A quick fix for EV charging infrastructure? A look at EV charger sharing app, Joosup

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Andrew Till / Mr. EV

Andrew Till / Mr. EV

Күн бұрын

Lack of charging infrastructure is a real concern for people without off-street parking. We have rapid chargers and destination chargers all over the place, but they won't be as cheap or convenient as charging at home.
With so many people already having chargers at home, maybe it makes sense to rent them out when not in use to people that need them?
There are a handful of apps that enable this but here's a look at one of the newer kids on the block: Joosup.
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Chapters:
00:00 - We need infrastructure
01:21 - Introducing Joosup
04:01 - Booking a charger
05:56 - Charging, and making a soggy doggy
08:17 - Conclusion

Пікірлер: 165
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
Remember to use the code MREV when you register in the app to get a free year's subscription. Download it here: www.joosup.com
@rjdverbeek
@rjdverbeek 4 ай бұрын
It would be great if the different apps would work together so you don't need several apps.
@chargehanger
@chargehanger 3 ай бұрын
I recommend adding a Chargehanger to your home setup for cable tidyness
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant 👏 we already invite my neighbours to 'plug in' if im out and i can see im 'dumping' onto the grid my spare electric from my solar , but this is Orkney 😊 and my neighbours are lovley 😊
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
Love it. If any of your neighbours puts their house on the market, there’ll be “Lives near Jonathan Porterfield” on the estate agent’s details! 😀
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield 4 ай бұрын
@MrEV 😀 That's 20% knocked off straight away !
@Kansloos_
@Kansloos_ 4 ай бұрын
In Belgium we get a tax credit if we install our home chargers and make them public. After that, they can be found by Shell Recharge, Chargemap, etc.
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
How fantastic!
@jeremyfk
@jeremyfk 4 ай бұрын
That's a fantastic idea! If only every State was so forward thinking.
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube 4 ай бұрын
Criminally corrupt UK gov would instead be looking for a way to tax that.
@uproid
@uproid 4 ай бұрын
@@djtaylorutube I don't think they need to look for a way - it's already there. It is income and it is taxable in UK, so you would have to declare it on your tax return and pay income tax on it. Nothing to stop HMRC getting an account and looking to see who is sharing. THey could also require Joosup to supply them with data - that is what happens with Ebay, sellers on Ebay get automatically reported to HMRC, this might be just the same.
@JohnnyMotel99
@JohnnyMotel99 3 ай бұрын
I have read that as BT rols out FTTP, a lot of the old green boxes become redundant, the plan is to convert them to street chargers.
@MrEV
@MrEV 3 ай бұрын
I heard the same. A great idea!
@TheZitherish
@TheZitherish 4 ай бұрын
We charge an MG for its owner once a week. Scary amount compared to our little ol’ leaf. One time tho, the wind blew all the crap on our neighbours shed into our drive. Luckily only a piece of plastic guttering landed on the car with no damage. I think an at your own risk clause would be a good idea.
@AJAC1
@AJAC1 4 ай бұрын
Hey Andrew, good idea will Flaviana be serving takeaway Italian cuisine 😂
@Magic-Smoke
@Magic-Smoke 4 ай бұрын
🤣
@chrispnw2547
@chrispnw2547 4 ай бұрын
Ha!!! The only takeaway she would be serving up would be ‘Saucy Language Served on a Bed of Grimace’. Imagine the reviews on the site. 😊
@David-bl1bt
@David-bl1bt 4 ай бұрын
​@@chrispnw2547😂😍
@michaelgoode9555
@michaelgoode9555 4 ай бұрын
I have seen similar on other apps local to me. When we first got our EV we didn't have home charging. The rate being asked for 7kW charging was very expensive (upto 20 pence per kW more expensive) than public 7kW kerbside charging. Inevitably we used the 7kW kerbside charging in the town centre instead.
@jeremyfk
@jeremyfk 4 ай бұрын
It's a good idea but I would be nervous around issues like insurance. What happens if a user damages your charger or your property or even has a fall or something on your property. Who's liable? Will the service provider cover you the way AirBnB do with Host Insurance or are you left to get your own public liability insurance?
@AlanTov
@AlanTov 4 ай бұрын
Is it any different from a postman, delivery driver having an accident? If you worry about damaging the charger you’d probably worry about anything, it’s just plugging in.
