Android head unit for SQ? ATOTO S8MS unboxing

[@jaistanley]

I have a much older android head unit I bought specifically as it has a volume controlled SPDIF output. I feed that to a MiniDSP Cx12. It sounds amazing! Well: I'm sure the jitter is poor and it's not a bit perfect stream (obviously as it's volume controled!), but it sounds great. I could leave the volume at 100% and use the DSP volume control if I was worried about bit-banging to reduce volume; but honestly in the car the convenience of using the steering controls for volume etc is worh more.

[@aceman5125]

I was waiting for this type of video... Sound Quality first... everything else just secondary.. I don't subscribe to many ...you you got mine with joy😎👍

[@anhnn2479]

RCA out it come with the pigtail cable (2Front, 2rear, 1center, 1sub) including to plug into one of those ports.

[@josephhammond2557]

I agree the cables are there

[@Mr.Thermistor7228]

Yea I knew it!! He keeps saying there is no rca out when he literally has them in his hand and in the other video he keeps saying no rca out there is

[@williamblackwell9558]

I have 2 FYT-based Spreadtrum uis7862(s) units with optical and coaxial outputs. The units I have are Joying but several other companies use Spreadtrum uis7862(s) units. Stinger, TEYES, ATOTO. The stinger units are the best I think. I use the optical out into a MINI DSP C-DSP 8x12 v2. I like the Mini DSP because of the Finite Impulse Response Filters. If Alpine put this unit out it would be $3000

[@Motymott99]

if you are willing to compromise on feaures and integration ,the best sound quality will be to hook up the phone directly to A dac that has optical output . like SMSL PO100

[@TheSFFV]

There are a number of devices but that PO100 or PO100 plus are great!

[@johnd5542]

They should have sent you the S8 ultra. I have one and I like it, although its a bit glitchy. The bluetooth streaming from phone wasnt great, but it takes a SIM card and wifi, which sounds great with optical to my ears. I compared it to different dacs and devices that I own and it sounded great. Its basically a tablet with internet, but you still have car stereo functions like reverse camera. I use a mini dsp, so I never played with the janky sound processing. Although it seemed better/more control then most car stereos. I had a Kenwood 1037s prior, which was great, but it stopped working after 7months, bricked and never turned back on. So I gave the s8 ultra a shot because of the optical and price.

[@RAW-CAt]

I did ask for an ultra or a pro. Maybe they will send that one later🙃

[@TheSFFV]

I tested a 9" and it did well out of the RCA's. No distortion even at max. I did measurement with a O-Scope. Mine was made by A-Sure

[@hotfuzz1913]

I have a teyes cc3 2k and love it. Sound quality is amazing, other than time alignment is pointless unless going passive. 2way/3way active requires an external dsp

[@TheSFFV]

As an added note you have to try a 24bit Clarion or a high end Alpine. The RCA's are on the top section that has all those plugs

[@Gershy13]

Ive got a Teyes CC3 and its awesome. Its basically the same as some other FYT based ones such as mekede or joying, just with locked down software (but i prefer the UI with teyes)

[@onesikm3]

regarding the older android os, i think its the same since its a full android unit. if you pay close attention to other marketed android carplay headunit, they are very limited access system and only give you access to download certain apps that are geared around those particular units, whereas the one in your hand is as you said a glorified tablet and thats alot more than what others offer

[@chriscuthbertson]

The right most white connector on the back is for the RCA pigtail.

[@RAW-CAt]

Really? That is not included in the kit and is "unused" in the manual. Maybe other variants have the same chassis and have RCAs?

[@2011joser]

I had been an Alpine head unit guy since the 80's but I gave up on them when I switched to Bluetooth streaming 7 years ago. At that point all but the most expensive hu's from all the brands were several generations of bluetooth standard behind flagship phones. My Pixel 8 Pro on a Proclip phone mount and my FiiO BTR5 provide better Sq into my system than most aftermarket or stock hu's.

[@bennyblanco14]

The ONLY 2 REASONS i went with atoto S8 pro was optical output, and i can watch Netflix on my HU... i dont have to deal with shitty rca, especially on the atoto. That's only 1v at best, so with the optical, i dont set gains or adjust input eq on my helix.dsp, and best of all, ONLY 1 WIRE from my hu to dsp

[@eduardobatista329]

Rightyoing is still number one because of a good screen and optical, many haveused it

[@antoniopdcj]

You mentioned RCA outputs and Optical output. I already know about the RCA outputs because they're very popular, but it's very rare that anyone mentions the "Optical" output. What are the advantages of using the Optical output? Is the Optical output better than the RCA output?

[@RAW-CAt]

Yes. Optical (or coax) output is a digital form of the signal. It's the same as your files are stored or you are streaming. Signal via RCAs goes through a DAC (digital to analogue converter) and the quality of the signal is being degraded every time such a conversion happens. And it depends on the quality of the DAC. Better quality DAC - higher price. Digital signal is the purest form of the source. The best way is to have digital signal going directly to your DSP. If you choose RCAs over optical, you are converting your digital signal to analogue in the head unit. Then analog signal is being converted to digital in the DSP, it is being processed and converted back to analogue again to feed into the amplifiers. That is two unnecessary conversions that are degrading the sound.

