Teenage Engineering OP-XY - The Ultimate Deep Dive!

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Andertons Synths, Keys and Tech

Andertons Synths, Keys and Tech

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@eapfep
@eapfep 6 күн бұрын
Incredible amount of engineering and custom software work in a tiny and well made package. As someone who has owned nearly every other groove box out there, I challenge folks criticizing the price to watch this video in its entirety - it definitely helps rationalize it. Not saying there isn't incredible gear out there at a lower price point (Dirtywave M8 M:02 for one), but this thing is on a completely different level vs. other groove boxes.
@F_letc.h
@F_letc.h 8 күн бұрын
Probably one of the best pieces of gear I’ve seen in ages. Well done, Teenage Engineering.
@pshearduk
@pshearduk 5 күн бұрын
agreed mate, just ordered.
@elementlab41
@elementlab41 8 күн бұрын
I love Will. He was so great with the KO II roll out, and I am so happy to see him back with XY. One of the best company reps out there. Love my XY and this is exactly the video I was looking for to help me dive deeper. I must say I'm in love with mine. If you're willing to give it an actual chance, I think you'll find something very special.
@jantuitman
@jantuitman 7 күн бұрын
You guys really did a great job presenting it with much fun, esp with the “saxophone”, near the end. I had a huge laugh, and it also convinced me that this thing actually is worth buying. There is a lot of other gear that can do more for the same price, but this is hard to beat in terms of how much joy and simplicity it brings in a very small form factor, while still being able to crank out complete sounding pieces.
@dymszn
@dymszn 6 күн бұрын
Every device needs a deep dive with the writer of the manual Iike this, well done, I’m about to unlock new levels of creativity thank you
@gregonater
@gregonater 8 күн бұрын
I do find it interesting how many comments here already mention it being a cheap plastic toy, when it's really a dense, aluminum enclosure, solid feeling device. It's definitely expensive, but it doesn't really make sense why so many people are losing their minds over it. Just move on if you think it's too expensive?
@onesuavestudio
@onesuavestudio 8 күн бұрын
lowkey its like some people are trying to shame TE into lowering the cost into a price point they can afford
@DomDomPop
@DomDomPop 8 күн бұрын
What do you expect? There are genuinely more people whose only interaction with TE products is complaining about TE products whenever one is released than there are actual TE customers. It’s insane. I’ve never seen anything like it with any other brand, except maybe Apple.
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 8 күн бұрын
I have an op-1 field, ep-133, and op-z… This thing is too expensive. It was field price, sure. I still want it though lol
@DomDomPop
@DomDomPop 8 күн бұрын
@ I like to remind people that my first pro-level trumpet was somewhere around $1500 in 22 years ago money. That same trumpet is $3400 now. All it does is make toots. There are plenty of guitars and basses that I want and will never buy. That doesn’t mean they’re too expensive, it means I’m not the market they’re selling to. If it was too expensive, it wouldn’t sell at all. People REALLY don’t seem to like the idea that someone is making something that’s not marketed to them, whether it’s cars or boats or instruments or computers or anything else.
@relative_vie
@relative_vie 8 күн бұрын
Abelton Push vs This. I’d choose this.
@sounDr.
@sounDr. 8 күн бұрын
This video has confirmed my feelings for this device, it is absolutely worth it for me and my interests and I am definitely going to get one soon. You guys really killed it with this one!
@robertjamesonmusic
@robertjamesonmusic 7 күн бұрын
You won’t regret it. TE makes the best stuff
@sounDr.
@sounDr. 7 күн бұрын
They really do make Great music gear, I love my KO2 and pocket operators, and have used most of them since release day. The XY has just arrived at the perfect time for me.
@HennyThaBizness
@HennyThaBizness 6 күн бұрын
Best video on the XY to date! Well done 🙏🏼
@bwest6275
@bwest6275 8 күн бұрын
Yessss...I just got my OP-XY too, this is going to be so helpful. Thank you! edit: OMG i'm only 40 mins in and MY GOD this is such a beast! I'm shaking with excitement over all the possibilities, all inside my sling bag :D
@Calimakoo
@Calimakoo 3 күн бұрын
You lucky dog you!