@jeremyfk
@jeremyfk 4 ай бұрын
@@AlanTov absolutely not the same thing. A service provider entering your property does so at their own risk and are covered by their own/companies public liability insurance. By opening your charger to the public you essentially become akin to a petrol station or a supermarket. You are stating that the service you're supplying and the property it is located on is safe and fit for purpose. While most home insurance policies will cover you for for someone having an accident on your property they will not under any circumstances cover you in this case because you're being paid and therefore are a business and private home insurance does not cover business use.
@ziggarillo
@ziggarillo 3 ай бұрын
Don't be ridiculous, are you from the US?
@mikee6114
@mikee6114 3 ай бұрын
Nice idea. Good video, thanks!
@decimal1815
@decimal1815 4 ай бұрын
Chargers connected to lamp posts probably make more sense in most towns and cities so people can book a charger and fill up overnight. Any day now we'll get some intelligent planning of EV infrastructure..
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
Lamppost chargers seem like a great solution. I'll try to cover that in another episode actually as I've yet to use one. Not much good in my road though as we have no lampposts!
@Jaw0lf
@Jaw0lf 4 ай бұрын
An interesting idea, insurance and tax do spring to mind, iunless something is covered by the app.
@murph10375
@murph10375 4 ай бұрын
Doing the maths. 7.4KWh for an hours charge at the South East day rate equates to £2.31 of energy. Is 69p of profit worth the worry of someone damaging equipment, increasing the risk of damage to other personal property and that 69p doesn’t take into account the cost of PayPal?
@tinglestingles
@tinglestingles 4 ай бұрын
less tax too and the cost of the app after the first year.
@murph10375
@murph10375 4 ай бұрын
@@tinglestingles Just doesn’t add up.
@lifeisstillhell
@lifeisstillhell 3 ай бұрын
I think you're all missing the point, it's about doing something good and saving the other party from being fleeced by Instavolt and the like
@Jimages_uk
@Jimages_uk 4 ай бұрын
Can you set the charge prices at different rates for different times?
@Peoplestariff
@Peoplestariff 3 ай бұрын
Watching now :)
@Asunisland
@Asunisland 4 ай бұрын
A great Idea. The usual BUT is where i live in Stockport the few people who do register their EV home chargers ask for more money than the price of going to a public charger. Some as high as 70 or 80p a KWh. I just wish it could work.
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
Crazy! I bet they wonder why no-one uses it.
@matthewmason8982
@matthewmason8982 4 ай бұрын
I like the idea, but my mind always skips to how people might abuse it. How would the app deal with someone overstaying their welcome?
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
I suppose much comes down to trust. You’d rate that user poorly if they did that. Also, for anyone that can remotely control their charger, you can switch it off when they’ve finished their session.
@timothybloomer8287
@timothybloomer8287 Ай бұрын
Seeing some serious investment in EV chargers at various M6 services nowadays. Not before time! Also some better rates for the electricity around 65p/kwh now (but still 85p in some other places).
@AliWade1971
@AliWade1971 4 ай бұрын
Signed up, as could be useful with my current car (Smart ForTwo EQ with tiny battery 😀). Once we move to a more populated area, we will add our charger. Ps. I hope that Baby Dog was meant to be walking in the flood water and you weren’t told off for not carrying her 😂
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t get told off, thankfully! Baby needed a little wash anyway. 😀
@phlomisjason
@phlomisjason 4 ай бұрын
How does JoosUp cope with charger locking? As far as I understood, anyone who has access to my charger can simply plug in and charge at my expense? If the app communicates with the charger and unlocks it to allow access/charging (and logs usage), then fine, but otherwise, this is a bit flawed as a concept, or at least open to abuse, no?
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
Most chargers now have an app so as a host you could just make sure it’s “off” until the person is due to arrive.
@johngordon9987
@johngordon9987 4 ай бұрын
It is crying out for a standardized API (or a broker who can handle API translations) that allows services like this to enable and disable the charger remotely, as well as potentially monitor it to make sure it is delivering power and even notify the vehicle owner if the charging stops or completes earlier than they expected. No doubt, we will get there one day as many of these devices are already internet connected.
@phlomisjason
@phlomisjason 4 ай бұрын
@@MrEV True, my Zappi does, but that all seems a bit 'manual' - hopefully will get easier!