[@antoniopdcj]

Thank you for replying. I didn't know about the optical connection being better. In fact, I'm currently researching Audison's “Full DA” systems, and it seems that in these systems the entire audio path is optical.

[@xbmarc]

Aren't the rcas on a separate harness that plugs into the white plug? You can see them a little in the shot where you say they're not there

[@RAW-CAt]

This specific. Unit has loads of functionality for cameras and those RCAs are for video. There are AUX in RCAs as well, but nothing out.

[@Smokeey409]

I use the s8 pro , but only use the optical signal to my miniDSP

[@bbriankb1086]

Maybe the Bluetooth connection will be your best avenue to get a clean signal to the DSP

[@RAW-CAt]

I will publish a video today with the measurements, BT is shit.

[@onesikm3]

i was looking at one of these couple months ago since it has bluetooth 1and2 which would allow me to run my cars ecu tuning software and the optical out that i desperately would like to have. im really interested in the new helix bluetooth box you made a video on this week, but the only problem that would induce is i dont have the drc remote for my dsp and i cant find any here in the us. can you guys from overseas help me with buying one for the steg sdsp6 so that way i can have a volume knob? i cant give up my headunit because of this

[@Redpower_Official]

, this kind of unit is bad for SQ. Check Red power head units with pure optical signal

[@digginglow]

no rca no optical. that’s crazy they just toss a LOC and say figure it out

[@RAW-CAt]

It's part of the 😊 And it is a good opportunity to set the cheap LOCs - the results are surprising.

[@kovacspis]

The idea is very good, I really do like it. However I find it absolutely time wasting to spend any time on this particular modell, as it has literally no sq capacities. The vendor should send you their top of the line model for testing, that has a potential to be at least half decent.

[@kostas133kostas]

You could plug in those usb ports a cheap usb soundcard just to see If you get digital sound which bypasses the headunit's (bad) DAC. I have a chinese noname android headunit connected to a usb to optical soundcard, feeding my mosconi DSP 😃

[@RAW-CAt]

Apparently doesn't work on this..

[@magnuswf]

I'm curious about that. Can you link to such USB soundcard? I've got a 5-year old xtrons unit, and I don't feel like spending the money on a new "real" brand unit because I like having Spotify, Maps, reverse cam and such on a standalone system to not be dependent on my phone. If I could do like you, it would be very cool

[@magnuswf]

Also, I'm currently in the process of rebuilding my entire system with Gladen components, and the future smells like a nice mosconi DSP. Never tried DSP before. Which mosconi you got?

[@kostas133kostas]

First, make sure your headunit supports sound output to usb by connecting any set of earphones in any cheap usb audio card to see if you get any sound. I m currently using a behringer uca-222. Any usb sound card with optical output that doesn't require installing drivers in a pc should do for feeding your dsp. Keep in mind that you ll be getting digital output through the card but no analog output like fm radio. For analog output I m using headunit's rca to dsp in another preset but I rarely listen to radio. Volume control is done through drc controller. My dsp is mosconi 6to8 v8 which is a pain in the @ss to tune as it doesn't support the eq import function from REW. Make sure you get mosconi's newer models that support the above feature. Or take a helix one for peace of mind

[@onesikm3]

awhhhh what a bummer! the language barrier strikes again! =( no optical throw it in the trash lol

[@tk421tt]

Some work needed on product review videos.

[@RAW-CAt]

What exactly do you mean?

[@tk421tt]

@@RAW-CAt I really appreciate your channel and efforts. Sorry if my comment came off as harsh. The unboxing video could have been shorter, and I'd like to know more about each cable and see the user interface in action. Looking forward to your next video! 🤎

[@RAW-CAt]

​@@tk421ttNo problem, feedback is always welcome😊

[@tk421tt]

@@RAW-CAt ❤

[@AlexWayne1]

i dont like the atoto things. you shoulg absolutely get Joying to send you something. most of them have proper RCA, COAX and TOSLINK outputs.

[@RAW-CAt]

That is a great idea! I contacted Joying and waiting for the reply.

[@johnd5542]

I went back and forth between Joying and Atoto. I forget what made me go with Atoto. It may have been the dvr camera. Its not the best but it sounds good and it does more then any other brand name headunits. Ive tried using a galaxy S7 tab, but there was too many obstacles to get it to perform like a headunit. Then I bought a Kenwoood 1037s which died after 7months. Had the Atoto S8 Ultra for about a year now, and am moderately happy with it.

[@AlexWayne1]

@@johnd5542 Joying JY-UQ135N4G-DA here, i am more than happy. i run Spotify directly from the headunit without my phone, run Toslink into my Helix DSP and it just works.

[@roymiddleton5760]

I've had a joying and was very average. Went back to single din pioneer as it sounded way much cleaner. My friend however has a mekede. Never heard of the make but it's the vastly superior to my joying I had. I'm actually thinking on taking plunge on one for my partner's car. But very few reviews. Details like pre out and sample rate always missing on these retailers sites.

[@AlexWayne1]

@@roymiddleton5760 when was this? my previous pioneer and kenwood headunits sounded way way worse than my Joying does.

[@slowbrezze]

wow good way to turn premium into xtra trash just build the rca unto the unit .those cheap loc no no no.