Angel 2x10 - "Reunion" Reaction

[@victorsixtythree]

8:56 - HA, when the car spins around, Cordelia is clearly a mannequin. How strange. It doesn't appear to be a particularly dangerous stunt or anything but what do I know?

[@AfterShowReactions]

what the fuck LMAOOOO

[@lorkac]

Not all stunt doubles/models are for danger-sometimes it’s about time/cost. Every actor, stunt double, dummy, etc... have different costs and levels of availability. Sometimes an episode is made better because money allotted to say an actress doing her own stunt gets shifted somewhere else and they use a dummy instead.

[@victorsixtythree]

lorkac - makes sense. Actually, re-watching it again, it's possible that Gunn and Wesley are dummies too. But at least they're upright! [EDIT: never mind. Gunn's and Wesley's heads move - unless they're like bobble head dummies?]

[@datickywickygurl]

Lol Why would you point that out??? I can never unsee that! 🤣🤣🤣

[@victorsixtythree]

Then I probably shouldn't mention the skid marks on the road BEFORE the car spins around...(and "Beauty Effulgent"? sounds...poetic)

[@stinkingyeti]

I love the look on Lindsay's face when angel walks away, he has an almost smile like he totally respects the move.

[@blueamaranth9419]

In a weird way, I think Drusilla is possibly the most tragic character in either series. She loses everything as a human through no fault of her own, and then she loses her second "family" as a vampire because they wander off, get killed, get a soul, whatever. Bad enough to be damned, but damned and alone is really sad.

[@darksaint0124]

That character yet to appear is the most tragic.

[@jimmy2k4o]

3rd family. Her 1st were her real family that angelus killed 2nd was her sister nuns at the convent she fled too to escape angelus. He killed them too. 3rd was the vamps. And angel killed one of those. But on the upside Dru dumped Spike, her last family member of you will….. so I don’t think she feels as bad about it as you do.

[@lorkac]

When people say that Angel is darker and grittier, it’s almost never because of gore or violence but because of the actual moral decisions he and his team makes. It’s riddled with mistakes, weaknesses, and difficult moments not often explored in the demographics the show was aimed at.

[@robinschicha4712]

Yes, Darla & Dru are cool. Killing you in the Shopping Mall. Sweet.

[@SeraphSeph]

Some of the decisions are pretty good. He had no reason to risk his life to save those "people".

[@Xehanort10]

And it's more morally grey than the black and white show Buffy often was.

[@andrewthezeppo]

I personally think Buffy season 6 is darker than any season of Angel

[@parkerboy795]

@@andrewthezeppo Unfortunately, it wasn't done that well. If anything, that season shows that being dark is not always good.

[@elizabethdicewielder7689]

The relationship between Darla and Drusilla is so beautiful. Like, sure, they’re evil, but I feel like you kind of forget about that when you see how much they care about each other.

[@grammerincorrect]

I always headcannon that they’re so close after dealing with all of Spangels bullshit over the years, they both love big dumb dumbs

[@ggamesgarner8027]

But they literally kill people right in front of you and you want to say this? Please delete your embarrassment of a comment right now elizabeth.

[@BNILES41]

Yep. This was another turning point for the show. Him locking them with Darla and Drusilla and then firing his crew is a game changer. But this is pretty much the Angel we saw in the 50's.

[@Buffy8Fan]

I never looked at it that way. Although even 50's Angel tried to help at one point. So technically I think here he is a little darker than even then.

[@BNILES41]

Buffy8Fan Sorry I was meaning the 50's moment when he left them there.

[@Buffy8Fan]

So was I. He attempted to help the girl who stole money from her employers. Her betrayal was what made him slip entirely into the same darkness as he is in by the end of this episode. That was what I was referring to.

[@elizabethdicewielder7689]

“I don’t know how to feel...” Welcome to Angel season 2

[@4Tom4lepus4]

Dru is one of my most favorite characters, any episode with her is just magical! And I love that you love her! "I'm ringing all over... Oh yeah, I forgot about that" is one of my favorite lines :D

[@wolfgirl8282]

That was a crazy episode but lets face it, we all love to see the dark side of Angel now and again. Drucilla though.. she's just fantastic, what an amazing actress. I've spoken to her via twitter a couple times she still loves to be quoted her Drucilla lines lol she's high key one of my favourite characters given how well she plays insanity.

