

As a lalafell, I didn't realise other races(?) ended up being the same height as the Ascians. They said I was "toy-sized."

[@karurosu4121]

i was a bit smaller than them (fem aura) but they didnt mention my height.

[@SgtIronbeak]

Roe get a comment on being too big.

[@RandoPassingBy]

Somehow as male au ra (which is way too tall), i got no comment on my height, but my horns and scales

[@TemLightKiBlade]

I love how the entirety of ten years of conflict in our time, and thousands of life times from Emets point of view, boils down to Hermès asking the wrong question. Lol

[@ChrisBabaganoosh]

The entirety of FF14 wouldn't have happened if someone just told Hermes to smoke a bowl, jerk off and take a nap so he'd feel better.

[@TemLightKiBlade]

@@ChrisBabaganoosh Sad part is I really don't think thats really a new thing for FF when it comes to some of the 'villians' Not that I mind, love the franchise, but man people who can't just chill ruin things for the rest of us.

[@shadow0fx]

@@ChrisBabaganoosh Literally just give Hermes a Snickers. Problem solved

[@leonides1527]

Everyone: THIS IS YOUR FAULT!! Hermes: ;-;

[@imaran1303]

@@leonides1527 It is his fault. Not only did he doom Meteion to suffer, not only did he doom his own race to oblivion simply because he couldn't be bothered to fully test and bug-fix Meteion before sending her out with a flawed question. Hermes is a bitch. But hey there is enough blame to go around Venat is just as bad, telling no one what the actual problem was and instead keeping all her people in the dark and dooming them to oblivion as well.

[@danh8804]

I wasn't prepared to hear Hydaelyn put "Hear/Feel/Think" in the context of Meteion. Was just... magnificent writing and plotting. It's always been her plea to mankind to warn of the true danger that lay beyond. As amazing as the finale all was, it's Venat's journey that sticks to the ribs, what I'm thinking about throughout the day since finishing.

[@FF-tp7qs]

Zenos, rather than a "villain", is more of a foil to the Warrior of Light, even in Stormblood, he was just a symptom of the Empire. As a foil he works better, as he is a mirror of the WoL's drive to attain strength and find stimulation, but without the Wol's compassion and morals.

[@ninboy01]

Even so, he realized he was drawn to you the same as everyone else who has rallied to you side. In the end he likely just wanted to connect with someone like himself, and since fighting is his only joy in life it’s the only thing he can share with anyone. Still, the guy is so ride or die he became a Primal and flew to the end of the universe to fight alongside you. I think that alone earned him that final battle, regardless of everything else.

[@Twocoolman115]

He’s like Sephiroth or Ardyn, villain or not, he’s more of an anthesis to our character.

[@danielbensch1663]

6:47:15 "Zenos done nothing" Some Dohmans and Ala Mhigans would like to disagree.

[@thunderborn3231]

i LOVE how urianger even in his deepest grief cannot show his emotion through his voice, but his hands are shaking so hard because if you force emotion that strong away it comes out from your body against your will. such a great detail.

[@mismismism]

I love that they basically told us all of this without telling us in ShB. Zodiark never did anything evil, Hydaelyn never had a reason to fear him. Now we know the Sundering wasn't because of Zodiark really at all, she knew what Meteion saw, she knew Fandaniel was just the first that would eventually feel the futility of being gods that eventually know everything and lose any purpose and reason to live, and she knew without being able to use dynamis, the ancients couldn't stop Meteion. The Sundering protected Zodiark, the star, gave us the ability to fight Meteion or have time and a way to flee if we couldn't stop her. It's kind of wild.

[@ericbright1742]

You can't play true 4D Chess without time travel being involved.

[@mismismism]

@@ericbright1742 Honestly, it's such a simple change that completely turned the whole perception of events on it's head and I love that it explains an energy and mechanic we always had but never had fleshed out, with limit breaks. It even explains why we suddenly get so crazy strong, like the Thordan "What are you?!?!", we're literally powered up by the need to protect our friends, the Sundering basically turned us into Saiyans from DBZ lol. Although technically we might be on a branched timeline now and the friends we left before Elois either died or escaped on the moon lol.

[@ericbright1742]

@@mismismism No, there was no timeline split like the Crystal Tower's first trip back. It's a closed loop, like Alexander, because Elidibus remembered seeing us in Elpis before we went back.

[@mismismism]

@@ericbright1742 Elidibus and Hydaelyn could be explained by the fact they're both not only dead technically but Elidibus is tied to the tower and Hydaelyn is tied to the aetherial sea, so it could be argued that they know because they have access to the space between so they have memories from across time and space, and in Hydaelyn's cas, death itself. I'm not saying that's for sure what happened but it would explain why we can't actually change the past but they can still have memories of it.

[@mad_max21]

Uhhh forgot the entire Shadowbringers expansion, did you? Zodiark was still a threat. The rejoining would still result in the extinction of all the sundered life, regardless of what Meteion would do.

[@Contevent]

1:15:00 No, Hermes became Fandaniel. Then his soul was subdered in 14, each fragment of it reincarnated in the 14 worlds. Amon was such a reincarnation. When he was found by Emet Selch, or perhaps when the previous bearer of the seat died, the frament of Hermes that was Amon was awakened to Hermes's memories and made an Ascian. However, that fragment didn't feel he was Hermes, but was more attached to the identity he grew up as, Amon, even after having taken the seat of Fandaniel amidst the Ascians

[@GrandiaKnight]

I love Emet Selch and Hythlodaeus in this expansion. They are just an old arguing married couple.

[@Contevent]

"Please, grace us with ypur handsome face" "The soure one at my side is Emet Selch" "The key to persuade him is to be unrelentingly persistent" Dude, they are totally married.

[@Ultimus31]

Hythlodeus: 'I see you, opening.' Shen: 'Okay, can you please say another line.' Estinnien, Starshatter Diving through time itself: 'YOU UNDERESTIMATE ME'

[@shadowthehedgehog181]

Thoughout the entire playthough, Shenpai's been VERY adamant over the idea that Hydaelyn was evil. Then got preeeeetty quiet after THAT scene and the trial 🤔

[@Necropotence666]

Mega super silent , I was even like is this thing on where did reaction go

[@alexandersykes6300]

​@@Necropotence666 Black Tar?

