The Wasted Potential of Leafy

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CREDITS:
Andrei Terbea - Lead Animator
Stefan Popa - Assistant Animator
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After Leafy got banned on KZbin (and apparently just recently on Twitch), the situation has given rise to a lot of opinions - some happy, celebrating his takedown, some cautious about him being deplatformed, urging everyone to think twice before they pop their champagne. While there's reasonable arguments on both sides, today we take a look at why neither side is completely in the right, which arguments got lost in translation, and why when we draw the line, the whole thing is a giant waste of potential.

[@gonb2404]

What's the point of a separate youtube kids app if they're just gonna demonetize videos with swearing here

[@astrwrld8770]

Big fax bruh

[@uncledaniel6483]

Well, swearing isn't the only non-kid friendly stuff we have on youtube

[@moonlit7273]

Shit you’re right lmao Yo actually isn’t it cause a lot of underage kids prefer watching KZbin but then that got out of hand? Then again, it’s the parents that are being irresponsible lol

[@moonlit7273]

Vicenzo Leon Simatupang 1328014 I guess so

[@tactful6908]

top 10 questions science can't answer

[@PhantomDogman]

KZbin trying to be ad friendly but ads themselves aren't ad friendly.

[@hammy0756]

so true

[@chimichanga3]

Ya

[@Malel_]

PhantomDogman yeah like the ads that use lots of booty in the video

[@killjoy1996]

I agree

[@rollcakecookie7189]

I still remember when people had ads for weed playing on Russian KZbin, like, actual weed.

[@jsansamatic6933]

Andrei is saying that Leafy’s ban was technically justified, he's not saying that others didn't deserve similar, he's just saying that technically it was justified

[@junedays2979]

@@mannhugh359 triggered leafy fans don't understand censorship

[@Skyblaze137]

everybody hated when jake paul does shit that can trigger d’apocalypse (2 or 3) but when leafy does bad stuff he’s a saint

[@aname6104]

@@mannhugh359 wow can’t believe KZbin censored jake Paul

[@LikaLaruku]

Leafy did say when he returned to Twitter that he was going to poke the bear until he got banned again, or got bored. He also created 12 channels & uploaded different videos to each one. Somehow Twitch banned him for doing nothing more than teaching people how to use the stock market, which was just months before Gamestonks went down.

[@LastBrigadiez]

But why not ban animal murderers

[@ceejaym1717]

Me who never knew leafy: interesting

[@virfah]

i didnt even know he was back ahahha

[@UndeadFangtooth]

How

[@goose93]

Same

[@bassy2292]

Samee

[@dr.phylisphical9294]

Leafy is back jahahahaha lol

[@Edacious_Evan]

*leafy walked through that minefield with a blindfold on*

[@secondarycolors2947]

Landmines are usually Buried under dirt Not really much of a difference tbh

[@salonisaraogi5865]

Yeah

[@Edacious_Evan]

Maybe the landmines were in plain sight lol

[@newguy8288]

Doing it so we don’t have to worry, the hero

[@gman8398]

Drunk, at 3AM running from the police

[@wisemage0]

_"I probably won't stop until they ban me"_ - Quote from man who was banned.

[@latebaits9539]

And now is mad that he was banned lol.

[@LeafysHere]

he isnt mad wtf where did u get that idea

[@latebaits9539]

@@LeafysHere 3:32 ,I am not sure about you but for me, when a man who says "It was super random dude" when faced with consequences, seems to be at least a little bit upset. Also he keeps talking about how much money he made and how little he cares about this ban which again for me, seems like plain denial of his mistakes.

[@latebaits9539]

@MACHO NACHO please read the comment I replied with to @lol

[@LeafysHere]

Latebaits yea no he doesnt keep talking about it, why do u have these ideas about him? he said it sucked, and he was just starting to have fun, but he isnt angry, hes just disappointed, he said youtube is a private company and can do whatever, he just expected to not get banned that quickly. and no he didnt make actual mistakes he couldnt have known because of youtubes inconsistencies, most if not everything popular on youtube is probably breaking the very vague and extreme rules on tos.

[@SHREDDING.]

What people don't understand is that the 2014-2017 era of KZbin is over.

[@TheOldBlackShuckyDog]

That era was at least fun.

[@meechtree5795]

@hello hi speech isn’t censored, people are held accountable for what they say. you can do what ever you want but you also have to face the consequences of said actions whatever they maybe.

[@chaosincarnate7304]

@@meechtree5795 KZbin is a private organization and their website isn't classed as a public forum. They can do whatever they want.

[@meechtree5795]

@@chaosincarnate7304 Why are you telling me this

[@BasileusRex]

RIP, it will be missed

[@richardchiu9958]

I feel like youtube is biased, since they haven't banned people who are animal abusers, people like Jake Paul, etc. HOWEVER, Leafy kind of had it coming. While he did bring up good points, calling Pokimane ugly in every single video for 3 minutes straight isn't actual criticism and is harassment. Also, saying that Pokimane has a boyfriend isn't criticism either. So while yes, he did bring up good points, a. they were all mute points (for ex: copyright claiming. she stopped after she got called out on it the second time, didn't go after people's sponsors [that was really fucked up tho], etc), b. they were effectively harassment, and that set him up for termination. He milked it so much that even if youtube only used half of the videos, he would still be terminated.

[@bungeespeaks6081]

What has jake paul done to be banned?

[@richardchiu9958]

@@bungeespeaks6081 Well back then, he made content that was too kid friendly, and it ended up cutting everyone's ad revenue in half. Basically, he turned his content into something that advertises his merchandise to kids. Now the advertising isn't the problem. The problem is that there is no clear boundary between the advertising and the content itself. So wouldn't you know it, COPPA ends up cracking down on the site. He literally breaks the child safety guidelines, by advertising his merch and basically turning his young audience into a cash cow. So yes, he of all people should be banned.

[@dailyreacts1463]

@@bungeespeaks6081 He also scammed some kids to a gambling website, Inappropriate videos, etc.

[@Boneyds]

If they make youtube money they have it easy

[@cxarhomell5867]

Yeah, leafy kind of had it coming, but still those guidelines need to be changed quickly. I don't understand how these content creators are even sticking with it by this point.

