Are Expensive Yamaha Amps WORTH IT? YAMAHA A-S801 Amplifier Review

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

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[@SeanVedell]

The 801, purely based on my budget. It sounds like a great offering but I’m confused how an amp can produce less bass than something equally powered from another vendor. I’ve owned nothing but Yamaha since the 80’s so I haven’t thought I was missing anything until this morning.

[@michelfagan4891]

I have the RX-V1085 and noticed it's hard to get good bass even with 2 SVS PB-2000 PRO'S , but even after saying this I can't wait for the RX-A6A to be available. Always been a huge yamaha fan!!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

@@SeanVedell It can come down to the circuit design and other factors beyond just Watts per channel. That said, I wouldn't sweat it. If you like what you have, stick with it. You're not missing anything.

[@SeanVedell]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews I’ve mastered the Yamaha on-screen menus and settings labyrinth. Talk about your 10,000 hours! 🙄 Ain’t no way I’m switching brands and giving up that hard earned knowledge.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

@@SeanVedell I can appreciate that. I feel the same way about my computer(s) and camera gear.

[@Chuek-WaiTai]

Yamaha A-S801 is the best in the price range, especially for those who begin to listen music seriously and like to have a number of analogue and digital sources. Great review. I like the way you present. Thanks.

[@lawchoongseng789]

I SMILED when I heard Andrew mentioned Audiolab 6000A. I can’t wait for the Audiolab 6000A review. Please include how it sounds thru Bluetooth connection. And comparisons to Cambridge Audio AXR100, Rotel A11 Tribute. Thank u. 😀🌈

[@cabronesse386]

This review simulates real purchasing phase before deciding what audio gear that suits the best (price-performance-usefulness) in our daily life, kind of true to life event.

[@SSS-cv7dc]

The AS-2200 is the optimal purchase. You guys should review it. It is soooooo GOOD!

[@cdr1576]

Yes 2200 is very good.

[@poanesbitt]

"Commas in my bank account" LOVE IT! Sounds like the beginning of a hit rap song.

[@thisisnev]

I'm just happy not to see a minus sign in mine...!

[@cartilagehead]

I actually prefer the AS-701. It’s basically an 801 minus the fancier DAC, so it looks better without the DAC lights on the front panel. I’ve seen the 701 go on pretty heavy discount too. Money saved could easily go into something like a schiit modi or better.

[@Duken4evr29]

This would be my approach as well - 701 plus stand alone DAC.

[@aceofspades6667]

My favorite part was the end.. I’m a Hegel owner but if I’m going to upgrade I’m either going luxman or that technics amp you reviewed

[@sabbathAndy]

I have the old Yamaha As500 which is decent. Love the channel! Always a good day when u guys release vids. 😘

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Thanks so much. I love vintage Yamaha too. I miss my old receiver I had from them years ago. Thanks for tuning in!

[@mr.krinkle8261]

Bought a 501 to replace a vintage pioneer 9500 mk II. I Was worried that it wouldn't sound a warm and pleasing as the Pioneer. I'm very happy with the sound of my 501. 501 is 15 watts/ch less than the 801. And it has a fewer digital bells and whistles. And at $549 bux... it's a bargain over the 701 and 801. It's a analog purists amplifier.

[@andreassouth1523]

So it is warm and pleasing? which speakers is playing with?

[@dannytse8767]

The 501 is an analog purist amp? The 501 has an internal DAC.

[@mcsnoopster]

Unquestionably the best part of these reviews is Andrew and Kristis convos. You guys make this channel special.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Thank you so much, Brian C! We appreciate you watching.

[@stevezeidman7224]

I really enjoyed the back and forth between you both today. The bonus conversation was very great. I found this review to be informative and entertaining. One of your best.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@KristiWright]

Thanks, Steve!

[@michaeldunn9228]

Nice review. I run an 802 through Q Acoustic 3050i speakers and picked this package after finding other amps a bit warm for me. I prefer a tighter base and a slightly brighter amp. Playing with the base and treble got everything just right for my room and streaming through Airplay option can produce some stunning reproduction with the right tracks. For the money, a superb pairing 👍🏻

[@dm95422]

The R-S300 uses the same Top-ARt Chassis as the A-S801 & has an FM tuner. Drives a pair of JBL 100's beautifully.

[@Tavarisj]

I also have the R-S300 and waiting for a A-S801, more power but not sure if i am gonna like it better. Hope so

[@DamionG1987]

I love my S501. These are great amps for the price.

[@BruceLayR8]

Yes, this is an amazing Intergrated Amplifier. Heard this one hooked up to a pair of Legacy speakers. They had front bottom and back firing woofers with front and rear firing tweeters. Quite an interesting sound to say the least, I don't know the model of the speakers but they did sound amazing paired up to this yamaha Amp. Even heard them paired to a pair of Martin Logan electrostatic speakers, wow simply wow.

[@user-zx8de8op9l]

My speakers have plenty of bass with this receiver. I have Cerwin Vega RE-38 speaker, they are big speakers with 15"s ub woofers. Loud yes, refined no. A good party speaker.