[@Crusina]

Fr fr lol 😂

[@CheomaNozomi]

Soken: How many tears shall people shed from my compositions? Yoshi-P: *bawling* Yes 😢

[@torkm01]

I cant believe it was foggy when you arrived in Elpis lol It really was a sight to behold when it is clear skies

[@michaeloneill2746]

When I went to see sharlayan it was foggy haha

[@garothegoldenknight498]

@@michaeloneill2746 I went to Labyrinthos and it was night time.

[@Spritus3241]

It was raining for me, very sad.

[@kootiepatra]

It was foggy for me when I first got there, too. I straight up waited for clear weather so I could see it properly (and get a screenshot with the very good boys) before moving on. Which I imagine would fly less well on a livestream. :D

[@acgearsandarms1343]

Amon IS the reincarnated sundered soul of Hermes. Emet-Selch gave the position to Amon who was raised to the seat of Fandaniel.

[@AveryEremiaBreak]

I sort of understand the Zenos hate, but I honestly love him as a character. He is singularly focused on one thing and doesn't need or care about the who's, how's, and why's. He is simple, and that simplicity is a welcome reprieve from the fantastically complex villain's other expansions have given us (not that im complaining about complex villans). Besides, he completely owned Jullus during the cutscene where he asked Zenos why? What does it matter why he did it? It is done and nothing you say or do, whether you cry and scream about how unfair it is or let anger and revenge consume you, will change it. Pick yourself up, pick a path, and start walking. The only person who can find meaning in your life is you yourself. For Zenos, his meaning is to fight the WoL and recapture the first time he felt true joy. And that's all he needs to be.

[@kiraina25]

The fact that _Zenos_ instinctively understood the core mistake that Hermes made...

[@harlz8568]

Yeah, I kind of liked the concept of Zenos. We had a lot of complex villain's since Heavenward so having one that was very singular focused was a nice contrast. They could have tried changing his character to make him more complex reasons for his behavior but instead they took a risk and doubled down and I believe that was the better decision.

[@solerosable]

I see Zeno’s character as a reflection of those players who don’t care about the journey and only the destination. They don’t care about whoever’s toes they need to step on, they only care about beating the next tier of challenge, the next raid boss, the next thing that will give them purpose for continuing to play the game. They don’t look to the little things like just chatting with friends, exploring the world, meeting new people to share new experiences with, or just trying something new in general. They are so fixated on chasing the “high” of another challenge.

[@karurosu4121]

for me i just liked him better in Stormblood. He was here to yandere for me. In Stormblood he thought you were interessting yes but it was just written less annoying to me

[@armanindjeian4873]

I really like Zenos thematically. As opposed to the main antagonist who is super nihilstic, he believes that people should create their own meanings (as he tells Jullus to do) and is soley commited to fulfilling his. Also appreciate him being only second to G'raha in being a WoL fanboy

[@xalrath]

it's an old observation by now, but hey, I just got to this point. the beauty of Shinryu against Endsinger is that yeah, Shinryu is Zenos in all his combat-horny glory, but it is also Shinryu. a creature born of raw despair, anger, fear, and above all else the dying pleas of those who know they picked a fight they could not win. alone among primals, something wholly at home in Ultima Thule, at the end of all hopes. because at the end of all hopes there are two answers, and Metion took the easy one. somewhere inside Shinryu, Ilberd is cackling a last laugh of mad defiance. because yes. he has been outmatched. he will die, and all those he lead will die, and -he knew that going in-. endsinger says "you struggle in vain, you will not silence our song." and Shinryu answers "if you aren't lying, I can still die spiting you."

[@NightWhisper8462]

It was so fun watching what kind of "friends" we and Hythlodaeus were to Emet.

[@edwardnowakowski5990]

The best of friends

[@roetheboat1]

I get the feeling that Emet-Selch (the tsundere that he is) bitches more about the people he care the most about.

[@randomstreamer2868]

@@roetheboat1 I mean... Azem asked Hythlodeus and Emet to break in some Forbidden Library to steal... AHEM "borrow" a dangerous concept ( "Ifrita" at the time, trademarked by Lahabrea of course ) to save an island from a vulcano eruption later to come back and brag about it to a young and yet easily pleased Elidibus. Later that same Elidibus had to share the reason with Emet being... " That island.... their grapes were like soooo goooood, no way in 7 hells that i would lose those grapes ". From what was said in Elpis, both Hythlodeus and Emet grew the habit to " suddenly improvise and go with the flow of things thanks to an unpredictable friend ". I think that Emet's outbursts are justified from that alone without even taking into account that the last Azem spent most of their time on the field helping people left and right : meaning that EVERY time Azem would break a window, they would run away in the wild thus escaping any retribution for their rash actions.

[@MenrvaS]

@@randomstreamer2868 Its not a life style, its a requirement for every Azem.

[@FF-tp7qs]

It really made me kind of pity the amount of crap Emet must have put up with being dragged around by Azem and Hythlodeus

[@Hiroyashy]

The more time I spent in Elpis and did Quests in the area, the more I was thinking "What kind of nutjob were we as unsundered Azem that everyone is fine with any shit we do?"

[@Makorze]

Well remember that volcano story that Hythlo was talking about? Azem "borrowed" something from Lahabrea to fix it and cited there was some nice grapes that grew near the volcano he didnt want them destroyed when asked why s/he ran into an active volcano. Emett also knows Hythlo helped Azem get it so he didnt mention it to the convocation XD

[@dumbsterdives]

​@@Makorzeold comment, but fun fact, what azem "borrowed from lahabrea was the concept that eventually became ifrit, and they took it in order to summon and fight it in the volcano, siphoning away the fire aether behind the eruption. azem was just built different

[@LittleZero86]

Morse code in ARR in the last CT cinematic "ITS ALL WRONG"... and the lyrics of "Answers"... how far they have planned out the story back then is incredible.

[@EvilDickism]

they didnt plan that far in advance

[@LittleZero86]

@@EvilDickism Well, not planned per sé but had a rough idea where to go.

[@EvilDickism]

@@LittleZero86 Nope not even that. According to interviews

[@pedroscoponi4905]

There was a lot of rewriting along the way but it's clear the general idea was always to get to this point. Where we accept the existence of despair, and reject it in the same breath by holding onto hope anyway.

