Andrea Dworkin - Feminist Fury Personified

Andrea Dworkin - Feminist Fury Personified
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[@gander4872]

As a child I used to read her columns in The Guardian, it was very helpful for deciphering my mother and sister's hatred for males.

[@HammerdownProtocol]

Same here.

[@slong5931]

I have a similar situation. As I have had more conversions with my sister over the years and she has gradually become more outspoken about her opinions of men, even saying that any scene in media that includes sex is only there to appeal to “disgusting incels and stupid teenage boys”. I care about my sister but I have no idea how to deal with her way of thinking. Have you figured out anything that helps with things like this?

[@rickjensen2717]

Poor you! They clearly both need need anti-delusion therapy treatment!

[@jamesespinosa690]

@@slong5931 Unfortunately mate, you can't really help these people. The best you can do is plant the seeds of information she will need to one day grow out of her hatred. And then you keep her at arms length. Like a drug addict, or depressed person. You can't help them if they don't want the help.

[@janicefiamengo993]

@@slong5931 Aww, that's awful. For your own sanity and well being, I think I would tell her that her anti-male venom is toxic and that you'll not tolerate it any longer. If she can't control herself, she'll have to get used to seeing you a lot less often (if you feel able to be that stern). It is essentially verbal abuse, in my opinion. Come join us at XYCrew if you feel like it.

[@tagoldich]

Toward women she directs compassion sans accountability; toward men she directs accountability sans compassion.

[@janicefiamengo993]

You said it, Tim. I always think of your work.

[@duhduh666]

@@janicefiamengo993 was Ms. Dworkin’s compassion towards all women or only those agreeable to her. I am particularly focused on their anti porn and anti prejudice stance. I recall the late Candida Royalle feminist adult actress and filmmaker asserting her association with the feminist movement had to end because of her chosen profession

[@HammerdownProtocol]

My mum had some of her grimoires on the bookshelf of my childhood home. Birds of a feather, fly together, I guess. If she could catch the merest glimpse of how spectacularly her attempts at indoctrination had backfired, she'd fall off her broomstick.

[@janicefiamengo993]

Grimoires--thank you for introducing me to a fascinating word!

[@HammerdownProtocol]

@@janicefiamengo993 I knew those hours reading M.R. James's ghost stories were worth it.

[@Xbalanque84]

God save your mum.

[@boatfaceslim9005]

😂

[@darktenor4967]

Male survivor of female sexual abuse here. Because my abuse was focused around public sexual denigration and humiliation by groups of girls, Up until I met my wife I was so genophobic, I could not wear short trousers in summer, or even a shirt with anything but shoulder length sleeves. I believed that all sexual relations involved one person taking pleasure at the expense of another, and actively hated my own libido. When I met my lady in 2015 (the lady I'm now married to), the thing that killed my genophobia dead, was my learning that I could give! pleasure, as well as receive, and that sex was not an exclusive practice of "dominant", and "submissive." I am honestly thankful I met my lady when I did, since had it been a couple of years later, after the me too disaster, goodness knows where I would've been. so to here women like this denigrating and shaming men, is actively disgusting! Indeed, it's tantamount to the violent misandry I experienced as a teenager durign my abuse. Thanks for calling it out.

[@smguy7]

When I lived in Melbourne there was graffiti on a brick wall at my local supermarket - "Dead men don't rape" - and some wag had written underneath it - "Dead lesbians don't write". That amused me.

[@detch01]

My Mother read her books and she was a different person after that - very nasty, unhappy, hateful and I suspect somewhat ashamed of it because she isolated herself from her friends who didn't follow Dworkin. Just trying to figure out what my Mother kept on droning on about and why she blamed pretty much everything she didn't like on my Father, my brother and myself, I tried to read Dworkin's "Intercourse". How anyone could take that utter horseshit as real is beyond me. What an utterly hateful, bitter woman she must have been to have written that, let alone believed it.

[@luminouslentil8510]

Also, despite the reminder, YT did not remind, hence the missing if the premier. Thank you janice and steve, please keep going. You are doing such important work. You will be remembered as people that pushed against *the message* that not enough people were exposed to

[@blackprimeminister]

Yep, it did not remind me either. They are on a blacklist.

[@janicefiamengo993]

I suspect we are still shadowbanned or some other thing, but we are happy to have our chance to expose truths about feminist leaders and issues!

[@StudioBrule]

Thanks for the encouragement Luminous!

[@blackprimeminister]

​@@StudioBrule Both you and Janice are incredible creators.

[@theminister1154]

@@janicefiamengo993 Hopefully Twitter will become a solid video platform with some opportunities to monetize. Ethan's made sounds about that recently. You'll have to pay your $8 a month though 8)

[@cognitivedissidents4642]

Imagine hating half the human race...and being honored for it.

[@theelder4797]

Woke, progressive, lefty crazy SJWs hate ALL hu-whyte peepo, but that's only around 800 million, she had them beat by hating billions decades before that!

[@latt.qcd9221]

Now imagine being *_perceived_* as hating half the human race... and being treated like a terrorist.

