I heard an old guy say one time, it takes a guitar 20 years to figure out it’s not a tree anymore. Both guitars sound very nice.
@lgtw84385 жыл бұрын
I have a 72 D 35. I played every D 35 in Elpaso Tx and this one was head and shoulders better than all the rest. Martin's vary ALOT! Some of them are special, some are not.
@TheBigGuppy5 жыл бұрын
Yup, That's what all the old Martin guys say.
@oaktree16285 жыл бұрын
LGTW - if that is true, then that reflects poorly on overall quality control at Martin through the years.
@hi99ins5 жыл бұрын
@@oaktree1628 I think its because its the combination of the brace sculpting (and its grain), the body/ neck wood grain and a few other things that makes each one unique. I don;t think there's any reasonable quality control that can detect the difference to be able to implement any quality regime in that respect.
@livingadreamlife14285 жыл бұрын
N M Varies depending on the width of the grain of the wood. Also, the drier the wood, the better the sound.
@39MercFlathead5 жыл бұрын
Back in the 1960s a girlfriend's father gave me a 1910 0-28 with the original coffin case. It had been his wife's guitar. Both case and guitar were in magnificent condition. I played it for a year and after I broke up with the girl, I returned the guitar. Just too much guilt keeping something like that. But I often think of it and hope it is doing well and entertaining people.
@qua7771 Жыл бұрын
It's good to hear form people who can share what life was like in that era of time. I'm not so sure that people have the same ethic today to return a gift that way.
@christopherhawthorne5395 Жыл бұрын
Would be cool to find that guitar again that would be a sweet story. Good thing you gave it back- cause if it made you feel some type of way, then you prolly feel a lot better
@onehundredpicks553111 ай бұрын
@@qua7771gift is a gift man.
@paulshearman1388 ай бұрын
The new Martin has so much life in the sound and will mature even better I would imagine
@70mcnevin4 ай бұрын
Your retirement guitar... dude....
@rmyAddison5 жыл бұрын
Nice playing lads........... My birthyear is 1949, and I've owned 37 Martins over 50 years of playing. Older is better, never owned a Martin that didn't sound better with time, wood changes, finishes gas, age mellows. It's very hard to compare models from different decades, specs change too. FWIW I retired with my personal favorites (CS OM-28 Alpine/Madagscar, OM-18 Authentic '33, OM-45 TB Engelmann/Tasmanian Blackwood, CS 00-42 Adirondack/Madagascar). Age turned the dreads/jumbos into smaller sizes as with many older players, to me Martin OM's are the perfect do anything size. A life full of music is a well lived one....................
@toddbishop83574 жыл бұрын
I will stick with my fg820 😀
@susanroycroft899 ай бұрын
And I picked up an old FG 180, from '74, put a bone nut and saddĺe on and Wow what a remarkable guitar ( 3/ piece back ) though it's a laminate top, it sounds incredible😊😊@@toddbishop8357
@billstralo79077 ай бұрын
I have a 73 d-28, I have played new ones mine sound more full aound and longer sustain. The wood resins hardens over time giving more of a bell tone, also the wood fibers elongate allowing the top more movement. Older is better for sure.
@tonyfdesign5 жыл бұрын
Bottom line: new, or old, Martin makes a beautiful guitar. Bonus points for not banging them together on the 34 passes back and forth!
@joshiuahallenbeck5315 жыл бұрын
Be a little picky about buying newer Martins. Personally if I had the cash I would buy older. Last year I traded away a year old 000-18 due to a bad neck set. I could have just gotten a dud but I asked around and others have had problems as well.
@gurleyz5 жыл бұрын
Age makes a huge difference in both electric and acoustic guitars, but its much more noticeable in acoustics. The woods just blossum with age it seems. Even old laminated Yamahas have an amazing sound which many prefer to all solid wood guitars.
@KozmykJ5 жыл бұрын
For sure. I have an old Eko Ranger VI which has mellowed beautifully. Not just my opinion. Sounds much better than you'd expect from a plywood body and a screw-on neck. Got her s/h in the late 80s. I'd still love to have a nice Martin though. Need a lottery win ...
@notapplicable3282 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a vintage fg-110e. It’s a smaller OOO sized thing but your definitely right. They developed such a full rounded tone it’s impossible not to love playing them!!
@qua7771 Жыл бұрын
I believe this to be true, but like anything, there are going to be common misconceptions. Overly dry guitars sound amazing, but are not structurally sound, and cannot always be easily repaired. Aging may not make a bad sounding guitar sound better. There is a lot more to the aging process than the woods moisture. There is something biological, and physical taking place over time. Flat tops, aren't really flat, and all the parts are under some tension. I got one shipped from the factory that sounded horrible the first day, and didn't project well. It sounded substantially better after a few days. I noticed that the shipping label was damp, so it was safe to assume that the guitar had been exposed to high humidity which would explain things.