[@mten10th67]

I hate this communities' aggression towards Hydaelyn, but full and complete acceptance of Emet-Selch. Priorities people!

[@Kozmokast]

While I’ve only started playing in the last few months and didn’t have to stew on shadowbringers for a year or more, I can definitely understand the speculation that something wasn’t right with Hydaelyn and the potential aggression. But having the benefit of playing recently, I absolutely love the both of them and think they were really well fleshed out characters.

[@pedroscoponi4905]

I get the _suspicion_ 100%, I was suspicious too, but the _aggression_ is definitely weirding me out, specially as a new player. I have no idea where it's coming from.

[@Wuffskers]

@@pedroscoponi4905 I was also suspicious going into Endwalker but I was also open to letting the story unfold and learn the truth, it seems like some people decide that the story is going a certain way before there's any real legitimate proof to justify their expectations and then their attitude and opinion is based on their expectations rather than what is actually there in the text of the story, and then you end up in the really awkward position of hating on hydaelyn only for her to be revealed to just be your cool adventuring compassionate crystal mommy. I remember Jocat also made a bunch of assumptions about sharlayan and the forum and their plans, thinking they were being selfish and were only planning on saving themselves but there was literally no indication of that. Their isolationism was motivated by thinking preparing for the final days was the most important thing, it wasn't motivated by them thinking only sharlayan matters. if you've been tasked with saving an entire planet from the end of the world it makes sense that everything else would seem like petty squabbles and much less important than their "momentus duty". Just because they're pompous and stubborn doesn't mean they were mustache twirling villains.

[@Yeetbc]

Can only hope that aggressive hate fades off for Wuk Lamat like it seems to have for Venat/Hydaelyn

[@Ishmala91]

Seeing Hythlodaeus and Emet together always gave me the feel of "oh no the happy one is in love with the grumpy one"

[@MegaLpso]

The fact people look at Hermes and say that he's a manipulator and a bad person is really upsetting because I can't find a SINGLE THING that makes him a terrible person or a manipulator. YoshiP in a interview was also super confused about why people would even think it.

[@Contevent]

True. He is depressed, without therapist, without friends or peers, and with far too much power. The guy broke. Sure, he did very, absolutely evil things, but he isn't by nature evil.

[@flaskhjertako]

@@Contevent it's honestly a series of actions spurred on by desperation.

[@samwilkinson9309]

Radz at Han really couldn't catch a break this expansion, never the less, this ending was beautiful, found myself tearing up on many occasion. I wondered how they're out do Shadowbringers, but here we are. Endwalker really was a great experience, it made me want to play through the whole thing again.

[@Taakuyaa]

6:46:00 to answer why people like Zenos... its because... like all well written villains... he has a point you know. People make up whatever justification or rationalizing they want for the things they do... money, fame, power, happiness, fulfillment, excitement, and on and on, people want these things, and if you ask any individual person why they do it, odds are you will either get some poorly thought out answer like "because its fun" or such things, or perhaps if its something like money/fame/etc you may get an answer related to being able to go/do as they please... but to what end? to what end with all of it? Zenos as a character asks the question of "what is the purpose? what is it you do all these things for?" And all the side characters barely have an answer, if any answer at all. They have their morals and virtues and reasons for what they do in their own head, but most of it is based on cultural or ingrained beliefs or views they've grown up with, but that they've given little to no thought about it or what it actually means to them, WHY do they believe and think as they do, and seek the things they seek? Just like most people in the real world would barely have an answer if one at all. Zenos himself never found some great answer, and the only thing he found meaning in was combat that pushed his body and soul beyond their limits. its only through his interactions with the WoL that he finds there are true other answers to the question, and its why at the end he is no longer treating WoL like some rabid beast to hunt and fight with, but as a reflection or equal to himself, the same but opposite. But regardless, he becomes so warped in his own life, because no one else ever was able to answer the question that he was, "what is the purpose?" It was always trivial or trite garbage based on things even the people answering him couldnt really define or explain. Even in the CS at that point the guy hes talking to (forgot his name) cant honestly come up with an answer, because hes never thought about it before. And thats why people like him as a villain. good villains have a point to make. They're not just evil or stupid for the sake of it, theres a reason for it, intelligent though often irrational reasons behind their actions and views. And Zenos does fit that bill. Like him or not, he started out as a mediocre villain for a long time because his thought process wasnt laid out completely, but over time its been explain and explored better, and people have to actually think about how to answer his question. That is what makes a good, they pose a question that the player can reflect on themselves and how it relates to the real world. What is your purpose? Why do you do what you do? Why do you get up? Why do you go to work? Why do you play video games? Just to survive? To make an otherwise depressing existence of simply striving to continue "existing" somewhat tolerable by distracting yourself with tasty food or novelty games? Is that really any kind of meaningful or rational purpose? These are question that real life people should ask themselves, and its a question Zenos poses not just to the WoL, but to the player behind the screen as well. That.. is why people like him.

[@zynclori]

10:28:32 That healer was using Cure 1 in a 89 dungeon so I would say props to Shen for killing it as WAR and getting through with all those juicy self heals.

[@Spritus3241]

Just because it's not as beefy as cure II doesn't mean you can't use it occasionally to top off that last 10% or so, it's just a precaution.

[@zynclori]

@@Spritus3241 I can see it being used to top off a tank at the end of a pull or if they're just missing a smidgen of health but they were using cure 1 mid pull, where most of the damage was being taken.

[@DeathIsLethal]

@@zynclori Yeah, they really need to either get rid of cure 1 or change it to be more useful. Too many players get tricked by the free cure trait into thinking cure 1 is important. It's especially annoying since WHM at level 90 has a few too many buttons imo. EDIT: I didn't realize I was responding to a 2 month old comment before I posted, sry for that lol

[@thebigg3416]

The Answer was actually made for this specific expansion. It fits so well

[@themanwithamachinegun4618]

"He has done nothing!" Yea I guess patricide isn't as flashy as genocide when you think about it.