[@JR-hi1ow]

Yessss my favorite ever Angel episode I've been looking forward to this one the most! Even just for the "I Can't seem to care" scene alone

[@dancingjoy0788]

That is why they showed the 1950s flashback episode early on in this season. A little foreshadowing of the season's arc. Even as an ensouled vampire on the road to redemption, Angel is still battling his inner demon and darker half.

[@jimmy2k4o]

This wasn’t his inner demon. His inner demon would have joined the massacre. This was revenge/justice. I think this came from the darker side of Angel’s humanity. He did this because of all the people W&H hurt and killed, and would hurt and kill in the future. Any other group and angel would have saved them. But these guys, he’ll save more lives by letting these killers die. Imagine a room full of SS Nazis, would you doubt the morality of letting them get eaten? Personally I think saving a group of high ranking nazis (which would be the equivalent) would be a very immoral. Almost like being an accomplice to their future crimes.

[@Tony-fq5bn]

@@jimmy2k4o Same way I feel about Batman not killing the Joker even tho Joker always escapes and kills many more people

[@connorblake1390]

5:17 Its such a small detail, but i fucking LOVE how Angel calls her "Dru". After all this time, after he's had a soul, after he all did to her and after all the atoning, he's still familiar with her. Angel and Dru are family, no matter who is good or evil. No one in either series has ever called her Dru except for Angel, Spike, and Darla. Those four (the Whirlwind) is my favorite part of both shows. The metaphor of how desperately you want to love your family no matter how toxic they are to your life is so relatable. Watching Angel and then Spike both go through that journey is an absolute heartbreaking joy

[@LeshaAnn]

"HEALTHY attachments, Lindsay."

[@Stjewy]

This is one of my favourite and def ot best Angel episodes imo, LOVE how dark it is, first time we see ANGEL, not Angelus not give a flying fuck about what is right, just pure hatred and vengeance when he closes that door, IN-CREDIBLE scene, could watch it over and over, and great reaction as always !

[@antonbrakhage490]

I think the reason Darla attacks Dru as well is that before she was turned this time, she wanted to die, or had at least accepted dying. So even though she doesn't have a soul now, the memory of that death wish, and her anger at Dru for turning her, is still there.

[@jimmy2k4o]

“The soul is gone but it leaves a bitter after taste” Darla - Epiphany season 2 episode 16 Maybe that’s why Angel ran away from a sleeping Buffy in BTVS season 2 episode 14 when his soul was leaving. Maybe he was trying to protect her.

[@jychilly]

On Buffy, the turning point of the show was when Angel lost his soul. It elevated the series to a whole new level. If there's a similar moment in Angel, it's the ending of this episode. I think this is when the show gets really interesting.

[@RitsychServare]

except it's still not similar 'cause Angel was still Angel. He was just super pissed and fed up with these people. Save them? they let loose the biggest baddest vampires in history next to him and Spike! He had more of a soul than those lawyers who thought they were winning (hey they were celebrating Darla and Dru's reunion! wtf? that would be Angel's mind) but it ended up biting them in the ass. When Angel lost his soul in Buffy, he felt the need to torment Buffy and her friends.

[@griftert7]

dru and darla ....the team-up you never knew you wanted till this ep(always great to see dru bring her craziness to a series)and angel locking the suits in at the end was always badass

[@anouar3194]

This was the first episode that really haunted me when i first watched it, incredible episode whith great twists at the end, from here the show is getting better and better.

[@Ejay669]

I like Angel refusing to save the Wolferman Heart guys; it's obviously not the morally right/heroic choice but hey if you want to plan and scheme to kill someone only to have it backfire I guess you reap what you sow.

[@jonathanbutler5628]

Jay667b agreed

[@readeraway3393]

Same here, no foul on Angel. But he shouldn't have fired the gang.

