Nord Piano 5 vs Nord Grand vs Nord Stage 3 - John Mayer Inspired Shootout!

[@MisterAJ1982]

Is this the start of Sound Like… on keys? Because I am HERE for that 🙌

[@ajenaepdf]

!! 🤲🏽

[@DavidBennettPiano]

That settles it! I'm getting the Grand! Thanks for the video 😊😊

[@Aerospace_Education]

I currently have a Nord Grand. Played off an on for a few years and got the Nord because starting to get more serious. I went last week to look at acoustic uprights and frankly none of them felt or sounded as good as the Nord. Love it!

[@toby7647]

If you were looking in the same price range, I would personally choose a good digital/stage piano over a cheap upright. Decent feeling uprights brand new will have you looking at the 10k price point

[@torbenanschau6641]

@@toby7647 Thing is, no matter how good the upright is - it will never sound as good as one of the grands which are in the Nord ;-) BUT one of the things I love about the Nord libraries: their uprights are really good as well, so they already can beat quite some real ones.

[@FakeGlasses]

Gotta love the glance to camera at 5:15

[@JordanBrennan]

love it jack, you're so talented mate - appreciate this a lot

[@swancakes]

Sold me on the Stage 3 (and I already own it lol). Great patch, Jack!

[@jsnadrian]

that opening Nord grand riff was so simple but so beautiful. ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO GET ME TO PART WITH 5K FOR THIS THING?!

[@timhalstead9790]

Luckily mi e was $1100 off at Sweetwater Music here in the US, got it for $4100

[@geoffwebber8272]

One of your finest Jack...Would love a series where you do some 'sounds like' with tuition on how to set up the Stage, and perhaps you could throw in some anecotes on touring the world as you go.. PS great editing by Tay Tay as well...

[@sparechange714]

The Grand is not that heavy! I pack it up and haul it to band practice every week. Only 5-ish pounds heavier than the NP4, plus you finally get great action paired with the amazing Nord Piano library. I ended up going with the Grand after several years with the Nord Piano line and will probably never look back. It is a bit bulky and awkward, but most definitely gig-able.

[@toby7647]

I got the grand as a replacement for my schimmel upright. I have no plans on using it to gig but since I'm going off to university soon, I need something which is portable and I just love what the Nord grand offers

[@harald144]

Im planning getting it for rehearsal for my concerts, at home. Good to hear that you can also take it on gigs which I also want to do.

[@themaninthesuitcase]

Not going to lie, the piano version on the grand was utterly amazing.

[@JamesCorbettMusic5000]

Yeah it’s amazing, love taking it to jazz gigs. Actually feels like you’re playing an instrument and not a digital reproduction

[@dennispena5496]

I wonder why Nord's memory upgrades are slow. You can get a 32 gb stick for $9 at Target. I wish Nord would up the memory so I can fit everyting from their piano library. :)

[@andersjeppsson8499]

I have the Grand and it is simply stunning.. To me the action is just superior, and having the tilted controls lend yourself to very immediate easy to see sculpting without having to lean over the board. And it gives a great retro EP look compared to the traditional flat looking planks. For jazz, or blues playing it rocks. You wouldn't see Norah Jones or similar with a NP5...

[@cooltrades7469]

2 layers per section:-).Beats retrolook/sculpting/ blablaetc :-).Grown up thinking.Function.Cool.It will come in time, don't worry.

[@jacobmorgenstein6788]

Norah Jones played a Nord Stage 3 on top of the Empire Dtate Building

[@mail4schibilski]

1/2 hour well spent. Well done, Jack - again...

[@PianoManChuck]

Awesome video, Jack!! As usual.

[@dianejones7308]

Has no one ever commented on your hands? They're beautiful!

[@rcjp]

wow, best stage 3 demo I've seen, such a great presenter, thanks!

[@levirphillips]

Jack, I just want your best tips on playing dynamically please! Because that was masterful. Cheers for the comparison, very helpful!

[@jackprice7828]

Love the bass line on those chords.