[@jtaylor0727]

"Meters" lol... I love it... and I agree ... I like meters... but I giggled when Christy said it! She does a great job! You two are terrific!

[@sebg.7614]

@Andrew I start my journey in hi-fi world with my a-s801 and wow I love it so much especially it's dac with usb. First change usb cable with Audioquest carbon and I was blown away and than I change my Mission 702 to Yamaha ns-700x big big improvement. After I tune the ns-700x bracing and isolations. Made a custom Solen crossover change all the wirings, binding post with quality parts and tune it perfect. try different speaker cables and the hepta-litz Solen speaker cables did magic to the bottom end and the balance overall. Finally the biggest change was the Monsoon audioquest ac cable in furutech outlet with a line 10 awg direct in my breaker panel. OMG now the sound is so tight focus dynamic and bass heavy and precise but now I can see that the 801 is at it's limits like you describe. My dealer let me try is dynaudio 40th and no where near in bass as my big 12" ns-700x. I love so much Yamaha sound for it's focus and sound and I ask my self if I go for the a-s2200 or a-s3200, cause I don't like my phono stage on a-s801 and don't like my phono project s2 ultra. I need a good phono to pair my sl-1210gr and those two a-s above seem to fit the bill. Sadly I will need a dac too. your recommendation ??

[@dlmad4561]

So buy your assorted recomendations I now have a 801 s in silver, 2@ KLH -5 speakers a fluance top turntable, a teac a-6300 reel to reel ( my choice) a nakamichi 4s cd ,and a teac 1200 cassette . It is a wonderful set up and I love it all...

[@dropthehammer1360]

Hi. Do you have your impedance selector set at low or high?

[@McBeakerson]

@@dropthehammer1360 , always keep it at high because the low/high option is only for UL regulations. You won't hurt the amplifier in either setting. I own this amplifier and used it in both settings running 2 pair of 8 ohm(equal impedance drop of 4 ohm) and it simply throttles more power initially at the high setting. I'd say the only possible caveat is if you crank it way up most of the time, otherwise all moderate volume(8 oclock to 10 oclock) has no consequence.

[@gamingingalaxy4011]

Got silver one and paired with klipsch rp8000 and sometimes rp600. To me its sounds amazing especially for that price point. I don’t think any av receiver will come close when it comes to music when listening 2 channel stereo. I’ve owned rxa3080 and now sr8015 and i still like listening music on my as801

[@bburkie55]

To answer the QOTD. If it's cost is no object then my choice is the A-S3200. If it's my own money then it's the A-S801.

[@duranarts]

I don't feel comfortable paying a premium for knobs. I loved this conversation not just for being a Yamaha fan but for exposing price differences and their worth.

[@danraschick312]

The 801 pairs beautifully with my Polk Audio monitor 10B's

[@gideonobeng9143]

The 801 is great with my DALI Oberon 5. Great amp. I love it

[@dereknelson7108]

really appreciated this review! I have been looking at this, the axr100, or bumping up to a used cxa60/61, and I think this review pretty much crossed this amp off the list. i'm sure it's great, but after hearing kristi's take and you're follow up it sounds like cambridge is the better deal overall. now just to decide whether the bump up to the cxa over the axr100 is worthwhile for the price difference.

[@KristiWright]

IMO it’s not but then I didn’t care for the sound of the CXA.

[@samgh7166]

Thank you both for the review. Personally, I have no experience with yamaha integrated amps. I wanted to buy a new Yamaha AV Receiver, but I don't like how they look at all. Recently, I bought Musical Fidelity M2si and paired it with Wharfedale Evo 4.2(match made in heaven). I compared the MF with audio cambridge axr80, audiolab 6000a and iotavx sa3. At end, I chose MF because it sounded best to my ears combined with evo 4.2, and it has no digital components because I already have one of the best dacs of the market, namely RME adi-2. IMO, the price range of 400-1000 $/€ is covered competently.

[@The_Mental_Christian]

As far as Two Channel listening it is something worth considering. I like the idea that Yamaha used familiarity in the control knobs as in some of their vintage amps but it would be nice to maybe have another model that has more features. The V6A was mentioned as well but it doesn’t have the features I prefer in my vintage 5.1 channel receiver but; for what it is I think a lot of surround sound receivers will have a more linear sound for less blending between channels or have more of a distinction of direction of where each sound should come from.

[@badbruise]

I’d go with the 1200 just because

[@sidvicious3129]

Andrew its been a while, but this is the direction that I hoped you would go. This reviewing style with your wife was brillant and Kristie stole the show,ha, ha ha. We need to get more women into Audio and Kristie's simple, yet articulate way of describing what she heard and the comparisons was outstanding. Kristie take a bow, you and Andrew are expanding and indeed on the right track. I would like to see Kristie doing some reviews from a non audiophile prospective in front of the camera with Andrew behind the camera giving his prospectives, mix it up a little. I like the both of you and keep up the outstanding work. Stir that pot, Kristie stir that pot!!!!!

