Don't Buy a Sire T3 or Sire T7 Until You See This

[@andrefludd]

A few quick things I did not mention: 0) After I filmed this video, a family member knocked the T7 off a stand causing a chip. I then decided to keep it since it’s damaged. SO if you see the T7 in other videos on the channel, I kept it ONLY because of the damage caused to it, not because I think it’s better. 1) I apologize for forgetting some of these finer points, but I wanted to get the video up as quickly as possible for those trying to make a choice. 2) Just because you spend 2,3 or even 4,000 on a guitar doesn't mean it will be great. In fact, check out my Mayones video. I have NO PROBLEM critiquing an expensive guitar harshly if it doesn't perform. 2.5) The reason I'm actually giving these guitars a chance is because I believe less expensive guitars can be great. These are fine guitars. 3) The T3 pickups are 100% higher output. I had to bring down the volume of the T3s a bit to match it so that the audio wouldn't clip. 4) The T3 is for sure heavier. Not unbearably so, but it is for sure noticeable. 5) The T7 has compensated Tele saddles so intonation shouldn't be particularly difficult.

[@CKS64]

Someone knock over my guitar is no longer a family member.

[@jazzsounds8159]

What is the neck measurement for the guitars at the 1st and 12th frets.

[@peterwilson8039]

@@CKS64 If it's a kid you don't have much choice. My niece scribbled with a pencil, all over the front of my sister's Hagstrom, some forty years ago. She was still a toddler at the time. My brother-in-law told me "It's your fault, you left it out." If you have kids in your house you might consider putting your guitars away when you're not using them.

[@jogmas12]

I looked up on the Sire web site for a lefthand T3 and sure enough they make available left handed T3 but the picture still shows it as a right handed guitar. Do you know why?

[@hadeseye2297]

@@peterwilson8039 My brother-in-law told me "It's your fault, you left it out." Well it was his fault. He is a parent that should look after a kid.

[@texanfournow]

Excellent video. You got straight to the point and made your preferences clear. And you didn't hide the guitars' tones behind a wall of distortion or other pedals. Well done!

[@rgcjac]

Great review, Andre. As a jazz player, it's refreshing to see a comparison without shredding up and down the fretboard. I am in the market for a T-type guitar and find it so much more beneficial to place value in a review from someone I respect. Thanks so much!

[@guitarzan0515]

You’ve put out a very fine and informative video. I like that you just gave us the clean tones of both!

[@andrefludd]

Thank you!

[@backlineguy]

I've been looking at the T3...listening to the T3...listening to folks playing the T3...is it me, or do you ALL agree this is a tremendous value? Quality tone, comfort, playability, construction, setup...you convinced me with the tone the middle position of the T3...I have to have one. Thanks, great job.

[@judeworth938]

T7 in a New York minute ! One thing you forgot to mention which is also nice about Sire guitars is the rolled fretboard edges. Very comfy...

[@vintagebikes4215]

Yours is the most intelligent, well organized guitar review video I've ever seen.

[@andrefludd]

Thank you :)

[@ChristopherOrth]

You are spot on about not putting much concern on the roasting of a neck. I mean, they didn't do it in the 50's but those guitars are still around and commanding WAY more money than they should! Also, necks aren't that expensive and you can just bolt on a new one. That's the point, but people forget.

[@andyhamlett8814]

Spending $3000 still doesn’t guarantee a flawless guitar

[@andrefludd]

10000% true.

[@PNWGuitar]

It's an odds game

[@bradleyclosson5042]

"Play authentic. Free flaws with every purchase." Gibson

[@clintwilson6380]

Shouldn't it tho?

[@BryanClark-gk6ie]

Pretty much does when you pay $1500.00 for one and pay a skilled luthier $1500.00.

[@Bryanpjc]

Great video. Thanks so much for playing those clean. It always irritates me when guys are doing tone comparisons (especially for Strat and Tele type things) and they use overdrive/distortion, thus making it a complete waste of time. Also, very efficient introduction and well thought out tone samples. I didn't have to skip a second of this video. First rate. Sub button hit immediately!

[@andrefludd]

Thank you :). (It also annoys me too, which is why I never do it).

[@autraumaton]

thank you so much for this video! i'm looking into buying my first electric guitar and heard about sire. your video comparison was by far the best and it was straight to the point. i really appreciate the time you took to compare them back to back and explaining certain things such as the roasting process, what exactly that does, etc. liked and subbed.

[@andrefludd]

Thank you :) Glad I could help

[@GaryonWheels]

Great Review, everything I was interested in and nothing that I wasn't. Thank you for playing them clean, I bought a T7 and it is coming today hopefully! I am an American expat in the Philippines, so the mail can sometimes be a bit iffy. Lots of praying lol. The T7 seems to sparkle =) I can hear the different notes clearly. It's easy to muddy a tone but it is impossible to clear up a muddy tone =( although I can see a place for the T3, I really prefer the T7. Honestly, though I've watched a ton of videos on both of them, and every one of the Influencers and almost all the commenters always say that the neck feels amazing, I can make any guitar sound the way I want, to me the most important thing is the playability, how it feels when I pick it up, I have 5 guitars and each serves it's own purpose, I have the H7 and I can tell you that it is fantastic, so I am hoping the T7 is just as good! The older I get, the more simple guitars are what I want =) I love the H7 but I am a full time wheelchair user and that big belly wants to hit the handrail of my wheelchair =( so T7 smaller and lighter and better to play in wheelchair! Philippines is fantastic for playing guitar. So many players here and they all will just invite you to jam or play with their family, because everyone can play something =) sorry for rambling lol Im wide awake too early and waiting on the mail =) i subscribed and look forward to more videos, thank you!

