ANDYTHRAXX and DAN HURD's Gold Mine: What went wrong?

[@ANDYTHRAXX]

Super fun showing you around Kyle❤🙂 this was so cool it’s almost like a podcast!!

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Yeah! I love the way you're able to easily share so much information with just a regular conversation rather than trying so hard to put together your thoughts in a stand alone video. Super cool, and still a highlight experience of 2022!

[@jonathanheinz2376]

So very close to a podcast! More of this format, please.

[@ANDYTHRAXX]

@@UtmostOutdoors awe, you are great at interviewing so it was easy.

[@portercrumb8264]

Some important quotes from Andy: “have to pay to play”, “this is real”, “all I need is consistency” “all exploration costs money”. This conversation is a greater treasure than gold itself. I actually wrote down everything Andy said so I can read it again when I’m in a hole. Who is Dan Gherd? I’m crying with joy that Andy didn’t get upset with your prying questions.

[@s.d.iprospecting4359]

Andy is a Great guy,always up beat and his passion for what he is doing is infectious.

[@portercrumb8264]

He must be a great guy…for not knocking upmost out of the vehicle with those questions😂

[@ANDYTHRAXX]

@@portercrumb8264 😂 I don’t mind❤

[@ANDYTHRAXX]

That’s great to hear🍻

[@ANDYTHRAXX]

@@s.d.iprospecting4359 awe thanks so much

[@danhodgins4015]

Fascinating to hear that consistency of grade is everything - even when reprocessing old tailings on previously mined ground. Makes sense that if the low grade consistency is there you can add volume to make it profiable (especially as a one man show with low income requirements).

[@Squaredbets]

I can listen to gold talk so easily, cool video again, appreciated brothers! Hope you guys had a good summer and great holidays, let’s go!!

[@anisenkrill6179]

This discussion was great. You just don't get this kind of information anywhere else. Thanks a bunch.

[@alancadieux2984]

I watched that whole thing too, definitely good experience, finding a gold mine would take persistence. But now for the first time we actually hear it: someone else was there 1st. Thankyou for this conversation. I'm still on the end of a shovel, but that could change...

[@UtmostOutdoors]

You are very welcome Alan!

[@TheMiningChannel]

That was a great conversation on how mining actually is. Andy seems like a very knowledgeable guy and did not fail one bit on his his adventure as people see to think. The knowledge that he learned in that month can not have a price put on it, keep up the great work you to and thank you Kyle for uploading this great piece of information.

[@UtmostOutdoors]

I'm glad you enjoyed our conversation!

[@whalercumming9911]

This man is a wall of organization, I'm not a goldminer but I know a professional when I hear professional speak

[@dodgeit3014]

Also thanks for getting the answer. Love Dan but it seamed like it was left unanswered

[@UtmostOutdoors]

No worries! I'm just happy to have the opportunity to ask!

[@goldentroutprospecting1821]

For sure Andy is one of the good guys. And it was nice to be able to get inside that story with this video. But now I want you to get a time machine so you can do a video from 160 years ago. What it was like to walk up to a gravel bar and get 5 nuggets a pan. I'm an old guy so I don't have time for this learning curve business. :)

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Got it... Find virgin ground, discover amazing gold, tell you how that makes me feel. coming up ASAP!

[@chrissaucier9386]

Can't wait to see what's coming up from him. Maybe yourself can get into what he's doing. You know where to look so it's figuring out what you're willing to do to achieve. He's next level for sure. You're on track to be there yourself if you pursue it

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Yeah, I think Andy is going to do well. He has put so much of himself into his mining it will be so great to watch on his channel and see how he does!

[@dodgeit3014]

Love the videos. Andy is a stand up guy.

[@MadMarlin1964]

Andy is so infectious on so many levels. Thanks for sharing this.

[@Reglabbe]

I would come out and work with Andy ANY DAY !!!! he has come a long way and is doing great things and its an inspiration to see the progress he has made!!! Thanks for sharing this video with him!!

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Couldn't agree more! My pleasure to share this!

[@shanefrericks2070]

One of the best videos I have ever seen as far as insight to how to start up a commercial operation in gold mining. And it is a game of yards much like football. The more dirt you move the more money you make and that's just a basic fact. Andy is spot on with the pinch point being the trommel. And I can tell you something else 90% of all mining operations the pinch point is the trommel.. processing pay is the slowest operation and just about any operations. Whether it is final cleanup or initial run. My game I play is run hard all week clean up on the weekends or when it's raining or nasty weather. Andy's lucky he's got a cab on his excavator I've got an open station LOL

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Thank you! I do envy that nice cab on the excavator, such a cool setup!

