Andrew Wilson vs. College Feminist REMATCH | Whatever Debates #5

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🕘 Timestamps: 0:00 Introduction 0:50 Introduction of guests 1:50 Their disagreements laid out ❗ 3:00 The equal force objection 7:30 If desired, men can take away female rights 15:50 The dissolution of women's rights 19:20 Why did you need feminism? 22:50 A contradiction/schrodinger's feminist 25:30 Child-rearing and priorities 27:00 Political pressure 28:50 How did we get here? 32:30 The removal of God 34:00 Redirection The definition of feminism 35:30 Women's oppression + justice 40:30 Christian Ethics vs Relativism 43:40 What is oppression? 48:00 Losing the moral high ground 49:20 The right to vote 52:20 Birth control and the causation for declining birth rates 55:30 Plastics vs Birth control 57:30 The population bomb 1:01:00 The decline of Nuclear Family television 1:03:50 The ideology of abortion 1:07:30 The start of personhood 1:10:50 Would You Rathers 1:13:00 Pregnancy protocol❗ 1:19:40 Child support before child birth 1:20:50 What ought to replace the patriarchy 1:24:20 Divorce and happier children 🔥 1:26:30 Superchats 1:28:10 Can you be sexist towards men? 1:30:00 The principle of force 1:34:20 Can you be racist towards white people? 🔥 1:39:30 What matters more? What's worse? 1:45:10 The laws of logic and ethics 1:49:00 Morality 1:50:40 Return to abortion 1:53:30 Justification for killing and the semantics of personhood 1:59:00 The wage gap 2:01:50 Female sports 2:02:50 Military conscription 2:08:40 Disqualification from voting based on selective service 2:10:00 The process for justice 2:15:40 Superchat + Q&A 2:17:20 Enslavement 2:22:50 Return to superchats 2:27:20 Closing statements❗ 2:31:40 Superchats

[@TokupuChophi-b6u]

Andrew is very Intellectual Man his patience is outstanding and very respectful even to Toxic Feminist 🎉Brian I wish to see Andrew Debate withWell known intellectual Feminist 😂

[@kamdhatt7648]

Shes nuts

[@Omar_ToxicBanana1701]

imagine if Andrew Wilson can have this debate with each and every feminist, the only feminists that will remain are lesbans who hate men because of all their straight-girl crushes.

[@Omar_ToxicBanana1701]

ok let me tell the story of Beeqa RIP...he was a menally ill man (basically a cild in a man's body)..he used to walk the streets of our neighborhood bare-footed, dity dressed...Beeqa had a clap, SO loud it could be heard 4 5 blocks away in the day time...I'd say it could be heard anywhere in the town if it's night time...now Beeqa just walks and makes speeches while walking...mostly describing what the last car he saw did just nowor something catchy just happened...and he would separate his sentences with a loud clap...like "did you see that son of a %$#%$ followed by a big clap,"he passed by me fast"-*CLAPPP*, as if he didn't see me"-*CLAPPP*, "write down the car number"-*CLAPPP*...or like "there was a fire"-CLAPPP, "the fire fighters arrived"-CLAPPP ,"thank God they saved them"-CLAPPP..now in similar cases there actually would be a fire, which happened like 2 years ago :/...also I'm from a society of aranged marriages and beeqa would jump in any wedding happening and dance the h out of the floor...and then he runs away when all the celebratory 🔫 start......now for a kid who gets scared of the dark night, it was always comforting to me and would make me feel safe hiding under the blanket, just hearing Beeqa's loud clap, knowing there are stray dogs and all the imaginary stuff parents scare their childen into bed with so they can get to business...just hearing that man's clap 8 9 10 blocks away, just made me feel safe "Beeqa is here" someone is out there...well unfortnately Beeqa was K ed by the US army after the occupation (no details necessary)...I think the Americans were patroling the area and Beeqa used to Clap loud and always carries a stick..and he wouldn't respond to any kind of "drop it, put your hands behind your back"...looks like the americans thought he was trying to atak them so yeah RIP...now the americans had compensated his family we knew that his oldest sister who took care of was compensated with a constant monthly salary as he was considered a marty....so the Americans actually redeemed themself...we even heard the M1A1 gunne who downed him started cfying because they soon figured what was going on...so yeah...the Americans did what they had to do...now you might be asking what does this have to do the podcast...well Brixan looks like Beeqa with the beard 😂...bro please los the beard 😅

[@YoYo-bx8wu]

​@@kamdhatt7648 Well you know what they say.. "You're what you eat"..

[@TeleologicalConsistency]

Feminism was ended in Afghanistan in under 24 hours after the Taliban rolled into Kabul and the US military men evacuated. That's how quickly it changes.

[@chrismizuno239]

But women aren't oppressed, right?

[@KorruptedFlame]

@@chrismizuno239 No, cause if they were, then by that logic, children are also oppressed :3

[@ZShenlong1]

@@chrismizuno239 There are oppressive regimes and unoppressive regimes, The problem with feminism is the claim that patriarchy itself is oppressive. There is a stark difference between 1915-1960 USA and modern Afghanistan.

[@Kleithap]

@@chrismizuno239> but women aren’t oppressed right? Can you actually define oppression? Let’s assume they are oppressed. Are they equal to men? If so, they should be able to end their oppression by force right? If they can’t, how are they equal?

[@Kleithap]

@@chrismizuno239 you just gave two definitions of oppression. One is historical patterns of mistreatment and one is inequality. Which is it?

[@romyclips6479]

Typical feminist: "I'm very confident in my worldview, I just can't logically or intellectually defend it."

[@terrylandess6072]

I see the results of entitlement overriding the slow but relentless progress of society as it rises above it's foundation. In other words - "We Want Now" seems to be the cry of every part of society enjoying freedoms they never had before. By pushing beyond societies means to acclimate - they hurt the progress already made and stifle what has been accomplished to date. When someone opens the door to talk - you don't try to kick it down. Geesh!

[@patrickluchycky1172]

Fucking bingo!!!!!

[@BryanWynn-vf2ej]

And this is what happens when you live in the safest country and time on earth, you can have indefensible and irrational views..... without consequences.

[@paulcarfantan6688]

@@terrylandess6072 So true.

[@JSmoothSoul]

That's the typical leftist in general

[@BDub2024]

She is arguing that a minute before a child is born that they aren't human. How ridiculous. Horrible really.

[@1R3TR0]

And with her thinking a man who didn't want to pay child support shouldn't be charged with murder if they stopped the baby being born, just assault on a pregnant woman!

[@BDub2024]

@@1R3TR0 They are only interested in an ideology. We get the same with indigenous rights. The indigenous communities actually want alcohol banned in some areas. They also want in many communities for the women to be paid child support and unemployment benefits in food cards. The govt supported it. Then the left wing govt came in. First thing they did is removed alcohol bans and then make the food cards non compulsory. Ideology first. Outcome? Drunkeness, assaults, domestic violence, husbands forcing wives to hand over all the money for alcohol, kids neglected with parents unavailable, kids not eating... I should point out the majority of the indigenous are productive members of the society and protect their families. but addiction is a curse. My point is more about how the left choose ideology over actually helping people live.

[@charetjc]

She said they are human. She said they are not a person a minute before birth. She could not define person beyond "something that leaves the birth canal". I suppose she sees "person" as a title that is earned, like how "winner" is earned by the first person (rimshot) to cross the finish line. But if that was the case, "person" is more like a participation trophy everyone gets whether they cross the finish line first, last, or in between, but only if they finish the race.

[@CakeMelons]

That is horrible. I guess we're f'ed.

[@throwaway5926]

That’s not quite correct. She didn’t say they’re not human, she said they’re not a person.

[@lisabuckner243]

I have to give some props to the girl for not being a complete ding bat! She was respectful, had an open mind, listened to Andrew & wasn’t combative/ didn’t walk off stage. She’s still very young & inexperienced in this world.

[@HolyMith]

Yeah she had the guts to come on an have a discussion in a respectful manner. More than can be said for a lot of young women. She wasn't great at articulating her points and went off topic often, but she is young and is still learning.

[@nightwingvyse]

Agreed. As feminists go she was actually very reasonable, measured and put serious thought into arguments she disagrees with, despite having some insane takes. The irony is that if all feminists were like her, feminism wouldn't even exist anymore.

[@laurarominger2073]

I agree

[@kornelijekovac9793]

She was until 52:37. Up until then she was totally OK, but in that moment it all went down.

