Angels & Demons (10/10) Movie CLIP - Science and Faith (2009) HD

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CLIP DESCRIPTION:
Langdon (Tom Hanks) receives the "Diagramma Veritatis" and the church ordains a new Pope.
FILM DESCRIPTION:
Angels and Demons re-teams director Ron Howard and star Tom Hanks for the sequel to their international blockbuster adaptation of Dan Brown's novel The Da Vinci Code. Although the book Angels and Demons was written before the novel The Da Vinci Code, the movie transpires after the events of the earlier movie. Hanks stars as professor Robert Langdon, the most respected symbologist in the United States, who uses his knowledge in order to decode a symbol on the skin of a murder victim. The clues put him on the trail of an international conspiracy involving the Catholic Church. Ewan McGregor and Ayelet Zurer also star in the Sony Pictures production.
CREDITS:
TM & © Sony (2009)
Cast: Tom Hanks, Marc Fiorini, Armin Mueller-Stahl, Ayelet Zurer
Director: Ron Howard
Producers: Dan Brown, John Calley, William M. Connor, Anna Culp, Brian Grazer, Todd Hallowell, Ron Howard, Ute Leonhardt, Kathleen McGill, Marco Valerio Pugini, Louisa Velis
Screenwriters: David Koepp, Akiva Goldsman, Dan Brown
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[@amunra8806]

“Religion is flawed. Because man is flawed. All men. Including this one” This gets me every time

[@sandippaul468]

The words I wanted to hear my entire life.

[@acoustic5738]

is no justification for all the damage made by the catolic church over 2 milenia. get out¡¡

[@hannahvillalon8765]

Yeah because there are some so called people of God who's conscience and mind is not as pure as they think it is

[@SeizureGman]

That's my issue with religion it would be easy to dismiss religion as nothing but evil but that's the problem it isn't. Yes some of the most evil acts in history and prob future and now are committed in the name of various many religions not one religion can claim to be clean. Yet some of our biggest acts of compassion are carried out by those who believe or by religious orders the monk orders in England for example back in the dark ages were often the closest thing to social and community care. It's why religion is a mixed bag for me I want it to be dismissed but it also helps provide a lot of moral courage to many

[@jasonb9562]

@@SeizureGmanexactly. I don’t put much stock in religion itself. But it has been used for abominable things but has also created things of incredible beauty and love. It just depends on the person.

[@hothotheat3000]

The Carmalengo’s voice is so soothing. I really like this final conversation, that the question of science vs faith isn’t 100% solved, but that Robert’s faith may have been slightly restored, if it existed at all.

[@yannick245]

Soothing German accent, a little like Werner Herzog

[@poopsiepop4179]

He was raised catholic

[@morbius109]

Armin Mueller-Stahl. He does indeed have a voice both soothing and gentle. That man could read the phone book and I’d enjoy listening to him.

[@shadowbeast2276]

I think it does exist for him. At the very least through his scholarly work. He's probably not religious in the traditional sense but does believe.

[@CrowTRobot-ni7zu]

Armin Mueller-Stahl also plays Juror #4 (the calm, logical one) in the late 90s remake of "12 Angry Men." Brilliant portrayal.

[@anthonyravenda4178]

I know this was just a movie but the last words of the Camerlengo sent chills up my spine ...

[@Mordal1222]

Of course they did.

[@nuclearstevex4516]

I feel the same when she said, religion is flawed, but only because a man as flawed, all men, including this one. This film is GREAT. Probably my favorite

[@joemirotta1242]

All men are flawed but it doesn’t mean god doesn’t love us less

[@tommkuran6185]

Me too, I can see it time and time again..

[@daisy19]

When the new Pope walks out and opens his arms to the crowd, the choral music begins to play and I get goosebumps every time.

[@sooryasankar2549]

Omg gurl samee....

[@jeffreymiller6847]

Yes but I was really rooting for Ewan McGregor to be the new pope

[@TheFanboy19]

"Religion is flawed, but only because men are flawed... all men."

[@matthewmccallion3311]

Matthew 16:18 "Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means 'rock'), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it." The popes are the apostolic successors of Peter, the rock upon which Christ built His Church. The word "pope" simply comes from a word meaning "father", and it's not even the actual title of the position. The Pope's official title is "Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles (i.e. Peter), Supreme Pontiff (meaning "priest" or "builder of bridges") of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God".

[@4stro6oy]

Science is flawed, but only because men are flawed.

