I’m elderly enough to remember when Android 18 was the original “step on me” character
@williamflores79902 жыл бұрын
Still is if you have any taste
@leviknight97152 жыл бұрын
same
@Its_Casual_2 жыл бұрын
She's always got it like that
@aidmaster835 Жыл бұрын
@@Its_Casual_ ong (I'm in Alabama rn)
@QJACS10 ай бұрын
Still is for me
@pablomiranda163926 күн бұрын
I don't know when was the last time I left a comment on KZbin, but I will do it now to say that this is EXACTLY how a guide for a character should be. CONGRATULATIONS
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty2 жыл бұрын
18 is probably the best character to have DBZA call backs to and I love this video already for it.
@munico60559 ай бұрын
I barely started learning fighterz today and I wanted to main 18. I’ve watched a beginner guide on bread n butter combos and the basics, moving onto an 18 specific guide and I’m already infinitely better than when I started. This is the first time I’ve actually learned to play a fighting game and it feels great seeing I’m not a complete beginner anymore
@BlueBamboo97 ай бұрын
I know I'm 2 months too late, but I'm in the same boat! Albeit I'm not good just yet, aha. You should watch a vid from Mister Acolyte about Neutral if you got the time. Seeing as you barely started back then, maybe it'll help? It definitely helped me a lot, aha. I know, with what 18 is capable of, it'll help make getting into the mix easier too. Just trying to help out a fellow newcomer!! I hope you're getting a bunch of wins, man:)
@honkmandeluxe3 ай бұрын
Hope you stick with it
@RsingVortex2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro I genuinely wanted to play 18 and ur combo videos are honestly so good 😩
@Smilesrck2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah thanks man Im pretty bad at the game but your diagrams and vids really help alot in getting the character down to where I dont get stomped
@JustinAtLaw2 жыл бұрын
Good video! Something I was hoping to see was options using 214H Oki if the opponent chooses to reflect. There doesn't seem to be safe options that just aren't hard callouts.
@AmericanxLegendz2 жыл бұрын
DR is your best bet (ik from experience)
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
@@AmericanxLegendz Grabs and DR work, but they also generally have to immediately reflect so the barrier call instead works fine. Reflect is always a mindgame and hard read.
@xeas10962 жыл бұрын
Also, you can call a assist in addition to the Ex 17, or you can do a anti reflect string as well
@Joker_20002 жыл бұрын
yesterday i was like "im gonna learn android 18" and i checked your channel for a guide but there was no android 18 guide and not 24 hours later there is the guide lol
@elkronegamer2 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I will enjoy this hell yeah thanks Mr.TinyTorgue
@mmmghool2 жыл бұрын
that pic at the beginning is a godsend for a new player, thank you
@dgrmelo64242 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this good video as always is going to help me to learn to play 18
@cavaleiroigris4632 жыл бұрын
A good tip: U can hide DR in air and reset combos with A17 barrier.
@xiomaku56722 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by reset combos?
@cavaleiroigris4632 жыл бұрын
@@xiomaku5672 In the corner instead of hitting the person with last hit (L,L,L) use ki blast and barrier (L,L,5S,214S,DR). Hope you understand.
@xiomaku56722 жыл бұрын
@@cavaleiroigris463 oh so its just them up teching into a dr for a free reset pretty noice lol
@deathcrow61322 жыл бұрын
Love ur vids man they really help.
@Ryuzeta7774 ай бұрын
2:35 godlike edition
@zerimas_2 жыл бұрын
the persona all out attack level 3 was sooo sick
@r0000g2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if it has been asked and answered before but, what do you use to make your vids? I find them extremely well made, easy to follow and excellently explained. It's kinda sad that whenever I watch guides for other games it's just a replay of them in training mode with no explanation whatsoever, or explained but in a way that seems made up at the moment. I would like to see a "TinyTorgue guide to making guides".
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
I use Premiere Pro and Photoshop when it's needed, as for the explanation part I just have a good feeling of what people need in DBFZ. I've seen several of my friends go through the beginning steps, but it really helps that FighterZ is so nicely streamlined and clear.