[@ramn1232]

Yeah that's exactly the reality of males

[@mynameissiddharth]

Dworkin was not the only woman on the Earth to loathe men. Most of the radical and lesbian feminists consider men a threat to womankind. Dworkin had and still has many supporters. One of her most loyal followers, Catharine A. MacKinnon, is said to have claimed that Dworkin deserved a Nobel Prize in Literature for her works, for they are remarkable and outstanding.

[@ramn1232]

​@@mynameissiddharth Yeah it would be really cool if Dworking got a nobel prize! But the Swedish academy, which decide the winners, are famously very patriarchal and avoid giving women the prize

[@rickmehta]

Feminism have mastered the art of setting the debate in terms of "heads I win, tails you lose". This explains why they see themselves as arbiters of truth.

[@kevinboothby5260]

What a screwball. The fact that so many men supported these radical feminists only shows the extent to which men seek women's approval. To then recast this male support as an expression of hatred is quite the stretch.

[@janicefiamengo993]

Yes, imagine gathering with 500 other men to be harangued about your refusal to stop rape. Incredible. I suspect she got a respectful reception for such utter tripe.

[@markaurelius61]

That reminds me of something that happened to me in 1986 (+-). I lived in Wellington, New Zealand and went to a series of meetings called Men's Issues. The guy who took it used the first meeting to talk about rape and how we all need to stop it. It left me with the distinct impression that he didn't have the pulse of men's problems at all, and was just influenced by feminism.

[@dalriada842]

Regular men do generally seek women's approval. In the case of the male feminist though, I think there's a fair dose of masochism and craziness on their side as well.

[@jamesespinosa690]

@@janicefiamengo993 Hey Ms Fiamengo! Was this crazy lady a socialist or marxist??? The similarities between these two movements is too common to not be related as far as I can see.

[@DaBinChe]

that is what simps do, trying to get approval from women

[@kenjohnson6326]

A female friend once told me, "Dworkin's enemy isn't men, it's food" -- perhaps quoting someone. Anyway, the video says it better: Dworking was trying to fill some emptiness inside her. I think she actually adored and looked up to men, but due to being crazy and frustrated and bitter disguised her true feelings in anti-male hatemongering. This video series is great!

[@theelder4797]

That's most whamenists - they've been lied to and told they are equal, the same as a man, therefore they can do anything men can do. When they get out in the real world and discover they CAN'T do anything a man can do, instead of recognizing reality, they think "I'm not doing as well as men, it can ONLY be because I'm getting OPPRESSED by them!!!" Whamens have a vital role to play by being a woman, but their brains are washed for decades to make them into whamens who want to be men.

[@notacompleteidiot...1285]

It's probably not hard to pathologize. There are many multigenerational minions of hers that continue her crusade. They look very similar, sound very similar...and probably smell very similar. Being innately unappealing to men can twist some women up. Just as being innately unappealing to women does the same for some men. She just got better press. 🤷

[@hannahbb2557]

she was a compulsive eater due to the traumatic sexual abuse she endured at the hands of men, your friend is a great person for joking about it though.

[@kenjohnson6326]

@@hannahbb2557 she was a fantasist, poor women, right up to the end when she thought handsome young waiters were slipping her roofies and having their way. Breakdowns happens, and we all have our fantasies, but some can't separate them from reality.

[@hannahbb2557]

@@kenjohnson6326 not surprised a male thinks this way. you’ve obviously never payed her work any serious attention but i’m not surprised a male believes all womens motivations are secretly male validation.

[@blackprimeminister]

My computer tells me this video is related to two articles on my hard drive. The first is "Doubts About Dworkin":, when a Guardian feature writer openly questioned her 1999 rape claim - they were actually a good newspaper back then and the article would never be published today - and the second is a Wikipedia article on narcissism. I find that instructive.

[@janicefiamengo993]

That's very interesting. The rape claims were truly bizarre, and how interesting that a Guardian writer would touch it. Almost certainly not today.

[@blackprimeminister]

​@@janicefiamengo993 Do you remember that viral feminist protest from Chile, "The Rapist Is You"? It is Dworkin's legacy. I do believe, Janice, that the coming age of automation will end feminism. In a generation, good-enough robots that look like women will be advanced enough to walk into people's homes. And they will be at the edge of affordability for some people - like high-end Teslas are today. And I think men will buy them to check-out of dating and dealing with unreasonable, unhinged and irrational women. And these robot-women will never talk about the "pay gap" and never complain. They will need to be charged while the guy is at work, but will keep him company in the evening. And it will destroy women's sexual marketplace value. I mean, if you put ChatGPT into a mannequin with a set of speakers and a wig, a minority of men would bite *right now*. And I can't say I blame them. Technological progress and the changing nature of work enabled people like Dworkin to exist, and I believe the same process will eventually take away their power.

[@anonmouse956]

She only gets raped in Europe and she never reports it to the police.

[@KingKong-mp6gj]

@@janicefiamengo993 I have a hard time imagining the despicable dirty dog that humped that chick. On the other hand we all know some men can get terribly desperate so my safest bet would be some totally hammered dude picked her up at a bar and after sobering up and realizing what he had done, he ran as fast as he could. Her mind then made up a story about grape in order to safeguard her from hurt. Wouldn´t be the first gal to make up such claims after an regrettable encounter.

[@coweatsman]

As well as being a founder of feminism did she also inadvertently start MGTOW?

[@theflamingone8729]

I would if I met her, gmow that is.