@skodamann
@skodamann 8 сағат бұрын
You shakin...parkinsons
@pshearduk
@pshearduk 5 күн бұрын
I think that Will from TE does an incredible job of conveying the concepts of the op-xy and also has he has created its documentation, he must be a very clever guy indeed. ** and I purchased it today 😊 **
@guillaumemigas
@guillaumemigas 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video . Will is very clear in explaining the OP XY capabilities , very pleasant to listen to this deep dive !
@relative_vie
@relative_vie 8 күн бұрын
the video needed on youtube for this thing.
@SONWU
@SONWU 7 күн бұрын
Excellent presentation!
@Farold_Haltermeyer
@Farold_Haltermeyer 7 күн бұрын
Have you taken the dive yet chief? Watching this it’s defo got your name written all over it
@losensor
@losensor 6 күн бұрын
I bought an op-1 field becoz your videos lol. Waiting for your xy too
@kolbasevitch
@kolbasevitch 4 күн бұрын
More than synth-maracas I love the idea that during a lunch Will’s colleague drinks beer. Sounds like a dream job
@videowatcher1235
@videowatcher1235 3 күн бұрын
Wow that was awesome!! Well worth the extended play what a beast of a box. Thanks for going so in depth on it. Jack + Oz crushed this, and Will pulled out an amazing track to show all these features off
@VestanPance2007
@VestanPance2007 8 күн бұрын
Absolutely incredible, what a device. Love it.
@danhill9534
@danhill9534 7 күн бұрын
Andertons is such a good shop and place to go. Loving the XY. Would love to get it at some point.
@REFLECT-eg8zy
@REFLECT-eg8zy 6 күн бұрын
This post shows the real potential of this instrument. Thank you for that … and thank you for the music !! I had to view it a second time … 😎
@florianschartner2030
@florianschartner2030 8 күн бұрын
What a fantastic video. Thanks so much.
@robertjamesonmusic
@robertjamesonmusic 7 күн бұрын
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!! This and the OP-1 Field are INCREDIBLE!!! ❤
@Katmat87
@Katmat87 7 күн бұрын
This is the portable groovebox I’ve been waiting for but doesn’t seem like it’s been technically possible at this size till now. 8 tracks, Synths, sampler, sequencer, song mode, midi out, audio in. All in a tiny but complete package. There really ain’t anything else this good at this size on the market.
@robertjamesonmusic
@robertjamesonmusic 7 күн бұрын
And w a mic for vocals!! Dream come true
@rorz999
@rorz999 6 күн бұрын
The Dirtywave M8 does all of this for a third of the price
@zanza_the_rewolverine
@zanza_the_rewolverine 6 күн бұрын
Same here, but i need this to chop samples
@Katmat87
@Katmat87 5 күн бұрын
@@rorz999haven’t used it but from what I’ve seen, no xox sequencer, or knobs for performing with and a whole lot of staring into screen punching buttons. It’s a completely different kind of device. I think I know which one will be more fun to use
@Katmat87
@Katmat87 5 күн бұрын
@@zanza_the_rewolverineI reckon an update is coming, but I’ve used plenty of old school samplers and can happily chop manually and without a screen if needs be
@arechfer
@arechfer 8 күн бұрын
Great video…loving mine since first second…this machine shines in many aspects…u can get unusual results in the sequencer side of the composition as in the sound design part of itself…very inspiring…I can’t imagine what this machine can be with some updates ( slicing samples for example) I think this machine worth every penny
@sock_park
@sock_park 4 күн бұрын
Poor Jack is just DYING to touch the damn thing through most of the video hahaha! Let our boy COOOOOK
@eloipainchaud1401
@eloipainchaud1401 6 күн бұрын
Fantastic demo. Very inspiring. That Oz sampling was just a killer maaaan!!! 😂
@wehongryy
@wehongryy 8 күн бұрын
Wow 2h, was wondering why it took so long for y'alls vid to come out. Can't wait to give it a watch!
@renehasp
@renehasp 4 күн бұрын
Best video to teach me so much more about my XY!!!!! LOVE THIS THING!!!!!!
@indigosnow_
@indigosnow_ 8 күн бұрын
Was gonna get the T7 but ill probably just save up for this. Looks mad fun
@reneeschke
@reneeschke 7 күн бұрын
the hosts level of enthusiasm and excitement is hard to take seriously.
