The Music Man Kaizen Is UnPlayable (For Me)

[@tj10777]

I played one at guitar center. I almost always play standing up, so I brought a strap with me. The Kaizen is extremely comfortable to play standing. The body carve is amazing. I love it, but the infinity radius is weird on my picking hand like you said. Jumping between strings just feels odd when doing fast picking runs and I was constantly missing the next string. If the Kaizen didn't have the infinity radius, it would be an instant buy for me.

[@andrefludd]

Glad to know I’m not crazy lol thanks for sharing

[@yourmomlovespenis]

You still go to guitar center? 🤔

[@rhymenocologist]

You and I have wildly different tastes in guitars. I have basically zero interest in owning most of the guitars you review, but I absolutely love your reviews on them.

[@andrefludd]

Thank you :)

[@mandanglelow1442]

And what are the guitars that you do enjoy if I might ask?

[@drewburgess525]

I’m the same way. I hate pointy guitars. I’m a romantic though, and practicality has rarely influenced any aspect of my life outside of a good excuse.

[@rhymenocologist]

@@mandanglelow1442 I'm way more traditional. Or cheesy 80s metal guitars. Ergonomic or artsy guitars, headless, and multiscale just don't do anything for me. I find a lot of the modern technical specs fascinating, though

[@mandanglelow1442]

@@rhymenocologist I asked because I'm an older player myself and I grew up on the holy trinity: Les Pauls, Strats and Teles. Then in the early nineties I got turned on to PRS and I bought a beautiful custom 24 in 1997 which became my number one guitar for quite a while. About 8 years later I had Carvin build me a custom guitar which is called the California single which is their version of a Les Paul. That guitar then became my number one guitar until about 3 years ago when I picked up a 2001 Brian Moore custom which at the time was at the absolute top of the guitar Innovation scene. I love that guitar and I would never get rid of it but it still hasn't knocked off my custom Kiesel. My point in all this is because I've been very interested lately in the strandberg seven strings with the fanfrets but I won't pull the trigger on something that I can't play first. I am personally very interested in anyone who can come up with new ideas for the guitar because no matter what shape or form they come in they're all still guitars and basically sound like a guitar. I've always found it interesting that the differences in guitars are so minor that you can put on many records between the 60s and the 2000s and defy anyone to tell you which guitar is being played and most likely no one would be able to anyway. Cheers

[@carloslonmoer6285]

The $4,000 price makes it unplayable for most people. I suppose if you're a professional though thats just the cost of doing business.

[@DrMurdercock]

its a "designer guitar" man....Like a designer purse, it doesn't do anything a 300 guitar wouldn't do......Over priced

[@oliviercognaux_official]

5000 eur in europe with import taxes.... crazy pricing & overpriced ! Sorry musicman...

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

I think you mean ‘unpayable’.

[@watersnortmoment3734]

@claesvanoldenphatt9972 No, given the context, he meant what he said. Just holding a 4000 dollar guitar will make most people nervous, thus, for the most part, unplayable.

[@darenwalker2517]

I disagree. There's no level of virtuosity that requires this cost of guitar to accomplish their music. Nothing wrong with wanting a guitar like this. But Tosin could do a show on a $1000 axe and nobody would know the difference. And as long as it was set up perfectly, I don't think he would care either.

[@averyhargrave7343]

i personally have considered getting a 6-string multiscale guitar for tuning in all 5ths. the difference between the lowest and highest strings becomes massive and i think fanned frets would help it feel more consistent.

[@ej1_drew]

that could be interesting 🤔

[@BallzReynolds]

This might be one of the only sensible uses of a multiscale. I’d be interested to hear your thoughts if you do it. I would choose a more aggressive multi scale like a 25.5-27 for that purpose.

[@averyhargrave7343]

@@BallzReynoldsI would also prefer a 25.5”-27” scale but i’m not sure if i’ve found a 6-string with that - i think the only ones i’ve found have been 25.5”-26.25”

[@vorpalblades]

I've been playing a seven string or 5 string bass with the 2 bottom strings tuned in 5ths for about 20 years. I haven't felt a need to tune the higher strings likewise.

[@grigoriraspoutine9298]

yes, it's cool when you wanna go full king crimson. It can help feeling more smooth with harder string gauges / low six string tunings.

[@Wizzanker]

I have a fanned-fret 6 string Strandberg. You are right that it doesn’t make much difference on a 6 string. I think it is a bit more ergonomic as your hand goes up the fretboard, but it’s minor. I like it mostly for the aesthetics.

