Waldorf STVC vs Behringer VC340

[@HotStrange]

This is a hard choice for me. I love the possibilities of the Waldorf. Combining all those various sounds and then vocoding them sounds like lots of fun. And the ethereal, cold, digital flavor mixed with classic string sounds is right up my alley. On the other hand, the Behringer sounds so warm and lush in comparison. 2 totally different flavors of a similar meal. Can’t go wrong either way, IMO. I think the Waldorf is more of a complete instrument while the Behringer is a very good one/two trick pony.

[@confezionatan]

Oh come on! Why do I love so much string synthesisers? First the STVC and then the Behringer Vocoder make me wanna abandon any analog and digital synth to dedicate my life to string synths. BTW this short comparisons between similar synths are amazingly useful!

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

Yeah they sound awesome don't they? I'm trying my best to leave them alone now but I keep seeing and hearing these new ones and thinking "Just one more," lol

[@WARDISWARD]

You do know that the waldorf stvc is digital , right ?

[@KaceyRepublic]

Likewise. I am already at the point of trying to justify using the VC340 as my main controller keyboard.

[@humanchannel7825]

@Rhizosphere also four octaves

[@FilipeSalgueiroo]

Love the Vocoder from the Behringer!

[@ProckGnosis]

Good comparison...have to admit they both caught my interest...

[@45rpm.]

I insta-bought a Streichfett when it first came out so now I HAVE to get the Behringer. (I will try running the Streichfett through the behringer vocoder)

[@Deeplycloseted435]

Vocode the vocoder? How did it go?

[@45rpm.]

@@Deeplycloseted435 The Streighfett is only a string machine - it has no vocoder. I intended putting the various string sounds from the Streighfett into the "ext synth in" of the VC340 and finding the best one for vocoding. I have bought the VC340 since my original comment but I had forgotten I ever wrote it (and your reply reminded me). So I will try the experiment this weekend hopefully.

[@prometheusrising8767]

@@45rpm. did you try it?

[@45rpm.]

@@prometheusrising8767 I have had the Streighfett and Behringer VC340 connected together in various ways for a few days now. Using the Streighfett going into the Synthesizer input of the VC340 gives more varied vocoder sounds as you would expect but I also tried the Streighfett voice sounds going into the VC340 microphone input but they are not very clear voices so it was interesting but a bit disappointing. So I made a recording of the VC340 voice sounds and played the recording into the VC340 mic input and this was quite good for making the vocoded choir type sound. It would be good if the VC340 had the option to connect it this way internally. I am thinking of making a video while I have all the right equipment out and ready to go. It might take me a few weeks to make it and edit it though.

[@playonkorg]

Here in de production studio we have them both for a PinkFloyd/Earth&Fire and some dance orders, and to be honest, Waldorf's synthese is finer to use in production. About the vocoder, I have no experiance

[@MarshalArnold]

The jam at the end was awesome! I think I like the Vocoder sound on the STVC, it's is super clean. Better for my personal applications. Thanks for the side by side!

[@organaut]

One thing I will mention is that the Behringer retriggers when the keys are played again and similar to how the Solina behaves. This in fairness is true to the original VP. The Waldorf plays more like a conventional synth or like with the Crumar performer , multiman etc. without the retrigger.

[@deauvillevrienden]

So the STVC is kind of the Streichfett with vocoder function? hence the ST from STreichfett and the VC from VoCoder :-))

[@jimmyfigueras4476]

I love them both, they're great and different in their own right. I love the old grainy sound from the vc340 which is reminiscent of a mellotron as well as the crisp and bright sound from the stvc. I didn't know Taron Egerton also loved synths and he's gained some weight, lol.

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

Thank you for not being too offended by my comment on the previous Waldorf STVC video and showcasing the Waldorf STVC vs the Behringer VC340 as I requested. I'm giving this a watch and listen right now. Thanks :-)

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

Behringer wins hands down. It's a replica of the Roland VP330 and it does it impeccably. Price is great too. The Waldorf sounds good but for me I go for the vintage sound that gives me nostalgia for past music I've heard using the VP330. Sorry Waldorf

[@HotStrange]

Luke Kage it’s a hard choice for me. I like the modern and ethereal take that the Waldorf has and all the variety of sounds you can combine, but the Behringer sounds very close to that vintage string creaminess. I would choose the Waldorf personally but only by a very thin margin.

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

@@HotStrange I already have 2 originals from the 70's already so that's why the Behringer appeals to me but I do understand if you don't already have vintage stringers the Waldorf does cover a lot of scope. For me the Behringer fills in a missing gap in my sonic selection

[@troublesomecorsair]

The question is can the aftertouch do pitch mod for the solo section and not for the string section of the STVC.

[@joshtiel2980]

Great question! Any luck on finding an answer?

[@troublesomecorsair]

@@joshtiel2980 No luck. I suppose the answer lies in the manual . Maybe someone else can chime in. My synth adventures have veered away from the STVC.

[@stefpir]

I will have a look

[@thejollyjoker187]

On the vocoder side of things (not the strings & sounds) both machines can't hold a candle in front of Roland's VP-330, which is about 15 years older.

[@wolfgangmerx]

Of course they get nerdy and play Genesis. I like it!

[@ajdoyle9559]

I like the Waldorf Stvc vocoder, I don't get why you were talking negatively about it , it sounds cool and kind of like Daft Punk to me.

[@MakingMadBeats]

VC340 kills it, straight up 🙌! Fiddely, widdelie 😆👌

[@homeirotheveryfatmanwhoisa8270]

If you’re just looking for a vocoder/string-synth that sounds straight out of the 70s, go for the behringer. But if you want broader sound capabilities and a much more modernized vocoder sound, the waldorf it is.