[@s.d.iprospecting4359]

Love this collab. 2 of the most passionate miners in Canada,of course Dan is on that list for sure. u guys should work together i bet you would slay the gold.

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@gorillagoldhunters]

Absolutely awesome interview. Definitely awesome guys right there!

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Thanks! It was a great visit, easy conversations.

[@jeffmcauliff5315]

What you said about costs and employees is so true! I am a firm believer if your finding gold and your moving dirt run it all . I also like to core drill. Thank you for sharing the journey and look forward to this new project. I was permitted this year I’m aloud to work 5 ac at a time I’m also getting the placer and lode . My costs are also very low.

[@duanesmith8427]

Another great video. Keep sharing. Thanks buddy

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Thanks Duane! Glad you're enjoying the videos!

[@SasquatchBioacoustic]

Andy's full of great info. Thanks for doing this video.

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Our pleasure!

[@minerjim1531]

Andy, Absolutely great that your learning from your experience, Exploration is everything! Thanks for the great video, Every miner needs to understand this aspect of mining. Test, test, test!

[@cougerchris]

Great conversation guys,!

[@mazuj2]

Great insight to a hidden world!

[@UtmostOutdoors]

It really IS like a hidden world to see behind the scenes what goes on in the business of mining... I'm glad you enjoyed it Mazuj2!

[@SMoore-js6fy]

Good discussion. Right, it's the equipment that makes the difference in production. Hope you find another good prospect. Enjoyed the Trout Lake project!!

[@TheGoldPanner]

That was a great chat!

[@Squaredbets]

Keep killing it!

[@goldmemberr]

Andy is the man!!

[@jaredput]

Ah yes the allure and romance of chasing gold... many of us here share the burden of the fever! Thanks for asking the questions you did and may 2023 bring you much success.

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Thanks Jared, I'm glad you enjoyed our conversation!

[@iSTAYuGO]

Kyle & Andy, Lets dig!

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

From the title I thought there was some crazy drama between Dan and Andy or something. also just realized this is a year old.

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Hum... Yeah, seems like that mining experience was a good one all around, just with surprisingly little gold to show for it was all. My intention with the title was definitely not to stir any drama, I'm open to suggestions on a more accurate one.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

@@UtmostOutdoors I can't think of a better one. It's not an issue with your title it's an issue with the way KZbin titles work and just the way viewers have been conditioned I guess.

[@gndn]

If Dan made such a bad plan, and Andy saw it right away, is there no way to modify the plan to make it work. Amd were there reasons Dan made such a bad plan, or did he just not know what he was doing?

[@minerjim1531]

Andy, In gold mining with equipment you do have to play through , like golf! But understanding the deposit will save you from a very bad year!

[@greatbasingoldrush]

Andy's my favorite channel But I have to strongly disagree on Big companies making it on $5 a yard. You cannot replace grade with volume small placier miners must high grade only cause we can't run huge volume to make up for grade

[@UtmostOutdoors]

I have a feeling he's on much better than $5 a yard right now... I can't wait to see more of his new operation!

[@minerjim1531]

@greatbasingoldrush, If you understand you deposit, you can balance the whole property to make it all profitable, that is where exploration, drilling or trenching and understanding become important to success!

[@MrSmilinghuman]

Make sure to let the people you interview answer your questions lol. Nice job though this is very helpful. :)

[@independent9245]

Drill, Drill, Drill, best advice I've ever heard. Your excavator should do the job. Good talk.

[@patdenney7046]

You find a spot and then you adapt to any mining technique that may be efficient for that spot . Can can be thousands of different scenarios the ability to adapt ! Like not having a dump truck are the wrong size Equipment! Five dollars a yard in gold and $10 a yard in aggregate I with the right equipment and the right spot and with the right knowledge

[@gerardvriend729]

I’m not sure why Andy still has to learn so much! Keep it simple. Stop if you’re not finding gold!

[@markanderson3740]

It's been a year, what is Andy doing now?

[@HMccafferty-tg7es]

the campground would have also determined where your equipment would have been placed

[@bartbley1269]

Very good video . Musts in mining . Get a good paying Job to pay for your mining habit, Determination, and Prospect ,Prospect, Prospect ,and Prospect . Expect years to go by without any success. Terry Toop of the Cariboo area took decades before he struck it big and He was one of only a few that are very successful . I was told by an old timer one day that only one in two hundred just make a living at it

[@UtmostOutdoors]

I'm going to make gold someday Bart! I want to be a gold miner more than I can explain... Just about finding the path to getting there!

[@ANDYTHRAXX]

Wow that’s incredible, the Toop story sure is amazing!!

[@krakhedd]

I wanna know why they left that highly mineralized vein in the bedrock alone!! As far as I know they didn't even assay it!!