@patmillen91625 жыл бұрын
I crave warmth in an acoustic... the vintage one is an easy choice for me.
@rylanfutch88495 жыл бұрын
Yes, I definitely thought it was slightly more mellow than the new one. New one is brighter.
@zacharyohare21185 жыл бұрын
Go play a seagull super warm balanced sounds
@patmillen91625 жыл бұрын
@@zacharyohare2118 I actually just bought a new acoustic last year... Seagulls are nice for sure, but I went with a Larrivee D-03R. It is beyond amazing.
@Jonwsm5 жыл бұрын
Try a cedar or mahogany top.
@Artcore1035 жыл бұрын
It's brighter the opposite of warmer.
@kevinwest54562 жыл бұрын
As long as it’s a Martin, I’ll love it. I’ve played every acoustic you can imagine over my 40+ years of playing and at the end of the day I’ll always choose Martin.
@stephenhenion83042 жыл бұрын
Me 🎵🎶🎵 too....
@ericmadeoftin82062 жыл бұрын
They just sound and feel better. Play a string loud or way up the neck or muted or ringing, etc, the response and tone are amazing. Sometimes I'll go, "what was that" as the guitar responds in some awesome way to something I'm doing. Willie Nelson, Niel Young and Eric Clapton have stories to tell too about their Martins.
@Moonshot5685 жыл бұрын
To my ears the new Martin sound much fuller much nicer , the old one looks pretty .
@RC32Smiths015 жыл бұрын
Pete and Lee are always an unpredictable and amazing combo in playing! Both guitars sound great!
@bobchambers83275 жыл бұрын
Unpredictable?? Do you know the definition of that word?
@RC32Smiths015 жыл бұрын
@@bobchambers8327 I mean that they don't typically do the same kind of jam twice. They are always new and fresh in playing imo
@poinkero4 жыл бұрын
The old one sound kinda loose, and lively. The new one sounds full but tight. It's like the strings on the new one has restriction in its movement.
@thatmg5 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt say that the new one is "brighter" id say it sounds "tighter" to my ears. It has more mids.
@josephochoa52305 жыл бұрын
Marcello Gonçalves you are exactly right. I thought the same.
@TheDennzio3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my impression
@nickcoulter9735 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Massive difference. The old one is definitely the guitar I prefer, but both are fantastic.
@larryrhindress29725 жыл бұрын
Well done!!! The older Martin has my vote. My D28 has that similar warm sound.
@chaingangzta135 жыл бұрын
Do a "Gilmore's 3.9 million strat vs his signature strat"
@Arcturian11115 жыл бұрын
lol
@torzsokszilveszter24445 жыл бұрын
Gilmoure strat vs Squire bullet strat (second hand)
@alexoller225 жыл бұрын
Julius Estrada “A” Gilmore black strat? It’sTHE Gilmore 3.9 mil black strat. The one and only... That’s why they paid that kind of money!!!
@alexoller225 жыл бұрын
Darian Hall lol you’re so right
@ricklewis58045 жыл бұрын
Julius Estrada Gilmour
@andrewf53905 жыл бұрын
The smile on Pete's face when he first starts playing Lee's guitar says it all.
@tomjjordan915 жыл бұрын
I think the point for me is that I personally have enjoyed listening to my guitar age. An old one might sound beautiful, but it has been a pleasure being around for and experiencing first hand, the changes in sound in my guitar as the years go on.
@apachehelicopter50015 жыл бұрын
70s guitars are inconsistent, but the good ones are fantastic. My 74 strat is awesome. A little heavy but it’s still a solid guitar
@WalkenDead3 жыл бұрын
My high school chemistry teacher had an old Martin that he had to send back for repairs, can't remember the model or year, it was back in the early '90's. I mention this for a couple of reasons, 1) the captain did lol 2) brought back a good memory. He was a really cool guy. The chemistry class had a huge storage room and he would let us come in during the study halls we had and just sit around and jam in that room. Coach Voiselle if you are still with us thank you man! He also coached track
@dylanbrown46833 жыл бұрын
Can’t beat the Martin sound, they sound so big and full. The best quote I heard about a Martin was 10 years ago, I was at my sisters house I had a cheap old guitar left there and I went there to show her my new Martin. She is a music lover but by far not a musician, she was blown away by the sound of the Martin but she then got the old guitar I left there and said remember this one?! And I played that one and to her untrained ears she said “the old one sounds like a cheap guitar but the Martin sounds like the full band is playing with it”
@marc_leblanc5 жыл бұрын
Love the warm full tone of a Martin guitar. I've owned a Shenandoah model (D-18-ish) and the D-45. Love them.
@jstar10006 ай бұрын
I had a Shenandoah HD-28 for many years, paid $500 for it back in the mid 80s sold it in the mid 2000s for around the same price but it had a lot of wear but was still a great guitar, I bought a new used D35 to replace it.