@kabirfgc Жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue Goat!
@morcowbell19982 жыл бұрын
Ooo new content, love to see it
@Thief0052 жыл бұрын
“ I forgot the beef” Krillin’s famous last words
@willchalloner66432 жыл бұрын
17:17 true that, had to relearn all my Videl loops
@Delfio212 жыл бұрын
Finalmente 😭💚💚🔥
@Eh_O_Nico2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I missed you torgue!
@tht1blackguy2092 жыл бұрын
Finna leave this here to appreciate the thumbnail
@gotmefkedup11812 жыл бұрын
I just picked a18, yamcha and hit bc of the patch and the goat uploads a18 video finally get to learn her
@Filthy_Uchiha11 ай бұрын
I am daily convinced that 17 is just a stand and 18 is a stand user
@chelsymcclinton87992 жыл бұрын
0:19 OD intro😏
@Roboardo2 жыл бұрын
Of course for the ToD section you use the other Hot Blonde Mix Machine's theme
@Carlos-uj7mq2 жыл бұрын
Might have to pick 18 up just for the thumbnail 😏😏
@yaks3044 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video🎉
@tresbienjevois70132 жыл бұрын
Really good, thank you
@theimprovedbore5502 жыл бұрын
i swear i can never keep track of each character's ideal positions these day, i always thought 18 was good as a point
@cctz_12 жыл бұрын
She used to be pushed towards being point cuz ppl thought she was whack without assists, truth was she was always versatile in team placements
@bafana_mhlamvu2 жыл бұрын
She's been my anchor ever since I picked up the game...
@ryanfauxbia2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any tips for how to learn delay on combos for the loops? Is there a knack to how to practice that or is it just keep trying until you get a feel for it? I have managed a couple of times but I feel like it's not consistent and I've been at it for like 2 hours haha. Probably a stupid question but just thought I'd ask in case I'm wasting time by missing something to help
@TaroMikami2 жыл бұрын
6:09 thank you that made my day
@lukecrowley80122 жыл бұрын
Love the content
@forthesubs53572 жыл бұрын
All they needed to do is Buff her grabs range, Fix her j2h to normal, and less recovery on her 17 calls so she can solo confirm without vanish.... Mix is cool until everyone is mashing full screen buttons and you cant close the gap solo.... why is her B assist below average on block stun, would that break her to make it normal?? or her ex 17 to track? that would make her too strong huh bc thatd be too cheap for a full bar on #18? Why cant 17 deflect ki blasts like the ginyu calls? whats the real point of her distructo disk blast ? This character is strong but too much work when other characters do the same yet they risk less and benefit more? what gives? Great Video tho!!!! hopefully more people pick her up and she gets to be where he belongs S rank not broken but top tier forsure
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
The grabs are fine, the Light version is literally unreactable and the other two have enough range. Speed up j2H I agree with. The recovery decrease on 17 could have insane consequences for her mix, we don't want that. If you're playing 18 solo you fucked up. B assist isn't too bad, it could use a small buff though. EX 17 tracks already except on self activation, which is entirely unneccessary. I'm not sure about 17 deflecting Ki Blasts, but it's not like that buff will actually help her. You're not calling 17 in neutral most of the time, except for 214S which spawns behind her anyways. If by disc blast you mean the little explosion that happens when it hits the floor, I saw that there is a way to curve it in a way where you can actually frametrap 2H with a full screen SD after 236S. Otherwise no reason to worry about it. She's rather easy to pick up actually, but you need really good universal movement to get the most out of her.
@darkhaven91192 жыл бұрын
Her b assist should of been buffed to 30f and I like the other changes you mentioned
@phattphish21982 жыл бұрын
"Yes Krillin, it is a problem that you forgot to buy the beef"
@JustSaiyan692 жыл бұрын
Awesome, is the guide gonna be post 1.31? If so are you gonna go back to other characters to update them for the patch?
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I specifically held this back so I could make sure it's up to date. This has her new loops as well as what to delay for the old ones. And yeah there will be updates
@JustSaiyan692 жыл бұрын
Great, thank you for your hard work, your guidea have really helped me develop as a player
@ICA_Ghost Жыл бұрын
her best oki is actually jump back medium 17 call. beats every ground tech.
