Roland Jupiter XM - Vintage Inspired Synthesis!

[@jonkelly5246]

Amazing, just bought one. I've had vintage synths and they've always been headaches to deal with. Glad roland put this out

[@digitaldiezel5870]

YES YES YES, and double YES!!! I love it. Price is irrelevant, anything under 2K I can accomplish. Its simply a matter of waiting long enough to save the money. Form factor is perfect.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

@To Pi Yeah you could do that...I know a guy that makes fire beats and used to make his living on beats with only software. You don't NEED any of this stuff. That being said, for me, this is about having fun and playing with cool toys. I may never make a dime from my music, but my gear and recordings are my therapy. No point to working everyday if I get nothing for it.

[@SRDhain]

Some of these sounds go as far back as the jv range. I had a jv1080 for years, and maxed it out with various expansion boards, including the excellent Vintage Synths board, which I'd buy again and put in a JD990 module some years later. I used those extensively for t.v. stuff. In essence, they've packed all of those sounds in and almost quadrupled the synthesis capabilities. They've also made it hands on & put in a useful arpeggiator/ sequencer. The only let down is the size of the keyboard, which is why the price feels a little bit high; we've got an abundance of choice at that price point for all manner of hard and software synth combos, so you end up comparing and contrasting easily. Overall, I love the sounds and the intelligent arp is good to get those creative juices flowing. If the jupiter X came out first or the street price on this was a tad lower, it would be a no brainer.

[@neonether]

I'm already seeing the price on these second hand start to drop a bit. I just picked up the xm for $1100 second hand, basically still new fortunately. For that price I can roll with the little crap keyboard since it's set up on midi anyway. I can't get over how great some of these sounds are. Turns out I'm digging it wayyy more than I expected to! If we're being real, I definitely left a few trash-talking comments on some of the early vids of the xm, basically saying how it's nothing new from Roland. Truth is if you have a system 8 or something that came out recently, this unit is probably 90% the same. Still, the quality of the sounds and sheer breadth of sounds loaded into this thing is worth it to me.

[@sierrawhiskey5144]

I'll be honest, the fact it has the JX8p vs the JX3p is a huge reason why I want this board. Cause I can run it like a Super JX with modern hardware.

[@neonether]

I'm in love with the JX-8P sounds on this badboy. It makes me want to buy an original if it weren't so huge and I had the space...also the programmer for said vintage synth now costs just as much or more than the synth in many cases!

[@dirkkeersmaekers4343]

Old stuff and new stuff(fantom sounds) together with expansions,the X with the retro look of the Jupiter 8,wow,and it sounds great.I want one!

[@Pulse2AM]

Honey, we're selling the kids! This is what I want in a synth something that inspires my song writing, time to save up.

[@papankunci]

the full size 61 keys would be a MONSTER SYNTH!

[@martinstubs6203]

It's coming.

[@dwightshockley8137]

Just get a cheapo key controller maybe ?

[@martinstubs6203]

@@dwightshockley8137 That's what I'm going to do. My Jupiter Xm is due tomorrow. I'm so excited!

[@MUFSpoiler]

X

[@timbrandon1466]

The guy on the right has never heard of the XV5080.. What stone has he been living under....

[@KOISANX]

Tim Brandon thought this exactly 😂

[@tuneunleashed]

Tim Brandon ever heard of it either lol

[@floridahiker1503]

Andy from Roland is really informative. I'm glad you guys didn't rush through the review like Sonic State did. Good job and great sounding synth.

[@charleshenri5847]

Great synth in fact! But the video doesn't say that the sound cuts off when changing the arpeggio's mode... So sad..

[@TheMadisonHang]

what a beautiful little synth it claims so much

[@colekeircom]

Best demo I've seen so far , in my opinion .

[@fakshen1973]

Hey... a plug-in that comes with its own hardware. Awesome...

[@digitaldiezel5870]

fakshen1973 ...lol “hardware plug-ins”, God thought it was a good idea too! 🤣

[@KostasC]

Hahaha awesome man! 😂

[@TommyVarekai]

at least you dont have to pay for a subscription like roland cloud are doing, id rather this last me a life time than pay $12,000 for a virtual synth for the next 30-40 years

[@neonether]

@@TommyVarekai I actually bought the ultimate roland cloud plan before I ended up buying this. Would have rather gone straight to this in hindsight, since the cloud is super clunky, very difficult to save and retrieve patches, and eats CPU like no one's business. I much prefer having a wealth of the sounds I use on dedicated DSP to free up the cpu to handle the processing. Hopefully Roland Cloud gets a major upgrade, because right now they're (purposely?) making the hardware a clear winner.