[@mikesedam616]

Just look at Dworkin and no surprise she is a head case. Resentment personified.

[@aservantinbabylon]

I'll "one up" Dworkin.......regarding a crime that is much more repulsive than rape and of which 70 percent of the perpetrators are women. Let's have a 24 hour truce of violent abuse against children. At least a grown woman has a chance of defending herself or choosing her environment, children to not. That is what makes it especially perverse.

[@notacompleteidiot...1285]

1:33 Seems pretty transparent to me that the cause of Dworkin's vitriol stemmed from a "if I can't have it, neither should you" mentality.

[@patkambhampati7730]

I remember Andrea Dworkin as a college freshman in 1988 in Minnesota where she was at the time. She said the sort of hate that would make the KKK impressed. But WWW AWFL Grrrrls in my elite private college said nothing. Their silence was deafening and will never be forgotten or forgiven.

[@darkmatter7274]

Thanks Janice. Informative as always. It helps me make sense of what I see happening all around me now.

[@tarstarkusz]

There is a writer I follow who calls himself the Z-Man who has a perfect label for feminists. "Crotch Warriors" That is more or less the perfect label for them. All thought begins and ends in their crotches. Dworkin is no different.

[@janicefiamengo993]

Unless they're interested in female crotches--then it's a different matter. Female sexuality is considered harmless and spiritually pure. This will be the subject of an upcoming video.

[@hanskloss7726]

Not sure if all is about this but they are certainly obsessed. Similarly they are obsessed about rape to the point of seeing all men being rapists at least potentially. I have some female friends that went this way. The ones that got married and had kids mellowed with time. The ones that did not get to form a lasting relationship with a male are unhappy or went on to form lesbian version of it and still looked extremely unhappy about it. Odd thing (or maybe not so considering all that we know about this now) there was nothing I could have said that even remotely touched the subject of sexuality that was right. With one of them I still socialize because she is good at heart even if completely confused in some matters. With help of old age I understand her mistakes as I do with mine. Just a pity so many women got so poisoned. It is sometimes really painful to look at the western societies of today. This too will fade away eventually.

[@theflamingone8729]

​@@janicefiamengo993 I was with a young lesbian friend when a carload of older (than her) lesbians drove past. I can tell you, predatory ogling is ugly, no matter who does it.

[@libbychang413]

so now u know where the #metoo mentality came from...

[@christophershrimplin1849]

This woman's brain would melt if she saw a society of humans absent their technology. The natural world is far more savage than what occurs within a modern society.

[@willmercury]

"Women have a vision of love that includes men as human, too." Apparently, Dworkin had a vision of men that included them as part of a nutritious breakfast.

[@janicefiamengo993]

The boastfulness of this statement truly outrages me.

[@coweatsman]

Dworkin had a vision of men paralleled by the KKK's vision of blacks, complete with a poster of a lynching.

[@mariussielcken]

It implies men's vision does not include women.

[@shanaungreen9753]

Love your work Janice. Excellent content! Winning!

[@nickbarber2080]

I always have a mental image of Andrea Dworkin pounding away at her typewriter...her (male) partner of many years saying "What's that you're writing,love?" and making her a cup of hot coffee.....

[@frankexchangeofviews]

At the risk of sounding crass, could you please not put that picture on the screen at the same time as the word "sex" in future? Some things just don't bear thinking about.

[@legbreaker2762]

Totally agree. Had to minimise the window AND constantly bathe with eye bleach!

[@Fakeslimshady]

Exactly lmao

[@boatfaceslim9005]

😂

[@stacypastry2440]

It's sad that she actually influenced so many people

[@janicefiamengo993]

It is. Every time I hear 'Not all feminists ...' I think of how many women's studies professors taught Dworkin and praised her 'insights,' and how many women failed to turn in their feminist cards after reading her atrocious anti-male calumnies. Of course, I was myself one of those women for a time.

[@stacypastry2440]

@@janicefiamengo993 I only went down the anti big corporations and gender roles as a social construct path. Probably because of when I went to college(99-02). It's always seemed strange to me to judge any person by their immutable characteristics though. People are great and terrible individually and they change across time. (Got that from Tom Sowell 😁)

[@Xbalanque84]

@@janicefiamengo993 Let's not forget them making excuses for her alleged Pre-Christian hippy dippy race of gynocentric dwarf druids that the patriarchy has erased from history, and for her repeated apologia for lesbian child grooming.

[@dianasitek3595]

We are indebted to Janice for wading through a level of Dante's 'Inferno', so we don't have to. Dworkin was a despicable human being. Full stop.

[@TheOakTree2]

woman like her fought for you ,check out Iranian divorce court it was like that here once

[@Individual_Lives_Matter]

@@TheOakTree2BS

[@HugoJL]

A Dworfin: "Hatred of women: unexplained, undiagnosed.. mostly unacknowledged"... Dorkin missed the best part: "unexistent"

[@janicefiamengo993]

Well said.

[@williambarr3551]

Does this video discuss Andrea Dworkin or modern American Progressives? I cannot hear any difference.

[@RaymondKarlVeasey75]

She Seems Like She Could Have Been A Poster Child For True Success If She Would Have Gone To Therapy, & Taken Meds.