[@cuzzohh2768]

She was absolutely fucking crazy.

[@billkeilitz2373]

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

[@nobiden3134]

The HR director of NGMS Sunnyvale is a prime example of that..

[@Thumper68]

He clearly proved that since his names Samuel Langhorne Clemens not Mark Twain.😂

[@multiSPEEDitUP]

this is my childs mother, and me trying to tell her that she is being manipulated by her family

[@alexanderTheVegan]

So basically the debate was this: Her: "I believe X because Y". Him: "Define Y." Her: "Yeah, I don't have a definition." 🤡🤡🤡

[@mouadyoubiidrissi7493]

best summary ever

[@SaralinaLove]

genius

[@terrylandess6072]

Lack of wisdom leaves room for based interpretation. To me this is like digging up the corpse of something I already knew.

[@paulcarfantan6688]

Pretty much, lol.

[@looweegee252]

That's basically any argument with a Leftist. When you identify terms their argument disintegrates

[@RaycerX19]

Feminism requires you to A) Have stable country of laws. B) Suspend logic, reality and use dillusions of varying sizes to create a bridge to equality.

[@captain_orange]

*delusions

[@attilathorbjornsson1519]

She proclaims women are oppressed, however is unable to define what oppression is! 🧐

[@The_Crayon_God]

Attention is their oxygen, validation is their currency, and accountability is their kryptonite.

[@thatsmynamesowhat2949]

Yes, yes, and yes.

[@TheHillrat4wd]

I'm stealing this 👍

[@ricksmith7659]

Well put

[@SaralinaLove]

Yup. Same for everything. Unfortunately the sykoz who own all the banks - he bang k stor mah pheuh never ever take responsibility responsibility except amongst themselves in their gen no sidull maniacal machinations 😢

[@seymourbuttz2253]

No disrespect to you whatsoever Saralina... but what the phuck 🤯

[@forgivenone8252]

This is not a debate. Its a woman getting educated. This is a tutoring session. Emotionalism never triumphs truth.

[@franzosisch5965]

"a women"

[@Nazareneprotestant]

Cringe cliche comment

[@forgivenone8252]

@smh9112 your comment out did me on cringe.

[@Nazareneprotestant]

@@forgivenone8252cringe cliche comment

[@Atheist272]

Andrew Wilson is talking presupp nonsense.

[@Monster_2_82]

she doesn't fail to recognize it, she just refuses to admit it because there are no negative consequences for her not admitting it

[@hansgullickson4080]

Truth

[@patrickluchycky1172]

Fucking bingo!!!!!

[@XxGreatestyouknoWxX]

Yes there is. She's destroying her own reputation and embarrassing her family.

[@pokiejackson3364]

Not yet. But if women continue down this path and men continue to allow it, there will eventually be horrific consequences born from these delusions.

[@alrune8]

If she admits it, her fellow women will expel her.

[@bryanketler9354]

A friend who was pregnant just recently had her twins at 5 1/2 months. They are strong and healthy and doing great. If this woman was planning on aborting them at six months because she believes they’re not a human yet how are these two babies living and thriving being born at 5 1/2 months?

[@beanybabyrabie]

Don’t forget all the times doctors have pressured abortion due to “defects” and the mother refusing just to give birth to a perfectly healthy baby

[@rhondadavis1483]

@ Brian I just said the same thing to my husband last night…our daughter gave birth to her twins at 24 weeks and her daughter at 27 weeks due to issues being able to carry full term. The twins stayed in NICU for several months, they are happy and healthy 16 year olds today🥰 Our granddaughter didn’t have to stay in the NICU at all, she was just small. She is a happy and healthy 12 year old today😍 We can’t imagine life without them! The thing that so many women and men do t understand about an unplanned pregnancy is IF you can put your big girl panties on(or man up as the case may be) you will find that children in your life is a beautiful blessing! You will grow in love, compassion and selflessness. And have the joy we have as grandparents when you are older!

[@okumakamizu3030]

It's not about logic or morality. It's about freedom and power. - She should be able to skirt responsibilities for choices and decisions she made. - She should be able to baby trap a man if she wants to. - She should be able to make a man indebted to her if she wants to. - She should have societal and lawful levers to subjugate a man if she wants to. - She should be able to discard men at any number at any time she wants to with no ramifications or judgment. Logic is undeniable. It's not about justice, logic, morality, or kids' welfare. It's about power undeserved and unchecked. Sure they would exercise self accountability, be responsible, and everything will be just fine.

[@alisabelove6254]

Let me break it down as a 50 year old woman. I've been married 30 years. We have 4 children. We are happy. I stayed at home with our children and went to college. I worked part-time for 20 years. I now work for an industry that is 90% male. I am their manager. The company is owed by men. I make six figures and all the men I work with are very protective and helpful to me. They respect me and my husband. I don't vote. I'm not oppressed. I'm happy and the patriarchy has helped me be successful.

[@robertvalle7067]

Now you should cater to your Husband....end of your story

[@alisabelove6254]

@@robertvalle7067 I've been catering to my husband, that never changes.

[@alisabelove6254]

@@robertvalle7067 just curious, how long have you been marrie

[@BBB-rd2qi]

@@alisabelove6254- My story is similar to yours. I had my children later, after 35. I was an executive and unsure I wanted to have children. It was a extremely important to my husband and I couldn’t deny him. My greatest joy was raising our three children as a stay at home mom. We would have been married 29 years in October. My husband passed away three years ago.

[@MrPoppyJunior]

@@BBB-rd2qigod bless you and your beautiful children! Condolences to your husband. I’m sure he’s looking down with a huge smile on his face!

[@redneckrambo9626]

This wasn't a debate. It was an education.

[@socrates2788]

Truly. Even I was educated here.

[@Hellonerds09]

Yet Andrew cancelled on two people last minute because he got scared 😂 he chose to debate a young college girl instead. Loser

[@socrates2788]

@@Hellonerds09who did he cancel on?

[@arcadianlhadattshirotsughW33Z]

it was like those scenes from 1984 where o'brian tortures wilson.. except the torturer was the one being truthful

[@arcadianlhadattshirotsughW33Z]

@@Hellonerds09 has your religion been tarnished and your super scared?

[@cyrishtan7578]

And she just won’t accept the fact that her thought process is illogical. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@onthebrink1111]

Have you looked through your own comment section? These people have the logic of a turtle. Smart people do not feel the need to seek attention on youtube comments. You are just as dumb as she is. She however gets money out of it. While you seek attention from strangers.

[@zamirzilberman2550]

It's creepy that she knows it's immoral to abort a baby a day before it's born, and still insists on "personhood".

[@FinalWaveFeminism]

What's interesting to note here is that this woman is intelligent and articulate - and yet has never been in an intellectual dialogue like this - nor had her beliefs challenged. The question is... WHY ARE MILLIONS OF WOMEN (or anyone for that matter) paying BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS of dollars to support institutions that are - at best - literal indoctrination camps? After college I started reading the real classics, all kinds of "banned (from University's)" books, the bible, and actually studying theology (unlike it's taught in school). It was infuriating I wasted so much of my youth being indoctrinated with lies. They're destroying our women, our culture, our very lives. It has to end. And Women will (unfortunately) be in our way... but we have to just ignore them and march forth to better the world and reconquer it - for everyone's sake. Or it's back to the stone ages.

[@Robobotic]

I wonder who they are

[@blaze666-j2f]

It's too late...

[@allenoverall7361]

I've noticed this as well. It seems like a lot of women don't normally get push back to their thought process around things. In other women they would attack emotionally but she's a bit rational at times

[@ng4logic]

Because it is scientifically proven that school system, I mean how it is set up now, is more friendly to woman and woman type of learning

[@elijiahburgess5506]

@@Roboboticno idea

[@david8905]

"I agree with you, but..." "I agree with you, but..." "I agree with you, but..."

[@GPS08]

It's more like: "I agree with you, but I FEEL" Emotional charged mindset.

[@BunnyWatson-k1w]

That's typical female pushing back. They say "Yeah, but..." when they are presented with facts.

[@chasemudd9040]

​@@GPS08THIS!!!

[@insightfulsounds5644]

"women are up in their feels whilst men are up in the reals"

[@EricCubed956]

Which is a valid response to moving forward with a clear Socratic dialogue.

[@ThingAnderson]

This little girl keeps talking in circles trying to rationalize and justify her nonsense.