[@turfer176]

looks cool and sounds great

[@HappyOrganMan]

Great demo. Thanks so much.

[@Ulti]

The newer Roland emulations of their iconic synths are seriously legit, but it drives me insane that they can't put it in a decent package. The System-8 was already criticized for its price, and now they go MORE expensive instead of filling the gap between that and the Boutiques. I do think the Boutiques are more fairly priced for what you get, but 4-voice poly can get fucked to begin with.

[@benbowland]

I mean, I think this is pretty fairly priced. It's a million synths in one, near unlimited polyphony, 5 parts so you can make some massive stacks, artificial intelligence arpeggiator, cord-optional so you can take it wherever, etc. Roland can be hit or miss but I think this is a definite hit. (And I don't know what you mean by "MORE expensive", since the Jupiter-XM is the same price as the System-8.)

[@digitaldiezel5870]

This is one of the best packages Roland has released in a synth imo. The Jupiter X and Jupiter Xm combination is the only reason I’ll likely be purchasing another Roland synth since 2003. To be perfectly fair though I kept and used my Fantom-S for 12 years. If it were in a package like the Xm I would still have it.

[@JJamVegas]

Half the cost of a Fantom 6 and awesome portability. I'd say this is a bargain.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

@@JJamVegas 100% Agree!

[@lordbachus]

Love the arps.. and the sound... but wish you could ripp off the keyboard like with the boutique range.. so typically Roland, where they show great understanding with one range of products.. they totlly ignore that in another range of products..

[@georgegeorgio1751]

Give me a keyboard every time over a module.

[@troypol343]

So between the Bigger X and the Xm only difference is the size? The Jupiter-X may have a bit more controls and 61 full-size keys but the innards are the exact same?

[@tonyjones6256]

Troy Pollaris that seems to be the case. I don’t get the difference in price

[@colekeircom]

I opened two web pages side by side comparing them and indeed everything seems the same , except as you say the keys , controls and power [the XM can use batteries ]. I don't think that I missed anything , even the Bigger X has the same speakers, which I hadn't realised . Take care , Kieron

[@benbowland]

Looks like it. You can buy the XM and hook it up to an 88-key controller for less than buying the X lol

[@jimlutz1290]

Why was not the Roland D50 left out of the "Synth All Star Team" ? - Yes, I want one. Com on Santa Baby, 🎄🎄🎄.

[@beesting6135]

Portable and blue tooth with speakers I'm sold

[@MarcWeertsMusic]

Awesome demo!

[@corypalmer5495]

*Guy on the right tries to touch the keyboard* Guy on the left: "GET YOUR FILTHY HANDS OFF MY KEYBOARD!!!!"

[@eonsfollower]

Roland founder Mr. Kakehashi always said, “Never chase a ghost”, but clearly they aren't letting it go.

[@iqi616]

I'd want to try one before buying. What makes me nervous is the Boutique JP-08 is utterly devoid of mojo and a pain to create decent original sounds on (I'm severely allergic to presets).

[@TheMadisonHang]

Your right, we need at least 3 hands on this at once to unlock it's full potential.

[@emilyschmanks]

1.5k for mini keys lol great job roland

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Emily Banks I’ll take these slim keys 🎹! I’m paying for sounds! 🎶

[@emilyschmanks]

@@digitaldiezel5870 ok lol

[@SPAZZOID100]

Digital Diezel the sounds suck.

[@nezkeys79]

Kurzweil p3a6 has the best strings ive ever heard. Id imagine the forte/artemis have improved sounds tho. The synths on this are the best ive ever heard tho

[@georgegeorgio1751]

Yeah I like Kurzweil gear but they need to move beyond V.A.S.T. which is getting a bit old but at least they have finally included Yamaha FM compatibility in some of their new and past synths, but I'd really like to see them bring out an analog & digital hybrid.

[@djpikul]

Sadly the price is to high. For me 1000 bucks would be the limit for this mini keys digital synth. beside from this aspect Roland did a great job here. a ribbon controller like the asm hydrasynth has, would have been a killer feature here.

[@BigBadWolf..............]