[@jonathangandara109]

Patrick Miguel M. Andrade The gnostic sects denied the importance of a clerical hierarchy. The Catholic Church certainly did not evolve from the motley Gnostic groups, in fact the Church decried them. Additionally, it should be noted that the lifespan of people in The first century could not have been over 60 and the majority of people were uneducated and could not write. The entire New Testament was originally written in Koine Greek but the apostles and Jews spoke a different language called Aramaic. It is extraordinarily unlikely that the poor illiterate fisherman that make up the apostles could have had the funds required to learn how to write fluent Greek as well as it was done in the NT. The earliest texts are the undisputed Pauline Epistles which would be Thessalonians and corinthians and some others. But the majority of the NT was not written by the name we have ascribed to them or that found on them. For instance, the Gospel of John was not written by the apostle John who was the youngest apostle at year 33 CE, Christ’s death year, because the Gospel was written in the 90s CE. People did not live that long no matter how young he was. The history of the assembling of the Bible, especially the New Testament, is very important in its interpretation.

[@oncesavedalwayssaved240]

@@matthewmccallion3311 And where does it say we should pray to Mary and the Apostles?

[@thebutchernassa8384]

@@4stro6oy The difference is science admits to its flaws while religion claims to be perfect when it's just as flawed

[@glenn71144]

"Oh my son of course he did". Gets me everytime.

[@thomasvleminckx]

as if saying it makes it so

[@KamiTenchi]

@@thomasvleminckx Words have power!

[@thomasvleminckx]

Reality doesn't care about words. According to your logic, I can say "of course the world was created by the flying spaghetti monster", and you'd have to accept it as truth "because I said so". No. That's BS logic.

[@Justforthefifteen]

@@thomasvleminckx have you ever considered that truly Religious people have gone already gone through those same thoughts, questions and arguments you so are so ready to repeat? “Spaghetti monsters” etc? And those people have decided that believing in the spaghetti monster is what’s really worth in the life? My point being: you might thing you have discovered the truth about things and decided that all that about God and Religion is nonsense. But meanwhile, truly Religious people have been all the way there and back. At the end, you can talk about being “realistic” all you want. Until you realize that must be something beyond your pitiful reality. Something so powerful that it’s impossible to ignore…

[@farrel_ra]

@@Justforthefifteen Mantap bang

[@derworfnet]

„You will counsel him wisely.“ „I’m an old man, I will counsel him briefly.“ Armin Mueller Stahl is an incredible presence in all his movies, all of them, including this one.

[@snypa-ck7hn]

nerd gasm

[@OsamaBinLooney]

"religion is flawed, but only because man is flawed, including this one" love that line XD

[@rickeygollihare9167]

It's a simple truth we forget in this day and age that religion is flawed because man is flawed all men and when I mean all men I mean all mankind regardless of gender especially in this time when politics and religion are interwoven and used to justify evil and sin

[@OsamaBinLooney]

​@@rickeygollihare9167 mankind has ALWAYS meant all humans, not just men, the PC movement has gotten way out of control :) people are looking for enemies where none exist, because these people thrive on divisiveness and conflict

[@kemj9]

@@OsamaBinLooney it’s fine that they are getting out of control….they are pushing me closer and closer to God cauz he is my only coping mechanism in the this dark nihilistic world

[@dip.2271]

After a failed attempt by Obi Want to become the next leader of the Jedi which also resulted in his death, Luke becomes the new leader of the Jedi.

[@jbreezy101]

Interesting. Love it

[@gabrielandjavierpinales3689]

Ignore Disney. Luke became a new type of Jedi and reform the Jedi ways.

[@jugnumann5720]

The speech on religion vs science was the highlight of the novel. It shouldn't have been shortened in the movie. It would have given a boost to the movie.

[@eveline9187]

What was the speech?

[@rebelridwan21]

But movie has limits

[@Mr.Tin_88]

0:55 I love when Vittoria walks in. I simply love Vittoria character. Ayelet Zurer is simply amazing.

[@benhawkes2752]

When Pope Luke walks out to the crowd I always get shivers!

[@yannick245]

What a feeling that must be!

[@toddsmitts]

In the books, the events of this film actually preceded "The Da Vinci Code", but I actually prefer this story coming after. We get the weight of that backstory when Langdon comes in here and a bit of an understanding at the end.

[@naimhussain6013]

oooh that makes sense as to why he kneels at the end of the Da Vinci Code and seems like such a believer.