@SimonBurley5 жыл бұрын
Amazingly I actually like the new one better. Sounds like Neil Young when he was young! Sounds fresh to me, and bright but not too bright. Usually I like cedar topped acoustics and a more mellow sound, but this new guitar sounds absolutely superb to me.
@mjt118605 жыл бұрын
i agree. i was also thinking of neil young
@ericmadeoftin82062 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Neil play an old one though?
@nilsen589 Жыл бұрын
@@ericmadeoftin8206 when neil young was young, his guitar was young too.
@Casterman25 жыл бұрын
Cheers from the US! Great vid guys.! I bought an HD28 new in 2006. It gets warmer every year. Never leaves the case unless I’m playing it. Still has the smell. That smell is the best! I think at the end when the new one was playing rhythm and the old one was playing lead was just right. The older one has such flavor. The new one is super full and chunky. They sound amazing together. Cheers to the audio guys for getting it to translate tonally, on my crappy apple ear buds👍🏻
@dcallan15 жыл бұрын
The new guitar is strung with 13s from the factory not 12s. Also, the HD-35 bracing is forward shifted and scalloped, whereas the ‘72 D-35 would have been standard location and not scalloped. Besides age, I think the differences could be expected based on those specs alone.
@Artcore1035 жыл бұрын
Did he not say he changed the strings on the new one? I believe he did.
@dcallan15 жыл бұрын
@@Artcore103 My recollection was that he changed strings on the '72 to 12s. The new HD-35 was stock.
@Techco15 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how they just glaze over the fact they're braced differently. Comparison should have ended the moment they said the new one is an HD. How they couldnt have managed to find a d35 or even a d28 would have been a better comparison. Blows mind
@johnathanutahzio84745 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Hinds Because they’re morons who are barely above novices.
@tacratt60915 жыл бұрын
Martin dreads need 13-56 to make them shine, the 12’s make them thin
@chuckandkonnie24155 жыл бұрын
So much more character and depth to the older Martin.
@brycecourtneymusic5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The new guitar is so bright and snappy, to me the old one is so much smoother.
@MikeAshba5 жыл бұрын
The older one has my vote but both sounded great
@thefisherman28375 жыл бұрын
Almost different guitar tho. The hd35 has scalloped forward shifted braces it's going to sound more bassy. A normal d35 would've been the test. I've had the new hd35 the new d35 and a vintage...and played the pre reimagined d35...the hd35 to my ears sounded vintage from the start and massive but built very different
@zardonaz29635 жыл бұрын
I prefer the new one. Less bright but fuller sound and I like more bass in acoustic guitars. Both sound GREAT though.
@justinhobgood43124 жыл бұрын
pete your playing truly inspires me every time
@seanhealey20075 жыл бұрын
I'm fascinated by how I seemed to change my preference depending on who was playing and the style. Takeaway: a D35 is tops no matter how you slice it. Gentleman in white shirt plays-old one sounds better ; gentleman in blue shirt plays - new one sounds better
@Holtenstein5 жыл бұрын
I've gotten the chance to play many Martin guitars, authentic, Golden eras, D45,D50 and even the D100. The best sounding Martin I've ever played was a 1963 D28!! Age, when kept correctly, improves the sound.
@dezionlion5 жыл бұрын
Maybe they had better wood or luthiers?
@Holtenstein5 жыл бұрын
@@dezionlion No. Other than the addition of a truss rod in 1985 they're the same guitars. It's the age. Rosewood opens up over time. One of my favorites was the D18 Golden Era. It's mahogany and it has more bass immediately. Whereas the Rosewood will become better and better sounding. But once you get to a certain level of Martins the will give you a chill on the first strum. As long as they have fresh strings that is.
@Holtenstein5 жыл бұрын
@ROCCO SMURF Yes, the D28 GE and authentic are extremely good. Just much more expensive.
@joumannoe5 жыл бұрын
Videos with Pete are definitely the best! Spot on!!!
@WowIndescribable5 жыл бұрын
Really like the video editing - sped up when they are switching guitars so the listener gets to A/B the sounds of the two quickly. Thanks!
@Gordonsmusic9115 жыл бұрын
No doubt about it. The new one sounds better to my ear, but I'm not throwing rocks at the '72 model. It just has a different sound.
@BevisFriend20105 жыл бұрын
To me... The new one sounds cleaner and more distinctive. The old one sounds warmer, more homely & rounded.
@firdausHITMAN5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an ideal woman the way you've described the old one.
@jeffreywilliams63864 жыл бұрын
Homely or homey?
@jimmythefish5 жыл бұрын
The only other structural difference is that the 70s ones had a large, clunky bridge plate made of rosewood, whereas the new ones have a small maple bridge plate. I'm torn on this aging guitar - if you find a really old, great-sounding guitar it's probably the reason it's still around. It sounds great! I've played 60s Martins that I wouldn't trade my 2008 D-28 for. Mine changed after it was new, to my ears, but I think aging of a guitar won't turn a bad guitar into a good one. A really great-sounding guitar started out that way. See any Santa Cruz or Collings or Martin Authentic for evidence of that. They sound fantastic right out of the box.