There is so much going for it but the price will ultimately limit its popularity in today’s market. Considering the minilogue xd, hydrasynth, and argon8 coming out at around the same time they actually might have made more money if they sold them at 1100 or 1000. Economies of scale would probably have sold them twice as many units. If they want to maximize profit then a module at 1100 would be a effective way to capitalize on the current market.

[@floridahiker1503]

If you had a synth with a minilogue, hydrasynth and argon in one it still wouldn't have as many internal synths as a jupiter xm so its like buying 6 synths in one.

[@BigBadWolf..............]

@@floridahiker1503 Yes it's a serious piece of gear. The hydra is more flexible in terms of synthesis. The minilogue is analog and knob per function. I'm leaning towards the argon 8 because the sound is incredible.I think the Jupiter may be the most powerful and maybe the prettiest but it's also the most expensive. As someone with a degree in economics and 20 years in the music industry, I think economies of scale would have made roland more money. I don't think its vastly overpriced but it is cost prohibitive

[@floridahiker1503]

@@BigBadWolf.............. . Roland also knows their customers have gear acquisition syndrome and won't wait for cheaper zen core models or modules. It will be interesting to see their next zen core releases.

[@BigBadWolf..............]

@@floridahiker1503 I'll be surprised if they release a module but it would attract new customers

[@TheArtisticFlavor]

I agree, to me the Jupiter xm is a $1000 synth. In regards to the other synths you mentioned, I am very interested in the Argon8 and hydrasynth. For what they are offering for their prospective price points, things are looking up. And the fact that you can get both the hydrasynth desktop, and the Argon8 for the price of this Jupiter xm is verying interesting, especially since those two are actually bringing something new to the table. Also, the Jupiter xm looks like it is horrible to program. It looks like a fine preset machine, but the menu diving for editing/creating sounds ruins it for me.

[@brohoop]

Can I patch this into a bigger keyboard?

[@thegroove2000]

It does sound nice,

[@Seekthetruth3000]

Nice demo. Should I buy this or a Fantom?😏😏😏😏😏😏

[@fossilcrab]

Danton. No brained for me

[@fossilcrab]

Fantom I mean

[@giovannidebiase6850]

Does it have normal arps and can you program your own sequences and drums?

[@HotStrange]

Giovanni Debiase 6:40

[@JGW-im3nf]

@@HotStrange he didn't answer the question. All he said you can edit a little bit. Whatever that means....

[@benbowland]

Worst case you pair it with an external sequencer, not the end of the world.

[@giovannidebiase6850]

@@benbowland it is when you have no idea how to use cv cc etc and things aren't syncing properly. it's like a secret society! I haven't got all day to try working it all out and it isn't much fun either.

[@Mylder1]

I am also looking for an answer to this but noone gives a decent one. I would really like it to have sequencer capabilites like the JD-Xi I have. But I am afraid it does not :-(

[@XxChrisxXBedofRazors]

I think Roland should've named the synth after one of Jupiter's moons 🤔

[@schragemusik]

Too many folk simply wouldn't get it :-)

[@ndboxoffrogs]

The Roland Titan does sound pretty good to be honest

[@gpr4eva]

Roland should hire you!

[@sonicneutronic]

Nah, The Roland Browning, after Roland in Grange Hill (the Erkan Mustafa vehicle) would have been better.

[@robertfischer1895]

Roland Ganymede! I love it.

[@555ontario]

Will the Jupiter X have all the features (synth engines and what not) that the Jupiter XM has? Roland has a way of dividing up their sounds and features amongst a multitude of boards lol. One should be able to get everything that this thing has (almost everything) only with full size keys and obviously more controls and what not but all the sounds should be there as this things sounds great. :)

[@555ontario]

Awesome, and thank you for your response.

[@deyoungstar]

Desktop Jupiter XM module, please!

[@inventanew]

oh yeah with the osmose

[@elle.w.p]

Some nice sounds etc but the price is insane for a software based synth likely utilizing the same source code of other Roland products.

[@strongchord4384]

Worth waiting for the module version which should replace the Integra?

[@neonether]

I'm still on the look out for news of a modular version! They keyboard is terrible haha! And right now it's basically just set up through midi in my studio so that I can have 5 octaves when recording with it. If a modular does come out, I'll surely be chucking this one in exchange.

[@paulhorsley8922]

Multi timbral? .

[@JJamVegas]

5 parts

[@oncleness7450]

Hello. Great video !!!!!! Can you help me I can not find rhythm sections ?? Like the TR707 etc ....