[@betterdays259]

This is precise and informative, loved your content man! My friend bought a T3 a few days ago and tried it. It doesn't sound like a budget guitar and I highly recommend it.

[@andrefludd]

Thank you I agree T3 is great!

[@timogronroos4642]

I felt the T7 had a much wider tonal range than the T3. You can always play with EQ to make T7 sound more like T3, but not the other way round. And personally, I prefer locking tuners. I would go with the T7. There are also better options for different colors, Fiesta Red or Arctic White for me :)

[@_rafael_b]

It's amazing how the most simple guitar can also be the most versatile. My tele that I was telling you about the other day has a more modern bridge with the individual saddles instead of the barrels. The intonation is just more precise this way. Both guitars in the video are good looking and both would do the job. If you did want to get a more expensive tele however, I would suggest taking a look at the Fender American Pro II. It's got a different contoured neck heel that allows easier access to the frets in the upper registers than the traditional neck heel. This line doesn't have the modern saddles anymore. They used to but switched back to the barrels in the last few years. I think you would appreciate the higher access though. Thanks for another cool video. Cheers Andre

[@andrefludd]

Thanks for the suggestion. I am really hoping to try some Fender guitars in 2023 so I'll keep that in mind!

[@TeleCaster66]

While I appreciate that 6 saddles intonate perfectly, I've tried a variety of compensated barrel saddles and they can intonate perfectly as well. Nothing wrong either way you go.

[@MoutchouPitchou95]

Veeeeerrrrrryyyyy good review. I discover your channel with this video. You got a new subscriber :) I like the way you present, I like the fact you give your opinion and tell what is important for you. I like you just play to make us hear the guitar sound and not to show how good you can "hero-play" it.... And the fact you did not add a distortion that usually makes guitars sound almost the same 😅 Keep it up ! Cheers from France !

[@andrefludd]

Thanks for the support. Yea it always annoys me when I’m watching a guitar review and they go “here’s how it sounds in a mix.” Well yea, everything sounds good in a metal mix 😂

[@localman3834]

Cheap guitars are the best! None of my guitars cost more than $500 when I bought them, but I’ve learned so much about dialing in my setup and upgrading/replacing parts, plus I leave them laying around all the time so super convenient to pick up and play. I think everyone should own at least one

[@andrefludd]

Agreed! That’s what I did for years before I ever bought an expensive guitar

[@Jordan.levesque]

Nice review! To me the T7 sounded far better; clear, crisp. The T3 sounded almost muddy, and like it wouldn't cut through in a mix. If they were the same price, the only reason I might choose the T3 would be if I was primarily a jazz player. Just my thoughts! Thanks!

[@Prajnana]

I agree with you, much preferring the T7s articulation. The T7 had a mid and high end shimmer (both pups) that the T3 lacked. The T3 has a mahog body whereas the T7 is alder, hence the weight and tonal differences (brass saddles on the T7 probably make a diff., too). EQ can tweak the tone 'somewhat', but you can't add articulation to a muddy pup.

[@RobRice-so5nv]

That's what I thought, muddy vs. crisp and defined, which is what I'd pick up the Tele for.

[@guitareMTL]

Yep, the T7 is obviously better, clearer. Roll off the tone knob and you'll likely get the fatter (muddy?) tone of the t3.

[@Jordan.levesque]

@@guitareMTL Exactly!

[@wolfgangritter9277]

I agree, I actually thougt the T7 sounded more like a "classic" Tele with a slightly "harsher" bridge pickup. But that's maybe due to the bridge construction. It might be just a very, very slight difference, but I think the double saddle sound different because even when only picking one string, there seems to be some resonance to the other string, because they share a saddle. Anyway, both guitars seem good value for the price. I'd probably go for the T7 when looking for a traditional Tele sound, whereas the T3 would be my choice for any starter looking for a well-crafted and versatile guitar to cover different styles.

[@kzgiorgos]

To me, the T3 sounds muffled, not fatter. I much prefer the sound of the T7. By the way, I have a V7 bass which is very good.

[@andrefludd]

Fair enough!

[@MoutchouPitchou95]

Same feeling here. I feel the T3 more .... Let's say... Muddy. I prefer the cristal sound of the T7.

[@playboimarty]

See I agree but it’s miles better than teles at the same price so I’m team t3

[@bluwng]

He swapped the audio files on both. So in reality your preference is for the T3.

[@dalehaines8598]

Maybe the different body and fretboard woods are reasons for the tone difference. Initially I thought it has to be pickups as I thought they were the same, but it looks to me based on the specs they are different.

[@c.j.robert5350]

I remember hearing Jeff Healey rip this crazy solo in concert...came to find out that he was legally blind, and that his guitar of choice was a regular Squier, with red Evans pickups. Being blind MAYBE has prevented him from hooking at the hype manufactured around certain brands and models...i don't know... But i know i love playing my Majesty 7 as much as i love playing my old, stripped down 90's Yamaha 721DM that i had my tech put back together. Different feel, sound and attention to details, but still both a lot of fun to play. Great video Andre!