[@rolandolimon2260]

There is a sound difference. High strings will sound like Slash and AC/DC …. Lower strings with have the attack and clarity of Fenders

[@nino9273]

I don't really agree with that, the difference in tone between 24,75 or 25,5 inches is almost negligible, it's more the feeling that matters as a player. Strings on a longer scale length feel a bit tighter so to you they sound different, but probably nobody else will hear it.@@rolandolimon2260

[@swarthygiant1463]

@rolandolimon2260 that’s relative to what gauge you string it with. If you use a typical pack you will get that effect but you can use a more uniform set of strings with a multiscale if you want too

[@dahliasmiles7122]

I guess it's for extended range fanned fret players who want a 6-string but have gotten used to playing fanned fret

[@Exgrmbl]

That's right, the reason for the fanning on the Strandberg is ergonomic and not sonic.

[@seankeogh20]

man, this channel is just so good. Love how picky (in a great way) you are with every detail. Means alot to see someone talking about the necessary things!

[@andrefludd]

Thanks for the support

[@zz-.-]

Great review. I picked up a Kaizen 7 Spectraflare and it’s incredible. The neck is unique and super fast. The shape of the body is wonderful and the weight is great, super light and contours to my body. Distribution of weight is the best I’ve felt. Sound is incredible - full and sustains great. Don’t agree with your conclusion but love the detail you go into 🤘

[@andrefludd]

Glad you like yours!

[@frankiechan9651]

Rabea Massad's review described the infinity radius in a way that I have not seen in any others and allowed me to finally understand it. The fretboard has a radius - akin to any other fretboard. The difference is that the top of the curve is NOT centred down the middle of the fretboard - it is closer to the high e string side. If you have a look at the freboard - on the low E side, the thickness is less than on the high e side. Not sure if it's just the one radius or compound. I'm assuming single radius because the maths involved in a compound radius on top of the infinity radius would be hell to get right/consistent. While I've entertained the though of fan fret on a 6 string - I get your point and maybe it is better for something like a 7 or 8 string.

[@thepagesaretorn]

Subtle multiscale helps when the neck is angled upwards to match the position of the elbow. I got my degree in classical guitar, and with it I got a chance to delve into alexander technique (essentially trying to assert ergonomic priority onto your instrument). Generally the forearm needs to be parallel to the fret, so the elbow rises and drops as you play in different positions. When you have multiscale, you can do this with less elbow movement, which now instead swivels rather than completely has to relocate.

[@EvilDragon666]

@andrefludd There's your answer! :)

[@spenserphoenix]

That makes complete sense. When Ibanez came out with their one way fan everyone, me included was sceptical but when I played it I was amazed at how comfortable it was. I play classical position but I get if people play with the guitar on their picking hand leg it might feel weird.

[@Tatted-ne7tu]

You’re reviews are so different from others. I very appreciate the unbiased content, presentation and ability to think outside the box. I wish I could take you with me when I’m guitar shopping.

[@toesalad]

I have both a Kaizen 6 and a Strandberg neck-thru. I find the Kaizen much more comfortable and playable... and I don't exactly know why. One thing I do like is the fact that the point where the multi-scale transitions on the Kaizen is in a much better place on the neck. I find the upper registers more difficult to play on the Strandberg because the multi-scale starts at the head, making the frets much more angled and closer together as you go down the neck. Whereas the Kaizen has the non-angled fret being in the middle of the fretboard, and thus everything is less slanted overall (if that makes sense!).

[@andrefludd]

Thanks for your perspective!

[@justinvzu01]

The zero fret being at 7 is actually quite low. Most guitars have it at 9.

[@toesalad]

@@justinvzu01 yeah, I have seen that. I have never played one before so I can’t really compare it. I like it a lot better than the Strandberg placement at the nut though.

[@hustlinc3540]

EBMM you just got fludded!

[@K3150]

I don't have a multi-scale guitar but I have one of the Ibanez QX54QM headless guitars. All of the frets are slanted equally rather then it being multi scale so its a little bit different. The slanted frets look perfectly straight when you have the guitar in "classical" position, and it keeps my wrist in a more relaxed position. For years I have struggled with wrist pain while playing guitar due to a metal plate in my left wrist from an injury. With this guitar I am able to play for much longer periods of time and experience very little of the pain I use to experience. I am now in the market for a strandberg because I think having the straighter frets closer to fret 1 might be better then having them slanted all the way down the neck like this Ibanez. I think some multi-scale guitars where the frets closer to fret 1 start to slant away from the player like on the kiesel vader would probably put more strain on my wrist so I would probably never get one of those in multi-scale.

