Best Metal Guitar Rig Under £1000 Challenge!

[@Dasspapirfly]

Just a thought. but I enjoyed the old videos where they got a budget and we followed them around as they picked up their gear and the thoughts behind it more.

[@I.M.Guitar-Nerd]

Agreed!

[@FromTheMosh]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@ryanijyu533]

I prefer that

[@james-pw1tn]

we had to suffer chappers though

[@I.M.Guitar-Nerd]

@@james-pw1tn Nobody forced you to watch.

[@mattw.6726]

I love how you could see Ben die a little inside when John said "this has a gate". 🤣

[@fundude365]

The rest of his soul left with that string 😂

[@TheSuperspyk]

I love the captain and Pete but dear lord this is brilliant, love the banter!

[@Fukyourfeelingslol]

Care to share your narcotics, mate? must be strong, if you enjoyed Ben's droning

[@TheSuperspyk]

@@Fukyourfeelingslol who hurt you? 😂 But nah, to each their own man, that’s the great thing about opinions - everyone’s got em For instance, it’s of my opinion that I’m not a fan of Flying V guitars, but I don’t find videos with one in the thumbnail and then comment about how I dislike them If I had narcotics, I’d share with you, seem like you could use a little, friend

[@ParsoJr]

It’s funny, I went through this recently. I tried the pedals thing but couldn’t make the sound I wanted. So I scrapped the pedals, got a mkii 2x12 100w katana and presets have got every sound I could ever need, and gave me what I wanted

[@robertsay4374]

Perfect choice of jam riff - gotta love when Diamond Head gets used, real metalheads right there and great rigs for the price!

[@stoneysdead689]

I don't think they listen to Diamond Head- I think they heard this on Garage Days when Metallica covered it.

[@Fukyourfeelingslol]

Too bad the ginger disaster couldn't play it to save his freckly flesh

[@andrewpappas9311]

Absolute classic regardless

[@johnconnearnmusic]

Heard it on a compilation CD when I was about 8, solid riff

[@lanceybaby]

We all won with that contest, as an Anderton's metal vid is always a winner. Tbh there were bits from both rigs i loved... I use a micro dark myself so amp-wise I'm team Ben, loved his delay as well, but John's dinky and phaser were great. We want more of this stuff please Lee, and get some doom content too!

[@badm0t0rf1nger]

That string snap (& reaction) was perfect! :)

[@peterlowes1721]

I don't normally like John and Ben's content but together they are brilliant. More of these two please.

[@robyates136]

seconded

[@pinkyellowblue007]

I like the 1x12 and mini head setup, there's lots of great mini heads these days you could use and have a range of tones and lot of gear in a small space.

[@StormdriverOne]

To my ears, the Orange wins this one but it had a lot of help from the delay. I thought the EQ actually made it sound worse but overall, I liked it more. I might have gone with something a bit cheaper than the 5150 and added a few more effects. Also, this was good.

[@emartinezr]

Yeah the delay did it. Guess John could have scrapped the Phaser and got a delay instead.

[@zedski]

Good to see some actual metal content. More plz :)

[@eduardovillegas5498]

These guys killed it!! Awesome video!! Hope to see this duo again!

[@FromTheMosh]

Ben was very ready for this haha. Great value in his rig.

[@huskylove-666]

So thought Jon would stomp this and really thought I wanted that 5150 amp myself. Surprised how bens rig cut through. Ben for me🎉

[@antoniocoluccia6330]

I've had the Orange Micro Dark myself for years. He sounds incredible for his size, and it's really loud! But now it has become my live backup for the VX Kraken for half a year.😝

[@Professional.Bro.777]

The EQ pedal and noise gate are a must in any budget metal rig. They literally mask almost any downside

[@PJBonoVox]

LITERALLY

[@graemenewman7311]

Thr listener won this contest! Great content guys and as mentioned, amazing banter.

