Andrew Giles throws his department under the bus

[@richardlee6781]

Senator Patterson is very good at exposing the shortcomings of the public servicer. the public service is a joke. This woman gets paid a small fortune to fuck up every day

[@GEMelleeMaynopenottoday1133]

@richard..... You are so right, Senator Patterson is so great at exposing shortcomings and holding corrupt Senators/Ministers to account, and bringing the PS State/Federal and Senate to task towards honesty and transparency. I resigned from the PS (State) a few years ago. The wrong under qualified, ineffectual people of such self importance and absolute arrogance, are put in management/ hierarchy positions, and they are so inept in their daily dealings of their positions. It is nepotism and patronage in its highest forms. This is so dangerous on so many levels. Good employees are being muzzled and constrained, injured, and threatened by upper levels. The State and Federal Departments need bl..dy big enemas from the highest levels down. They need to get rid of the corrupt, deceitful, dishonest elements from the PM position down. Watching Senate in progress, some Minister's are so corrupt throwing their underling Senators under the bus to save themselves is so heinous. It's repugnant.

[@banjobluedog]

Giles is the personification of cowardice and incompetence

[@AA-oc9vu]

Excellent Senator, keep the Senate transparent and bring them to account.

[@mikehanlon8036]

Will Ms Foster hand back her salary taken under false pretences and resign for her negligence? I doubt it.

[@probrickieexclusive]

Bring back integrity to our nation thank you senator.

[@jamesbrown8173]

Thank you senator Paterson I had lost hope that serious politicans like yourself existed. Keep up the great work!

[@billyballsup2685]

Rennick an Roberts and a couple of other try as well. But there all ignored.

[@probrickieexclusive]

This has negligence and corruption written all over it.

[@TheCharger189]

Labor expect nothing less

[@cristinahague1433]

Failing upwards is a feature of a Labor led parliament... look at their ministers... incompetence on steroids.

[@captainmanic]

She takes responsibility, so is she resigning or being sacked? Responsibility without accountability is meaningless.

[@Bushkaboo]

She will line up for a huge bonus and get it no doubt.

[@brucestevens5318]

It's like the 'responsibility' Dan Andrews used to accept. He would blame others or simply respond, "I don't recall"!! Seems to be an Australian Labor Party trait.

[@TheCharger189]

Incompetence sack her now she has admitted it to the senate

[@Kelly-wf5ie]

SACK IT, no Resignation no “ benefits “ etc…

[@robertgatto6392]

Time to give out some gold watches.

[@jimgraham5221]

Please keep pushing for the answers Senator, great job

[@sylviawiese1816]

I don't believe that a series of bad immigration decisions is due to the Minister's incompetence. All the decisions have been quite deliberately fallen in favour of migrants over Australia citizens

[@stevebrown4475]

Finley someone else who sees what is really going on.

[@wadebruins4759]

Incompetence from top to bottom.

[@LanceGallagher-m3e]

Go James Expose the incompetence

[@christinecavanagh5906]

I don't know how senator Patterson has the patience to constantly put up with these people's response to his simple questions, he is a saint and should be applauded.

[@perpelflameandcompany]

Very humble, fair and lawful approach to questioning - Kudos, Senator Patterson

[@heatherstewart8452]

I want to see senator patterson as our next PM, he is what we need to put Australia back on track

[@Aussie53]

Agree 💯

[@mikehanlon8036]

Well done Senator Patterson. Looking forward to you being the minister of that department.

[@noel9868]

What a hopeless bunch, no wonder this department is such a mess 🤦‍♂️

[@Bushkaboo]

These incompetent people are great at getting bonuses, but it seems not much else.

[@gpgdjm3285]

This department is a complete waste of time. Their incompetence beggars belief and the fact she cannot provide any real answers to her continuous failures means she must go. The taxpayer is being robbed by her perpetual incompetence.

[@janc-xyz]

This lady is grasping at sraws and appears to be lying. I am presuming she will resign.

[@christinebell37]

Should

[@cristinahague1433]

Won't resign, where would she go and get such a cushy well paid job that allows her to fail upwards.... consistently.

[@sherns8926]

They never resign. No one ever takes responsibility. Surely if they are responsible and don't do the job they are sacked.... But if they don't remember, don't recall, or just mess up they just prevaricate and go back to their lovely job for life.

[@angusmckenzie9622]

Resign ? Are you mad ? Why would she ? Big salary, no responsibility for consequences ? Fat City.

