HOW MUCH RANGE DOES MY 15 MINUTE EBIKE CONVERSION HAVE?!

[@9MileRoar]

Andy Kirby performs a pedal-assist range test, using moderate power levels and encountering occasional hills. He documents various checkpoints and the corresponding battery voltage. At 6.1 miles, the battery voltage drops by three volts. Andy continues the test, reaching 10 miles and then turning around. The battery voltage remains stable at 37 volts for a significant portion of the test. He faces challenging terrain, discusses puncture prevention, and experiences changing weather conditions. Despite the obstacles, the e-bike covers a total distance of 18.6 miles with a battery voltage of 33 volts, showcasing an impressive range for this setup. The video concludes by highlighting the bike's performance and suggesting that 15-20 miles can be achieved depending on factors such as weight.

[@wolfenstein6676]

All that time and expense for less than 19 miles range at 15mph?

[@oneyelloweric]

good idea for a basic conversion, but I would suggest that you fit a adjustable hinge on the display so that you can easily see the display all the times when riding will be a great improvement on the one your are promoting you will out do the swytch bike system totally

[@shoxali]

Dont know what it is but this video makes me proud to be British. Live your work Andy!

[@highheels200]

Feature request for gen2, would it be possible to charge with usb c power delivery? You could then use any modern laptop charger at the office to top it up while you're there which would reduce range fears for commuters without need to carry a charger which would be nice 😊 I'm a 100kg+ rider and it's hilly around here.

[@andykirby]

Yeah absolutely. We are already working on this 👍🏼

[@rudyparson4010]

​@@andykirbywhy are your forks the wrong way round is there any particular reason ??

[@simonandthelyricalpoets]

Being an e-bike rider, i value range the most. This looks like a good piece of kit.

[@jakemidgley4406]

You know what be good on that design is a pop up display you can see well riding the bike and see how much range you have lefted without having to lean over the handlebars to see the display or get off the bike

[@andykirby]

Yes, we have talked about this for the next version.

[@MadRat70]

@@andykirby Maybe they should integrate bluetooth and an app to display on an iWatch. Better yet, a simple clear piece of glass to project on like a automotive HUD.

[@Berniegraph]

Seems to be on a par, range-wise, with the Swytch gen 3, but not as good as my gen 2 which I can get a least 30 miles from. Will be interesting to see if delivery times and customer service are any better than Swytch.

[@daztastic147]

Is it necessary for the battery pack to be pointing downwards? It looks odd, like it should be facing straight forward…

[@ITSARAPPTTRS]

That was a cracking ride, they go so far on that charge

[@andykirby]

Cheers mate!😎

[@Zensaitv]

Would be cool to have a parallel Daisey chain range extender pack that could hook up to the triangle or backpack idk 😂

[@andykirby]

Yes that's coming too.

[@Zensaitv]

@@andykirby nice glad you thinking for improvement lol, awesome kit tho andy glad you back to ebike things.

[@PEMFron]

I'm impressed Andy

[@ianship5058]

To increasr the range you could cary an extra Battery in a saddlebag

[@dav1dbone]

That track playing, is that Hellen on the vocals? It might be a good idea to do a teardown of the hub motor, I've had a Swytch motor and the outer ring gear is plastic, I've had to 3d print a new one, even at that, I'm looking to cast one out of metal. Just interested to see the build quality on the gears?

[@KarrierBag]

I really need one of these, after having a seizure and ending up in a canal in my land rover am now on 2 wheels only ( and just 1 when I can on my Unicycle, honest) but this is something I can afford and use daily. I also live on a boat so was embarrassing but have towpaths to go down like you.

[@chargeriderepeat7024]

Same here, I took out 60ft of fence.