[@ignisardenti2486]

I was confused why he wasnt with Sophie cuz in D Vinci Code, they ultimately *dated* at the ending

[@VuTran-mf7kj]

@@ignisardenti2486 Langdon was kinda like James Bond. He dated with a different girl in each book.

[@kandalaparthiv7453]

I am a HINDU every line in this scene touches me , its not about religion its about path which we choose "OH MY SON OF COUESE HE DID" is the best line ever

[@mistersinister5494]

I always love this scene purely because of Tom Hanks' reaction when he's gifted the deagramma by Cardinal Strauss.

[@NishidaTegaru_nZk]

"Make sure, it finds its way home."

[@Roddie62]

In all this movie, one of the best CGIs tho. St Peter's Square is spot on, the Basilica and the recreation of the Sistine Chapel too, combining stage set and CGI. True piece of work, or art!

[@dingenmetminecraft2169]

The CGI inside the Pantheon when Prof Langdon and Dr Vetra enter the rotunda is a bit shoddy. Love this movie though, one of my favorite action thrillers.

[@nickcanfield6038]

How Langdon managed to **not** burst into tears from that incredible gift is completely beyond me.

[@EndlessSummer888]

In reality, that document would never leave the Archives, ever. You want to use a document in there, you need to jump through a whole bunch of hoops and then if you ARE granted access, you're only allowed in there a maximum of 2 hours with only paper and pencils. And if you need more than that... you gotta do the whole process again.

[@gorannajdeski]

I am not Chatholic... but this ending scene every time makes me cry...

[@NECROLORDZ]

When she ripped the page off, I could feel my soul screaming.

[@mutiyangpilingbabae9207]

Same here! I really hate that part

[@CactusCowboyDan]

It’s just paper…

[@ManBehindThePencil]

Like Langdon I was like “ yeah what the hell…..”

[@tigranmedici1993]

ARE YOU INSANE????...

[@chaosdimension6433]

Im an atheist but Cardinal Strauss words moved me

[@vikrantkulkarni1241]

That's because the actor who played him is a terrific artist.

[@el_chico1313]

if just every world leader had this little portion of humbleness and modesty

[@calmondey4214]

True, this whole world would be different

[@vikrantkulkarni1241]

The dialogue the acting the background score the lighting is Pitch Perfect extraordinary scene

[@dianariverjackson5123]

By far the better ending than the book in this case. The interaction between Langdon and Camerlengo is astonishing because you can for a split second just see how affected Langdon was by his words. Although driven by academically knowledge and rationality, you can see it in his eyes that he almost let his own faith to step aside and absorb the words that was told to him by the Camerlengo.

[@sammyyiieiieieieie]

I just finished watching this and I find the ending way better, too. One instance when the adaptation is better than the book hehe.

[@eagleone08]

I totally agree with you, sir. The book's plot was disappointing in the ending. Also it's a heavy anticlerical novel. The movie instead suggest a reconciliation between the church and the atheist Langdon, which is touched by the last words of cardinal Strauss and by the events happened that night in Rome.

[@dianariverjackson5123]

@@eagleone08 I am a girl you idiot

[@farrel_ra]

@@eagleone08 agree

[@DogeickBateman]

@@eagleone08 I lost all interest in the book because midway through the end it just became an acid trip+reasons you listed earlier

[@stevenli4576]

I thought the illuminati will send him a note or email to thanking Robert for clearing their name at the end.

[@sevengedafterlife9670]

Peter langdon.. plangdon

[@starset4life175]

Tbh I thought the same too when I first watched this movie

[@JohnMartin-oh6bf]

What a gift he gives him…the one text he values above all,and he lets him keep it until the day he dies.

[@txcrix9236]

I absolutely loved Mueller-Stahl in this movie. His expressions, tone of voice etc. were excellent. A very moving end to a very fascinating movie.

[@Kythos]

There has been many Marks and Johns. There wasn't any Francis.

[@forrestgumball]

Smartteaser192 Pope Keith

[@emiliobello2429]

Until now

[@LGranthamsHeir]

Should have been ''many Piuses and Johns'' IMHO.

[@cakebear9534]

There has been many Marks and Johns. There wasn’t any Judases.

[@darthbiker2311]

There has been many Marks and Johns, never a Jimmy...

[@NiVi192]

Armin Müller-Stahl is sublime in this scene and all the others he's in! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@seikibrian8641]

And now it's, "There have been many Johns and Pauls, but never a Francis."

[@carlazes5528]

This ending was better then the one from the book. Hated the romance parts, just unnecessary.

[@kabouterwesley83]

Had the same with the da Vinci code

[@juliohsb9754]

@@kabouterwesley83 fr? Robert and sophie?

