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@PingPongReviews10 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts, is Anders right or not? Were the umpires able to resolve the issue correctly?
@paulusantonius-vj8bq10 ай бұрын
Anders looking for easy point here , just should have finished it like a man
@alext902010 ай бұрын
a rule is a rule.. and that's it.. no need for debate
@PatrickStobberup10 ай бұрын
@@paulusantonius-vj8bq but you should know the rules? so your comment is inapropriate so read a book please and save me and the others from your nonsense thanks :)
@NikolayZabrodin10 ай бұрын
That rule is that players cannot stop a rally, they should continue playing until the ball is out of play. It is up to the judge to decide whos point it is. So, in this case, Lind should continue the rally. And when the ball would be out of play, he could come to the umpire or the judge and turn her attention to his opponent's behavior.
@alext902010 ай бұрын
Saying that the player should not stop the rally.. is like saying a player could not ever stop a ball that it's obviously going to be out. A player should be alowed to stop a ball at any time.. and then decided if he was right or not. Is like saying that if the opponent would punch him in the face.. he would still be forced to play that ball.. cause that's the rule :))
@wanderingdog697810 ай бұрын
Noshad playing 10pin bowling was the Highlight of the Match.
@anderslind857210 ай бұрын
I should just have finished the point but his cheering sound made me think that my ball wouldnt hit the table and confused me.. i did however get a little bit too emotional which i regret. But in the rules it can never be his point. Its either a replay or my point
@user-vr1bk2nk1x10 ай бұрын
Omg real Lind
@user-gm2pb1tu9l10 ай бұрын
Yeah I think if it was unintentional then it should be replayed
@michaelshaw765210 ай бұрын
Yeah, by rule, it should be your point although Noshad didn't mean to disrupt you. BTW, enjoy your play style, great touch and creative, reminding me another great player from the same country, Michael Maze.
@Daniel-om4rd10 ай бұрын
Which rule(s) are you referring to? A lot of people seem very sure about this, but so far I haven't seen anyone being able to quote an actual official rule that supports the view that it should be your point. And ITTF's Laws of Table Tennis is very easy to find and only like 10 pages long. The umpire definitely could have (and should have, imo) called a let during play, though.
@shilongecho284010 ай бұрын
According to TT laws, if a player makes a disturbance sound during a point, the opponent should be granted the choice whether the point should be replayed. So I think you are right.
@h.p.7344 ай бұрын
Throwing the racket out of anger at the end of the game 😂😂 really shows maturity and sportsmanship 👏
@niamhoconnor898610 ай бұрын
Two of the most exciting players to watch right now, and when they play each other they end up arguing. What a pity
@josephrobinson88948 ай бұрын
Wow awesome first game, Anders killed it 👍🏻.
@KYchiu40210 ай бұрын
It reminds me the double game of FZD/Wang Chuqin and Lebrun brother
@pribroprobi699610 ай бұрын
There is no doubt about it. The rule says if one player makes any disturbing noices while playing, that player looses the point. It's alright if the referee didnt't know the rule but the supervisor should've known that.
@thebawzrittenhouse143310 ай бұрын
It's not okay for the referee
@stacka973610 ай бұрын
this rules exists but no it isnt the point for the one who speaks the judge decides
@bengtbengt385010 ай бұрын
So you're saying that Ovcharov should lose the point every time he grunts?