[@xapianoman]

I just got a great deal on a Piano 5, but when you added in that organ sound it kind of made me wish I had the Stage 3!

[@robertmichalscheck3072]

Glad your covering this new Nord piano 5,was inquiring yesterday about these very comparisons,thx jack.

[@billyruss]

I think I'm right in saying that the Stage is the only model in the Nord range to feature aftertouch. Why would you want this in a piano/organ instrument, I hear you ask? I use it to control the rotor speed on the organ sounds whilst I've got my left hand on another keyboard and my right foot on the organ swell pedal. Works a treat, and is the one reason I wouldn't change to any of the other formats.

[@tuneunleashed]

It is also the only model with a pitch bend now that’s disrespectful lol

[@lrblouie]

Totally awesome as always!!!

[@tuneunleashed]

Just saying guys every single Nord since the 2008 Nord Stage EX till current Gen share the exact same sound library so sonically it won’t sound different it’s the on board features that show their differences.

[@kenreisman8641]

Love your videos Jack! I recently picked up the Grand over the CP88, Nord Piano 4 and Stage 3 mainly because of the wonderful action and feel. The keys feel substantial and realistic to touch, yet still quite fast.

[@Ryan-pj5cx]

excellent summary ! I'm new to all of this and hearing you work through all of this helps understand the differences in Stage and Piano thanks !!

[@HyperSuperBothi]

Piano player here. The stage3 showcase at the and made me want to play in a cover band.

[@SuneSchack]

Amazing playing/sounds, Jack. Love it! Have the NS3 HP76. Best gigging board EVER! You're the MAN. Huge inspiration! Cheers, Sune from Denmark!

[@jayswitzer9871]

i just bought a used stage 3 and slowly discovering it every time I play. There are some weird things you can get into with the effects control panel, that is probably the most wicked thing you can put in a synth, 2 chorus, delay/tap, flange and echo.. I'd love to see you go bhalls deep into the effects panels and multilayers. (edit-gave you a thumbs up for the demo of the stage 3, layers and wheel assignment very good, i'm going to follow it step by step whoo hooo !!!

[@bharathj63]

That was a beautiful rendition of a beautiful track!

[@jackduxburymusic]

Thanks so much for the kind words Bharath 🙏🏻

[@leminrecords]

Can you review the Kawai VPC1 ? I’d like to see your reaction to the action on that.

[@1975Stevo]

Hi Jack, great video as always. H - Hammer Action, P - Portable - 76 Key.

[@xiaoxia5]

the Nord Grand sounds great, but it's beastly looking.

[@mariojosepr]

It looks awful. Lol

[@Echochamber79]

@@mariojosepr doesn't look awful at all.

[@mariojosepr]

@@Echochamber79 Agree to disagree!

[@sprazer]

it's the reason I wanna get nord piano instead of the grand, I wish they made it look just like the nord piano.

[@MaybeBeni]

Okay so I’m a little new to this music tech stuff. Do I need an audio interface for Nord keyboards to play live? I thought I just hook the cables up to a keyboard amp and go from there. A bit confused. Thanks.

[@EvalianMassey]

No interface needed untill you want to record yourself

[@user-ql1pc7pi9x]

I'd love to learn that, Jack. Top man!

[@jackduxburymusic]

Cheers C2 - thanks for stopping by ✊

[@RRW276]

Oh wow, the piano tunes at first were giving me Elton John vibes. Anyway, well done, Jack, you nailed the synth tone perfectly.

[@wj7375]

Thanks Jack! Would you know (or anyone here reading) if the Nord piano monitors will work with the Grand & or the Piano 5?

[@barneyrubble152]

Excellent vid Jack. Any chance of a review of keyboard amplification? I play my NS3 direct through a pair of powered Yamaha PA speakers at gigs but the sound quality (especially piano) is not great. Maybe better positioning or use of a mixer would help but it could be these are not the ideal speakers.

[@Echochamber79]

Both are good ideas but in my experience, you need to spend some serious money on monitor speakers to get a good sound. Look at Focal, especially the Focal Shape 65's, you won't be disappointed.