[@denny.h776]

The subtle fanned fret imo is NOT for drop tunings, but predominantly open tunings. It’s subtle enough to let people get away with certain string gauges and when tuning the ebg strings can be tedious meanwhile the lower strings are still good for smaller drops

[@dlmyrs]

Maybe one day they’ll make one without the fanned frets. Other than that I think it’s great! Never had interest in the Kaizen before, but I think you sold me on it.

[@palehorsenameddeath7731]

Great video and great information Thank you. My experience is the total opposite Out of the 180 guitars I own, this is the IMHO brought the electric guitar in to modern times. Everything else is simply over hashed 1950 designed. The shape and weight and the neck shape for me has been worlds apart. I have never played a fan fret until I bought my first Strandberg. I love the fan frets on the six string tuned to standard A440 tuning. For myself this is a guitar life changing instrument. I have been playing guitar for 50 years so this is not my first guitar. All and all everyone has different likes and playing techniques.

[@zz-.-]

totally agree 👌

[@zoomzoom3950]

WOW! Kaizen 6 is my favorite guitar! I purchased one (indigo blue), and had two more (white and mint) within a week, and just purchased my fourth (Kryptonite)! I plan to buy more once I sell other gear. Cheers! edit: a floating trem would be nice tho

[@andrefludd]

Very happy you commented. I knew it would be the best thing for someone and this confirms that for me.

[@dust17111]

Wow 16,000 on some guitars hmm 🤔

[@zoomzoom3950]

@@dust17111 sold four guitars to help cover some of the costs. 😎

[@zoomzoom3950]

@@andrefludd Thank you. I've had many guitar "honeymoons" over the years, within a few minutes of playing my first Kaizen, I was hooked. The very next day I was convinced, and started looking again; found the second (good deal for new), and another good deal for the third. I also heard rumors of new colors being released before the end of the year, and sure enough several new colors were released in October, - got another good deal on a new Kaizen 6 in the new Kryptonite color. Still selling gear for another Kaizen, or maybe another Majesty?

[@dust17111]

@@zoomzoom3950 I bet you did

[@9unslin9er]

I bought an Ormsby 6 string fan fret specifically for drop tuning. I wanted to go Drop C without going thicker on the low string. It's hard sometimes to get the percussiveness on the bass strings, while still keeping the highs slinky.

[@xN1g3lx]

I picked up the seven string recently and it’s a weird guitar. I love the engineering of it but it’s really not a guitar that should be considered by anyone without money to burn, it’s a fun one off, but unlikely to check all the boxes of a daily driver.

[@zoomzoom3950]

I have the Kaizen 6 (currently 4 of them), they're my daily driver, though a floating trem would be nice...that's why I have Majesty and a few Jacksons with FR trems.

[@BirnieMac1]

The direction they've thinned it on feels like the opposite of what it should be, having the thinner edge on the top would make it harder to grip without your thumb creeping too high Like having the thinner side on the side the thumb approaches from feels like it'd be ergonomically appropriate

[@hydorah]

That 'radius' sounds awful, like the one thing that is so niche and oddball it ruin the whole thing. The fretboard sounds more like it is cambered. And the reasoning is to enable you to see the fretboard as you play? Don't look at the fretboard! Listen to and feel what you are doing, address your audience! Shame man. The styling is awesome, like the Lambo of guitars

[@zoomzoom3950]

The infinity radius, just like the fan frets, are subtle IME. I don't look at the fretboard while playing, just the side markers. I find it comfortable to play, it doesn't feel radical to me.

[@andrefludd]

I do think a fan fret can be useful on a 6 string, but I’d assume the fan would need to be more dramatic to be VERY useful. Thoughts?

[@zoomzoom3950]

It's hardly noticeable to me; I can go from a Kaizen to a Majesty and back easily. I like the Kaizen neck profile and infinity radius feel, though I rarely look at my fretboard while playing, I use side markers extensively not fret markers.