[@dtownblastinsalvi62]

I mean his whole argument about force with weapons is the dumbest I’ve heard I haven’t seen a man survive a gun to the head and that’s a fact there’s some but not many

[@hdcvo2570]

That’s what they do. Why men get tired of listening.

[@charetjc]

@@dtownblastinsalvi62 If there is only one guy, then yea, I can see how you'd think it's dumb. Now look at reality. I mean really look at it. Look at every gun store you can find. Count how many men vs women run the store. If men aren't selling ammo to women, men will eventually gain an advantage. Look at every man and woman you come across and ask yourself, "which one would find the capacity first to use violence and not miss?" The fight doesn't end because one guy took a bullet to the head. Andrew's point is that women have to find enough exceptional women who can do that job again and again and again until "all women win", while the majority of men are good enough to take out the smaller force of exceptional women.

[@DissidentPrick]

Exactly, she is mentally a child.

[@vaultboy1419]

It's not even her nonsense. She's just parroting what she was taught. Yet you can see she's smart. She will come to her senses one day I hope. Like somebody else in the comments here said, after she has her first child with a good man, the feminism will leave her mind forever.

[@ryanlipple6854]

Feminism is women saying, ‘I don’t like not having your power. I’m unable to take your power. So, you must give it to me.”

[@RiderofTime]

This is sad. This is an intelligent woman with her potential wasted on illogical propaganda.

[@SaralinaLove]

Well said

[@jasonu3741]

@@SaralinaLove People getting really mad at her I think are too young to see that she is merely an indoctrinated child. Her beliefs are not the fault of her but rather the generation that created the conditions in which she was raised and taught. Andrew should have asked where she differs from modern or mainstream thought and or belief systems to test this.

[@Ben-fx8lg]

She’s too smart to be this dumb… Hoping she has an enlightened wake-up…. There’s a Catholic saying…. Some of the best Catholics are former Protestants/Atheists..

[@paulcarfantan6688]

@@jasonu3741 Yes, she didn`t create the brainwashing, she was just brainwashed.

[@MetalDeathHead]

did you call her intelligent??🤣

[@bradymitten]

This isn’t a debate. This is Andrew educating a feminist about reality.

[@romanromero5099]

Reality? That’s a very subjective statement. As a man I don’t agree with many things he said and all his foundation is based on the fact that a male is physically stronger than a female, yet this by its definition has nothing to do with morals.

[@Iknowurconfused]

HaHAHAHAHAHA THEY'RE SO OBTUSE IT'S SAD BUT THAT'S FEMALES

[@Herb_Nation]

🎯🎯💯

[@virtuallyme2518]

As well as dictionary meanings of simple words… If you can’t conduct a conversation without needing to refer to google… which sooooo many people need to do these days… you shldnt take Andrew on… he’ll wipe the floor with you… without even trying.

[@robert3829]

Education usually requires some level of comprehension, not sure she is capable of that part of the process. You are too kind to here.

[@alienmatters3106]

Its scary she doesn't understand that no sociopath or fascist cares about committing a faux pas. Only good men, with guns and force protect their rights

[@tiagopacheco4654]

Proclaim said rights, and protect/enforce them We do all the work and they feel entitled

[@pokiejackson3364]

I wonder how much longer good men will continue doing this. I no longer feel any desire whatsoever to protect them.

[@Lane-wf2er]

@@pokiejackson3364me neither. There’s nothing in it for us.

[@Syzygy77]

What Andrew is saying is that “women’s rights” are actually women’s privileges.

[@kremzenzer0]

This girl in my eyes has no humanity.

[@PAULDOUGLAS08]

I see satanist. She just doesn’t now she is working for him.

[@chickenmadness1732]

"poop isn't poop until it's in the toilet" LMAO

[@JohnDoe-wd8rs]

You saw 2 girls 1 cup too?

[@zulusheksta1985]

@@JohnDoe-wd8rs 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CornKneelyUs]

😂😂😂😂

[@nickbearden8508]

@@JohnDoe-wd8rsthe girl in this podcast was the lead in it.

[@mikehawkertz9237]

What an amazing retort

[@adamthompson9286]

If this is what "College level critical thinking," we're f*cked.

[@Kunfucious577]

True. This is what universities should be teaching students. Teach them how to think and explain why they hold their beliefs. This girl is just regurgitating things she was told to memorize. She doesn’t really know why her ideas are true but she knows they are.

[@LoveQuestWithLisaConcepcion]

Dumbest people these days are college grads

[@chalp1290]

This young woman is pretty impressive. You might want to check yourself. Go out into society and talk to a 20 something female. She's top percentage.

[@chrishayes5755]

@@chalp1290 Yes. She deserves quite a lot of respect. She's not some rabid feminist she-beast who hates men. She's a highly intelligent, well spoken woman who cares about women's rights. She went up against a heavy hitter and I won't say she held her own because she didn't offer too much substance in return, but she carried herself well and wasn't aggressive, showed rational thought, open-mindedness etc.

[@adamthompson9286]

@@chalp1290 so, you're just proving my point 🤦‍♂️

[@iron4321]

This isn’t a debate. This is just witnessing someone being deprogrammed from a cultish ideology.

[@danieldenton5721]

She probably didn't learn anything and will leave with the same mindset she came in with.

[@aretwodeetoo1181]

​@@danieldenton5721Indoctrination took her whole life, what did you expect? But if we're optimistic, maybe it planted a seed.

[@EricCubed956]

It must be nice to exist as a non-critically thinking person.

[@Betterthanfresh]

Brainwashing is real

[@robertkidd1268]

Sadly seen her on whatever a few times since this debate it didn't help.

[@mtrichie111]

I love how group podcasts have dwindled down to one on ones, like genuinely speaking. Much less chaos and more valuable dialogues

[@uk5g262]

Superchats never fail to interrupt and ruin the flow of the conversation !

[@zzzzzdagod8973]

i wish he would turn that off and just read them during like a break

[@SteveWillNotDoIt1984]

And if there's ever a long pause without one, Brian will be sure to interrupt and "Bring the flow back in line" or some other form of cringe ass line... I wonder how many times Andrew sits there quietly, but in his mind he's thinking ""Boy, what in the world would I do without Brian here to keep my debates flowing?""..... Andrew needs Brian for flow, about as bad as an African elephant needs a breadcrumb to prevent starvation

[@terrylandess6072]

Also they are unvetted opinions interjected into a controlled conversation - so odd.

[@INeedJesus55]

Yeah, very annoying.

[@michaelhartford8464]

She 100% believes if a pregnant mother was killed it would be a double homicide. She took the stance of a single homicide soley because she would contradict herself. The need to be right instead of finding the truth is insane

[@blakehansen5434]

Even when they’re inconsistent they’re consistent. And when they’re consistent they’re inconsistent.

[@movesbooze]

Never underestimate the ability of a woman to dodge accountability.

[@kokonanana1]

Women understand women and they hate each other. - Al Bundy

[@TheZealotsDen]

​@blakehansen5434 hahahaha

[@aretwodeetoo1181]

She truly believes if it's in a woman it's part of the mother and cant be its own person. It's just "her body her choice" after it gets pushed logically. So no, she doesn't see it as a double murder.

[@ConstantChinner]

LOL. Women like this vote! Now THAT is scary!

[@TEMPESTsonofThunder]

Wait till you learn there are men this stupid too. It’s a problem with liberals, not women.

[@Rivershield]

This woman is actually more intelligent and brave than most women, because most women have never and would never engage in a debate at all. They just accept whatever they perceive as an authority figure imposes on them. Therefore, I argue that no woman should vote. Even if a woman is more than inteligent than most, she should also not vote as to not set a precedent.

[@Hurpooter]

Men like you vote .. scary. Thank God for birth control

[@crazygirl6683]

As a woman, I got shivers at the 9 month baby is not a human thing. I'm not even religious, but I believe she is possessed by a demon. There is no way a biological woman who has the ability to carry life into the world can think like this without being posessed by pure evil. I'm sick. I am shook 😳. These feminists are insane.

[@Legionope]

@@ZealousPower Yeah, I'm at a loss for words too by her lack of logic around the question: 'Can you be racist towards white people?' The sheer mental gymnastics of her denying that it's a thing is insane. Proper respect to Andrew for breaking it down and showing us all how ridiculous that is.