[@KunchangLeeMusic]

Just got one love it

[@corypalmer5495]

This is awesome! Can you layer 4 different synth sounds using 4 different sound engines?

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Cory Palmer Yup 👍🏾

[@corypalmer5495]

@@digitaldiezel5870Thank ya! Hmm that may have sold it for me.

[@crybo]

What was the point on putting keys on this? For that price I want a full key bed!

[@TeleporterM11]

Does it have CV in and out

[@neonether]

I just got a pretty good deal on a new Prophet 6. For the price Roland is asking for the X, it just seems way over priced. Is the Zen-core really THAT much better than the tech in the System 8? Because without discussion of the engine, on paper it seems identical for most practical purposes...I still like the idea of having these classics in an updated system and in a layout different than the awkward (to me) system-8. But I'll continue to wait at this price. Maybe by this time next year market forces will bring down the price to where it should be.

[@jonahwaltonmusic]

Just got one of these babies! Anyone have a clue on how to sync the lfo rate to tempo?

[@FunkTree]

18:00 two hands two personalities:)

[@TeleporterM11]

Does this synth have CV ins and outs

[@issiewizzie]

Can the synth send The Appegiator midi out

[@gpr4eva]

I think this should of at least had an analog filter. If not on the Xm definitely on the X. Also, all of this should also be inside of that new $4000 Fantom.

[@richardalldredge9129]

Black Moses Beats agree... that arpeggiator should’ve been in the Fantom

[@gjc82071]

"all of this should also be inside of that new $4000 Fantom." Exactly. That's sort of what Korg did with the Kronos. It's got a PolysixEX Legacy Analog Collection & MS20EX Legacy Analog Collection engines, as well as AL-1 Analog Synthesizer (analog modeling engine) & MOD-7 (FM synthesis, can load DX7 SYsEx patches) + strng modeling, (sample based) acoustic & electric pianos, & organs engines, and sampled based HD-1 engine. It also has Wave Sequencing (like the Wave Station) and Wave Shaping (from the O1/W) What peeves me about Roland is that it seems they haven't created any new samples in like 15 years. This Jupiter X, as well as the Jupiter 80, Integra 7, and FA-## all use sounds from the SRX/SR-JV boards, and XV5080. (which were awesome in the late 1990s-early 2000s, but are ridiculously outdated now) The most interesting thing I've seen on the Fantom is that instead of using sampled pianos, it uses a scaled down lite version of the Roland V-Piano. (but I haven't heard a demo of it yet)

[@neonether]

Analog filters would have been more in the spirit of the Jupiter's era. In my mind, it doesn't necessarily have to be called a Jupiter anything...its basically a souped up system 8 with all the vintage glory accurately nailed and available with a just a few button pushes. Having the Jupiter theme is a cool touch in my home studio, but honestly with what it delivers I'd still have grabbed regardless of it's name and theme- of course providing it meets the same level of work flow functionality delivered here.

[@kenneth1688]

Brill sounds

[@jimburke6573]

Question about this type of synth, does it have banks of “ instruments 🎺 “ like a montage/modx does that are named like piano,guitar, strings and so on ? Or is it all creative synth sounds and not a specific instrument sound?

[@gjc82071]

I believe it has both? *Classic analog to vintage digital. And beyond* JUPITER-X is equipped with our latest sound engine, capable of morphing into legendary synths from our long history of genre-defining sounds. It’s so flexible that it can reproduce our highly sought-after analog classics like the JUPITER-8, JUNO-106, and SH-101, as well as digital machines like the vintage XV-5080 and modern RD pianos. You also get the many Roland drum machines that are the foundation of electronic and dance music like the TR-808, TR-909, CR-78, and more. It’s like a studio full of vintage gear, with modern capabilities and a deep synth engine so you can explore unmapped sonic territory. www.roland.com/global/promos/jupiter-x/?

[@Max10_B]

Wow of it had d50 it would be worth the thousand for me. I want those digital sounds too as much as the analog. Overkill on the analog. They start to sound similar.

[@sbdemos]

The good news is you can get a used V-Synth for $700, built better, is almost 20 years old, full sized keys, yet has similar sounds and a dead-on D-50 emulation.