@BillyRayBlackwood
@BillyRayBlackwood 7 күн бұрын
Yeah I like this channel but come on, he’s a pro level keyboard player and acting he’ll use brain for chord changes.
@videosarchive8058
@videosarchive8058 7 күн бұрын
This is the video, I’ve been waiting for. Cheers
@chrisconnollyofficial
@chrisconnollyofficial 7 күн бұрын
Me: Recently bought the TE OP-1 Field TE: Heres a new model
@theartscope4297
@theartscope4297 6 күн бұрын
not the same thing,, op1 = performance based opxy : sequence based
@chrisconnollyofficial
@chrisconnollyofficial 5 сағат бұрын
I prefer the sequence concept better to be fair. Since owning synths like the 303 and o09 back in the day, I've loved sequencing ;)
@digicat247
@digicat247 8 күн бұрын
Come at me; this is their best instrument yet and one of the more capable groove boxes on the market. (Yup, I know Elektron exists but not everyone likes their workflow.)
@mavfan1
@mavfan1 8 күн бұрын
Very cool, thanks for this long form overview!!!
@johanwinsborn
@johanwinsborn 7 күн бұрын
Great video. Excellent device. Worth every penny.
@allegro_manontroppo
@allegro_manontroppo 8 күн бұрын
I am truly grateful to T.E. for creating such an amazing musical instrument. I purchased the OP XY, and I can say it’s the most incredible instrument I’ve ever owned, and I’ve had several grooveboxes and synths. Here we are on another level. Thanks to Andertons for this in-depth analysis.
@opticalman6417
@opticalman6417 8 күн бұрын
boy the world of sampling has really blown up in the last 5 years
@relative_vie
@relative_vie 8 күн бұрын
truly. what a day to be alive
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 8 күн бұрын
Are you 10? Do you know when the first mpc came out?
@opticalman6417
@opticalman6417 8 күн бұрын
@@MyNameJeff.. 1984
@opticalman6417
@opticalman6417 8 күн бұрын
@@relative_vie i agree
@ameeqalli8115
@ameeqalli8115 8 күн бұрын
Last 5 years for you?
@nyanko2077
@nyanko2077 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the long tutorial. Just ordered one. Not yet convinced, I need to get my hands on it, but as a portable device, seems pretty solid.
@captainlovett4724
@captainlovett4724 7 күн бұрын
Having it your hands absolutely affirms that it is not only very capable but also an immense joy to use and quick to learn. I can confirm 😎
@gikisTSB
@gikisTSB 7 күн бұрын
It's the most efficient, most compact, most amazing electronic instrument and machine I've ever had. I have lots of stuff.
@xmeoff
@xmeoff 6 күн бұрын
Great video and really helpful to me, less helpful to my bank balance - just ordered it. Can’t wait to try it out 👍
@ForecastGrim
@ForecastGrim 8 күн бұрын
That arranger workflow is pretty sick…. Possibly faster than anything else….
@ManCalledMif
@ManCalledMif 7 күн бұрын
Worth every penny but I already have so much gear I haven’t maxed out.
@smartinussen
@smartinussen 8 күн бұрын
Watching so many videos about this since the launch; This and Will just sold it like no other. It’s such an amazing and capable product. So immediate and distraction free compared to a laptop which many compares it to pricewise #addtobasket
@lastminute3668
@lastminute3668 8 күн бұрын
Since it’s expensive it made opz price go down. Got a perfect condition opz for 240$ . Thanks teenage!
@lemonrain2741
@lemonrain2741 6 күн бұрын
Amazing price. OP-Z forever.