[@JK-eo2mj]

37:30 Just because you already have a made-up book of rules doesn't mean that those rules are better than those developed by others as the situation(s) arise...and perhaps amended as things change?

[@JakeV1994]

This is way better than 10 women bitching at one dude haha

[@seanfuller3760]

And that's facts

[@anthonym840]

To be fair they needed the numbers to debate with Andrew. Lol

[@xotixlol5763]

@@anthonym840it’s not even a debate when it’s a full panel it’s just name calling, scoffing, and etc

[@anthonym840]

@@xotixlol5763 Well thats their fault. They never wanted to get to the meat of what was being talked about because the conversation moves from simple questions to arguements about the questions, to adhomeniem.

[@xotixlol5763]

@@anthonym840 yeah realistically the girls that come on the show aren’t interested in having their mind changed. You can’t have a debate if no one is willing to concede. They just come on for various reasons other than to be intellectually challenged. And the very few who do try and debate don’t debate in good faith so it’s a waste of time either way

[@iwurm]

She's adorable... She hasn't made a coherent argument for any of the topics... but I do give her points for not shouting over him in lieu of having an actual argument. She admits throughout the debate that she doesn't have answers or she doesn't understand things... Most feminists use shouting as an argument when they don't have an answer or rational argument.

[@kliersheed]

yeah shes fixable :"D. fixable as in i can discuss with her for 10 years to reverse brainwash her into a normal human being without wanting to choke her out after 30 min of senseless screaming and "i just dont want to" or "i dont feel like that" or "i think thats different" arguments. Edit: im 56 min in and i take it back shes lost :d

[@odilneto5812]

She's awesome. Cute, feminine and intelligent. Even thought she's been brainwashed.

[@welewele7284]

she is in her child tantrum mode who eager to shouting over and over

[@rhondadavis1483]

@@odilneto5812I agree 💯 I hope he gave her a copy of Rachel’s book lol

[@Sweeptheleg83]

I don't think she's that bad actually, just extremely naive. She just hasn't woken up to the realities of the world. And yes, she's not bad looking at all. Compared to a lot of the insane chicks you see spouting feminist rhetoric, id say she's attractive. I think there's hope for her. She was respectful and didn't talk over Andrew. This was very cordial which isn't always the case in these debates.

[@josephweimers4021]

Only a woman who has never had a baby can say such evil heartless words.

[@JohnDoe-wd8rs]

My wife’s exact point, she said if a woman had her beliefs after having a child is more than likely mentally I’ll or being paid to have that stance… I couldn’t agree more, my wife was noticeably pissed off after hearing this fool.

[@alexhooi7268]

Or, more likely, has faced unwanted pregnancy and undergone the procedure before, and has faced social backlash for that decision. Therefore having to make up arbitrary justifications to keep maintaining the internal view of herself as a good person instead of admitting to herself that she's done something unconscionable.

[@vaultboy1419]

@@alexhooi7268 Abortion due to unwanted pregnancy makes you say that it's not a person a minute before it's born?

[@alexhooi7268]

@@vaultboy1419 I said nothing of the sort. If you can't figure out the point of my statement, please go back to school for reading comprehension lessons.

[@vaultboy1419]

@alexhooi7268 I wasn't aware schools are teaching to run away from answering a simple question.

[@cathylucas3653]

Oppression is making someone pay for another person’s lifestyle choices

[@frikyouall]

Hon, a person who is murdered at 9 months pregnant ABSOLUTELY knows they're at least in danger. There is no lack of evidence of this. They attack the tools. A family member at 8 months learned the difference between tapping and rubbing from the inside, and tapped/rubbed right along. When you have witnessed a pregnancy from beginning to end, things becomes much less morally gray. That is absolutely a conscious person.

[@mikiyomccormick3891]

Man you are an idiot we know for ages that tons of hormone-simulating substances in our environment makes male sperms to be deformed and year by year the fertility of men gets worse!! Where do you live? Never read Silent Spring?? Never heard of the crocodiles who turn more ore less into females because estrogen-simulating substances are poured into the great lakes??? What did you expect that Superman would be able to save you? Thats what you so beloved Patriarchy does for it's men!! Keep on ignoring that! Well, yes, the birthrate sank with abortion and birth control but what you always ignore is that the cases of women who died under birth also sank and the rate of starved, abandoned and killed children! You make such a fuss about the unborn but you give a f*ck for the born children they are just their mother's problems!!

[@JonBovi007]

"Schrodinger's feminist, I'm a strong empowered woman but also a victim at the same exact time" pure gold! 👌🤘

[@joebyu]

"PURE GOOOOOLD"

[@captain_orange]

​@@MM-lg4nihe is one of them, his checkered shirt pattern and hand gestures signal illuminati and Freemason.

[@captain_orange]

Controlled opposition

[@captain_orange]

​@@MM-lg4nihe is in the club. His checkered shirt signals illuminati and Freemason along with gestures throughout.

[@jesseewinberry]

A political science degree, that's an expensive way to say you're going to be professionally unemployed....

[@josephcoon5809]

Poli Sci 101: politics is the antithesis to economics.

[@OFFICIALRAMKO]

Unless your parents are politicians

[@JohnDoe-wd8rs]

Nah, her blatant denial of facts is exactly what democrats look for

[@Spike2276]

It is sad, really, to think that college education has failed this girl so hard. She's probably paying a pretty penny for her degree, and despite studying political sciences she can't make concrete claims that would corroborate her political views, or the enforcement of any policies she agrees or disagrees with. Just a pile of money thrown to a bonfire.

[@focusfrost9856]

Most pol sci BAs intend to get law degrees and many intend to use the law for activism. Good examples are Kamala & Maya Harris. Since the 60's, more & more pol sci professors each decade, and consequently their students, are Marxists, or if unable to accept violent revolution as necessary, they are socialists who intend to use the system to achieve the same goal non-violently. About half the politicians and middle to upper management federal & state bureaucrats running our country are lawyers. Hence they use lawfare, and attempting to overturn legislation and people's referendums via the courts, or break social groups, churches, small to medium sized businesses with repeated expensive lawsuits that never end, and now wanting to pack, subvert, or abolish the Supreme Court because right now it is more conservative (Constitutional) than liberal (Activist) in its decisions. If they can't use it to force social change on the country as they did with Roe v. Wade, they get mad, because their most extreme goals won't get passed by the democratic process of legislation by the people who are not yet indoctrinated enough.

[@MagnanimousmouseYouGoogle-d1k]

She debated in good faith and was able to concede many of her illogical positions and contradictory ideas. She was able to take this like a student vs a shrill ideologue.

[@starlightHT]

She decides what is good and bad, what is legal and illegal... All based on personal feelings...

[@robm6510]

Let's hope she's feeling good ...

[@starlightHT]

@@robm6510 True... The problem is that she has several traumas and a lot of drama in her baggage.

[@robm6510]

@@starlightHT she would say those traumas are in some way our fault ... So it would behoove us to make her happy so that that doesn't come back on us. I'm kidding of course.

[@starlightHT]

@@robm6510 For moments you scare me 😂

[@charetjc]

@@robm6510 I heard, once upon a time, some germans were feeling good while doing bad things... that's the rub with feelings I suppose.

[@andrewmava272]

Female arguing 101 (usually in this order too) 1. Strawman The argument 2. Challenge validity by demanding immediate off-the-top of your head stats from opponent. Then just discredit if your opponent is able to give you stats, by saying there’s an equal amount of counter stats, but don’t cite them. 3. Obfuscate: muddy the waters with sophistry, rabbit trails, etc… 4. Cite anecdotes as science 5. Tone police. Make your opponent reframe the truth in a nicer way which usually means not pointing out “mean” truths. 6. Refuse to accept nuance with your opponent, but attempt to hyper analyze nuance when making their arguments. 7. Play the victim. 8. Purposely misinterpret points as a means of misdirection and a way to “run out the clock”. 9. Appeal to authority. “my professors say X”. 10. Identity politics. “Well as a woman, you just don’t understand”. 11. Just outright deny reality and attempt to gaslight everyone around you. None of these are not done in the pursuit of truth. They’re tactics to win, reframe, gaslight. This is the playbook of those who’ve had the luxury to be this way their whole lives. They’ve never experienced accountability, challenges to their world view, and they’ve never been forced to articulate the positions they bought into based on propaganda and emotion. They all follow these steps and once you understand that it’s very easy to make them stay on point and wreck their arguments.