[@UTU49]

I disagree. Angel allowing Dru and Darla to kill all those lawyers was unquestionably wrong. It's understandable and it's poetic justice, but it's still completely wrong. And it's GREAT storytelling!

[@vlonewolfv]

It's definitely one of the top 10 moments in this show. You are kind of happy that the lawyers got their due, but that Angel not only let it happen, but LOCKED THEM IN. That's just crazy. Then firing his team. Such great moral complications in this show, and it's when I feel it really starts to move past Buffy, quality wise.

[@readeraway3393]

Locking the doors was figurative - it's a decorative lock held on with trim screws. One good kick would open it. The two gals near the door were the real barrier.

[@AshLee92490]

Drusilla is my favorite vampire in Buffyverse. She scares me the most honestly. You don't know what's she's going to do. What's she going to say? What she knows? Alluring, caring, free, peace and childlike, and yet seductive, broken, extremely deadly. Completely unpredictable. For some reason, I always imagined what it'd be like if she were to sire Faith. Now that would be something...

[@trollingmermaids]

Yes! I prefer Faith as a Bad Girl haha she always played it so well! Dru is one of my favorite villains in the Buffyverse for the same reasons you listed

[@explodingplant2]

Dru and Spike were/are such awesome interesting characters who possess these stand out entertaining tones that resonant. Spike got WAY overused (more so even than Fonzie) but Dru got so underused 🙁 she's only in a handful of episodes

[@jimmy2k4o]

She can also make you think she’s weak, vulnerable or crazy. When infact those damages make her a more ruthless enemy Afterall she’s the product of angelus’ masterpiece, the amount of torture she knows from experience coupled with her psychic abilities that made her able to put people into a trace, see the future or trigger specific hallucinations.

[@terpcj]

Darla and Dru -- a spin-off if every I saw one. This was one of my favorite episodes on so many levels.

[@beth7456]

OMG! This episode is so good! I love the wine cellar scene so much!! “Daddy’s home” your reaction was so good!

[@jjpe306]

Let's take stock of the major members of the Order of Aurelius. Angel's getting darker by the moment and put one over on his rivals; Darla is back as a vampire and causing havoc with Dru; and Spike is in Sunnydale sniffing sweaters.

[@paulgibson7353]

JJPE the only one of those who was ever in the order of Aurelius is Darla

[@Kratos-GodOfWar]

The Order Of Aurelius is The Master, The Anointed One, and all their followers, right?

[@April7739]

This is SUCH a powerful episode! So interesting to see the dynamics between Angel, Darla, and Dru.

[@elizabethlaforge9207]

After several rewatches I sort of realised that the spell/ curse used on Angel to restore his soul was created specifically for him, and probably could not be used on any other vampire and that's why they coudn't call Willow

[@SeraphSeph]

Honestly the curse makes no sense as a punishment but I know that's not what you're talking about. Yea willow hasn't figured out how to restore his soul without the curse so no point in calling her.

[@andrewthezeppo]

If season two Willow could do it I think season five and on Willow could especially if teamed with Tara they could have made an army of ensouled vampires

[@bethod5191]

Killing lawyers, I guess thats wrong? Lol Loved your smile when Darla threw Lindsey across the room :D

[@Shoofyou10]

I love this arc where Angel goes dark. I was shocked by the ending of this episode the first time I saw it. This is when the show went from being kind of a weekly supernatural procedural. To the next level of, not messing around. So good

[@talynstarburst2l2l2l]

I want to call him Dark Angel now, but there is already a show called that lol

[@tsukigalleta]

This episode is AMAZING in every single way, and it's between Juliet Landau's three favorite episodes (Drusilla) in the whole Buffyverse. Darla and Dru's interactions are pure gold!! And Angel's choices.... so shocking!! Thank you so much, Shan!! I think I'm gonna rewatch it right away!!!

[@CarlosHuiskens]

Now that you've seen this episode do you remember a few episode back during the episode ''Darla'' Drusilla said to Darla ''I could be your mommy'' Well that just happened haha

[@catherinethurmond4776]

Great reaction to one of my favorite Angel episodes. I love Dru she is one of my favorites and I love deciphering her Dru speak.💜

[@matth1589]

l love that rolled-r bark/growl she does.