@FairuzOsman
@FairuzOsman 8 күн бұрын
17:07 is prime r/synthesizercirclejerk material
@michaeljdolan8050
@michaeljdolan8050 6 күн бұрын
Insane example to open on
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 8 күн бұрын
Not having the fun features of the op-z (I love motion, photomatic, etc) Is a bummer
@vagueversatile
@vagueversatile 6 күн бұрын
1:01:53 sidechain compression like the new DTII DNII would be good too
@johnd7564
@johnd7564 3 күн бұрын
1:19:11 "Just learn one chord, that's all you need. This does the rest. You're good." I'm impressed by the device, but that statement exemplifies the Teenage Engineering mindset that bothers so many. Much like Apple, they build in comfortable guardrails that guide users to do things Their Way, and even basic capabilities TE doesn't value are omitted. Example: the lack of undo on OP-1 and OP-1 Field. You can actually do undo by lifting before a take, then you can drop if you don't like what you added. But TE doesn't think you should undo, so they don't make it easy; forgetting to lift first prevents you from undoing. You can practically hear TE chiding you: "we told you the spirit of OP-1 is creative experimentation, not multiple takes. Limitations are freedom, limitations are creativity, limitations force the simplicity that leads to happiness." I like their hardware and own more than a little of it. It's fun, but I always feel they're much more interested in their vision than in my productivity. "That's cool" trumps "that's useful" in every design meeting. 1:21:44 Red means recording... where have I heard that before? Isn't it trademarked? ;)
@cardoman3986
@cardoman3986 7 күн бұрын
I believe him because of the vocal fry
@peterbondmusic
@peterbondmusic 8 күн бұрын
Been looking forward to this!!
@simonvanscolina
@simonvanscolina 3 күн бұрын
I survived 1 hours 42 mins before i ordered damn it.
@bondi5000
@bondi5000 Күн бұрын
Ha ha ha!! That’s 1 hour and 42 minutes less you’ll have an OP XY to enjoy in your life. Could be worse. Enjoy!
@Ambientnauts
@Ambientnauts 6 күн бұрын
So it's a modern portable goovebox with tons of connectivity. And super sounds. Pretty cool, price point is gonna keep it away from some of the groovebox crowd.
@zanza_the_rewolverine
@zanza_the_rewolverine 6 күн бұрын
Make this chop samples Auto chop Lazy chop Time strech Tempo detection And I buy this…
@mark.sismore
@mark.sismore 3 күн бұрын
Outstanding video on an outstanding instrument…….My Polybrute 12 savings pot is about to take a hit…😮😮😮 I need this thing in my life.
@vinylarchaeologist
@vinylarchaeologist 7 күн бұрын
Those in-between ads were gold 😅😅😅
@_fig.8
@_fig.8 7 күн бұрын
alluring overview and fabulous instruction!
@Khordmaster
@Khordmaster 8 күн бұрын
This was an incredible presentation! Kudos to both of you. Learned a ton!
@ryanrobinson6612
@ryanrobinson6612 3 күн бұрын
yeah they delivered on this one.
@nor44lab
@nor44lab 8 күн бұрын
Great breakdown of the instrument. Been keeping my eye on this launch, all forum chats and demo videos. Absolutely on my wishlist! I'm hoping sample-chop-to-keys comes in an update before I have saved up ;)
@Farold_Haltermeyer
@Farold_Haltermeyer 7 күн бұрын
Vocal fry was making this a tough watch at the start...but then something happened and energy levels jumped...and it all becomes very clear...it’s certainly making the predictability, dullness and rigidity of step sequencing intriguingly fun for once. Had the OP-Z, was great but having to use a phone as a screen killed my excitement at the awesome sounds and creativity...but this does indeed make it better in almost every way. Brilliant demo irrespective of your take...and many of the features discussed were news to me despite watching a lot of others! Thanks both...I can hear the thuds of people falling off the fence thanks to this demo
@mystscot9814
@mystscot9814 8 күн бұрын
Jacks back!!
@reneeschke
@reneeschke 7 күн бұрын
turning both drum channels down as shown at 59:44 by holding the drum track buttons unfortunately also soloes them. meaining while reducing the volume of the drums, you ironically hear nothing but the drums getting quieter. would be nice to be able to opt out of muting by holding. because right now only one of the features makes sense: either mute by holding multiple or holding and level multiple with one knob
@vernellshelton90
@vernellshelton90 7 күн бұрын
Interesting, quality, usable, fun gear can’t be priced cheap. ⚠️ Behringer has made “some” people believe engineers should stop advancing technology. It’s different prices for different people. #movingfoward
@IsraelFerrerCamacho
@IsraelFerrerCamacho 4 күн бұрын
Great presentation!
@voteutopia7548
@voteutopia7548 7 күн бұрын
Oh man! So tempted. Id love to see a bounce to disk or some kind of song audio bounce function and streaming long samples from disk. Even without that though this thing is AMAZING!