[@andrefludd]

Thanks CJ. FYI, I still need to watch One Piece. Big Naruto fan and I know Everyone says OP is better haha.

[@c.j.robert5350]

@@andrefludd ...😂😂😂...i confirm...but like for guitars, you'll need to decide that for yourself!! 😉

[@Ghinini]

Love your videos man. Even as someone who doesn’t know too much about guitars, it’s really helpful and insightful.

[@andrefludd]

Glad to hear it!

[@mitch_smith]

Man, that was a quality review. I appreciate the use of your opinion but the clarification that it's specific to your situation. Opinions aren't necessarily the rule and in this case, I really liked them both. Amazing what is coming out of china/indonesia these days.

[@DamianS1893]

I like the look of both. The T7 sounds more definitive and with clear chime. I appreciate your comparison review. I'm considering the T7.

[@andrefludd]

Thanks for watching!

[@Shaner_BSC]

Yeah, definitely like the T7's sound more.

[@johnmarolakos9920]

Yup! Much clearer chime from the T7 over the T3, especially when playing chords. Harmonically notes ring much clearer on the T7. I'm going for the T7.

[@heavyjoechipman3594]

I'd say the T3 sounds a little more balanced. The T7 has more of a mid presence. T3 looks more traditional but very nice. T7 is a cool hot rod. I like both. Glad I found your channel. Happy pickin'! Subscribed☺❤🎸👍

[@andrefludd]

Thanks for sharing!

[@pickersgrip]

Great review Andre!

[@RickMcCargar]

Thanks for the review. I have an American Professional Strat with roasted maple neck, jumbo frets, ash body, custom shop .69 pups. It was a sweetwater exclusive. I love the extra resonance I get in the rm neck. Something I never noticed on the dozens of other strats I've owned. I'm sold on the idea, but in the case of the T7...I never cared for gloss fretboards. I had a couple of Rickenbackers, and the gloss fretboards are just too sticky for my comfort.

[@NMbass906]

Haven't tried their guitars but I can definitely say the basses compete with Squier/Epi/Ibanez very handily! If I were going to recommend one for a starter bass I'd be hard pressed not to say Sire.

[@andrefludd]

Glad to see they are good for basses too!

[@Murphmonster69]

Gonna buy one of their J basses

[@andersg9451]

@@Murphmonster69 You won´t regret it. I have two of them.

[@andersg9451]

I think they outcompete the Fender MIM:s !!

[@joetowers4804]

There's a video comparing different components between a Suhr Tele and a diy kit tele. When the electronic components were the same, it was really hard to say one sounded better than the other.

[@andrefludd]

Yep. Imo you are really paying for the skill of the builder more so than anything. And for me, that skill of the builder impacts the feel of the guitar/the comfort, not so much the tone. Magnetic pickups aren’t that complicated technologically speaking.

[@brotherwind5015]

Thank you for this great review Clean sound comparison and straight up. I pre ordered a T3 but keep looking at the T7. Your video helped me tremendously to stick with my original thought, T3. It definitely sounds more tele. I have a Squire strat and the T7 sounded similar to me. So thanks for the straight comparison of the two sounds I'm more acoustic but wanting to improve my electric sound. Subscribed. I also really enjoy my firefly with those humbuckers. They've come so far in modern guitars they don't need to be a fortune to sound good and have fun. Which amp seems more of a problem for me. Thank you again for a great comparison. It really helped!

[@friscoliv]

Nice video. Thanks for the info, was looking at both of these guitars so very useful.

[@DownToEarthMind]

finally a channel that provides detailed insights and a real evaluation.

[@andrefludd]

I do my best.

[@joeporter4616]

I was browsing and picked up a Harley Benton Tele-copy, best neck ever and I know that's subjective, but it really fits my hands. I'm not a pro player, just a hobbiest, but I cut my teeth on telecasters and Les Pauls. It's a shame when Harley Benton can get a neck, "Just Right" and the big Guys can't seem to.

[@andrefludd]

I still have to try HB in 2023.

[@Frank-in-NY]

This is first I've seen of the new T3, really appreciate your overview and comparison to the T7. All I can say is WOW! $399! This has to be a Squier killer. Rosewood Fretboard! Fender charges a fortune for Rosewood on their necks. What a terrific value. Just a word on non-roasted maple necks. When I was 15 my parents gave me a brand new 1966 Fender Jazzmaster. I still play that Jazzmaster today. Nothing has ever been done to the neck, no truss rod adjustments, no fret sprout, it's perfect. And 50 years from now, some kid will still be playing this fine instrument. Good video Andre!

[@andrefludd]

Thank you! Def a great guitar for the money

[@peterwilson8039]

Many manufacturers stay away from rosewood for sustainability reasons as opposed to cost. I was surprised to see that my Yamaha Pacifica has a rosewood fretboard. It looks much nicer than the laurel fretboard on one of my Affinity teles. On the other hand it feels hard and smooth, much like maple, so I would expect that there wouldn't be much difference between playing a rosewood fretboard as opposed to a maple fretboard. I do like maple. In general, I wouldn't expect to have any trouble with any neck on a modern guitar, although a couple of my guitars bought new, required fretwork to make them playable.

