Kia e-Niro: Thoughts after 1 year

Let me start by saying I hope you and your family are well and you're coping during this nightmare.
Today marks the 1st anniversary of getting our Kia e-Niro. What do we like and dislike about it and what will we do in a year when the lease expires?! All this and more of the usual inane ramblings.
Ah, also - a bit of a teaser for something coming soon!
Tweet me: @tillathenun

[@ODCBastler]

Thank you for the review and the very nice way you report. It's a pleasure to watch you and you have the feeling you're telling your best friend all this. Greatings from Germany Martin

[@mangoginger8924]

We bought the Kia EV Niro SX Touring when we went to the Vancouver BC International Auto Show March 19 2019 It arrived approx. 1 month later. Loved it and it had all the bells and whistles ( LED lights Apps UVO etc. The problem with the charge flap is the freezing winter and I had used WD40 which didn't work and had a very thin plastic the length of 3 inches and worked. When the weather warmed up -no more problems. Had no problems with the driver electric seats. I turned the power on and has to be in park and adjusted to where I sat and then press the SET button and no more problems. Had no 12 volt battery problems. Very glad I did my research and test drove other EV's at the car show. Good luck on finding yur next EV.

[@philipsarell2467]

Hi Andrew, thanks for another interesting video. I have just taken delivery of my e-Niro 4 yesterday and love it. Its very fresh out of the box and I am slowly getting to grips with all the gadgets. I took your comments to heart and got a ceramic coating put on mine. Such an exciting car to drive. Just love it, and on the same day my DVLA renewal notice dropped through the letter box to remind me of another saving. In London the noose is tightening for ICE owners as the mayor will introduce more charges for them over the next 12 months.

[@MrEV]

If you notice any weird things happening with the video at a couple of points, it’s either caused by my terrible rural broadband dropping out during the 8-hour upload or it’s a glitch in the Matrix. I think I'd rather it was the latter to be honest.

[@glenreidy]

I did see the same car three times. Maybe a blue pill will help things go back to normal?... :-O

[@stockey]

@@glenreidy Don't buy a model Y, you're used to great build quality with Kia, also Kia and Hyundai are coming out with new AWD EVs soon, check here, you will see new EVs coming soon. thekoreancarblog.com/

[@RWBHere]

Funny, that. Thanks for the great review, Andrew. Have you fitted those roof rack bars the wrong way around, or was that an optical illusion near the start of the video? You probably have it right, but I have to ask. The wider edge should be at the front, as with an aircraft or bird wing. If they are fitted the wrong way around, then drag is increased noticeably in a headwind.

[@JuanCarlosHerediaMayer]

Hi Andrew, I just discovered your channel and begun to watch the most of your contents, thanks for sharing your experiences and tips. I'm using a Kona EV 39,2 kwh (same system of e-Niro), and happy with it too. Keep it going. Regards from Madrid, Spain.

[@a6rrw]

Hi Andrew - thanks for the info re ionity - i hadnt realised they had increased their prices. We only go there en route to the chunnel anyway - as a rule- so no big deal. We mostly charge at home. I agree with all your findings after 1 year - exactly the same for us. I had the gear selector and the chrge door changed at the 1st service at 10,000 miles under warranty - so all good now. Exactly the same problem with the paint under the "P" bubbling. Never seen anything like that on previous cars. Keep up the good work- looking forward to seeing your website

[@kiae-nirodiaries1279]

Thanks Andrew, you are 1 month exactly behind me on e-Niro ownership. I agree on the lane keep assist, you can’t see the button from the driving position but switching it off is as you say ‘muscle memory’. Mine is the lesser of two models offered here in France, manual seats that we find quick and easy to adjust. Mine is a buy as I am retired so it has to be a long termer. I will continue to report out on the experience on Kia e-Niro Diaries.

[@andrewsibley2595]

A real honest and thoughtful video. Thank you Andrew.

[@EEAMD-co6nw]

thanks for sharing your experience Mr. Till.

[@skyfox77]

Finally a new video, keep them coming :)

[@Sangve]

I had my charging port fixed this winter through warranty. Didn't take long and it's worked like a charm ever since.

[@jimvince7877]

Andrew Glad to here your review I have had my Kia Enero 4 now for about 5 weeks now it’s fantastic only managed to have done 250 miles so far just want to get out and use it after waiting a year to get it. The LED lights are great and the UVO app works well and the sound system and screen is really good. Wish all of family well and let’s hope this lockdown is not to long best wishes to all.

[@MrEV]

Well done getting it before lockdown but what a shame you’ve not had much opportunity to drive it. I’ve still yet to see the new one in the flesh - great to hear you’re enjoying it!