@gregb9404 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@hellobabaqena2 жыл бұрын
I'm been playing nappa for a while , I figure some combos myself but don't know if they are good🤣🤣 Since I started to watch your guides I don't watch anyone's guides anymore lol
@hellobabaqena2 жыл бұрын
I'm a patient man I will wait for it😉
@xoiyoub2 жыл бұрын
MBTL's music is so perfect for her
@AyyOtakuu2 жыл бұрын
still praying for the day id see a nappa one from you. as a nappa main i rckn i'd still be able to learn alot cause your videos are the best.
@vonskieee9493 Жыл бұрын
Her loop at 17:16 i can hit all 3 but im having a problem connecting the final 5L before the key blast... is the 4th one the same or do you have to delay or?
@morericegaming2 жыл бұрын
Finalllyyyyyyy😭❤️
@morericegaming2 жыл бұрын
I am now ready for the true blue slug fest of rank with my main🥴
@VVeriguy2 жыл бұрын
finally yes
@KuraSourTakanHour Жыл бұрын
4:27 Still need to learn to connect 2m with this. Whenever I try 2m it whiffs, do you have to do some dash timing?
@TinyTorgue Жыл бұрын
The more you delay the 17 call the more time you have to connect the 2M. I do a dash 2M, but it may not even be required
@robot68952 жыл бұрын
do u have to angle the discs down in the loops or can they just go straight? I always have the first two parts of the loop down but when I get to the third one it drops
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to angle them down but it doesn't hurt either. The new loops can get a bit annoying to get the full last loop on thin bodies from what I've tried, you'll just have to practice or adjust the combo to your liking
@chelsymcclinton87992 жыл бұрын
2:43 Poor buddy 😔
@DezzFreeman2 жыл бұрын
7:36 Bruhhh too sooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooOooOooooooOOooNnnnn
@notsonoble62112 жыл бұрын
For the non smash loops, I can't land the 5l consistently on the third loop. I was wondering if you were tilting the disc or if I should put a delay on the start of a new loop.
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
the third loop is just a bitch on some characters, i can get them fairly consistently on GT Goku but the third loop is harder on trunks for some reason? im not aiming the discs down im just focusing on getting enough delay on 5S.
@notsonoble62112 жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue I'm hitting it more with the focus on delay, great vid btw. Lowkey bless us with the adult gohan vid :)
@emangtvee2 жыл бұрын
Great video :) A16 Guide when tho?
@Y20XTongvaLand Жыл бұрын
3:16 for 16.
@kaled200012 жыл бұрын
7:36 I was so upset they nerfed A21s level 3, look I'm not a sweaty fight to win junkie, but when I have played the same character(literally never got out of my team, ever) 4 years in a row it's just maddening that my muscle memory fucks me up cause she went from having a top tier level 3 super to a bottom one, probably the worst in the game, fuck me dead.
@finnscream Жыл бұрын
i cant get the height right at 17:03 for the corner combo any tips for this?
@renren476182 жыл бұрын
I dropped 18 because she's too hard to play, but i will still watch it
@robot68952 жыл бұрын
she's worth it
@zyrohfied32942 жыл бұрын
Finally
@Micha-Hil2 жыл бұрын
I think what would be good is for you to have a general playstyle description before going over a character's normals This way, if someone doesn't "fw" the character, they don't have to watch that far into the video
@zero123alpha62 жыл бұрын
Dustloop exists exactly for that
@itzhamison15912 жыл бұрын
16:57 has this been changed at all or am I just bad. If I try to do the blasts it either does a js or by the time I hit the ground they've already fallen out
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
All these combos are current patch. If they're dropping out you just gotta go faster.
@erickramongeegga2762 жыл бұрын
When is the Piccolo guide coming out? ;-;
@mdudegamer2 жыл бұрын
I like to think Goku and Beerus were helping out in that first ToD because the beef Krillin forgot to buy was for a hot pot party or something.