[@KarrierBag]

@@chargeriderepeat7024 sorry to hear that, was gonna be my 40th legally on the road too..... oh well at least I can still pilot my boat (makes me sound posh that does 🤣)

[@chargeriderepeat7024]

I had two, lost licence for two years. Back on the road now 😀

[@KarrierBag]

Gkad you got it back, I woke up in the canal again a few weeks later, have no real memory of that either, had a few since so meds galore now

[@ebikeoutdoors]

Thinking of getting one of these kits for my homemade ebike so it could be AWD looks a great little conversion kit ✌👍

[@rey_nemaattori]

15-20 miles is about the max commuting distance on a bike I'd reckon(anything more will just take too much time) Slap some saddle bags on the back, bring ur charger to work and you're good to return home.

[@odie7764]

I do the low gear thing commuting home from work. This is a great looking bit of kit. I've always wondered why their aren't more of these kits about. Particularly batteries with in built controllers. I'd love to see a similar kit to this but mid drive. With under saddle mounted battery.

[@dapor4920]

Be good to have a second kit with a rear wheel keeping the red light for the rear or carrier and the white light for the front kit so you always have a back up

[@maxheadroom1506]

carry spare battery

[@pete2109]

Gonna be a game changer mate without all the faff and wires hanging everywhere! 👌 simple installation choose ya wheel size bobs ya uncle! Thanks Andy, you better order loads! 🤣🤣👍

[@andykirby]

🙌🏻😎⚡️

[@highheels200]

@@andykirby this is a game changer and can switch my bike back to "normal" mode when I want to go out for exercise and don't mind getting sweaty. I'll keep an eye on your site for when it's available. Cheers dude 🙂

[@chargeriderepeat7024]

Thats very good for such a small battery hauling 200lb rider. I was expecting 15 on the flat only.

[@J0nny61]

That's all well and good, but you only really need the assist uphill. Where I live in Sheffield its down hill in every direction going out but steep uphill all the way back when you need it. So I'd need 7 miles of uphill power. It's steep and I'm 98kg, would it do it??

[@andykirby]

Yeah I reckon so. 👍🏼

[@elgorrion52]

You could glue neodimium magnets round a rim and an array of coils along a mudguard to generate power from the downhill, and maybe have the mudguard able to move up away from the mag field on the uphill so no drag. Oops, been watching too much Robert Murray Smith . . .

[@fishycomics]

I am looking for a kit, and what makes this better than the Swytch?

[@Bobbylegs37]

Perfect! How often do you cycle more than 30 km? Especially for commuting.

[@firstshot2169]

Every day i door dash

[@kcbeerslinger]

Iv'e always thought that if wheels are turning you should be able to recharge the battery while in motion. Bikes, cars, whatever. There might be a way to use the pedals somehow? If I could figure something out to do this, I would donate it to the public so it would be free energy.

[@MacFarlane123]

Excellent music choice!

[@onederment]

can the mk2 version have an external battery socket so we can plug in for extra range... I live in mountains and i find it a worry that someone obese won´t be able to pedal up the mountain without a spare

[@andykirby]

Yes it will, already discussing another unit that looks similar with a rear light built in, potentially being able to be used as a powerbank too.

[@jornmulder]

with the rear wheel hub/motor we can't do tubeless, kirbebike told me.. is that true ?

[@vwrick32]

Kirby, are you going to have pre-orders available, and which size wheels will you carry? Thanks!

[@anthonyg4671]

Kirby lol

[@donnicholls9368]

I have a 26'' wheel folding Dahon Jack. I fold it for the train everyday but take the handlebars off the stem using an Allan key. Could I still do this with your unit? (battery off, of course). Thanks.

[@gamlemann53]

Who is singing on your music tracks there Andy? I love your music you now? The best from LB1NH 🙂

[@zoidster]

I’ve got an old Electra Rat Rod cruiser that I’d love to put one of these on, it’s very heavy but it rolls like a train, when you get it up to speed it just rolls with very little effort at all and just keeps going. I reckon this would be ideal.