@teamrockettes4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I really liked them both. Kind of an impressive feat of engineering that a modern Martin can sound so close to a decades-old guitar that has had the benefits of aging the wood.
@capohd283 жыл бұрын
Martin's standard series from 2018 on are as good as any they've produced. First newer Martin I have owned since 1988, and even ended selling that. I also have a 1944 D-18 and 1962 000-18. The 2018 D-41 is by far my favourite. I almost didn't buy it due to my aversion to bling, but the sound wowed me that I had to own it.
@MezzMcGillicuddy14 жыл бұрын
It's a fun video, but the problem with this comparison is that they're comparing two different models. The HD-35 has scalloped bracing, and the D-35 doesn't. It's impossible to tell how much age has affected the tone, since they never could have sounded alike to begin with. You'd need two guitars with the same specs. But, as I say, good fun.
@PANICBLADE Жыл бұрын
The bridge plates are also most likely different, as is the placement of the bracing, with the HD being forward shifted. Too much going on that could be contributing to the difference of sound aside from the age.
@fergar02065 жыл бұрын
Solution: buy a new one when you're young and enjoy it as it evolves
@beverlymichael58304 жыл бұрын
Yes that is what I did in 1969. Got my d18 new in 69. Still have it today and in excellent condition.
@mrericchwang4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I did. Bought a very close to new OMJM that I’ll play for years
@CardinalJHA4 жыл бұрын
I started playing quite late, I heard a while back that you could sit it on a stand by your TV/music system or whatever you have playing sound a lot, the vibrations from the noise simulating play time, giving the guitar that vintage sound quickly. Whether or not it's TRUE is different, but also seems another possible solution
@beverlymichael58304 жыл бұрын
@@CardinalJHA yes as long as the wood is vibrating. I heard a bluegrass player had a Martin he was not real fond of. Let it sit near a stereo for some time. It was totally different guitar and he loved the sound
@beverlymichael58304 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have always bought new and watch them become awesome martins. And to hear it evolve into itself and it’s own sound. I still have my 69 d18 I bought new. We grew up together. Not the same when buying used.
@docbobster5 жыл бұрын
To my ears, the new model is very scooped sounding, with heavy bass and high end but less midrange. I prefer the older one's sound, but then I learned guitar in the 1970s!
@josephtravers7775 жыл бұрын
I'm with you here. I've been playing for almost 50 years as well :)
@johnathanutahzio84745 жыл бұрын
Dude. One is a D35 and the other is a HD35. The bracing is totally different. This isn’t a fair comparison. They should’ve compared a D35 and a D35.
@DavidHBurkart5 жыл бұрын
The bracing is the difference with regard to the increased bass resonance. On this side of the video, the new guitar sounds actually sounds brighter, the '72 has a much more balanced projection of tones... to my ear anyway 😉
@955rocket5 жыл бұрын
Seems to me like the older has lost some it's high end, or ability to cut through the mix .
@gfurstnsu3 жыл бұрын
For me the older guitar had a mellower sound and the new one was sassy and brash. I think the younger generation (excuse my over generalizations) would like the brassy sound, but as I approach 80, I prefer the mellower sound. Thanks for doing this comparison. Both have that deep rich sound that is characteristic of a Martin Dreadnaught! Greeting from Daejeon, South Korea.
@christopherwatkins97292 жыл бұрын
G'Day George... Hope my great grandchildren enjoy my CRAFTER Auditorium in 50 years !!!!! and Greetings from New Zealand... Yes, am happy to say I do have an Italian, (ESTON) Vintage, Jumbo/Dreadnought, Acoustic/Electric, Cedar Top, over 50 years age... and Yes... it has an appealing improved tone and is staying "In the family"... also with it's accompanying 1984 VOX AMP ... (But I play it mostly as an Acoustic guitar)... Warm Regards... Chris... ☘
@backroadboys56812 жыл бұрын
As a 23 year old I can contest I preferred the older d35 but I may be a little biased because my guitar teacher played a 1975 Martin d35 and it put everything I’ve ever compared it to to shame
@MrRbillharz Жыл бұрын
Good ear! The original D-35s had a rosewood bridge plate and lighter bracing than the D-28. The were designed for the singer song writer. The newer D-35s have a maple bridge plate and have a brighter more modern sound.
@dkambury5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video! I have a '72 D-35 I purchased new (~$700 USD), sold to my best friend in '76, and recovered it in 2009 after he passed away. Unfortunately, after decades of cigarette smoke turned it orange, then finished off with a few years in an unfinished attic in Oregon, "knackered" would have been a vast improvement over the actual condition. I had it restored, reset, refretted, and repaired, and now it's back home and played regularly. One thing to note regarding the neck, it came matte-finished, not lacquered, as can be seen at the heel; decades of being played, though, has polished the neck to a high, deep gloss. Another thing to note is that the bridge placement in the 72s was slightly off, causing slight intonation problems. This, too, was fixed in the repair.