[@Frank-in-NY]

@@peterwilson8039 I have a Squier Paranormal Telecaster, it has a beautiful maple neck with a maple cap, no skunk stripe. I also have a reissue 65 Jazzmaster. Neck feels great, however the fret sprout is terrible. I can say inexpensive guitars have come a long way from when I was a kid.

[@peterwilson8039]

@@Frank-in-NY I also have a Squier Paranormal Telecaster. I really like it.

[@cantstopplayingmusic]

Thanks for sharing you experience!

[@andrefludd]

Thank you!

[@ronkresch9228]

Great video...what do you think about the new Powers Electric guitars?

[@scottyecora]

Very interesting point of view! I think that I'll choose the T3, as i do not care for locking tuners and prefer the strat type bridge. About the T3 being "fatter", I suspect that it's the result of a "cheaper" lutherie : in my experience, high end instruments sound thinner than cheap ones because their sound is actually more defined, and usually sits better in a mix.

[@sidestyle05]

Just discovered the channel, love the gear reviews. I like how you went into this one with very little research, which didn't give you the chance to develop an opinion in advance . What we get then is a pretty instinctive and unvarnished response you don't often see on KZbin. Plus, since you clearly are a little obsessive-compulsive and also have a taste for expensive craftsmanship, you really zero in on the fine details of what the reviewed guitar offers you personally as a player in a way that is uncompromising and also unique and appreciated. Can't wait to see more

[@andrefludd]

That’s exactly what I wanted to do! Thank you. I’m glad you enjoyed the video, Mark.

[@norseman61]

I’ve got the exact T7 from your video, and it almost breaks my heart just to put it down and walk out of the room! I’m sure that T3 is a beauty as well. Until your video, I wasn’t even aware there WAS a T3!

[@andrefludd]

That’s exactly why I rushed out the video. No one on KZbin has even covered the T3 so far (in English, I believe there are a couple Spanish language videos)

[@norseman61]

@@andrefludd Aah, so you got the scoop. Well done!

[@peterwilson8039]

Great video. I have two telecasters, one has a vintage bridge, and the other has a modern bridge. With the vintage bridge I find that when I bring my palm down on the bridge to cut off sustain on a chord, it doesn't work as well because of the bridge's 'sardine can' shape. The other issue with the vintage bridge, is that the person who set it up cocked the bass saddle at an angle, which results in the low E string sliding off the neck very easily. I'm going to fix that one day dammit - one day it's going to happen! I think the vintage accoutrements plus the sticky finish makes the classic vibe tele a little less desirable, and that might cause me to consider spending a bit more money for a player-series telecaster. Of course this video might influence me to look at the Sire T3.

[@ravenbom]

I'm glad you mentioned the T7 sounding more like a Strat because that immediately jumped out at me too. Not a bad thing, actually sounds like a good Strat too. Just probably not why you'd buy a Tele style guitar. I have one of their Jazz Bass style basses and been trying to get one of their guitars for a while now. The bass is also a lot brighter and cleaner than the equivalent Fender. Almost picked up the H7 but I've tried 2 in Guitar Center and they have that weird narrow nut that Larry has on his main 335. (Which is spec correct for that one or two years for the 335). The H7 was great, but felt like a Mustang or Jaguar or Duo Sonic and other short scale guitars and not for me with that neck.

[@andrefludd]

Okay some I’m not crazy? The T3 def sounded more tele to me.

[@andreasvet4461]

I don't even think it's close. The T3 just has all the classic Tele sound but the T7 does seem to be into that strat territory. Once you pointed it out I couldn't stop hearing it

[@pauloevans7180]

I just bought the t3 after returning the fender telecaster player series. Seri is much more comfortable and affordable. Now I have extra money to buy a better amp such as yamaha THR 30ii for example 👍

[@WorshipShed]

First time watcher and I enjoyed this

[@lunamatic9775]

Great video! The T3 sounded fatter through my headphones. Out in the wild I have yet to see any other Sire model than the semi-hollow. I'll keep an eye out for this one. You mentioned looking at the sub-$300 basic Squiers. Did you consider looking at their more expensive price range? Their Classic Vibe series goes above $400 now.

[@andrefludd]

Yes, I def will in the future. The GC I stopped by didn’t have any on the floor

[@Nisa-e8t]

Hey Andre, do you have any comments on the action?? I like a low action. Have you tried different actions?

[@daw162]

You're right on the bodies - two piece bodies are a big cost savings over one piece, and three are a savings over 2. Lumber, especially clear lumber, is sold at a much lower cost in narrow boards. Once you get clear wood 7-8"+ from a supplier (big enough to make a two piece body), you'll get upcharged. It can be pretty stiff, too depending on the market. people get wound up about a statement I'm about to make - but in a $700 guitar, there really isn't that much profit, so even seeing a nice clear two piece body is good. In a $450 guitar that can be returned for almost any reason, there's very little room for error, too. If the body cost difference between the two is $5 to the manufacturer, there's probably 10 other things that are $5 different and it matters.

[@andrefludd]

Thanks for adding some numbers to my assumption that's very helpful!