[@drpoorna75]

hi I am struggling to do this UVO app . its not working .Any ideas to make it work ...? let m e know . thanbks in advance

[@trolleyboy1000]

Great video some similar issues to the e-soul 30kwh I just handed back. The leasing company will charge you for every nick chip and scrape on the car. I got a bill for £600 for a few super market door dings. Glad you're enjoying the car.

[@stephendye2924]

Great to see you back. Look forward to some more Misterev soon :) btw, there are only two good things about being in the NHS for me at the moment: 1) Thursday evenings 2) That I can drive my Kia Soul (which I got just before the lockdown) to go to work! PS I think the boot in the Soul might not be big enough for your trips to Italy or to move house!!!

[@MrEV]

You’re working in the NHS? You absolute star. Whatever you’re doing, thank you. As for your Soul - that’s the new model then? You lucky thing!

[@malleablemickey]

Same issue with charging flap! I have struggled all winter. Am about to book in for service, and the bloody thing is working perfectly! 😂😂

[@gregpalmer9949]

We bought our E Niro in December 2019. We love it and it has all of the assorted little things that could be better that you mentioned. Our grocery store trips are 80 miles round trip. Electrify America is the charging system here that charges 10 times the retail price of electricity to charge on a long trip. Almost all of our charging is at home, but I hope someday the traveling charge rates make sense. Monroe Oregon USA

[@AndrewJhikes]

Greg, Kia has modified their pricing for us Niro owners for a year, www.electrifyamerica.com/kiaselect it cuts the rate in half here in Washington. You might want to check it out if you haven't already.

[@paulroper4847]

Thank you for sharing your experience.

[@chrisp7214]

Hi Andrew, I love your videos ...I too have recently bought a 4+ e Niro. The current (2022) model has a sunroof, memory/heated seats etc. Mine replaced an older (and much cheaper) MG ZS EV., which was a nice car but had more niggles and 100 miles less range. I've solved my 'lane assist issue' by inserting a very thin cable-tie..that jams the button it. It can we pulled out in an instant ...if required. 😀

[@vorstag]

I don't have a big problem with my e-niro either, too. I only miss a 12V socket in the trunk

[@tonybriard3070]

I’ve had my Niro for 10 months now and I am very pleased with it. I agree about the rear seatbelts, they are very fiddly.

[@MrEV]

Glad you’re enjoying it - and it’s quite a relief knowing we’re not the only ones finding the seatbelts fiddly!

[@Luigi13]

Well, I have been listening to this video attentively and I hear that the benefits outweighs all the small issues you pointed out. I drive the Kia Niro hybrid in the Pacific northwest in the USA, and I love the vehicle. My biggest concern has always been, reliability, range and comfort space included which the Niro allows. I am sure that possible Kia might introduce a better capacity battery for an even longer range and then some of the cost you mentioned will help reduce the need to stop and recharge it frequently. The Hybrid gives me 545 miles of range in the Summer and about 500 in winter. My seats isn't electric on the driver side but then I adjust it once and it stays put. So some of the nitpicking problems you mentioned are very small that can be lived with. The scratching on the paint can happen with any vehicle that rubs tightly against a branch or shrub, it is unavoidable. The Kia Niro with the cargo box looks quite good, not too high and not too low? Tesla had many issues with their vehicles as well you can find many on KZbin. Hopefully they are improving it with each model. The Niro was designed for efficiency and I am sure some of the other manufacturers will catchup, they would not want to loose market share in the end. People will always want the next model and the next which helps drive business and cycle wealth around. It is good to have competition, and then electric stations will multiply and compete as well. Just like the petrol station have been doing for years. Cheers.

[@maxsec2]

Same issue with the charge port for me, one day just started working again... 🤷‍♂️

[@thumper1747]

Hi Andy, great review, reckon you’ll get approached by Fully Charged...re the drivers seat, all the Beemers I’ve had have had memory electric seats, surprised yours doesn’t. Speak soon G

[@Isaac-un4cn]

Good review! I started watching this channel's videos before I bought my Niro EV. Your videos really do make a difference! Like you, I'm really happy with my car. Have not had any 12V battery issues so far (after 6 months), but I also haven't plugged in anything like OVMS. One comment - would not bother switching out the car to get the app. After a 1 year free trial, Kia charges a ridiculous amount of money for the services provided by the app. For example, if you'd like to have the ability to control the climate of your car remotely, it costs $225 USD per year.