[@kabouterwesley83]

@@juliohsb9754 maybe it's because I read the book after I saw the movie. When in the final chapter Robert kissed Sophie, I couldn't imagine Hanks kissing Tautou.

[@juliohsb9754]

@@kabouterwesley83 i dont read the novel, so there is this sophie's grandmother, is she actually her grandmother by blood? And Why saint claire? Does that mean jesus last name also saint claire?

[@kabouterwesley83]

@@juliohsb9754 in the book Sauniere is her actual grandfather, rather than just her guardian. In the book Sophie finds out that her brother and grandmother (Sauniere's wife) are alive and live near Rosslyn chapel. After the assault that killed her parents, the grandparents decided to split up and each take care of one child. Also, I'm pretty sure last names weren't a thing when Jesus was around. In the book it is implied that his offspring married into French royalty, which is where the St Clair name originated.

[@OTW18]

Everyone plays their role in this world, even an Atheist.

[@Tacet137]

lol

[@RyanSmith-wo2pi]

. Thanks Vlad

[@yannick245]

Why wouldn't they? Most Nobel price recipients are atheists. I reckon they contribute a lot to the world/society.

[@neilcaezar306]

@@yannick245 actually, those numbers are lower. only 20% of all Nobel prize recipients identified themselves as Atheist, many of them won the Nobel prize in literature so if they were to like magically disappear from history, they'd make just slightly small changes in history. I don't have anything against atheists, just against misinformation.

[@yannick245]

@@neilcaezar306 I don't talk about the literature or peace prize.

[@bryanjamesdawson3220]

“There’s been many Marks and Johns” There’s only been ONE Pope Mark ever.

[@neilcaezar306]

yea, most likely a oversight error. a better example would be, Gregory or Benedict.

[@McCullogh]

Armin Mueller-Stahl is a fantastic actor.

[@PrawilnaMordka]

He had hilarious role as taxi driver in "Night on earth" movie🙂

[@sbadrinarayanan]

2:19. The best scene of the whole movie

[@ladytheaemuhinomura]

Looks like : thank you for saving my life

[@sbadrinarayanan]

@@ladytheaemuhinomura respect for brethren be it a believing or non believing one.

[@KamiTenchi]

This scene is beyond words.

[@originalthanos]

I wonder when science and faith will work together to evolve humankind beyond limits ...

[@calmondey4214]

THAT would be beautiful!

[@yannick245]

Never, they contradict each other. The catholic church is just a master of adaption and bending dogmata. I'm not talking about spirituality but the institution of church and religion.

[@mikemata9111]

Well God gave us science for various reasons

[@youdontknowme2913]

That's some warhammer 40k motivation right there

[@suchbullsh1tbefore893]

Warhammer 40k Imperium of Man

[@cybernautadventurer]

Is it weird that this brought a tear to my eye?

[@aditimishra9900]

Not at all... :)

[@bman_2024]

Langdon is a superhero, he always saves the day. Why? He has brains ............

[@xnotjustadreamx]

Oh the music here... my heart.

[@kuribayashi84]

„You will counsel him wisely.“ „I’m an old man, I will counsel him briefly.“

[@we_are_sum_stranger_9617]

The Camerlengo was an Excellent character!

[@issyismusic]

Left out the best part of the music!

[@philippdf]

issytunes Agreed

[@gugussetiawan541]

When the new Pope turn around I get goosebumbs. He's alive!

[@alohajoe98]

It's said the new Pope took the name Luke, but the papal ring clearly reads "Pius".

[@yannick245]

@Jude H No, that would bei Lucius, I guess... I don't know how this got upvoted.

[@yannick245]

@Jude H It's not a translation.

[@yannick245]

@Jude H Nothing is being translated in this scene. You just made a wrong translation of the name Pius. Then you made a correct translation of what is written on the ring. Since latin is the official language of the Vatican there is no translated word inprinted on that ring. You are the one bringing translations into this....

[@kabouterwesley83]

@@yannick245 Lucas, not Lucius.

[@yannick245]

@@kabouterwesley83 I was referring to a comment by @Jude H , not OP. I don't remember what exactly what he/she wrote but I know that Lucas is Latin for Luke

[@Duecemoney1]

Robert's answer earlier in the movie is my exact feelings of faith. My mind tells me I don't understand it. My heart tells me I'm not meant to. Yet life has afforded me small fleeting moments like the one Robert has above. The moment where you question it all. Only to know it's better left alone. We are not meant to understand. Until we arrive.