[@muyunz]

Just when leafy finally remembered his KZbin password... he got banned

[@hsbsbsgsbbsnahahsn8001]

Thank god

[@Choppedupchris]

@@hsbsbsgsbbsnahahsn8001 smh

[@hsbsbsgsbbsnahahsn8001]

Uncooked_Noodles what

[@_kendo_8772]

@@hsbsbsgsbbsnahahsn8001 smh

[@igtrg9546]

@@_kendo_8772 leafy fan boi

[@korbina.45]

I think most of the frustration with this subject is how they ban leafy for “harassment”, but keep people like miniladd or keemstar up with little to no reprecussions

[@notbrad5]

For real

[@archangel932]

Yeah but keemstar is too fucking immortal in this site to get banned. Unless he do a slip up and then it might be over for him

[@dionysus4742]

What did Miniladd and Keem do?

[@price2165]

what did they do

[@Crew7340]

lil crispy lmfao

[@ColinCartoons]

Firey: Where is Leafy? “Leafy was here.”

[@berdstep]

Haha bfdi/bfb reference

[@yuvrajmukherjee5329]

Lol yes

[@simachakraborty4875]

leafywashere*

[@xtremeyoylecake]

HAHA FINALLY A BFDI COMMENT 😂

[@Frank-Heffley]

I love how he admit to his mistakes and did not let his pride control his words

[@nutkraker999]

Who?

[@duncanchillake8024]

@@nutkraker999 andrei leafy made a video about him and talked smack lol, the thing is none of the things he said made sense

[@BillyMurray-hw2vz]

​@@duncanchillake8024Leafy spoke nothing but facts and you know it as well as everyone else knows it

[@Stryfe52]

Low budget Andre art scares me

[@ivantheslav4647]

Ikr

[@cloverarts9702]

its beacuse leafy said andrei cant draw :/

[@Stryfe52]

Clover Arts Yeah I know

[@Stryfe52]

tommylmao what?

[@champ8188]

You have roblox humor

[@JennaEmbers]

Finally, someone that is coming at this logically instead of coming from an emotional defensive place. THANK YOU.

[@meredithadams5495]

Hell yeah! Exactly. 👍

[@samamoataz1938]

Agreed

[@groundsalt2199]

He still hasn’t responded to the video about him lmao

[@Fattipotato79]

Aren't you meant to have a tick next to your name

[@riorii2092]

@@groundsalt2199 he did put leafy's voice saying "smart content" tho

[@hyd4a447]

Well, leafy did take a break for two years. You could say that when leafy left youtube, youtube was different then than it was when he came back. But he still kept pushing the boundaries.

[@LikaLaruku]

Pushing boundries was the whole point. He returned knowing exactly what would happen, but not how long it would take. I think he liked Twitch better though.

[@WhyDizzy]

@@LikaLaruku yea but he broke a bunch of twitch tos and he said the N word a bunch of times resulting in a ban

[@DarshanBhambhani]

“I’m gonna milk this channel til it gets banned” *gets banned “Why did you ban me :( ?”

[@ellia9976]

@Cvlt_moon ikr they don’t have any repercussions for jaystation because he gets views which makes youtube money

[@owyemen9367]

@@ellia9976 but... leafy gets more views than jaystation

[@ellia9976]

@Gaurishankar Swain oh my bad i just assumed that was the case

[@cyodeneni590]

he was memening

[@TheOldBlackShuckyDog]

So you’re saying he got banned for ‘milking it’? Well that’s a good reason ey

[@jakestokes2422]

I love how the script of the video is so unbiased but the animations and drawings are very personal lol

[@daviddoesstuffandthingigue966]

Leafy desereved it after atacking anderi for no reason

[@Blank-ou6yo]

@@daviddoesstuffandthingigue966 what do you mean?

[@ayyyayay]

@@daviddoesstuffandthingigue966 you mean criticizing

[@ayyyayay]

@@daviddoesstuffandthingigue966 also andrei isnt the reason why leafy was banned

[@daviddoesstuffandthingigue966]

@@ayyyayay ik im just sayin

[@happyharambe6687]

I can see leafy’s message about how sensitive KZbin has gotten. They expect creators to make kid friendly content but yet they made a KZbin app designed for kids

[@xexpaguette]

KZbin kids sucks ngl but I agree. Fix yt kids.

[@Jo-qc6mk]

Well advertisers still want content to be as much kid friendly as possible. And without the advertisers, KZbin is basically nothing. So KZbin doesn’t always have that much of a choice

[@mongolturkrants]

They don’t care about kid friendly, they just don’t want harassment’s

[@larisamustata6743]

Few months ago, every ads that was in Romania was for videochat studio :)). So very kid friendly :))

[@nugget767]

@@mongolturkrants is not the harassment but more coppa

[@thalesanastacio760]

"i would love to see leafy survive in today's climate..." so, this statement really aged well

[@Gabe_-pw7xv]

Not anymore. The man only uploaded 2 videos and already reached more than 100k subs

[@questionmark8059]

@@Gabe_-pw7xv when?

[@ilikepigeons6101]

@@Gabe_-pw7xv leafy fell off. Grow up

[@kingofgames2992]

@@ilikepigeons6101 nah. He represents a good point in youtube and Internet where not everything had to be PC

[@ilikepigeons6101]

@@kingofgames2992 he still fell off after whether he was good or not a while ago as you say lmao

[@BriangjohnsonTv]

This is such a smart and well structured video. Well done.

[@flinggonza5688]

Yes, Brian G Johnson TV.

[@fall-tober6448]

Leafy fans go brrrrr...

[@arandomdude2147]

U r the real Brian who talks about KZbin tips right?

[@nashb.856]

yes leafy fans go brrrrrrr.................................

[@Lee-One]

@@nashb.856 leafy fans go brrrrrrrrrrr

[@ramwillowcrypt1419]

I feel like a lot of people weren’t necessarily mad at the fact that leafy got banned but at the fact that KZbin only reinforces their policies when they want. Leafy broke multiple community guidelines. Okay. What about the other youtubers like the Paul Brothers ? or Trisha ? Like for the Jake Paul situation it wasn’t KZbin who came in and took care of it, it was COPPA instead. While in the Leafy situation it was KZbin who decided to take care of . It’s mostly the issue of inconsistency from KZbin that has me on edge

[@peq1195]

exactly.

[@ramwillowcrypt1419]

Levi Doneson oh definitely. If you can watch partial nudity, display of weapons, fights etc. Like if somebody (for example) aired a video where somebody gets threatened I feel like it would get taken down on KZbin while on Tv it would be all good

[@champnotchicken4318]

@@ramwillowcrypt1419 You can do the same on youtube but advertisers won't advertise on your videos.