@1music_1mic
@1music_1mic 3 күн бұрын
I think this thing is awesome. I went to look up the price and I was like "ahhhhh". The video was worth watching, as usual, just to see your handsome face ❤
@victorblanco8570
@victorblanco8570 7 күн бұрын
It would be interesting to increase the font size on the screen, since there are very small words that are difficult to read. Thank you
@nikconomos
@nikconomos 8 күн бұрын
All I want to know is if there is a sustain button? Or at the very least if external sustain buttons work like on an external keyboard that has a sustain button. That is one major thing I miss with the op-1 field which is annoying not having. Multi sampling is another huge thing missing on the op-1 field so was really hoping this may have both, looks like the multi sampler is there but not the sustain?
@tColorsinspacerecordings
@tColorsinspacerecordings 7 күн бұрын
Only hold button
@PeterCooperUK
@PeterCooperUK 8 күн бұрын
Fascinating stuff and fun results. This is exactly the sort of thing, though, that I'd rather watch someone else use than own myself. I just know I'd stare at it and be like.. what do I do with this 😂
@googlepigs7027
@googlepigs7027 8 күн бұрын
Here's a suggestion : You should always start these intro's with a mind blowing demo of just what this thing can do, before all the incipient, boring, nerd *words.* Take our heads off with some heavy playing before all the boring technical specifics.
@tiresfx198
@tiresfx198 6 күн бұрын
The greatest video I have ever seen.
@Llouddd
@Llouddd 4 күн бұрын
🤦
@AliTanUcer
@AliTanUcer 4 күн бұрын
did i mentioned, it is pragmatic! 😆
@gregoryhutto1963
@gregoryhutto1963 7 күн бұрын
Having no track effect, 1 LFO, and limited synth engines and boring effects. So close but I can’t. If they added cool effects like Mother, another LFO, a track effect and the two sends, it would be the perfect TE device, and I’d happily pay $2300 for it. I think they can do it, via updates. But I doubt they will.
@ManCalledMif
@ManCalledMif 7 күн бұрын
1:26:00 hidden pitch bend is sick
@robertjamesonmusic
@robertjamesonmusic 6 күн бұрын
Yea it works well, too! Super fun
@jeitoots
@jeitoots 7 күн бұрын
Love it. It’s super well built and feels very responsive to use. Just sell a another kidney 😂
@ManCalledMif
@ManCalledMif 7 күн бұрын
1:05:48 faster encoder changes (option) would closely match sliders
@MR-ov6iv
@MR-ov6iv 8 күн бұрын
Can't stop playing with it. For every snarky comment they're sending out a case of these. Can't wait to hear the sales numbers but I'm sure they sold over 5k of these already. easy.
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 8 күн бұрын
You sound like a cult member
@MR-ov6iv
@MR-ov6iv 7 күн бұрын
@MyNameJeff.. A **happy** member
@robertjamesonmusic
@robertjamesonmusic 7 күн бұрын
@@MyNameJeff..you sound like a d bag
@amirmotlagh
@amirmotlagh 3 күн бұрын
this was fkin great! ✨
@matthewwebb1111
@matthewwebb1111 8 күн бұрын
"Can you brain Oz?" If it can do then maybe £2k doesn't seem a bad price after all...
@vereyafrequency
@vereyafrequency 4 күн бұрын
The Grey Knob Sessions
@mdeerocks6792
@mdeerocks6792 7 күн бұрын
Great machine. I'm having a lot of fun with mine (thanks, Andertons). Please improve the preset/sample management system; it's pretty barebones and cumbersome to work with.
@MODUS_OP
@MODUS_OP 57 минут бұрын
So does the Maestro stay in the key/scale of the Brain?
@shogunai
@shogunai 8 күн бұрын
I've been a massive critic of TE in the past, and frankly I stand by all that I've said about them and their previous products. But this thing is different. I feel like they have finally made this one do enough really useful stuff to justify that price tag. It's still wild, but you can really write a piece of high quality music entirely on the go now, in a genuinely portable format. The only things that come close to this are trackers, and I just dont like that workflow. This thing looks like it will be as at home on a train journey as it would be in a studio. And I've never been a critic of their aesthetics, and this doesnt disappoint there either. GG Teenage Engineering, you finally snagged me lol 👍
@bwest6275
@bwest6275 8 күн бұрын
I feel you on this. I keep hearing the M8 is a good alternative, but for me, I don't want to "program" music, such as a tracker workflow.
