Double Stick Tape Broke my Brain

[@withJordanFrank]

11:30 - classic father/son line, no matter what the situation. Love this

[@rmacster]

You and that beautiful young man make a great team. I love seeing you together. I hope for similar situations with my grandsons and I. Those are the memories that never fade.

[@greglevandoski2983]

What a cool kid. And you’re the right dad for him for sure.

[@---l---]

His comedic timing is pretty good

[@HondoTrailside]

A bit rude. Usually a mistake to see that as comic, it doesn't usually turn out well.

[@wYatt121509]

@ 7:20 'Pretty hard dad'. Great father/son moment. love it, thanks for sharing.

[@joshua43214]

When you cut the tape you are sealing the cover to the tape, which is why it is so hard to remove. It is easy to get a corner started before you lay it down. Just fold a corner completely over so it sticks to itself, and the cover will pop up on its own or with a tiny bit of help. Trim the folded part off when you feel like it.

[@irkedoff]

Very cool that you include your son. I love his enthusiasm.

[@Coconut7403]

Why don't you add another spool that that collects the blue backing so that you only get the tape. This would mean you would only have to remove the backing once and it will continuously pull away the backing into the spool you added. Similar to what dymo label makers do with the ink. Or those white out pens with a tape

[@Superabound2]

Like Dwight's rig that separated 2-ply toilet paper into two separate rolls of 1-ply

[@Z-Ack]

Lol. Yea i hate when you accidentally use just the one ply on a roll then the entire rest of the roll separates when you pull it..

[@ScottHebertArt]

"you wasted your wood, haha" 🤣🤣

[@hartshut]

PSA. Pressure sensitive adhesive. Burnish the tape, especially the end or corner of the tape where you will be lifting the backing. You will have no problem lifting the backing without lifting the tape.

[@bookingboy]

That's what I do, as well. I have no problem with double stick tape. Also, as others have mentioned, tearing the tape may leave a little overhang to grab.😊

[@Rob-Hannon]

Keep having your son in your videos. Warms the heart to see experiences passed on to younger generations.

[@bobclarke5913]

With tape I want the edges to be as clean and strong as possible so I go to the middle. Using a blade, needle, whatever's handy, I puncture the backing and tear the hole to the edge, then peel it off. Unlike the edge, the middle will stay stuck down so you won't peel the tape up unless you dig in.

[@EldeNova]

I might've missed you talking about it, but there is tape that the backing peel layer overhangs the adhesive layer - its called "finger lift tape". Check it out. Used a lot in packaging for resealable mailers.

[@cafecybernz]

OMG! I've been dreaming of this for ages. Just found the following video: "How to apply finger lift tape | Environment friendly packing" by Enping Sanli Adhesive, on KZbin. I am going to order a full container of that stuff. --- EDIT: just realized I sounded like a promo bot 🤣

[@cafecybernz]

Also known as 'Dry Edge Tape' or 'Extended Liner Tape', apparently.

[@robertberger8642]

I love how you interact with your son!

[@TheLukemcdaniel]

The good part of losing your mind, it means you had one to begin with.

[@mattrinne]

You never know how tall you are until you're in over your head.

[@rogerspencer2292]

A trick that I’ve recently seen on YT is to not cut the backing when sticking to the workpiece. Obviously, the backing has to be lifted for the first application but once that is done (and it can be easier before laying it down) then just cut through the sticky bit and keep the backing ‘running’.

[@alans1816]

It's the "inspire woodcraft" KZbin channel. He showed it years ago, and I've been using double sided tape that way ever since. It is very simple and works well. He put up a short recently showing the process again. I think the older video also mentioned a lot of different types of tape, and which he preferred.

[@alans1816]

He showed it at least 5 years ago, and various times after that in response to others that seemed unaware. Four years ago Katz-Moses posted a video praising double-sided tape, but without the method, so Inspire Woodcraft repeated his advice in response.