[@MrEV]

Thanks so much, Isaac! $225 is absolutely ridiculous! I had no idea it was quite so expensive in the States. ☹️

[@sko1beer]

Thank you for this comment I was bummed when I found out it doesn’t come with the app in Hong Kong and even made me think I made the wrong choice buying it. Well now I know it’s not free I’m more happy about it.I will be get mine delivered in 4 weeks I don’t like the new shape so sticking to this shape

[@AFlyingCookieLOL]

The Kia has a much more conservative EPA range than tesla's rating and even exceeds the base model 3. The Kona EV actually has a range that can actually hit 500km and thats with the same battery and motor. My soul ev has no issues with 450kms. Pain't is on the thinner side but still much better than the tesla panel gaps and paint issues. The X has so many issues I don't want it. I like the E-Niro as well, the soul ev has a more space and headroom and the seats are really comfy and makes you lazy. Friends that have had Mercedes also love it! E-Niro is certainly a great car for the price.

[@gregory1347]

I've been on the fence for about 4 months on buying this car. I actually wanted to wait for the new model to get cheaper but the opposite happened, it got more expensive. The things that stop me from buying it is the price, uncertainty about how battery capacity is going to be affected over time. Another small problem I have with electric cars in general is that so many people are buying them that we're starting to see people in line at public charging places and that's a big big problem I foresaw a long time ago. The reason I don't think it's that big of a problem for me is that I would plan on charging at the office and at home and to only keep public charging as an emergency alternative. Not only are there people in line waiting for their turn but the companies that service those are selling electricity at 50% profit and it starts becoming as expensive as a gas car.

[@alexdalgleish1061]

If they're struggling to build fast enough you're better off keeping. If it's a 23 month PCP dealer may overlook scratches as they want to sell you another. If you hand back to Kia Finance/or the Leasing Company if genuinely leased, and get an MG ZS electric for example you're at risk of a bill for a lot. Glad you like it.

[@highnamroberts]

We are in the UK also.Had ours just over a year and done 7000 plus miles. Mixture of long motorway runs and local. It claims an overall consumption of 4 miles per kwh. We have it on regen 2. Dont try to be economical. Had no issues and the car not seen the dealer since we got it. I dont understand what Ionity are trying to do. It is funded by several manufacturers and the EU so odd that they cannot compete with Tesla network. Perhaps they dont want it to be a success. As you say there are alternatives. Looking forward to your Italy video

[@richardlphillips]

Thanks. Good honest video 👍

[@wobby1516]

Although mines the Hyundai Kona Electric I agree the seats are a right faff especially as in other countries the have a memory function. On our first service we had fitted under warranty a replacement water! I think it had something to do with the battery management.

[@aquissuk]

0:20 The early beginnings of a Star Trek transporter. It's amazing what people create whilst in lockdown.

[@MrEV]

It would take me ages to try and recreate that special effect! It took 8 hours to upload the video and life’s too short to re-upload!

[@Vger888]

Just wondering if any tax is payable on public charging and how much? Vat for example and what percentage?

[@gerryheery1388]

Thanks for the honest review just wondering what the audio sound is like when playing mp3 from the usb

[@oykkh29]

Great . You are back. I also have an EV now. An E-Tron 50. 2 year leasing

[@MrEV]

Congratulations! How are you finding it? I’ve not driven one yet but the interior is so classy. Well, it’s Audi after all!

[@briankirby6714]

Torque Detail Ceramic coating stop srcatches and works especially well on my 2019 kia niro ev snow white pearl finish is beautiful

[@MrCalnadrak]

Another really great video. The rear seat belt has been the biggest issue for my wife, as she struggles to lean across our son’s car seat to click it in place. I keep having problems with the charge cable locking in car, but I’m convinced I’m just being stupid!

[@MrEV]

It’s so reassuring to hear other people having the same annoyance with the seatbelts. I really thought it was just us! I’ve had a couple of experiences with the cable locking and to this day I don’t know how I sorted it. Lots of desperate turning car on and off, unlocking using the keyfob etc. Like you, I’ve been convinced it’s user error so I’ve not mentioned it in the video. I’ll record it next time!

[@MrCalnadrak]

Andrew Till Yeah, the cable locking is weird. The first time it happened, we were at a Pod-Point public charger and I called Pod-Point to help release it. They had to shut down the charger remotely! It took about 30 mins to get resolved, which wasn’t the best way to impress my wife and son of the benefits of free public charging 😣

[@malleablemickey]

Re locked charging cable. I found out I always put my foot on the brake when I press the start stop button to switch off the car. So if it's on and charging, and I switch the car off (with foot on brake) ithe cable won't unlock. If it's on and charging and I just press the start stop button to switch the car off (no foot on brake) the charging cable unlocks. Really weird and quite possibly unrelated to your issue! Anyway hope this helps!

[@anthonymorgan1445]

Good video on the car and a tip as a former TV photographer - pin the LAV Mic to your other side so the mic points toward your mouth. Or you should be able to flip the clip if you are constantly looking to that one side. It will help you audio quality and hear less birds or "loud air" when outside.

[@MrEV]

Thanks so much for tip, Anthony!