[@KayEmCee92]

Angel feels like he failed darla, by not saving her soul especially because since she is his sire so he has basically said to himself “fuck it, I can’t do much good now so I’ll just close myself off.”

[@awarriorstill]

I don't think Angel would ever want to inflict a soul onto another vampire. It is a literal curse to him. To force her to live an immortal life with a conscience and guilt while constantly having to deal with a literal demon inside that desires almost nothing but evil. Calling Willow probably never crossed his mind.

[@windowsVD]

+Awarriorstill As much of burden the soul curse is, I think he'd prefer that to the alternative, which would be just letting vampires run amok and murder people. I think it has much more to do with the curse being designed specifically for Angelus and couldn't be used for other vampires. Otherwise, why didn't Buffy and the Scoobies ever try to ensoul chipped Spike and actually make him into a willing and contributing member of the group?

[@SeraphSeph]

Spike didn't have the ssme issue, you can get your soul back without losing it if you're ever happy, the gypsies were just inconsiderate of the soul when punishing angelus.

[@deljay1840]

I remember the ending of this episode and still think about it at times to this day. I think we can can relate to the Angel heel turn. Shocking but believable

[@nomohakon6257]

When i first saw this episode, and Angel "walking away", i thought something like "Karma, bitch!".

[@tedkord1968]

This was a great year for TV between Buffy and Angel. And it still stands up today. You won't be disappointed. I envy you experiencing it for the first time now.

[@DegrassiInstantStar]

Dru's arrival at the end of the previous episode was powerful; loved watching your reaction to that episode and to this, as well. It's also shocking to see where Dru came from at the beginning of S2 of _Buffy_ and her arrival to _Angel_. It's powerful. I am excited to see you react to what's coming next.

[@SweenyTodd98]

Right? Juliet Landau didn't say a word at the end of the last episode but she still had so much presence that she was terrifying

[@DegrassiInstantStar]

It was her body language and her eyes.

[@AshLee92490]

The Host warned him. Angel has been at a crucial junction concerning Darla and the path concerning her would lead to madness. He didn't listen and he doesn't. Sometimes people don't want help when they fall into darkness. They embrace it. Removing those who can pull them back into the light because they don't want it, even if they know they need it...

[@Tony-fq5bn]

Its not like he has that much of a choice, Wolfram and Hart whole plan is to use her against him

[@AshLee92490]

@@Tony-fq5bn Angel thought saving Darla would save him, like it would be some full circle of Redemption. It blew up in his face, just like everyone told him it would. He just refused to listen...

[@Tony-fq5bn]

@@AshLee92490 Imo that can be said about his whole mission. If thats the case then he should just give up the whole fight and just find peace.....cuz the mission does get almost everyone killed

[@AshLee92490]

@@Tony-fq5bn He was literally warned that going after Darla would lead him to a dark path. He thought saving Darla would save him to the point it was an obsession. He knew he was being baited, and took the bite anyways. And when he failed, instead of taking the L and moving forward to keep fighting the good fight, he took it personally and tried to destroy everything about himself, including his loved ones in the process. He made it about him instead of listening to what everyone was telling him. The mission. What true redemption is. Doing the right things for the right reasons. The war doesn't end, but you keep doing good despite of it. That was the epiphany he got in the end...

[@Tony-fq5bn]

@@AshLee92490 Wolfram and Hart would've kept using her against him anyway, no matter what Wolfram and Hart was always going to push him there someway or another, if he does nothing does Darla just go away? They most likely turn her into a vampire anyway and then people would be like you shoulda done something, or they hold her hostage or they kidnap Cordelia, the show was going to get Angel to the dark side somehow for that arc

[@dinosorcle92]

I literally gained life experience watching a TV show about vampires in L.A.

[@davidramirez4570]

I always LOVED that last "daddy" form Drusilla.

[@dancingjoy0788]

Dru has some fucking iconic moments in this episode. 11:57 and 17:28 are especially hilarious.