[@katzmosestools]

CA Blue tape trick sucks

[@archstanton1863]

only if your void of skill

[@jeremyw5231]

Fully agreed - Can work if I really need more grip force but more of a pain to setup + always a chance of messing up. Double sided tape or vacuum clamping for me!

[@gregmize01]

@@archstanton1863 bro just told katz that he's devoid of skill 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@scottcountryman6090]

You also suck @katzmoses

[@mattrinne]

​@@archstanton1863what about my void of skill? If my void of skill what?!?

[@glov433]

I've always used double sided carpet tape and never had any issue. Thick enough to peel the backer with a razor real easy, never leaves residue, and because it's woven it removes in one piece.

[@zanderchiasson8064]

CA and blue tape seriously works phenomenally even holds well enough for light machining if you’re careful

[@orsummerton]

At work when cutting out wood and plastic sheets in our cnc we use double sided tape to fix the material to the sacrificial MDF underneath which is a pain! But we use the edge of a small steel ruler to pick the tape backing off which works fairly well.

[@mayhem661616]

So now you have a contact in the double sided tape industry, ask them to make a Klein version. Make the blue backing tape a quarter inch wider than the tape and fold it back so you have somewhere to peel from.

[@linesanraman7974]

That's brilliant!

[@gmanyyavailable]

It's not how it's manufactured, unfortunately. They make a very wide roll of tape and then slice it in rolls of different widths, so no interruptions in the tape possible. Although they might be able to do it on the two sides of a big roll and brand only those differently. Hmmm!

[@gentleimpact3580]

Your son is a talent! 😂 funny and honest. Good job on the video and the kid

[@poppagswoodshop3847]

Easy way to remove the tape is to use another piece of tape and by pressing it down on the tape you want to remove and pull up. When applying aluminum tape you use the same method by always leaving the backing in place.

[@JB-fh1bb]

I have two additions: 1. A teflon knife for removing the double stick tape. I've never had the tools and access needed to build one but there is a high-view video of one and the point is it glides under the adhesive without cutting the wood 2. For things like the gopro switch to "nano tape". That's the original name for the material that got rebranded as " Alien tape". There are variations between brands (I find alien tape rips very easily as you pull it off which is a no-go for me for temporary applications) but for the most part it's way stickier than other tape and can be removed cleanly by pulling it perpendicular to the surface

[@jacobdean1454]

That’s one cute kid. Great video dude. Still loving my vice btw

[@Gabe_Herdz]

We use tons of that double sided tape (we just call it "carpet tape"). The easiest way to peel of the blue protector is NEVER cut off what you need with a blade, simply tear it off with your hands; that way the blue part is semi-stretched and you can pull it away. If you cut it with a blade, just scratch on a corner of the the blue part with a blade or even finger nail to have something to pull. Hope that helps.

[@sparklekpadeh3382]

I'm a package handler, and as such I have to deal with A LOT of tape. I don't know who told me this overly simple rule, but when they did, it all just clicked. The rule is that tape doesn't stick to anything, but itself... after that I started using more tape to close packages, and just like when you fold over the end of clear packaging tape so you know where it starts an stops, with double sided tape do the same. Even if it's just a small corner. Then that plastic backing will lift itself up an can be peeled off easier. Also if you find that the backing for the double sided tape doesn't lift off itself then you may have to stick the end of the tape to something (don't cut it off from the roll) an peel backing from the end. That way you have that prepeeled tab already on the roll every time you need to use your tape. Fighting with it just 1 time instead of every time you use the roll.

[@christianiverson3346]

We witnessed one of those moments when a son realizes his dad is really cool

[@jimurrata6785]

Have you ever used 3M's ATG (adhesive tape gun) product line? Sometimes it's fun to fart around reinventing the wheel with birch ply and thread inserts, but then you look and see the gorilla of the adhesive industry has been producing one for 50+ years.

[@jimrosson6702]

Great video the ending was the best. Thanks for sharing

[@jimmer411]

We use doubleback a ton at work, thousands of feet at a time. Make your tape longer than it need and stick most of it down, flip it back so the sticky side is up and cut it with a razor blade, only cut the tape, not the backing. With a finger on the part you want to stick you then grab the piece you cut and peel it off. This will leave you with a leader, then you can easily peel the backer off without lifting the tape. You waste about 1/2 inch of tape but its much easier.