[@cluckcluck2001]

I have the 801 hooked up to ELAC's F6.2 floor-standers. Very nice sound across a wide range of music. I'm not sure about your low-end grip comments, as I find there is plenty of bass and control in my setup. Might be my room size - a bit smaller than your room Andrew.

[@phil9593]

Used to be 10 or so shows a year, mostly acts that played in smaller venues (100-300 people.) Now can't get a sitter for my adult age son (development issues) so - may 1-2 shows a year, without my spouse :-(

[@isaacsykes3]

As for the QODT let me see, let me see, hmmm, oh I got it!! The 3200!! Still you guys are the best, keep up the great work!!

[@dgallo123]

Hey Anddrew, tks for your reviews! I actually have just decided to buy the MA bronze 100 based on your review:) Let me know, between this yamaha or the cambridge audio AXR100, what do you think would be a better buy? Tks!!

[@fletchermunson6225]

I auditioned a lot of amps in the under $1000 category and bought the S801. It is a fine amplifier without a lot of the sins and omissions of its peers. It is a fine amp in its priced range. Also I think if you compare the S801 and the more expensive Yamaha amps, you will find that the 801 has plastic knobs vs aluminum on the more expensivi models.

[@JEG6919]

Have one of these on the garage workbench powering a pair of 4312s .perfect.

[@robofguelph]

Great review, especially the comparisons! Did I see a silver remote to go with the black amp? And I’ve always been curious about the diff between this series of amps and the RN series. On the surface, the RN series seems to be a better deal given the network connectivity and cheaper price, but it makes me think they saved costs somewhere, and that ”somewhere” might negatively affect sound quality?

[@cdr1576]

@@Csnumber1 I think they should have black remote with black amp and silver with silver.

[@lekudos]

High end sound: where folks pay infinitely more for fewer (marginal) gains …👀

[@KristiWright]

You're not wrong.

[@BryanRuby]

But sometimes those gains are important to people. Nothing worse than making a purchase today and not being fully happy with the product when you had the option of waiting and saving your money for something you truly wanted.

[@lekudos]

@@BryanRuby I get you and I agree. Just that…sometimes, you step back and realise your (my) dads high end setup from the 80s sounds exactly the same as today’s high end setup as far as my musical ear is concerned. Reminds me of Motorhead’s celebrating 2.9 second 0-60mph being waaaaaaay better than a 3 second 0-60mph 😂 Oh well. Progress. Onwards we march. 👍

[@fonkenful]

The fun of inhabiting the mid to higher end audio market for decades has always been the moving target of the price at which that point of diminishing returns occurs for each individual.

[@hjgarneyiii1970]

Would this a-s801 pair well wit 2 set of Martin Logan motion 40 tower speakers?

[@craigosterberg5045]

Thanks for the video review

[@jamespavier1624]

Comparing an AV receiver to a two channel amp around the same price that could be an interesting review in the future .

[@CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD]

I have a 10 year old ish Yamaha 2 nd from top line AV receiver I'm sure its there low line AV's but I had to add a BBE to get that bass and the mid n high I like in sound Which brings me to Hey do a review on BBE I would really like to see what you would say about that

[@bmboldt]

I scored a mint Yamaha M-60 power amp at Goodwill for $20 recently. Problem is I don't have any preamps laying around at this time to hook it up to. Not sure what I am going to do with it.

[@gilberttahimartin]

I will give you my address and find it a purpose. 😀

[@cdr1576]

Find any amp with pre outputs and hook it up.

[@bmboldt]

@@cdr1576 yeah. None of my receivers have pre outs. Need to find something and unload some receivers.

[@cdr1576]

@@bmboldt yes either vintage or new which have preouts will help

[@dm95422]

Or for the a slightly lower price, you could also get the R-S300 with built in AM/FM tuner. 50 wpc @ 8 ohms. Excellent sound & stereo separation. Drives larger floor speakers with ease.

[@mrpeterfromgodknowswhere]

That's false. 50 W does not drive "large floor speakers with ease". Not if you place them in a larger room (where large speakers belong) and want to listen at high volume eventually. They are not near-field speakers..

[@dennisjohnson1802]

Great review and dialogue you two! I am 63, and have rocked a Marantz 1060 integrated since I was 17. I wanted a change and tried the Cambridge AX100. It was very good, but I felt my old 1060 bettered it in terms of soundstage, even with the old caps being long in the tooth. I considered the 801, and others, but decided to purchase the A-S1200. The 100% analog design appealed to me, as well as the sheer heft of this piece of gear (48.5 lbs). The meters are cool, but I love the sound after 100 hours, and it is getting even better IMO. At my age and after trying to practice deferred gratification over the years, I bought what I really wanted, and am very happy with my purchase! Love your work, Andrew and Kristi.

[@hifismiffy]

Ah ! Yamaha amps with meters - I once owned the CA-810 which i adored. My present one is the predecessor to your A-S1200 - the A-S1100 which barely fits in my hifi tower with its depth. 😀

[@mikechivy]

Ahhh the old electronic break in period 😂

[@spiritualarchitect4276]

How do headphones sound thru your Yamaha A-S1200? Do you think it needs an external dedicated headphone amp attached to it to get great sound?