[@Calicoman6]

Funny how he said that it has nothing to do with whether you like him or not. Obviously you don't like him dude he talked shit about your videos and he had validity in his shit talking. And the fact that leafy has been gone for more than a month and NOW he wants to make a video lmao. And also i dont think leafy gave a shit on whether or not he got banned. I feel it was a test of the power youtube holds and how they choose to use it like Ram said.

[@deepakpillai240]

Actually a lot of people were mad that leafy got banned.

[@ilikesodaa1643]

i’m in tears how he drew leafy

[@Themathosphere]

Same bro

[@BOOTSTUDIO]

Same

[@potato7348]

@@BOOTSTUDIO ok I saw this in another comment and now I have to say SHUT UP u just spamming people with the same thing

[@tehahhuatipgkkent1369]

Layton Richard laughing tears or sad tears?

[@seyi6295]

He looks like mr jellybean from rick & morty

[@mastermeep7639]

he didnt really get his bag and leave on his own, but understand that he would most likely lose his audience should he censor himself and go back on his word

[@NlNJACQUES]

Doubt that

[@tripie6435]

What more does he has to lose He'll be forgoten in time

[@WolfyboiRTCT]

@@tripie6435 Bruh. I forgot about him before and forgot about him like 2 days after he came back.

[@baldymcnosehair9135]

I agree with leafy's ban but the problem is that youtube doesn't ban worst channels

[@ruiyangho5528]

they ban leafy bc leafy went on attacking ppl

[@BlackPersonGuy]

@@ruiyangho5528 dummy they agree so they obviously know why. But theres people who have literally done much worse and havent gotten banned. So leafy didnt deserve it then

[@boseph3241]

Agree with this 100%

[@ADA-jt5ov]

Worst channel like Jake paul

[@goldgolemgaming7653]

YES

[@Uniquenameosaurus]

Ha, well this is brave

[@Bluegallardo619]

Haven’t seen you in a while, you got something in the works?

[@di0sm3lls61]

Is the definition of this channel kinda

[@ehi_ij]

*Oh hey your that channel-* k I’m not gonna lie I don’t know who you are and just wanted to b included with the replies...

[@god3538]

@Ehi IKR 🤣 also I just checked your channel I thought it was pretty funny you just earned a sub 👍

[@nasirahmed7927]

Ok

[@t.n.21]

andrei: hmm im gonna draw people as accurately as I can in a cartoon style leafy: im here andrei:

[@filip76uk93]

hes mad leafy was correct about him

[@b_morris212]

SQuinGedSausage No, he’s saying he came off biased and annoyed, and tried to show Leafy in the worst light possible

[@b_morris212]

SQuinGedSausage I agree that the drawing was played as a joke, but saying the video was made two years ago doesn’t delegitimize any of the points. I would argue he still comes off a little arrogant. Of course leafy chose the video where this was at its peak, however he also showed videos from the KSI-Logan Paul match this year.

[@b_morris212]

SQuinGedSausage That’s true, he wasn’t focusing on the ban, and he made some compelling points, but it’s impossible for someone to make a video making fun of your content, and not having a little bit of person bias taint the video.

[@elisayonamine5031]

@SQuinGedSausage just like leafy did ? he was kinda salty tho,but i guess thats his whole character i guess

[@froogletanimations1086]

“I was warned but yeah outside of that I wasn’t warned”

[@coollegend6119]

Animal Abusers: *Abuse animals, on KZbin.* KZbin: Oh no, anyways. KZbinrs: *Say the word “Frick”.* KZbin: *Whips out ban hammer*

[@user-yz4ck8hn2m]

Who got banned for that?

[@Ak_UnscirptedChaos]

Are u a kid, there were much deeper reason for Leafy to get banned, did u even watch the whole video

[@sirlunchbox5125]

“COOL LEGEND” just by his name we can tell this guy is under 13

[@user-wc7fh3iy5h]

Its a god damn joke like the kids are yall who reply

[@aname6104]

@@user-wc7fh3iy5h it’s a stupid joke

[@Frvnt888]

next they're gonna ban Andrei for talking about Leafy's ban or Pokimane again.

[@douglet2294]

I use two like this guy after this video i lost respect for him i bet the only reason why he made this video bc leafy made fun on how hes animations suck and hes so unfunny

[@jbgum]

Douglas Escobar Use two? And he’s using facts and logic he’s not doing it just to spite leafy or anyone, shut up.

[@Mojkanal1234]

Andrei is no worst and no better then Leafy.

[@NSAKariTV]

andrei just list public information and most of the time he doesn't even state how he feels and he doesn't "criticize" people. all he says is actions have consequences pretty much. he doesn't attack people, get into arguments or any of that drama. like he said in this video, he can know why people can find his content rather cringe worthy or not like it. he doesn't talk about controversial statements and speak mostly of his opinion so i don't get why he would be banned. (also leafy targeted hate to andrei on twitter. ik that doesn't have anything to do with it but its just messed up overall)

[@NSAKariTV]

*summed up* andrei just doesn't break any rules of harassment

[@spacesoarer9799]

It's still selective justice, as much as I don't like leafy, why are animal abuse channels, spam channels (5minscrafts, my story animated) still operating. If KZbin acknowledges companies getting 100mil subs then acknowledge their mistakes. Ffs

[@blaze08080]

Plus pedos that still have there platform like miniladd. Leafy made some edgy content and said a girls nose didn't look good and yeah the thumbnail thing should of just got a strike but not a full on fucking ban like he did

[@farzanazaheer9191]

Money where there money there is youtube backup.