[@KNHSynths]

It sounds good but I can't understand how Roland became a software company. All products are emulations working on "engines" (what a beautiful name for just a piece of software). So you don't have the feeling to buy a synth but just a software. And now they are stacking "engines" in one box to create a "new" product. I feel sad because Roland was the maker of so much incredible synths and now, engineers and PCB have been replaced by developers... I have nothing against developers, I'm a developer myself... but when I play on a synth I don't want to feel like at my office... Please Roland, stop this "all digital" logic and make again some great synths. Since many years now you're just living on the old stock. Soon you will have no more to offer. Another XXX synths with the "engine" of the last engine-based XX itself including the "engine" of the Jupiter XM including "engines" of preceding computers (It's hard for me to call this a synth, sorry) ? Please, you made so great synths. I'm sure you can do it again.

[@tyranic1]

Well said, but it still a good synth, more so for new customers. The main thing for me is the filters, does it come alive when you tweak the cutoff and resonance. The majority of cases with digital synths they don't except from my experience the Hydrasynth. There's a vibe you get from great analogue that is hard to replicate digitally, and there's some digital sounds you can't do in analogue. We need both in our studio's. I have a JDXA and Minilogue XD and a Virus C, the best of both worlds. Love the I- arp for sparking idea's though.

[@KNHSynths]

@@tyranic1 I agree, we need both type of synthesis, analog and digital. Digital by nature can be a good VST or a "fake" hardware synth, it is almost the same thing, but analog need analog machines (hardware). Both sounds are interesting and have their place in a mix. But Roland needs to create new analog synths. They are going the reverse way of every makers... even a pure software company like Arturia produce now analog hardware machines ! And Roland, the maker of the System 700, System 100, System 100m, Jupiter, Juno, 808, 909, TB303 ... perhaps the brand who made the greatest number of legend machines in the whole world ! Even more than Sequential, Oberheim or Moog ! This brand is turning its back on what did their name just to do what all others are doing, VST and boxed VST they call "digital synth". Computer with a software. I'm sad, really. Either they lose all their R&D capacity to create analog synth and it's the end of this maker, or they are just taking the wrong way. Sad in both cases.

[@amrsalahmahmoud3034]

they are creating CRAPS to only make MONEY

[@KNHSynths]

@@oOFTJOo I think the world of electronic sound synthesis has evolved but only in the little circle of euroracks. There you can find thousands of new ideas, new ways to do things. But this is not the same has the synth world we are speaking here. And you're right, in 40 years no iconic new synth. Perhaps are we lacking a bit of time to judge the present... A painter was saying "a good painter is a dead one" meaning only dead painters are bankable. I think it is the same for synths. Perhaps in 40 years they will not understand how we missed the "iconic" Prophet Rev 2, the Moog One or the Schmidt...

[@robertfischer1895]

@@oOFTJOo It seems to me that the best ideas in synthesizer design have already been implemented. Yes, there are great or new or rare synthesis methods out there, like additive, but when you factor in cost, ease of use, and sound design possibilities, it seems like the best ideas are already here. Synthesists are used to anticipating the next big thing, but I think that we, like pianists or guitarists, are entering an era where we need to shift our focus from the next big thing to what we can do with the tried-and-tested techniques that are already here. Rather than waiting for innovations and valuing what's new, I think we're moving into a time when we need to get more out of what we have and value what's good.

[@rdoetjes]

I too wanted to dislike it. And I own a System8 but I didn’t see any use to revisit old stuff again. But I’m getting excited. Except for the price, that’s quite steep. I’d settled for 999 but I’d rather have an analogue Korg or Prophet for that kind of money. Especially since I already have the JD-XA and System8 their digital and plug out goodness.

[@gjc82071]

I have a DSI/Sequential Prophet 6, 12, REV2, OB6, and Korg Prologue. I'm just letting you know in case you want to check out some of my demos for comparisons. (because you said "’I'd rather have an analogue Korg or Prophet for that kind of money")

[@issiewizzie]

Roland may have finally cracked it

[@dankefurnichts]

yea the synth i waited for the last 20 years or so :D

[@tuneunleashed]

Issie wizzie Might aswell get it as soon as possible you know how they discontinue their products so quickly

[@D.Z.A.-kp8lf]

Who wants to hate a classic synthesizer??? 😳😳😳

[@TokyoScarab]

A great way to start your review is to say you wanted to hate the product :)

[@HotStrange]

IMO it’s $500 too much. At $999 I’d be extremely tempted. I’m gonna wait until next year and hope they drop the price.