[@peaceful3250]

They should all be sacked.

[@Roberta-anne]

Thank you Senator James Paterson for asking all the right questions. (The responses don't seem to inspire confidence. Don't they have audits. What about risk management - as the senator said the incident/s was of some gravity).

[@johnmcdonald8943]

Why is not Ms Foster then not resigning or being fired… otherwise, taking “responsibility” is just empty words.

[@simonemullucks9446]

💯!!!!!

[@perpelflameandcompany]

This is a fantastic way to call out individuals who are attempting to abscond their appointed (and applied for) commonwealth and government responsibilities - Great questioning and stance during this clip, Senator Patterson

[@Bushkaboo]

The AAT is no longer fit for purpose and needs to be disbanded.

[@John-gm8ty]

as usual senator. excellent job, working for Australians

[@tiesword3252]

SEN. J PATERSON...SPOT ON, LET THE PEOPLE LEARN THE TRUTH.....

[@Beatriz-lj2td]

This lady is full of doubts I don't think she knows what she is doing...every time I see her she is full of rectifying situations.. ha ha 🤣🤣

[@wayneappleby5763]

AND THE TAXPAYER PAYS THESE INCOMPETENT FOOLS

[@denisgately4701]

So worthy of a "Yes Minister" episode....if a staff member has stuffed up, the manager needs to make a decision : retrain or sack. And is she can so freely admit to a "leadership failure", then she should write the letter that starts "I hereby tender my resignation.....". God help us all, if this lot are running the country.

[@brentonporter1503]

How do they not know their numbers isn’t that their entire job 😂 I love seeing our tax’s being wasted… keep up the great work senator Patterson! Finally someone looking for answers and asking the important questions

[@ChingWong-b9w]

James you are so brilliant! Don’t let the two ministers to get away for not knowing their job duties and not doing their jobs for the best!

[@richardjidee5761]

Here is a good example of government waist of money,4 highly paid employees who don’t know what’s going on,thank you Senator Paterson.

[@Maj-zb9bg]

The huge salary's these public servants are on yet their performance is minimum wage standard !

[@charlenebotha7164]

Excellent questioning, these are honestly the most inadequate answers, and obvious people not doing their jobs

[@andrewb2326]

Bureaucrats. Who don't know which way is up. Pathetic. How far the APS has fallen. Disgrace.

[@jonfoxtrot5135]

And these bumbling clots have the gall to draw wages? A two part process! Great!

[@holdenrestoration2557]

Paid huge money and doesn't know a thing....Canberra.

[@anniroc1101]

Wow she’s willing to take the hit for the. Minister, maybe because she thinks there will be no consequences. There are people who resigned over a bottle of wine.

[@peaceful3250]

That bottle of wine was Grange Hermitage, worth thousands of dollars. Not only that, it was his birth year vintage. It was not a simple oversight or forgotten bottle of plonk.

[@debrahumphreys9305]

The people if Australia are expected to take responsible for their decisions and actions but not the Govt.

[@acitizen.5276]

this grey spends more time at the hair dresser than doing her $500K+ so called job

[@sigmaphysique]

$928,000

[@craigharris7236]

And people wonder why Anndrew Giles is still a Minister ? ...this is Beaurocratic bungling straight out of Yes Minister ....outrageous !!!

[@where_is_my_slippers]

Thank you, Senator. ❤🙏🏻

[@goosey1055]

What a load of rubbish, no one willing to take responsibility only big salaries. Keep at them Senator Patterson, I don’t know how you keep so calm when questioning them they are imbeciles.

[@suemcc36]

Senator James Paterson, keep at them & they just might start telling the truth. Thank you for your hard work.

[@amethystrose8769]

Well, clearly our Public Servants have a degree with high honours in obfuscation. Pity they don't have any other worthwhile credentials which might allow them to answer simple questions or actually do their jobs.

[@franhoffman8198]

And um..... and um....ah.... um ah...... really??? And we pay these people for???

[@evne1978]

Lies Lies and more Lies

[@vernonwhite4660]

Forget protocale Sack her !

[@mikehanlon8036]

Ms Foster is running the Department, not the Minister. Yes Minister in a bad way!

[@christopherpaterson3431]

Great work Senator the PS just collecting their money and don’t give A 🤬 what is the Ag minister trying to achieve just getting rid of our live export industry

[@perpelflameandcompany]

Great swift upload for all to see - Thank you Senator and Team

[@markward1473]

A mistake like this in the private sector would result in possibly multiple people getting fired? The lady questioned waffles about resource constraints but surely the information in this case would fall into the extreme high priority category which requires immediate action?