@roundcrisis3562
@roundcrisis3562 4 ай бұрын
Great idea and nice app, sadly not a lot of chargers (at least where I am ) yet but hopefully more soon
@JTan74
@JTan74 4 ай бұрын
Was that Strawberry the Chicken in the background? 😁 This is a good idea. A nice income on the side for people with home chargers.
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
I think it was one of the other chickens in the background actually! I’ll feature them all soon.
@mikehedrick6544
@mikehedrick6544 4 ай бұрын
Welcome Chap, come on in and we’ll have a cup of tea while you wait. It shouldn’t be too long for your charge, but possibly 2 to 4 hours.
@Odinscrow1962
@Odinscrow1962 4 ай бұрын
Good idea - my charger is being fitted on 10th April. Car in 5 - 7 months. Food for thought
@sirenbrian
@sirenbrian 4 ай бұрын
What a great idea!
@1967dragonaxe
@1967dragonaxe 4 ай бұрын
Will definately give juice up a go. I’ve had Cocharger for 2 years and only 1 person rented it!
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
I’ve heard the same from others. These things will be great if more people know about them!
@martinswitzer6534
@martinswitzer6534 4 ай бұрын
If they had a map showing the chargers on their website it might convince me to sign up. I won't download yet another app without that information.
@roderickmain9697
@roderickmain9697 4 ай бұрын
Neat idea.
@MrDAVIDATKIN
@MrDAVIDATKIN 4 ай бұрын
Looks a good idea for someone looking to charge but seems a lot of hassle and minimal return for the charger owner (less than a pound an hour return on your money at say 40p kWh). Of course if you have excess solar and flog it for 40p kWh I can see the attraction.
@lookoutleo
@lookoutleo 3 ай бұрын
Is their a map and prices for juiceup ? Before i install
@Hornetville
@Hornetville 4 ай бұрын
registered already a few days ago hayho :( also got my ticket from them for Everything Electric will be there Thursday :)
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
See you there!
@edspace_66
@edspace_66 4 ай бұрын
It's a nice idea Andrew. I'd like to try this out and book your driveway for next Wednesday at 11am. I won't use the App - cut out the middleman. How much do you charge? Can I feed the chickens while I'm there?
@jp6975
@jp6975 4 ай бұрын
Did you mean "feed on the chickens"? 🤣
@edspace_66
@edspace_66 4 ай бұрын
​@@jp6975 Depends how long it takes to charge up.
@mdshovel
@mdshovel 4 ай бұрын
see you there - we could start a coffee stand 😁
@theta2170
@theta2170 4 ай бұрын
What stops someone from just using the charger without activating the session, as clearly the charger must be in an unlocked mode.
@mrv8rick2
@mrv8rick2 2 ай бұрын
Great idea thanks. just downloaded and looks like none near me, Found some wanting £11 /hr lol
@MrEV
@MrEV 2 ай бұрын
That’s crazy! They’ll probably complain no-one ever uses it!
@jrgenkuhlmann8630
@jrgenkuhlmann8630 4 ай бұрын
Have you given up on uploading Italian roadtrip part 2?
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
It should be the next video.🤞
@SalisburyKing
@SalisburyKing 4 ай бұрын
What happens if people don't return to their car by the end of the session and continue charging on your electric. How is the charger connected to the app?
@alistairlambert3275
@alistairlambert3275 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Andrew. I've signed up and used your code. Do you know how this works (or doesn't) if you are on the Octopus Intellegent tariff.
@Youtubedotcomma
@Youtubedotcomma 4 ай бұрын
So does juice up have control of your charger or can someone just rock up using the app as they know where the charger is and plug-in without paying?
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
Joosup doesn't control the charger, so yes, in theory someone could plug-in and steal electrons - although most chargers have apps now so I imagine many hosts would turn off their charger in the app before someone's due to come.
@salan3
@salan3 2 ай бұрын
Can all home chargers use this? Not got yet (EV not arrived yet and new to EV) but getting an OHME plus. AS low usage it would make sense to pos rent out but can it? I thought it was locked to your car,
@MrEV
@MrEV 2 ай бұрын
Chargers aren’t locked to the EV.
@wedmoreblue
@wedmoreblue 4 ай бұрын
I like this idea but I’d love to hear Flaviana’s opinion … she is so good at saying as she sees things, good or bad.