[@stevenlightfoot6479]

I recall her battling with various male pornographers of the 1980s (Flynt, Guccione, maybe even Hefner). She was literally insane, and anyone who took her work seriously was also insane.

[@larkascending]

How was she wrong about pornography?

[@rickjensen2717]

She should have battled the women who chose to made money out of s€x!

[@tomasstride9590]

@@larkascending I don't think you know anything about it. Look up Pandora Blake on KZbin. You might learn a thing or two.

[@stevenlightfoot6479]

@@anthonytrepniak3387 She was insane, and when she condemned pornography, it was well before the internet. Its effects at the time were relatively benign. She just hated men.

[@larkascending]

@@tomasstride9590 I'm not going to sift through an entire KZbin channel to understand what your point is. From a cursory look she is some soft of softcore dominatrix? How does that compare to simulated gang r*pe of women? Often with racially motivated hatred against Whites or Christians. Read the motivations of Al Goldstein if you don't believe me. Also, what of the relationship harms, addiction, fetishes, etc. it can promote and induce?

[@rickjensen2717]

Sad IF she were abused as a child but no excuse for her bitter hatred - amazing she wasn't sectioned given the clearly crazy views.

[@tagoldich]

Hmm . . . so men are to be like vibrators that women may turn on and off at will?

[@raygiordano1045]

I read a feminista's book once. "Towards a Feminist Theory of State," ICR the authoress's name, but it was very poorly written. She must have worn out a dozen thesauruses digging out two (or more) words per sentence my generally above average vocabulary never heard before. She could have tried to make it intelligible, but I think she knows using big words makes people think you're intelligent, even if you make no sense. I had to wear out a few dictionaries, but for all the super deluxe wordsmithing, I can't really think of anything that made much of an impression. I would have edited it to just a few lines. Socialism is good. Women ought to be the biggest winners in a socialist state. Men are bad.

[@oraz.]

They cannonize people like this. It explains some of the contempt i see just walking down the street at least in some cities.

[@PyromancerRift]

She was not a feminist. She was a jabba the huttist.

[@comedytv2832]

Same thing

[@kevinsedwards]

Please understand she is big boned please do not shame her for having big bones from birth

[@timothymulholland7905]

She was bitter because she couldn’t compete with men for the women she wanted to data.

[@R0d_1984]

This ethnicity, on both sides of the war, playing all sides against the other, it goes back thousands of years, truth drowned in a mountain of lies...

[@buckaroobonzai2909]

The only way future women are going to marry and have families again is for good women to lead those bad women. My time is over.

[@bmardiney]

I’m pretty sure the user knows way more about the issue at hand than the used. The manipulator knows the in and outs of their manipulation way better than the manipulator’s targets. That’s kind of the point. So even her initial premise is totally backwards.

[@leoantonio]

“Groundbreaking…and even true.” 😂😆💕

[@perfumegoose]

Stoltenberg, good lord???

[@jfk1214]

It was probably the lack of intercourse that led her to that hilarious quote 🤣

[@kevinsedwards]

You should be ashamed of yourself she has big bones from birth big bones is nothing to joke about

[@menoyuno8430]

I can actually see why so many feminist loved Andrea Dworkin. Though her ideology was crap, she was awesome as the main attraction at sea world.

[@thetinmansheart]

Thank you, as always.

[@ComeAlongKay]

Do you get the feeling that women actually hate themselves and their own weakness and men remind them of what they aren’t? Strong and competent?

[@StudioBrule]

That is the story of Cain and Abel. Abel's existence made Cain feel inferior, and Cain's murderous envy could only be assuaged by killing Abel.

[@vosilerg]

RIP Rest in punishment in pieces Andrea Dworkin

[@mgtowcowboy8159]

What a shame that I was not able to watch the entire premiere of this presentation. Good work.

[@janicefiamengo993]

Next time, I hope. It's always fun to watch and chat together.

[@siriusvenus8708]

Calling Dworkin as the personification of fury and feminism is misleading--Dworkin was am intellectual who didn't mince words but her anger was not the "fury" that really gets at the core of rage. Dworkin presented all she did with erudite intellectualism combined with anger and her pathos was "real" which added to the intellectualism. She was a verbal poet in everything she did, spoken word or lecture all an artistic representation of the ethos of presenting a sane argument. Fury implies chaotic rage. Dworkin was in control even when she was seeming enraged but all was under strict control and under the beautiful use of language that Dworkin had at her lightest touch of expression.

[@chetp8423]

We are treated to many excerpts of her language in this video essay, and I failed to derive any sense of beauty from her hatred-saturated turns of phrase. I suspect you find beauty in it like those who find “humor” in the performances of Hannah Gadsby, as they offer up their clapter. It’s easy to imagine you soaking in the beauty of a boys choir with a prominent castrato section, the sublime aesthetics enhanced by the knowledge young male children were mutilated for your listening pleasure.

[@High5748]

Bruh..... You should really get out more and coming from me that's bad. How you described your administration towards her is very similar to how a certain group describes a certain evil man. Just because the gender is different and they talk about a group you despise it is still hate. Wish ya luck man, Andrea just sounded bitter throughout her life imo and kept spewing nonsense.

[@albertchurchill4845]

So that is the source of the war-on-women nonsense I was reading in newspapers during the 90s.