[@deanc6471]

Hey Senator, please chase up with the appropriate ppl why the oil & gas companies aren't paying their taxes and royalties! Our small business actually paid more in taxes than some of these companies that are taking our resources and making billion $ profits! The amount they owe could legitimately fix Australia's housing crisis, roads, hospitals, uni debts, prisons etc. Who are these companies paying off in Government and the ATO?

[@davefoord1259]

Send that as an email to your local member, all senators in your state, patterson personally. You have excellent points but on youtube doesnt go anywhere. Your voice needs to be heard because youre speakkng the truth

[@chopperking007]

100%

[@letmeexplain1816]

Great questions, and please present them to James Paterson.

[@deanc6471]

​@@davefoord1259 I personally have sent this, along with a non BS fact sheet on their tax returns etc. to my local members as well as all news groups several times because I was absolutely gobsmacked when I found this out! Not a single reply. I'm now firmly convinced that nobody wants to rock the boat or are being paid off. Just crazy!

[@deanc6471]

​@@davefoord1259 ​ I personally have sent this, along with a non BS fact sheet on their tax returns etc. to my local members as well as all news groups several times because I was absolutely astounded when I found this out! Not a single reply. I'm now firmly convinced that nobody wants to rock the boat or are being paid off. Just unbelievable.

[@sarini44]

Why is the only answer these government departments give is "we need more money"?

[@ekka6560]

Yes Senator, we are incompetent, we don't know what we are doing or what anyone else is doing or where they are at the moment however, I can't wait for payday so I can go on my next holiday. Any other questions, because the pub will be closing soon and it's nearly lunchtime, next?

[@judibee28]

“It’s a lesson for [her]” - someone gets murdered, and she just thinks she’s learned HER lesson and just move on? What loss has SHE incurred, what PENALTY???!!!

[@johnmcdonald8943]

To these people know anything? The incompetence is oozing from their mouths. Your incompetence, ignorance is not an excuse, you should be fired.

[@RumperTumskin]

It's almost as if the Senator elected by popular vote is more competent than the "senior leaders" who rose to the very top of the public service based on their "merit"?

[@PennyEv4]

Seriously! How hard is it to send an email to the minister? However, Giles should have been proactive- he introduced Direction 99, and it's his job to oversee the consequences.

[@riordan39]

These people are just not answering honestly. They are experts at not answering anything. Highly paid public servants who stuff up and can't handle their responsibilities. Wasted space.

[@KIA-MIA-POW]

Ladies and gentlemen, you are watching the alleged best the Australian Public Service has. These folk command six-figure salaries, and undoubtedly, a fifth grader could do better

[@birtlee2078]

If she is head of the department assessing criminals - it is scary!!!!

[@paulhughes7366]

What a incompetent joke this labor government is so terrible

[@FrankFrankston-kj4sx]

Someone was murdered! She should resign in disgrace.

[@polw3785]

Can we please have a minimum IQ requirement for people in public office??

[@user-tq4zm9yr6l]

what do these public servants get paid for.Surely they should be advising the minister .This is just total bulls….

[@debrashawcross170]

These people are diabolic. Why are they in position of power with such incompetence! Thank you for exposing it.

[@senalmudaliar9542]

Sack yourself if you can't do your job!

[@allenknapp3416]

Seems hard to get a straight answer, just talking in circles

[@IanDennis-c6t]

What a pathetically awkward and unconvincing leadership display by the Secretary of this Department.....hopeless, and on big money. She should go.

[@garage3119]

Jesus's wept. These people being asked questions are the ultimate description of ineptness. This country is doomed if this is the best we have got. Keep the pressure up Senator.

[@letmeexplain1816]

I agree with you, but I would go as far as to say that these people are wicked and evil, the whole panel reek of corruption !!

[@gregwaghorn8496]

He's speeding back to parliament

[@nk60001]

Good old Canberra bureaucrats. Hang around long enough and you fall into a job. Qualified or not.

[@chopperking007]

Soft spoken liars and question avoiders

[@birtlee2078]

The Minister looks like he’s just realised he’s got 3 incompetents at the helm!

[@stevieBJ7]

Lots of buses and throwing under said buses. This is how BIG govt works.

[@roz7441]

Amazing how many times those being questioned say, the person best to answer this is not here, or we will need to take that question on notice. They never give an honest answer.