[@designhappens8444]

very cool review Ben. I wish you 'd do more and more of these kind of reviews cause I can not stand the other guy... :-)

[@TheMrFinalizer]

Roland Cloud - same sound at 20 usd per month with D50 powering by Apogee brilliant sound card. So, tell me why I should buy JXm? For collecting dust? Im sure JX8P and Juno 60 soon at Roland Cloud. Now modern analogs are trendy. With VA Roland is couple years behind. But I hope when modern analog trends will ends Roland will release some modern analog :)

[@carteral-harlem3042]

You don't have to buy it and nobody have to convince you to do so. This product is not for you.

[@TheMrFinalizer]

Carter al-Harlem yes, you’re right. But I need so badly modern analog from Roland because I love this company, so it is only one way to put criticism to their existing products. Hope they reading that :)

[@georgegeorgio1751]

@@TheMrFinalizer If you want analog there are plenty choices you don't HAVE to buy Roland.

[@goodboid]

I like everything about this but the price at $1500. Maybe Roland will release a module at a lower price point at around a 1000 bucks. I'd be all over that.

[@steveturner1815]

ROLAND please make this as a module with NO keys and please remove the speakers. Then I will buy one.

[@GreenHoleSun]

exactly the opposite for me. Speakers, batteries and keys make this little monster portable and autonomous, like a kind of powerful musical sketchbook in which you can write down your ideas on the fly...actually this thing is near to my dream machine.

[@dwightshockley8137]

@@GreenHoleSun this is one of the things that sold me on it. At first, i was like, meh...speakers- but the more I thought about it, the more the idea of being able to take this thing elsewhere started to appeal to me. But to each their own. I kinda am looking forward to it.

[@adamjerzyrodewald5752]

Roland ist Like old grandpa telling the Same Stories You don't want to hear anymore....but He think they are great.....R.I.P

[@JAVIERMARTINEZ-tb9lg]

2 lfos?

[@Syntox]

Sounds great but the price point is nuts for what it is.

[@savanaviolenta]

1000€ is max I can pay for this, but I am not getting this, have enough synths. JU06A and Pro 1 are my last additions and finish.

[@xisotopex]

I love that steppy filter sweep.

[@joecool8674]

roland ruies !

[@WarrenPostma]

As a first synth for a pro-gigging musician it's a non starter, with what, 25 mini keys at $1500 price? As a sound engine with bonus keys, maybe it's a pro-gigging musician product. I expect this will start to sell well when it takes a 40% price cut. The balanced outputs are the sign this is not meant to be a Synth Hobby product. It's intended for a pro gigging market. I wonder why why they dropped the "plugout" (add more synths later) aspect of their products in this segment. This is a move backwards from System 8, if you ask me.

[@GreenHoleSun]

3 octaves is no 25 keys...it' 37

[@avrilcadabra]

It looks cool, but considering it costs more than a Roland FA-08 but has a way less multi timbrality, no sequencer and no sampling those jupiter sounds would want to sound pretty spectacular compared to the SN / XV5080 PCM in the FA

[@justaname1862]

Awsome Synth!!!!...but im just Soooooo OVER all these "Analogue Synths" ....Give me a New Digital Synth anyday! Most analogue Synths end up in some kids bedroom somewhere, sitting with their friends giggling at the Helicopter noise they just dialed up.

[@gyangarciaavila9416]

LOL, I would not say most, but yeah, I have seen that so many times =D

[@sublibrarian]

No user manual yet?

[@rdoetjes]

Does roland even do proper user manuals? That has been my biggest complaint for my System 8 a d JD-XA.

[@Paul_Y_T]

Raymond Doetjes the jd-xa user manual is crappy, but the parameter guide covers everything in great detail if you put the time in to read it.

[@yeahrightbear8883]

It would only be worth the price if it was full size.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Full size boards for 1500 are generally not Flagship boards. The only one I can think of is a DM12, which is less. This is like a small format Flagship synth.

[@TheArtisticFlavor]

Agreed, $1500 for mini keys is the weakest link here.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

TheArtisticFlavor You’ll have to cough up $2500 for those. I’m good with the slim keys because I have less talent than you. Lol

[@eladreltuc]

This or Korg Minolouge XD?

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Dale Cutler This .... easy. I love the XD too...but the Jupiter Xm wins IMO, unless a person doesn’t have the money then maybe they settle for the Korg. But if I have the ability, I get this.

[@louisrmusic]

I would buy the ASM Hydrasynth instead...