[@TheBnjmnlrd]

well pointed out.

[@paulallyngoff7472]

Yep

[@jdac22]

Spot on!!! In short, they love to use “S.I.G.N Language”. Shame, Insults, Guilt, and the Need to be right!

[@EricCubed956]

1. Strawman The argument. “When a baby pokes it’s head out it’s murder right? That’s what you’re about? The killing of children? 2. Challenge validity by demanding immediate off-the-top of your head stats from opponent. Is your argument that Andrew isn’t doing that? Are you such a fool as to not see that? 3. Obfuscate: muddy the waters with sophistry, rabbit trails, etc… Andrew does this with his black/white, fundamentalist thinking, which is based on archaic religious systems. 4. Cite anecdotes as science. One of Andrew’s favorite anecdotes is the belief that in his experience his relationship with God is the one and only relationship. 5. Tone police. Make your opponent reframe the truth in a nicer way which usually means not pointing out “mean” truths. The meanest truth is that perception is relative, that is, based on the many factors. Again, we see black/white thinking. So, there is nothing that could possibly be bad then? No, idiot, clubbing women’s feet, female genital mutilation and honor killings is wrong. Don’t agree? Oh! No problem, that’s just your opinion. 6. Refuse to accept nuance with your opponent, but attempt to hyper analyze nuance when making their arguments. How is this not Adrew’s greatest weapon? 7. Play the victim. Well, by rejecting god your hurting me. You’re hurting us. Therefore, I am justified in acting any way that I want towards you. Whose the victim then? 8. Purposely misinterpret points as a means of misdirection and a way to “run out the clock”. Case in point. 9. Appeal to authority. “my professors say X”. IS there any appeal greater than God? At least, Andrew’s entitled understanding of it. 10. Identity politics. “Well as a woman, you just don’t understand”. Or, as a faithless heathen, you just don’t understand. 11. Just outright deny reality and attempt to gaslight everyone around you. You are gaslighting yourself now.

[@idkwhtmynameis1993]

​@@jdac22r.i.p kevin😢

[@keithgrant6448]

Debate analysis: Mike Tyson in his prime fights a college age female feminist, destroys her, and she thinks she won 💀

[@AmauriFontes]

Armed women versus "unarmed" men = men loose

[@Joneewiththeroses]

@@AmauriFontes unarmed anyone dumbass against armed anyone will always lose regardless😂

[@sparrowsbewertungen6930]

​@@AmauriFontes not even that There are cases where a man disarmed a woman Yet the other way around , it happened less

[@fuzezo_7fawaz852]

@@AmauriFontes if it's all men and all women i see that chance to be infinitely marginal, i would argue that it can barely be even theoretical...you're massively underestimating men, because you're simply in fact coping

[@AmauriFontes]

@@fuzezo_7fawaz852 Armed grandmom VS "unarmed" Mike Tyson = Tyson loses

[@johnwoody4686]

The college professor should be jailed for teaching this BS

[@jaylabatt9837]

This is the second step to the collapse of a culture. Third step men no longer valuing culture and no longer protecting it. This movement won't last, it's history, which is repeated.

[@paulcarfantan6688]

Yes, the writing is on the wall. Usually, this sort of society ends up being taken over by a more logical, stronger country, militarily or the strong men in that society get so **cking pissed that they start a revolution and take it over or those same men are able to roll back the laws fifty or fifty-five years back without any bloodshed and sanity comes back.Time will tell.

[@robertotrabanino4224]

Wasmt there a really good book about many cultures and the few empires who emdured and so prsopered the most. Do you know uts name by any chance?

[@apprenticesennin6580]

"I'm very confident in my worldview" can't give any justifications for her worldview..

[@RAP7ORv]

says it all really. She will just continue in her contradictory worldview.

[@wandering_philosopher]

Her arguments consists of “I agree with you but I think….”😭😭😭

[@nofuxgivens2797]

You mean ...."but I feel" 😅

[@Antitotalitarianrevolutionary]

That's beggar she is not arguling for truth, she is arguing for feeling

[@isaacruiz3991]

@@nofuxgivens2797you beat me to that correction 😆

[@chrishayes5755]

Guys, sometimes its best to congratulate someone in defeat if they take it well. This woman is intelligent, kind and nicely mannered. She wasn't rude or aggressive. She seems open minded, rational and generally wasn't abrasive to listen to. She's still young. I get debates are bloodsports but this woman deserves respect.

[@Zenosable]

Yep it’s all about feelings for her not actual facts

[@Project_31]

So a person is a person when it’s being grown in a MACHINE, but a PERSON growing in a PERSON, is not a PERSON? WTF 😂

[@vespacheck]

The idea that birth control isnt reducing births is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

[@terrylandess6072]

The fact neither gender wants responsibility for an evolutionary activity which is near the top of our 'programming' becomes problematic in itself.

[@stevendouglas3781]

Birth control (and deletion as birth control) is the lynch pin of feminism. It cannot be criticized by a feminist herself or the worldview falls apart like a house of cards.

[@Kyle-2020]

​@@terrylandess6072Most men aren't even in the mating game like that.

[@awesomegamer4314]

She is a living billboard, for repealing the 19th amendment.

[@michaelanderson9914]

So true

[@gassygiants]

Couldn't say it better myself

[@hdcvo2570]

So true!!!!

[@jihadoglesby]

Facts

[@JohnBrown-cn9oh]

"Do you believe in objective truth?" "No, not necessarily" This is the problem

[@looweegee252]

She's admitting to being delusional

[@call4sorrow1]

@@looweegee252 every human brain is subjectively interpreting the world, the ego it must take to think that youve perfectly assessed the relaity youve find youself in,or have the capapbility to do so is why atheists dont pretend to have such godlike abilities.... objective truth is only useful if its non subjective for all people interpretating it, , as soon as it becomes subjective to error (every human being) it becomes subject to interpretation..... therefore it may never be interpreted correctly. and since there's no way to verify which human, if any actualy gets it right, its just a myth that theists try and use to guilt trip people who dont follow their religion into.

[@Toxicitymaxed]

That's when the debate should have ended.

[@anonymous7820]

Depends on what you mean by "objective truth." Is it an "objective truth" that slavery is wrong?

[@looweegee252]

@@anonymous7820 depends on what you mean by each of those terms.

[@insomniacgrinder2756]

Service Guarantees Citizenship......I believe Andrew is a fan of Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers. I Completely agree with that system of government!

[@kdub3288]

He is a damn mastermind at debate. He boils EVERY SINGLE ARGUMENT to its bones, to the most basic fundamentals, and literally backs up his opponents into corners that they can’t weasel their way out of without conceding.

[@kansashoneybadger7899]

He is good, but, he has the debate skills of an average, reasonably successful attorney.

[@Omar.313]

Yh good point, he is good but you dnt have to be good to win an easy debate.

[@westside1912]

Debates are easy when you have things like “reality” and the “truth” on your side.

[@kansashoneybadger7899]

@@westside1912 Yup. I agree. Female here BTW. The Civil Rights Acts of 1965 started a revolution which has thoroughly conquered society: academia, military, and business. What I want to see is all that female talent coming forward! Feminists said there were very few female engineers because .... patriarchy. Now every institution in the U.S. pushes feminism and does its best to push women into STEM. That push has been in force since the 60's. Where are the female engineers? (Still 5%) Where are the females filing innovative patients? I suggest looking a patent filings is the gold standard for females in STEM. Innovative patents are what push society forward. If women are not contributing in this activity-bona fide contribution to new science/technology. If the feminists were correct, there should have been an upsurge of young women devoted to STEM subjects.

[@seancombs8352]

Andrew Wilson teller of truths.

[@jorgep.1877]

She's young, intelligent and respectful. Only thing she needs is to let go of bad ideas. Sadly college today is the nest of bad ideas.

[@Christ-Is-King_]

I was her when I was that age. Now, as a decrepit 30 year old, I am a conservative, Apostolic Christian monarchist. 😂 I owe a lot of gratitude to another grisly asshole who had the balls to challenge my illogic (in a strip club of all places… he reminds me a lot of Andrew, come to think of it; both spend time tutoring strippers lol). Praise God for how He has redeemed me and given me new life in which I am blossoming and truly joyful and at peace.