[@hope23-wp3rz]

Considering her role we would expect more informed and detailed responses. Is she normally this incompetent?

[@thomaskatsopoulos880]

She needs to go or resign ASAP 🤮🤮🤮

[@roselewsley4125]

As Judge Judy would say " Umm, is not an answer! "

[@auzonedave5403]

The Dept of Home Affairs has a staff of around 13.5 - 14 thousand and a 9.5 billion dollar budget, yet cannot organise someone / anyone to keep an eye on what the AAT is up to..seriously!!

[@SR-kt9qt]

you'd think with her Arts Bach she would be a gun as Secretary of the Department of Home Affairs

[@johnhamilton1791]

Lying for the minister is not a good look

[@sherns8926]

Don't be silly, they are completely apolitical!!!😅

[@pharmfurion4969]

If I make a mistake 1/1000th of this gravity- there disciplinary action, I will undoubtedly lose my job- and probably have my reputation tarnished for the rest of my career- in a job that affects only one patients safety at a time, not millions of peoples' safety. There really should be no wiggle room for mistakes in her position. It is unforgivable- and absolutely atrocious that it takes the studious prying that Senator Paterson undertakes in order to unearth it.

[@jefferyhill6245]

She should resign as a result of her acknowledged incompetence! She is obviously not up to the job!

[@johnlonghurst9265]

We are not responsible!!!!

[@irwin641]

Are these people competent in their position??? I don’t think so, this is disgusting how much are they wasting of our money?

[@Maj-zb9bg]

This is a great script for a comedy show !

[@stuartwait3886]

Thank you Senator for trying to keep them honest.

[@markadams9529]

Firstly congratulations Senator Patterson on your persistence and surgical like intellect- keep up the great work (and the pressure!) One of the basic tenets of introducing an organisational change - ie ministerial instruction #99 for both the minister and the secretary is to firstly assess and plan its implementation (things like resourcing impacts spring to mind - just saying) and then post implementation to monitor the outcome ie “is this change doing what we thought- if not why not etc” From the answers delivered it appears this was not done at all - management 101! Is this really the standard of the skill set of both the minister and the secretary?? Additionally in any other workplace if a management failure directly contributed to the death of another individual there would be legal consequences for those failures. No doubt there is some legislative ‘ get out of jail free card’ that will prevent any real scrutiny to be applied.

[@davefoord1259]

Does anyone in labor ever take responsibility? Next time you get a speeding fine try your defense i didnt have the speed signs bought to my attention

[@rosswebb9295]

What a bunch of arse protectors.

[@Mark-un4fy]

Homeaffairs is on a downward projection bring back a real leader get rid off mama Smurf

[@garymeadows1771]

Incompetent Public Servant .Would not get a job anywhere else.

[@johnodwyer6971]

Wow what a joke

[@jeffreycooper1336]

Incompetent department run by lazy public servants.

[@djsfang]

OMG, APS has failed miserably and systematically under this Labour government. Shame! Shame! Shame!

[@Ernst12]

Without implicating anyone specific, I sense that the general culture appears to have lack the drive or being committed to the job, to do the job correctly the first time, and to keep tab of what when wrong. If this isn't done, there is no chance to remediate incompetence or unsatisfactory performance under a process of the continuous improvement cycle in pursuit towards high quality job performance. Not specifically referring to this case but from other Senate estimate hearings I get the impression that part of the PS in Canberra is getting bogged down and entangled in interdepartmental processes such that decisions and information transfer to ministers is impeded or paralyzed. The excuse that "we haven't got enough resources" reminds me of the typical union culture cost+ mentality always screaming for more resources instead of looking at opportunities to work more efficiently. This type of behaviour would not be tolerated in the private sector and if a department manager (or whatever) comes whinging to one's manage about not having enough resources, one will be told to just work more efficiently with the resources available. The culture in the private sector is that the job that needs to be done correctly and must be done on time and excuses such as what we see in these Senate estimate hearing are not acceptable. It the private sector such oversights are not excusable and it will bring into question as to one's competence to do the job according to the job description. Mishandling of one's job responsibilities and not producing the quality outcomes required will commence a staged warning level that will lead to dismissal if not fixed.

[@robberlin2230]

From what i hear Giles is gone by end of financial year. Hes got the chance to clean up the mess and then he's leaving

[@patricksharp1063]

Thank you senator Paterson for your overview

[@DanWhe]

Accountability only exists when there are consequences; simply owning the error and covering incompetence is not accountability, it’s culpability.