[@matteup1502]

I tested a Yamaha A-S801 side by side a McIntosh MA8900 and Anthem STR Amp in a treated room with B&W, Paradigm and Magico speakers. If you have the ability to do such a test, you will learn what law of diminishing return really means. The A-S801 is a beast and powered the high-end speakers with no sweat whatsoever. Outside of minimal volume knob position between the 3, there was no difference in how well the $1000 A-S801 performed vs the $5-$6000 amps did.

[@MichaelJamesWood]

Thank you! Your response is ten times what this ridiculous review was supposed to be. I am very happy with the power delivery of the A-S801. I only wish the bass dial was set to the 100Hz.

[@brianjackson6643]

⁠@@MichaelJamesWood Hello, I’m not sure what your issue is with the bass knob. What would starting at 100hz do? Sorry….. might be a dumb question. I’m looking to my my first home receiver or integrated amp.

[@federicogallardo7465]

I have the yamaha as-701 with the Linton 85th. Transparent and crystal clear sound with powerful bass. full-bodied sound

[@עכההנצמ]

With kef ls50 meta this Amp not really sound good 😭

[@federicogallardo7465]

@@עכההנצמ the amplifier is neutral. You may need something to color the sound. Try another dac.

[@KristiWright]

Who else enjoyed watching Andrew's entire soul leave his body during the bonus conversation? :-)

[@ohno-ohno-VW]

Check in 🙌

[@SeanVedell]

It was pretty sweet. 🤣🤣🤣 Sorry Andrew.

[@GB-je5tc]

A good producer keeps the headliner on his/ her toes all the time...LOL It keeps things from getting boring. :)

[@34332]

Yes, lol, that was an added bonus 😄

[@sdemosi]

😂

[@ol8719]

I have the Yamaha A-S701 in black and I'm happy with it. I cannot imagine to have an amplifier in my room looking like a small CD-player. An amplifier should look like one. ;-)

And î want visual beautys : VU s, analyzers, Tone controls...İ ' ll never buy today's ugly bricks...

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

For those of you asking about Pure Direct Mode, here are my thoughts: Pure Direct Mode will be most noticeable if you are currently using Yamaha’s tone controls at which point this disables all of them without you needing to manually adjust them back to neutral. In that respect, the difference will be very noticeable. Now if you aren’t using the tone controls and you hit Pure Direct, there maybe a slight improvement in quality specifically with detail and some top end smoothness, but if you don’t feel the difference is night and day, you’re not wrong. The difference is subtle. It doesn’t suddenly turn the amp into something completely different. I personally believe that because the sound cuts out briefly when engaged, that this could lead to a perception that something more impressive has occurred. All that said, I didn’t find it detrimental. For the record, most of my time evaluating this amp was done with Pure Direct on, so what I describe in my review is what I experienced with PD activated.

[@KeithHeinrich]

I'll add a further caveat and that's the way its used. I've currently got a Yamaha RN602 with a pair of Yamaha two way speakers and sub. I listen to this in my office for hours a day in the background. I listen to everything, it all sounds just fine. Not epic, not awful, just fine. Under these conditions, PD makes no difference but the rotary loudness control sure does elevate the sound at background listening volumes. I never used the loudness control in the main listening space when it was installed there because listening levels were much greater. I guess everyone's experience will vary in this respect according to their application.

[@johnwheat5199]

Agreed, I'll go further, pure direct is barely perceptible.

[@spiritualarchitect4276]

A great man once said, “There are no dumb questions.” So here goes: Are changes to the Tone and Loudness controls noticeable when listening through headphones?

[@johnwheat5199]

@@spiritualarchitect4276 No, but there are another four senses, one of which just happens to be visual!

[@spiritualarchitect4276]

@@johnwheat5199 No? Well that sucks! I really like tone controls, but I do almost all my listening through headphones.

[@tumbleweedconnection7906]

I have the bottom of the food chain... the as301. But it works just fine for me, paired with wharfedale diamond 10.1 bookshelfs..sounds great!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I bet. Enjoy!

[@philchapman1463]

I sold Yamaha amp years ago when the yamaha introduced the loudness control, it was introduced to enhance bass naturally. All other amps would have a "loudness" button you would press at low volume to bump up the bass (a bass boost). So Yamaha came up with the idea of rolling off the mids and highs instead. Its work like this, you crank up the volume and get a nice bass tone going and then you use the loudness control to roll back the mids and highs thus bringing down the amp to a lower listen level but allowing the amp to drive the bass with full current going to it, thus no artificial boost but yet a strong bass response. Its quite a brilliant idea and works well when you understand what it does and how to teak it. It's great with klipsch speakers that can be a bit forward in it projection of sound. The loudness control helps tame that. This also help with speakers that have low bass output because you drive a lot of current to the bass.