[@richardyoung641]

beautiful grand sound and I'm supposed to be bias..I'm a piano tuner

[@everyeyewillseehim]

love the Nord 3 with the wheel effect!

[@timhalstead9790]

I bought the Stage 3, 88 key, awesome, highly recommend, I also have the Kawai stage piano MP7SE, love the action on both, the nord was twice the price tho

[@joezazasin7]

sheesh! Nord Grand is madness ! 🔥👌

[@АлександрЛапченко-н4е]

Hi gents. I know well this NOTD GRAND. It is good and sounds better than other NOTD instruments. But, he has a weak spot - there the central switch can sometimes switch on its own during the game .. And I preferred to buy a more reliable KURZWEIL in quality etc.

[@mystscot9814]

Jack's back!!

[@germanshepherdlover2613]

I've only played the Nord Grand and I love the Kawai action. Haven't been able to find a Piano 5 to play so don't know what the action is like on the Piano 5. I would love to know what the Piano 5 action is like. I love how fast and light the Grand's Kawai action is, hopefully the Piano 5 is similar. I have the Nord Stage 3 HP76 (same as the one in this video) it's very nice for ballad type piano playing but for quick stuff and glissandos it's a bit sluggish for me. I am going to sell (or swap) the stage 3 and probably get the Nord piano 5 88.

[@kobib6641]

Your videos are amazing, they are always answering my questions that come across, cause nord got billion of products and in case I can't determine the difference I will propbably choose other brand, it's just way easier than trying to get the info alone.... tnx

[@reltius2993]

Comparing the Grand to an upright like the similarly priced Roland LX708 upright, would anything be considered lacking in the Grand that the upright offers? Better sound or action or anything?

[@kkusek77]

Please update this comparison with the Nord Stage 4.

[@benjaminsmith9943]

It's pretty apparent that you are a gigging musician first - it was clear that you were very interested in how you can modify and layer sounds. I gig, but it's secondary for me; I wanted a nearly-no-compromise piano first, that I could gig comfortably with, and eventually went for the Piano 5, which I think you undersold relative to the Grand. Could you have played the same piano piece that you opened with on the Piano 5 with similar settings? The biggest difference I heard almost immediately was really simple: Reverb hall effect was on the Grand but not the P5 and that gives the sound a buttery, elegant feel. I almost went for the Stage 3, but a recent experience at the local Guitar Center helped me see I made the right choice: they had both side-by-side (S3, P5) and I played a piece I'd been practicing. I think it's the triple sensor, but I REALLY noticed that the S3 just didn't have the "punch" of the P5 - the range of volume on a key strike from very quiet to very loud just was not there on the Stage 3 but the Piano 5 brought it out beautifully and expressively. I

[@a28951616]

Is it possible to have a compare video between Nord Stage 3 and Yamaha YC?

[@MadunicMusic]

Great video! I recently got the Stage 3 Compact 73 and love it! I went to look up your IG account because I'd love to have the patch you created, but it appears it no longer exists? ☹️

[@torbenanschau6641]

If I had one wish for a product, it would be a desktop version of the stage 3. So you could play it from any Midikeyboard you like but you get all the sound and the direct access.

[@rfsantos021]

I have a NS3 HP76 and I would like to know if there is a difference in the action of the keys compared to the NS3 88, sorry for my English !

[@trackerbuckmann1627]

I only need one kidney, right?

[@danitinoco]

Hey buddy, thanks a lot for your video! amazing. Helps a lot of Nord users. QUESTION FOR THE NORD EXPERTS: Is it possible a patch created in Nord Stage 3 be imported to Nord Piano 5?? please help.

[@juanmanueltellechea4981]

Hey dude, did you get an answer about importing patches from the Stage 3? Also wanted to ask you since Jack says in the video that theres no organ in the Nord Piano 5, could we add them from the Nord patches cloud? I want to buy one of those, but the Electro Hp 73 is also seducing me since it has a lot of organs and 4 less kgs... Greetings

[@roylewisjr.2703]

Love your videos!!!! Never played a Nord! I use Roland RD2000. I’m a Gospel Pianist sounds I use mostly are piano, Hammond, strings, and brass… Can you do another shootout and go into details on memory, how many sounds can be stored and your thoughts on which… Grand Stage vs Piano 5…. Don’t have any stores in my area that carry any keyboards in my area that is more than $600 USD

[@coscrupi]

Anderton's Nord, more Nords & the most Nordiers ever!