[@usfouru2]

I bought an MG ZS EV on the 1st March and within the 3 weeks I was allowed to drive it in UK until lockdown i drove over 1000 miles and for me that's a lot. It's my first EV and as per some of the other comments I would never go back to ICE. BP Charge master or Polar are great as they give you first 3 months subscription FOC and thereafter it's £7.99 a month and by paying this fee it drops the cost from 30p per kw to 15p per kw. In the Yorkshire area Engie rapid chargers are FOC until Oct 2021although with having a Zappi V2 installed I'm finding I rarely need a rapid charger for day to day usage:-) Kia is great as I test drove the car but with MG ZS EV costing just over £24K the £10K saving over E-Niro was too great:-) Great video review !

[@MrEV]

Great choice! The MG ZS is a fine car by the looks of it. Such great value, too. The Polar subscription is good value too. If I drove more I’d certainly get it.

[@usfouru2]

@@MrEV Hi Andrew, I have subscribed to the polar plus (first 3 months free) but like you I tend not to drive enough to continue with subscription but it's certainly good value dropping kWh prices to 15p or free in some instances:-) I'm hoping a 3rd party company like OVMS develop an app for the MG ZS EV as this is one thing that most owners have an issue with as the Indian/Thai versions come with app but Europe/UK do not (GDPR issues I think).

[@-jonesy]

nice update - have issues with using unsocial media like twitter so please keep up posted here - many thanks

[@drpoorna75]

Is there any app like tesla or I pace to see the charging and other features ? anyone tried any app for E niro . Please reply

[@otleybull]

That intro was classic Partridge!

[@twcz3]

Have you had to address the low speed druming sound, as you coast to a stop?

[@Zimpaz]

Can you put pre conditioning on a timer? On my egolf I can pre set departure times and it heats up / cools down for that time. No app needed

[@AhuizotlXiuh]

You can set 2 departure times and select which days they work. AFAIK they only work if the car's plugged in.

[@glenreidy]

Your clever pr trick got me. Can’t wait until the 20th April.

[@stephenclay6852]

Glen Reidy why what’s happening on the 20. Is it your getting one on that date. If so I should have been collecting mine on that date. But don’t expect to get it at the moment dew to the lock down.

[@glenreidy]

@@stephenclay6852 Hi Stephen, sorry no that's the date Andrew's website goes live. The website address appears on the top right of the screen for a split second when he says he'll keep the website address a secret.

[@anthonyschofield7807]

I will buy one when we in the UK are offered the specs as the USA and Canada

[@constructioneerful]

Nice car. Hope the Hyundai group weathers the downturn. Some others seem to be quite precarious, and if they get public money and still fail to make proper EV that'll be silly. Had to use the jog dial quite carefully toward the end.

[@patrickfavier4310]

Does the UK version lacks the drivers seat memory positions ? (driver 1 and driver 2 at the door panel) Dutch version has it. Still to bad the passenger seat is not electric though.

[@MrEV]

Sadly, yes - we don’t get that in our version.

[@JS-zb6zh]

I've recently had a problem with my kia e niro after 10months home charging Type 2 AC 7.2kw is no longer working has anyone else had this issue? if so how did you resolve it. home charger is working fine I've checked on another kia e niro

[@Bawdale]

Checked the resale value of your car based on registration and 18500 miles driven and it was £30.9k private sale £29.8k trade in. Keep it.

[@ateeqn1985]

10:08. Paint thin, Totally agree. I noticed lots of small scratches on the front bumper after 10k miles

[@AhBeeDoi]

Couldn't you extend your lease until the Y becomes available? You could also mull over other options that become available in the interim.

[@MrEV]

I’ll certainly think about extending the lease although as great as the e-Niro is, I do like the idea of trying something else.

[@sashek8451]

She’s the most important one in the house 🥺✨✨

[@swedenevguru8483]

Yes the uniqorn all wanted 2019, 2020 Aiways U5 65 kwh will compete with this one in size and im guessing cheaper.

[@B0BHW]

I have a Tesla Model 3 LR, but can't get it insured for driving tuition. Yes, I'm a driving instructor. And yes, I was stupid thinking I'd be teaching in a Tesla. But hey, it's a great family car now. No, cross out the word 'great'. It's an awesome family car. This was an excellent and timely video clip Andrew, because the Kia e-Niro is on my short list as next tuition car to replace my current Ford Focus fossil burner. However, there's just one thing that's bothering me: We get to do the smug 'Tesla Wave' to other Tesla drivers while we're out and about. If I wave to other Kia drivers, will they ... yeah ... they will won't they! Hmm. 😟

[@MrEV]

That’s a good point! No-one can tell the e-Niro is electric so waving to other Kia drivers just results in looks of confusion. 😃

[@urahoho]

can you tell me how much of a reduction in efficiency there was with a roof box on top? how many miles did you lose?