[@digitaldiezel5870]

My previous comment was wrong! I should have pointed out that this synth is more comparable to the Prolouge , not the Minilouge. That’s why its more expensive. This IS A JUPITER X, in a smaller package 📦.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Orlando Pergamo I agree. But thats the beautiful thing I don’t need the same sound as analog. I already have a Neutron and a Tempest which is a hybrid. My next synth needs to be flexible and cover all the bases. That will allow me to get more specialized synths in the future. For now I need flagship sounds in a small package for my meager home studio.

[@illustriouschin]

ugh mini keys. Bendy plastic or actual hinges this time?

[@HotStrange]

Gordon Chin I think they’re more like the slim keys on Korgs stuff. So not too much smaller than actual keys.

[@henryhill92]

I've played it, the keys actually reminded me of the Arturia Keystep which isn't a bad thing. They feel much better than the horrendous JD-Xi keys

[@TommyVarekai]

Really cool! Want to buy it. Price tag isn’t cool, wont buy it, not worth saving up for.

[@scavenom2008]

This might be a good gift for a 5 year old

[@giannagiavelli5098]

give me 48 keys and half the price. and a real sequencer. it's more of a 800 synth in todays market not a 1500 synth. give me a proper piano, b3 and vox. and 8 drawbars. then its a proper instrument not a toy.

[@RNoldFCK]

Boy it’s expensive

[@SPAZZOID100]

Not really.

[@troypol343]

I tried the Xm. The Filters sound great but the sound of the models behave like previous VAs from Roland especially if they have longer releases and playing repeated notes or chords you get a phasing or flanging effect like you can on any previous VA like the JP-8000, V-Synth, SH-201 and even the Sample playback Gaia SH-01 and Jupiter-80/50. I owned them all at one point. Too bad these do not offer one ACB model section. ACB found in Boutiques and System-8 is better at emulating the classic Roland Analogs. Too bad.

[@funkmachine6420]

I won't go so far as to say it sounds bad. But it doesn't sound particularly analog to me, which is what it seems to want to be. Personally I'd say less is more, rather see a single use synth well done than a master of none kind of situation.

[@daniX12345]

Amazon Roland jdxi: 500.... Roland Jupiter xm: 1500 ! what am I paying with those 1000 ?

[@GreenHoleSun]

You are paying for the new sound engines, real portability (speakers and battery powered), new intelligent arpeggiator and sequencer and an operating system which is meant to be upgraded with new functions in the future since this is essentially a computer with DSP. And better built quality overall...I suppose

[@dwightshockley8137]

I am selling my JD-Xi....

[@daniX12345]

GreenHoleSun too expensive. I think that I am also paying the name "jupiter"

[@daniX12345]

Dwight Shockley I sold mine, but I won't buy the jupiter xm

[@djjuno106]

way over priced and its got mini keys !!! they should have put this into a rackmounted case ..this is nothing more than a boutique and a jdxi mixed together.

[@HotStrange]

djjuno106 It’s definitely overpriced but still seems awesome. At $999 I’d honestly be all over it.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Uhh! You mean “nothing more than”...!FIVE! “boutiques and a jdxi”. With the potential to have more added later.

[@georgegeorgio1751]

Just wait a while they'll come down just like the system 8 & Prologue, this is way better than a 4 voice Boutique it has humongous polyphony 256 note to be exact how much would 64 Boutiques cost? that's how many you'd need to buy to have an equivalent amount of polyphony.

[@SPAZZOID100]

George Georgio polyphony is not that important.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

@@SPAZZOID100 But it sounds fantastic too so... I don't see any weakness in this set of new Jupiters (X/Xm) so far.

[@TheArtisticFlavor]

I feel like they are charging too much. If it was under $1000 I would be interested, but definitely not at its current price.

[@TheCleansingx]

Abuse of the Jupiter name goes continues..

[@RayyMusik]

Jupiter: Roman god => planet => analog synth => VA synth. The last step seems to be less “abuse” to me than the previous ones.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Rayy‘s Musikladen 💯 lol

[@germanshepherdlover2613]

Why make such a great synth and ruin it with smaller keys? At a full sized price I'd expect full sized keys WTF? Everything else is great, even has built in speakers!