@giovanniscookingshow95432 жыл бұрын
whens fat buu guide coming i’ve been playing him for a while now but i feel like i’m lacking his mix up potential
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
Play Nappa and never look back
@giovanniscookingshow95432 жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue lmao i’ve thought of playing nappa but this new patch didn’t really give him much
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
@@giovanniscookingshow9543 Buu didnt get anything important either and Nappa has better damage AND mix, playing Buu is just pain
@giovanniscookingshow95432 жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue it really is a pain because i play on xbox and nobody with actual skill plays on it so i can never do his sick mix because everyone’s always mashing with these broken auto combos
@Oateil2 жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue Nappa guide on the way?
@smajin282 жыл бұрын
Every time I try to jump after 2M5M, she short jumps. Using the PS4 dpad sucks and I don't know why it's short jumping with joystick. I've done so many 2M5M into a jump and now when I want to do any of these combos, I can't jump higher.
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
I dont know what you mean by short jump, there isnt a thing like that. You can superjump, but you dont have to for these combos. Make sure youre jumping towards the enemy, not just straight up otherwise you'll likely whiff buttons.
@MajinxDrolta Жыл бұрын
Okay so it’s not just me the ps4 Dpad does suck 😩 cause on ps5 there’s no issues
@fsasc71792 жыл бұрын
God loves you so much get too know him before it's too late ❤️
@darkhaven91192 жыл бұрын
Can you make a new adult Gohan and baby video pls? They have a lot of new combos and loops and Gohan has a bunch of new changes. Also Thankyou for this!
@manonthemoon48592 жыл бұрын
16:51
@aDexis72 жыл бұрын
i cant do any combos whit 2H jump cancel and dl SD rejumps. not used to the link speed, came from SFV, do u have any tips? i play on keyboard
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
The input buffer lets you input the forwards jump jL while j2H is making contact, its kind of hard to explain it once it becomes muscle memory. Rejumps are pretty optional, no worries about it
@aDexis72 жыл бұрын
thank you! ill keep trying
@aDexis72 жыл бұрын
finally doing jump cancels consistently. still cant rejump tho
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
@@aDexis7 rejumps come once youre deep into the game. Focus on more important stuff for now!
@DarnellU2 жыл бұрын
What does (dl) stand for in the combos?
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
Delay
@manonthemoon48592 жыл бұрын
15:48
@samyuerulagann74472 жыл бұрын
Question: which characters are best with A18 A assist? Would baby be one of them?
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
Everyone can generally make use of the barrier, Frieza has some nasty synergy with his discs + barrier assist if you want to lab that. Any lariat-type move or movement ability + barrier works well too.
@cameronzeferino69382 жыл бұрын
Who's next? Is there another poll?
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
GT Goku in a few days once Ive updated his video
@cameronzeferino69382 жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue A FEW DAYS!?! I thought there were months between these videos
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
@@cameronzeferino6938 I did both 18 and GT at the same time, they have been up on Patreon for a week or two since I was waiting to see if the patch required any major updates.
@cameronzeferino69382 жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue oh ok cool thank you
@smogogogp2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, yoi are on pc because your 18 dont have à jacket?
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
Yup, modding
@oscarcalidonio54842 жыл бұрын
I know how to use pretty good android 18 but I don know what characters match with her, at the moment I have android 18 (c), lab coat 21 (a) and android 17 (a) BTW I'm android lover 😅
@the_wild_kin7 ай бұрын
Is this the latest 18? Or did another patch hit
@BlueBamboo97 ай бұрын
I feel like the corner loops, the one after smash, isn't usable anymore. Mainly because after the 3rd disc, they fall out. It could be some REALLY strict timing, but idk. It's definitely not up to date, though. However, there is valuable info here still
@the_wild_kin7 ай бұрын
@BlueBamboo9 I did them they work but yeah hard to do
@BlueBamboo97 ай бұрын
@@the_wild_kin I was actually gonna get back on and edit my comment😅 I just did it, myself. Man, it felt impossible! My issues were the 5L after disc and the delay after 5h😭 Once I caught on that they were flipping out of it instead of teching out of it, I knew I needed to be a smidge faster. So yeah, that one works! Sorry for the premature mis-information, man😞
@Brandon-no5ut2 жыл бұрын
Can anybody give me tips on getting the combo at 4:22 cause I for the life of me cannot figure it out n I wanna be able to do it
@Brandon-no5ut2 жыл бұрын
4:27"
@Brandon-no5ut2 жыл бұрын
Got it!