[@ptgnt]

Seems like you had to crank the volume near max for the piano sound? I wouldn't have thought you'd take it beyond half.

[@Justin_collier]

hey so if i may add, i used a nord stage 2 at my church, and i hooked it into my laptop and used midi and had the alicia’s keys plugin with it, and when you compare the alicia’s keys plugin to the sound of the nord i felt that i enjoyed using alicia’s keys just as much as i did using the factory patch on the nord, what i look for on a keyboard sound is a bright resonance in the highs and good compression can you do a video on alicia’s keys vs nord???

[@margix1172]

Everything is great..the instruments..the hi-fi equipment....the player.....but where the vinyl are gone?

[@benjaminpeternorris]

Great comparison video highlighting the differences. I've dabbled with Nords when I've seen them in music stores because they always look so cool, but I've been instantly turned off by the keyboard action. I'm a bit of a piano purist, so the Nord Grand it is for me. The Nord Stage 3 has so many options that I'd spend forever tweaking the sounds rather than playing it!!

[@ScottWarner86]

Thanks dude, I am a classical pianist and wanted to know about action. And kawaii is actually my favorite action. Ty

[@brunogrgic9322]

Hello! Do you know when Nord Stage 4 will be released?

[@dominicshaw4140]

You play the piano so beautifully bruv.... Such a joy to hear x let's make some house music😊❤️

[@LaserGryph]

Does the Grand's action have heft to it, or is it light like a synth?

[@AntonioNogSilva]

I have a stage 3 compact and in the process to choose nord grand or piano 5 to add to stage. Any advice to which to choose as I’m really stuck between those two?

[@AdrianoStAubyn64]

I don't understand why a house piano like the Grand doesn't have speakers.

[@tinab3001]

aw hell yeah 7:18

[@88omarz]

Would love some pad samples and stuff

[@yxcv789]

Does the piano on the Compact with waterfall sounds different, due to the action?

[@chickenlickin3820]

its great you'll like it

[@waynewright2107]

I just got one a few weeks ago and I love it it’s my favorite keyboard

[@tuneunleashed]

They can’t sound different because they all have the same sound samples the only difference are the on board features that’s literally it.

[@JamesCorbettMusic5000]

You can’t really play anything accurately, it’s not dynamic enough. but it’s good enough in a band mix (I have the grand and s3 compact)

[@BirdseyeVu]

Yes, it does, Ralf. It is most flexible to have a waterfall action for synth/organ and fully weighted action for piano related instruments.

[@cwiseman2]

Greg Phillingaines is John's keyboardist right now.

[@KyleDavisMusic]

He says that in the video.

[@ClaudiaPatriciaM]

Came for the review, stayed for his playing.

[@kenhogan4381]

I have a Nord Grand a bit disappointed only 2 years old now and has developed a weird clanging sound on the middle keys when played with anything other than a soft touch sent a support request to Nord maybe I will try again any others know this problem?

[@exolay7355]

Can’t u apply different sound by plugging in the keyboard as midi to music program like Logic Pro?

[@toby7647]

Yes I believe so because there is midi input

[@aight365]

Why couldn't they just put a pitch bend and nod wheel on??

[@RICHIE11420]

Stage 3 😍 great Layering of sounds … how does it stand up to Yamaha YC?

[@CraigThePoet]

I was so torn between the YC and Stage 3 for like 3 months straight lol. I ended up going with the Stage 3 compact because I was really interested in the organ section and the synth engine. Of course you can get organ and synth on YC, but not at that same caliber with the Nord imo. If I understand correctly, you can get up to 4 layers with YC, but 6 layers with the Stage 3.