@ragingchimera80215 жыл бұрын
If I was recording in a band mix I might go with the newer one, more dynamics and sonic range. If I was sitting around strumming I'd go with the older one, such a warm pleasant sound.
@DanielTPeace4 жыл бұрын
An important distinction.
@TheAlpineProject5 жыл бұрын
I came here because recently I restrung my first guitar, an old Martin kit guitar. Got it through a Marlboro catalog when I was a boy. It's pushing 20 now. I hadn't played it more than an hour in the past five years and had kept the same old strings on it. I cleaned it up, replaced them with a fresh set of the same kind, and the guitar seems to sound better than five years ago.
@thalstantrailwalker23935 жыл бұрын
I loved both guitars, but I think I prefer the newer one in terms of sound. That said, the sound of the older one is phenomenal. Both are great, and I would be extremely happy with either. Captain, you are a lucky guy to have found that wonderful guitar. Martin did a fantastic job in restoring that for you. What would really sell me though is how it plays.
@stateofblitz3 жыл бұрын
The original definitely sounds more settled in and warmer. Beautiful. I have a Yamaha with the age treated top and the sound difference from one that's not is quite substantial.
@torbenmeldgaard81125 жыл бұрын
"Filmed on location at Andertons Honolulu" 😘
@LPCustom35 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they wished they were in Hawaii...
@dezionlion5 жыл бұрын
I know I do ALOHA!
@524coconut5 жыл бұрын
I lost my shit for a minute and thought there was a hidden Andertons here in honolulu😭
@thegee-tahguy48775 жыл бұрын
A D-35 is definitely "blingier" than a D-28.... Back then, the D-35 was the only Martin dread with a bound neck. The D-28 does not have a bound neck. As far as the D-35 comparison goes, other than the forward-shifted X brace, the scalloped bracing and the low profile neck, the new 35 has an adjustable single action compression truss rod (since 1985) and a faux tortoise pickguard whereas the old 35 has a non-adjustable rod and a plain black pickguard.
@guitarelaxed5 жыл бұрын
The chord progression of the intro jam reminded me of the song "Follow me" from Pat Metheny´s "Imaginary day" record.
@jimmypilgrim5 жыл бұрын
A few notes on what makes a D35 different than a D28: Martin starting building the D35 in 1965, not the 1970’s. The D35 has a bound neck and herringbone trim. The D28 could have herringbone but it was an option. The quality of the wood, particularly the top was supposed to be superior for each Martin guitar as you go from the D35 to D41 to D45. Another difference is scalloped bracing, which could make a big difference in the sound. Opinion: I lam the original owner of a 1975 D28 and it has aged nicely but the 70’s Martins were weak compared to earlier generations, even without the Brazilian rosewood. Martin was going through some labor issues in the 70’s including a strike in 1979, which could have caused quality issues.
@markntexas82652 жыл бұрын
I am 54 all American just like a bunch of British companies went through labor and supply chain issues in the ‘70’s. So I completely trust your account of Martins issues.
@EveningCrow10 ай бұрын
Some slight corrections: the D-35 does not come with herringbone. The D-28 originally did, but was removed. Herringbone is now present on all the HD series, which also has scalloped bracing. There are other custom, non production runs that have had it though.
@sirhulk53255 жыл бұрын
I prefer the older one. It feels warmer to me
@Artcore1035 жыл бұрын
I prefer it too but it's the opposite of warmer, it's brighter. The new one is warmer.
@lpjbird5 жыл бұрын
I believe we have differing opinions as to the definition of brighter and warmer maybe. To me the older sounds bassier which I refer to warmer. Haha, make sense?
@Peasmouldia5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, took ten years for mine to play in. Got better sound as the years went on but now at 50yrs old a neck reset is well overdue. Best vid you've ever done sir. Ta.
@1rwjwith5 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a Martin...beautiful sound.
@lorenjo5 жыл бұрын
Try Larrivee mate.
@shawnsnow64135 жыл бұрын
@@lorenjo +1 for Larrivee D03. Martins are good but nothing like a Larrivee either.
@ResoBridge5 жыл бұрын
"The neck needed a reset and the bracing was loose..." I'd say that answers the question right there. That's my issue with old guitars in general - if they have been played most of them are well worn and a a bit knackered. In the 'classical' guitar world there is the idea that after a few decades the tops wear out and the guitar is done.
@jimgriggs21844 жыл бұрын
Ok. they're both nice. I enjoyed the playing, I enjoyed the stories behind them etc etc. But whats with the statue of the dude with his beans hanging out at 24:40?
@AbbieHoffmansGhost5 жыл бұрын
I've had lots of Martin's both new and vintage and a Martin is still my go to guitar. Given a choice of these two guitars I would choose the new one.