[@neeeskeee]

The fact that she can't discern these simple arguments like "Women would still go out and mass protest" while Andrew repeatedly said "No rights for women". She doesn't seem to grasp onto these simple facts, like being able to go out and protest is a right in on itself. So no, i wouldn't call her intelligent, she's basic at best. In a reality check for her, she should hang out in group of men and get roasted for baseless arguemtns.

[@Mobius118]

She is young and respectful, yes. But I have yet to meet an intelligent feminist

[@saintsword23]

@@Mobius118 She's definitely intelligent. Having bad ideas doesn't necessarily indicate low intelligence (Isaac Newton was very interested in alchemy for example). If she couldn't understand the concepts we could question whether she was intelligent or not. Like, I think we have to really be nice here. She was really respectful and we REALLY need to celebrate this sort of measured and reasonable discussion since it's so rare. It's really important.

[@EricCubed956]

@@Mobius118 That is why Feminists are needed. Precisely because of this comment.

[@codygenova]

The fully baked cake isn’t a cake until I open the oven door

[@luxolontamo4440]

Hilariously good analogy

[@Urbancorax2]

one minute of baking left but it is still not a cake! Don't be silly)))) (Joke)

[@patrickday4206]

Easy as pie

[@RFMRecordings]

schrodinger's cake

[@Saynt1k]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@sypherd.3771]

Forget the double homicide question. The better way to refute her “personhood” argument is to call her out on the fact that she doesn’t actually believe that an unborn baby isn’t a person. Tell her to go sit with a woman going through fertility treatments who just had a miscarriage at 3, 4, 5, or 6 months. Sit with her, look her in the eyes, and tell her “your baby was not a person”. Many times throughout history when mass atrocities and genocide were committed against people, the first step was a full-fledged propaganda campaign to convince people that the victims weren’t really people so it’s ok.

[@zetta3official]

literally dehumanization of babies.

[@sypherd.3771]

@ exactly.

[@usaepfl1pfl982]

Her stance on late term abortion is insanely cruel. How could anybody with any common sense at all commit such a heinous act of murder on the most innocent. This would probably make Hitler cringe.

[@TheWayoftheSith]

Mustache man didn't advocate anything of the sort. Not even a similar thing.

[@edshanks2189]

​@@TheWayoftheSith what did he advocate for?

[@MrFuchew]

Psyop! women and beta men are extremely easy to influence

[@Just_a_Lad]

And this is coming from a "future mother" , God forbid.

[@Lex-lw9bb]

The fact that she doesn't think aborting a baby the day before it is born at 9 months isn't murder is insane to me. I was born at 6 months.

[@k04r]

One could play that game for a long period: "the day before it's born, the day before the day it's born, day befor the day before the day it's born" and so on for aprox. 270 times. So where's the line?

[@jamesrobinson2138]

Desensitized and dehumanized. They’re so far detached from reality and so selfish that it makes them actually delusional. Smh they get pretty privilege and nobody holds them to a higher standard. They run off spouting this stuff and everybody agrees or encourages them because they’re sheep. They don’t know why they believe something and have never actually thought about it. They’re programmed and regurgitate stances and points that they’ve never really researched to make their own decisions. Followers. This is why they say men are supposed to lead because women will believe anything they think sounds good on a general basis.

[@MergedElement]

Feminism prioritizes selfish desire over reality and facts.

[@isaacruiz3991]

I was born out of wedlock. I had asked my mom if she ever considered getting an abortion due to that fact, and she said no, without question (which I know to be true, given her authentic values). My dad was pro-choice at the time, but was more than happy to bring a son into this world. Since then, my dad has flipped on the abortion issue and authentically regrets ever having the pro-choice position (and we’ve talked thoroughly about it). Convenience is not an excuse to end an innocent human life, and I’ll debate anyone on this topic.

[@manrightchea]

Abortion is murder point blank period. So is morning after pills. All of it is designed to end life after creating it. Whoredom was never supposed to be a thing. Marriage was supposed to be a thing, a nuclear family. Abortion is used as birth control by whores.

[@Chadborn-j8p]

“Equalitarianism is trying to convince women they are equal to men while at the same time having them appeal to men for their equality. “ I think I wrote that verbatim. It’s powerful statement. This guy is dam good.

[@captain_orange]

"egalitarian"

[@opufy]

she argues about opression yet says a baby has no human rights!!!!!

[@ClemensBros_Art90]

57:52 it's absolutely incredible that she doesn't believe that BIRTH CONTROL is why the BIRTH RATE is down 😂 unbelievable. Almost the most absurd thing I've heard in my life.

[@Just_a_Lad]

She is a child, so she just doesn't want to admit to obvious, because the big bad wolf is going to win the argument and she can't accept that.

[@Spike2276]

That one was a hard pill to swallow. Especially when she brought up correlation not meaning causation... Like, come on, it's in the goddamn name!

[@boldwindroastery]

Andrew is surprisingly calm, and she seems surprisingly open minded. I like it.

[@blueone117]

He’s calm because he’s mirroring his opponent. He always has. He gives back what he receives and most of the time on these panels he gets ratchet women yelling and mocking him.

[@entretienarma9327]

Actually never noticed. This guy is a crazy good debator...hé should find reel opponents

[@blubirdhill2608]

​@@mitchlymerDestiny hates (more than anything) being beaten at his own game. Destiny often "debate bro's" his opponent to death, using their own logical inconsistency against them. Sadly for Destiny, Andrew is better than him at it, and Destiny knows this.

[@Just_a_Lad]

She seems inexperienced and indoctrinated.

[@zacharykeith4459]

Andrew Wilson is Brian's Pikachu

[@ashleighsheddick]

lol this made me laugh 🤣☺️

[@akimorita]

this comment is so funny 😅 at this point he is already Brian's Raichu, the evolution is complete, he is a total destroyer

[@ivanjelenic5627]

😂

[@defface777]

The plastics argument was hilarious!!!

[@jrew7010]

Women go to college to get more knowledge... Men go to Jupiter because they've already invented interplanetary space travel.

[@rafaelandrade8990]

Birth CONTROL is not the biggest factor in CONTROLLING birth?! WOW! And I thought I had seen it all.

[@stardu5t796]

The application of force argument is the killer of feminists' ideology.

[@terrylandess6072]

Hard pill to swallow.

[@GustavoSpiritual]

Andrew's debates are priceless. Thanks for making them.

[@deceiver444]

These one on one debates are way more constructive than when the table is crowded and hysteria lies rampant. That was a very interesting and informative conversation.

[@TheRealSpek]

100% agree! It's wonderful

[@editlife41]

This is not a debate it is a teaching moment for learning and a questionnaire.

[@fd15k]

Beautiful woman burning her life away studying how to feel unhappy about the world instead of say physics, math or engineering, or... focusing on the family.

[@pokiejackson3364]

Need to keep them the hell away from engineering. Tried that experiment already, and it failed horribly/predictably.

[@Peterbrendanalbert]

Beautiful woman who would kill a 9 month old.. You're as nuts as this despicable human.

[@MikeJohnMentzer]

She is honestly so many times better and more sane than a lot of dumb hateful feminists out there.

[@reeb9016]

What is perfect about how Andrew debates is he doesn't allow her to "move on" without answering his question. How many times did he say, "Wait, answer my question." or "We'll get to your question, but answer mine first." So often, lefties are successful at "moving on" without having answered a hard question so they learn nothing. Bravo Andrew!

[@paulcarfantan6688]

Very true.

[@adamkane7513]

Leftist? This is how all wahmin argue.

[@keelsmac01]

What’s even more perfect is the way he traps them. He’s asks questions in different ways, lets them answer and then when asked another way they give the opposite answer. It’s shows the falicy of their arguments.

[@dirkdiggler540]

Good job Andrew on dismantling her mental gymnastics. It's crazy how she agrees to soooooo much you say yet her ideological indoctrination has her still regurgitate the feminist talking points.

[@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii2458]

TBH, this was more like Andrew lecturing that college feminist than a debate.

[@1flash3571]

It certainly was a waste of Andrew's time, for sure.

[@andyatty9412]

What do you expect from a college brat?

[@evangellydonut]

@@1flash3571 if it "only" took 2.5 hours to turn her away from feminism, it's not entirely wasted. if you watch the previous episode she was on, there was another more vocal girl who was hopeless, which really would've been a waste of his time.

[@mem5860]

​@@evangellydonutatvthe end she say she was wrong?