[@makeawishkid4725]

Those animated channels actually help youtube

[@g0bas535]

@@makeawishkid4725 They did, for a while. But now, its dying as hellll. Some major story telling animation channels couldnt even pull off 100k views

[@atrinity2289]

That's kinda facts, dude

[@billnyetherussianspy1596]

His ban was My most "Oh no, anyway" moment ever

[@theextraholygiraffe2781]

@Deep Patel i do agree that it was harrasment, fine, but if you watch his old videos you would be having break downs in crying if you werr the target of his video, he was a jerk yea. But some of his new content isnt even close to being as bad. I think youtube should havs put their footdown and give him a 2 week ban, not a full termination, give people a chance to change

[@billnyetherussianspy1596]

@@theextraholygiraffe2781 If I had an IQ over 5 I wouldn't at all cry that leafy made fun of me

[@theextraholygiraffe2781]

@@billnyetherussianspy1596 well looking at your channel, you get tons of dislikes and you turn off comments, looks like you dont like critsism. So yea leafy WOULD make you have a breakdown

[@billnyetherussianspy1596]

@@theextraholygiraffe2781 no KZbin marked it as for kids And good Those video are garbage Lol I've seen small dogs more intimidating then ugly chin

[@AmbyrRavyn]

That's not how that format works

[@FreelyFooled]

Leafy fans are actual glue eaters. When Idubbbz made the video all of the sudden Leafy fans stopped existing, but then he came back amd all of the suddem he's this savior. If his fans were actually loyal he wouldn't have left, they jumped on the bandwagon

[@Randomperson-ev7pe]

First of all the glue eater thing was funny, and I agree with u but his reactions were really bad, and I think idubbz kinda showed it to everyone

[@FreelyFooled]

@@Randomperson-ev7pe Which I'm not disputing, Leafy is a shit muncher of a youtuber. However, just because Dubinski told everyone Leafy was bad, didn't mean people who enjoyed Leafy HAD to stop watching him. This sudden popularity boost was because people can't think for themselves, and like Leafy because it's okay to like him now

[@Randomperson-ev7pe]

Dylan Sullins personally I hate his reactions but his stories and new 2020 vids I liked

[@Randomperson-ev7pe]

@ignis fatuus 66 well I hate this youtuber more than leafy he’s a politically correct commentary channel

[@Randomperson-ev7pe]

@ignis fatuus 66 leafy isn’t edgy he’s just not a thin skin like everyone else these days. This youtuber is pro censorship, which means he believes that youtube should take down “inappropriate” content. He agrees with KZbin’s overprotective moderation.

[@FirstnameLastname77777]

While andrei is trying to be unbiased you can tell he doesn't like leafy especially how he animates him

[@adedaraadeloro5603]

I thought I only noticed that

[@niger216]

Ya it's probably beacause of the video leafy made on Andrei before he got banned

[@Imnotmoe]

It's kinda clear he's salty

[@Gldtr39]

He’s still a little salty 😂 I still think he would’ve taken the high ground if leafy were still active

[@lel2015]

Well Leafy did make a video criticizing him I doubt Andrei is truly unbiased.

[@TwitterVS]

I know he broke the rules. my biggest issue is the communication from youtube around this. you're supposed to have a warning, 3 strikes and then ban. youtube skipped the 3 strikes and went straight to a ban without any explanation of which videos violated their policies. without a clear example of what Leafy did to get banned on top of ignoring the 3 strike system gets me worried about what I can and can't say on this platform. My channel is just reading other people's tweets but some of those tweets are aggressive and go close to the edge of what's harassment on youtube so idk

[@mariomario-ih6mn]

This is actually Bowblax

[@kelooo]

I completely agree with you bowblax

[@deandre2680]

Yeah it’s very sad man.

[@salt5537]

Hi

[@autoporridge]

Er... That''s not the first time that's happened to a channel *cough* mumkey *cough*, KZbin instantly deplatforming creators without notice or reason has been a problem plaguing any aspiring creator making content that isn't exactly 100% family-friendly. These are the rules creators have to play by, whether they like it or not, cause a majority of KZbin and their audience don't care. As long as the advertisers are getting a good deal and the competition is non-existent, KZbin will be the only decision maker, even if the platform and its rules are a dumpster fire.

[@diamondsrubies1964]

I love the western music he plays when he introduces a chapter😂

[@razzyjr12345]

Me too

[@trentonmoonias239]

i love the animations, especially the part where you and your bird watch the tv with popcorn

[@kitbarter3880]

Andrea has some good points and has came at it mostly logically but I do get the effect that he is atleast slightly annoyed about leafys video, but all in all good video.

[@TheMindefer]

Oh it's okay to doodle someone because he's not in youtube anymore? check your facts. Andrei is just the same as your regular commentary youtubers, including leafy

[@magnetiteeagle2.025]

@@TheMindefer the heck are you talking about ???

[@verifiednerd7051]

The Grumpy Bragon Man you got us all bamboozled

[@LeafysHere]

MagnetiteEagle2.0 he means he drew leafy like a very ugly gremlin to paint a bad picture of him hes very biased

[@hearty0]

Yeah I get what you’re saying. I could feel the slightest bit of annoyance radiating from his speech but he made very good points

[@AlejandroSol4rr]

I think that people are only angry at the inconsistenties. KZbin bans leafy but Jake Paul has broken so many guidelines as well as many other content creators. Sometimes with a channel I believe called NELK? They just got banned for starting a party during COVID-19 but Jake Paul as well as Tana Mongoose and I think Erika Costell were doing the exact same thing multiple times and he even got raided by the FBI but KZbin didn't do anything. That's why I would say most people are angry.

[@mentosfairy]

Jake, Tana, and Erika probably make KZbin more money than Leafy. Idk about the other channel, tho. Not saying it’s right, but I’m sure that’s their mindset.

[@AngelStarHealer]

let's just agree that youtube just doesn't like the commentary community

[@dhodho8837]

yes

[@align123]

Tana Mongoose lol

[@samiryourebreakingthecar5828]

Some content creators have the “subs privilege” or something...idk

[@9cloudskate]

I love how You present being on “no ones “ side in such a respectful way

[@ThotPatrolSlayerWarrior]

Just came back after what happen from couple months ago that Leafy was finally hit by wall on his late 20s. This video aged like fine wine, *HA!*

[@samamoataz1938]

KZbin is getting real Comfortable With the bots.

[@nonamesaretaken5616]

no shit sherlock, im one of them

[@fluffehpancakes1102]

i mean if you can write AI that can create people that don't exist you can sure as hell do just that

[@user-wu7lv7oo5t]

And the double ads

[@movedchannelslol6380]

@@nonamesaretaken5616 You have a sense of humour and because of that I'll be the 1 sub.

[@hayreddinbarbarossa661]

The amount of bot comments with Asian girls as the picture is getting ridiculous and it doesn't matter if you report them they stay up.