[@Lewis_Standing]

My petrol car goes from a 61 mpg to 57 with the rack and box on. Suzuki swift not a Niro but it's a lot less dramatic than I had assumed

[@John-209]

@@Lewis_Standing What petrol car gets 61 miles per gallon?

[@aquissuk]

I'm 6 months into I-Pace ownership and like you I will never go back to ICE.

[@richardcorns8553]

Same here with my Model 3. Had it 6 months and will never go back to ICE.

[@arjan2970]

7 months and 30.000km in a Kia e-niro. Every day it is so much fun driving this electric car. Never an ICE again!

[@twigrose69]

Hi Andrew, it's only 50% of the VAT on a lease that you can claim (and none if you buy outright) unless it's a taxi or similar sole business use. Can't wait for mine to finally arrive 😁

[@112deeps]

Go for eNiro. It make you smile

[@rezzaislam8556]

I am currently driving a E-niro 4+ 71plate 1) The outside and inside meterials are mostly made out of cheap plastic. My car was hit by on coming traffic whilst I was stationary. The driver was doing around 15mph which was a Golf GTI. My front bumper cracked into pieces and the right front wing was pushed in. The washer bottle too was shattered. The total cost was £6K for repair. I was lucky it went down as a non fault accident. Now if I was not in my car and someone had hit and run. I would of had to go through my insurance, or be out of pocket for 6k. 2) Rear seat belt is another issue, the belt does not roll back fully and sits tangled up. When driving the seat buckle makes horrible knocking sounds as it hits against the cheap plastic meterial, which in my opinion should be padded meterial. 3) Charging from home is perfect and the savings are great, if you can leave it plugged in overnight to fully charge. But charging from charging points are very expensive and works out similar to a fuel car. Lots of time wasted finding a charging point. Waiting for a free space to plug in. 2-3 hours can be wasted. My overall opinion is the car is fantastic to drive and the handling is great. Its highly priced at 40k+ Which is really not worth it. For a family of 5 of us the boot space is very compact.

[@antoineantoine706]

To get a better charge price on IONITY, did you try to subscribe to the German Maingau rfid card ? Here in France we get 0,40€ /kwh thanks to this company .

[@nicksportster8711]

Will the minor scratches be classed as 'normal wear and teat' when you come to hand the car back.? Asking as this is the car i am looking at leasing too...

[@MrEV]

I'm really hoping so! I'll find out in April...

[@van03de]

Great review! I got my eNiro in last September and love it. The driving seat of my car has a memory function for two seat and mirror positions. That's very useful. The charge flap has the same issue, not opening properly in winter. About Ionity: It's a shame that KIA has not joined the Ionity cooperation so far. This being said there are better options than paying 0.79 € per kWh. Have you got the Chargeprice app? According to this app the best prices at Ionity charging points are offered by French provider Chargepoint (7.60 € flat) and by German provider Maingau (0.35 € per kWh). About your future EV: You may consider VW ID.3 and ID.4 and Mercedes EQA as well if they are available in time.

[@bilgyno1]

What about charging speed in colder weather? I'm eyeing this car, because the 2021 model ticks a lot of boxes for us at a very good price. However, we make a lot weekend trips to our second home, which is around 400km. It's OK to have a charge stop somewhere mid way in Belgium, but would prefer it to be no longer than 15 minutes. Now, at 80 kW charging, that should work well enough (300 km winter range, so need another 25% or 16 kWh, while 15 minutes at 80 kW gives around 20 kWh). However, I do see a lot of info that in winter people hardly ever get top charging speeds. So, if it would only take 30 kW, I'd have to charge for about 40 minutes and that's too much for this trip (we leave eg Friday 6 PM after work, and don't want to arrive too late with our young son). So you reported around 220 mile winter range. At what speed is that (highway?), and do you then get full charging speed if you pull up at an ultra fast charger (100+ kW rated)? Thank you and good luck with the channel!

[@robshaw4780]

Excellent videos Andrew, you're clearly a very engaging chap. I'm convinced that I need one of these things in my life but I need to know what the measurement is across the rear (3) seats, can't find the dimensions anywhere. If you or anyone really can let me know next time they are in the back of an e niro with a tape measure I would be very grateful. Top vids, looking forward to Italy (no pressure), need to get there vicariously from my lockdown bunker. Hope the incident with the spider ended well. Cheers

[@ronald6581]

Have a look at the videos from Bjorn Nyland: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6SYl4lnhMZlrNE He uses a tape measure to measure the interior.

[@robshaw4780]

I will thanks

[@MrEV]

Sorry for the slow reply. I was convinced I’d measured this in a previous video about the boot size but sadly not. Do you still need the measurement? I’ll get it for you tomorrow if so.