[@gideonobeng9143]

Spot on

[@rensopinto2139]

This feature is so nice. Especially living in an apartment. Mine gets hot though, if the volume knob goes up to like 2 o clock with the loudness down almost all the way, I start to get a little worried.

[@BryanRuby]

Kristi convinced me, I don't think the A-S801 would be that significant step up for me as a RX-V6A/TSR-700 owner. Plus, I'm not ready to give up the dream of owning a Yamaha amplifier with meters! Good review as I'm walking away from this video more decisive the direction I want to go if I upgrade my system further.

[@milehighboost5521]

Same here. Love my yahama trs-700. Atmos sounds amazing and my music sounds much better than my prior sony es receiver. Been extremely happy with my purchase.

[@KristiWright]

Glad I could help!

[@esk_71]

I initially bought the Cambridge Audio CXA80 and was not impressed. Perhaps the sound was too warm for my tastes. After some research, I decided to give the A-S801 a try. I did an A to B comparison with both amps and as soon as I plugged in the Yamaha, my old Polks came to life. Without making any tone adjustments, the sound was much more lively than the Cambridge amp. I kept the Cambridge network streamer and sent the amp back. I added an SVS sub to the mix to fill out my system. For a budget stereo, I'm pleased with the sound.

[@rreichar1]

Great review! I really enjoy Kristi’s perspective on these. Partly because I believe that her hearing and mine may have some similarities based on some of her preferences. Also it’s always good to have multiple perspectives in reviews. Andrew is sometimes a bit more measured. I appreciate both views.

[@TylerStout]

I agree with Kristi, v6a would be a better all around product especially since it has front pre-outs so you can get a better amp later for 2 channel listening. That plus it having basic room correction which would be superior to a couple tone control knobs. Honestly I feel like this would be a really good topic for a video as I feel like I can't be the only one who thinks getting a stereo AVR is pointless when you can get a multi channel AVR and it does more especially room correction which most stereo AVRs don't have despite most people's rooms not being perfect. Edit: although most audiophiles are probably anti room correction ie EQ

[@christian2123]

I thought Kristi was going to mention the Yamaha RN 803 stereo receiver but she went all in on the HT receiver. To me I wonder if that RN receiver might be the sweet spot in terms of features but in a dedicated 2 channel setup. It has the tuner, YPAO for room correction and 100 watts same as the 801 (but with a bit more distortion on the receiver) for a few less $$. I think you might have one more Yammy to put on your review list.

[@Holychickendestroyer]

V6-A? Better sounding than the A-S801??? I know the feeling of sometimes having to agree with the wife to keep the marriage harmonious but this is ridiculous 😄

[@m4219]

I bought AS1100 and sold AS801. The sound AS1100 is a lot more powerful and exciting.

[@Duken4evr29]

The 801 makes far more practical bang for the buck sense than Yamaha's more expensive integrateds. The 1200 is the 1st step on Yamaha's stairway to diminishing returnville, but what a lovely step it is.

[@garyjones5947]

Fantastic review and intriguing discussion. I’ve a b listened to the 801 and 1200. I opted for the 1200 and have it here in my lounge. For me, the 801 was good, but the 1200 represented a significant step in terms of refinement, detail and dynamics. The 801 just didn’t move me in the same way…there is a fluidity to the sound of the 1200 too which is so compelling for me. As a post script, I’ve also owned the audiolab 6000 a…it’s something special as here in the uk it’s only £599. Gave me a real insight into the high end world…hence upgrading to the 1200. Once again…fab production…thank you both.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

@Gary Jones, I really appreciate you sharing your experience!

[@enjoyunreality]

I owned a 6000a play and found it was too lean and thin. The punch was there but the punch didn’t have weight. Highs mid was the same very detailed but without weight and color… Is the 1200 „weightier“ than 6000a ?

[@andreassouth1523]

a-s 1200 refinement??For some reviewers 1200 is bright sounding in comparison with 801.

[@garyjones5947]

@@andreassouth1523 having a b tested these two amps, there really is no comparison…the 801 is great at its price point, but the as1200 is a step up in terms of refinement, tonality, detail retrieval, soundstage, imaging, and last but not least, dynamically in a different league.

[@i_am_stc3958]

You guys should really do a side by side comparison over the A-S801 vs A-S1200. I think Andrew made the best point when he stated that one is $900 vs $3000. Is Kristi saying the 1200 is worth more than triple the price and thus worth saving for? I would love to hear why. Keep up the great work.

[@Darkeforce]

What a great review! You two are an absolute delight. Thanks for a great start to my Sunday! Looking forward to your Audiolab 6000a review! Cheers!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Our pleasure! Thanks for tuning in.

[@aaronfrench8322]

Andrew and Kristi, I would love to see you two review either the AS301 or 501. It would be very interesting to hear your opinions of Yamaha’s entry level Integrated’s, and whether or not they are a good value for money at a more entry price point to their relative performance.

[@3811eric]

Come on, AS301 or 501 is not even considered Hi-Fi equipment.

[@lamecasuelas2]

I like how everyone freaks out because they think that Kristi Is being sacrilegious when in fact she Is just using lógic and being a smart buyer. Hahahaha

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

100%

[@amonamarth68]

Please, make a review for Yamaha RN-803, one of the best vfm amplifier....