[@FrostiOrca]

thing about Zenos is he is Desynthesized to everything. Growing up being experimented on, yet spoiled cause he's the Heir, then having Dreams of Amaurot's final days since childhood; Man is to a point that everything is either trivial or boring. He's boring in the same sense that when you see someone that just doesn't wanna be at an event and is only there cause its mandatory is boring, of course they are, they're bored. Now imagine that event is Life itself. Zenos even points out if you ask someone why they live, they'll give what answer suits them. What makes Zenos so Tragic is the fact that while most people if say something important was happening like the APOCALYPSE, they'd be willing to drop say their Art career for the time being to help those in need. Zenos however is to a point he even sees that as the equivalent to "oh someone brought a bag of plastic cups to the potluck. yay" so for him the WoL is that first thing he has ever found enjoyment in. and anyone whos been anywhere they don't wanna be, can prolly attest. If you find something to do that you even remotely enjoy you'll go do that instead cause it beats being bored as hell

[@Pompadourius]

Not gonna lie, the Count Fortemps voice during the walk hit me really hard.

[@Twocoolman115]

Considering his voice actor died a few months ago, it honestly makes it that much more impactful than the other voices.

[@ikilledezio]

When G'raha did what the others did, I was already sobbing, saying "Not again!" and that was with crying at every other thing since the end of Elpis. I was so emotionally worn out that I just didnt feel right for a couple of days tbh. Close in the distance is a complex song, because it's depressing but also hopeful, but also somehow full of determination. Both my bf and I love it. Though, it will take me a few more days before I touch it again. I love this fucking game.

[@BroadBoulders]

11:19:16 Same man. When the lyrics kicked in I started bawling cause I thought it was just that instrumental track that had been playing a few times before. "My brave little spark."

[@lordentropy460]

17:26:30 - One of the funniest and best timed Shenpai moments of all time.

[@Mika_Mika06]

18:32:14 First playthrough ive seen with a male character, didn’t notice that was different- For female characters it’s “as she foretold” For male, “as he foretold” Azem??? I’m excited for the raid story series

[@arseniykorchevskiy1564]

Even without that, it was pretty obvious he was talking about us, that’s why he remembers seeing us in Elpis most likely.

[@BrixyStories]

That moment right there, when the final "Leave the Rising Stones?" came up, I too was hit with that hesitation. So many emotions came over me before I finally hit that okay button to finish the quest. What an incredible game. What an incredible journey.

[@vfaulkon]

It's okay, Shen. The scene with Moenbryda's parents was the first scene that had me crying too.

[@lunarsong1948]

Having the Ul'dah day music play through that scene in the credits really kills it for me, it's much better with flow behind it. Whoever told her to skip is evil af.

[@mten10th67]

The reason I thoroughly enjoy Zenos as a character is because he genuinely views the WoL as a friend who is just too busy to "play" with him. It's sort of endearing. He never gets angry about it, he just keeps trying until he gets the rematch he's been waiting for.

[@Mhantrax]

Yup, and another streamer seems to miss the point. That man is the only one who understands your struggle. Well, one of two people...He is only the second person in the entire game to actually ask you if you are fulfilled, found joy, or are being pressed by the burden of it all. The only other was Venat in Epis on the bridge between the buildings. If you listen to Venat during that sequence she talks about how getting to truly know people, understand them, accepts all about them, has opened up an understanding of a far deeper and fulfilling life, she transcended her, "banal and triviality," and found connection to something deeper in life. This was the genesis of her deep love and commitment for other human beings. It wasn't love only when they did what fits your narrow, trivial view of what's right, or good, but for all of humanity, including the ugliness. Zenos was trying to do the same. He understood that people are often times just zombies walking through life, accepting the smallness of it as fulfillment. The way I see it is this: Venat was a healthy version of someone sought this understanding. Zenos was a traumatized, scarred, incredibly flawed human being seeking the same. In the end, he found it. In his own way, he attached to you and in doing so, asked, and cared, about your journey. Even your friends, the scions, never truly check in on you in a deep, authentic manner that Venat and Zenos did. But it really is a perfect rendition of human being. this streamer, like almost all before her, lets the hate for the character blind her to a deeper understanding and acceptance in life. Had she a Taoist perspective, she wouldn't have judged with hate and malice, instead just taken in and learned what Zenos had to teach her. Which may have been one of the important lessons in the game.

[@Tenkuu-san]

@@Mhantrax That is not even remotely true. The Scions regularly concern themselves with your wellbeing, and unlike Zenos, they see not only the burden of being a hero, but the loneliness of being the one who is protected at all costs as others sacrifice themselves for your sake. And please don't ever compare Zenos to Venat. Where Venat loved all life not in spite of their flaws but because they were a part of them, Zenos hated everything and everyone and saw them as worthless. He himself admits that his motives are selfish and petty and doesn't care to even try to be a better person. Even coming to Ultima Thule was a selfish action on his part, it had nothing to do with helping us.

[@zenixvampirchik652]

@@Tenkuu-san but like - that's what person above said more or less. Zenos is quite literally like a WoL - that got raised in most fucked up place, with fucked up relationships and all. On top of that he was too sharp for his own sake, seeing a lot of negativity and... plainless of people. And that's a potential azem-like guy. Azem that thrills from new experience, eccentric people, adventure, exploration n shit. Seeing new stuff and all. For person that have similiar urges and interests (even if he didn't recognize them at a time) to be stuck for all his childhood in seclusion, with bad influence all around and most plain people that he saw trough without clear understanding of why they are wasting thier time like that and all. His relationships in family were bad pretty much from the start too, plus insanely talented, he didn't even experienced struggle before. Fights were the first thing that managed to grab him somewhat. Drag him from his boring pointless existence. Ah right, there also were dreams of fucking city burning and people dying all around him all the time. That certainly can't have a bad influence on child's psychic, right? Makes me wonder what could ve happend if Zenos would ve been raised by someone like Venat in her happy days

[@Tenkuu-san]

@@zenixvampirchik652 Sorry to be bursting any bubbles here, but Zenos would have been just another nobody had he not been born a prince. Likely not even a fighter sinced he learned that because of his heritage, and likely not an adventurer either since he's more of a stalker than someone who's actually interested in wandering the world. And pretty much the only reason he can even offer us a challenge by the end of Endwalker is his stolen Echo. It's actually the complete opposite of Azem, who we know cares about people and helps others out just because they can. Zenos simply doesn't have that interest in other people, nor for that matter in doing anything that he considers to be monotone. You can blame it partly on depression, sure, but sociopaths are also born, not made, and he is one. A tragic childhood doesn't excuse a violently criminal adulthood.