[@vernacular1483]

I have both and they’re complimentary, each having their own strengths and weaknesses. Together, its a synergistic combo, absolutely amazing

[@cleartrueblue]

Serious question: can someone explain why Nords are (quite successfully) priced at 1.5x to 2X of comparable keyboards from other manufacturers?

[@grahamcmusic]

You are a very musical player

[@neveralonebytimhedges1840]

I thought that was a good video actually demonstrating how to change sounds I thought it might have been a bit fuddy-duddy in the way that he was trying to get it so exact but at least you explained what he was doing so people could see which was very interesting indeed in the way that you did it So I would just say get somewhere near the sound and even make your own sound that was close to it and I had a bit of you into it that’s what I would’ve been doing here I’m not trying to get everything so precise but I’m sure that you will agree with me that that’s an alternative choice that we all should have Keyboard players and musicians don’t wanna be put into a box if they want to hear the record then put the bloody record on that’s what I say Who knows maybe you’ll come up with a better sound in the record and I always had that approach otherwise how can anybody be creative and how could things be progressive if we keep following the bloody record all the time Well I think some people need their handheld and told exactly what to do to get required sounds and that’s just the way it is and I think that’s what you was trying to demonstrate for which was those type of people which is OK I suppose But anyway I did Subscribe as it was interesting the way that you showed everything and explained everything which was really the best part of the show because people need to know what they’re getting and why they are getting it and the differences between the keyboards which is something people need to be shown if they don’t know these keyboard Even though these keyboards are good I still see that they are well over priced If only they would just be a bit more competitive they would’ve sold quite a lot more keyboards two musicians that to be quite honest with you don’t really have a lot of cash these days are going to the economic downturn which is affected just about everybody So I think Nordic need to be a little bit more sensitive and cut 20% off the price at least to make things within reach of what people can afford or just simply keep them on the shelves for the few that have got the cash that’s my opinion but I think it’s quite a good point And I think it should be made on one of these shows to point out what I just said and probably give the company a nudge to think about reducing this ridiculous prices

[@Suavissimo]

"Sometimes people who are really into [keyboard] actions are a different type of player to me... In all honesty, I don't care. It's a bit like this table-everyone comments on this table being wobbly... I don't even notice." So these reviews are for players who care only about keyboards' sounds and features, not about how they feel or respond-because that's like caring if a table is wobbly. Okay, got it.

[@annother3350]

thats giant!

[@earlwebb9032]

You did exactly what stopped me getting a Nord...accidentally hit the controls while playing

[@ChemIngs90]

Sounds more like QUEEN - I want to break free sounding hehe

[@wolfgangt.4926]

Only for your Info: There is non exist a Nord Piano 5 with 76 keys, there exist only a version with 73 keys 😉

[@moogman5]

The Nord Grand was the only stage type EP in the store that didn't feel like a toy when trying out the action...The action on the Nord Piano and Nord Stage are totally inferior to the action on the Grand. I haven't tried the Kawai MPs, but the sample quality of the Nord's are superior to the Kawai's imo.

[@troublesomecorsair]

The Grand prevented me from getting her number. I regret my purchase.

[@robertmichalscheck3072]

Why?,sounds like you described a bitch.

[@James-cn9no]

Train of thought going in 6 directions at once. The action of the Piano 5 is like...?

[@stefandziallas1639]

...awesome, like Grand & Stage! All awesome, but different.

[@christophertown8843]

I've played both several times, compared one against the other just to be sure and to be honest, the Nord Grand Stage keybed is horrible: it is wobbly, noisy as hell and simply unplayable for me. I am classically trained and, despite my leanings towards all things blues and jazz nowadays, I do prefer a great keyboard without compromise. The Nord Grand was a big disappointment in that regard. The Nord Piano 5 is far superior, only outmatched by the RD 2000 and maybe the Kawai MP11.

[@fivetexasacres1422]

@@christophertown8843 i have the Kawai MP11SE and Nord Piano 5. Both are awesome, but thinking I will sell the Nord. The action of the MP11SE is just so much better. Really is like playing a real acoustic piano.

[@sharingmatters]

Now I understand where the high price of the Nords is from. Production in Sweden, not China.