[@TheMad808]

She died of acute myocarditis. I find that hard to believe, you gotta have a heart to have one.

[@lakeembryant4290]

the tribe again ... Biography Early life. Andrea Dworkin was born on September 26, 1946, in Camden, New Jersey, to Harry Dworkin and Sylvia Spiegel.Her father was the grandson of a Russian Jew who fled Russia when he was 15 years old in order to escape military service, and her mother was the child of Jewish immigrants from Hungary

[@janicefiamengo993]

Indeed, she was a Jew. But her closest ally was Catharine MacKinnon, who was just as fervid and determined, a patrician gentile! Go figure.

[@oraz.]

Finding random Jews and saying "the tribe again" is the stupidest way to occupy you time.

[@Individual_Lives_Matter]

@@oraz.Exactly. It’s demented and reminds me of the same stupidity (group guilt/innocence) the woke engage in.

[@JG-zs8tr]

Hearing Janice - a woman I respect and adore - speak so frankly about f***ing while a picture of AD displayed on the screen created a strange blend of titillation, shame, and disgust. 😩🤦🏻‍♂️ Otherwise, great video as usual. 😉

[@janicefiamengo993]

This gave me a great laugh! I felt quite awkward saying it, but couldn't think of any dignified alternative.

[@manonymous4737]

I wonder what she would have said about Onlyfans

[@tintinhickey5869]

I did agree with her anti-pornography views and the terrible harm it does to both men and women but her deranged anti-male rhetoric was wrong (interesting how some modern feminists have no real problem with pornography and advocate for the sexual ‘freedom’ to have sex like a promiscuous man)

[@cunjoz]

gorlock the destroyer before it was mainstream

[@mynameissiddharth]

In literary theory, there is noteworthy difference between the "implied author" and the "real author". Leo Tolstoy, the Russian writer who lived from 1828 to 1910, is the real author of _The Kreutzer Sonata._ On the other hand, a reader designs an image of the character of the author of a book like that in his or her own mind. That's the implied author. In _Intercourse,_ Dworkin critiques Tolstoy's own life while discussing the book I mentioned above. She derides and belittles the great author because of what the book is like and even brings in elements from Tolstoy's personal life, especially his relationship with his wife. What this act by this deranged and vindictive being of modern feminism results in is the mingling of the implied and the real authors. Modern literary theories that advocate *deconstruction* and *reader response* generally do not give much importance to the real author but to the text itself and the reader. In _Pornography: Men Possessing Women,_ Dworkin dedicated an entire chapter to the analysis of the Marquis de Sade. But she just analysed his own life - most of which are mere conjectures and stories (nothing definitive is actually known about Sade, few authentic portraits of this man actually exist). She completely rubbishes Sade's literary talent, his work and his positive influence. If feminists believe that someone like Dworkin is legitimate, I do not hesitate to state that the movement itself is gradually descending into illegitimacy.

[@boatfaceslim9005]

"Gradually"? Feminism *began* as envy fueled passive aggression and has only got progressively more irrational, angry and deranged from there

[@BlackOmega9]

Maybe the textbook comically ugly villain was inspired by this particular specimen. This is the architect of the west's downfall. Her writings and ravings are the bible for today's feminist.

[@theelder4797]

That's a great opening description 😆👍

[@lavenderroseluvzwomen891]

Fun fact: Andrea Dworkin was married to a man when she died.

[@duhduh666]

Yes John Stoltenberg who claimed Andrea’s book saved his life. He became gay because of male oppression. I’m not being facetious and this is not black comedy. You can look him up

[@daha3074]

@@duhduh666 Yep, he's a self identified radical feminist too.

[@duhduh666]

@@daha3074 I have read his book. I know the bloke.

[@user-iu1ru1qz7u]

Likely her personal tool of make degradation for her to abuse. I used to work with a guy who was a bitter, lonely dude. He met and married a radical feminist, and a couple years later he came out as a "lesbian woman". Absolutely morbid. A perfect example of hatred of men and mental abuse.

[@sperrotta91]

Yeah, some of her writing was flagrant misandry and shouldn't be lauded, but she was right about pornography and spoke some uncomfortable truths...

[@BruceJohnston-cl7ho]

I'm not sure she was right about pornography. To hear a lot of women tell it, their major complaint about pornography is that it turns men off of real sex and makes them feel inadequate physically, not that it increases sexual violence or the risk thereof. Dworkin did her work on that subject in the 70s and 80s, I believe, but reported rates of violent sexual assault in the US fell precipitously from 1970 to 2010, even as videocassettes - and, in the 1990s and 2000s, the Web - flooded the world with cheap porn of all kinds. There was a big - and surprising - uptick in reported rates of assault from 2011 to 2018, but I note that that was the time of the social media revolution and the introduction of smartphones (and what has come to be known as 'wokeness'). I'm honestly not sure anything actually changed then other than definitions and incentive structures for reporting. Dworkin was, IMO, extremely intelligent and quite authentic in her rage and despair, but I don't think she spoke much factual truth at all, at least when considered in statistical terms or with regard to any sort of real moral equality. If rape and war are 'in' men - and, as potentialities, I don't disagree with that statement - then it seems fair to argue that egocentric infanticide, elder abuse, moral hysteria, profound psychological cruelty, and borderline personality are 'in' women. The difference is that women are rarely blamed, as a sex, for the misbehavior of their worst representatives. Even those representatives themselves are rarely held accountable publicly in the same way a man would be. I'd like the same standard to be applied to men.