@ThePolishedapple
@ThePolishedapple 3 ай бұрын
@MrEV can you please do a video on Octopus Energy and how the EV charging tariffs work? My parents have a Model Y and I can't understand how they would benefit? How does Octopus know they have a Tesla and can they get cheap EV charging without paying a fortune the rest of the day.
@MrEV
@MrEV 3 ай бұрын
It's definitely on my list! If your parents were to switch to Intelligent Octopus Go, they could either connect their charger (if it's Zappi/Wallbox/something else I can't remember), or they can connect their car. In the case of Tesla, this is one of the cars that works very well with it. If they plug in during the day, provided energy is cheap enough (windy/sunny days are great), it'll start charging at the cheap rate. The great thing is that the whole house benefits from the same cheap rate. But yes, I'll try to explain better in a video!
@grahamleiper1538
@grahamleiper1538 4 ай бұрын
Local 22kW is cheaper (30p/kWh) than I'd want to beat but I could see it being useful when visiting relatives who don't have chargers.
@MrBinabanana
@MrBinabanana 4 ай бұрын
It's a great idea, however I can see some areas of law which would need clarifying. If you're charging a fee, I imagine you'd need to declare it as taxable income? And would it need public liability insurance and planning permission because of essentially running a business at a private residence? The last thing you'd want is somebody tripping over a paving slab on your drive and trying to claim. That's the litigious country (world) we live in!
@AlanTov
@AlanTov 4 ай бұрын
Zapmap have been running something similar for 3 years.
@jeremyfk
@jeremyfk 4 ай бұрын
This was my point. By providing a service and charging for it you essentially become a forecourt operator. While here in Ireland, earning below a certain threshold isn't taxable, you would still need to declare that your home is a business and have public liability insurance. Ordinary home insurance wouldn't cover you. We've all seen the menace of Jaguars randomly running amok, imagine one driving through the front of your house!(joking or course)😜😜😜 AirBnB I think provide cover to hosts in case the homes get damaged by renters so maybe something similar could work here?
@mdshovel
@mdshovel 4 ай бұрын
Interesting process. Just as a bit of info - I pay 0.47 at Ionity with my Volvo card at 150Kw
@jasonsaddington7821
@jasonsaddington7821 4 ай бұрын
Just a bit of info 0.47 that's £3.20 an hour on a 7Kw charger .
@rodneilson5831
@rodneilson5831 4 ай бұрын
That’s a good idea Andrew thanks for that.😉
@TheChargeShow
@TheChargeShow 4 ай бұрын
I saw you eying up the Ioniq 5 N line today Andrew. I was going to say hello. Let us know if you buy one :)
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
I wish you’d said hello! The N is lovely but a bit ‘loud’ for me I think. If I have a mid-life crisis, maybe!
@petertwiss4215
@petertwiss4215 4 ай бұрын
Could not sign-up. App keeps telling me that the password does not meet the minimum requirements even when it clearly does.
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
I’ve passed that onto the Joosup creator to get it sorted. Thanks for the feedback.
@malcolmfowler8972
@malcolmfowler8972 4 ай бұрын
@@MrEV I also had the same problem. Tried to register on the app but unable to get past the 'password does not meet the minimum requirements' message, even when it did!
@IDann1
@IDann1 4 ай бұрын
Nice idea, but I just downloaded the app, and only 1 charger in my city..and 2.5x more expensive than alternatives locally 😮
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
I wonder whether they’re factoring in parking costs as well?! 😀 Very silly of them. They’re probably wondering why no one wants to charge there!
@trumptypumpty
@trumptypumpty 4 ай бұрын
Good idea, sadly nobody is signed up in my neck of the woods, I can't install a charger due to being housing association rented despite having an off road parking space next to my garden wall. Luckily I don't need my car everyday. Looking at those people with chargers who are signed up it seems the cheapest is around 40p per kWh (dependent on if the charger does deliver at the specified rate?), it's not super cheap but just ok.
@blobbyrob
@blobbyrob 4 ай бұрын
I'm also housing association renting. They were perfectly happy to allow me to have a charger installed at the property. Obviously all installed professionally by a recognised company.
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
Peak rate is about 30p for most, so 40p is pretty fair I think. I’m surprised you’re not allowed to get a charger installed though. It’d boost the property value a bit after all?!