[@samseitz9937]

It’s probably marketing. As the saying goes build a mouse and make people think they need mouse traps. Guitar marketing these days has gotten shrewd and very clever to make people think they NEED certain specs

[@zynosgd9982]

A more subtle fan fret is more of a confort thing than a string tension thing. For most people, it follows the natural position of the hand when playing barre chords and similar stuff. I don't own one but I've tried some and for me it works. It's nit that noticeable but I don't have to break my wrist as much to play certain chords

[@Stachtube]

I don’t like the way dramatic fans feel when playing lower strings by the nut.

[@GregMerritt-ws8tq]

What I wanna know is where you got that leg cushion. That's a solution to a posture problem that I didn't know existed.

[@jadenrobertshaw3545]

I work for EBMM and sand these guitars everyday lmao thisll be an interesting watch

[@andrefludd]

Oh that’s really cool. Would love to talk sometime :)

[@zoomzoom3950]

Nice, the Kaizen 6 is my favorite guitar; I have 4 so far. The fit, finish and quality are flawless IMO. Not as effortless to play as my Majesty though. 😎 Cheers!

[@badscrew4023]

A fun thought: if they ever make a cheaper "Sterling by Musiclan" version, that will certainly have a normal radius fingerboard. And you'll probably like it better 😂

[@Ccorleone1609]

I still have an OLP by Music Man Bass guitar at home. Best 400€ ever spent.

[@larrylambert2727]

I'd be interested in seeing you checkout the Charvel Guthrie Govan model. It's really become the guitar I default to when something is difficult to play or need one for everything. It may look like a simple super Strat at first look, but the little refinement are all player-centric and the sum of them just gets the guitar out of your way and gives you about any tone you'd ever need to pull off a gig. It's truly sublime, imo.

[@andrefludd]

I’ve played it and every time I see one in a guitar store I play it until the staff gets annoyed lol. I’d I had endless money and space, it would for sure be in the collection. I love it.

[@FoiMal123]

I think on a 6 string fanned frets are more so for ergonomics. It's what manufacturers say anyway. I have never tried a fanned 6 string.

[@gitarmats]

This guitar for me falls into the category of "Cool, but not cool enough to consider buying for its price". But like you said, for some people this guitar might just be perfect.

[@zoomzoom3950]

I also agree with your offset comparison. My fav Fender are Jags, I sold a Marr Jag and a MIJ Jag (among other guitars; now down to one Jag) to cover some of my costs. It's a modern offset for sure, IMO The fan frets are barely noticeable, more of an aesthetic IMO, keeping it consistent with the 7-string models. Even though the Kaizen 6 quickly became my favorite guitar (to near obsession lol), the Majesty is more versatile and effortless to play in comparison. The Kaizen 6 just works well for me / feels right...though difficult to explain. It's the, "when you find a guitar that works for you, you just know it" sentiment. Cheers!

[@rutledge123]

I have a few fanned fret 6 string guitars, I don't think i would go back it's not the tuning or the scale length that matters to me, its how the frets match my fingers when doing wide stretches on the neck, the slight angle is so much more comfortable and i find myself having to strain way less to get large chord shapes, but i have really tiny hands

[@pieflies]

This is interesting to me. I hadn’t heard of this benefit before now. That’s something I also struggle with for some songs due to my finger length so I’m keen to try it.

[@Damgus47]

What gets me is how thin the body is and how big the neck is especially for the 7 string. My favorite guitar I've picked up is a kiesel thanos headless I currently own 2 it is much like a strandberg super nice

[@nj1255]

The closest thing I've seen to the Kaizen "infinity radius" is probably a bass that has a twisted neck. I can't remember the builder's name, but the concept was interesting as it made the headstock end being twisted downwards (when playing it) so that you don't have to wrap your wrist and hand around the neck as far, while at the same time making the body twist upwards towards you so you can still maintain a comfortable placement of your right-hand down towards the bridge. Very interesting concept, but completely unpractical for mass-production.

[@timtrolll]

Dingwall makes a bass with a twisted neck. I think it's one of the NG models but it's hard to find a definite answer

[@onevoiceinc]

I just got in my new Sabre. The Kaizen just didn't speak to me personally. Loving the Sabre. Best guitar for recording... and I'm about to find out how it does live after this coming weekend.

[@Robstafarian]

I will never have anything to do with Ernie Ball Music Man Guitars or any other aspect of the Ball family due to their history of screwing over innovators: from starving George Fullerton and Leo Fender out of Music Man such that they started G&L Guitars to copying PMT's Guitar Max system to "create" the Game Changer, more people need to know that history and how the present reflects the past.