[@emeraldkma]

Andrei: especially Leafy fans, I know you're gonna want to Leaf a dislike

[@wooftothet9844]

lol 😂

[@harisharoraarora66]

💗🐥𝑺𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝑵𝒐𝒘! 𝑹𝒆𝒅𝒘𝒐𝒐𝒅 𝑺𝒊𝒈𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒆 𝑫𝒆𝒂𝒍𝒔 𝒊𝒔 𝒐𝒇𝒇𝒆𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒈 30% 𝒐𝒇𝒇 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒊𝒕𝒆𝒎𝒔 𝒖𝒑 𝒕𝒐 7𝒑𝒎 𝑻𝒖𝒆𝒔. 𝑫𝒊𝒔𝒄𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒕 𝒂𝒑𝒑𝒍𝒊𝒆𝒅 𝒂𝒕 𝒄𝒉𝒆𝒄𝒌𝒐𝒖𝒕. 𝑫𝒐𝒏’𝒕 𝒎𝒊𝒔𝒔 𝒐𝒖𝒕. 𝑹𝒆𝒅𝒘𝒐𝒐𝒅𝒔𝒊𝒈𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒆.𝒄𝒐𝒎🌸💙

[@POHreeg]

Now that is a real comment lol

[@Ampparr1]

@@harisharoraarora66 begone bot

[@toasht]

Hehe

[@ThatGuyKh1]

He had it coming imo it’s just too bad that KZbin is to lazy ban others who are just as bad and if not worse

[@ezyanl.bantayan8525]

It's weird that youtube does bans and demonitization even though there is a version of youtube for kids

[@ogjohnston05]

Leafy's channel: Gets terminated Team four star: First time?

[@penisaids5207]

Lol

[@lukky6648]

Wait when?

[@ogjohnston05]

@@lukky6648 team four stars channel was taken down many times, but they kept bringing it back under a different name

[@lukky6648]

@@ogjohnston05 hmmm fhanks

[@cdt549]

@@ogjohnston05 but why tho what do they do ?

[@DETECTIVEMARVEL-sn8wy]

All of Leafy's videos having ironic 'I'd love to see Leafy survive in the current climate' didn't age well

[@homarsimpsom]

Thats literally the point. We all knew it was inevitable, even him.

[@gremlinfifty2308]

@@homarsimpsom this,

[@firstname8044]

Leafy Drinks white liquid kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3vMcpJritpniMU

[@coolthefool1]

First Name nah wtf

[@hyperhinhitter]

He did survive though

[@crazzzzzzykk]

Damn he’s great at animation!

[@odin1303]

@hello hi Salt 🧂

[@2twosticks]

@@odin1303 you forgot these salt 🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂

[@itz_daniel7144]

@hello hi ok but, have you made an animation yourself?

[@bit_ronic]

last time i checked on leafy he was, uh, trying to stir up drama by leaking info about h3h3's son actually being keemstar's? it all felt like an elaborate joke from the get go, really, so i just forgot about it until youtube recommended me this video, seriously, i don't think many people care about "leafy drama" at this point.

[@thisdude2995]

at this point he was just asking for trouble

[@bit_ronic]

@• Salsa oh yeah i also forgot about that ngl, he said it was a joke, wasn't really funny, nor didnit have a decent punchline, but i forgot about it.

[@ady6285]

Leafy: Bullies Pokimane KZbin: Snaps its fingers Logan Paul: Shows corpse KZbin: Oh silly Logan, don't do that!

[@alfredhauchfox2073]

Logan did it in the start of 2018, the new guidelines came out in the end of 2019... If Logan did that now he'd get banned.

[@SM-qv2om]

@Kosta Mladenovic and Twitch

[@chriscrashbash3344]

M M and ME! Wait what?

[@jaboi7709]

All the people abusing animals are still monetized

[@gijs4468]

SeaShark _007 yeah he did

[@MaddyxMadness]

my therapist: you are safe, low budget animation leafy can’t hurt you. low budget animation leafy: ... 👁 👄 👁

[@ghoulatypical3173]

I cackled

[@deadeyemurad7353]

Shut up normie with that garbo emoji

[@OatmealGrillBlazer]

👁 👄 👁

[@NusBH]

@@deadeyemurad7353 👁👄👁

[@lavnaf]

That emoji is cancer

[@marylesperance8859]

I love how the Ceo had a lot more budget on animation.

[@fb47655]

Andrei : youtube is moving the goal posts *put a rugby post instead of a football goalpost

[@facto222]

Well it's not American football ?

[@janevillena7042]

Despite Andrei obviously being salty on Leafy, I like the fact that he doesn't let it get in the way of his arguments.

[@hattorii474]

Leafy got what he deserved

[@colbyheller8200]

@@hattorii474 He didn't deserve it.

[@marcellium1]

MusicifyZNull I like the way you put it

[@hagayudamar832]

@@colbyheller8200 he was one of the most toxic creators on the platform, he kept milking the pokimane drama not caring for her emotional well being, if we made it an A person B person situation, he could have easly been seen as the bad guy by many people

[@janevillena7042]

@@hattorii474 He didn't deserve it, but he had it coming.

[@stultus2401]

5:48 leafy’s design reminds me of Papa’s Pizzeria

[@Mogijup]

STOP OH MY FU- YOU KNOW WHAT? JAIL. YOU GET JAIL FOR THAT. NOW TAKE MY LIKE AND HELP ME UNSEE THIS.

[@MrSottho]

Holy shit I knew I had seen that style somewhere before

[@nanuninja8061]

@@MrSottho fr I recognized and wondered where I saw it

[@Sr_Azulisreal]

Elmo calm down

[@leviathan7562]

omg forgot that game existed

[@TheVaultDweller-oi9ij]

Kinda reminds me of that Lucky dude, not gonna lie. I can't wait to see what Lucky has in store for us. I know he's new but he has some great potential, and I think he'll be able to survive in KZbin's landscape today.

[@Dorkish]

Advertisers: Welp, no money 4 u Lawmakers: Welp, no more memes 4 u KZbin: *Having a stroke*

[@kingroshi3643]

I like how Andrea draws everyone how they look in real life , but leafy looks like a gremlin

[@WOLFM0THER]

Pretty accurate portrayal of the sad traumatized bully hiding behind his Leafy persona to feel loved. i actually feel bad for calvin now

[@DoritoIsHere]

He has a chin here ,so is incorrect

[@avir1019]

I mean...do you expect an Internet troll to like a athletic dude who goes to the gym daily

[@ceebergoose2970]

Hes mad

[@888beach4ngels]

@@asubscriber9045 did you even watch the full video?