[@fletchermunson6225]

In my two year journey for a good system. I stopped off with a S801 for quite a while. I really liked this amp. For the money it is really good. If you look closely at the knobs, they are plastic, very good plastic, vs metal on the more expensive Yamaha units. Got to give up something to get something. If you are looking for a sub $1000 amp, give it a listen. Andrew didn't like the look of the knobs when off twelve o'clock, but then it is a great visual reminder as to what EQ that you have dialed in. Swings and round about.

[@stephenstevens6573]

The back and forth is invaluable! The counterpoint between trained audiophile ears, and real world ears is something that we all should value!

[@thorwulfx1]

I own the S-801, running it into Klipsch Heresy IIIs, with a Klipsch sub. Not perfect, but it does many things well.

[@joemaloney7037]

I have the 701, love it, don't need a streamer or dac upgrade. Thx for all ur hard work andrew

[@4thewinir344]

Owned the 801 for 4 years, and it seems to get better with age. It powers my Elac UB5 and Lintons effortlessly. Sadly, you did not cover the loudness control, a wonderful feature for warm sounding, low level listening retaining just enough detail.

[@cdr1576]

@@Csnumber1 agree.

[@andreassouth1523]

So it's better to reduce loudness than treble for more warm sound?I have a-s 701.

[@tealtonerick6345]

But the 1200 doesn't have the DAC! So it can't be compared to the 801.

[@KristiWright]

To those of you who don't like my part in the reviews but are able to simply stop watching when you've gotten the information you need rather than leave a nasty or rude comment letting everyone know just how you feel about how you'd wish I just go away, thank you for being a kind human being. I realize not everyone appreciates my participation. But I am a real person with feelings so thank you for considering that.

[@st3serrot]

I enjoy hearing the perspective of say someone like Andrew or others who are in the industry for their perspectives because of their experiences but I also enjoy listening to your perspective kristi because like you I grew up just listening to my father‘s stereo system and come to appreciate products from the past To the products of the present so listening to a consumers point of view is reassuring because while at this stage of my life I may understand most of the specs when it comes down to it I’m just a consumer enjoying my music, Team formation duo’s

[@MatthewMcGowan]

I love this channel, and my favourite part of the video is Kristi’s reaction. I’m Team Kristi! That buddy guy leaving ignorant, rude comments about you ain’t worth the aggravation. 🤬 that guy.

[@itsvladzino3246]

Well said. For 99 decent human beings, always 1 dysfunctional. Ignore.

[@shemsureshot]

Yeah, it makes no sense that people watch things they don’t like just so they can moan about it in the comments. I like the second half of the show and appreciate two different perspectives as it helps making and validating a decision much easier.

[@ModestoMundo]

I sometimes go to Kristi’s take first then go back to watch Andrew’s. Sorry Andrew.

[@treadwer27]

Sorry Andrew, your reviews have always met with a "YES! Exactly!!!" But, I own a A-S1200 and ditched the A-S801 in preference. So Kristi rules... Just preferred the overall sound and delivery, hands down IMHO. Howerver, I now have a A-S3200, I'm a Yamaha fella for sure.....BIG dancing meters to boot! Just to throw a virtual hand granade into the room; my first integrated amp was a 6000A and I still love its sound... Can't bring myself to part with it. I'm spoilt for choice and look forward to your Review of the Audiolab A6000A and even more to Kristi's review... Own channel?

[@KristiWright]

😍

[@arnoldschloss9634]

Andrew, excellent review; however, it would have been helpful to explain that one of the most critical factors in the difference/quality of sound between the 801 and the 3200, is the quality of the power supply transformer. The 3200 has a massive toroidal transformer, as compared to the 801's walnut sized transformer - of course, your paying a big price for this quality, but you get what you pay for! This is what accounts for the impeccable sound quality of vintage Sansui and Marantz integrated amps - power supplies of tremendous size and quality, in addition to phenomenal build quality.

[@cdr1576]

You are 100% correct old Yamaha series have tiny transformers vs new 1200, 2200, 3200 and that makes huge difference in bass and mids.

[@gregclark8700]

Would love to see you review the RN803, though not having hdmi arc would be a deal breaker for me

[@QoraxAudio]

Kristi caught you off guard haha You didn't expect that one coming, did you? 😜

[@alm5693]

I've got an A-S700 (no digital inputs, 90w pc) on a secondary system and I think it was the best all-around choice for my needs and budget at the time I bought it. I've always loved the control features on Yamaha integrated amps and receivers. I even like the rectangular knobs. It's still running a pair of JBL L-100s that I bought in the mid-70's . Edit: I'd buy a Yamaha A-S1200 in a minute if I could afford it - even though I'm giving up my cherished loudness control.

[@4thewinir344]

That loudness control on my 801 is the reason I would not want the 1200. Low level listening through my Linton 85’s using that loudness knob is a feature I have gotten very used to. And not found on any of the competing amps.