[@lisamoag6548]

He was sad e because he was wrong about women and men.

[@user-yi4fl7bt8v]

To this abrupt statement "Dead man don't rape." one can calmly reply "You are right, but also dead girl don't say no." just to be provocative. (It's a joke, in case...)

[@maximiliankinzett2636]

Honestly officer, she was dead when I found her! - Cheech Marin :)

[@stephendeluca4479]

I do believe she was abused when she was a kid.

[@reliableandrew]

So the question is then, do we use the ‘abuse excuse?’…or does humanity expect / desire individuals to heal from their associated traumas instead of lashing out?

[@stephendeluca4479]

@@reliableandrew I don't attempt to provide her with an excuse for the bile and venom she spews. I only meant that of all the claims she made regarding her experiences with men, I think she's telling the truth about being abused. She has some of the hallmarks of an abuse survivor, including obesity.

[@reliableandrew]

@@stephendeluca4479 Okay.

[@stephendeluca4479]

@@seang2700 Certainly not. I don't know if you saw my reply to "reliableandrew" in that vein.

[@brainfreeze1925]

Everything about Dworkin is distasteful; intellectually, emotionally, spiritually and physically. How do such abhorrent people get a platform and respect from anyone?

[@robleahy5759]

I pity the avian fauna who were affected when this toxic mega beast got cremated near them.

[@kevinsedwards]

She has big bones from birth you should be ashamed of yourself for fat shaming her for having big bones

[@reliableandrew]

Dworkin as a woman naturally wrote and emoted in ways that appealed to women’s sensibilities and their ways of perceiving themselves in the world…will be very difficult for the average woman (then and now) not to resonate with her narratives on some level…it will sound ‘true’ to them…(and of course to men who identify or over-identify with female concerns). Most feminist literature tends to flow well, be well written and be very compelling (according to their perspective). At the end of the day though, as Janice says, Dworkin and others take a reductive position on men…it’s up to men then to have an affirming narrative around themselves and their humanity…if aspects of feminism are wrong, men have to be able to articulate it /demonstrate it.

[@BruceJohnston-cl7ho]

I agree completely. Feminism wouldn't be as popular as it is if it did not speak to something profound in the way that women experience the world. The great irony is that the only two things that I have ever seen significantly lessen women's feelings of fear and vulnerability - learning greater assertiveness/agency and greater levels of male protection and care - are taboo within feminism, except when expressed indirectly.

[@reliableandrew]

@@BruceJohnston-cl7ho Yes Bruce, you understand and resonate…after all Janice was once a feminist!…so again it appeals to something within women, they can be seduced by the ideology. Very much agree with your points around female assertiveness and male protection…feminism is a disordered self-serving mess.

[@minorityofone1510]

Who?

[@Shadow11614]

You and Greta Aurora would make a good collaboration, she also makes really good content debunking feminist narratives.

[@epicotakugamer4930]

The ultimate femcel

[@wyattmann8157]

Dworkin looks like she ate all of her critics…

[@kevinsedwards]

Please think twice before insulting and shaming she has big bones from birth you should not make fun of big bones

[@jawwad1189]

This is quite interesting, I saw a video by where an male only fans star told that most of his clients which were feminists liked rough sex. I think I saw Jordan Peterson talk about this

[@user-iu1ru1qz7u]

Every woman I've known likes rough sex. And in line with your statement, the one that liked it the roughest and most degrading(her description), was the feminist. Predictably, she was highly conflicted by her cognitive dissonance. Desiring strong male dominance while touting feminist viewpoints about toxic masculinity and the need for men to embrace their feminine side. Feminist ideology is pure. misanthropy.

[@larkascending]

Her anti-pornography writings might be accurate. I haven't read anything by her, but pornography is definitely a problem for men and women.

[@janicefiamengo993]

As someone else recently pointed out under an Andrea Dworkin video, it's significant that she never criticized gay male pornography.

[@theelder4797]

Pr0n is a weapon.

[@elvenskill0]

The main problem is that she presents pornography on the basis of privilege and power and pretending that women are the sole "victims"

[@Xenor999]

@@janicefiamengo993 True it was a women only problem for her

[@bruine5253]

She takes Feminism to its logical conclusions and thereby incorporates its contradictions. However wrong she was, she was no humbug. While disagreeing with just about all her conclusions, I admired here intellectual integrity.

[@chriswest8389]

DWeeb

[@thermalreboot]

That photo of Dworkin reminds me of Aughra from The Dark Crystal.

[@devlinallistair5147]

Of course, she looks like that.

[@kevinsedwards]

Looks like what is exactly she has big bones she has larger than normal Bones from birth stop shaming her

[@DavidChristieCareerCafe]

Poor person. How unhappy she must have been.

[@AncientRylanor69]

l

[@IsmaelLovecraft]

Janice, "self-chosen pulpit" is a cheap shot. only a congregation can give a pulpit power, and Dworkin had, and still has, a large congregation. I think that a much better, and more useful, analysis would ask: WHY DID SO MANY WOMEN JOIN THAT CONGREGATION?