[@RLucas3000]

cici88 Her lion’s blood line is pretty awesome too! Is it just Dru being crazy? You get the feeling that at some point she’s bitten a lion!

[@dancingjoy0788]

yes! also the "she's DEAD" line to Lindsay is also hysterical.

[@blacktronlego]

Dru's occasional bouts of apparent sanity are somehow even more troubling than her craziness.

[@DarthCrimsonDeath]

This is the moment, the episode that ramps it up and gives us a glimpse of how dark Angel is willing to go, it's not about redemption now. It just gets better and better. And how I love Dru and Darla together too.

[@jammlest]

Angel: I need to find her *going through a cabinet* Gunn:well your probly not gonna find her in there

[@baozibang9369]

I waited for this particular Episode since I knew you would react to Angel💜

[@nataliej54]

great episode. it's just soo powerful. Drusilla and Darla teaming up again is just awesome.

[@SweenyTodd98]

and so begins one of my favorite arcs on the show: rogue Angel

[@kellykarjola1886]

Wesley never met Drusilla before she arrived in LA in 2000 but he was a Watcher and he has studies Angelus's history, which included Darla, Drusilla and Spike.. That is how he knew about all of them all ready..

[@lawrencegough]

Such Dru and Darla awesomeness, plus Angel’s dark turn, make this one of the top episodes of the season. I remember my shock at the last scene....whither Angel Investigations?

[@dravenuk]

Love this episode. Love this season and the whole Darla story. And yes, sooo good to have Dru back. Juliette Landau is just awesome!

[@Khay-77]

I can understand being a hero and all but they reap what they sow. Their law firm is behind everything bad going on in the city. Let them suffer what they created.

[@shawnskelton4736]

Been waiting for you to get to this episode forever lol. Now, you start to see how dark Angel can get...

[@blackkatt777]

Juliet and James give a 1000% when they play Spike and Drucilla. They are the missing spice on either show they pop up in. You can't help but cheer for them, even if they are supposed to be the bad guys. lol Darla is such a delight. I just love all 4 of these vampires when they delve into their family history and pull out those nuggets of emotion and resentment of one another. If this were Vampire Diaries, they'd be a twisted version of the Originals. lol. I could just see the Mikaelsons looking at Angel and be like "WAIT. WHAT?! You got a soul? Girls can be slayers too? Is she worse than our father? Stronger, you say?" lol

[@catrin3944]

I love Drusilla so much. When the actress started following me on Twitter I basically freaked lol

[@talynstarburst2l2l2l]

Holland thought he was in control this whole time.. he had no idea what he was doing when he brought Darla and Drusilla together lol

[@spangelicious837]

You thought the last episode was a game changer! LOL. And imagine having to wait a whole month to see what happens next.

[@kellykarjola1886]

That was my favorite thing that Angel has EVER done! Locking Darla and Drusilla in the wine cellar with the Wolf Ram & Heart layers! That was awesome! He should not have fired his staff though..

[@phantomgames8433]

I most love in Angel is its dark atmosphere, its always so interesting, mysterious. Angel not like Buffy serie. There ara a lot of mile stone parts of Angel, even I can't count or which episode to start. But this episode is one of them and the previous one. The scripts, acting, story, backstory they all awsome. I can't stop myself telling Angel sorry :D There are lot much to say about this. the part of Angel let Darla and Drusilla kill W&H people, I can understand how he feel. If I in Angel's position I could do same thing. Yes Angel cross his limits but he is in desperate. He is sad, down. About firing Cordelia, Wesley and Gun its bad come on Angel don't do that to them. Juliet Landau( Drusilla) I love her charcter so much, her acting is wonderful. And I must say stupid Lindsey :D What were you thinking :D

[@randy_n]

I'm not sure what is says about me that I am very attracted to Drucilla.

[@ianrhodes6928]

I went to a signing she did. She is stunning. Most beautiful woman I ever been within 3 feet of.