@trumptypumpty
@trumptypumpty 4 ай бұрын
@@blobbyrob Yes, it was quite a surprise when they said no to my application for permission. Like I say I'm lucky I don't need the car everyday, so I can manage with granny charging most of the time. Our cheapest fast chargers here are 25p per kWh which is great but a long way from me (no facilities to use over a couple of hours while waiting!).
@thomasneely2700
@thomasneely2700 4 ай бұрын
What happens when your EV. charger gets broken, and even you can’t charge cheaply
@decimal1815
@decimal1815 4 ай бұрын
Given that these are 7kW chargers, it would probably make sense to charge overnight. But for periods where you're away from home, it could be perfect so long as you trust your neighbours!
@peteglass3496
@peteglass3496 4 ай бұрын
Andrew, at the beginning 0:36 you quoted 56% do have own driveways in the UK - could you quote the source of that data point?? I took on Colin Walker after the panel on Thursday at The Everything Electric Show who used 70% as the figure. I'm certain this is too high and usually hear numbers like 60%. Yours was lower than I normally hear so it pricked my interest. 7yrs with an EV and no drive, I have an interest in campaigning on this issue!! 😉 There's another interesting figure - 75% of van drivers don't have driveways, this is an important impediment to address.
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
I've heard many numbers but I thought I'd go for the lowest! I got it from this "glass-is-half-empty" Lloyds Bank article. www.lloydsbankinggroup.com/media/press-releases/2022/lloyds-bank/nearly-half-of-uk-homes-unsuitable-for-electric-cars.html
@peteglass3496
@peteglass3496 3 ай бұрын
@@MrEVthanks, sorry to be slow to acknowledge. 🙂👍 Possibly not a primary source, but the FUD has become so serious I'm beginning to want highest quality data to counter it.
@kennethhandin5506
@kennethhandin5506 4 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. You have a very nice sense of humor. This one was informative. Wonder if this is available in the States?
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! This app isn’t, but perhaps US-specific ones exist?
@philhartley7564
@philhartley7564 4 ай бұрын
My charger is where I would park my car normally, so I don't see the financial benefits outweigh the inconvenience of having to park my car on the street while someone comes and charges.
@user-bq3rv3mt4l
@user-bq3rv3mt4l 4 ай бұрын
And what is to stop them leaving there car all day !!
@michaelgoode9555
@michaelgoode9555 4 ай бұрын
The charger owner can turn the charger off remotely.
@ziggarillo
@ziggarillo 4 ай бұрын
Living in the middle of South Essex this doesn't work. Tesco charge poin5ts are far outnumber these.
@rongalbraith5005
@rongalbraith5005 4 ай бұрын
I think this is a good idea, but EVM did a video on this topic a while ago, and a drawback was potentially voiding your chargers warranty. I'm not saying people shouldn't do this, but just be mindful of any drawbacks before renting out your charger.
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
That’s interesting. I didn’t see that, but yes - certainly something worth thinking about, although I’d not worry too much personally as chargers tend to be pretty solid!
@MrMannakin
@MrMannakin 4 ай бұрын
Not sure its a great idea - max speed on most home chargers is 7kw per hour - i don't want someone blocking my drive for 6 hrs to get a 80% charge!
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
Many hosts might restrict the booking time for that reason.
@bordersw1239
@bordersw1239 4 ай бұрын
Good way of telling strangers that you aren’t home. Not sure how that driveway would stand up to 2.7 tonnes of e-tron parking. Sorry to put a downer on it.
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
It depends on the person’s circumstances, but there are people that can probably park in the road when someone uses their driveway. (That’d be the case for me anyway) So the person may still be at home. The host I charged at was at home actually. As for heavy vehicles, we have block paving and a caravan, countless trucks and vans, and it’s absolutely fine. But obviously if someone’s concerned about that, best not to share their charger!
@johngowers8045
@johngowers8045 4 ай бұрын
My charger in the garage this is to stop people Turning up plug it in What to stop me come to yours and geting a free charge And yes people would theres a car park £2 a hr I seen people park in our private road and walk to town
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
Maybe I have a little more faith in people! I don’t think many people would be brazen enough to park on someone’s private driveway and charge. In my case, I have a security camera which would make it even less likely.
