Anglican Office Book and St. Bernard Breviary: Is One Better? (Vid i)

[@ConvincedCatholicism]

The way you pray the Venite is so comforting. Looking forward to the future videos

[@ma-mo]

Thank you for laying out such a persuasive rationale for continuing to gather prayer books. I'm sure i'll find myself repeating your arguments frequently. Anticipating your future videos on this topic.

[@dalecaldwell]

You are entirely welcome. One does what one can.

[@rogerterry3974]

Three great reasons to use a prayer book for daily prayers: 1. To keep a disciplined prayer life. 2. To be praying within “the communion of saints”, from the rising of the sun until the going down of the same, the name of the Lord shall be praised. 3. To pray with objectivity and not be entangled in the maze of our emotions! Thank you

[@jldrumm]

I needed to hear that lovely prayer. Thank you!

[@mikelilley]

Love your thoughts on the communion of saints during prayer. I often think of my brothers and sisters in Christ praying along with me.

[@philipguzman9321]

Alas, by your prior comments, you have already let us know which one you choose to the point that --- if I were a betting man --- I would know which one you will pick. . . Your thoughts on why to use a prayer book are wonderful and have added to my enthusiasm for using one.

[@WittgensteinsBeetle]

I'm a Melkite (Eastern Catholic) and I love your description of the Byzantine rite as "flamboyantly complicated." 😂

[@dalecaldwell]

My introduction to the Eastern Rites was from a Melkite book that I bought many years ago in the book store of the ROCOR cathedal in San Francisto.

[@Stevepsych22]

I love the way you say, "I get distracted (sip)...and find that the older I get..." 😊 I too appreciate being able to pray written prayers, well-hoaned prayers of saints over the centuries. Are you sure you are collecting prayer books, or is it a fetish? 😉🙂But seriously, do you have some kind way that guides which one do you select throughout the year, or do some end up collecting more dust than others, or perhaps just a feeling from day to day? I guess there's always, "Eenie, meenie, minie, Mo." Either way, I think its great and I enjoy seeing some of their contents.

[@HolyAdonis]

Despite it's complexity. I quite enjoy my 1979 book of common prayer and nrsv combo.

[@dalecaldwell]

It's nice that none of us are likely to be burned at the stake for our choices, and that we can talk to one another. (I used Howard Galley's Prayer Book Office for several years.

[@jackslapp9073]

​@@dalecaldwell. Praise God! If I had a penny for every time I have been called a heretic I could buy that Anglican office book.

[@jameshopkins7507]

I use prayer books and also collect them. Two of my favorites are the 1662 BCP - International Edition and the 1998 Manual of Prayer of the Pontifical North American College (Latin and English). Other beautiful non-Christian prayer books I enjoy are the 2022 Baha'i Prayer Book (BIC Edition), and the Rabbinical Council of America Edition of the ArtScroll Siddur 2004.

[@Steadfast-Lutheran]

It’s significant that the Book of Common Prayer has been approved (with minor edits) by both Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches; making the 1928 BCP the most truly “ecumenical” prayer book available today. As a Lutheran (and former Anglican), I also enjoy using it - both the 1928 and 2019 editions of the BCP.

[@Sumabus]

I was not aware that it had been approved by the Eastern Orthodox, could you provide me some more information about this?

[@Steadfast-Lutheran]

@@Sumabus The Antiochian Archdiocese publishes the “Western Rite Service Book,” which is essentially the Book of Common Prayer adapted for Orthodox use. To my knowledge, ROCOR also has a Western Rite.

[@Steadfast-Lutheran]

@@crossvilleengineering1238 Stronger belief in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, and the doctrine of Baptismal Regeneration.

[@DrGero15]

I didn't think the St. Bernard Breviary was available yet, is it able to be purchased right now?

[@Steadfast-Lutheran]

No, it’s not available yet. It’ll be released in April.

[@benjefferies8531]

Not till April 1st :)

[@Steadfast-Lutheran]

@@benjefferies8531 I can’t wait!

[@mikecraig2322]

How did Dale get one?

[@Steadfast-Lutheran]

@@mikecraig2322 According to the Bernard Breviary website, Dale was a financial supporter of the project; and thus he received a pre-release copy 😀

[@paulmclennan7465]

Thank you for this video. Have you used the St Alban’s Breviary?

[@dalecaldwell]

Yes. Both the trial edition which I was given nearly two years ago, which was wonderful but clumsy to hold, and the new edition, which I have been using since it came.

[@paulmclennan7465]

@@dalecaldwell Could you do a video reviewing that as well?

[@dalecaldwell]

Oops. I thought I had used it but I confused it with a different book.. sorry.

[@kvlteacher5911]

"I am a lazy old fart and easily distracted." I too.

[@AmericanShia786]

Leave it to Cranmer and Coverdale to bridge the gaps between Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and The Anglican Reformation! I look forward to see which book is your choice to rule them all. I say, give it to Samwise because he has mastered his pride and isn't effected by the power of the ring. Oops, getting my stories confused. 🙂 I think its going to depend upon whether one wants use an office based on early Modern English, or contemporary Modern English. Another consideration would be how many hours one wants to pray in one day. Both books are not difficult to use. Even a Heretic can figure them out. 😁 I'm interested in what you think of the extra sections in the back of the Saint Bernard Breviary. Even if one doesn't practice private confession, examination of conscience daily and before receiving the Sacraments is a necessity. Its a difficult choice, but I believe one would benefit from either book. Which one is best on a desert island where one can have only one book? I am looking forward to your comments and observations.

[@abalint8097]

Try the Divine Office or the Liturgy of the Hours

[@dalecaldwell]

I have tried the LOH, and I just don't like the translations. I probably should try the Ordinariate's book. I do have their version of the 1928 BCP Morning and Evening Prayer.

[@mikecraig2322]

Where did you get the St Bernard breviary? web site says April 1st release date.

[@dalecaldwell]

I was an early supporter. Money well invested. I just wish I had shared the opportunity more broadly.

[@christianf5131]

I don’t suppose you could crack that Lancelot Andrewes open for a review? I’ve been wondering how it looks

[@dalecaldwell]

I could. And I will. Is next week soon enough?

[@christianf5131]

@@dalecaldwell you should feel free to take as long as you need. I’m not terribly drawn towards Orthodoxy anymore for conversion, so it’s more of a for curiosities sake thing.

[@dalecaldwell]

@christianf5131 I don't think orthodoxy has any graces beyond the wonders of my own patrimony, but I am grateful that here at the edge of nowhere there is at least one church, St. Herman of Alaska, that still worships the Lord in the beauty of holiness.