[@frankswildyears2217]

Love It! The Metal the Battle the Rattle! Soundwise both are fine.I think rhythm wins over lead both times. Also Love the 4 Guys 1 Riff Thing. Bang on

[@demiran6279]

bring back the part which they choose the gear pleaseee. that was the most fun part!!

[@ereimul1444]

lets talk about the chemistry and their banter. made my day.

[@ilikeheadcrabs]

John with a Tiffany Rolex OP in a metal budget rig video is a vibe

[@BadCat1990]

I enjoyed the sound of the Orange rig a little more. Probably due to the V30 loaded birch ply cab. My ears are so used and that sound and it just works.

[@marcostassi4141]

Ben's 100%, maybe it's just how it was recorded but his sound has so much more body to it

[@Fukyourfeelingslol]

It's a distortion pedal going through a solid state amp. it has the tonal characteristics of a wet fart

[@collinadams8165]

Neither rig used a solid state amp nor a distortion pedal...

[@void_snw]

​@@Fukyourfeelingslolsnob detected, opinion rejected

[@joshchristieson339]

@@FukyourfeelingslolI’m not seeing a solid state amp or a distortion pedal anywhere bud….

[@Fukyourfeelingslol]

@@collinadams8165 Whooooahhh!!! all that gain must be coming from like... 1,000 valves!! OR IT'S A DISTORTION PEDAL, RUNNING THROUGH SOLID STATE TRANSFORMERS. you must be new to guitar, or amplification technology. go read up, and get back to me, dunce.

[@jonbourn473]

Great video...need more of these. I prefer Ben's rig but love DJ's playing. BTW, I need more SOUNDS LIKE

[@jeffgualandijr9420]

more of this please, don't get to hear a good ole Jackson wide freakin open every day.

[@MarkK-l6x]

Ben I think sounded a bit rounder and the delay just did it for me. Brilliant video.

[@neilweir-smith8228]

I reckon we win for getting to listen to that. The rigs complement each other really well to me. I don't prefer one over the other, they do slightly different things and work well together.

[@bjorndirckx9172]

Well they sound best together to be fair , that orange rig is perfect for rhythm and the Evh was perfect for lead , Ben’s rig sounded thick and juicy in the mids what carry’s the heft of the sound and John’s is spikey and sort of thin sounding with a very high register fizzyness that cuts trough the mix like a battle axe .

[@BackWoodsBillyCraftBeerReviews]

Nice video 💯.... However I would personally like to see a video where we take the amp out of it... & Use a Multi Effects Pedal with Pedal Sims 🎤 mic Sims Amp cab Sim's And Speaker Sims Although I believe adding a pedal is good... Than the Guitar 🎸. IMO SPEAKERS are More important than the guitar. However The most important thing is the PLAYER... Cheers 🍻🥃🥃🎸🎵🎶🎶🎶

[@caileanhunt8679]

Great challenge, both good choices of gear. Ben wins for me, that dark terror is so good.

[@IgorMuller]

Looking for a begginers rig i would probably go Hotone Ampero II, its decent enough to keep you entertained and its conveniet. Everything else is going straight into guitar. I fould either get an FRFR monitor later or experiment with real amps, but if i am on a budget and i am fresh to guitar world (basically these two together are almost always the case) a reasonably priced modeller plus a decent guitar is the go for me.

[@dominicrobed]

Ben’s rig rocked 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@joshmore7175]

The orange sounds so much better honestly. It's not even close

[@ayeapprove]

My cheapest metal rig for 1000 (insert your currency here) would be this: Guitar: Ibanez RGA42FM or Ibanez RG421PB (both around 400 EUR) or if you don't need tuner pedal: FGN Boundary Odyssey (549 EUR which is a steal for a japanese guitar!) Pedals and Amp (=493 EUR): TC Electronic PolyTune 3 (good buffer and tuner) Tone City Kaffir Lime (great to control bass/treble) Mooer Micro PreAMP 005 (for really heavy stuff) or Mooer Micro PreAMP 012 (if you like boosted brown sounds) Mooer Baby Bomb 30 W (plenty loud to play with a drummer) Harley Benton G112 Celestion V30 (sorry but this is the cheapest way to get a decent V30 cab) This goes on a really small pedalboard and is the ultimate lightweight rig.