@lifeisstillhell
@lifeisstillhell 3 ай бұрын
I see you haven't signed up Andrew or have you closed your account!!
@MrEV
@MrEV 3 ай бұрын
I would have as I love the concept, I only haven’t because it would give away my address and I’m a bit nervous about that!
@luindarkgom
@luindarkgom 4 ай бұрын
Andrew, your recent content seems to be just sponsored adverts. Hopefully you'll be back to more entertaining and informative videos soon.
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
The Wallbox one was sponsored but others haven’t been. But yes, the next few videos will all be car-related, mainly with the family.
@luindarkgom
@luindarkgom 4 ай бұрын
@@MrEV Apologies for over estimating the number of sponsored/adverts, keep up the good work, I always enjoy your videos. I had assumed that this was as there are other older charger sharing apps around such as Co-charger and also that the Infrared panel and EcoFlow were sponsored.
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
@@luindarkgom No problem. It's a really tricky line to tread as moving from KZbin being a hobby to a profession does require sponsorship, really, but I don't want to lose my independence. The infrared panel was a review unit sent to me for free but they had no editorial control (I think the review would have been more glowing otherwise!) Ecoflow also had no editorial control, but they did ask for some hashtags, so I marked that video as sponsored for that reason. The trick is probably to do with Jonny Smith's done. He's got sponsorship from tyre company, blackcircles.com, so he doesn't have to worry about dissing their product and upsetting the sponsor!
@t5jerry
@t5jerry 4 ай бұрын
The whole concept of EV's really isn't delivering all that was promised or expected and therefore should be reviewed. I have never found a use case for an EV on cost or range grounds and stuck with Diesel and frankly glad I did. There are some key problems that I would need to be solved in order to go down that route, and most of the points made here cover them. Range, practicality, maintenance, charging infrastructure, stability of fuel costs and resale market (a viable 2nd hand market to prevent new cars losing all their value, and secondly to ensure those that cannot afford a new car still have access to personal road transport) are the essential elements before I would even consider changing. Also, I like the sound of V6's and V8's and hate the humming sound of EV's, but that is secondary! 🙂
@laloajuria4678
@laloajuria4678 4 ай бұрын
super dumb. here in america you get shot just for making a wrong turn on a driveway. no way.
@klikar1982
@klikar1982 4 ай бұрын
We in Europe do not shoot at people, just because they are at private place. Different mentality.
@ziggarillo
@ziggarillo 4 ай бұрын
Yes, you're definitely super dumb in America. Just surviving a stop at a gas station is a tactical manoeuvre.
@Jaw0lf
@Jaw0lf 4 ай бұрын
That doesn't sound like the land of the free to me. In the UK we are free to live and don't get shot if we make a mistake!
@michaelgoode9555
@michaelgoode9555 4 ай бұрын
Yup, I agree. Americans are super dumb. Well, almost half of them judging by voting returns ...
@jp6975
@jp6975 4 ай бұрын
Shouldn't the reply have been to "super dumb. here in america you get shot for "
@AndrewEbling
@AndrewEbling 4 ай бұрын
Giving it a try. App is super buggy. I wouldn’t pay a subscription for this.
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
That's interesting. I didn't have any issues when I used it. Please do contact Joosup and let them know as they'd appreciate the feedback.
@AndrewEbling
@AndrewEbling 3 ай бұрын
@@MrEV been taking a more in-depth look this morning. Have sent some feedback, but I'm too worried about lack of liability insurance and putting my charge point on a publicly visible map to become a host (charge cable theft or electricity theft). Had a look to see if there are any chargers in the area where I'm going on holiday in the summer, but nothing in a 200 mile radius. Appreciate it's a bit chicken-and-egg but I think they need to solve the insurance/liability and privacy issues for this to get sufficient momentum to be useful.
@jeffreycooper8408
@jeffreycooper8408 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't normally write something like I'm about to - but apparently the YT algorithm likes comments, so MREV won't mind hopefully; but one really big issue comes to mind - whats to stop someone looking on this app, and then coming and parking on your drive, and charging for free - and there's nothing you can do about it - it's almost asking for some nasty bit of work to come and leave their range rover on your drive while they go on their holidays ?