@josephgospa40319 ай бұрын
As a former professional table tennis player, during my early days I found all kind of "tricky" players who would do the unimaginable dirty tricks to have some advantage over you, Ex. switching the ball to a non-official one or broken ball, screaming out loud while serving, screaming out loud after making a point and staring at you in a defiant and disrespectful way, bad mouthing provocative/offensive remarks against you after making a good point without looking directly at you, hitting strongly the ball on purpose against your body specially when they are about to lose the match and acting innocent, stopping the game 2 or 3 times right after you serve claiming they weren't ready, intentionally wetting the ball before they serve, having their people staring at you maliciously and screaming you some names just to piss you off while the ball wasn't in play, illegal serving specially when players were penholders, purposely bad counting points or dishonestly claiming ball didn't hit the table, or calling off a good serve because it was supposedly a bad one, no sportsmanship at all with certain players who denied the use of an official alternative orange ball when opponent was purposely wearing an all-white attire, etc etc. Back then we would get one(1) referee only per table in National or international tournaments. Open tournaments didn't get one sometimes. Those were the times without cameras, smartphones and technology. In a few words, doing anything to break your concentration to get you mad so they could win, this applies only to certain players who knew would normally lose under regular circumstances against you and also with some veteran players specially during open tournaments with no age limits. Rules exist for a reason.
@michel45008 ай бұрын
This also works in lower leagues ;) I hate when opponents take looooong time for a serve for example. Easy way to break the flow
@freunddeswaldes5758 ай бұрын
I know exactly what you are talking about. My highest level was German 4th Division, where a lot of youngsters who are trying to go pro and a lot of veterans play. The amount of players who intentionally try to psychologically manipulate you is insanely high. You cant even do anything against it, when players from each team must do the job of the umpire. And even when you go higher on level, there are so many bad umpires, its insane. Its a huge issue in this sport, that so many players get away with unsportsmanlike behaviour because we dont have a decent way to punish it through umpires.
@DuckDylan3 ай бұрын
i play semi professionally for the under 18 club in denmark, and i cant help but agree with pretty much everything you said. Mostly the illegal serves and shouting either from the player or the bench is the most irritating.
@daverbook3 ай бұрын
Table tennis players can be the worst prima donnas; worse than injury faking futballers, worse than trash talking hoopsters, worse than mcenroe style tennis players. Takes the fun and status out of the sport, and even begs the question of whether a sport w/o rule enforcement is even a true sport.
@sachinuchil88909 ай бұрын
I doubt that he spoke intentionally, but if the opponent felt disturbed, the point should have been replayed.
@philippcausd8 ай бұрын
I thought Lind is a much more relaxed boy
@Miguel53de10 ай бұрын
A fair sportsman would have given the next point volontary to his opponent. Alamiyan did not show fairness here. His reaction at the end shows it again. A pity.
@Enritsche10 ай бұрын
absolutely correct. even if anders did NOT raise his hand, as he had suggested. the supervisor is a moron, as always they support their umpires, a pity. and a reasonably fair player, which Noshad apparently isn't, would have given the point back. Anders could have played the "roller" (it was not nearly a roller) way better, if it had been in a normal rally. any comment here suggesting otherwise has no clue about how good these players are!
@Miguel53de10 ай бұрын
@@Enritsche Thank you. Absolut correct! Other players would have react differently.
@muhamadazian375810 ай бұрын
Alamiyan was making a sound when he hit the ball, is that the problem?
@josephgospa40319 ай бұрын
I've done it many times when it was my time as TT player.
@daverbook3 ай бұрын
Best comment of the day!
@josephrobinson88948 ай бұрын
NICE GAME ANDERS. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@zerobach9 ай бұрын
8:51 not even a sorry??
@DenisPinheir0Ай бұрын
😂🔥
@palmcantur3 ай бұрын
Congratulations!
@illustrayed9 ай бұрын
Noshad expected the ball to go long out of bounce thats why he wanted to scream Cho-le, instead hit the netroller and he realized at "CHO!"...in my opinion it is clear foul since cheering while the ball is still in game. unlucky situation but still clear i guess
@benchawes96510 ай бұрын
It's true, you can not talk during a point then the point belongs to the other player. However it doesn't sound like Noshad Alamiyan is talking but merely some sounds to himself. Or what do you think? 1:10
@ublokr10 ай бұрын
It was a sound to himself as he made a huge effort. The ball was on his side and there was plenty of time between when he made the sound and he managed to scoop the ball up off the floor. Think of all the grunts people make when hitting hard.