@robertjamesonmusic
@robertjamesonmusic 7 күн бұрын
I love that they always have a microphone on the device to record vocals or guitar
@samprock
@samprock 8 күн бұрын
Oops. I pressed order button! ⚫⏯⏺▪◾◼⬛◼◾▪✴🖤
@supernatural802
@supernatural802 7 күн бұрын
am i reading that right...2hr review with jack?? has xmas come early?
@katebosone9805
@katebosone9805 8 күн бұрын
Finally architects can make music
@quimbas
@quimbas 8 күн бұрын
honest question - with the form factor so similar to the Field, could the firmware have been updated on the Field with many of the features included here? I know the Field doesn't have midi (btw, why not include midi on the field?), but it seems like the sequencer and mixing features included in the XY could be an update for the field? Again, I'm not being snarky, I really like TE.
@neill6239
@neill6239 8 күн бұрын
The field has Bluetooth LE midi. You can link it to a MacBook if you want to convert to a hardware midi. Agree that it should do midi more broadly but it is definitely possible to make it work.
@captainlovett4724
@captainlovett4724 7 күн бұрын
As was stated in the intro to this video, OP-1f and XY have two separate philosophies of making music. I think their core features can’t be swapped on either device, like the XY sequencer on 1f (1f hardware doesn’t even really allow for this), but certainly some small features can be crossed over. I personally would like at least a basic tape looper and fm radio on my XY, but again those features make 1f its own thing.
@ManCalledMif
@ManCalledMif 7 күн бұрын
This is fantastic technology. Any plans for a midi controller version of this without synth engines? Could bring the cost down significantly
@captainlovett4724
@captainlovett4724 7 күн бұрын
What would be the point of that? There are loads of midi controllers, and I’m pretty sure this can already act as a midi controller as is.. it would only make sense if they made a software specifically for this as a midi controller, and then you’d lose the portable powerhouse that it is currently.
@jono_co
@jono_co 7 күн бұрын
An absolute joy to watch this
@Tripwelleverday
@Tripwelleverday 7 күн бұрын
This makes almost every single synth company look dumb af
@robertjamesonmusic
@robertjamesonmusic 6 күн бұрын
😂
@willgavillan
@willgavillan 5 күн бұрын
Vocoder on this would be sick
@deyoungstar
@deyoungstar 8 күн бұрын
This is 🔥. This is easily the best demo of this sexy thing I’ve seen yet. I can’t wait to get my hands on one
@Klaas-g3t
@Klaas-g3t 4 күн бұрын
I would say that you can do most of this with Roland's MC-707. However, the MC-707 is not suitable as a travel device and does not have a built-in speaker.
@olivergroves2007
@olivergroves2007 2 күн бұрын
I agree! It is amazing how something this small can basically compete with bigger units
@skoolafish
@skoolafish 8 күн бұрын
so step components work across scenes and songs. good to know
@jean-guillotin
@jean-guillotin 6 күн бұрын
Sh!t . I want one !
@Rustik1722
@Rustik1722 2 күн бұрын
LED or OLED?
@pedrogomis
@pedrogomis 8 күн бұрын
Best opxy demo
@briannhinton
@briannhinton 8 күн бұрын
I hope they add a Comb filter.
@briannhinton
@briannhinton 7 күн бұрын
And album record.
@Eetherway
@Eetherway 3 күн бұрын
Anyone who finishes this video will buy an OP-XY
@owenplotkin7046
@owenplotkin7046 6 күн бұрын
vocal fry not included 😂
@pshearduk
@pshearduk 8 күн бұрын
Can it play Doom?
@morrillkevin
@morrillkevin 8 күн бұрын
He mentions is actually a color LCD, so seems very likely.
@LukeLine
@LukeLine 7 күн бұрын
If this was £899-1k it would forever be sold out
@robertjamesonmusic
@robertjamesonmusic 6 күн бұрын
Yea if Ferraris were $8,000 they’d be forever sold out
@Llouddd
@Llouddd 4 күн бұрын
akai mpc key 37 : 800 dollars
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