[@zoomzoom3950]

was it illegal? did they get arrested, go to court and get convicted? it's business, Robbie. get over it.

[@Robstafarian]

@@zoomzoom3950 PMT filed suit against EBMM for stealing their patented invention, and the Ball family had enough money to get a gag order which prevented PMT from discussing what had occurred. Thankfully, I saw all the information before that order existed around the time I became an individual inventor myself; that case and Fender's blatant violation of Randall Smith's patents were why I did not patent my invention. Theft from individual inventors and small businesses is not business: it is the destruction of the middle class and those who hope to join it. I am sure you will dance and sing when everyone other than you is too poor to survive.

[@CKS64]

Fanned frets appear moe ergonomic for finger placement.

[@zoomzoom3950]

it's subtle on the Kaizen 6, I really don't even notice it.

[@CraigularjJoeWoodworks]

The radius is a hard stop for me. Any where from 9.25 to 14 is all I can use . I am not comfortable above or below

[@Anesth3s1A]

I have a 33 inch scale, 29 fret guitar. That behemoth felt more comfortable than a Kaizen. Never really thought so much about it but your points makes A LOT of sense. ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE TUNERS, PEOPLE CALLED ME TOO NITPICKY. I'd say price point is too high for the guitar to not feel 100% for the player. It is still an amazing instrument but, not for me. Glad I returned it asap. Great breakdown man!

[@kennytseguitar8574]

I think the only negative thing is way too expensive...I never knew Heimdall can play guitar so well

[@olivierpayette4284]

I mean it’s Musicman my dude, you pay for the quality

[@smokey04b53]

reminds me of a super-shredder version of Musicman's Albert Lee model!

[@johnnyxmusic]

Funny😉

[@Slothclawcolseslaw]

Vox made the SSC-33 and similar models in the 00’s that I believe had the body curved backwards subtly like that. They were actually pretty comfortable. No forearm contour though.

[@sauce_aux]

Fan fret seems to only really help out 7 strings and up, in my experience. Most 6 strings fare pretty well with standard fret layouts.

[@spenserphoenix]

The jack placement makes it almost unplayable sitting down. Also goes for 10k AUD here in Australia, very disappointing tbh. Neck and stability are good but nothing more than a high end Jackson/Ibanez which are a third of the price. You're paying for the logo and the fact Tosin designed this guitar imo.

[@chocolatecookie8571]

The sculpted back is the best feature which I would lilke to see other manufacturers pay attention to as well. The mutli scale and the tremelo is weird. Better would be no multi scale or 25-25.5. I think the tremelo doesnt hold the strings in tune well.

[@SkeledroMan]

I would like to see you try some of the john petrucci models. The sterling ones seem like some of the most comfortable guitars below the price of a strandberg. Also, wht do you think of the narrower string spacing of a music man vs the wider spacing on other guitars?

[@indianriffmaster]

Hope These Guitars Will Ever Come To India!!!!!!!😁

[@PavelGanzelinsky]

Being an owner of Kaizen 7, I want to note that Ernie Ball paid so much attention to the comfort of the instrument that it is not so even comfortable to play ))) it really took hours to get used to sit with the Kaizen and play stuff I played before ) But overall impression is good! The really made nice sounding and sick looking guitar. Just don’t compare it to other guitars.

[@DKOILive]

After spending few weeks with my knewly bought kaizen 7 stringer I actually can't get back to my other guitars, the neck on them feels absolutely wrong

[@FreddyGaming]

24.75 on the treble? Is this for kids, my fingers wont fit. There is no reason for 6 string fanfrent

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

“I’ve had this guitar against my body in several positions.” NSFW warning was not issued.

[@SOYUSE]

Most of the gauges are anbalanced for drop tunings, for exemple, I use 10-52 for drop C and it almost ok, but still a bit unbalanced. Balanced gauges for drop D don't exist at all, I guess it would be ok with 9-48 or 9-50. So, 24.75-25.5 looks interesting to solve the problem. Also, I should to point out, you have big hands, so you probably don't have the problems like this. P.S. When I saw the presentation of this guitar, I was shocked, imo this is a most disgusting guitar design ever, usually novice masters are making something like this.