@calebbhawkins5 жыл бұрын
One thing really shows is that the captain mostly plays electric guitar. Acoustic musicians just play differently.
@andrewcrawley2855 жыл бұрын
yeah, true. I'm the same
@zachjollimore43395 жыл бұрын
I started on acoustic and yea, it's a thing, switching to electric was a whole new game.
@shmooless36995 жыл бұрын
Differently ? Huh, never heard anyone spell ‘better’ that way
@mouloudo5 жыл бұрын
He has the touch though, can't teach that
@joshiuahallenbeck5315 жыл бұрын
@@zachjollimore4339 heck yeah it is!
@Mr512austintexas2 жыл бұрын
Great fun listening to this conversation, and the playing is excellent! Always fun to do an "A/B" comparison, and these are two fine guitars to compare. Toggling back and forth between 12:30 and about 12:50 the difference is pretty clear to my ears; the new one is bright & brash, the older one is mellower and rounder, more mature sounding. Personally, I prefer the old one, but my bottom line theory is that there aren't "best" guitars, just "favorites". If you're looking for a keeper guitar, just find one that sings to you in a special way, play it with love and be happy! 😀
@richardgredwulf-cronley38585 жыл бұрын
That 70's has a better sound, some kind of authority coming out of it. And I even didnt look at the video. Its got a hollow jangle that is only heard on older instruments
@timothycormier34945 жыл бұрын
My martin is the crown jewel of my guitars. I can have all the boomy bass and immediately jump into the higher jingley jangling notes and they cut right through without drowning each other out. I love my martin
@Brmmsilva5 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the older one. What a beautiful sound!
@davidwells997 Жыл бұрын
I KNOW they get better with age! I have an Alvarez-Yairi DY77 that I bought in 1979. When I bought a Taylor 710 in 1997, the Yairi was relegated to storage. I got it out last year (2022) and after cleaning it up and having a local repair guy do some fret work and other minor adjustment, it has turned out to be an amazing sounding guitar that I play more often than my Taylors.
@rp89d285 жыл бұрын
The '72 by a mile. Open and more articulate. New one sounds a bit congested. Which will improve over time
@kempire46234 жыл бұрын
Outside of the great playing, information, and general entertainment value, I don't feel like enough credit is given to the investment they put into the rooms they film in. Love how the acoustic room has a different vibe and decor than the electric demos. Thanks guys!
@bluesysamurainao45575 жыл бұрын
Nice review and performance!! New one is tight and stiff. Vintage one is mild ,dry and well balanced. I love Martin tone the best so both are awesome!!
@RonRivet5 жыл бұрын
Hard to tell listening through my laptop speakers but the old Martin seemed to sound warmer than the new one. With that being said...I would be thrilled to own either one of those!
@Randorita5 жыл бұрын
Pete, I smell my guitars, too! I can't decide if I prefer the smell of rosewood or mahogany. Both are great!
@TheBigGuppy5 жыл бұрын
Thats weird that you post that. I just bought a sloped shoulder all mahogany Martin dreadnaught and I love the smell of that thing.
@rosslynemrys58294 жыл бұрын
There are mugs now for Martin fans, Sound hole sniffers!!
@davidmcleandamrecordings3673 Жыл бұрын
There is a huge adjustment that the wood goes through. As years go by the wood patenas and balances ..
@probono93415 жыл бұрын
The HD-35 has forward-shifted scalloped bracing vs a D-35 which has Martin’s standard bracing. The HD Model will have deeper bass response and will be louder overall because of the bracing pattern.
@ryanrego8085 жыл бұрын
Pro Bono pretty much making this comparison pointless right?
@dougamacker64695 жыл бұрын
The HD 35 has different bracing (Scalloped). The Captain's D 35 has standard bracing. Both sound great. It is strictly a preference to the player.
@paulstubbs44875 жыл бұрын
I firmly believe acoustic guitars improve not with age but when they are played. I bought a Tanglewood for around £600 and it didn't inspire me at all for many years until I started on acoustic lessons and played it several times a week. After 18 months it sounded massively better and as Pete says just seems to sound better the more I play it. I now have fairly new high end Taylor's and Martin's that don't sound as good but I'm sure when played in they will. If I can ever put my Tanglewood down that is!
@BeefNEggs0575 жыл бұрын
Bracing techniques have changed giving more resonance on the new one. The older one is quieter and more mellow (like me). Scalloped bracing and all that is relatively new right? My $300 Yamaha sounds just as good though. Def look at one if you are in the market. Best sounding guitar I picked up.
@j.dietrich5 жыл бұрын
Horses for courses really. Martin's "HD" branding is quite appropriate - the new guitar has more clarity, better note definition and a more extended overtone series. Unsurprisingly, the old guitar has all the characteristics we associate with "vintage", with a warmer, softer tone and a bit of natural compression. I don't think it's useful to call either guitar better, they're just different.