[@robshaw4780]

@@MrEV No problem, as suggested by ronald6581 I found it in Bjorns' video and got my name down at the local dealers but probably won't see one until next year. Should be news on the new Skoda by then. Found it on your new site last night, you have been busy, excellent job. Well done, cheers

[@mezuk04]

considering this as my next company car

[@Alex-qv5py]

Got a 4+ coming imminently as a company car . Can't wait.

[@tazgilleye]

I ended up getting the charge port release replaced under warranty

[@elbowsyoutub]

Thanks for the video, did you keep it after the lease ran out?

[@MrEV]

Sadly not. A video coming soonish about that.

[@alanthorpe1132]

For UK charging I use Instavolt - 35p per Kwh, reliable, and always (up to now) available. 2 other complaints - the reversing camera is fine in daytime, but terrible at night. The satnav seems not to be updating - more than once it's shown misleading speed limits, and while it occasionally warns me of traffic, it's terrible at alternative routes. Its ETA calculations are always hopelessly optimistic, too.

[@MrEV]

Instavolt are fantastic: by far the best of the chargers I’ve used in the UK. Great point re the reversing camera. As for the sat nav, I’ve never relied on it - always having used CarPlay. I’ll perhaps do an episode just about that some time.

[@Alban_Gaultier]

Hi Andrew, with chargepoint card IONITY remains 8€ !

[@andrewtill1369]

Really?! Fantastic! That’s a great tip. Thanks Alban.

[@Alban_Gaultier]

@Richard Wood I live in France and the last time I've charged my EV was just before we had to stay at home (3 weeks ago) and according to french forum they all said that chargepoint kept the IONITY prices, so I took the card and charge at ... 8 €, well each time your money account is lower than 10 € it automatically refund it (you have to enter your credit card number but there's no extra costs)

[@gordonross8524]

Hi Andrew, are you doing a video of your road trip to Italy. A trip I’d like to do myself.

[@gordonross8524]

Should have asked after watching this 😀

[@jaywillow4432]

Uber driver is what comes to mind when I see a Kia Niro. If you live in London, you know

[@AzizIzgin]

Which model eniro has the app? I’m looking at buying an eniro 2020-2021 or a mg marvel 2022. Depending on which one is more convenient for everyday use and maybe taking on 3 longer road-trips / year. We live in Sweden. Let’s say that I will be traveling 600-700km which car will do it easier and when is one better than the other ? Are there some with experience regarding the differences between maintenance between these cars? Either I’ll buy an eniro 2020/21 that have gone 50000km for around 27500usd or a marvel r lux for 34900usd that has only 7000km on it. What do you think? Which one is worth buying and which would decrease the least in value within around 5-7 years in your opinion?

[@MrEV]

I don't know if trim levels are different in Sweden, but in the UK it's the e-Niro '3' and above that have the app. Unfortunately I know nothing at all about the Marvel as it's not a car we get in the UK. I had a quick look at the Marvel's specs though and they look quite impressive. Great that it has vehicle-to-load, and can tow, wireless CarPlay/Android Auto. It also charges a little faster than the e-Niro. In terms of maintenance, in my experience the e-Niro has been very reliable. Both cars have great warranties, so that would put my mind at rest. My guess is the e-Niro will depreciate less than the Marvel, purely because it's cheaper to begin with. All I can say is, test drive them both and see which you prefer. Hopefully if someone else sees your comment and knows the Marvel well, they can comment with more authority than me!

[@AzizIzgin]

@@MrEV thanks a lot for your time 🙏🏻 In Sweden we have “advanced (lowest) advance plus (medium) advance plus tech (highest trim)

[@jordanbaldi2832]

whats wrong with being flappy?

[@dcvariousvids8082]

The newer eNiro still doesn’t have blind spot monitoring/alert, nor rear cross traffic alert, or a memory for the electric seat, nor an electric seat for the front passenger, nor heated rear seats in UK spec., nor a 12v or a USB for rear passengers in UK spec, nor a 12v in the boot area in UK spec... apart from those, I’m still interested.

[@AhuizotlXiuh]

The base Niro I drove had blind spot and rear cross traffic alert. The upper trim has power seats and I think memory but I'm not sure. Weird.

[@anthonykelley7734]

I have a spot on my check just like yours. Mine is cancerous. I hope you see a dermatologist and get a biopsy. Good Luck.

[@MrEV]

I'm very sorry to hear that. Can yours be removed? Thanks very much for your concern. I had mine checked many years ago and it's just seborrhoeic keratosis but I will get it checked again. I do hope you'll be okay. All the very best.