[@TheBlackham]

Great vid….I’m totally not a metal guy but Ben and John are very watchable

[@stanislavmigra]

I was expecting this to be close, but John totaly owns this for me. That raspy agressive in your face sound but with great string separation, just wins.Bens sounds too squished to my ears.

[@Simto]

Ben = Better lead tone John = Better rhythm tone

[@justinvzu01]

I think John sounded better all around, but that's 100% because the 5150 isn't EQ'd correctly.

[@TheAndostro]

yeah they can go with this rigs as rhythm and lead in band for sure

[@ethanwittneben2584]

Ben because I have a micro dark and I'm biased

[@MrUmandMrEr]

Entertaining video. Both sound like death. Mission accomplished.

[@bwgti]

For the purposes of the video. The guy on the right's rig sounded better. But I have owned that Orange setup before - without the EQ pedal - and I was not happy with it. I question wether there is any chance you could hear it over a drum kit either. And the 5150 sounds way better in person. But whatever. I havn't watched one of these in years, back when Rabea was doing them. This was entertaining and fun

[@compucorder64]

I'm more into Doom / Stoner metal. So I'd get an Epiphone SG Standard. In Alpine White. And a Marshall DSL20 combo amp. For pedals, a Electro-Harmonix Nano Metal Muff, because it has EQ and a gate too. And a TC Magus Pro, because it does the heavy Fat Rat sound, and the gnarly Turbo Rat sound. Fuzz & Rat together would get me toward that Sunn O))) Life Pedal sound. Can play the octaves by hand :)

[@pCeLobster]

That Orange rig utterly dominated.

[@lancehall3897]

I prefer John’s guitar and amp; its a great start but delay, plate reverb would widen the gap over Ben’s rig for my metal rig preference.

[@lycancatt4248]

found it interesting that without the eq on the orange amp it really sounded better, but with the lead tone the eq was really necessary

[@andrewpappas9311]

Both rigs sounded awesome so it's really hard to choose, but if I did had to pick then I would probably say John's tone with that phaser just bumped it over the top for me. Absolutely brilliant

[@staceysmith967]

Would be happy with either of these rigs tbh but maybe Ben’s cuts through just a teensy bit more?

[@JamieSlays]

looks like me and the captain started a cool trend of playing am i evil haha :D

[@iisan1]

The “DIGITAL JOHN” introduction gets me every time hahahahaha

[@guntherabrahamowicz4659]

Ben, and the V, for the win! Plus, it's the only way John still gets a decent pint.

[@abeal5188]

L’Orange. God Orange is so damn good.

[@wspeed657]

I bought a Js-227 and the quality blew me away. Maybe I got lucky but when I tested out LTD schecter etc. nothing was close. It's better than most of my other guitars that cost 4x.

[@setra23]

Same, I bought a "low end" Jackson 7 string and it was really well made.

[@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy]

I have a Micro Dark and a Dark Terror. I don't find they NEED an EQ pedal if you know how to use the tone knob. You can easily get a balanced but mid-heavy tone.

[@Manley156]

I love both amps, but they need a boost up front which certainly effects the Tone knob

[@metalmichew2]

Yeah anything with orange instantly wins for me, i think an old Marshall JMP might overtake orange but in this case orange wins hard. I think its that raw organic sound orange has, its exactly like those old Marshalls cranked hard

[@mudwiser1391]

Wild Stallions!

[@robyates136]

Funny - I can almost replicate Ben's winning rig with things lying on my "spares shelf" including a King V JS32 (EMG upgraded) and a criminally under-used Micro Dark. I foresee a mini rig-build coming up ....