[@sK3LeTvM1]

The guy with the TB303 T-shirt wasn't even born when it came out. No wonder these kids think it's a must have... lol

[@richardwalley2862]

I like it....I see the price.....I don’t like it

[@jacobbrown1690]

i will stick with my jupiter 80 thank you

[@georgegeorgio1751]

Not the same , they are getting better with every new model they release

[@tuneunleashed]

George Georgio False not true the Jupiter 80 is waaaaay more advanced and deeper than the Roland Jupiter X. Newer doesn’t mean better lol in the synth world. But I’m getting the X though got a montage 8

[@georgegeorgio1751]

@@tuneunleashed Well the Jup 80 was a much more expensive model at the time , I played the Jup 50 and wasn't impressed maybe the 80 has a bit more under the hood, and we haven't had anyone delve into the Jup X yet I think once clever programmers start doing patches for it you'll see it will be at least on par or better.

[@tuneunleashed]

George Georgio Yes it does lol overall the Jupiter 80 is the best synth and most powerful synth in the Roland Jupiter HISTORY! It’s better than the Roland Jupiter 8 and better than the X. People don’t like the Jupiter 80 because it wasn’t analog which personally I don’t even care. I like both the key is to make music.

[@tuneunleashed]

But since I’ve got a Montage 8 there is no use for a Jupiter 80 so therefore why not get a Jupiter X it’s better suited if you want a secondary board. It’s like the V-Synth, Fa-06 and all the 61 keys are meant for. Secondary boards and so as the Jupiter 80 even though it’s 76 keys good secondary board aswell

[@trusto1016]

Poop oh dear I want this

[@RichardDenRooyen1973]

sofar,... for me its a keyboard (with styles, drums etc etc)... with some handon control.... but... no synth the Jupiter name worthy

[@tomwinter5029]

Looks like keanu reeves..point

[@SPAZZOID100]

Another rehash.

[@charliedronkers]

plays shitsound: "hehe amazing"

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

This or a Nord A1?

[@SPAZZOID100]

????

[@sircliff323]

i'll give you £400 for this digital best of

[@HotStrange]

Sir Cliff it’s clearly not aimed at you then.

[@SPAZZOID100]

Haut Strange it’s crap.

[@gregoryscott3858]

Meh, the mids are scooped and the top end is dull, it's got none of the buzz, crackle or bite that help a synth sit inside (or cut thru) a mix. Imho, for these kinds of classic, bread and butter Roland-y sounds, the Deepmind is a vastly sweeter-sounding and more flexible instrument.

[@techinfusions]

@ $1500 you think "a good soft synth can do all of this for a fraction of the price" @$499 everyone would just buy one, come on Behringer whats next from you guys?

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

You could have a look at the Jupiter 50 used.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

They already have one its the DM12. It can make sounds close enough to a Juno and a Jupiter. You may like it.

[@techinfusions]

@@digitaldiezel5870 So why is the Jupiter XM $1500?

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Tech Infusion The Dm12 has 12 voices and maybe 2 parts using a split. It has lexicon fx and integrates well with your PC. It gets the job done. The Xm has 256 voices and has 5 parts (4 synth and 1 rhythm). The Xm also has an intelligent Arp and 5 classic synth engines that can be layered to make all new patches. Roland may also include more models in a future update. It’s also battery powered, has its own speakers, and Bluetooth midi. The sound & FX are the same as what’s found in the full sized Jupiter and the new Fantom workstation. Finally, a major plus for me is that it’s NOT a full sized synth. Personally I would not pay $1500 or more for a Behringer product but i would pay that much for a Roland product. I just haven’t done so since 2003. Imo Roland has taken steps to change that. The product is perfect for me but may not be perfect for all, which is why they have the JUPITER X coming next year. They have covered their bases imo. I love the Prophet X but it’s too rich for my blood, i still give that synth all the props in the world, its close to perfect, and its NOT too expensive, I just can’t afford it.

[@JJamVegas]

This is five classics synths in one. Compared to $499 each, you are getting a bargain here.

[@SynthsandSounds]

Every gear company in 2019: We're doing vintage-style analog synthesis Roland and Yamaha: Yeah we got it but screw it. our things are inspired by it but we are way cooler than those analog nerds so let's just pretend out synths work like that

[@iqi616]

I'd want to get my hands on one before considering this synth - I'm leery because the JP-08 was sonically a big disappointment (only the Emu Proteus/1 disappointed me more). I don't mind the tiny faders but the JP-08 sounds like a cartoon of an analogue synth. Like the difference between a digital piano and the real thing - good enough for a laugh but doesn't fool anyone who can hear the difference.

[@SPAZZOID100]

iqi616 bullshit

[@33ordie]

How normal is it to have two people on a single synthesizer, especially this baby size 3 octave piece of toy....