[@dalepiwek]

Ive been building guitars since 96' u know what that makes me? An expert.....at being a geek 😭😂 i know u didnt ask but ill tell u what ive noticed. Anything other than 1-3/4" at the nut hinders me. Skinnier Gibson saddle spacing allows me to skip strings most naturally. I love small stainless frets but the boards gotta be scalloped. And funniest of all (u can call me crazy thats fine) out of 24-5/8, 24-3/4, 25, 25-1/2 and 26" scale the 24-3/4 sounds the best despite my liking the feel of the 25-1/2 the most. My solution? 3 extra degrees of neck tilt. It makes 10s fell as tight as 11s. I wish i could show u some of thd ax's ive made

[@GearStuffandThings]

The fan preference is just a balanced tension thing. With a slight fan it’s much less useful for sure

[@jimsgarage4937]

Fanned fret on a 6 strings guitar allow you to go with a bigger string gauge for instance, I use 11-56 Daddario, and i like to shred, on the last 3 strings the slinkier it it the better it is for me. Nice Video Bro !

[@honeybadger1810]

It’s worth a solid 2500. If it didn’t have the fanned fret, and regular tuners, it would be SUCH a sick metal shaped guitar.

[@wardelliot3102]

hey, so for the fan frets you must also take in consideration that it looks fcking sick. Now it kinda helps with .9 strings i guess but yeah, I'm sure it's manly for design, witch it not negligible, feeling cool objectively makes you play better but ya know, I'm a music nerd not a music expert..

[@jasongultjaeff9397]

A good, detailed review. At least you explained what you didn't like and tried to explain. I think it looks cool, nicer than the Abasi, but I'm fairly sure not for me :)

[@jhonpasquez6145]

One of these guitars made for a KZbinr fluff or some shit like that goes for over $3,000. Insane to go pay this much money for a guitar designed for somebody who has accomplished not much really as far as the music industry goes. My two cents.

[@Davix-tt9sh]

I've had a fanfret 8, and it was 25.5 to 27. I think that anything with less than 7 strings and less than 2inches in scale difference is quite useless as a fan fret. You get not much of a benefit while gettings all the cons: (can't use some pickups, in some cases you have to resort to either manually angle them, buy them custom angled or get one for n+1 number of strings) (can't change the nut with a normal one, you need a custom one because the angle varies wildly depending on scales used and parallel fret) (unless you really go with big scales like over 27.5 inches, the difference in tone and string tension in negligible, so it`s just a waste of money).

[@justsomerandomguyman]

I have a really hard time believing that this radius would make a guitar "unplayable" for anyone with decent technique. This comes across as clickbait to me.

[@ChrisBrown-oo4bf]

For me, because I play in the sit down classical position, the fan fret is a little more comfortable. Not a dealbreaker, just a personal choice.

[@williambratton2010]

There is a newer Ibanez s model that has the fan fret 6 string. It has a 25.5 to a PRS 25 inch scale, for me that that is the most comfortable fan on 6 string, you get that slinky ness from a prs and the chugging ability of a fender. Coupled with the thinner neck its just comfy to me.

[@justinvzu01]

My biggest issue is that it's a music man. Their guitars are always overpriced, and they don't do lefties. No production guitar should cost over $3k. I can get a base Aristides built for less than this guitar costs.

[@slowcreep6978]

I have never picked up and played a guitar that felt perfect. I chased that dragon for a long time. Maybe I'm just too poor. lol.

[@bennjaminfurtado3837]

The only reason I can think for the 24.9 scale is for an a high A string. For example a Devin Townsend tuning. Other than that I can't think of one.

[@ECL213]

Musicman guitars are just clunky feeling in general to me. The John Petrucci model made me feel like I have never played in my life. Ibanez all the way bb

[@realtruenorth]

Just curious, does Kaizen translate to "ugly as sin"? However, i dig the headstock.

[@hyperplayability6290]

One possible benefit of multiscale may be making stretching/certain chord voicings easier - I can't say for certain on guitar, but I definitely notice this on my multiscale bass Great in-depth review as usual!

[@ftx_arduous]

the radius messing with you sounds right, but personally i feel like adaping to it would be fine, just fine if everything else is nice... but im an infamous all rounder citizen.. idk ill be on my computer haha

[@allsic]

Tried it at guitar center... Didn't made me feel any... The Majesty is way better....

[@Nosferdamus]

I thought I was the only one who felt that guitar reviewers spend too long either noodling or using effects to accurately showcase the playability features which most guitarists are interested in. It almost got to the point where I was watching their hand movements rather than listening to how the guitar sounds, which when you are speaking about potentially purchasing an instrument based off of a video review, seems very backwards.