[@farhanafi]

“Legend says Andrei and wilfur are both still eating the one piece of popcorn”

[@harisharoraarora66]

💗🐥𝑺𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝑵𝒐𝒘! 𝑹𝒆𝒅𝒘𝒐𝒐𝒅 𝑺𝒊𝒈𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒆 𝑫𝒆𝒂𝒍𝒔 𝒊𝒔 𝒐𝒇𝒇𝒆𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒈 30% 𝒐𝒇𝒇 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒊𝒕𝒆𝒎𝒔 𝒖𝒑 𝒕𝒐 7𝒑𝒎 𝑻𝒖𝒆𝒔. 𝑫𝒊𝒔𝒄𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒕 𝒂𝒑𝒑𝒍𝒊𝒆𝒅 𝒂𝒕 𝒄𝒉𝒆𝒄𝒌𝒐𝒖𝒕. 𝑫𝒐𝒏’𝒕 𝒎𝒊𝒔𝒔 𝒐𝒖𝒕. 𝑹𝒆𝒅𝒘𝒐𝒐𝒅𝒔𝒊𝒈𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒆.𝒄𝒐𝒎🌸💙

[@ssjalpha6455]

Harish Arora BOT ALERT BOT ALERT

[@POHreeg]

LOL ITS TRUE, SO SO TRUE

[@joesphaiden5023]

@@harisharoraarora66 how do i type

[@duracell9145]

i wanted to write that XD

[@napoleoncorneliusscipio5141]

Profound points made. But all I'm gonna say is that you lose some, and you gain some. In any case, Leafy still had his victories but in the end did not win the war. No more edgy, satirical but admittedly entertaining commentaries. True, what a shame and wasted potential.

[@BillyMurray-hw2vz]

Ofc he won the war, he took every W imaginable, and they had to literally violate his human rights to stop him😂😂

[@thebritishempire3975]

I sat through the NordVPN advert just to hear the "and we'll see you again.. very soon"

[@randomuser8574]

KZbin allows animal abusers, but they don’t allow the word frick

[@hamsawarriors5297]

What rlly

[@cb_sketches787]

what the fri- **ban hammer**

[@suhailkarimadath9223]

Now this a blatant lie

[@cb_sketches787]

Suhail Karimadath Okay, lets see if youtube contacts me

[@a5hamad]

Yes they do lmao

[@FabulousAura]

Just wanted to chime in; when he talks about having a warning, he didn't get a "warning" by email or anything, he got a strike and your first strike is considered a warning.

[@kitemogiya1734]

A warning is a warning then it moves to a strike, a warning isn't counted as a strike, that's not how it works. Leafy got a warning previously and then got terminated the next.

[@FabulousAura]

@@kitemogiya1734 A warning is essentially a fourth strike, I know cause I have one. It's a strike that does not go away neither, and it sometimes does not even let you know what the exact problem with the video was.

[@Ppman]

He got a strike on his ImAlexx and H3H3 videos originally, but those strikes were taken away by KZbin, im pretty sure. When the strikes were removed, KZbin essentially told Leafy that the videos he was making were acceptable

[@ijarbis187]

Fabulous Aura last time I checked, youtube has a 3 strike system to give the creator a chance to change and follow the guidelines incase a mistake is made. Leafy was given a warning, not a strike and then was suddenly striked down which is not fair.

[@billymays8864]

@@Ppman fun fact: strikes go away after (i think) 30 days :)

[@muhammadmurtaza6630]

Andrei's one video gets one caught up on the whole situation. Excellent. Brilliant.

[@goldfishesincrackerform5978]

The 9.4 K people who disliked are leafy fans

[@vigo7334]

or have a other opinion

[@abelardomaya5141]

Vi Go yes

[@KamilHenri]

Leafy is looking better than ever

[@Rusiel]

🎶??

[@sqsu]

@@Rusiel it means hes a licensed music creator

[@Rusiel]

@@sqsu yeah ik

[@Twlz_09]

@@sqsu Not really. He had some friends vouch for him to get it lmfao minimum for it is 1k subs

[@vedradhakrishnan5416]

@@Twlz_09 not even 1k. you just need a distrokid lol

[@splash4690]

I just don’t understand why they hold “harassment” barely crossing the line over channels like pollution entertainment literally killing animals and other channels posting those videos of them “rescuing” animals that they abused themselves. There’s so much horrid content that clearly shouldn’t be allowed but they see leafy call out pokimane and they ban him. I just don’t get it.

[@Nugcon]

Because Leafy is so much more famous, therefore more visible for KZbin. I haven't heard of that channel, but I do for Leafy. Also if literal animal abusers would get banned there would be no controversy, well because you know.

[@secondarycolors2947]

@Levi Doneson so... Abusing animals Is not breaking Guidelines?... Bruh

[@secondarycolors2947]

@Levi Doneson I thought Everyone hated Animal abusers.. And I'm not saying your for it I'm just saying they Dont need to be on KZbin Getting Money for it

[@Frazier16]

There's a mukbang channel that eats and toutrers live seafood and has 2 mill subs

[@secondarycolors2947]

@Levi Doneson yeah.. Maybe KZbin should Ban more People then just Leafy I dont think they should just stop with him

[@pothepoggers306]

me when i listen to asmr : 0-o / me when andrei says hes gonna give us an ad at the end : *moans in satisfaction*

[@imposteronyt]

wtf

[@notawickedoldlady2290]

Is it just me or do I love swaying along to the outro music....

[@Rinne_Z_rank]

Andrei: (makes a video about leafy) Us: does he like or hate leafy? Andrei: Us: well, now we know.

[@elisayonamine5031]

funny original comment im gonna laugh

[@AccurateEnd143]

Wait how does that make sense

[@tomasalmeida2602]

The video was well deserved

[@jack.20f74]

He probably wouldn't have made a video if he didn't get salty over what Leafy said about him. I'm sure he was expecting Leafy to like him (which I did as well) and got a bad taste in his mouth when Leafy trolled on him.

[@jack.20f74]

@SQuinGedSausage Well of course it was irrelevant. Leafy made it. He bought into his troll because it offended him

[@sp3ctr-3]

“KZbin is not what it was several years ago” *”youtube 2016”* He’s a time traveler

[@BOOTSTUDIO]

No way am as good animator as Andrei, but could you check my funny Animations, help me improve, please like

[@a.h.tvideomapping4293]

BOOT STUDIO shut up bot

[@thatunknownfella]

If he was, he’d have a teleporter, but I’m not saying he doesn’t have one

[@vi3ye]

@@BOOTSTUDIO Shut up

[@astick1715]

@@BOOTSTUDIO No

[@colossalsandwich1311]

“How can you say something so controversial yet so brave”

[@nutkraker999]

How can you not??