[@Stad122]

​@@Tenkuu-san You missed the point greatly. No shit Zeno's would have turned out differently if he wasn't born how he was born. That's the entire point, that he was his own person with goals matching ours, twisted in perception by upbringing and lack of contact, whereas ours was fleshed out by it. I seriously don't get this obsession with Azem. Yeah, you're the inheritor of an ancients will, get in line, so is everyone else. You may be closer to yours than others, but that's not what you're supposed to believe is special about you.

[@thebigg3416]

That Venat music is absolutely one of the best music I've heard! It's easily comparable to Answer and Dragonsong!

[@TideasOfficial]

isn't it Answer?

[@thebigg3416]

@@TideasOfficial the onr for endwalker. I thinknits called flow

[@magicalduckye2356]

It's called "Your Awnser" if what I've seen is correct.

[@kiraina25]

@@magicalduckye2356 That's for the Hydaelin fight. If he's talking about the soloduty, that is indeed Flow ~ Band ver.

[@magicalduckye2356]

@@kiraina25 Ah, good to know, thanks!

[@NatyaVT]

Ultima Thule was a rollercoaster of emotion from beginning to end, but though my heart was breaking I had managed to keep a strong facade until then it was the twins that finally shattered me.

[@norwayjalyn]

Final Fantasy XIV: Science Project Gone Wrong

[@nahuel3433]

"We Asked Different Stars About Life, You Won't BELIEVE What They Said"

[@zoeyvalkyrie]

I just wanted to shake him and scream "I know you're depressed, but this is why your society has a legal requirement for peer review!"

[@Harl3inger]

I kind of understand that feeling like your character should retire after having done this expansion. When I first made my character, he was a battle hungry warrior obsessed with finding stronger foes, but ended up growing as a person through the journey and ironically his rivalry with his dark reflection in Zenos, the person he very well would have been. After that fight at the end of the game, I feel like his journey is done and I should retire the character and replace him. Personally, I'll see what the next patch brings and consider who to replace him with.

[@RukukuRuku]

I kinda felt the same way, but less retire from adventuring, more hang up just the axe, pick up some tools and become an omni-crafter. Nice to create something for once instead of destroying, as the old saying goes.

[@castoputa]

I can see that! For myself I intend to go back to decorating and telling tales of my travels after a few shandies… retirement! LETS GOOOOOO!

[@sniderealism2410]

I can see that, but for me personally, my character's journey has not ended yet. Sure, he started off as a bright eyed curious-about-everything adventurer, and the events up until now did mature him a lot (and made him sick of being a hero). But his undying love of exploration and discoveries will make it impossible for him to put down his daggers.

[@ChipotleKanetsu]

Same. Might job skip for next expac.

[@Verdugo_Arulaq]

Yeah I definitely see that being the case for a lot of people I don’t think I will, for starters I’m too fond of this one and I think he’s not done, so long as he breathes there’s adventure to be done. Secondly, I am too lazy to character create another WoL lmao

[@Laerei]

Shenpai eating and choking on her food every now and then when surprising things are being revealed is pure mood. I am of course speaking of when she met Venat at 2:35:00 ish.

[@Edzter]

Seeing voxer punch zenos was just so good

[@MugiwarasNakama]

I honestly feel that Venat is the most badass FF female heroine of all time. Fuck Lightning.

[@arceptor]

She didnt do anything though

[@MugiwarasNakama]

@@arceptor excuse me? I think you need to scoop out that 12 grams you call a brain and buy yourself a new one.

[@arceptor]

@@MugiwarasNakama what did she do. Also nice typical ffxiv player response calling people brainless. Community really is as trash as world of warcrafts.

[@MugiwarasNakama]

@@arceptor I was assuming you were part of the FF community when you said this. As the context of my comment is something that really is only something a Final Fantasy fan would understand. If you aren't part of the ff community your response to my comment comes off as a little child intruding in the convrersation of adults. I meant no offense and since you really don't have any context at all I'll answer your question kindly. She fought for tens of thousands of years to the point where her very existence was frayed away to prevent an inevitable despair from destroying the world. She fought with both love and fierceness against the unavoidably and made a miracle happen. I recomend next time wording yourself better when entering a conversation you have no context of and explaining yourself better. I apologize also for flying off the handle at you.

[@arceptor]

@@MugiwarasNakama she had others fight for her. Also nice attempt at justifying your behavior of an asshole. I like venat.

[@amitamaru]

That final fistfight actually looks really good with the Beast Gauge aura on.

[@rc-roda9370]

The Ragnarok literally opened a slipspace rupture. This game just keeps on surprising me.

[@VeryVeryMelon]

This is one of the few pieces of media that makes me shed tears every time. Not out of sadness, but.. Something.

[@Qrczaqq]

The final "Come" for the road killed me :D

[@peterclaymore2239]

Rejecting Zeno’s words of pushing one’s body and soul to their limits… while wielding a extreme weapon. I’m joking if course but I find it very funny how META Zeno’s words are in that moment to a lot of the FF14 players.

[@ignitedrowlets5776]

2:36:06 I'm disappointed that she missed the line about the volcano

[@NatyaVT]

To be fair, we didn't all read the Tales from Shadows.

[@Laerei]

5:44:33 This question was answered in Shadowbringers. The Convocation created Zodiark to end the final days. After that was done, they intended to sacrifice newborn life to Zodiark to bring back the brethren they had sacrificed to create Zodiark. Venat and others disagreed with this and created Hydaelyn to keep Zodiark in check. Hydaelyn did that by sundering the world and Zodiark. Thus keeping Zodiark alive to keep the Final Days from happening once more but also too weak to fulfill the second goal of the Convocation through the sacrifice of future lives. This you should've have already known. As to why exactly Hydaelyn chose to sunder Zodiark and the world? You'll find that out eventually, dear reader who has yet to play Endwalker to the end.

[@wontononionslicer1004]

The power of limit break is dynamis if you noticed

[@ElywinCarrinithshinyhunting]

Welcome and well met, my brave little spark.