[@pumismontana]

Oh my son... of course He did

[@mji71]

2:25 ... the beauty and wonder of Western Civilization thanks be to God.

[@taqiyasir8086]

Amen

[@nahianshabab724]

Lol

[@maryanneayumi9594]

Yeah, after the western destroyed other countries by invading them, raising their flags in other people’s land, forcing their religion, plundering their resources, erasing their identity, and enslaving them.

[@johanalpizar4703]

@@maryanneayumi9594 like other civilizations were any better.

[@yannick245]

The catholic church is called the "world church".

[@malibustacy3606]

Here I was hoping Ayelet Zurer would slip up and blurt out "his name is Kal, son of El, and he is forever beyond your reach."

[@5781juliandragon]

Love when he says.. Do o so gently

[@Nihilus_Outis]

It's one of the most underrated movies of the 21st century.

[@dianariverjackson5123]

one of the best movies IMO

[@ExAnimoPortugal]

Some great changes in the movie I believe, for the best.

[@andrenewcomb3708]

"Fellas, YOU called ME." And you recruited my mother to bring ME back to you for YOUR 'pleasures'.

[@diansyahapritama688]

02:30 While others were seriously watching this scene, me and my friend laughed for that pink panther part with the same location

[@davios9878]

I hate how they change the book endings, the book endings in this case and in the case of Inferno are so much superior.

[@EndlessSummer888]

This was one change that I liked. In the book, all 4 _preferiti_ die, and some other cardinal (mentioned over and over in the book) becomes pope. Which makes sense, but only if you read the book. But in the movie, that would be tricky to do, i think. I like how they saved one of them.

[@priscillaadam2920]

True but the A&D book ending needs not the romance part...

[@LGranthamsHeir]

I think there will be a pope named Luke in the near future, esp if he sees his mission is to heal the Church from all the problems it is facing today and also to promote a reconciliation between the Church and humanity.

[@yannick245]

Yeah, they even got a Francis I. Could be the start of a trend. Also stepping back from office can be a new trend.

[@smk3390]

im agnostic, i have many in my family including my own mother is was catholic, i have made comments that humans need religion to shelter their fragile minds, and while I still believe that. I understand the need to believe in something, I am not among those who does but I respect those who wish to believe in a god and a religion whether it be perfect or not.

[@fathermerrin6064]

The best scene in the movie..

[@museluvr]

The Cardinal spoke truth that everything is flawed.. we are ALL sinners, save one young girl whom bore the Savoir into this world. She was the perfection of God' creatures, the reason a part of Heaven fell because the Archangel in charge when it saw her did not want to share her, even with God. May God be with all, in this time, we NEED Him more then ever. And He is coming...

[@CactusCowboyDan]

Oh do shut up 🤫

[@timdewit6088]

There has been only one Pope Mark though, unless you count Coptic popes, in which case there were a couple more.

[@paullefur6213]

Best film ever.........

[@marvs8760]

Aye who's choppin' up onions

[@TheCoolProfessor]

Let's be honest. All this time you thought he was behind the entire conspiracy didn't you? YES YOU DID!!!!

[@kaylaroman9675]

Thanks Oskar

[@amal_i2161]

What is the background music used in this scene?

[@JGG222]

Hans Zimmer - Election by adoration

[@lordgoro]

Youll counsel him wisely? Im an Old man, ill counsel him briefly

[@kuldeepjain8642]

God I love you. No matter what religion you belong.

[@wolfofhell7548]

I have a friend of mine who is Catholic, and I identify as Astarü (Norse Paganism), and we get into, I wouldn't say argue, mostly debate on faith and how God would've needed help with Creation itself. The part where Straus says, "Religion is flawed, only because men is flawed, all men, including this one". That is the one thing that we agree on. Powerful words, no matter what subject.

[@kylebockstahler3406]

What song is playing as the Pope walks out?

[@JGG222]

Hans Zimmer - Election by adoration

[@MrFarkasOfficial]

2:18 for epicness

[@Kim-ss5bb]

Rome the most beautiful city in the world

[@yannick245]

Italy is the most beautiful country in the world! Greetings from Germany

[@jorgee3574]

incredible how some teenagers says he need some photos in Paris, instead of Italy

“CAT”-HO-LIC “DOG”-MA

[@nicbentulan]

Why isn't there a digital copy?

[@crossbilliam]

The ending was beautiful but if only it was jesus doing that to his people ❤️ from heaven

[@Justic3F0rA11]

Religion is flawed; But only because- man- is- flawed. 👏 I don’t know who wrote that, but well done.