[@DaddyBooneDon]

Scrapbookers have a double stick tape applicator that automatically peels off the backing while they roll down the tape. I think a bigger version of that applicator might work well for woodworkers...

[@supergimp2000]

stop using a knife. you just make it harder on yourself. I use xfasten or spec tape and a quick tear will tear the backing and the tape along slightly different paths and the backing is simple to remove.

[@bashkillszombies]

I was trying to work out wtf he was using a knife for too.

[@reforzar]

Lincoln is hilarious. It felt like you were setting him up for a prank or something 😂

[@Mebeknob]

Dude, what about working with a tape manufacturer to develop a roll of double sided tape with a tab off to the side every inch to function like your tabs?

[@BlackstarStudio787]

can confirm, CA glue and blue tape works great. hold while you make cuts, breaks apart easily with a bump along the glued plane. the tape keeps the CA glue off your wood (if you're not sloppy) and peels of easy.

[@BlackstarStudio787]

perfect for putting on templates. you might prefer double sided tape, but in a pinch this will work

[@justinkrutz4157]

Flush cut snips like the Hakko-CHP-170 are by far the best tool I've found for pealing backings. They get under the backing like a knife but without scratching or digging into the surface, and they grip much better than tweezers

[@09conrado]

I love how Lincoln is willing to help you out

[@cblack1863]

Just take a small cutting of the same tape and press it down on the backing. It sticks enough to pick it up enough to peel it the rest of the way. Essentially use the tape to lift the tape.

[@cucciafr68]

I use a different brand of double sided tape, but I just rip it off the roll. This leaves little tabs to grab. If I needed a more precise sized piece and have to cut it, I just use a knife to separate the two. It just takes way longer.

[@quietwoodworking]

I figured out Jonathon's method on my own a few years ago after experiencing the same frustration. Nice to know he does it the same way.

[@BlackstarStudio787]

also, lil mans almost dropped an F bomb when you pulled out the air nozzle lmao

[@jmelchiori85]

I usually just use a different piece of tape on the corner to grab the backing and lift it off. I've also found if you don't cut straight across and leave maybe a mm that you have to tear the backing usually separates there.

[@a9ball1]

I just love it when we bring the kids in to supervise.

[@PRBB25]

Hmmmm , you could also cut a small tab of the blue backer off the roll and place it on the underside before sticking it down. Heck cut two small tabs prior and that way you’ll have one for the top and bottom.

[@hughayers2304]

For the removal of the sticky tape after use, use a (old, not your GOOD ones) chisel to get the tape started.

[@mattrinne]

Your kid made me smile several times in this video. Tell him thanks for me! 😁

[@kevinthomson6324]

Learned that trick from inspire woodcraft. But switched to paper backed double sided tape so you don’t even need the knife. It’s a total game changer

[@ex-nerd]

Others have already mentioned this, but I'll chime in to help the algorithm. It's pretty easy to pull up the tape by just using another piece of tape to pull it up. It sticks much better to itself than to the wood.

[@AndrewKleinWW]

Appreciate the comment and others have said that, so it must work for some tape, but not this blue stuff

[@ex-nerd]

@@AndrewKleinWW Interesting. That stuff you use seems to be in a class of its own. I use it on blue painter's tape (after the CA glue trick … the rubberized stuff gums up my CNC), various kinds of duct/gaffer's tape, xFasten, and various brands of carpet tape.

[@DavidParker]

The JKM technique is very smart! You could definitely also just lift the edge you’re cutting if you don’t want to cut into a GoPro or whatever you’re attaching the tape to. I use a lot of double stick tape on guitar templates, granted I use a different brand of tape, but for ease of removing the backing I like to cut my tape at an angle and then use my fingernail and push outwards towards the corner of the tape which slightly deforms the tape and lifts the backer slightly and then I can lift up from that corner really easy 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@roycedorsett5528]

Hey, I usually take some regular Scotch tape, wrap it backwards across my fingers so it's sticky side is out and touch the corner several times till it comes up. I just pick a corner and start tapping it. If that corner doesn't come up then I just go to another one, one always pops up by the way enjoy your videos. I just found them the other day

[@swilson42]

The pre-peel method is great. And for the situation you mentioned about not wanting to cut into the GoPro, just use scissors to cut it off instead of d knife in those situations.