[@brendanward3258]

'Interest Free Credit' for Christmas Number 1!

[@puppetsnob]

To me, THE vocoder sound is from the 70s and 80s. Nearly all the hit songs and TV shows I know that used a vocoder at all, used the Roland VC330 family (although there's a great video on the complex setup used for the original Cylon voices, featuring an ARP 2500 as the carrier etc.) So all these other attempts at vocoding from Korg and Waldorf always miss the mark.

[@EdEditz]

Yep, I've seen those vids too and they used the EMS1000 vocoder for the Cylons which is a 16 band vocoder. The Roland is a 10 band so not so useful to reproduce the Cylon sound or Mr Blue Sky (EMS2000) but the VC340 still has that amazing vintage vocoder sound used in so many other songs and I wouldn't be without mine. ^___^

[@texacomann]

Streichfett +Behringer Vocoder = dream Combi

[@deauvillevrienden]

I have a Streichfett and a VC340.... great !

[@texacomann]

@@deauvillevrienden the two complement each other perfectly!

[@texacomann]

@Rhizosphere hi rizoshphere, all the combis are interesting. I have tried so many combis, and yes, I mosttime have most of the fun with 3 Keyboards in Front of me and one more 90 degree on the left side, gives me Lots of fun. Hardware Synthesizers rules! (Vst is just a nice to have....) But I like synths from the 80ties 90ties and just a few newer ones.... 🤣👍

[@adamjerzyrodewald5752]

5:20 Yes buy a Behringer

[@LouisLinggandtheBombs]

soooooooo different. I didn't even understand the comparison.

[@brentvalleywhag3477]

Louis Lingg and the Bombs They did a horrible job a demonstrating where they can be quite similar. The moment the presenter struck the first chord on the Waldorf I thought, ok they’re not even trying here

[@Wagoo]

Jack still wears his cap even when taking a shower..

[@jokchung]

Jack - you are a legend!

[@jackcross1580]

watcher of the skies, nice

[@tristantheuerkorn777]

Yes, that was nice indeed. Didn't expect that. Thumbs up for them guys!

[@snoolee7950]

@ 01:20

[@lescobrandon8045]

I can't believe the Behringer is fatter than the Waldorf. It's amazing what fruit you can get when old companies slip on their patents lapse.

[@leftpeg777]

Would a roland jdxi not be better.. ..even price wise?

[@akesvensson3778]

Poetic! Loved that 70's mellotron sound!

[@1Live2Love3Thrive]

One thing they all need to fix is the ridiculously small microphone necks. Waldorf did better in that regard.

[@Dolores5000]

Nice❤

[@texacomann]

STVC can't Beat the Streichfett or Behringers Vocoder.

[@texacomann]

@Rhizosphere Its just a matter of taste. The STVC is more flexible, but the Behringer gives you only a few sounds, but you will love them really all. I dont like synths with 999 Sounds, but you really love just 7 or 8 of them and the rest is crap..... keep on searching.... I like the reduced version and concentrate to the most important : making music, not tweaking or searching just for sounds.... Musical output is the goal (just my opinion)

[@nobbystyles4807]

tuff choice. i like the strings on the waldorf but the vocoder on the beri..... fuvk balls. maybe ill get a streichfett and the beri.

[@ДмитрийКужеев]

STVC divine. Love it

[@kierenmoore3236]

Nah. It sounds shite.

[@wadesconstruction7013]

is it raining in Guildford, is that why you wear hats indoors?

[@badwolf489]

Very VinTAge

[@progcoffeetabletalk3518]

Genesis: Watcher of the Skies 1:26

[@cresshead]

behringer kicks waldorfs ass on strings, human voice and vocoder

[@playonkorg]

nope

[@cresshead]

@@playonkorg vintage string and vox sounds - behringer new sounds - waldorf vocodaer legitability - behringer

[@playonkorg]

@@cresshead I have them both here in de studio for production and for me it's equal wich brand I use, I do the orders quicker with Waldorf, more commen pads and easyer to mix and also better reverb. The vocoder....I dont know

[@MaleInMarchMusic]

So so

[@gergokovacs3332]

Would be very interesting to hear woth a good mic, not with these crappy ones...

[@Esrom_music]

Copy that. Very few extremely usable sounds vs a whole lot of unusable sounds.

[@blakeyonthebuses]

Thanks for that presentation which was shit! It didn't want me want to buy anything.

[@nisios]

Waldorf sounds crap altogether. The only thing for it is flexibility, but you get to be flexible between bad and worst only as a sting/vocoder machine.

[@goldstream5147]

I was about to buy the behringer until I watched this video. Why not just get musicians who know how to play to review this.

[@fjfrancois]

2 different synths theres no VS, because they really don't compete to each other.

[@livefromthepsy-op1170]

VERDICT: if you want to do cheesy covers of 70s/80s sci-fi movie sounds tracks BEHRINGER If you want to move boldly into the future of sound creation and make the sound people will be chasing in 30 years WALDORF

[@jimmyrade7815]

K so Behringer

[@livefromthepsy-op1170]

@@jimmyrade7815 😂😂😂

[@dmomcilovic9185]

You are wrong democracy starts next week for us in the UK

[@New_Zealand_Music]

Why so little editability and string sounds and variations on the behringer that's almost a preset synth, I know it doesn't do vocoding but for the money the streichfett has way more string options I know it's digital but still. A bit disappointed really. Hey beardy man is that your orgasm or I need to take a crap face at the end of your video, lol, no offence great facial expressions, I do the same thing

[@ge0rgeharris218]

Listen to Daniel Fisher from Sweetwater Music! He gave a great demonstration! And it sounded better than Jack! And I'm not putting jack down!