@Clarkamadorian2 жыл бұрын
How do you resume I keep trying but my character doesn’t go down fast enough after a super dash
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
I assume that's meant to say rejump. The trick is to max delay the superdash. Apparently it helps if you use the Heavy button again to superdash after the first heavy. after the airdash jM you just need to buffer the dashjump input early enough, my FAQ video goes a bit more into detail on this
@Clarkamadorian2 жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue that was a super quick response, thanks
@manonthemoon48592 жыл бұрын
17:14
@TheSunZoo2 жыл бұрын
What do the input numbers translate to
@supergogetablue9887 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I dont play with 18 but i watch all your vidéo for counter. How to counter grab plz
@TinyTorgue Жыл бұрын
Medium grabs? React. Light grabs? Unreactable. Take risks or try to find some sort of pattern in your opponents pressure.
@supergogetablue9887 Жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue merci beaucoup ❤
@jibu02662 жыл бұрын
We need a cell guide father 🙏
@denisn83362 жыл бұрын
Why they gut 21 oki but 18 is a ok? Smh
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
Probably cause 21 has braindead neutral and a great assists on top of the Level 3 mix that gives her steals that empower her further.
@denisn83362 жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue 18s neutral is great too her being slightly harder is not a good excuse
@denisn83362 жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue for instance bardock and gt where arguably easier so we let 21 pass now she got a bit of popular she’s now just as bad? Very soon if we keep tho up we will call 18 busted. That’s not a good reason to nerf because what seems busted is opinionated the game is already homogenised to hell because everyone now especially fulfils the same roll. Them nerfing oki is a detriment.
@valentinvolcek60342 жыл бұрын
i'm new to the game, but why whenever I land 2H the enemy flies up? i can't connect jcLLL afterwards because the enemy is too far high, lol
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
You gotta double jump towards the enemy after the j2H, that's what the jc indicates
@valentinvolcek60342 жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue thanks buddy, gonna practice :P
@velothipriest75382 жыл бұрын
Wait... the TFS voices are edited or they finally did the mod?
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
Edited
@animadorbahiano8911 Жыл бұрын
O think the solo loop doesn't work anymore, kinda sad ngl.
@TinyTorgue Жыл бұрын
this is all still the same patch. it works fine.
@badrmukhtar8092 жыл бұрын
Man someone gotta make a video showing all of this man memes during the guide or at least time stamps
@alonsodelgado35382 жыл бұрын
I'm so Condusef how do you rejumps?
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
theyre a bit advanced. you need to delay your SD as much as it lets you, airdash jM and then buffer a dashjump jL input as you hit the ground after jM. It's not extremely important for just getting into it.
@limit-trinitybreak2153 Жыл бұрын
I want to run an android team (16 17 18) What the best assists to run
@TinyTorgue Жыл бұрын
B A B in that order probably
@famine75622 жыл бұрын
when yamcha ?
@dukesolos11882 жыл бұрын
When’s the gt Goku guide
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
in the process of replacing the old routes with the new ones right now, give it like 2 days max
@LSDaichi2 жыл бұрын
Please do janemba
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
Already made one
@LSDaichi2 жыл бұрын
@@TinyTorgue let's go i'll wait for it
@roonaxxiii2 жыл бұрын
Is it not possible to combo off 18 mGrab using a teammates otg? Eg 16, LC21, Broly dbs?
@homieyoshi18862 жыл бұрын
Ginyu Guide?
@justifydeo14332 жыл бұрын
I need a team synergy for 18 anyone got any
@Yanclaudio332 жыл бұрын
WE NEED DBS BROLY, please.
@TinyTorgue2 жыл бұрын
Already exists, still pretty relevant too. Hardly anything has changed for him.