[@josephpaolantonio7910]

You don't ever mess with the holy church

[@ThePlaton20]

How appropriate that the new Pope, who was a doctor in his life before cardinal, takes the name of Luke. As you are well aware, Luke was a doctor in the early Christian community in Jerusalem and accompanied the apostle Paul on many of his missionary journeys to Asia Minor and Greece. He obviously wrote the Gospel of Luke and the book of Acts, describing the rapid expansion of Christianity via the hand of Paul through the Roman Empire. As one historian put it this way: "When Paul and Luke ventured out from Jerusalem, the gospel they were taking with them would travel first by sea and then by roads. For the seas of the Mediterranean lead to the roads of Asia Minor, the roads of Asia Minor led to Greece, the roads of Greece lead to Rome, and the roads of Rome led to the whole world."

[@hollystarriddle4573]

Yes holy holds the Leonardo davinci codes

[@onlyonemrxonlyonemry306]

this is the reason why I don't believe in anything

[@aditanand959]

It is totally different from the book

[@thomasksatriagurkha7]

Fav movie

[@philippdf]

End song pls?

[@paulwagner688]

Lux Aeterna by Morten Lauridsen

[@philippdf]

@@paulwagner688 A bit late from my side, but thank you ^^

[@vennelavallabhaneni2382]

Dude, Langdon is given the brand of the Illuminati Diamond, not Galileo's book.

[@premabaul7570]

Perhaps the distortion of cosmology is the biggest secret of the Illuminati and so the Illuminati who made the film wanted to show this.. haha

[@vennelavallabhaneni2382]

@@premabaul7570 Distortion of cosmology? I don't think that's humanly possible, but I do agree that the maker might as well be Illuminatus.

[@asanoinio8100]

Did they not give Langdon the Illuminati diamond?

[@RyanSmith-wo2pi]

.

[@hollystar9234]

Holly star agin davis riddle all bible --for I don't know who trust Jack has mad my relationships and friendships his game

[@HollyRiddle-du4ls]

Yes I can decide every code in the bible

[@martinmanifold2241]

Many are called ..but few are chosen ...god chose professor robert langdon for the job .....PS. find robert langdon or jack reacher or luke skywalker or daniel jackson or the Doctor 😉

[@Skyman2901]

That crowd ain't compared to An Ed Sheeran outdoor gig

[@chetlim1353]

All movie

[@JerardAraza]

Kinilabutan ako. Wew. 🥶

[@hollystarriddle4573]

Vatican Pope the maps to Rome Asia minor a family registry within ain't a child sacrifice for our sins holly meaning holy

[@HollyRiddle-du4ls]

John angel

[@izzy_theog9658]

Every religions believed there's only one God.

[@louiemeister9646]

The Black Otaku no, not really no

[@ategabbysev2993]

Then tell me there many gods romans,persians,greeks,norse,india, ancient philippines,ancient africa,slavs have many different gods

[@Electricshrock]

Incredibly incorrect.

[@vincent-louissimoneau4436]

Fratelli e sorelle, buonasera

[@FullAfterburner]

Why can't it be science and faith?

[@Ed-jv3xu]

Of course he did

[@pornneliushubbard1967]

I believe science but when science can’t get the answers that’s when god comes in.

[@CactusCowboyDan]

God isn’t real so he doesn’t “come in”

[@generalsheperd5864]

​@@CactusCowboyDanHe is real who do you think created existance

[@CactusCowboyDan]

@@generalsheperd5864 1: Prove it 2: I don’t think anyone “created” existence. But you clearly do.

[@generalsheperd5864]

@@CactusCowboyDan 1: fatima miracle 2: do you think existence created itself? Like that childish "big bang" actually happened?

[@CactusCowboyDan]

@@generalsheperd5864 1: All I found in google about “fatima miracle” was a case of abnormal weather. Which proves nothing. So either elaborate or try again. 2: What I think is irrelevant. What I know is that we don’t know exactly how all of existence started. But at least the Big Bang theory does have tons of evidence behind it on how the universe began and works. You calling it “childish” doesn’t mean anything and is just you being clearly ignorant. 3: Now you answer a question from me; which god do you think is real?

[@user-pq5rn3kh5o]

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[@DaviRed_]

"oh my son, of course He did". I mean, Robert did found and protected Jesus Christ's heir, saved the Vatican, and stopped a plaugue that would've killed half of humanity.