[@electrikjam7661]

I reviewed the entire Sire lineup last year, and I was blown away. The "Strat" models that are HSS absolutely blow the Fender Player's Series out of the water. 100%. They are just better. I don't care where guitars are made, and it doesn't matter. "Made In USA" means nothing in most of the world. My favorite guitars have all been from South Korea and Japan. Funny how people will drink the Kool Aid though. I toured with a Squier '51 for years, there's tons of pictures of me using it on stage (when I played guitar and didn't just sing) and my other guitar at the time was an American Tele. Night after night, I would start the set with the Squier. Eventually, the TELE BECAME THE BACKUP! From 2006-2007 that entire tour cycle, it's the Squier in my pictures and press photos. Why? Because it was just a great guitar. I bought the Squier in the Hollywood Guitar Center for $99 out the door. All I added was locking tuners.

[@andrefludd]

I've also seen MANY guys on tour with Squiers and even more with Epiphones. A great guitar is a great guitar period.

[@SMGeezus]

the t3 sounds just a touch more warm on the neck, and a tad brighter on the bridge. Both of which i’m a fan of!

[@samuelnerick]

I think the T3 has his own personality, also it's wonderful the fact of the Mahogany body and Rosewood fretboard... The lack of locked tuners is not a problem at least for me. For the price it's a great axe with a wonderful tone.

[@obijuan3004]

You made a perfect comment. They are both close enough that its down to the taste of the player. I would like to play each one to see how they feel.

[@Sternodox]

Thanks so much for this review. My new T3 will be here tomorrow. Can't wait to plug it into my Orange Crush!

[@andrefludd]

Awesome, congrats on the next axe!

[@ajohnhayes]

Hey Andre! Thank you so much for the review - I love your approach to these videos, and I appreciate your honesty and comprehensiveness. You mentioned upgrading the T3 with locking tuners; I don't suppose you'd know if any 6L tuning machines would work? I'm thinking about grabbing the T3, and then some Gotoh MG-T locking tuners to go on it, but I'd like to get some idea of if they'd fit first.

[@andrefludd]

Hey, I wish I could be of help but I didn't change the tuners. I don't want to speculate and give you bad info! You may consider checking which locking tuners are used on the T7 and if you can figure that out, you will know the dimensions! Good luck!

[@ajohnhayes]

@@andrefludd Appreciate the response!

[@andrew6889-p5c]

I personally think Sire has done an amazing job figuring out how to make a high-quality neck and guitar body. What they produce is as good as most normal players could ever want. I think they should release a model with amazing pickups and electronics and save people the cost and hassle of using them as a mod platform. Imagine they had a premium tier loaded with lollar pickups and high-quality pots and jack. That guitar would probably be better than a USA fender and would sell an absolute ton. I’d buy one (or more). A sire tele witk two lollar humbuckers would be incredible.

[@andrefludd]

I like your hh tele idea.

[@MegaTerryNutkins]

I gigged a Sire V7 5 string bass (1st gen) for years, only recently sold it. It was a huge statement in terms of a budget active Jazz with a killer neck and a gigworthy preamp, nothing came close at the time. Great low B too. The 2nd gen ones have significantly better pickups and reduced weight. I thought the T7 sounded better in those clips btw, just had a bit more clarity for me.

[@andrefludd]

Yea it seems like everyone is pretty much enjoyed the T7 more. I’m always the odd man out haha

[@bluestudio67]

I'm just happy we have affordable high quality options these days.

[@Vedant-km2cg]

I checked a t3 out at a store here in India. The fretboard is insane, so smooth

[@thadstuart8544]

man that was a great comparison. ive been looking for an inexpensive T style to do my first relic job on. i think ill order the T3 in vintage white and distress the body. thanks!

[@digipeet2866]

the s3 will be my back up one..i love it..thank you for the review!😊

[@bobneaves3797]

The sire T7 telecaster guitar you show is identical guitar to a telecaster guitar made by AXL guitars (not now in productioin) called a 'Player Deluxe'. If you are lucky to get hold of of AXL 'Player Deluxe' guitars both Telecasters and Stratacaster 'Player Deluxe' models you will see they top qualit guitars.

[@ekisoderqvist]

It's cool that you said the T7 sounds more stratty, that was my thoughts exactly. But I think it had a nice clarity that would sound better in a mix, whether live in a band situation or in a recording. That said, if I'd get either one of these, I'd still end up changing the pickups to fenders or lollars or similar. Just recently bought a jet js400 and modded it into the perfect strat for me. At these prices, I don't think the T3 can compete with the cheaper jet ts300, apart from maybe a better bridge and the neck heel carve. (assuming the neck is as comfortable as the js400 which everybody says it is) The locking tuners and neck heel carve might just tip me in the favor of the T7. Pickups and pots are something I swap out immediately anyways on a budget or medium price guitar.

[@Scordato]

Loved the video! very clear and precise. I just bought a T7 (I already have a H7 CS, great instrument!!!) and... let's see 😉

[@1scooterpilot1]

Happened to come across you channel while on YT. Like the way you approach the comparison of the T7 vs T3. (I subscribed to your channel.) I like your review so much I'm considering a T3. Presently I have the Fender American Pro II Tele which I'm very, very happy with!

[@andrefludd]

If you are in the Us send me an email Andrefluddmusic gmail. The T3 is for sale, I’d give you a subscriber discount :). Thanks for the support!