[@dbkunbr]

People swallowing pride for not liking Zenos being helped by him in the last trial, thank you yoshida, if a person doesn't like zenos they will be forced to swallow it LOL Love zenos, great villain!

[@dazzamcg2369]

Zenos was definitely the best villain and character and a worthy foe for the warrior of light.

[@zeehero7280]

I hate zenos, but don't think he's an awful villain just a simple one. his help at the end was appreciated especially since we got to give him his contest and finish him off.

[@poggamus4330]

he had a great backstory that wasnt revealed during stormblood, but in a written format on their website, he was a boy with genius combat abilities, his own teacher tried to kill him cause he saw he could become a great threat, they should have shown his lonliness growing up with no friends or equal, until he met us. yotsuyu stole his pity arc in stormblood.

[@DawnAfternoon]

You can definitely hate Zenos while also appreciating how is he written. The last person I expected to hear a nugget of wisdom was from Zenos himself.

[@Posexe1]

Binch got shoehorned in just to become a glorified ground lmao

[@hiddenmaster6062]

6:47:00 NOTHING!? The fuck have you been looking at? He ruined Elidibus' plans of using his body. He destroyed Black Rose, his father's killer doomsday gas. He burned down his empire. Tried extremely hard to be THE BAD GUY just to bait the "hero" to vanquish him in grand fight like last time, only to be bamboozled and ignored. Which he flat out acknowledged and said in this scene. And you think he's done NOTHING at this point!?!?! Like what are you expecting? A sob story that rivals Emet's? Or the body swap trick. It was obvious Zenos is trying to get the WoL to hate him. He's "THE BAD GUY". Sure he was going to kill the WoL's friends, but if he REALLY wanted to...Wouldn't you think he'd didn't take his merry ass time getting there? Like the WoL was on death's door, crawling and fumbling from the city all the way to the camp and still made it in time. It's so obvious. He blatantly spells it out to you multiple times. Way to fucking miss the point!

[@poggamus4330]

some people dont get zenos cause he never got a backstory cutscene of him being alone with no friends or equal. i guess combat was his friend. but then he finds us the warrior of light loved by all and was able to beat him in combat. i guess he didnt want to kill of our comrades cause the fight would be out of vengeance not purely a 1v1 match. im glad i gave zenos his chance, no distractions, just us fighting to see who is stronger.

[@midlanderhyur6035]

The funniest analogy I've heard of Zenos is from Alex. That he is like your boyfriend with the hard on just for you but is still a gentleman and will let you be because you're not yet in the mood. He will wait for you to be at your best condition and will finally help you do things that needs to be done just so you can finally hit it off with him.

[@mjtechnoviking44]

She does that

[@Kikoou]

I think what makes Zenos nice to me is not anything like Emet or Elidibus. I like Zenos for the two reason that he is an established rival, which I am very much in love with, I always like those, and the fact that Zenos is also just a fun character. He doesn't provide much to the plot, I feel like-whether or not people like it-he is not suppose to contribute to the main plot, but to more of provide the player a nemesis. Emet was killed because he had to be, Elidibus was sealed to stop the sudden continuation of the Eight Calamity, Fandaniel forced your hand to kill him, while Zenos is gonna get killed for the sole reason that you want AND need to kill him, you wanna get rid of him, he is the one that continues to chase after you and you alone because he doesn't care about what's going on, because his story is with you, not the Ascians. He is certainly not amazing, no Emet or Elidibus level, not even Fordola level, but he's there because to be a personal villain. That, and he's also just funny unintentionally with how corny he can get with his goth poetry.

[@eatherjourneyman8357]

I’m not entirely sure how you came to the conclusion that zenos didn’t contribute much to the plot. Zenos is literally the reason that the vast majority of events in base storm blood happened. The only reason the empire wasn’t able to bomb eorzia into oblivion with black rose was because he killed his dad to end the project for good. Our actions on the first ensured black rose wouldn’t be a calamity but it sure as hell would have still won garlemald the war. Him enabling fandanal is the reason why endwalker happened at all. Zenos has been one of the strongest plot movers in the entire game by far

[@Kikoou]

@@eatherjourneyman8357 Well, I kinda meant more like the fact that a lot of the things that happened are because of other people and Zenos is kinda just there being like "nope not happening" and that's it. He changed a lot, but the efforts to do so wasn't very much.

[@kootiepatra]

Zenos was a love-to-hate villain for me, I think. And I did hate him, like, a LOT. But I could also tell that this was very explicitly what he was there for in the story. Where nearly every major villain since HW was varying degrees of nuanced and sympathetic, and defeating them was always kinda sad, with Zenos I could just say, "You, sir, are a PROBLEM and have GOTTA GO." I don't think he's exactly just "evil for evil's sake"--I feel like something probably happened to him in his upbringing and/or Ascian-ificiation that turned him into this completely myopic hedonist who only likes one thing. I had a lot of questions about how he became what he is that this expac never fully answered (which actually makes me wonder if we'll see him again in the far future, or at least get further insight into his story). But whatever broke him, or even if it's innate, his life choices have been wholly abhorrent and it's easy to hand out his thrashing with a clear conscience.

[@Wuffskers]

Also like "fight-sexual" characters are often very fun. People who hate Zenos I often wonder if they've seen Hunter X Hunter and if they have what their opinions are of Hisoka because Hisoka is a very similar character tbh. One other thing I think characters like this do is their singular focus is able to undermine other more grandiose plots in really interesting ways. Zenos does this multiple times, we have this huge clash of Garlemald vs Eorzea and even though Zenos is technically on the garlemald side he could not actually care less about garlemald, he basically straight up says fuck countries fuck flags fuck allegiances. Similarly when he shows up at the end he is so utterly and completely unimpressed and indifferent to the endsinger, treated it as a mere nuisance. Even the embodiment of celestial existential despair doesn't mean shit to him. Things that motivate and affect normal people do not affect characters like zenos and so in spite of having a very singular understandable and relatively simple focus and motivation, characters like zenos actually become sort of agents of chaos because nothing else is sacred and who knows what they're gonna do. No "normal" person would gorge themselves on a ludicrous amount of aether to turn into a dragon and fly across space just to help his senpai so he can finally get the duel he wants, but Zenos's single-mindedness allows him to do these chaotic things where a more "reasonable" villain it wouldn't make sense.