[@yazzytoube]

I think you are the only “KZbin drama” page I watch and respect. Although I haven’t seen other pages like yours I can say this about you. You don’t get petty, your animation and color pallet is fun, you’re pretty honest with the crowd you have, and you have fun commentary with your Wilbur use

[@pizzatime1574]

5:48 that legitimately looks like a papa louie character

[@Royozo-nh5tq]

Omfg

[@kawsmade]

Its the eyes

[@myzerlbox5030]

AHAHA U GOT ME LOL

[@DevonProductionsTV]

Honestly dude, as much I’m a Leafy fan, he does have a point. Cmon dude this is not 2016 part 2. Just putting H3 at the end of his videos and getting terminated, now he’s acting like the stupid person. Big mistake.

[@elisayonamine5031]

dudes,needed 2 years to finally find the solution on responding iddubz.

[@CounterUnit]

You know he got 2 strikes but then it got reversed so he got no warning

[@derpyderp1144]

Yes but he still didnt get the 3 strikes therefore he shouldnt be banned. This isn't too much about his content anymore it's more about youtube enforcing their rules

[@Mrflowerproductions]

This site has the big gay

[@hippugamer6689]

when a youtuber named paqpa got banned for no reason everybody was sad and she is back

[@Smicc]

KZbin exists Law: and I took that personally

[@rp.630]

Therapist - low budget Andrei cant hurt you Low budget andrei- 8:09

[@KoolMonkE]

@Yusra Hussein the part where he animated the CEO of KZbin's interview.

[@halal_spider9722]

@@KoolMonkE what is the time stamp

[@KoolMonkE]

@@halal_spider9722 8:09

[@halal_spider9722]

@@KoolMonkE thx

[@firstname8044]

High budget Andrei kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3vMcpJritpniMU

[@nonamesaretaken5616]

youtube is getting really comfortable with these double 15 second unskippable ads.

[@citiesinruin9435]

Don't sub to this guy , he does have 1 sub!!!!!

[@thegodzachieve]

Bot

[@parvathivediyoor7028]

Well done boys you won my subs

[@kirbo4208]

And they REALLY love double unskippable ads

[@justyourfellowduck]

Yes.

[@rapidxzz]

funny how this dude posted his response after leafy doesn’t have a platform to defend himself

[@mjslaw]

well no shit 💀 this is a video about leafy getting banned

[@eightfive1177]

lmao tf? how is he going to make a video on leafy getting banned before he got banned..?

[@rapidxzz]

@@mjslaw nah it’s him defending himself

[@sharkx5555]

@@rapidxzz Defending himself from... what? Harassment? Keeping in mind he's an animator so he'll always be late to the party. Keeping in mind even just a glance at his other videos would reveal that he covers drama thats (mostly) finished to give a critical analysis instead of drama that's currently ongoing.

[@rapidxzz]

@@sharkx5555 no lmao. no one is harassing anyone. leafy would just reiterate his points and explain more why this dudes channel is extremely unfunny and boring. its just laughable how this dude waited till leafy got banned because he knew he couldn't take a shot back at him. just kind of a pussy move imo.

[@alpokyar]

Notice how every drawing of leafy is trying to roast him

[@parry111]

While logan’s stuff was definitely crossing the lines, he was smart enough to not cross the line in every video, unlike leafy. Not to mention the fact that he brings youtube a lot of scheckles so they’re definitely gonna be more lenient towards him. Leafy however was poking the giant, so honestly it was a matter of time before he would get wiped. Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but after his defeat, i think he’s become way better. The one who should be banned is actually jake. Unlike logan, he’s grown into a bigger shit, more egotistical, and has also started poking the giant. So yea, while logan has done some messed up some stuff, i believe that jake is 100 times worse than him. Let’s discuss in the replies.(damn, that’s a lot of likes, most I’ve got, so yea thank you)

[@inaki2326]

i believe logan has matured or at least looks like he has matured because of that one huge controversy while jake has only had medium sized controversies but alot of them.

[@ghostofury9755]

jake paul had the f**king fbi come to his house and tried to downplay that, while most ppl don't rlly give a damm about logan

[@Krone0k]

Oz Cancer in of itself can contain itself but with profitable cancer it’s way more combustible than it is

[@Javier-zw9sx]

idk the last thing that I heard about Jake was the FBI situation but that didn't had to do anything with KZbin other than that he is an asshole outside the platform so they can't ban him.

[@tonyhawkproskater1945]

this comment is made by 9 year olds

[@izvedimeleoparde8577]

Selective justice is the worst kind of injustice.

[@pisstits]

It isn’t justice

[@shsltrash6685]

yea... where is the justice when the guilty all go free?

[@kekwnet]

That's why people are defending leafy

[@glamourprisimmiqota1150]

So are you guys for andrei or not I'm intrested

[@verbalkint4258]

@Filthy acts at a reasonable price dude leafy got banned like a week after he made the Andrei video. How could Andrei respond that quickly, he isn't leafy, he actually has to put effort into his content and animate. Andrei is simply stating facts, you leafy fans are such babies.

[@crisprat2604]

I still wait till the end for the sponsor details cuz he animates the sponsor animations really amazing

[@nbd9321]

Alright, here we go. Leafy did get a warning before getting terminated so KZbin is totally right. You pointing out Leafy pushed it too far is also right. I don't think Leafy did this as an accident, I'm not saying it's intentional but I'm sure he knew he was getting the ban hammer. To be honest while being sad about one of my favourite youtubers getting banned from youtube I think that was the best ending possible. Think about it, a channel based on attacking other channels, how long can it survive on a family friendly website? I like bullying content but KZbin doesn't. I can't criticize Leafy for getting banned. If I was doing what Leafy did I would want my ending to be getting banned. Getting banned is much more better than turning to a channel who makes kids videos which happens to most of the youtubers getting popular. Leafy's channel was an unreachable dream, and this is how it ends. Again, as a Leafy fan I'm still proud of Leafy but KZbin did the right thing to do.