@30tabletteralvedon34Ай бұрын
yeah well its stil disturbed the point
@SteveSoper197910 ай бұрын
Anders is right but it's not his job or authority to call it during the point. How he handled it ultimately cost him the point even though he was right. Afterwards say something to the official. Really it's just bad officiating. The Lebrun brothers also had this happen to them against FZD in a doubles match. The officials need to call chos that get returned. Players will learn to either not do it or be sure to wait until the point is actually over.
@christopherojimaduonwuka586410 ай бұрын
Most of thé empires are 'ot perfect. Some of them are juste empire for that particular compétition juste because they are Host of thé compétition. Am an empire since 2005. Presently am still a compititon player
@h.p.7344 ай бұрын
Anders was totally in the right here. Rules are rules, accident or not.
@guerrerorojas534810 ай бұрын
The ball were already in the Alamiyan’s side when hi shouted.
@orlandojam810 ай бұрын
8:50 head shot 🎉
@paulispaul197410 ай бұрын
There are no thoughts about it here. The player who stopped the point after his opponent yelled cho-le is right. Anything that a player does that annoys or bothers his rival, by modifying the normal development of the match, is a point for the latter.
@DenisPinheir08 ай бұрын
1:06 the point!
@ProxyFinal8 ай бұрын
You know, I just focused on their game afterwards and to be honest, I am starting to feel a little concerned about Noshad’s game. I see him grab his shoulder blades and i wonder if it has anything to do with his backhand dominant style. Don’t get me wrong, he is an elite player, but I don’t know if this style is good for him as far as longevity goes.
@vivekpadmanabhan959910 ай бұрын
I learned the rules of table tennis. I tossed the ball as vertical as possible. Never hid the ball after the toss was completed. Never disturbed the opponent during the match. Played as fair as possible. Lost many times to persons who played to win and followed no rules.
@squiggletop10 ай бұрын
but you can sleep at night!
@vivekpadmanabhan959910 ай бұрын
Right man, Tks
@plusmanikantanr10 ай бұрын
The balance is to find ways to make your game impossible to deny. Every winning point you score matters more than the person "cheating". At some point, the "cheater" will be outed, then their career is over ... while yours will KEEP IMPROVING! Skills do not have an upper limit until you hit the limits of the human body. So keep training! And WIN with SKILL!
@pixelmite8 ай бұрын
I gotta agree with Noshad here. It did look out and it was not intentional. Most players would not call it out anyway so a replay was fair.
@user-wo6nn2lt9z21 күн бұрын
Lind is big kid 👦he needs to grow up , the rule says players can not stop the game, they must continue until the end of the point then they can protest if they disagree 😮
@oafrette8 ай бұрын
Lebrun brothers have gotten points because of the opponents shouting before the point was over, it is a rule
@FED0RA3 ай бұрын
honestly, just play until the umpire calls for a stop, or the ball is out of play complain AFTER the point, if the umpire doesn't give the right call
@rockys772610 ай бұрын
Firstly I'm surprised the umpire didn't know the rules clearly. Second when they called over the ref why didn't HE know the rules either???
@josephrobinson88948 ай бұрын
Noshad should have given the point to Anders
@SCWhiteJazz10 ай бұрын
devastating decision, poor Anders, a shame for the umpire and his supervisor, I can't stand it!
@shogrran9 ай бұрын
he didn't intentionally did it. no offense but when you reach this level of competition, there should be one first rule on your mind - and this is for every sport not even table tennis - never take the job of the umpire/referee.
@mmpokemon553010 ай бұрын
like fan zedong vs lebrun brother! the point go to lebrun!!
@aerotus8889 ай бұрын
It's written he can't use his fh due to a disorder but he made plenty of fh shots. So hmmm...
@josephrobinson88948 ай бұрын
Rules are the rules……. Anders point 👍🏻
@sebastianhocht62868 ай бұрын
Can someone please cite the exact rule everyone is referring to? There is no "no speak" rule, but feel free to prove me wrong. And neither is screaming considered "speaking". Otherwise Apes could speak, which is obviously wrong.