[@Melting_because_of_beauty]

Idk if Andrew was soft because she was pretty or because she come to the table while being calm

[@JimboWas-here]

I think this has been a great exercise in the use of a Socratic thought experiment. They each asked great questions and continued to do so. They argued thoughts, agreed on definitions and sought clarification. Very exciting to watch and listen. Excellent on both parties!

[@robertlorenzen8028]

Any woman that would abort a baby that could survive without her, is a monster!

[@associatealpha1166]

majority of them are monsters nowadays. over 1 million per year are cancelled each&every year

[@welewele7284]

agree! anyway, she is a who-mean

[@Cleffa168]

Her optimism at the end is exactly why a lot of men are giving up and just let reality happen to women.

[@RAP7ORv]

Yep, its just straight cope honestly. Wars happening, the likelihood of WW3 is more close than ever, birth rates decreasing at alarming rates, ecomomy in the gutter, global bodies like the WEF straight up saying they want people to own nothing & eat ze bugs... yeah everything is gunna be fine guys lmao.

[@joshuadalton6063]

IDK exactly what you mean, but yeah. In her world everyone is nice and normal because men are using force to keep it that way. But that is fast changing, because yeah a lot of men are giving up, and we're fast approaching reality happening in a big way.

[@magx01]

Ya, no. That's not why. It's lack of options.

[@Cleffa168]

@@joshuadalton6063 Yep. In the end she insist that she is very confident with her worldview. They can't be convinced and so the only way is to let reality hit them. By "giving up" I don't mean in a dating sense, but giving up in convincing them and giving up in general and just let them head to their own demise.

[@SmoochiesASMRplus]

Please, men, not ALL women are like this! There are still some of us out there that love, cherish, and NEED you! Men make this society the safe place that these other women are so privileged to be able to spew this madness. Without you, all the world would crumble, and there are still many, many of us who appreciate you for every single little thing you do ❤

[@alhaquin]

This girl has nothing of value to add here except to be passively argumentative

[@gomeettupoc50cent]

Actually she does, she provides Andrew a chance to show what logic vs women look like 😂

[@elouisejames1830]

More of these one on ones. Very entertaining and nice not having 5 other feminists interrupting. Keeps the convo going and lets Andrew hold them accountable

[@kellisilva1073]

I love watching how the truth always kills the lies.

[@Back2Basics_PlusAI]

Its not exactly the truth Kelli. It's Andrew's well researched opinion. It would have to survive quite a few strong challenges (which this lady couldn't mount) to begin to qualify - similar to how scientific theories must survive challenges to falsification to be considered "probably true." I can't grade Andrew when his examiners are so weak. Though I like his logic on feminism, it was a view I didn't even consider, and I'm glad I have heard it.

[@terrylandess6072]

This is a fact. Whether or not any truth was shown here is besides the fact of your statement which remains true. Now we're at the point of trying to expose lies by picking up every rock that casts shadows where these lies hide. Exhausting work to those trying to find reason and make use of it.

[@TerryBartsoff]

​@@Back2Basics_PlusAIshut up 🤡 Andrew is speaking facts your emotions don't change that

[@natediaz1863]

Its crazy that she really sat there with a smile on her face and cheer in her personality and said theres nothing wrong with 🔪 a 9 month old in the womb. Thats creepy and irredeemable.

[@TEMPESTsonofThunder]

Nobody and nothing is “irredeemable” for Jesus Christ…

[@natediaz1863]

​@@TEMPESTsonofThunder I'm not religious. It's irredeemable. So keep the Jesus crap.

[@yogeshlimbu2345]

@@TEMPESTsonofThunder will you trust a ex pedophile to be left alone with your kid if he says he is reformed and attends church now?

[@TEMPESTsonofThunder]

@@natediaz1863 I’m not religious either. Neither am I a materialist or atheist or anti-theist or whatever you identify as. It is *definitely* redeemable. So keep the anti-Jesus crap.

[@franzosisch5965]

It was nervous laughter and smiles. She nearly saw how bad her views were but the brainwashing jumped back in to stop her. It was actually saddening listening to her.

[@Air7Rhythms]

This is so much easier to listen to than the other episodes

[@derocan4lif]

This feels like a father talking to his daughter

[@EricCubed956]

Which is profoundly disturbing. That's what we want to back to? A cop in the sky?

[@Spike2276]

​@@EricCubed956 Collective morality. The argument to any religious ethic coming from a sucessful religion would be the collective. "We can all agree that what's written on this book is moral", while secularism must instead have some other set of morals, which always vary because they are not codified, and therefore must always be relative to the morality of others. I'm not religious, but it's *VERY* hard to argue against moral beliefs that have stood for thousands of years and with billions of followers. The best you can do is point to the fact that other sucessful religions with different morals exist.

[@IBenZik]

This woman is the exact reason the Founding Fathers said women could not vote.

They also added responsibility to being able to vote... that stopped a lot from wanting to.

[@begshallots]

Her inability to counter him has nothing to do with her sex.

[@krixpop]

... "Technically, the original text of the Constitution does NOT say anything one way or another about whether women can vote, nor whether they can be -or not be- president (besides the use of the pronoun "he"in the 1st paragraph ). In fact it says nothing at all about who can vote. That was up to states to decide, and some states and/or territories did enact women's suffrage well before the Nineteenth Amendment (most famously Wyoming from 1869 on)" Article 2 section 1 (4th paragraph ?) "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." The use of "person" instead of "man" is still a mystery of sorts ... - What the Founding Fathers didn't take into account was/is the present Atheist Idiocy and the Femi-nazism we have today ... - Further: "Originally women did have the right to vote. That right was taken away by the various state legislatures early in the US history. It was restored over time by numerous means, but not fully authorized until 1920. Women were allowed to vote in school board, local, and some state elections much earlier than that. 1777: Women lose the right to vote in the state of New York. 1780: Women lose the right to vote in Massachusetts. 1784: Women lose the right to vote in New Hampshire. 1787: The Constitutional Convention places voting qualifications in the hands of the states. Women in all states except New Jersey lose the right to vote. 1790: New Jersey grants the vote to "all free inhabitants," including women. 1807: Women lose the right to vote in New Jersey, the last state to revoke the right. 1838: Kentucky passes the first statewide woman suffrage law allowing female heads of household in rural areas to vote in elections deciding on taxes and local boards for the new county "common school" system. 1867: Kansas holds a state referendum on whether to enfranchise women and/or black males. Lucy Stone, Susan B. Anthony, and Elizabeth Cady Stanton traverse the state speaking in favor of women's suffrage. Both women's and black male suffrage is voted down. 1869: The territory of Wyoming is the first to grant unrestricted suffrage to women. 1870: The Utah Territory grants suffrage to women. 1872: A suffrage proposal before the Dakota Territory legislature loses by one vote. 1875: Supreme Court rules that the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution does not grant women the right to vote. 1875: Women in Michigan and Minnesota win the right to vote in school elections. 1880: New York state grants school suffrage to women. 1883: Women in the Washington territory are granted full voting rights. 1884: The U.S. House of Representatives debates women's suffrage. 1887: The Edmunds-Tucker Act takes the vote away from women in Utah in order to suppress the Mormon vote in the Utah territory. 1887: The Supreme Court strikes down the law that enfranchised women in the Washington territory. 1887: In Kansas, women win the right to vote in municipal elections. 1888-1889: Wyoming had already granted women voting and suffrage since 1869-70; 1893: Colorado men vote for women's suffrage. 1896: Women's suffrage returns to Utah upon gaining statehood. 1896: Idaho grants women suffrage. 1910: Washington grants women the right to vote. 1911: California grants women suffrage. 1912: Arizona grants women suffrage. 1912: Kansas grants women suffrage. 1912: Alaska's territorial legislature grants women suffrage. 1913: The Alaskan Territory grants women suffrage. 1913: Illinois grants municipal and presidential but not state suffrage to women. 1914: Nevada grants women suffrage. 1914: Montana grants women suffrage. 1916: Montana elects Republican Jeannette Rankin to the House of Representatives. She is the first woman elected to the U.S. Congress. 1917: Arkansas grants women the right to vote in primary, but not general elections. 1917: Rhode Island grants women presidential suffrage. 1917: The New York state constitution grants women suffrage. New York is the first Eastern state to fully enfranchise women. 1917: The Oklahoma state constitution grants women suffrage. 1917: The South Dakota state constitution grants women suffrage. 1919: Michigan grants women full suffrage. 1919: Oklahoma grants women full suffrage. 1919: South Dakota grants women full suffrage. 1920: The Nineteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is ratified. Women officially have the right to vote in all US elections at this time. 1924: US government grants citizenship to Native Americans through the Indian Citizenship Act. However, are effectively barred from voting by many states until 1948. Some Native Americans could vote long before this because the Native Americans are enumerated in the Constitution in two categories. Indians not taxed were counted as 3/5, the same as persons held under bondage (nowhere does it use word slaves or any of the multiple terms for Blacks) and could not vote. Indians that were “taxed” were considered full citizens and could vote. 1943: Chinese immigrants, including women, receive the right to vote by the Magnuson Act. 1952: The race restrictions of the 1790 Naturalization Law are repealed by the McCarran-Walter Act, giving first generation Japanese Americans, including women, citizenship and voting rights."