[@LuckyRyo9989]

"Why does he look like Xemnas" WHERE IS THE LIE THO I SAID THE SAME THING (also 10/10 he's still hot lol)

[@quinnie_here]

if I had a penny for every time Zenos says "COME" I'd be fuckin rich as hell

[@DBellBoi]

Literally trying to 5brain the plot made me laugh. "Your wrong, 10 second later, Wait you might be right". lol

[@Contevent]

Her talking over Alisaie's speech to Zrnos was sooooo frustrating

[@michaeloneill2746]

Glad you beat it so I could have someone else cry when I did

[@finnianheart]

fandaniel's voice actor is a true gift. hermes speech ALWAYS hits so hard!

[@Rose-Badwolf]

Hear the song of creations end, Feel the sorrow at hopes demise, Think and find your way in the darkness. A 10 year arc come to fruition. Gives me goosebumps

[@TokyoMystify]

I'm slightly sad you chose the last answer, Zeno gets so happy when you choose the first one lol

[@baylaust]

He was pretty happy with the 3rd one too, honestly. The only answer where he doesn't seem satisfied is the 2nd, really.

[@deficit06]

I love how with those 3 simple answers you can see each player personal relationship with Zenos. The first option is for those of us that, deep down, understand his bloodlust, because... well... we are playing a game with a lot of combat, and we love combat, lets be sincere here, our only difference with Zenos (outside of FABOLOUS hair) is that we care about the world and the people, while he doesn't give a single fuck. The second option is for those that really dont understand the guy and dont care that much about him, but know that he must be stopped now or he will become a problem later. The third option is for those, like Shenpai that were TIRED of him and think that he overstayed his welcome way too much, for those who HATE the guy and NOW, finally, FINALLY can put him down for good. Good lord, I love this game.

[@MenrvaS]

@@deficit06 I chose option 3, but i broke down from his final speech because I've come to understand his joy and happiness, and why he yearned for it so much. He was one dimensional, one note and over the top villain, but that one dimension was his sole reason to live, his only known joy to share. In the end, ive come to like him and I see myself, a former Zenos hater, accept and truly become his friend-rivalry. I hope his final words are "i find it to be satisfying"

[@ShujiMikami]

@@MenrvaS Being one-dimensional does not necessarily make a character bad. If anything, it helped elevate his character and give us such a satisfying conclusion. From the beginning, he was presented as a foil to the WoL, although SB only showed us that through the prism of his overwhelming bloodlust. But in reality, Zenos is someone who was born with the potential to be an adventure-seeker like us, yet was denied the chance to act upon it every step of the way. Born into royalty, shackled by the duty of a son of Garlemald, bereft of parental love and shunned as a monster. The only outlet he was afforded is that of combat, of hunting the savages for the glory of the Empire. And even when he eventually casts aside all that bound him and accepts the title of "viator"(traveler), he finds that there's nothing there left for him - no comrades to share victories with, no little things to enjoy, no big threats to test his might against. Save for you - a bridge of friendship that has been burned long before either of you were made aware of it. So, the only thing left for him is to push forward and burn the candle of his life once and for all - at the very least, it beats succumbing to despair and becoming a hollow shell. One thing I absolutely love about Zenos is how the authors made sure one could infer all that through what little screen time he was afforded. That final speech just helped recontextualize this aspect for those who haven't caught on early.

[@ximakun]

I chose the third one myself because I really can’t stand him. Watching the playthrough again now I see how they made Venat and Zenos kind of opposites. Venat’s speech about understanding her call for adventure, her love for the world and its people and finding joy in the journey is the exact opposite of Zenos’ lack of purpose and meaning in life. I’m glad they gave everyone the chance to express our feelings towards Zenos in that last interaction.

[@AzureKyle]

Honestly, WoL vs Zenos at the end is such a Naruto vs Sasuke moment.

[@davejacksonsolutions]

Yoshi P reading over the first draft: This is awesome! epic quests, epic fights, crazy fast leveling... so when do we make the players start balling? (flips the pages over a bit): yep, perfect. no one stands a chance. (Moenbryda's parents meet up with Urianger @kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXSmaZeair58aas )

[@TerryVideoZone]

yeah I started shooting hoops like a madman at that part

[@eSohae]

It was so intense. The ultima thule part mostly. I couldn't stop the tears from flowing too. And the music

[@bigjohn146]

Shenpai to answer your question at 2:36:10 Venat does indeed say "she" if you are a female character

[@Neo-Midgar]

Everyone I watch was soooo convinced Hydaelyn was evil lol.

[@Shalltear773]

I know this is an old comment I'm responding to but I can sort of understand why since a lot of characters that've been portrayed as exclusively benevolent usually have had something darker going on behind the scenes. there's that and learning she becomes a primal which probably did naught to improve peoples' opinions until after learning more. just like I think it was with Zodiark until people started being given more information about him, such as saving the world from calamity.

[@Kebin13]

Every time i see someone not understanding how that the "that, i cant deny" is a universal right answer for all kind of players and playstyles, i die a little inside, thinking that maybe the endsinger wasnt wrong in wanting the universe to die.

[@luc1ferous]

I love how grumpy Hades is.... I love it!

[@TEHxZOMBIE]

you know your work is great when you can make someone cry for nearly 5 hours straight

[@omegagilgamesh]

In the ending, when responding to Alphinaud crying that he thought they'd lost us, my canon response was, in a strained, croaking voice, "Yeah, you deserved to think that, after what you assholes put me through, seeing you leave me one by one. Turn around is fair play, bitches."

[@ElitistAdam]

My favorite part of the end there was watching your life flash before your eyes as the WoL. It gave me chills.

[@lionheartgoodfellow3770]

So, after 10 years this arc finally comes to a close...it feels kind of bittersweet after following it for so long Man, what a ride it was Thanks for allowing us to follow you on your journey through these years Shen, through the good, the bad, and hilariously funny times😁 Looking forward to see where you go from here! And remember: never stop being yourself and have fun doing what you want to do👍

[@MrDoot-hj2ir]

Venat >> All other heroes of the franchise

[@arseniykorchevskiy1564]

that cutscene after elpis and her last cutscene are just incredible

[@SchrödingerKousae]

"ItS tOo EaRlY fOr SpEcUlAtIoN" Literally what? People speculate where things will go before a new expansion is even announced. It's practically human nature to fill in the blanks and try to predict what's next.