@johngordon9987
@johngordon9987 4 ай бұрын
You can turn off your charger (usually remotely via its app), and then call to have them towed from your property since they are parking there illegally. Having a camera watching it and a notification for when it starts delivering power to a car are obviously essential. The camera recording the session is probably essential anyway in case of damage claims etc.
@gavjlewis
@gavjlewis 4 ай бұрын
Well Google maps already exists so they can see if you have a charger or even a driveway. The app doesn't change that. There are already apps where you can rent your drive if you live near an airport.
@PhilippeDHooghe
@PhilippeDHooghe 4 ай бұрын
At this point in time, the only use case for EVs that *_really_* makes sense is the city. Range is not an issue. Emissions and noise are reduced. Power consumption is a lot lower than ICE. But in the cities people live in row houses, many without garage or driveway, and apartments. Apartment blocks may have garages or parking spaces with chargers, these are probably the best off. But all these other potential EV users are faced with expensive charging. I'm in Belgium and elsewhere you saw we can legally share our charger for a tax credit. But that does not provide the solution for the big problem here. Our public space and legislation fit ICE cars and that is logical. EVs don't fit there, like a square peg in a round hole. Legislation and the way we arrange public space need to change. An app is not going to resolve this. So you are very right, Andy.
@t5jerry
@t5jerry 4 ай бұрын
why do you keep avoiding the HUGE drop in e.v sales in your vids. ..........????????
@simonpaine2347
@simonpaine2347 4 ай бұрын
Why are you on such a downer all the time? Negativity is really bad for your health. Why does it matter to you if sales of EV'S is up down or indifferent? Does it effect you personally, or do you just disagree with people choosing what kind of car they want?
@simonpaine2347
@simonpaine2347 4 ай бұрын
Why does he need to address the issue? Even if it's true? EV sales have slowed, but so have sales of ALL types of cars. It's a cost of living crisis, not an EV crisis.
@t5jerry
@t5jerry 4 ай бұрын
@@simonpaine2347 don`t be a pain simon, they haven`t slowed , theyr`e GLACIAL, AND the reason he needs to "address the issue" is simples, this programme encourages the purchase of electric vehicles, yes or no? people at this point of time should be WARNED OFF these vehicles unless they have money to burn....................
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
Because it’s not an issue. Private sales have dipped, but used EV sales are increasing, as are fleets. As I’ve commented to you before, let’s see how it goes over the next few months before declaring the sky is falling!
@t5jerry
@t5jerry 4 ай бұрын
@@MrEV the moon`s getting BIGGER every day andrew......................
@jp6975
@jp6975 4 ай бұрын
There was already an app like this - can't remember the name. I looked into it and then removed it. All sorts of issues with this. Damage to your property/vehicle(s), damage to the "customer" vehicle, injury to the "customer". Unless the app/provider will give absolute cover for all these then it's a no-go. Also, what about tax? It's likely to be income that has to be declared is it not? If tax/NI is levied, and and you have to fork out for all the insurances, then the rate charged to the "customer" would make it non-viable. - after all, you're going to pass this on to the "customer". All very well apps providing access/methods for people to charge - but they never look at the risks they are placing the charge point owners under for their gain. With this model, the "customer" wins, the app provider wins. The charge point owner loses.
@wibblywotsits
@wibblywotsits 4 ай бұрын
Sounds alot like PlugShare to me - I looked at it a bunch ago, and it had the ability to list personal chargers on it - which you could even label as 'private' or something. I really didn't understand that concept, and since I got a Tesla anyway*, it really was more trouble than it was worth. * I was trying to buy an Ioniq 5 at the time and doing my diligence on charging options.
@jp6975
@jp6975 4 ай бұрын
@@wibblywotsits Actually, I found it. It was called Co Charger.
@ianrob4760
@ianrob4760 4 ай бұрын
I have signed up to Zap map and will look at this one. and of course we can make a bit of cash without ripping people off
@vincelemon6343
@vincelemon6343 4 ай бұрын
This is nothing new as zapMap have had an option to do exactly this for a while. joosup is a little late to the party i feel.
@MesoScale
@MesoScale 4 ай бұрын
I did something like this in a rural area where the only charger available was exactly one like this at a restaurant. They charged 85c per kWh. I think during my charging session I saw the owner cleaning his nose with a 100€ bill, but could have been my imagination... I just needed to top up a bit anyway, so it was okay.
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
That’s extortionate! I suppose someone desperate might use it.
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