[@zyxw2000]

I pull up the edge of tape with a razor blade paint scraper, the kind that take 2-sided blades, not a utility knife. The latter is more likely to nick the surface. You just need a razor blade or your fingernail to remove the blue part.

[@Z-Ack]

Ive always left a piece of the backer tape longer than the tape to peel it off.. you just gotta take a little more off the roll then stick it back onto the roll after to keep the backer piece longer. But first time you forget than your fingernailing the stuff off again. Same deal with using clear box tape. Unless you keep the stuff in the holder by the cutter than itll fall back and stick to the roll and you gotta peel it back off piece by piece until its a full length of tape again so i waste a small piece and fold the end over on itself so it wont totally stick like that where you gotta find the end and all..

[@WoLpH]

With regards to the blue to pull it off, are you familiar with Tesa power strips? Basically the exact same idea but packaged. Not that I would recommend it for this case, but they're essentially individually packaged double sided tape with a handle to release it later. Perfect for hanging things on the wall.

[@jspallin]

Check out ATG guns. They are designed to separate the backer from the glue layer. Common in the picture framing world. Maybe some mechanical aspects that could be applied to the next version of your dispenser.

[@theshoreys4741]

I leave the blue stuff on the roll. Easy to grab and pull back when it’s longer than the sticky part.

[@natedoggschip]

Your son is hilarious, great sidekick

[@14mirage]

I am not going to lie…. Your son did better than I can. And I tried the tweezers and the same glasses😁

[@DamianPenney]

I wish 3M would just sell the equivalent of the CA blue tape approach because it works perfectly

[@tinkerer4]

That Old Testament Kat just saved me a ton of time!

[@versailledoctrina7646]

How did you make the gray thing that you put on the plywood? Was it 3D printed?

[@ATG19534]

Here is my trick: stick the tape down, peel back the backer, and then cut the tape off the roll, but just the tape and not the backer. That way you can always keep the backer longer than the tape and have a tab to make peeling easy.

[@ATG19534]

Oh, yep, like that. I should have let the video play out first.

[@JerryPaulTreeCreations]

Huh... I usually just used a smaller bit of the same tape to stick onto the corner of the protective film, and it pulls it right off. ... that's just not nearly as much fun though. :) Cheers!

[@machzel08]

Instead of using a knife to lift a corner slide the knife from the center toward the corner. Get it under the backing. Then lift the blade. Pulls the whole corner up for you to grab.

[@JDeWittDIY]

What brand is that blue double stick tape you're using?

[@JaredRandal]

He said, “You wasted your wood, haha!” 😂😂

[@sevenismy]

A scraper with a plastic blade for lifting the tape off?

[@pat_link_]

Double sided tape is a nightmare,but enjoyed the video and learning the trick from Jonathan

[@WimmDesign]

Watching you and your son interact on this video is awesome

[@JimRimS4S]

I love the tape dispenser. For all you know it could still be the best next thing. I know how easy it is to talk myself out of a project that isn't a sure thing and go back to whatever it was that I was doing. Imagine how many Ideas with the potential to be incredible inventions were dispensed that way. (I use a razor blade)

[@1barbony]

to my eyer, with a little direction there is a viral "Christopher Walken" impression happening

[@terryt2910]

Sweet Video. Isn't the solution finding a tape with more adhesion than your double sided. Use it to pull off the blue cover and then the dubble sided tape when you're done.

