These Torvald NERFS mean NOTHING! (here's why)

[@direreign8977]

That Makoa was like, "I'm gonna hook this Zhin watch" and Zhin just went "Hold my beer"

[@zhen3356]

hehe

[@hopeblossoms5931]

Last time I played Torvald, he was considered the worst Frontline ☠️

[@a.k.axurai5678]

Well that was untrue. Terminus was still worse during that time and Terminus is still the worst next to Raum.

[@taco_sensei]

​@@a.k.axurai5678I think they mean Torvalds first iteration... Like way before Term was in game 💀 that means they haven't played Torv in a veeeery long time 😂

[@elmercy4968]

@@taco_sensei He was a strong point tank though. Not the worst Frontline. Especially due to his shield sucking ability.

[@juanLya]

Last Game played in the 60s

[@rell660]

Torvalds wasn't broken. People were just dumb not getting wrecker.

[@a.k.axurai5678]

🧢 he was broken.

[@issacthekid]

Yeah I was sitting here wondering why and when has Torvald needed a nerf od any kind?

[@a.k.axurai5678]

You clearly weren't there when Torvald was basically A or S tier. he wouldn't die even if your team all got wrecker like. 💀💀

[@grimreaper5264]

No, he is broken. As a Torvald player, he is definitely broken. If you have Haven 3 and Veteran 3, you cannot be killed.

[@landxxx1]

​@@grimreaper5264 never had problem with torvLd like never

[@happyhoppip9159]

That dude had a lot of negative stuff to say about Torv for someone who also admitted they don't even play off tank... GG Andrew - thanks for proving the haters wrong about good ol gpa! lol

[@oddzzyy5649]

that mokoa was getting bullied

[@arifazraei2093]

only lex had wrecker wow

[@harryvpn1462]

They've nerfed 3 tanks in the span of a month, we tank players haven't been eating good

[@tonybreeden863]

I recently started playing Torv and I've been dominating games

[@harryvpn1462]

Wait wheres the patch notes?

[@eslvertrag6426]

Just a general question. Why does linking my steam account to hi-rez not work? Theres always this red message. "Something went wrong, try again later". I want my prime loot

[@stealurcookies]

I can't even queue for ranked, almost this entire season lol

[@juanLya]

Send a supp ticket

[@elmercy4968]

I rarely see Torv getting bannend. Banned are strong point tanks like Inara or Nyx. I think Torv is in a good spot. He is an off-tank/support hybrid so the question if he is a good off-tank kinda misses the point. Of course Khan is better in off-tanking but Khan has no bubble and no nullify.

[@stopsliding8355]

Instead of cutting the roots they cut the tree torvald is not the issue the flank mains are

[@empiyrr2133]

How are the flank mains the issue

[@Slippityslide]

@@empiyrr2133complaining bc they don’t know how to play against torvald or go and group with a team

[@a.k.axurai5678]

Flanks aren't supposed to follow the team. 💀 they just do their own thing and make their completely own decision on who to follow or who to fight and when to engage in a fight. Also clearly you haven't listened to the video. Torvald is still a good off tank. You literally always buy wrecker against him ALWAYS and resilience as well but mostly wrecker. If they have an aggressive comp or dive comp you're screwed against a Torvald. Wrecker wouldn't even matter because you're getting targeted by multiple people and can't simply focus on Torvald when he's not even a squishy plus his dps against squishies is decent. he does not need nulify to kill you. he can just put his recharge to shield up and has movement speed card to run away or chase you down. 💀💀

[@laxattack4620]

Don't situations like Torvald, Inara and Nyx being complete powerhouses in the sense of dominating matchups and forcing specific item selections mean there should be a focus on balance in each champion's base kits (weapons/abilities/cards) so that matchups are based on player skill versus running meta champions/loadouts since they work too well?

[@SomeRandomDude821]

Buying wrecker/bulldozer isn't new, and abilities are balanced with the expectation that players will buy the counter-items to a champion. Player skill isn't eliminated by playing the meta.

[@laxattack4620]

@@SomeRandomDude821 But player skill is reduced/negated by how effective the meta is when being played as or played against. Edit: Here's an example: It's pre-patch Diamond+ Ranked and both teams pick one point tank. One team is running Inara and the other team Fernando. The other champions selected are varied and don't make an impact on the match sway, only the two Frontlines do. Who wins?

[@elmercy4968]

@@laxattack4620 Inara probably because she got better damage than Nando. On the other end, the team against Nando has to buy wrecker. Very hard to say.

[@laxattack4620]

@@elmercy4968 Compared to buying resilience and bulldozer against pre-nerf Inara, buying wrecker against Aegis Fernando isn't nearly as bad.

[@elmercy4968]

@@laxattack4620 You didn't say you mean pre-nerf Inar and resil is anyway must buy in most matches since CC got much more common.

[@Makkushimu]

I feel like it's a bit arbitrary what he actually nullifies. Is there any handy table I could refer to?

[@grimreaper5264]

Nullify makes you not able to heal, use your getaway ability or use a different attack. Whatever attack you are using during it, that is the only thing you can use.

[@marcos2492]

I thought it cancelled everything but your main weapon

[@AndrewChicken]

It's not arbitrary, it's quite easy to understand actually. He nullifies everything that's not your primary attack. So, your left click/right trigger will work, but everything else won't.

[@rightasreine]

these comments are unbearable & pretend they know what theyre talking ab under a video thats clearly educated

[@paulieodrumgod]

Torvald is due for a skin imo

[@berguy3323]

More Torvald video please

[@no.notfromRDR]

I'm getting tired of tanks getting nerfed just because they're good at what they do.

[@La_Win69]

God forbid when enemy team has torv, zhin and jenos/corvus/lillith

[@ibrahim9037]

try again vs team that buying wrecker

[@thefantabulousjackson4353]

first

[@InternetOpinion]

Yo wtf i havent played for 2 years and torvald is good and now theres jenos better aggro brother💀💀💀