[@spiritualarchitect4276]

@@4thewinir344 How do headphones sound thru your Yamaha A-801? Do you think it needs an external dedicated headphone amp attached to it to get great sound?

[@franciscoortiz6980]

Brilliant... "meters are cool... but so are commas in my bank account".

[@MichaelManningPA]

They sell separate aftermarket '"old school" VU meters...it's not a limiting factor anymore.

[@wymotome]

Had an 801 and ended up sending it back. My main gripe was the fact that the amp did indeed lack low end presence. And the phono stage definitely isn't what I'd consider to be good (serviceable, but definitely not anything more than that). It's a nice piece, but its rather lacking where it counts...how it sounds.

[@zergbong]

I got the Yammi A-S 301 paired with Wharfedale Diamond 12.2 and REL HT 1003 sub. I've tried to go bang per buck as much as possible.

[@andyq9669]

"once you move those dials" it's readily apparent from afar that you've been messing with the tone and balance - a far more reliable and elegant visual feedback approach than having a big glowing screen tell you what's going on (after diving through menus). A perfect alarm if the kids keep knocking the bass and treble out of whack....

[@DocBrewskie]

The kristi section is never lacking entertainment. I like having her point of view included.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Me too.

[@ohno-ohno-VW]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews This is the reason you love her, right?

[@KristiWright]

Thank you!

[@xtaceice81]

I as well, love watching and listening to these two beautiful people!

[@KristiWright]

@@seannewill5520 Yes, they clearly do. Did your comment make you feel better though?

[@djpwl]

I’ve been testing the 1200 & 801. While I prefer the 1200, the 801 sounds really nice. Its build quality definitely feels cheaper, but its DAC versatility (and price) make it very tempting. But is it kind of risky to buy an amp released 7 years ago? Surely an update to the 801 must be imminent.

[@SeanVedell]

“I’d buy the home theatre receiver instead.” YES!! @Kristi Wright YOU GO GIRL! 💯 agree.

[@KristiWright]

:)

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

HAHAHAHA

[@jamieburkett358]

As usual, great review guys. I am finding myself loving the overall Yamaha sound. I just picked up the RN803. Considered exactly what Kristi said on the V6A before buying. I have an V6A in my home theatre, and I love it. However, I decided to go with a stereo receiver for my 2 channel system because the V6A pumps out so much heat when you go on extended listening binges. I chose the RN803 over the AS801 for the connection options it has over the 801 (MusicCast, etc). I am sure the 801 sounds better due to having more money put into just sound vs other options, but the 803 sounds great to me.

[@BryanRuby]

That's an interesting option, the R-N803. How doe it sound compared to the R6A in your opinion? Same, worse, better?

[@jamieburkett358]

@@BryanRuby I haven’t A/B’d it on the same speakers yet. So far I would say more detailed, not quite as forward.

[@bikdav]

@@jamieburkett358 That's what I'm trying to decide also. Can I get away with an av receiver? Or do I have to go 2 channel to get good musical performance? The less separates, the better for me.

[@ramin3080]

@@BryanRuby I had R-N803 and i replaced it with AXR-100 and I regret

[@BryanRuby]

@@ramin3080 What is your biggest regret?

[@ibdam1]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT😂😂. Great review. I own the 801 and 1200. I use the 801 in my living room with Klipsch Heresy 3 and two REL Subs. The sound kicks butt. I think the 801 setup is richer and move lively than my 1200. Saying that, the 1200 paired with my Kef R3 and no sub does offer a more refined sound in a small listening room. I don’t think the two amps should be judged to one another. It’s my opinion that the 801 gives you the power to party and just enough finesse to enjoy a quality recording without being judgmental. If you want to party 75% of the time and listen for fine detail the other 25%, then get the 801. If the majority of your time is spent wanting higher quality sounds, one can’t beat the 1200.

[@spiritualarchitect4276]

How do the 801 and 1200 sound through headphones? Do they have a dedicated headphone amp? Do they need one? Do the tone and loudness controls affect the headphone sound?

[@dodpr]

Hmm. Waited a long time for this. Now Im interested in the Audiolab. Thank you for keeping it interesting.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Thanks for tuning in! We try to keep it interesting.

[@jamespavier1624]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews You and Kristy all ways keep it interesting enjoy your two points of view .

[@tedroybal5231]

I know! This video is old. I'm old. Who cares? I saw this video yesterday. The 801 was the only receiver that checked 100% of my boxes. You convinced me it was the way to go. I saw a local add for used one in black. Called the gentleman. Wonderful guy. Loves audio. He got a whole new system and sold me his prestine 801 for $450. I hooked up my 45 year old ADS 701s that I restomodded. Absolutely love the 801! That you for the content!

[@elche6730]

This is not a receiver! It's an amplifier!

[@daosnet]

I have this amp with a pair of Martin Logan ESLs and a Martin Logan dynamo 700 sub and it has a great immersive soundstage, and really brings to life the clarity and detail of the ESLs. I listen to very complex music - prog rock, jazz-fusion, Indian classical music - all known for their subtlety and intricacies - I can listen to this set up without any listening fatigue, for hours on end.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

It is a surprisingly non-fatiguing amplifier in my experience too!