[@Kratos-GodOfWar]

We talking the actress, Juliet Landau, or the character, Drusilla

[@gargantuapartytime]

One of the best episodes of the earlier seasons of Angel and i'm so so so happy that you seemed to enjoy Angel's decision to pretty much decide to let a bunch of no good lawyers get their comeuppance xD

[@kalandkarazor-el3088]

Such a great episode. Always a favorite whenever Darla and Drusilla are together

[@TOMMYFARRWALES]

I like seeing Angel dark like that, hence why this is one of my favourites,,was hoping this survive the blocking! when is the next ones due,,great video!

[@rexracer3221]

Good Reaction :^) Angel going Darkside, or at least Neutral. (The Wolfram & Heart lawyers were NOT innocents). Kind of Angel's Batman Moment:" I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you"... Firing Gunn, Wesley, Cordelia was extreme. WHO will want to work for a Boss that will fire you for NO reason (or a $hitty reason)? Especially when you are trying to help.

[@vlonewolfv]

Yeah but Angel also locked them in. He essentially condemned them to death on purpose. Not just through inaction.

[@RitsychServare]

They got paid to have innocent people killed. It was just payback for everything they've done to him, to his team, to Darla, and to all the innocent people they've victimized. He could've put them in jail but they got too many connections and would find a way to escape or bail out... so yeah they got what was coming. Would you rather that Angel save them and possibly have them stab them in the back like what Lindsey did when Angel did him a favor? Angel basically sacrificed them. But he still has to stop the two most powerful vamps that these people brought in.

[@vlonewolfv]

Christy Reserva that’s the danger though. Yes it can be argued they deserved it. But when you keep acting as if you are morally righteous, then where does the line end. If you are the sole arbiter of who deserves to live and die, then the line that needs to be crossed will keep moving. It will move so far that you are as evil as the lawyers. This morally grey area is exactly why Wolfram and Hart didn’t mind that all of them were dead. It pulled Angel closer to the grey which is what they wanted. At the end of the day, W&H couldn’t have been happier about it. So trying to justify it is questionable at best.

[@Tony-fq5bn]

@@vlonewolfv It can't be argued that they deserved it, they definitely deserve it. They sold their souls to the devil for eternity and voluntarily dedicated their lives to murder, sacrificing babies, rape and all the worst things in the world. Lindsay literally went back to W&H after they tried to kill a bunch of kids because he got a promotion.....

[@alixpluckrose8406]

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[@Buffy8Fan]

By the time the comics happen, even the writers reference your "let that sink in" moment. For me the next arc of the season is the hardest part of the season, perhaps even the series. The whole point of the season with Darla was that the writers wanted to get Angel to this point here at the end of this episode. Kind of like Buffy in season 2 only Angel is in a darker place for different reasons and it is unintentionally and partly of his own making.

[@left8277]

I love this arc. It might be my favourite in the Buffyverse. Morals and character driven story and just wow I love this.

[@menachemsalomon]

If we're thinking Oedipus, Darla sired Angelus, and she was hoping he would sire her in return. It's normal, even epic, among vampires. Not weird at all, according to what Darla told the vamp in the bar last episode. No, I think the "I'm going to be a mummy" line ought to remind you of, "I could be your mummy" in the scene just before Drusilla sires Spike.

[@Logan_Baron]

Wesley saying Angel is putting too much stock in someone (Druscilla) who is clearly crazy, doesn't understand her. Sure she's crazy, but there is a rationality, or a method to her craziness. It always makes sense in a certain way. I mean it makes sense to her. So Angel is right in understanding that the clues are there if he can just understand what she means.

[@anonmouse6337]

Remember when Drusilla said something like 'I can be your mummy' when Darla objected to being called 'grandmother' in a flashback an episode or 2 back? Foreshadowing!

[@KarlJeager]

The thing that always confused me about the wine cellar scene is, if the Wolfram & Heart guy is regularly working with demons and demon assassins where the hell is his home security? Surely someone coming to kill him is not an out of context situation. Aside from that, if Angel wanted everyone there dead including Dru and Darla setting the building on fire after locking them in would probably have been an effective plan but I guess he wasn't really thinking about that.