@mymodel65 жыл бұрын
Natural compression lol...
@budandbean15 жыл бұрын
@J Dietrich really excellent post... totally agree.
@guildofgamefails5 жыл бұрын
Doesnt the 'hd' signify herringbone dreadnought? 😅 I agree with your point, but that's not what the hd means 😁
@charlie-obrien5 жыл бұрын
I agree they both sound good. But the '72 sounds better to my ear.
@bobbybo34582 жыл бұрын
Just came across this video. Don't know how I missed it before now. Great comparison between two great guitars. I have a 2008 HD-35 that was new old stock in 2010 that just keeps getting better every year. and I just loved that blues shuffle that you guys did at the end!!
@papashuvitsskateboardforth83995 жыл бұрын
I've a 1970 Eko Ranger, it's the nuts and like Pete's, gets played with every day.
@georgetempest96275 жыл бұрын
I have an EKO 12 string since since 1979, I love it, it never bent or bulged and has been in many different climates. Why should I waste money on an ugly Martin?
@jpizzleforizzle5 жыл бұрын
Both are great. The new one records "louder", is a bit brighter, and beefier in the low end. The 72 seems to have a more even response from string to string, with a little dip in the mid frequencies. I would prefer the new one for live playing (especially un-mic'd) and the 72 for recording and mic'd use. The 72 would probably need less compression than the new model also.
@cjgsicknote5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely this
@gmoore61665 жыл бұрын
Love my Martins! The new HD sounds good but is too bright now compared to the older more mellow. The good news is when the new HD ages it will mellow too:) Both are great guitars!
@garcdonald Жыл бұрын
Xactly! My 72 D-35: full, deep, massive base response and resonance. My 2019 HD-35, extremely bright mids and highs. Almost half the base response. Beautiful, incredible brightness but personally, I do hope it mellows and deepens.
@alan4sure5 жыл бұрын
My D35 sounded good from the day I tried it in the store. Now 4 yrs later, after playing it hard and loud a lot, the tone has got even better! That's how you improve the sound, play hard and loud, get that wood resonating so it loosens up, and play often. If you strum gently and pick gently it won't get much better over time.
@Mr.56Goldtop5 жыл бұрын
They keep saying the 50 year old one has a brighter sound, but I think the new one is a lot brighter, and the old one has a warmer tone.
@kentriley19335 жыл бұрын
I heard that right away
@Bossanovawitcha5 жыл бұрын
neither a Taylor still
@kentriley19335 жыл бұрын
@@Bossanovawitcha yes. I have a Baby Taylor it can be played loud if you like. great tone and play ability and very bright has gotten better with age. But with tempture have to adjust neck a few times a year .I am sure higher end Taylors you probably dont have to Adjust neck too much.
@Bossanovawitcha5 жыл бұрын
Kent Riley true.. save up for that GS Mini Koa, its wild wild wild haha
@brianpizzuti88265 жыл бұрын
I think they said that about the new one, not the old one.
@garrysimmons1115 жыл бұрын
My 1969 D-18 needed a reset and some TLC. Came back sounding and playing great but not an inexpensive repair. I think it's very common for vintage acoustics to need a reset/etc.
@thiilaak5 жыл бұрын
To your ears, playing, the newer one might sound better. The microphone says the opposite. The older one sounds way better. Much more balanced and classy.
@panzerlieb5 жыл бұрын
Yep, that’s what happens. I’m not sure if they sound “better” because that’s really subjective to the individual. But most of them, no matter who made made them, do tend to balance out over time. I used to have this Kay acoustic made in the mid 60’s that sounded fantastic. Even though it was low end guitar at the time it was made. 30 years of aging did absolute wonders for it. The other thing to remember is a majority of the guitars made in the 60’s and prior, even the “cheap ones”, were made of solid wood. They hadn’t gotten into substituting plywood for the back and sides yet.
@67ratsrule4 жыл бұрын
I love classic Martins. I grew up listening to a 66 D28, and to my ears it is the only thing that sounds right. I have that same D28 now, and a Yamaha for everything else. A couple of years ago, my mom’s Martin spent 2 months at a luthiers to get the neck reset and the headstock repaired. The guitar had been last repaired in Nazareth in about 1982, for headstock repair neck reset and refretting.
@josephmullinsii84614 жыл бұрын
Martin's get all the fame but I have to wonder how many great songs were written on a Yamaha just siding on the side of a couch
@kevinmorris77223 жыл бұрын
Lee's sounds much more balanced. The bodies go through some deformation. The neck angle must be fixed on most older accustics not just the truss rod. the other thing is a Martin expert fixed Lee's guitar. Also Lee's has Brazilian rosewood and the new has Indian rosewood. But the test will come 40yrs on the new one.