[@anthonykelley7734]

@@MrEV thank you. I’ll be fine. Never hurts to get things checked out. By the way. I have a Kia Niro hybrid. When it’s time for a new car it will be a Niro electric. I drive down the east coast of the U. S. Thank you for your KZbin.

[@TassieEV]

Wish Kia had brought it to Australia only sister car, Kona, which is smaller is available and no heatpump. Maybe in future if change in government or government policy.

[@marcusevjourney566]

You should probably keep your eNiro but the VW ID.4 should be out in March 2021.

[@jimaustin6410]

Can you use a Shell credit card with the Ionity charger?

[@MrEV]

Sadly not.

[@jackp2563]

Put deposit back in May 2019 , gave up in Nov 2019 for RAV4 Hybrid instead. Kia Canada to this day refused to issue refund ! Might take legal action

[@MrEV]

That’s ridiculous! I see no reason that wouldn’t be refundable. Good luck with the legal route: it may take that to get the money out of them. ☹️

[@johannidde]

Dust on the reverse camera is an issues. I drove to Austria and back on 50kW Chargers. Most of them free, but had to pay on two of them, but at least reasonable prices.

[@MrEV]

Great point about dust. It needs a tiny little wiper on the camera lens!

[@johannidde]

@@MrEV yes or like in the Scandinavian Facebook group someone made a homemade flush part from Skoda Yeti and put there. Even better than risking to scratch the camera with a brush :)

[@ateeqn1985]

I had that problem too... But then I started washing the car 😂

[@chabnairolf]

I'm still waiting after one year (15 month). Ordered january 2019.

[@MrEV]

That’s a ridiculous wait time. Have they given you an update?

[@wattouk]

Really ? I ordered in Feb 19 and it turned up in Jan 20. Took delivery March 02.

[@Michael_Ortwein]

Waiting time more than one year, cancelled the order last week, will get a petrol car next week. Beside a Renault Zoe ZE 50 in a few weeks ... We owned a old Zoe already for 3 years

[@chabnairolf]

@@MrEV In February 2020 (before corona pandemic) new delivery date was May 2020. Next week I will ask my dealer for new information.

[@danlovett2158]

Should of been getting ours this month, but with virus and now the garage shut, just a waiting game.

[@Alrukitaf]

All car companies should be making deals with Ionity where the subscription is paid when you buy (and service) your vehicle. They don’t have to offer the same deal to Tesla because they have their own charging network.

[@cawfeedawg]

in Connecticut I found two e-niros for sale and they were asking more at the dealer than Tesla M3 SR+

[@ScottBergerMN]

Pre tax credit?

[@stanfoyle8453]

The guy in Norway tested Nero and Kona and the Nero had memory seats. How come we can’t get that in UK?

[@MrEV]

Good old-fashioned cost-cutting for the Brits. ☹️

[@Paulisherebrewing]

@@MrEV cost cutting in Ireland is worse, no heat pump, led h/lights, electric seats or subwoofer.

[@tonychau996]

I had not driving for 10 years , want buy a car now, are 7 recommend me to e jira now, I am lazy for maintenance work

[@marcbruneel1858]

As an owner myself, imagen that I've to choose another one out of the kina/e-Niro/soul I'd be frustrated not having the possibility to change different settings in how to drive/Regen. You can set and forget or change when you want. Lane keeping I think you live in the wrong area. Seats, I didn't pay for the leather seats but you've versions with memory. And the seatbelts at the back, do you really put stuff on the middle seat? And for Ionity, yes I'm frustrated, not that I'm using it so much, so even when Kia comes with a solution it will be too expensive for me. But if you think that the 77kW is only available between 20 and 54%, what's the charge time difference on doing that part on a 50kW charger. Ok I know, France is a disaster for this moment. And long trip are mostly for holiday's so it doesn't matter these supplementary minutes. And just waiting until covid left the country to do my second maintenance I'm very happy with my choice and can't improve myself for this moment.

[@MrEV]

Glad you’re enjoying it as well! Sadly we don’t have the option of memory seats in the UK. As for the back - we tend to always have things on the middle seat: usually the dog! That’s a good question about the charge time difference. It takes approx. 11 minutes charging between 20-54% on IONITY compared to 30 mins on a 50kW charger. That’s still assuming it gets 77kW of course as I’ve found it’s quite a rare occurrence getting full speed.

[@marcbruneel1858]

@@MrEV Last time I'd charged on an Ionoty it took me only 15min of 77kW. The day before it wouldn't charge above 55kW, probabelly a colder battery. The day after the Ionity wouldn't connect to the car with the error 'car must be shut of', while the car was already locked so I'd to use the 50kW charger and it took me only 25min to reach the same amout as for the 77kW time of the Ionity HPC. A difference of 10 min when both chargers works perfectly uder the best conditions.

[@Zimpaz]

VW ID4 could be a good option?