[@I.M.Guitar-Nerd]

First off, you two need to make more videos together; as for the rigs, they both sound great but I've gotta go with the Dinky and the 5150.

[@ArthurDent33]

More from these lads!!

[@JohnShalamskas]

I was expecting John to use a Valeton multi effects pedal and a clean amp/cab.

[@glenproctor1999]

Great video! Played totally in the spirit of gearheads everywhere ("mine's bigger than yours"). 🤣

[@adamstein9333]

Under a thousand? You can do this under 500$ and sound spectacular! Will it have tubes? If You look used and very hard. The sound of Chinese manufactured pedals, preamps,speakers, power amps and guitars is absolutely stellar these days. For under a hundred You could have a set up floor and tour rig. If You can watch a video about intonation (really easy) You can have an Amazing Metal Guitar that no one would know how cheap You were cause You sound so awesome! Don’t get Me wrong I used to have to Have a Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier, matching Oversized 4/12,Boutique tube screamers and the like, a Gibson Sg Standard and PRS S2 standard 24 satin for back up and I understand marketing and the consumer base, and the need to feel “professional”, it just isn’t worth it to Me these days because I can emulate it to a blindfolded challenge debate and debacle. Been doing this along time and In this case I would mix match these two rigs and have 600 ish left to spend! Well 400 with cab. Awesome even though I would totally not pick any of these choices. (Maybe the Jackson but different color) yep I’m bored but 100 percent being factual!

[@richgrothaus5971]

Digital John, both players were great.

[@zzombeyfanboy6223]

Oz should have been part of this

[@Fukyourfeelingslol]

Yeah, swap Ben out of there

[@atanastsvetkov1530]

John's sounds better on its own but can't be heard when played with Ben due to his pronounced mid range. It could be an issue with the EVH in the mix but maybe through a tube screamer in and that might fix it.

[@TheManToby]

Beardy wins!! Although could of turned off the ts for the rhythm to help John out

[@justinvzu01]

5150 Iconic with a boost is all you need. The built in boost is such an important one too.

[@nihilusdarth3365]

Best Rock Guitar Rig next please

[@Briansgate]

I have an Orange Microdark, and a Jackson guitar. does that mean I win?

[@shawndunlap714]

I prefer the dinky with the Orange 🍊👍

[@stephanfuchs7891]

I'd choose a different guitar for sure.

[@Fukyourfeelingslol]

It's the best choice, when you decide to focus your budget primarily on the amp. at least for what kids today think is "Metal". I'd rather pick a squire classic vibe and a Marshall dual super lead 20

[@jmplautz]

5150 amp with the Flying-V and effects is the direction I would go.

[@kaekayyy2554]

D I G I T A L J O N 🤖

[@DMFChavez]

I don't know why but I have to rewind that clip 10x every time they use it

[@IcyTorment]

The Orange is definitely the better-sounding of the two.

[@frjhracing]

John wins rhythm and riffs, Bens wins lead/ melodic runs. Both will compliment eachother in a mix almost perfectly. Last thing you want is rhythm with a lot of delay or reverb. Bens will not chug nicely, and the lack of delay on Johns is a no go for a lead/solo

[@emartinezr]

That 5150 has a built-in Boost that brings up the tone for leads (adds Gain and Level). I think he should have tried it. It doesn't truly do what Delay does, but it brings up the leads nicely.

[@mccoy4354]

Here would be my picks (Current Prices in USD from Sweetwater): 1. POD GO: $375 + $20 (You can by AMAZING IRs and Presets for like $20 and really transform this), personal fav: Fremen Presets 2. Boss Katana MKII: $229 (Only interested in MKII since they have POWER AMP IN - so directly acts as a CAB for POD GO, can also be used as AMP if needed) Both 1 and 2 total 624 USD 3. Now you have $376 for a guitar, so depending on what you play, you can try couple of these. However, you may need a lil more for a decent guitar 3.a. Jackson Dinky Arch Top JS32 - new one for $399 - Amazing fret work and great pickups for the price. Comes with A Floyd Trem system - not the best but pretty stable. 3.b. If you shell a little more for a Schecter Omen 6 - that would be the best choice but will put you 50-100 USD above the budget.