[@AndrewKleinWW]

then it just pulls the tape off the workpiece! And I'm not sure I can find sticker tape, thats whey I ... stuck with the stuff

[@terryt2910]

@AndrewKleinWW Pls let me try again. When I use dblsided tape, or others with that annoying layer you need to remove, I place the piece of dblsided, then use a different tape, like duct, and place a bit of it near the edge of the layer to be removed and lift. The duct tape usually has enough adhesion to put off the slip layer. It never touches the dblsided tape, unless you use it to pull that off too, when you're done. And what is that extra protective layer called, anyway?

[@sylvainmichaud2262]

Why don't the manufacturers simply cut the peeling tape larger than the double sided sticky tape itself ? This operation can easily be made in a manufacture.

[@SuperiorEtchworx]

They make the tape in a 4ft wide roll and cut it to width. Overhanging the backing paper would add heaps of complexity and cost to production

[@Mr1982shawn]

The tape manufacturer should just add a flap to one side of the long edge. The flap would provide a place to pull up the mask.

[@virtualfather4117]

Go pro solution clip a piece of the blue be for attaching double sided tape. Stick it to the double sided tape and then apply and cut, your blue removal tape will be there to assist yoy

[@jrobinson953]

Instead of cutting it 100%, cut it 90-95% then pull back into your tape. Pulls the blue backer right off

[@ww-pw6di]

I just cut/score one corner with the knife/scissor and then you have a tab you can pull off with your fingernail and the tiny tab comes off same way too.

[@Scott_Thrasher]

you wasted your wood hahah had me dying id sell a sticker if I was you that was funny

[@1973Grejluder]

Hmm, why not use tape ? Put a small piece of blue tape under the double stick tape. Then you have something to grab on.

[@bpooboi]

Double stick tape is no joke

[@stimu_li]

Huh, I've always scraped my thumbnail over the corner to adhere the tape a bit better and peel the corner back a bit, or make it easier to get my nail under it. Never really thought about it. I use a knife as a last resort.

[@SlowExpensive]

Careful next thing you know Xfasten and you are smoking crystal together waiting for silicone seale to come through a hole in the wall

[@hxdmain]

Your issue is that you’re cutting the tape! If you rip it it’ll have a nice flared edge We use this tape in theater constantly and you’d be clowned on for cutting it with a box cutter over here.

[@hxdmain]

That said. Can I buy a dispenser

[@RazaXML]

a weeding tool? didn't anyone suggest a simple weeding tool? this is exactly what they are used for

[@Raul28153]

use a pin to lift the corner of the dbbl stick tape skin a pin not a knife. You can use the knife but attack it from the top of the skin not the edge. Prick it and pull.

[@MCsCreations]

Well... At least you tried, Andrew! And absolutely, every time we learn something it's a win! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊 BTW, there are some pretty cheap but good rc cars from China... Go get a couple of them and have fun with your kid! 😊 (I just ordered another one from there today! 😂)

[@gregrburnett3400]

Tell us more about that chamfering behemoth.

[@AndrewKleinWW]

the countersink bit?

[@gregrburnett3400]

@@AndrewKleinWW Yeah, that's what I meant. Sometimes it works better to listen to what I mean rather than what I say.

[@maxadrian]

There is a silver foil tape that code here in Portland, Or says must be used on duct work. I like everything about the tape except the freak-in blue backing layer. It takes forever to get the tape started. Very frustrating. This crap must be made by the same devils that make your double sided tape. I like your dispenser.

[@MrCurstesy]

What a great kid.

[@SteifWood]

More kid in videos,,, he's a natural

[@awideman5981]

The caulk bit....

[@paulodeoliveira3368]

Great young man your son is and that you're raising.

[@snakeplisken2123]

You gotta use your fingernail to tear the tape in the middle.

[@clonecone]

That Duck brand is the worst.

[@thesub84]

I thought you gave your kid some duct tape to try to peel

[@Heightren]

I thought you were going to prank your son by using regular tape for him

[@TimothyMakin]

This kids the best!

[@louisedelavalliere171]

ding dong XD . So adorable.

[@DeanStampfli]

Maybe you could sell us some of that really sticky tape instead? lol

[@globyois]

Cute little boy.