[@beanybabyrabie]

@@begshallotslet’s not pretend women’s and men’s brains don’t work very differently. There’s a reason the majority of the greatest minds of our time are M/ALES……

[@zera2314]

@@begshallots and that's where you're wrong. It 100% does.

[@LFBiSyn]

Andrew ceremonially wearing all black because this is a funeral

[@snotice12]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@Dick-Jagger]

good one😂😂

[@mimicoolwhip5991]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@C_E_0]

Very fitting since whenever Andrew is in the debate, someone is absolutely getting buried

[@elouisejames1830]

😂😂😂

[@colinsmith3093]

Most of the comments section and those on the show were overly critical. She did a great job, and was reasonable and intelligent, albeit a bit misguided...but hell, I was way more misguided than that at her age.

[@hotguyinhouston713]

OK in the end after watching this debate, let’s just call it what it is. “Abortion is murder, they know it and they were OK with it.” The only voice not heard in this debate is the voice of the unborn baby. How very convenient.

[@andythompson2009]

They treat it like a frikkin hobby.

[@EverSinceMyExorcism]

Bill Maher said it himself. He knows it's murder and he's ok with it.

[@MilloCriollo]

Under an egalitarian ethics, if women can choose or reject maternity, men should have the same right to choose or reject paternity. If a woman has the right to abort a man’s child, a man has the right to refuse child support payments.

[@Boost-Samurai]

Better yet, if a woman aborts the man's child against his wishes, she should have to pay "child support" for 18 years. Same as if she were to keep his child against his wishes, he would be required to pay "child support" for 18 years. It would be interesting to see what would happen to abortion numbers if this were the case.

[@archielogo4463]

Too bad women can only carry children... abortion should never be an option... I believe in equality a woman ALONE should never decide a baby's fate...if abortion is an option the biological father should 2nd it...but men should never have the right to destroy a pregnancy and women should never have the right to demand finical help from unwilling fathers... disgusting double standards from so called equlotrian narcissistic idiots..we are not equal but in the WEST women are treated beyond fair...equal doesn't always equal fair !

[@cd1857]

I have to say this video is one of the most interesting and entertaining things I've heard/seen on any medium in months, if not years. Feminism, Racism, Abortion...a Master Class in logic, ethics, values in just 2.5 hours. This should be packaged and released theatrically...imo. Kudos and much respect to both participants

[@hsizzle4502]

i would say based on actual factual data she was wrong about everything she said . every single thing .she actually made this debate really hard to watch. she is one of the dumbest people i think ive ever heard speak. and no she made the video insufferable and people like you that give women a pass like this are the reason why we have young women like this who believe in things that make no sense factually or logically. she really is stupid. not my opinion but based on everything single word she said and her beliefs this woman is evil and i think she shouldnt ever be able to debate anyone again she is a disgrace to good women everywhere..

[@kickballjedi]

I think she really has good arguments; she is just not very good at articulating her stance. I would say the Court of Law would support women if men attempted to squash their rights. Even when force is used to make a political statement, Law can counter the force and make men stop. Wilson is using the "All is fair in War" approach to force but even in war, individuals can be accused of breaking laws. These laws would be enforced by men who continue to believe in the Rule of Law of the Land against any men who would use force to end womens' (or anybody's) rights. Race crimes in the South were a good example. Men (on local and political levels) used force to harm and kill black people thinking their Law was best, using force to overcome the Laws of the Land. But other men who still obeyed the Law found these men and brought them to Justice (Justice based on Laws created by the government or based on religious beliefs), however you want to frame it. Not all men would use Force to limit womens' right because it would be morally wrong.

[@shannonstewart7952]

Because feminism leads to chaos, she still thinks it should exist. She is morally bankrupt.

[@benayers8622]

zero Braincells, its been brainwashed out of her very effectively by the state. Preparing for the future to come where all unquestioningly obey.. Seen demolition man or v for vendetta? This how it happens we witnessing it live.. Just be thankful you have arms cos here in uk its pretty much done for already got fees and tolls to travel our own streets so the poor are being imprisoned by pricing them into immobilisation

[@PAULDOUGLAS08]

Absolutely.

[@adriana12995]

Andrew: “So when you say that life starts at birth, you just made that up?” Her: “Honestly, yeah, a lot of things in law are made up” The stream could’ve ended right then and there. She has no logic and Andrew brutally showed her how her views have zero basis on absolutely anything. Basically, her whole arguments were “because that’s how I think it should be”. This is the peak of college graduates? 😂 She failed to show why anyone should listen to her views, after all, she accepted they are arbitrary 🤦‍♀️ More proof of why women should have never been given power of any kind. Give power to women and this is what you get: acceptance of chaos and irrationality.

[@Byorin]

Tbf, im not sure we could come up with an ideology or even a framework for a worldview that is NOT ultimately made up. In other words, a brute fact could be based on physics or maths such as a simple 2+2=4. Morality, as an example for a framework on rights in topics like abortion, would not be a brute fact or at least we’ve yet to see anyone demonstrate that it is a brute fact.

[@adriana12995]

@@Byorin You’re making a great case for why Christianity should be the moral framework of the world.

[@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii2458]

@@Byorin@Byorin If we are just talking about the numbers, you should be against feminism/single motherhood because the number indicates that most criminals come from single-mother households.

[@adriana12995]

@@Byorin thing is that there’s plenty of evidence that shows why we should have certain morals. The issue is that people ignore the evidence when it is laid out as it makes them uncomfortable. We know, for instance, that the traditional nuclear family creates the best people and yet we still have many people in denial of the facts. Facts are not enough to convince these people, or more specifically, facts are not enough to overrule the feelings of discomfort that women get when presented with truth. That’s why no thriving society was ever matriarchal or gave women power over men. Facts are good but they won’t convince most emotional women because we were not equipped for it. It’s why Andrew makes a brilliant case for why women shouldn’t vote. Women should simply not have a say and that’s why men should be the only leaders as it used to be throughout all of history until 50+ years ago.

[@my7th101]

The rules in religion are arbitrary as well

[@BigHueJanus]

She is so privileged she doesn’t understand the concept of not having rights. It is the extreme rare case in human history, where the society has the rights and the government yields to the society.

[@adrianvilla9845]

One of the best debates with no yelling at each other

[@kevinsiegel4436]

This lady is so ideologically bound she can’t even concede to an abortion ban at viability

[@blakehansen5434]

Ideology be crazy yo

[@viewzfromthesestreets7123]

Because they don't want to take responsibility for their actions. When have you seen any of them tale accountability? Never. They always blame everything on someone else because they've been indoctrínated to do so by culture, web and MSM. But then they come after people for being religious? When they're doing the exact samething but instead of worshippíng God they're worshípping themselves. The bíble even states this would be happening in the last day.

[@EricCubed956]

Amazing it is how delusional you are. It was clearly Andrew who indulged in extremes to make his point that abortion was murder.

[@Remedysworld]

Ive never seen a feminist win a debate

[@piterbzymas6462]

Win a debate? Are you taking crazy pills 😂? To win a single argument would be great progress.

[@TokupuChophi-b6u]

Sometimes they do but only with help of a Man😂

[@wanda520]

That’s because the feminist isn’t smart enough

[@HenkdeVries-h6g]

If that's true, how do you explain my feelings ?

[@zzzzzdagod8973]

cuz it’s not real lmfao

[@mikejohnzon]

This format of the show is much better than listening to 4 women yammering over each other and jumping from topic to topic.

[@draknor7730]

The good thing aboit this debate is that she learns through it and recognizes some of the ideas as presented. The rest later on, I believe.

[@keithfreeman2585]

You think she’ll learn?