[@marclewis5505]

Shan your reactions to Angel leaving all of them lawyers 2 die also when he fired Cordy, Wes & Gunn was great loved it yo!😀👍

[@ciphernine7824]

After what happened with human Darla at the hands of Drusilla w/ W&H, it pushes Angel over the edge. Angel goes from being a champion of the innocent and helpless, to becoming an agent of vengeance against evil, as he sets out to utterly destroy the true Evil of W&H (its "Senior Partners"). He adopts the same Machiavellian methods and mentality as his enemy, unconcerned with whatever collateral damage he may be causing to those he's meant to protect.

[@norasmith2474]

And now Darla is like Angel's granddaughter but also his mother and former lover? Vampire relationships, no matter what movie/book/show, are so creepy and weird. Another fantastic episode, just when you think nothing can top Angel locking everyone in to die, he fires everyone. To this day I don't really feel all that bad about what Angel did. When you associate with demons and vampires, as the people of Wolfram and Hart do, you kinda run the risk of not making it out alive

[@kingbrutusxxvi]

Drusilla and her creepy, lovely, demented, beautiful background music make me smile! Juliet was such a goldmine for this show. I guess it really does run in the genes! ... I do have one issue with this and it still bugs me all these years later. When a human becomes a vampire (on this show, at least) they die and a demon inhabits their body. The body is left with residual memories but the human is dead. So, when Darla was staked by Angel way back in "BTVS" that demon (and her human body) died. The demons don't go back to some "demonic waiting room" and sit around until another body becomes available. They die. When Darla is resurrected by Wolfram & Hart they bring back the human Darla. Therefore, when Drusilla kills Darla in the last episode a totally new and different demon possesses the body. Again, it may have Darla's residual memories but it is a new vampire otherwise. So, she should have only been as powerful as a "newborn". Nowhere near strong enough to give Angel any trouble, much less lift him up like a rag doll. She is no longer a 400-year-old vampire, she is a two-minute-old vampire. Just something that has always bothered me. If anyone responds, please keep in mind that Shan hasn't finished the series even though this is several months past her reaction of this episode. Cheers.

[@Ash-ii3nm]

i know this is an old comment, but here's my two cents if anyone else comes across it. what you have to remember is that the entire bloodline comes from the master, essentially one of the most powerful vampires to ever live & every vampire from this bloodline is part of an elite few (which is partially why the whirlwind were able to become the worst vampires in history). dru is still a part of that bloodline, so darla is again sired as one of the stronger, more powerful vampires. if you remember back to when angelus crawled out of his grave, he was almost instantly pure evil, which may be partly to do with this. i also think part of what made darla and angelus so dangerous was the time they had together to perfect their skills - re-sired darla still has all these memories so should theoretically know her own strength and how to use it. it makes sense that the new darla would be powerful, but also from the show's perspective its probably best to just overlook it as opposed to having a weak and whingey darla for a few episodes lol.

[@Kentrc11]

1:43 -1:56 Huh. You just bought up a great what-if for the Angel Series: What-if Angel called Willow to give Darla a soul after Drusilla sired her? My guess is she would have settled on being a part-timer at first for the Angel Team like Gwen Raiden or Groosalugg. Drusilla would have eventually been ensouled as well by Willow since the spell worked for Darla. Darla would still be into being a mythic mate with Angel, visions from The Powers That Be would be handled a lot quicker with 2-3 ensouled vampire champions, & Connor would have been born sooner, but this time around the Angel Team would have been in less of a race-against-time because there would be no Holtz to interfere & someone (let's say Fred) would have suggested a C-section for Darla. With Angel & Darla co-parenting Connor, Holtz would have not taken Connor to Quor'toth, Jasmine would have not been birthed by Cordelia, Lilah would be running Wolfram & Hart instead of the Angel Team, & the Circle of the Black Thorn would have still been the instrument for the Senior Partners while being more elusive to Angel Investigations.

[@hellox49]

Darla is so crazily loveable

[@mafxarr8776]

Drusilla is my all time favorite vampire followed by Spike.

[@angelacrobat7332]

When willow cursed Angel back in Buffy Season 2, the curse was specifically only for him, and no one else. That’s why it can’t be done. That specific curse was conjured up by the gipsies as punishment for Angel. I’m sure she could of been rein souled by someone or something else, but that specific curse would not work on Darla.