@JustCrazy.0_o8 ай бұрын
8:51 why is nobody talking about this? That was disrespective!
@daverbook3 ай бұрын
Noshad was weak by saying he did not know the rule. How could he not know after playing for 30 years!? TT has, like, 3 rules to know! A respectful player would have known the rule, admitted he broke it, and grant the point to the opponent.
@wonghow9 ай бұрын
ITTF rules are not all specific. Noise disturbance is too broad, what about exhausted and grunt or Ovtcharov on every ball return, that is more disturbing than one sound at one time by Noshad. Anyway, it is the Umpire decides whether the rule applies to the situation, not the player. Player is a player not Umpire. Rule is a guide, not rule. Who throw the ball vertical in serving, almost nobody. "vertical" in the rule just means not too much deviation from vertical, when excessive the rule will apply.
@swissmatteo10 ай бұрын
Is there not an argument for the fact that he made a sound during his point? As he thought the point was over but it indeed wasn’t.
@daverbook3 ай бұрын
Lind was wrong to stop play, but the shout apparently broke his concentration. So he stopped the point. He was right, and he was wrong. Having said that, the official missed the call. And it was pretty hard to miss. Table tennis has a worldwide problem with the few rules it has. They are easy to follow, but players abuse the lack of enforcement. Illegal serves, white clothing, intentionally distracting the opponent. Until the USATT, ITTF, WTTC, etc can learn that following rules means respecting the opponent, the problems will continue. Their passive attitude trickles down to club play worldwide. And those that respect end up on the losing end.
@sukrusnc129110 ай бұрын
İ think that was a reflex scream
@cegthgtlhj8 ай бұрын
what kind of problem hat Noshad with his forehand?
@cegthgtlhj8 ай бұрын
Sorry. I have found out later in the video: shoulder injury.
@amirhosein36388 ай бұрын
ma man noshad doesnt have a forhand iguess
@christopherojimaduonwuka586410 ай бұрын
I am an empire (refferi) thé players was really right. You cannot talk when the ball is still on
@1xXNimrodXx110 ай бұрын
Wrong, the game continues, and only when the umpire detects evil intention the match is stopped - important: its stopped by the umpire and not by the payer ! - and a yellow card is given
@peterkajan664510 ай бұрын
@@1xXNimrodXx1the sounds disturb the player, not the umpire. Those umpires don't give two shits about disturbing noises
@senzhan22110 ай бұрын
Noshad has some medical issues. A really fighter. Anders made good use of it by receiving his serves in a way that is very difficult for Noshad to attack with backhand
@sebribo187310 ай бұрын
Medical issues is no reason to refuse fair play. But really weird that the iranian changes hand to play forehand killer😅
@gab501210 ай бұрын
@@sebribo1873 he can't forehand well with his dominant hand so he changes hands to smash
@olissime019 ай бұрын
😅it was just the scream of a .an doing an extra effort, no big deal at all. This incident simply shows that Anders Lind is emotionally fragile.
@nimakh517610 ай бұрын
As far as I know, the rule is not that if you speak or make a noise during the point then you lose the point right away. You have to cause disturbance and the umpire has to call it. That's their job, if each player stopped the game based on how she or he sees fit then the whole sports games are in big trouble. You play till told otherwise and that's the rule. In here, Lind casually continued the play but also decided to make the call himself. I think if he had stopped playing altogether to show that he was actually disturbed would have worked but since the noise was minimal and seemed unintentional, it leaves it to the umpire to decide and not the player. Moreover, the fact that he casually continued the play, played a part in showing that he wasn't really disturbed.
@kazandan10 ай бұрын
Two freaky guys
@semmyd2710 ай бұрын
I mean it's right, but let the judge/umpire make the call...