[@aaallllen]

Does the front light do much or why not angle the box higher so you can see the panel?

[@andrewgage8010]

How much does the battery weigh and where can you buy the kit. l had a swytch kit and it was crap. the battery died in less than a year.

[@_ROBERT.]

Andy im making a bike 🚲 can I put 4 × 12v motorcycle = 48v batteries in a row please ? Would this work ? If not why please ?

[@andykirby]

Yeah you can, they have to be wired in series.

[@_ROBERT.]

​@@andykirbyThank you 👍🏻

[@DennisKennedy-z9z]

Are/ do they have a piggy backup battery available ?

[@paulhayes4336]

It’s got me in 2 minds whether to convert my giant talon back from my Bafang and throw this kit on it

[@douglaswordingham9040]

hi , I have a sabvocon controller SVMC72150 . WHEN POWER ON . BLEW FUSE , WHAT SIZE FUSE FOR 72V 8,000 WATT BIKE . AND HOW TO TEST CONTROLLER FOR FAULTS . THE GREEN LIGHT ON SABVOCON NEVER CAME ON, PLEASE ANYONE HELP , DOUG

[@daveellsworth8553]

Cant seem to see this kit on the site . Can you point me in the right direction to find this please

[@paulwilliams8536]

Kit is not for sale yet, but will soon be on his web site

[@andykirby]

There's a page to register your interest being made as we speak👍🏼

[@johnwhittaker9945]

Great piece of kit, would you be able to deliver to Australia?

[@andykirby]

Yes no problem.👍🏼

[@markbaines225]

How much are the kits pls . I have a Raleigh Evo 7 SP folding shopper

[@nickjh1968]

Is this a Lifepo 4 battery Andy?

[@lesroberts2244]

Is the motor as quiet as the bafang g311? Cheers great entertainment.

[@rudyparson4010]

why are your forks the wrong way round is there any particular reason ??

[@andykirby]

They aren't, they are designed this way. Look at the disks ... both on the same side.

[@InkDropFalls]

where can i get this kit...cant see it on site

[@leecooper8589]

He stated in the previous video that this is a prototype and the production version is expected to be available in August.

[@InkDropFalls]

@@leecooper8589 Topman ..thanks for the info

[@glengosling5636]

Hi. Andy how much will T’Hsu kit cost, as I knew quite a few people who could be very interested in converting their existing bikes. ?

[@andykirby]

£450

[@oorcharliema]

Does 450 include the bike

[@5005jez]

pretty impressive really. simple kit to fit. 20mile range. Pull small box/battery off to charge . intresesring everything in the 1 box on front. be nice stronger batteries if possible for more range. intrested see it throttle only ride! the range ? as some of us are lazy .

[@leslieupton8022]

dont bother as a very experienced e bike rider you will end up throwing it into the skip in 3 months ,save your money build or buy a proper e bike i do 15,000 miles per year for the last 4 years on the same bike,hoping to do 100,000 miles before replacing,mine cost £600 to build it has duel batteries 34 amps twin chargers faster charge massive range at high speed up or down hills without lag ,250w mid drive with torque converter ,traction control. stability control, trail control, air shocks rear ,front downhill air shocks adjustable ,magnesium wheels scott full suspension frame ,comfort seat, wide bars, plus to many extras to mention ,charges up on solar free to run,and can be re programmed ,could sell with right offer

[@DennisKennedy-z9z]

Who/ what is the Make of the kit ?

[@JPOW94]

Very good piece of kit give it a few years we be able to do 100 mile on a battery no bigger than a power bank!

[@DanRC69]

With the VERY slow progress in battery technology I doubt it improving much in a VERY LONG time.

[@JPOW94]

@@DanRC69 read somewhere that they are already looking at a type of battery that can hold triple the charge to current batterys?