[@OfficialDiffy]

KZbin is starting to become trash

[@nbd9321]

@@OfficialDiffy Yeah, but drama always existed.

[@Louis-dy7ci]

HE CAME IN A SAVAGE AND WENT OUT A SAVAGE

[@nbd9321]

@@Louis-dy7ci Yeah that's what I was pointing out. Even though it's wrong it was his style.

[@jwen2528]

I, as a leafy "fan", stand on mostly what cr1tikal and other commentary channels have pointed out about how arbitrary KZbin's rules are: Leafy's ban was completely deserved and expected, there were no surprises there, but it's almost like it happened because he was popular. Peluchín entertainment's channel is somehow still up and he does nothing but torture cats, and so do other KZbin channels that copy him, so if Leafy is getting terminated permanently then why isn't peluchín? One of these is obviously more important that the other, yet has been overlooked for years. I believe the problem here are not KZbin's rules, per se, but how they're enforced.

[@lilac1922]

I agree, those channels definitely need to be taken down. It's easy to look at youtube as one entity but realistically youtube is massive and is all over the world. It might be more realistic to see youtube in regions, kind of like how netflix has different regions and their shows vary on the region theyre in. Peluchin is based in Chile and his followers are part of the South American region. Whoever is in charge of monitoring content in that region may be enforcing the rules differently versus how it's enforced here in the US. It also depends on how popular the content is and whether it's even hitting their radar in comparison to the biggest youtubers in that area. Kinda like how pewdiepie is constantly getting shit on for no reason, simply because he has the biggest platform and is constantly being monitored.

[@justasleebylilguylittlesle1496]

Yeah, if you wanna make the rules, at least dole them out consistently. Leafy's channel wasn't active for the longest time, but violated their policy despite that, yet they didn't take him down while he was inactive, they did it when he was gaining popularity after coming back, but also after other popular creators complained. In my honest opinion, the ban was more self serving than anything else.

[@flanoop1774]

Bans often do happen because of popularity, when sketchy content is popular it is brought to the attention of people who have the capability to incite the harassment termination policy (insta-ban as I call it)

[@katcrafty]

Why are you a fan of someone whose ban is “deserved and expected”. Come on, you have to acknowledge that’s non-sensical...

[@neikrodent]

KZbin being more strict on more popular channels is completely reasonable and should be expected from such a big platform. Popular channels are simply more important and dangerous to KZbin If your country has 2 drug shops and one of them is so popular that 5 million people know about it, which one would you close first and more strictly?

[@lel2015]

You can tell Andrea is still salty that Leafy made a video on him.

[@notebook1148]

He makes video on everything that gets popular but ok

[@BunkPolitics]

This kids is why we explain what warnings are before we use them to justify termination...

[@lokiteevee3514]

4:04 all the "don't call ___ at 3:am" KZbinrs *sweats profusely*

[@firstattempt2588]

When I saw how you drew leafy : “GG Well played”

[@hattorii474]

What he deserved

[@bunnyfuzzy7982]

Eviekuda which is funny XD

[@LeafysHere]

thats just a generic insult he obviously didnt mean it

[@LeafysHere]

Eviekuda okay but where do we disagree then

[@firstattempt2588]

Comment gotta lotta likes lol

[@perryeuan2748]

Well, we knew this was coming

[@thegodzachieve]

Yup

[@jude-joseph]

Yup

[@doodledevore4374]

Yup

[@nxcrorat]

_Uyp_

[@lady_master6390]

Ypu

[@jasonlopez75]

I REMEMBER! Every video SAVAGE AF!!! Sweet animations, bro.

[@jakepierson6208]

I believe that you are correct, but I think the button pushing was due to ignorance instead of his ego.

[@tylerr5645]

Faze Banks: wait the goal posts aren’t moving??? Andrei: never have been

[@BrodyLane.]

yo do you follow hatch art on insta

[@AxxLAfriku]

My haters throw rocks at me and it hurts. I hope they don't throw The Rock at me because I like him as an actor. GAGAGAGAGA!!! I am funny!!! For more amazing jokes you have to visit my YT site, dear ytlee

[@ranchudawesv1890]

@@AxxLAfriku No

[@TheeGreenApple]

Somebody: *breathes* KZbin: is that made for kids Somebody: wha- *banned*

[@mapper_rapper]

Dude ur so funny I'm literally crying rn hahahaha!

[@TheRealYolo.]

Lmao

[@pukcabsozaxiamie]

@@mapper_rapper dude your so funny

[@maxwellli7057]

If I post a video of only breathing, is that for kids or all?

[@TheeGreenApple]

Depends , mouth breather? Or nose breather?

[@Itsxzavia]

Your speaking facts but it seems your having some unreleased anger at some people specially leafy for something, with the animation

[@mmaammiinne1]

He is just frustrated

[@cyodeneni590]

He's passive agressive

[@absolutelyknot2481]

Well I remember leafy insulted andrei terbea and andrei got shitted on by his fanbase. Make sense

[@user-mg7wh8zq6v]

Im not here cuz of Leafy, Im here cuz of Andrei!

[@someguywho-]

"Especially for Leafy fans i know you're probably gonna LEAF dislikes" i see what you did there andrei

[@ShrimpRice]

..

[@zooker7938]

I don't think that was a pun. You're looking at it too hard.

[@ShrimpRice]

@@zooker7938 it was a bad pun if so. Just why point it out anyways, RAAA?

[@dhuh943]

@@ShrimpRice Because joek

[@commander4741]

Your not funny

[@largegummyhitman5786]

love how they only defend people who make them the big bucks like lele pons and the paul brothers

[@samuelsuarez6972]

Well leafy made them huge bucks too your argument makes literally no sense

[@samuelsuarez6972]

@@Thomasjjhonek that’s so stupid why do you think pewdiepie is still a thing? He makes HUGE bucks like it’s insane same with leafy if you want to acknowledge it or not

[@largegummyhitman5786]

@@samuelsuarez6972 but he spoke out against that shitty susan wabojack

[@lokiteevee3514]

@@samuelsuarez6972 look at the people who appeared in the rewind

[@P_WeLearn]

@@Thomasjjhonek how is KZbin shunning pewdiepie?

[@benjamiIf]

Finally someone don't say that with a vpn you can watch more netflix

[@koops6899]

"KZbin never moved the goal post" "this new rule was implemented in 2019"

[@glitchking2801]

But that goes for every big company they have to change and adapt