@knotwilg35969 ай бұрын
According to this rule Ovtcharov should lose every point because his incessant grunting is a hindrance.
@iversonbahiwag12958 ай бұрын
It's amazing how Anders Lind recover the point and reach round 8 despite his opponent going against the rules
@fraezma2 ай бұрын
What world are these umpires living in?
@vfxforge8 ай бұрын
this kind of match give TT a bad name, bad attitude and BOTH players throwing their racquet at the end.
@mankenybom93443 ай бұрын
All that fuss about a rule every player should know since age 10 (the umpire decides, NOT the players... ever...!!), made Lind lose his fokus and his game... and the points are just running away from him. Fortunately he catches up againg.
@PhiBrian10 ай бұрын
Both were bad, first Lind for taking too much time complaining and Alamiyan in the end for making a Filus.
@maxlondon764410 ай бұрын
this is so shocking that the umpires and supervisors are not up-to-date with the rules!!! Feel sorry for Anders and also as an international player Noshad should have been aware of this rule too.
@4irmann10 ай бұрын
So is it about rules, now ? I think focus should be sports. And Anders should be pro enough to get over this not very loud noise made by Noshad.
@maxlondon764410 ай бұрын
@@4irmann name one sport that doesn’t have rules !! Bottom line is rules have to be respected and followed.
@4irmann10 ай бұрын
@@maxlondon7644 Yes, but shouldn't the focus be on the sport instead on the rules ? Rules are usually far from perfect. It's often not just black and white, but somewhere in between. Therefore, umpires / refererees have to decide. In this case they made a good decision regarding the sport -- just my opinion.
@maxlondon764410 ай бұрын
@@4irmann ignorance cannot be an excuse to hide behind. Sport rules are there to be followed whether one like it or not. Focus is irrelevant if you don’t follow the rules one can also say that’s the definition of cheating.
@4irmann10 ай бұрын
@@maxlondon7644 IMO no excuses or ignorance by the umpires, just evaluation of the situation and final decision. isn't it the same in all sports ? Basketball, soccer - you name it. Rules are always applied to different situations/circumstances. The sports channels are full of controversies regarding referee decisions. As I mentioned, it's not black and white. In this case the umpires decided not to give the point. And I like it.
@sorryjohn649410 ай бұрын
It is interesting that Anders said he was put off "by talking" during the point, when at match point he follows the trend to groan like a person in a poor 1970's porn movie (and at other times) when playing a shot. If this is not a distraction nothing is. Strangely when players are getting beaten easily they no longer need to make the noise 🤔
@Filoda10 күн бұрын
Lind had true
@whatup20038 ай бұрын
1:11 Noshad made the pre-mature cheering right after the ball hit the net, then he had to dive and save the ball. Anders had plenty of time to react to that and didn't seem to be disturbed by the cheering at all, but he chose to not return the ball and wanted to claim the point by the rule for an easy win. This is the REAL lack of sportsmanship IMO.
@alvarobenitezdelafuente65698 ай бұрын
Doesn’t matter the tule states that if you scream you lose the point
@whatup20038 ай бұрын
@@alvarobenitezdelafuente6569 Rule 2.09 states - The rally shall be a let if the conditions of play are disturbed in a way which could affect the outcome of the rally. So no. You definitely not lose a point when you accidentally shout. It's a let at most. In this case the play wasn't even disturbed because Anders was clearly not startled by that half a "cho" and had PLENTY of time to react to Noshad's return. He just chose not to, thinking Noshad already lost the point when he shouted.
@alvarobenitezdelafuente65698 ай бұрын
I was playing an international match doubles and in the middle of the point my partner shouted chole but the point didn’t finish, so the umpire stopped the point and give it to the rival , if you shout you lose and it’s not about concerning the rival or not , in a game of pure concentration shouting will always bother the player
@whatup20038 ай бұрын
@@alvarobenitezdelafuente6569 Again the rule clearly states that it shall be a let and replay the point at most. Giving the point straight to the other side is not written in the rules.