[@johnwardle9667]

Servitude by Sylosis. I heard you!

[@iliana_b]

With a Blackstar HT model you wouldn’t even need pedals and have a killer metal tone

[@matt6288joyce]

I’m actually really surprised how much £1000 buys for this genre, both rigs were decent!

[@AllanGildea]

Good craic, fellas!

[@markmaagad]

I love these guys🎉🎉🎉

[@doctoribanez]

Out of all the stuff I like the 5150 the most

[@emartinezr]

Ok so just for the metal look of that V... i would pick the 5150, the Jackson V and the mini TS. And call it a day. Bring on the groupies.

[@budgetguitarist]

Good amp choices. Between the two, I prefer the 5150, but I do love that Orange cab - I own one.

[@Mr.5hady]

Orange cut’s through? LoL, he must be mad🤷‍♂️🎸😆

[@juhva]

Steve Hackett has show in Guildford on 12 October 2024. Any chance for interview to your KZbin channel?

[@rrparker12]

Orange rig for the win!

[@freezeframeplease]

wow that micro and the eq really sounded better than a 5150 uh? kinda regretting selling mine

[@xStabizorz]

Joyo Jackman II (Or the Dual Rec clone they do) 112 V30 cab subzero/hardly bentone Tone city TS clone Whatever other tone city pedals you want as well Epiphone Explorer, V, SG or Paul Sinple as

[@CJLB28]

Ben definitely wins this one

[@MrDracolucassos]

Floyd rose special/cheap license floyd- stay in tune, choose one.

[@ericcalica7369]

Team Ben. love the tone.

[@MichaelIrons-d5v]

john wins great vid boys,

[@MichaelIrons-d5v]

thanks!

[@Diactia]

​@@MichaelIrons-d5vDid you just reply to yourself lmao

[@skip7053]

Excellent 👍🏻

[@alienprobe974]

Love how they make fun of eachother! made me laugh

[@ohhhthatsjames]

They could have used a katana 50 mk2 and saved a ton of money for better guitar/pedals. I vaguely remember them having Rebea on and he used it to emulate like Trivium or someone

[@Artec619]

The orange rig sounded way better, 5150 just sounded weird, might be a speaker thing

[@johnconnearnmusic]

Do I get extra points for farting with my hands like that?

[@WoolysWorld]

Class, anyone recommend a good budget amp for metal?

[@Thebaldocelot]

Easily a Boss Katana. Once you connect a computer/phone into it, you'll have access to unholy amounts of distortion and variety of tones/amps/pedals etc. I bought one a few months ago and without doubt its the best budget amp I've ever owned. I got mine for £180 2nd hand

[@WoolysWorld]

@@Thebaldocelot class, thanks so much , ill have a look

[@WoolysWorld]

@@Thebaldocelot which model did you get?

[@raytorvalds3699]

I don't know what price range you call budget. But you can usually find a 2nd hand Peavey 6505+ 112 Combo for under 400. If you decide to go Katana, which is a great choice, do mind that the 50W doesn't have an effects loop. The 100W does (there is 1x12 and 2x12 version of the 100W).

[@Thebaldocelot]

@@WoolysWorld I got the 50w Mk2 but as the other commenter says it dosent have an fx loop. I may sell it and upgrade in the future

[@lnvfx]

Sucker for Orange Amps, but I think John won this one :)

[@troyharkcom6441]

Awesome video 😂😂

[@kenjikodai]

That one guy was right saying John won for Rhythm and Ben won for lead