[@TexanWineAunt]

This is a hate video.

[@kurtgraham9495]

pffft she is protected by nature.

[@perfumegoose]

More proof here that humans will not and were not meant to persist

[@hellohello3938]

I ❤ Dworkin

[@shaftlamer]

witch burning has it´s use

[@ramn1232]

Andrea Rita Dworkin was a genius, a great writer and one of the most memorable human rights activists in modern times, especially in american history! Rest in power Andrea, you have left a legacy✊

[@biancawilloughby9980]

This form of feminism became Extinct after women got tired of being hapless vulnerable victims with no agency. Feminism per se is not a hate movement.

[@reliableandrew]

Men here having fun and games relishing in dehumanising Dworkin and her appearance, won’t really have a leg to stand on when women / feminists do exactly the same to them. Distasteful comments like ‘who would r*pe that thing’, give feminists ample ammunition to label men as potential rapists, ‘toxic’ and the rest. Labelling her ‘insane’, is honestly a pretty ineffective way of expressing dissent regarding her also. Props to the men here dealing solely with Dworkin’s behaviours / influence / impact, etc. As Janice has alluded to in the comments, wait until you hear what ‘one’ Mary Daly had to say.

[@janicefiamengo993]

Yup, Daly was a doozie.

[@perfumegoose]

What do you mean WHEN. Most if not ALL feminist ammunition are lies.

[@reliableandrew]

@@perfumegoose Don’t tell me it was just the word ‘when’…that you took issue with Timothy! You can see the whole context of my comment fella, so you know exactly what I was saying.

[@elvenskill0]

@@reliableandrew Your statement it's true at some point... But there is a problem with Dworkin's appearance, she prentended to be constantly sexually harassed, intimidated. I do think that was her narcisistic fantasy.

[@reliableandrew]

@@elvenskill0 'Problem with Dworkin's appearance', for who? Not for us men to dictate how a man-hating individual should look, purely for our liking right? Why should we care? Wasn't looking to date her (while she was alive). If she did the pretence thing to undermine mens' humanity and demonise us without nuance...that part has to be addressed / dealt with.

[@gypsygirl1692]

Aw, look at the 'pick me' Janice. Continuous slander against her looks won't make men like you more. Andrea Dworkin was an absolute genius with metaphorical ball$ of steel.

[@loganblackwood2922]

Only a person with a deep disdain for men collectively can possibly refer to Dworkin as a genius. You're no different from the white supremacists who say the same about mustasche man. As long as that hateful, spineless garbage is targetted at the people you hate, it is all fine.

[@user-iu1ru1qz7u]

What's genius about being hateful towards others? Her claims don't even sound convincing, just appealing to rage and emotions, which always finds some form of female audience. Her grotesque appearance only adds comedic fuel to the fire. This woman was severely lacking in all the things that women desire(beauty, attention, adoration of men, a loving relationship). Instead of working on herself to achieve these things, she lashed out in hatred and used whatever IQ she possessed to make up reasoning for her situation. You berate Janice for attacking her, while verbally attacking Janice yourself, lol. Truly, these ideologies are most appealing to the emotional and unintelligent.

[@hieronymus9]

The Professor was picked a long time ago, sad to say for those of us who came along later :)

[@kevinsedwards]

Yes sister I agree with you I'm tired of all the shame they're giving her making shame for her bigger than average Bones from birth she has big bones this is not funny this is not something to be made ashamed of she was just big boned still beautiful very very sexy and beautiful just big bones

[@kurtgraham9495]

Seems anybody can be an author. As a man, im going to write a book.. "Your 3rd trimester and what to expect " Makes as much sense as this author being fked ever...

[@notacompleteidiot...1285]

7:01 ...who looks an awful lot like many middle-aged lesbians. 🤔

[@KiltedDaddyBear]

In this stream of rage, Mary Daly was the priestess and Andrea Dworkin was the feminist version of Baal.

[@TheVeganVicar]