[@laurakane2252]

Please don't be Zenos. lmao :D You all had me in stitches. That music on the way up, had me balling. Thanks for sharing!

[@drachepumpernickel7056]

the music to the area, i noticed through each "civilization" after the scions open the way to the next area, there is a little more added to the song, until with G'raha the lyrics kick in. also absolutely no shame in crying. it is the exact reaction they were going for. sadness but with that beautiful upswell of hope driving us forward

[@crazygamer4260]

"Zenos has done nothing." Me when I don't pay attention Also the body swap wasn't all fandaniel, Zenos has shown in Stormblood he can possess bodies and it was only possible to take yours because you were not in it.

[@KrailCarden]

In my head, the sequence of the Ragnarok coming home and being seen in the sky, in order for your ship to be seen in so many places, yall MFers must've circled the entire planet like 3 or 4 times trying to find a place to park in Old Sharlean. lol Alphinaud: There! Alisae: Ugh, damned pirates are parked there... Urianger: What about hither? Livingway: I don't think we'd fit... WOL: Okay.... TAKE HER AROUND AGEIN! Everyone: Ugggghhhhhhh.....

[@SteinarrBattlefist]

Warrior of Light was using a linkshell to coordinate the folks on the surface to take all the parking spots. They are just that stoked about being on a spaceship and don't want to get off of it.

[@leafgreenbeast]

snuggly the crow-girl is great

[@ringlhach]

The top comments aren't talking about it, but I absolutely recommend running the 89 dungeon with a trust in Scenario mode. There's quite a bit of commentary.

[@Contevent]

Zenos learned in the end. He accepted to help the Scions in exchange for a bridge to you, he respected his part of the bargain and quietly let you finish ypur stuff, and then he *asked* you for a duel, instead of controving some life or death situation to get ypur bloodlust up. He learned to accept that you and him may share bloodlust, but you have a whole lot more depth than he does. He sees life as boring, and you his only light, and he learned, in the end, to stop trying to coerce you into fighting. In the end, he even propose something mutual, in his eyes, the only thing he can give you, offer you, is a roaring challenge, and it is a gift in the sense that you can refuse. So yes, Zenos learned, and in fact it redeemed him to me in the end. Zenos is boring as fuck, he is Omega lite, because Omega had at least the desire to return home beneath his quest for power. But in his last moments, Zenos just... accepted that. He lamented that he could not bring more, but offered you the only thing he could. And while it's true that he desperztly wanted you to fight him, the fact that he went to the end of the universe for it and was ready to let you go without a fuss is, in my eyes, enough respect for me to respect him in turn.

[@pedroscoponi4905]

I don't think I'd call it a _redemption_ but he clearly underwent an arc. It's not like people need to like it, or like him, but it is without a doubt a well written character.

[@Contevent]

@@pedroscoponi4905 Well I didn't meant redemption as morally clean, my bad for the misunderstanding. I meant it made his character interesting compared to what it was before, it made him well written, and not a one note villain with no other quality than being strong.

[@KaiboStudios]

I literally cone back to this Vod just to watch that final fight. Pure grandeur.

[@yaboiguzma4494]

Shen immediately tearing up in the first few steps of the walking section is the mood of the year.

[@AtelierMcMuttonArt]

6:44:20 Zenos over here calling out Emet-Selch fans

[@SchrödingerKousae]

I gotta say. First I only realized after jumping through the video that it's 19 hours long. Second, after Hydaelyn, I got out after that cutscene and it all hit me like a freight train and I just started crying and was like "......She's dead?" I think that was honestly the most delayed emotional response I've ever had. Like holy shit. My brain was the epiphany of the Apple loading icon to the fact that she was dying. Then it loaded, and it loaded a freight train of emotion that hit me like a thermonuclear missile. Honestly I did not think they'd be able to one-up Shadowbringers, but they fucking did more than that, they knocked it out of the fucking park, like holy shit HOW?! LIKE 80% OF THE CUTSCENES MADE ME CRY! I don't cry easily, but that's one reason I love FFXIV, it breaks my emotional kneecaps and makes me cry with it's tremendously amazing story and characters, music and writing, voice acting and world building. I can't cry easily, buy I want to sometimes, and this game gives it to me, and not fake crying, real, raw, emotional crying. Also god damn, with G'raha being my favorite anything ever, seeing his sacrifice scene again destroyed me, far more than the first time I saw it as I was probably already processing so much when playing through it.

[@elliegiles2537]

Just finished this myself today and oh my god my heart!! TTATT What a wonderful journey! I'm so excited to see what's next for the story!!

[@AzureKyle]

Ok, seeing this confirms something I speculated during my own playthrough. Azem's gender matches your own. As I played through with my female Miqote, Azem was always referred to as 'she/her', but here they're referred to as 'he/him', matching your character's gender.

[@DisturbedShaman]

Kinda disappointed that Shen didn't go with that I can't deny....

[@kenkurogue101]

I love how Elidibus tells us we can't do anything to change the future while in the past. Even though we just spent an entire expansion doing just that! Lol This is why G'Raha is the most powerful hero ever. He was able to change history.

[@Shalltear773]

I don't know which situation it was with G'Raha as it's been a while since I've played FFXIV, but I can't help but wonder if it's with different circumstances since Elidibus recognizing you'd already visited Elpis from his perspective means that everything you did there had already been done even if it appeared otherwise.

[@amsyarmalek7]

9:58:43 - Yes, Shenpai. You can fly anywhere but not in the spacecraft area. Once you pass the door, your flying mount will automatically land on the ground & you’ll receive a notification that says something like “...your mount cannot fly here”

[@angel__king]

I just love the “FF main theme (trap remix)” that they played when you’re returning

[@eufonioun]

I am a grown ass man and I simp for Emet.

[@stargazerblue186]

Trust me, we all got emotional like that when the full song playeed 15:19:13

[@benlee8225]

going into the new star. Cue charactor creation when get to center XD