@alvarobenitezdelafuente65698 ай бұрын
What do you don’t understand I lost the point for shouting and your rules didn’t do nothing Also in my country the rules says if you shout you lose the point
@esmolol40919 ай бұрын
He was right. Talking during the point because it was an unfortunate net ball is really disturbing. It would be different if he moans due to the stress to reach it though.
@plusmanikantanr10 ай бұрын
ITTF are beholden to their paymasters in the CCP and MidEast. They couldnt care less if "this is the rule" or "not the rule" or "the rule isnt very clear" or "rule is too biased" or "rule is ambiguous" or " rule cant be enforced" or "rule is unequally applied". Players MUST agree with each other BEFORE starting their match. "Follow ITTF rules strictly" ... or "Behave gentlemanly unless either of the break the rules first" ... or "No Rules Only Win" .... etc etc .... Decide how you want to play between yourselves else you will be at the mercy of the ITTF and the umpires and tournament directors.
@dmitrikonnov9228 ай бұрын
Honestly, in the court Anders wouldn‘t have any chances. Saying, that speaking during the point is disturbing holds no water, because Anders couldn’t have evidence, that his opponent was “speaking”. Was he cheering? Or was it just a noise? Is any noise that you produce prohibited? I truly doubt it, otherwise neither D. Ovcharov nor almost any female athlete must play. Saying that anything disturbing is prohibited is pure BS, because disturbing is a subjective. Moreover, only am umpire is allowed to stop the game. Hence, Anders’ behaviour is one of the bad looser.
@CTFlink10 ай бұрын
Saying a sound like that should IMO not be interpreted as "speaking". It could as well just have been the usual grunt or sound they make when they hit the ball
@isaachernandez804310 ай бұрын
Yes but saying chole or Cho is considered speaking because it is marking the point is over when clearly the ball has not finished bouncing however I also see how it was a mistake seeing as it was a net ball with trajectory showing it was going to fall off the table so in my honest opinion he did speak but Lind shouldn’t have argued
@rodrigoangelo48810 ай бұрын
Yeah, there's a rule about it. But honestly, that's a stupid rule. It was clearly an accident, he didn't do it on purpose to disturb the opponent. That rule needs to be regulated. Cause the players are thinking that any sound is disturbing nowadays. And for me that's a stupid rule cause in all the sports there are provocations an it's ok. But in table tennis u can't even scream for a point accidentally that you are considered a cheater 😂😂 lol
@sebastianhocht62868 ай бұрын
Can you please cite the official rule you are referring to?
@bengtbengt385010 ай бұрын
The RULE is that the opponent may not disturb INTENTIONALLY. Noshad didn't disturb intentionally as he thought the point was over. Therefore, it was indeed Noshad's point.
@ensontaylor48369 ай бұрын
How can you tell if something is intentional or not? Humans can be very deceptive
@B08AH9 ай бұрын
You break the rules - you receive penalty. Your intentions do not matter.
@daverbook3 ай бұрын
Wrong. It does not have to be intentional. If you bump the table or hit the playing surface with your off hand unintentionally, same thing. You lose the point.
@jonl.b71682 ай бұрын
It's not the same thing. Making an unintentional sound will likely never cost you the point.@@daverbook
@swissmatteo10 ай бұрын
„Nein nein nein, there is no way we don’t replay it.“ sounds arrogant and smells of a personality trait of someone with entitlement issues.
@leiwang196510 ай бұрын
What about the moaning sounds players make in rallies?
@dariogutierrez671610 ай бұрын
unintentional, rule doesnt apply
@kenji278710 ай бұрын
Technically, it was unintentional here too. Ander was being a bitch imo. The return was very slow, so even of there was really a disturbance, there is more than enough time to recover and continue the play.
@Blake-pz7jj10 ай бұрын
Ball bounced twice on Anders table. Umpire should've noticed the double bounce and know this rule or at least agreed with player.