🐟 26. FEMINISM: FEMINISM DEFINED: Feminism is the penultimate evil at present because feminism is based on the misguided assumption that women are equal to (or even SUPERIOR to) men. Those who undertake an academic course in gender/feminist studies at college or university could most probably fill this page with definitions of “feminism”, but there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the essence of feminism is the advocacy of women to become men in all but genitalia. The only institution more destructive to human society than feminism, is illicit governance (see Chapter 22). WHY EQUALITY IS NONSENSICAL: Equality is non-existent in this transactional sphere. Equality exists ONLY in abstract concepts such as mathematics, and arguably, on the sub-atomic level. Even identical twins are not perfectly identical in every possible criterion. Geneticists have discovered that a pair of so-called “identical twins” share, on average, about only ninety-four percent of their genetics by the time they are born. Mothers of such twins can instinctually differentiate between them, since there are always distinguishing features. Unfortunately, for a great many persons, the objective fact that equality among humans is non-existent, is impossible to accept, since they are afflicted with what is known as a “leftist” mentality. At this point, it is highly recommended that one read the Glossary entries under “leftism” and “adharma” to understand this sinister mindset. THE NATURE OF HIERARCHY: Like most species of animals, and unquestionably in the case of our nearest relatives, the great apes, Homo sapiens society is founded on an unambiguously-stratified configuration. The very pinnacle of humanity is the current World Teacher, whilst the lowest members of society are newborn babies, with every other human falling somewhere in that spectrum, for, as demonstrated in the previous paragraph, no two persons can be exactly equal in every way, and certainly not in their authority over others. Even in some insect social orders, notably bees and ants, are necessarily organized hierarchically. Read Chapters 19-25 of this Holy Scripture, “F.I.S.H”, to learn more about this hierarchical basis of human society. So, although a female can exhibit superior traits, skills, etcetera, to some men, a woman can never ever have AUTHORITY over a man. Therefore, the assertion that women are subordinate to men is based purely on this notion of AUTHORITY, and not on any particular attribute, such as intelligence, wisdom, beauty, physical strength, or artistic talent. Simply because a woman may be stronger or more highly-educated than her husband, for instance, does not give her the right to instruct her master in any way. No true man has ever been attracted to a domineering, bossy female! If you have read this far into my book, it is most likely that you are in agreement with this incisive perspective. However, because this chapter of “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity” is sometimes posted in social media websites on the Internet and Emailed to select individuals, independent from the entire book, many persons (notably feminists, both male and female) will undoubtedly find these notions of hierarchy and authority to be somewhat alien to their world-view. This is despite the fact that those leftists/feminists invariably accede to the supposed authority of certain individuals in more than a few facets of their lives, such as when obeying their employers, acknowledging the authority of a judge or a magistrate in a court of law, or when following the instructions of a traffic officer. Truth be told, no true man would ever descend to the level of accepting counsel from ANY of his subordinates. A man should fully obey his appointed masters (such as his father, grandfather, uncle, employer, or priest), and never emasculate himself by submitting to the dictates of a mere female, or any other lesser. Of course, in past millennia, it was unnecessary to explicate the reasons why (adult) males are inherently superior in authority to females - most everybody, both men and women, accepted that claim without argument, as it seemed quite logical. However, at the time of writing, especially in the Western World, very few understand that the reason for this assertion is due simply to it being part of the natural hierarchy of society. Only emasculated, feminized “men” are unable to comprehend this very basic fact of life. Imagine the scenario where a woman provides the material requirements of her family, physically protects her family from harm, teaches and instructs her husband and their children. Does that appear to follow the natural order of things? OBVIOUSLY not. Therefore, my point is made. USURPING GENDER ROLES: Feminist ideology commonly manifests as the desire for women to perform the societal role of the OPPOSITE gender, that is to say, partaking in intrinsically male activities, such as studying at educational institutions, working for a wage, or building business enterprises (or even more preposterously, usurping the position of a national leader or the role of a member of the Holy Priesthood!). Feminism also advocates for preferential treatment of females in institutions that may have traditionally favoured men and/or boys, even when “the tables have been completely turned-around the other way”, so to speak. In a nutshell, feminists suffer from the psychological disorder termed “penis envy”, and fundamentally yearn to become males in every conceivable way (sometimes even biologically, despite the incontrovertible fact that transitioning from one gender to the other gender being a physiological impossibility). This explains why (female) feminists are typically manly. Conversely, as a general rule, the more feministic and gynocentric is a man, the more effeminate and uxorious is his behaviour and his manner. This aspiration of a person wishing to seize the position of another person, deemed to be of higher value, is a common phenomenon in MALES as well, such as working-class men who consider themselves to be rulers/kings or priests. Every so-called “priest” and every national leader on earth, with virtually no exceptions, is either a worker, a businessman, or even more risibly, a mere female, who is literally stealing the occupation of an authentic guru or arrogating the role of a king. Such persons are, therefore, full-time criminals and ought to be censured. FEMINISM = MARXISM: Feminists are victims of the SLAVISH mentality that the instigators of that evil, pernicious ideology (Karl Marx and the so-called “Globalist Elite”) have always wanted them to be. The desire to serve is a natural propensity of humans, but one ought to serve a lawful authority. It is extremely unfortunate that the vast majority of women are unable to see the obvious truth that feminist ideology wants the destruction of women (as well as society as a whole), as can clearly be seen at present. At least it is clearly seen by any decent, wise and intelligent person. Of course, from the very beginning of our species, there were most probably numerous individual women who attempted to assert dominance over their menfolk, but it was not until Herr Marx and his minions formulated their insidious egalitarian ideology of communism, that feminism started to make a significant impact on human society, at least in the so-called “West”, and now too, in even the most conservative cultures.

[@janicefiamengo993]

Mary Daly will figure in an upcoming video on feminist anti-male exterminationism.

[@KiltedDaddyBear]

@@janicefiamengo993 Excellent. These videos are wonderful, full of value and always welcomed. As a unaware male, I read Daly's Beyond God the Father, but beginning her other book Gyn/Ecology: The Metaethics of Radical Feminism was the formal beginning of my enlightenment that these radicals were truly male-hating first and foremost. However, your videos do show that the movement has always had an element of hatred, and I thank you for this awareness. At the risk of feminist whatever - you are a treasure.

[@TheVeganVicar]

@@janicefiamengo993, looking forward to that! Incidentally, now that Musk has bought Twitter, will you be reopening your account?

[@reliableandrew]

@@KiltedDaddyBear Well said.🌿