[@davidmahoherrezuelo]

I love the T3 Tone for Chickin' Pickin' stuff and Blues Fullpower... I love the "dark" sound. Thanks for the demo

[@biglutherie]

Very nice comparison video!

[@samuelnerick]

I found this video recently and i all i can say is: i like how it looks the T3 more than the T7... About the sound, i like both, but the dark sound of the T3 give it personality i think... It's wonderful the fact of the Mahogany body, maple neck and Rosewood fretboard... For that price i surely go with the T3... I can change the tuners later. Nice video

[@scottbecker3485]

Came here as a acoustic-only player whose been eyeing the T7 (as my first electric guitar, to add color to some of my rockier sets of covers), left as a very impressed subscriber - and a potential T3 buyer. :-) Love your informative and astute delivery and obvious experience. Didn‘t have a clue what else you tout on your channel, but decided to follow you just because you‘re you. ;-) Looking forward to the T3, which should be easier to „sell“ to my wife since it‘s cheap(er). ;-) P.S. I never had locking tuners, so will likely not miss them. And the same goes for a glossy fingerboard.

[@andrefludd]

Glad I could help Scott and thanks so much for the support. I have a bunch of acoustic guitars I want to compare as well. Hopefully I can get to that soonish :)

[@scottbecker3485]

@@andrefludd Super cool that you‘re also going to be covering some acoustic guitars. :-)

[@Prajnana]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but a word of advice from personal experience. Buy the guitar that fits your budget, BUT don't buy down because you think you're saving money. For most of us, a guitar is not a long term investment (in this price range). Sooner or later (sooner) another, and more expensive beauty will catch your eye, and you'll end up selling the present one at a significant loss. I know! No matter what you get now, eventually you'll crave for something different. But at least you can eliminate one intermediate sale by buying the best one you can currently afford now. 😂

[@scottbecker3485]

@@Prajnana Thanks for your advice. As an owner of several high-end acoustics, I understand your point very well. I have also bought and sold and bought many guitars over the decades. But for me, having an electric guitar is not so much about getting the best, but getting something useable to add some different flavors to my solo acoustic performances. In the end, I neither got the T7 nor the T3, but rather opted for a hybrid in my price range: the Michael Kelly Hybrid Special. Not the best of all worlds, but a good jack of most trades. It needs effects added to get the acoustic sounds to be passable, but I have a great pedalboard. :-) At any rate, with twin toddlers to take care of and having lost my job due to C., I‘m happy to spend less than grand for such a versatile instrument and just get the job done, i.e. gigging a wide variety of covers. One day I might get a tele, since I love its sound a lot, but now I‘m fine.

[@fatmike1]

Great review. Truly enlightened by that T3 tone. T7 neck is beautiful in my opinion, but now I'm going for the T3 definitely. Thanks!

[@scou1597]

to me the T3 sounds alot darker and a bit muffled too. I am currently using some pretty shoddy speakers though, so im definitely not hearing what you are. Glad i found your channel.

[@andrefludd]

Yea a lot of other people said they prefer the T7 as well, I guess it’s just me who likes the darker sound.

[@scou1597]

@@andrefludd you and Lee Anderton Hahaha. That's the beauty of guitar though. Preferring the sound of a cheaper instrument is a win in my book

[@theguitarprofessionals8584]

How does the 450 dollar one compare to a Fender Mexican when they were 450 dollars new? circa 2007

[@andrefludd]

I couldn’t tell you. I never had a Mexican tele. Sorry, wish I could help

[@theguitarprofessionals8584]

@@andrefludd No worries!!!! I have three of them... they are 850 now new, I didnt know what 400 extra compares to benefit is all.

[@soofitnsexy]

mexican kills these

[@SammyKaytoo]

Awesome review of the their traditional T series. please review the S7 and the T7 FM? :)

[@andrefludd]

I will try!

[@keithb5612]

Hey Andre. I was looking at the T7 after I purchased the Sire S7 HSS... I swapped out the S7 Pickups as I really wasn't happy with them. . I opted for a Fret King (Trev Wilkinson brand) model however instead of the Sire T7. Check Fret King out if you get the chance. The new Strat and Tele type Fret King models have a lot of tonal options with the patented VariCoil pot knob and pickup configurations specific to this brand. They even have "ghost single coils" placed under the visible single coil pickup on some models. Some interesting features there. Keep up the great work. Cheers

[@andrefludd]

Thanks!

[@andresmanuelgonzalezgomez9487]

Was debating which of the two I should buy, but you got me, T3 incoming!

[@celsopereiramagalhaesjr3216]

Really great guitars , and great customization platforms. Put really nice pickups and good locking tunners , they are world beaters.

[@archeryandstuffwithstevela3423]

Deciding factors for me, would be feel and sound. Six saddle bridges, aren’t necessarily better than the vintage style. I’m switching back to vintage on my Tele, I feel it sounds more Tele like. Intonation can be adjusted perfectly or closer than most of us can hear with the new compensated Tele bridges. Sometimes perfect intonation will result in deviations, elsewhere on the fretboard. So it might be necessary to temper the intonation settings for a more pleasing overall result. This can happen with six saddle bridges too.

[@andrefludd]

Thanks for sharing.