[@andreassouth1523]

I prefer the yamaha a-s701(that i have with wfs 225s).Same power like the a-s801 and 200 euros cheaper.Also i don't need the dac,i like it more analogue.The mids are huge and the bass is shockingly good/deep.

[@themastroiannis]

great review! would have loved a comparison with your recently reviewed Rotel A11 tribute (also under $1000) and the Cambridge AXR 100 receiver you also reviewed. REALLY looking forward to your review of the Audiolab 6000A. I just bought it to replace my Marantz PM6005 and I'm absolutely LOVING it!! leagues above the Marantz in terms of clarity and definition, instrument placement, dynamics.... (at least for my jazz and classical music listening sessions)...

[@ramin3080]

hi there. what do you think about AXR-100?

[@iancooper3460]

Thanks for the review as always! Really awesome to see you review some of the more budget Yamaha amps as the high end models are currently out of my price range. I recently ordered a silver AS-501 and is still in the return period window. Honestly liking it alot. Your assessment of the 801 in terms of “taming” some speakers has been my experience with some in your face/boomy vintage JBL’s. They now sound just about perfect to me. My question is why the 801 over the 501/701 models outside of more power? Assuming maybe you havent had a chance to hear those so difficult to comment? They seem very similar outside of wattage but maybe i could be missing something!

[@kellypollock]

I got the S501 and think it's a better value than the S801.

[@iancooper3460]

@@kellypollock seems that way on paper to me too which is why I was hoping to hear mention of the other amps. Only difference i can see is a bit more power and ability to directly plug in a USB source. In my small-ish room i definitely do not need more power and my primary source is vinyl/sonos connect so not needing a USB input at this moment.

[@kellypollock]

@@iancooper3460 I'm in a modest room too and so far I'm not for lack of power using the S501 with a sub ...I use the optical in for most things and I'm all good.

[@nicojager686]

I wonder how it compares with the r-n803D.. I struggled choosing between the 801 and the other, ended up with the 803 because of its connectivity, but soundwise.. I still wonder

[@overnightdelivery]

So since most people seem to think Yamaha Amps are on the bright side.. This would probably be a perfect pairing for the Wharfdale Lintons, which some claim are a little overly warm.

[@brolsonmusic]

I use this amp paired with a powered sub and Tekton Enzo 2.7 Speakers, Technics 50th anniversary turntable and Ortofon Blue cartridge/stylus. Sounds marvelous! I listen to everything from Americana, pop punk to death metal. Works with all of those sounds.

[@corymorris5800]

I have the as501 hooked up to Tekton perfect set and it sounds wonderful too

[@fakeusa]

I'd like to hear your opinion of the sound comparing the Yamaha a-S801 vs Cambridge Audio AXR100 or even the AXR85. Thank you.

[@enjoyunreality]

Hey andrew, great Review thanks for that. You should review the exposure 2510 integrated or 3510 integrated. Exposure is a VERY good value. I would be happy 😃

[@vernonleemonii3334]

This clearly shows how differently everyone's ears hear things differently. This is why you should listen to what makes your ears happy and not what the majority always spouts. Good to hear different opinions on this amp. I have it and absolutely love it!

[@gideonobeng9143]

Love it too. Great value for money

[@spiritualarchitect4276]

Does the Yamaha 801 sound good through headphones? Does it have a dedicated headphone amp? Does it need one? Are the tone and loudness still noticeable?

[@vernonleemonii3334]

@@spiritualarchitect4276 I honestly don't use it with headphones so I can't give any feedback regarding.

[@spiritualarchitect4276]

@@vernonleemonii3334 Hmm... I was not expecting that : )

[@GB-zk9ow]

I have the 801 and very much like it. I auditioned the Cambridge Audio AXR 100 first, loved the detail but the sound lacked the presence (or volume) I get from the 801. Plus the Bluetooth on the AXR 100 was horrible. I have paired the 801 with an Andover Audio Songbird for streaming , running a pair of Elac Debut F6.2 - sounds great.

[@andreassouth1523]

So which of them,in your opinion is more smooth at upper midrange and highs?Which is less schrill and fatigue for long listening sessions?Who has the most gentle highs?

[@jeffreywiggin8371]

Or you could save the $300 and get the A-S701 for identical sound, with basically not as great of a built-in DAC.

[@rayray8645]

How much does the dac, if at all, influence streaming from a high definition streaming service. I understand this unit requires an external Bluetooth device.

[@rosco8720]

Agree with you completely. I have the s701. Didn't need the bells and whistles. Was just after crisp, clear sound

[@dm95422]

Or for the same price, you could also get the R-S300 with built in AM/FM tuner. 50 wpc @ 8 ohms. Excellent sound & stereo separation. Drives larger floor speakers with ease.

[@andreassouth1523]

Agree with you completely. I have the s701!!

[@rayray8645]

@@andreassouth1523 that's what I went with. :)