[@matth1589]

One of my all time favourite episodes of tv.

[@MitchellPorter2025]

I admit it, the wine cellar scene is a personal favorite.

[@daveangels]

dru's so magnificient in her insanity!

[@russellward4624]

I love what Drew is wearing.

[@darthducky7002]

It’s just a slayer test designed by the council. If they survive they’ll be stronger for it.

[@ghouling1111]

Anyone wonder how Angel got into the house?

[@willscorner8423]

These vampire face prosthetics from Buffy / Angel, you can buy them on amazon. Appliance is very easy, how about wearing one for Angel series finale or Halloween? Would be great to see a vampire S. , curious how you would look with it🤪😅😃

[@havok6280]

I love when this show goes dark... shades of grey are so much more interesting than black and white... I do love Dru's crazy ass... Also I love how this show uses flashbacks to foreshadow character returns...

[@jamaicaqueensking1]

This is what i call his Archangel phase

[@addiletsplay1996]

But like literally right after they say their the only things standing between Angel and darkness..then he say he knows and then fires them.. (I’m watching the episodes the first time aswell so I haven’t seen past this) so does that mean he wants to go dark?

[@12chapin]

I told you, you wouldn't want Darla as a vampire again.

[@ejermhd7765]

Drusilla, theres fool for love, then the Angel episode right after I forget what its called but drus like I COULD BE YOUR MUMMY, and wow ok her siring her is what she meant.

[@lowbudgetcomicsthings7068]

Dru is my fav vampire of all time

[@JaymaFan]

AAAAhhh things are gonna get dark now!!!!!

[@robinschicha4712]

Yes, Vampire has a lot of Motherproblems. Dracula called the three Woman in his castle his daughters. And NO ONE knows what he is meaning. Creepy.

[@rnbnatl]

Dru is crazy, in a River sort of way.

[@astridramea2714]

People who debate about the moral implications of Angel letting Dru and Darla kill those lawyers are missing the most important part. THERE WERE NOT JUST LAWERS INSIDE THAT CELLAR . There were innocent people in there. All +ones and the CATERING STUFF. They were innocent and he condemned them to horrible and violent death.

[@jacobesparza116]

Amazing reaction

[@thomasparker46]

Glad you're enjoying buffy and Angel 😇 best written shows ever. Another show you should check out is pretty little liars very adictive viewing nothing will touch the greatnes of Buffy but it's a fun ride.?

[@jimmy2k4o]

Angel letting D&D eat these (more evil than normal) lawyers feels good, but it’s wrong. It’s the classic “two wrong don’t make a right” It could have easily provoked W&H to take revenge on Angel or his friends. Violence and revenge are a never ending cycle, where each rotation gets more extreme and painful than the previous one. There another old saying “when you’re seeking revenge on someone, dig two graves. One for them and one for yourself” In life there are many choices to be made. In my limited life experience the harder choice, the less emotionally satisfying choice, the choice you don’t want to make is usually the right choice. Saving these lawyers would have been right, maybe a couple of them would be inspired by Angel saving them despite their enmity, and they would change their life for the better. Maybe he would have saved their souls as well as their lives. Remind me who was it in this show that made a big deal about saving souls as well as lives…….. We might have enjoyed watching this but this was not “angel” thing to do. Just shows how far W&H pushed him with the Darla plan. Angel is still part human after all. I feel this was a human decision not a demonic one.

[@keirawilliams2450]

So Darla is Angles mummy and then Angle is Drew’s daddy and drew is Spike and Darlas mummy and that Darla is still also Drew’s grand mummy but also her baby

[@apulrang]

I am remembering now that when I first saw this season, I liked it a lot, but it also confused me. I mean the actual plot ... who was trying to do what to whom, and why. Some of that’s intentional, but I also think maybe they tried to jam in just a few too many twists. Still an amazing story, and the performances are stellar. But if you are at all confused by the back and forth of things, I think it’s understandable.

[@jazalinerivera6210]

The birth of Archangel