[@weedfreer]

I'm trying to understand this conversation...did Dan stuff up here...is Andy annoyed by that? Or, was it the constraints of the site and, as such, just one of those things? The not having initially understood that the ground has already been worked, I could understand given the passage of time...but, citing the processing rig that far away so as to incur that much overhead in fuel seems bad planning...unless there was a reason for this...which, I was left a little hanging on after watching the video.

[@UtmostOutdoors]

I don't think anyone is annoyed with anyone. I think the whole thing was taken as an excellent learning experience. Onwards and upwards. I could tell listening to Andy that he learned so much from that first attempt, and he chose to be appreciative of the learning rather than bitter about the gold. That's the impression I got anyways...

[@weedfreer]

@@UtmostOutdoors yeah, that much I get...however, the area I'm still somewhat 'grey' about is as to how much of an oversight, if any, the choice of layout was. I understand that ultimately, yes, it's all a learning experience...however, I wasn't sure as to whether the positioning was as a result of the constraints imposed by the authorities (granted, as a result of the unique conditions present at the site), or was it more a case of neither one of them being particularly experienced in that respect and, therefore, it was not so much a point of contention, moreover, one giant exercise in lessons learnt. Knowing Dan from watching his channel, I would imagine he laid out the plan as per the correct interpretations of the authority's requirements...and that the annoyance/inconveniences incurred were a result of this. Basically, I'm not trying to pin any blame here...I just wasn't clear as to whether the plant layout was commited in a foolhardy way (of course, with the best intentions) or as to whether there were situations in place on site which led to the plan which was ultimately signed off on

[@UtmostOutdoors]

@weedfreer I guess that would have to be a question for Dan if I ever wind up sitting in a truck next to the guy :) I don't know enough about machine mining to even fathom a guess here. Great questions, and super cool to see at least some of the behind the scenes thought processes.

[@weedfreer]

@@UtmostOutdoors indeed 😀

[@Danhurd]

@@UtmostOutdoors I would love to sit in a truck and have a chat with you sometime. As for the layout, Andy and I discussed this lots after the fact. You know hindsight, 20/20 and all. Unfortunately the answer to this is far more than I can type here. The layout way trying to utilize an existing tailings pond, and wash plant landing that I used in previous years. And was placed there at the time because of seepage and runoff issues to follow government guidelines. The small area for the test trench was just that a small test trench to soo what was there. and unfortunately was an afterthought and very quickly added to the permits at the last minute, as the main permit was a much bigger area in behind that Sebo was planning to mine. On what we know is better ground. And again, *hindsight*, we should have put an amendment in right away when we saw that the distance was going to be a problem. Rather than just pushing through. And after I saw what that excavator could do it would not have been a problem to dig into the mountain to make a spot for a pond closer.

[@Golden_B1]

You smart!!!

[@ninefingermining8694]

cool video

[@Arthagnou]

You didnt do any test boaring?

[@mikehartman5326]

Sometimes the personal financial situation determines the final decision. I'm on my second career and could continue an effort. Some people I am working with, it is their only income. They need to feed their families and pay the bills. I see it as an additional investment that was just getting out as much as possible and because Andy could, he did.

[@wvcopwatcher8979]

Nice, bet your having a blast. 😁😅 🤙👍✌️

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Always!

[@wvcopwatcher8979]

@@UtmostOutdoors at a boy. I know I would, I'd be like a Lil kid. 😆 🤣

[@gorillagoldhunters]

5$ a yard lol I wanna know the name of that mine lol

[@blairmurphy5531]

😕 Need more action

[@jonathanderekvanwieringen3773]

Here in South Africa we get more money for Gold than You, 30 000zar🤣🤣👍🤙just kidding. You gotta Eat Porridge Before Caviar 😁👍🤙

[@mohammednovalija]

Am I mistaken in that you were somewhat fearful of losing your Life early in this interview ? I myself was shitting myself for you , with a driver who is not watching the road and has no hands on the steering wheel , even though he apparaently was in full control.

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Trucks practically drive themselves on those rutted back roads... I'm only ever concerned when there is other traffic to worry about. I thought Andy did a fine job driving safely given where we were and our slow speed. Maybe it just looks like we're moving quickly on camera.

[@mohammednovalija]

@@UtmostOutdoors I thought I saw you on numerous occasions pointing to the front of the vehicle and making slight hints in that direction

[@portercrumb8264]

@@mohammednovalija I think you may be on to something…

[@ANDYTHRAXX]

Haha I’m a hand talker for sure!!! But the potholes in the road are so bad we were only travelling at jogging speed.

[@gorillagoldhunters]

@@ANDYTHRAXX it’s a Tesla truck! Lol awesome video you 2! Can’t wait too see what the future has in store!