[@DanRC69]

@@JPOW94 Yeah, there's always talk about new battery tech, but it's always just words, never actual finished products, I GUARANTEE you won't be seeing ANYTHING like that for a VERY long time. I've heard the same thing so many times for the past 10 or so years and where is it now? No chance.

[@tonyholding5233]

Hiya what is the weight of the pack only?

[@andykirby]

3-4kg

[@jameshallen007]

I have one of your proper kits on the same bike you are riding in this vid and it has never dropped a bar after 60 miles...however my girlfriends Swytch kit Gen 2 pro struggles to do 30 miles in lowest power so really looking for a solution!!!

[@stillben]

I never got more than 18 miles on my gen 2 eco swytch, I weigh 63kg, on lowest power.

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

if you rode it at full power you'd kill the battery after 25 miles or so.

[@stillben]

I did 27 miles and almost flattened my 1300 battery on Friday. Full-Power assist, unlocked to 23mph max.

[@chrispike5773]

i use puncture resistant tyres.

[@jackrussel853]

Decent range for the money, sadly i'm a fat git so would probably only manage ten miles maximum 😂

[@FlyingFun.]

I have a fiido bike that is similar spec , im a bit lighter and battery is 350wh iirc, i get msybe 25 or so miles. These are good enough for commuting but gor oroper fun i like 1000w and 20ah 48v minimum.

[@krshoreham7634]

Are these going to be available for a twenty inch wheel bike

[@andykirby]

Yes

[@krshoreham7634]

@@andykirby thank you ..looking forward to more details and it’s release!

[@ianmangham4570]

Andy for prime minister 😅💯🤠🙏🇬🇧

[@KarrierBag]

Head Transport Minister if not PM 🤣

[@LoftechUK]

That’s Impressive

[@MotoNewsUK]

Would love to see you put this front wheel motor on an e-bike with a rear hub motor and see how powerful it feels just for a laugh

[@danmorrison667]

Would be even more interesting with a mid drive motor too!

[@leslieupton8022]

@@danmorrison667 it would be illegal ,would have to be registard with the dvla insurance,mot, number plates, crash helmet,driveing licence,and unable to ride on cycle ways ,roads only

[@David-wf1hr]

@@leslieupton8022 the law is that a motor must not produce more than 250w continuous power, but doesn't mention if you add a second 250w motor? maybe they've not thought you would have two motors?

[@leslieupton8022]

@@David-wf1hr nice try,but the dvla web site clearly states 250 w you dont need any more than 250w if use a middrive with a torque convertor i travel 300 miles per week every week,as your fittness levels increase 250w is more than you need a front hub motor would grab in a turn and be heavy and add extra maintainance and batteries for what,it will never catch on to heavy to cumbersome

[@johngodbolt8297]

In reality you wouldn't be using assist along a tow path thats flat, so distance can be much more if you only use it when needed😊

[@andykirby]

Yeah of course but you'll get where you are going quicker with assistance. If you are using it for commuting...

[@johngodbolt471]

@@andykirby hi Andy, I've been retired for 13 years and had forgotten about commuting! When I was much younger used to bke to work at fords of Dagenham from my house in the east end of London 3 speed gears lol

[@benpar8120]

Yup. If ulez expansion happens I'll need about a 40 mile range

[@closeureyesnopenurmind2432]

i got 4 tyres on my rear hub 1.75 a 1.95 a 2.10 and a 2.3 never get punctures on the bk and i got 2 tyres on front wheel😂

[@stevencalnan4908]

Can it be unlocked?

[@andykirby]

Yes

[@stevencalnan4908]

@@andykirby what's it top out at?

[@laneromel5667]

I live in Canada, anything less than 150Km is a non starter

[@zulfqarali905]

Hi andy are doing a great job and having fun making some brilliant videos superstar Ali Walsall west midlands england junction 10 m6 Walsall keep it up you

[@JohnnyVermeersch]

Top channel

[@1701_FyldeFlyer]

Im 67 in a few months but dont see the point in e bike assisted pedalling unless you're a lot older and dont have the energy to do say a 10 mile ride. Neitherdo Iseethe pointat riding between 15 and 20mph along a cycle path. It isnt going to get you fit \ fitter and Ibet the guy 'who finally' caught him is generally fitter.