[@erichnolan43]

I gave you a like just for the chicks comment. Excellent playing.

[@JayTheLane]

Jack, my wife has asked again if you have a girlfriend? I don't quite know where to put myself ;)

[@chickenlickin3820]

he bats for the other side..

[@cansticksandjettkids9431]

Loving your vids. Your personal kind energy is captured by video quite well. I had an A1 for awhile and am now tasked with getting a keyboard for the future CanSticks show to be played with Drumsticks using a MalletKat. Initially was thinking A1 but figured why go with entry NORD. I know Nord's awesome. Is your personal opinion that the Stage3 is worth the extra bucks over the Wave 2. I am ready to pull the trigger on a Nord and get some numbers from chicks, lol.

[@jackduxburymusic]

🤣 Thanks for the kind words CanSticks. Go with your gut man, I think it’s worth going above the A1 but the big difference I would say will be wether or not you fancy a big Ol’ 88 Key Keybed and “Full On” Organ control - if not then go for the Wave my G ✊

[@cansticksandjettkids9431]

@@jackduxburymusic Yup agreed. I pulled the trigger on the 88 Stage 3, expecting it's arrival at our local music store any minute. So stoked!!! I may end up downgrading to Wave2 but, thanks in part to learning from your vids, I learned that the Stage 3's "two-keyboard" architecture probably fits better with the MalletKat's "two controllers" than the Wave2. I think the ability to access those two Nord keyboards from the two MalletKat controllers will make that combo pretty sweet. The MalletKat is a powerhouse of a controller, the percussion-controller equivalent of the NORD.

[@cansticksandjettkids9431]

@@jackduxburymusic thanks Jack. I did end up getting the Nord Stage 3 88. Glad I did because the organ layer, it turns out, adds a lot to some of the patches I play. Also, making the cartoon sounds that I needed (a submarine echoing ping and a gliding fog-horn) were so quick to create it was amazing most of which I learned from your vids.

[@TrummerMav]

Couldn’t find your insta…

[@jackduxburymusic]

Hi Marvin 👋 I couldn’t stand it on there 🤣 Thanks so much for watching and checking out the vid mate 🔥

[@TrummerMav]

Thanks for making those videos, good nerd stuff from a real musicians perspective 👍🏻 Enjoying it a lot! On last thing: I give you a key instead of falcon…let’s say..Gbmaj Lydian 😂😂😂 What ever take care 👍🏻

[@simonjacksonmbemusic]

@@jackduxburymusicgreat work pal

[@jasonruff1270]

nord stage 3 seems more versatile to me, if i want a real grand piano sound i'll just by an actual grand piano

[@DaraM73]

The biggest failing of the Grand is the utterly shit switchgear rubber contact buttons which activate on around 1.5mm of movement. Panel lock required for everything. Total joke. No one at Nord could be arsed to product test? It took me 3 minutes to discover that the company was primarily a compression software house, and an instrument manufacturer second. Go buy a Kawai folks, paint it red if ya must….but realise that an mp7se is half the price, from which the Grand uses its keybed. (And the Grand action is closer to a Rhodes than an actual piano)

[@markaprill6501]

Jack is struggling to explain the difference in these products because they are very close to the same thing.

[@Delectatio]

"Getting numbers from chicks", ha-ha:)) You'd better be vocalist, bro:))

[@i_rock_49]

I just don't understand what people like about Nord instruments Translation.the sound is not up to date. Best greetings from Germany 

[@gregsullivan7408]

Is this the sound you're shooting for? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGexlmiai6mZgq8 I wouldn't call that sound a "piano" at all - it's a synth sound. (and your version sounds more complex than the sound in that video)

[@brymills]

This “John Mayer” song, who ever he is, sounds like a complete rip off of a Mary Spender original song…..

[@AndyThomasStaff]

1:17 is hilarious, the bad jump from low to high velocity notes that Nord is famously buggy for. Do you like playing notes at full velocity when you didn't mean to? Then get a Nord!

[@CANTORJORGEPIRES]

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