@_.Madness._8 ай бұрын
1. It bounced once. 2. Anders stopped the point after Noshad shouted during the rally, so it doesn't matter how many times it bounced anyway. 3. If the ball bounces twice (or multiple times) on your side, you normally lose the point. But did you know that there is actually no official rule that says this should be the case?
@sebastianhocht62868 ай бұрын
When the ball bounces twice, the player A was unable to return the ball properly and B gets the point.
@_.Madness._8 ай бұрын
@@sebastianhocht6286 Captain Obvious.
@sebastianhocht62868 ай бұрын
@@_.Madness._ Captain Obvious is disguised for most.
@picandvideo10 ай бұрын
Not easy to win by backhand only.
@ericlelann108310 ай бұрын
🤣
@thethreeduelists846310 ай бұрын
Noshad has medical issues, Lind argued about 1 Point really long, choled every second point , hit Noshad at 8:54 with the ball in the face and didn’t apologized… regardless of whose point it was, there was no good sportsmanship by Anders Lind in this game
@dylantg151310 ай бұрын
At least Anders didn’t throw his racket after he lost and Noshad choed equally as much as Lind. And I don’t think it is bad sportsmanship to clarify his statement about why that point (that he won by the rules) is his. And maybe he didn’t notice that the ball hit Noshad because the score were so tight and you can see he turned around quickly and got upset.
@Fluyts10 ай бұрын
Anders was 100% right. Very strange that the umpires don’t know the rule. However, always be smart and play the point. Discussion is for after.
@1xXNimrodXx110 ай бұрын
Do not spread bullshit. The umpire decides weather someone speaks during the point to distract the opponent and therefore interrupts the match, the player does not have the authority to do so. Imagine I stop the game because I play against Dima and his moaning distracts me so I stop the game and declare its my point. Anders with small D energy in this match, pretty sad.
@Fluyts10 ай бұрын
@@1xXNimrodXx1 what you say is just not true. Shouting ‘cho’ is very different than moaning. The player does have the right to stop the point when it is such a clear case as this, just like when the ball touches the t-shirt
@1xXNimrodXx110 ай бұрын
@@Fluyts the only thing you can do to signal it, is raise your hand and wait for the umpire to call for "let" , trust me, if the umpire detects an evil intention when someone wants to distract a player he will act, this was not the case here, so you have no right to claim the point - let me know the rule if you want to prove me wrong
@Fluyts10 ай бұрын
@@1xXNimrodXx1 yes that’s true. Not take the ball, but raise the hand and continue to play like Anders did. Noshad quickly made the point, although he knew he was wrong. A bit sad.
@anderslind857210 ай бұрын
@@1xXNimrodXx1 it was cold in the hall. Thats why small d energy ahaha
@easytriops59519 ай бұрын
Alamiyan has a forehand? 😂
@MauricioY_10 ай бұрын
I´m glad Lind won the match, his opponent clearly not only "spoke", but shout during the rally. Besides that he displayed tons of unsportsmanlike conduct throughout the match. Umpire and supervisor looked like a joke in this decision.
@arianrezaei29932 ай бұрын
Clearly it was not intentional he just celebrated too early it happens dont be an ass
@OX3YMORON8 ай бұрын
Pretty bad ruling
@epic10538 ай бұрын
To everyone saying "the rule says if one player makes any disturbing noises while playing, that player looses the point. " Yes that's the rule however there is a big discrepancy on what is considered disturbing - During dima's matches he is known to grunt several times during a rally and this is never called up. - During this match both players several times stomped their feet to cover up the sound of the ball on the contact - you could argue this is distrubing but it's never pulled up and a common occurrence. The fact is someone grunting has not been considered to be disturbing going by the president that has been set.
@Philoreason9 ай бұрын
It was not intentional so the rule does not apply clearly. Anders know it. He messed up in this point. Hate these kind of dishonest player when they knowingly lose a point and trying to argue out... He completely lost my respect.