@RWBHere2 жыл бұрын
And the two guitars are braced in different places, so it will be interesting to hear how the new one changes with age, for that reason alone. They'll never sound exactly the same. That said, two 'identical' acoustic guitars are not guaranteed to sound exactly the same anyway, because the wood is from different trees, or different parts of the same trees, and the grain is different. Furthermore, the craftspeople who made the two might be different, and working at different times of year.... the list of variables can go on.
@adamscottv2 жыл бұрын
Lee's is also Indian. He says that. He could not have brought a Brazilian guitar to the UK from the US.
@thomasraven5 жыл бұрын
Wood certainly changes over time. I have a 1966 Jazzmaster and the neck feels different from any modern guitar I've ever played. It's not only the age of the wood that changes the sound, it's the differences in the way the wood was grown. 50 years ago, no one was modifying genetics and speed growing crops. Trees today are often grown faster and have less overall density in many cases.
@ahiwalter91535 жыл бұрын
i don’t even play acoustic but I still wanted to watch these two jam out.
@stevegroves5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed both the playing and the demo, thanks guys. Incidentally I spent over 2 hours in a guitar shop trying multiple Epiphone and Taylor guitars (thought I was going to buy a Taylor) and ended up buying a Martin road series. For some reason the Taylor 114ce just didnt feel right though I know its a great guitar, the cheaper Epiphones were great plugged in but lacked feel and tone without an amp but the Martin, wow it wooed me! and the feel, the sound is just awesome. Close second was an Epiphone master built it was very good!. I have a 24 year old Yamaha and it does sound good but the Martin, well Its the only make for me now.
@paulrenevos4 жыл бұрын
The old one sounds more ‘even’ by lack of a better word, I prefer it
@pappyodanial3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1964 D-21 with Brazilian back and sides. The sound of Brazilian is unparalleled.
@petestaint83123 жыл бұрын
Wow! Awesome. 👍
@GageTheCannon5 жыл бұрын
Pete really is an amazing guitarist.
@Thelongesteconoline Жыл бұрын
Great video. The Dane and Captain playing the grandpa’s guitars for once! Thanks for the video guys. This one was really cool.
@TheBigGuppy5 жыл бұрын
Acoustic guitars really vary from individual builds. I just bought a new all Mahogany Martin. I was prepared to buy a lot more expensive guitar. I hated the look but I ended up buying a DSS-15M Streetmaster. It was the best sounding guitar in the room. Better than guitars twice its price..... and way better than the other DSS-15Ms. Its a freak. I just wish it didn't look like distressed barn siding.
@onixtheone3 жыл бұрын
If you have an old acoustic you can usually test if you’re bracing is coming un-glued by tapping all over the soundboard firmly with a finger, you might hear what sounds like a loose snare sound “thwack” rather than a resonant “thum” that has a note to it.
@SelmervanAlten5 жыл бұрын
Funny that, just finished a similar quest for myself, though on a budget. Ended up with a 1977 Yamaha SF-700. So far I'm a happy camper
@absolutless5 жыл бұрын
I've got a 72 d-28 and a 63 D-16. The neck on the 72, somehow has made it the best acoustic I've played, but the sound of the 63 is un-matchable. The great thing about Martin is they have existed for so long and maintained quality for most of those years. Difficult to do.
@AlexanderTerczka5 жыл бұрын
There might by a simple reason for the myth that old guitars sound better. Every year and brand has good and bad guitars. Over the years the bad ones got binned/smashed and good ones were taken care off. So only the good guitars survive.
@zeroceiling5 жыл бұрын
No...there are very few people smashing Martins or Gibsons of any kind...great...good or just average....
@thomasp9614 жыл бұрын
Interesting theory. Also wonder about old growth vs. new growth wood.
@yourrnamee12804 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I had an old broken Maton, sang like it had been on this earth for a lonnng time, it could play itself . Bought a Martin, expensive, apparently on par with the Maton. it was NOTHING compared to the Maton.
@smokesgtp5 жыл бұрын
They both sound excellent. The early 70's is much more open, airy but mellow. Better sustain. Not as scooped in the eq.
@mrmountain735 жыл бұрын
Yes, the old one is more pleasant to the ear. The new one is pretty harsh to me. I go for the old one. :)
@randgloger2965 жыл бұрын
Just like golf clubs, every guitar is better than the person playing it.
@Rhsummers19414 жыл бұрын
They do sound different with the new sounding brighter. The bracing on the new HD is different and contributes to the volume difference but I think with age the new one will mellow.
@abelincoln955 жыл бұрын
Wish they had some Gibson J-200's to compare..Talk about some tone generators!! They are incredible.Great video!!
@chrisjames19245 жыл бұрын
Incredible guitars, but not as warm as a J45 or a Jumbo Advanced. Loud, yes, but I find them to be quite treblley.
@brocluno013 жыл бұрын
I think what happens, in part, is that lacquer cracks as it ages. That cracking means it is not a complete surface so the wood is freer to flex. The true test is to refinish the aged guitar and then compare ...