[@metalcoefan500]

They’re super ugly in my opinion and music man as always completely overpriced overrated

[@krokmiten]

I tune to Drop A, so I would only personally see the point of a fan fret guitar that goes from 25.5 to 26.5 or something like this. That would allow me to have a thinner Low A string instead of a thick 65.

[@stevenponce4893]

Best review yet. I believe (said this before) you make the best reviews, all the details makes me feel physically close to the instrument. It’s worth to mention that the script, the preparation and the passion are present on every vid. Thanks again Andre.

[@michaelheaton6925]

I'll never buy one because of the price, but I've played them at chicago music exchange and i dug it.

[@ericcotter1984]

These guitars have a huge offset for me, they look like made by a modern 3d printer and not by a CNC

[@nayr87]

I've said it before and I'll say it again,it looks like a complete ripoff of the Hamer impact bass

[@stephencshapiro]

I agree that multiscale makes less sense on a guitar than bass. If you want different tension, just change strings. A bass guitar needs a more even tones across the range, whereas the different tones among the strings is a feature of the guitar.

[@sirbaronvoncount4147]

Tosin is a talented guy but these new guitars do not speak to me. My heroes played catalogue guitars with fencing wire for strings

[@eddyray666]

Is it just me or does the aesthetic of the headstock not match the body at all?

[@andrefludd]

It’s a little strange now that you mention it. A bit to round for a triangular body guitar

[@eddyray666]

@@andrefludd Right? I like both... Just not together.

[@technickn9n3]

fanned frets do way more for bass, since they already make longer scale guitars more standard, and the longer high strings slinky as u mentioned, agree with you

[@jakelow6557]

I believe the problem lies in the fact that these were never meant to be 6 string guitars. I always see him playing 7 or 8 strings. The 6 string one seems like more of an afterthought to appeal to a mass market.

[@Nazman06]

Just get a $180.00 Kramer Baretta Special. Get a pro setup. There, you are good to go

[@havochowl6766]

Damn 4k is alot of money...better invest that money in Ibanez PIA

[@xamislimelight8965]

Thing still looks like a Final Fantasy weapon for a bard. A spoony bard.

[@lunamatic9775]

I've come to the conclusion that multi-scale just isn't for me, but I also don't play 7+ string guitars. I'd still love to check one of these out because they look so striking.

[@anthonythornhill8715]

Definitely not my personal style of guitar, but appreciate the review

[@off6848]

RIP to you if you try playing Trad Jazz on a multiscale.

[@HKTimbo]

Agree you don’t need a Multiscale neck on a six string but I built one into my custom made OD 6 string and I love it. It just feels like it flows more naturally for my fingers when I’m playing. I guess it’s a personal thing for each player. Great review 👏🏻

[@doodguy]

Not sure why anyone would play that reprehensible instrument.

[@Paroketh]

Totally agree on your example about guitars and cars reviews, watching someone shredding like a beast doesn’t tell me anything useful. Ps: Oathbreaker shirt? What a great band 😍

[@andrefludd]

I wish they had more music coming

[@altpath]

Hey...good output jack placement 😂 that's a plus

[@ph0kused]

All things aside not being able to switch out pickups killed it for me.

[@johndunham2237]

I will do you a hug favor just send it to me and I will love to play it. Keep up the vids love you stuff

[@johnmcminn9455]

"20 minute Adjustment period " to get used to a neck radius . So true

[@lordofdrones]

Why wouldn't they just put a hex hole in the middle of the tuners so you *could* use a tool if you wanted to?

[@omgdisfunny4852]

Getting a multiscale guitar forced me to completely change my hand position, and muting is so much more awkward now

[@OnemanShow-j4j]

For me the best thing about this guitar is the body shape, tuners and adapters!

[@levelpeggy5885]

This is what reviews should be like - in that it's actually a review.

[@simonpark843]

Thank you once again for an informative and well presented video. These guitars are outlandishly expensive here in Australia so I won't be trying one out, but it's always interesting to hear your detailed opinions and observations on this kind of high-end gear.

[@andrefludd]

Worst thing about Australia, bugs and import fees. But apart from that everything is perfect right? Lol

[@simonpark843]

@@andrefludd - very true...but you get used to the bugs.

[@kbuss10]

ok so in a nutshell: extremely overrated just like the guy they made it for...

[@Pannemat]

*cough* 21st Century Albert Lee *cough*