[@MrEV]

I completely forgot about the ID.4 - good point! Yes, that could definitely be an option.

[@davidpearn5925]

Bring on Italy pls.

[@wattouk]

And you still have the roof rack on ?

[@MrEV]

We’ve been driving around with the box on the top as well until quite recently. Pure laziness. 😀

[@skepticalmechanic]

The charge door wont open because you have to hit the door unlock switch...

[@KJSvitko]

Stay safe, stay home, wash hands, keep social distance, wash counters, door knobs and other surfaces.

[@davidpearn5925]

The lack of supply (zero in Australia) makes me wonder if Kia and Hyundai actually want EVs to kill their ICE versions.

[@madmax1412]

It was reported that the KIA Soul (I know video is about the e-Nero) release in Australia was being pushed back to at least 2021 as demand for the car is high so they are using stock to supply UK, Europe and US whereas Australia has 2 issues - lack of demand (probably due to lack of charging infrastructure plus how can demand increase without sales - ie chicken and the egg issue) and both lack of Government incentives and/or lack of penalties for not having EV's. Other countries have certain emission levels manufacturers have to meet and they do this by EV sales (hope I explained that properly). I'm from Australia and frustrated seeing what other countries can choose from, yet here any EV for sale is only available through some dealerships and usually only in the capital cities.

[@be236]

So, UK has 2-year leases? I wish we have it here in "the states." Here, typically car leases is 3-years. Also, Model Y has arrived in "the states" just recently... anyways, I have LEAF 2017 and hope to upgrade to Kia Niro EV soon, as we have plenty of these model year 2019s available, and model year 2020s just landed in the last few weeks.

[@MrEV]

Yes - we do have 2-year leases although longer ones are more common. You’re fortunate “in the States” (sorry if that grates - I’ll avoid it in the future!) as your MY19 Niro EV spec was already much better than ours. Whichever you get will be fantastic and should be quite a step up in range from the LEAF.

[@be236]

Oh, that's fine, calling it "the states." I think it's funny... I use that phrase in my writings a lot too... I like the British way of talking... and I like your nit-picks about this Niro EV (as it's called here) ... my main gripe about it is the dangling charging port caps, looks so cheap.. I prefer Nissan LEAF charging door and port with hinges. Though Kia Niro EV will almost have three times the range of my LEAF 2017 (it gets about 100 miles range if I drive efficiently)...

[@mike142sl]

And I found the secret website - I like it very much, it looks like it will be very useful in my search for an EV :)

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

Andy are you near glouster or Bristol Forest of Dean ? My first ev youtuber in 2015 Ian Sampson lives in the uk near gloustershire Forest of Dean area

[@MrEV]

No - the other side of the country in Canterbury, Kent. 🙂

[@alanboothby7960]

Hi , did I see your website name in the top right hand corner ?

[@MrEV]

😉

[@bryandouglas-dala8782]

Hint...use your pause button on the video -:)

[@suzannafreeman-fanuelsen5240]

har kjøpt 2021 modell nå og den har elektrisk stol med minne :-)

[@ukcarver]

We have been for a test drive in the e Niro and really wanted to like it but was very disappointed at how noisy the was, road and wind noise and when stationary I thought there was music on the radio but it was a whine .. couldn’t live with it.

[@GautierRouleau]

Great review. OVMS question: should I wait for developers to support my car (Peugeot e-208) before buying an OVMS ? 🤔

[@MrEV]

How are you finding the e-208? Lovely looking car! If you’re quite technical and are happy to do lots of testing for them, I’m sure they’d lovely to add support for the e-208. Perhaps ask on the forum first before you commit to buying one! www.openvehicles.com/forum/28

[@berthogendoorn722]

You will find on the 2020 Kia-e-niro model, same as my 2020 Kia Soul EV, in the setup you can initiate 12volt battery saver, which initiates the 400/to 12volt Dc to DC converter to maintain the 12volt battery state.

[@Sangve]

You have that in the 2019 e-Niro as well but I've heard others who drained their 12volt battery with OVMS or Autopi despite having the battery saver option on. I heard that there might be limitations to how many times the 12volt battery can be charged between trips as someone even had their car plugged in at the time.

[@EV_OBD]

@@Sangve Battery Saver+ tops up the 12v battery with a fix amount of energy - 20 minutes every day, even beyond the 10th day stated in users manual - but it is just enough to compensate for standard battery drain in a closed car without additional energy consumers. Unfortunately e-Niro does not measure nor compensate for the parasiticl current of a dashcam, OVMS, etc - such appliances will significantly increase the standby drain in a closed car, and after only a few days the battery may run flat. The AGM battery - if left flat even for a day or two - may suffer irreparable damage.

[@Sangve]

@@EV_OBD thanks for the additional information!