[@andykirby]

I see your point but this is more about commuting. If you want to get to work or do an errand without getting sweaty or taking the car then ebikes are useful.

[@vincekerrigan8300]

FyldeFlyer. You are right of course, but health issues affect some people. I finally added a friction drive e-assist kit to my road bike when I hit 90 and the hills got a bit much. The hills are OK now, but I still get a good work out, depeding on the length and gradient

[@ziggarillo]

Batteries don't work well when cold, but neither do they work well when hot. Warmer isn't always better.

[@andykirby]

Internal resistance of a Lithium Ion battery decreases with heat which allows electrons to flow in and out of the battery faster...BUT they can overheat and that's when bad things can happen like thermal runaway. They generally work better when warm vs cold.

[@eBoard3R]

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[@domeafavour7449]

I think you need to expand your range to 48volts

[@EmeraldHill-vo1cs]

Your ez rider is dearer than a new ebike; aldi ebikes are $850 au, why go to the hassle?

[@clericoftruth8880]

Rainman Tester

[@marcovieira2032]

Looks like Holland

[@elgorrion52]

Hertfordshire, apparently. You can tell it's down south from the size of the lock-keepers cottage at 2:53 ;-)

[@Aviationwithpete]

No good in Yorkshire either. 😂

[@andyredvolvo9434]

👀👌

[@EnglishTurbines]

I don't think the BMS in my bike will allow you to flatten the cells down to 3.3 volts per cell....🤔🤔😳🇬🇧 I wouldn't like to push them that low TBH Chinese cells and BMS suicide is a well known phenomenon...🤔😳🇬🇧

[@andykirby]

They are LG cells 😁🙌🏻

[@EnglishTurbines]

@@andykirby That does make a difference, as does the BMS programming....🤔🤔😳😳😏😀🇬🇧🚴

[@johnmulligan912]

So this is advertising?

[@andykirby]

Yes...and???

[@rollacoastaride1937]

yep, one small step for an e bike, one giant leap for cyclist kind.

[@donky75]

18mile range for £500

[@andykirby]

What's wrong with that? It's lightweight, is removable and fits on nearly any bike?🤷🏻‍♂️ how far do you really want to go on a bike?😅

[@donky75]

@andykirby it's not distance it's the fact you have to charge it after every use and its a lot of money for the range you get

[@davelea8919]

this battery is way to small 7ah at 36v is never going to be great

[@andykirby]

What?! You have no clue

[@davelea8919]

@@andykirby run it battery only see how far you get

[@bonzobanana1]

I'm guessing its based around 3500mAh cells, 2 in parallel and 10 in series to give you 20 cells in total. This is quite a common configuration for ebikes and e-scooters. It's not a huge range but still a very usable range for most people. It would be more efficient with a throttle though so you only use power when you need it. Perfectly legal in the UK to have a throttle on an ebike kit. Department for Transport made a statement some years ago stating throttles were legal on ebike kits.

[@VenoXj1]

Close to 19 miles isn't that bad considering it's such a small battery but it also ruins the point of getting an Ebike in the first place when you only get like 20 miles of range. That is just absolutely useless in my eyes.

[@highheels200]

My round trip commute would be around 15 miles and can charge at the office as this thing is so small so it could do a 30 mile round trip in theory. Just need charging times and how big is the charger answering. Leaving a charger at work could be an option as well. I think it looks ace myself for commuting.

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

Not really, This thing is perfect for people who live like 5-8 miles away from their workplace. could easily ride in full power each way without running it flat.

[@elgorrion52]

An effortless 20 miles is something. I'd like to see a test with minimal assist, rather than pushing it to the limit