@Magienionar9 ай бұрын
NEIN NEIN NEIN
@l.franfort634010 ай бұрын
Noshad is a cheater, not fair play at all. Right after the point you can try to get it but once you recover your mind just play fair play and leave your point to your opponent
@tomt420310 ай бұрын
Noshad showed he lacked sportmanship and brings shame to TT
@tolulopeaderibigbe22099 ай бұрын
Alamiyan has idiocy should be penalised alongside ruwen filus.
@trinityz55408 ай бұрын
Cry baby
@21centdregs10 ай бұрын
imagine being entitled enough to stop a great rally midway because you think you can sneak a point on a technicality. that shit is ridiculous, imagine basketball with no speaking allowed during gameplay
@michaeldete905810 ай бұрын
Schade. Anders Lind hätte den ersten Satz verlieren sollen als Strafe dafür, bei diesem Satzstand zu Beginn eines Matches ein solches Spektakel zu veranstalten!
@javiergalindo693110 ай бұрын
De que hablas, si anders lind estaba en todo el derecho de haber reclamado ese punto. Ahora el problema no fue de el sino que de los propios árbitros que no sabían las reglas. Deberías informarte un poco más y no decir cosas por decir...
@Enritsche10 ай бұрын
genau! strafsatz für unsympathisch! schöne neue regel!
@quantumeyes854610 ай бұрын
these umpires are politicians ?
@johansjostrand209610 ай бұрын
It should be Anders point, if you dont go with the rules why have them?
@tt_highlights10 ай бұрын
This happened several times this wttc. The rule is not clear in thus case. the referee decides if the sound of the player is intended to disturb the opponent. Idk why anders discusses instead of continuing the point. He deserves a yellow card here nothing else.
@brianfong839410 ай бұрын
Normally in the case, it’s not Anders’ point. It’s the other guys point
@keithmiller377010 ай бұрын
Wrong - you can't talk during the rally.
@bengtbengt385010 ай бұрын
@@keithmiller3770 Noshad didn't talk.
@Haiman910 ай бұрын
Noshad should quit and go sell Shawerma!
@dovydasnonamer909110 ай бұрын
Women
@peterfriedl620610 ай бұрын
Unbelievable that Lind as well as all the others here do not not the rules: around the net from under the table is absolutely correct !
@TTDefender10 ай бұрын
It wasn’t about the roller. His opponent prematurely shouted during the point and Lind lost focus due to that according to himself. You cannot make a cheering sound or talk during a point as it will end it immediately. The point should have gone to Lind, if the officials would have been strict with the interpretation of the rules. But the referee went with the fact, that the cheer was unintentional and gave the point to Alamiyan. The roller was never the point of the conversation
@peterfriedl620610 ай бұрын
@@TTDefender No Lind's claiming is ridiculous. The shout was way before the roller and Lind performed thereafter a good smash which however was answered by the roller. Furthermore his opponent gave these relatively decent shouts after every point. There is just someone who couldn't stand to be faced with this shot.
@Enritsche10 ай бұрын
@@peterfriedl6206 you may be blind or deaf or both. please check up which! noshad thought the ball would not come over the net, so he immediately cheered. he then noticed he misjudged it and played a good return.
@peterfriedl620610 ай бұрын
@@Enritsche Certainly it is not me lacking intelligence and politeness so I stay with my opinion
@Enritsche10 ай бұрын
@@peterfriedl6206 I may have offended you. apologies for that. being polite however doesn't make your statement valid nor in any way sensible, you are just showing stubbornness. replay, look and listen: the shout was AFTER the "smash" you called it (we actually call this a press or push block, but anyway).
@user-xx7pc9vg1l10 ай бұрын
Линд молодец, не дал себя сломать Ношад всегда ведет себя не спортивно и Линд вернул ему сполна за такое поведение В глаз попал и соплю повесил😂 В любом случае Линд прав - нельзя смущать соперника. Армяну жёлтую карточку.