[@Gitfiddle]

One of my favorite guitars I ever owned was a Fender FSR Strat. It had a sculpted heel joint and 2 Dimarzio humbuckers. Bought it on sale for $400. Cheap doesn’t always mean bad. There are jems out there for little money.

[@andrefludd]

Agreed!

[@mkrj2576]

Thanks for the great review. I've got a very superficial question to ask... the T7, can you get a black pickgaurd for it? Either from Sire or will a Fender pick guard fit?

[@andrefludd]

It looks like the shape of a regular pickguard and if not, you can always trace it and send it off to a company. It will cost less than $50 to get it made. Thanks for the comment.

[@user-zn6gz4ub7w]

The T3 has a mahogany body. The T7 body is alder. The T3 has ceramic pickups and the T7 has alnico V pickups. about the tuners. I own the Sire S3. I can use my tremolo bar without going out of tune even though I do not have locking tuners. The reason I can do that is because the tuners on the T3 and S3 are the same and they are geared to a very low ratio. You have to turn the tuners almost 50 times to turn the string peg one round. I turn my tuners with an electric screw driver.

[@GreggBennett-j3p]

Excellent presentation. Thank you. Regarding the sound, this owner of multiple teles through the years felt the neck pickup on the T3 exhibited the muddiness I dislike about some Tele neck pickups. It was unpleasant sounding, for me.

[@ritwikghosh2438]

The sound difference is basically because of the wood of the fretboard. Rosewood fingerboards always sound a little bit fatter and on the other side maple fingerboards sound more punchy and take overdrive and distortion very well. Really it comes down to personal preference and in my choice, the T7 sounds good for what I play.

[@andrefludd]

Agreed!

[@stroopwafel6141]

@@andrefludd I think the T3 mahogany body might add to this as well.

[@bassyey]

Great toanwoods.

[@7387470]

Thanks for the review. I really was worried about buying the cheapest guitar. I've done that before and had to spend three times the money to get it right.

[@andrefludd]

No problem!

[@deckert618]

To me, the individual saddles on the T3 bridge are so superior that it's not even a contest. Love your channel! Just discovered you a couple weeks ago, and you offer a very different perspective to an old 80s metalhead like myself.

[@andrefludd]

Thanks for the support!

[@daw162]

The inexpensive Musiclily type bridges like that are usually pretty decent, but you can find some from time to time where the individual saddles will move a bit while you're playing. Far better than cheap les paul style bridges, though, and usually stamped steel instead of the gritty soft pot metal in les paul style cheap parts. Expensive strat and tele bridges aren't always trouble free, though, either. Compensated saddles like on the T7 are fine, though, even if you're into metal. Uncompensated may not be quite so easy to get along with.

[@guitarman6742]

Well said !!

[@worthmoremusic]

I just purchased the new T7TV thin line...beautiful guitar. However....The 7 series offer far more appointments than the 3 series. The 7 series offers staggered locking tuners, compensated brass saddles, bone nuts and of course rolled fret edges...with roasted maple necks. The ONLY things the 3 series offer is the rolled fret edges. There in lies the $200-250 difference.

[@PoliBoneless]

Great, Great video comparison, yo!!!!!! If you could do a revie os the new S3 model (the same one as this tele, but a Strat), It would be awesome!!! Keep rocking!!

[@andrefludd]

Thank you! Maybe in 2023

[@WilliamJOHNSONJR]

I have a T 7 and love it. I think the T3 will be a killer too ! But my Fav "Low End Tele" , is the Harley Benton TE 52 . My take on Teles is the HB for all Teles < $1,000, and the T 7 for all Teles > $1,000 I believe you are missing the point on the neck roasting ... It is NOT appearance (or feel) as both are fantastic. BUT STABILITY ! By that , I mean where I live the Mid-Western US Winters being fiercely cold and dry... You get fret sprout, where the maple used , is not allowed to cure and dry (a period of years) before being pressed into manufacture to tackle todays mad demand ! Both the HB and the Sire have roasted necks. But the HB claims "caramelized" , and is lighter in color The Sire ... is "roasted" , and much darker. Both are Baby Booty smooth, and feel great. BUT the caramelized HB's neck ... DID shrink a bit over the winter, and exhibited very mild fret sprout The Sire ? NO shrinkage whatsoever. Now in the same period I copped a Fender Player Mustang (maple neck) and in the summer /fall... It too was BB smooth. But by February it shrank like a SOB ! Shrank waay more than the $200 Harley Benton TE 52, with its "caramelized " neck So roasting, is probably a good insurance policy against shrinkage /fret spout Fender will sell you a MIM Strat roasted neck for $300 (more than the HB, and half the cost of the Sire) BTW , Sire probably glosses the fretboard for the same reasons as Fender (appearance ?) BUT the back of the neck is SATIN ... for the sweaty hands guys

[@RobRice-so5nv]

The T7 is way under $1000.

[@WilliamJOHNSONJR]

Dude ... I have one. I know. What I am saying, is that the T7 is comp for Teles that cost $1K buck and up ! @@RobRice-so5nv

[@RobRice-so5nv]

@@WilliamJOHNSONJR well, if the T7 is better than the HB, it should be the top one under $1000, not over $1000.

[@WilliamJOHNSONJR]

Its not worth explaining. But I do have both guitars ...@@RobRice-so5nv

[@TeleCaster66]

The brass bridge saddles on the T3 might account for the sound being a little more spongy. I know when I've experimented with my Telecaster that's what I get.

[@dlmyrs]

Very nice. Never thought of looking at Sire before. Great review.

[@andrefludd]

Thank you!

[@stevenrae3841]

Recently discovered your channel and I'm really enjoying going through all your video's, great content! I was wondering if you have any thoughts on 7 and/or 8 string guitars, I would certainly be interested in hearing them. Cheers!

[@andrefludd]

I'll talk about this in an upcoming video. In short, I've tried them both. I love when others play them, but I cant make them useful for my style personally.

[@t3hgir]

@@andrefludd you need a 7 string archtop with flats :D

[@kingstumble]

The T3 definitely has a warmer sound which I prefer. This could be partly due to the mahogany body whereas the T7 is alder I believe. I have no idea if they use different pickups.

[@andrefludd]

They don’t use the same pickups. I learned afterward

[@andersbarfodsvaneskolan9378]

THe T7 has low output alnico 5 pickups. Very clear and bright.. The T3 has slightly hotter ceramic pickups. Ceramic pickups tend to have less top end. a bit of a generalization but that how I hear it.

[@seancollins5819]

Lucky for me I just scored a T7 FM for $200. I don't know why the guy didn't bond with it. It's holding well so far

[@monmixer]

That's what I'm thinking, locking tuners on the S7 but you do know the heights are staggered on the tuners because there is no string tree. I was wondering if Sire sells the staggered locking tuners or who would?

[@andrefludd]

I’m not sure.

[@monmixer]

@@andrefludd I meant putting lockers tuners on the S3. Not the S7. sorry. Since you didn't know you do now. the tuners are staggered in height in pairs. a bit shorter every pair.

[@MrMfalzone]

Do these guitars require sire tuning machines? I clearly dont know much about guitars but I’m learning. I know they don’t have string trees… is that due to the tuners or the cut of the headstock? Silly question I know. Bare with me.

[@simonpark843]

There's a definite difference in the two guitars - it comes down to preference but the difference is audible. For me, the weight of a guitar is a big deal so the one that's lightest will always be the one I'll prefer.

[@andrefludd]

Fair point!

[@oza8578]

I like the simplicity of the T3. I wonder how it compares to the Squier Classic Vibe 50's or 60's. I really like the Squier Classic Vibe series, but I find the body on the 50s are generally heavy (9-10 lbs) but have a pretty good feeling neck, whereas the 60s Custom Tele model has a VERY thin neck (which I don't like). I wonder how these Sires compare in terms of feeling.

[@andrefludd]

I would also like to try the classic vibe for an extended period.

[@meldeer6253]

well very nicely done but i like the sound of the T7 it to me sounded more crisp like a tele, the T3 sounded muddyer but thats my opinion .. im still on the fence AIO has some T style maybe you could get one of them and compair it . they are based out in calaforina like 3 or 4 guys setting them to your specks .. nice review thank you so much

[@sudhakartamang1792]

Thanks for the video ..I think t3 tone is much fatter than t7 .. t3 can be good for jazz though… how about the fretboards ? Is it the same or ? …any idea about t7 fm ? Am planning to buy one

[@andrefludd]

The T7 has gloss on the plain maple. Rosewood doesn't for the T3.

[@dustdevilz4771]

I don’t care about the roasted neck but I prefer the bridge with six individual string saddles which help with intonation. I’d say for me anyway the T 3 would my preference. I don’t like the shape of the headstock, oh well. Great review

[@FujiBou]

I'm primarily a guitarist but I have a fretless 4 string and a regular 4 string sire bass that I REALLY enjoy, especially for the price point. The fretless in particular probably has the nicest ebony board I've had on any instrument, I'll probably end up buying the same bass in a 5 string version soon- I'd highly recommend, the ebony boards esp!

[@andrefludd]

Thanks for that. I’m actually considering a bass just so I can record some nice backing tracks.

[@FujiBou]

@@andrefludd you can definitely find a decent sire in the 5-700 range, I'm convinced they can't be beat but I'm highly biased and haven't tried out that many other brands so I wouldn't know. Definitely something you can consider though 🤙

[@meanmr.mustard]

Hi Andre, After watching and enjoying some of your video's, I would like to give you one advice that would make your channel even more professional. More close micing, less room sound on the voice. 👍🏻

[@andrefludd]

Thanks!

[@montyellingsworth4982]

the T3 sounds darker and less.. clear but sounds good. Thanks for the video. I had to subscribe because you are doing a good Job. If I could get a t 3 I would rather have one of those because of the bridge. I don't mind the locking tuners but I don't have to have them.

[@monmixer]

Are the fret marker luminaires? If the S7 offered a rosewood board I would buy it. Considering the S3 because the fretboard is rosewood.

[@andrefludd]

I don’t Rememebr sorry

[@SuperOhdannyboy]

A little of topic but since it is a telecaster model, what do you think of the G&L Classics vs Tribute models? Thank you in advance.

[@andrefludd]

Never tried it

[@АндрейПолевой-я5и]

Hi. Are this guitars was seted up before comparing? I mean, to yighten every screw, set pickups heights and so on... Because sound of guitar changes dramatically after that

[@andrefludd]

They are setup pretty similarly, but I'd never say perfectly.