Angry Photographer: Nikkor 80-200 2.8 VS. Tamron 70-200 2.8 VC. Which is best? BOTH ARE

Angry Photographer: Nikkor 80-200 2.8 VS. Tamron 70-200 2.8 VC. Which is best? BOTH ARE

[@natas779]

I brought the 80 200 based on your lens recommendation.It arrived in the mail today and man the build quality of this thing is blowing my mind.So far I find the AF plenty fast enough and its dam sharp! This has got to be the best buy out there .Thanks for the tip!

[@MrK67017]

You said the 80-200 has "prime-like qualities"....You are so right. It is an impressive lens for the price. I took a few photos at a college football game this past weekend with it and I was impressed. I told you about me dropping it a few months ago too. No issues afterwards. It's a beast.

[@mark_nz]

I got the Tamron a month ago on your recommendation. Yes I probably should have got the 80-200 for pure image quality but I made an informed decision thanks to your previous videos :) I gota say, I am blown away by the tamron. I can sit at 2.8 and snap away happy and i'm getting some seriously sharp photos to my eye. Glad I didn't have to spend the big bucks on the Nikkor 70-200 vrII and I don't plan on it now no matter how much coin I have spare.

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+mark thode well hell yes!! Tamron 70 200 is one of 2 Tammys that SPANK the Nikkor same-lens.

[@maximilian1867]

The Nikon 80-200 has sharp edged aperture blades and therefore creates amazing sunstars. That is defintely something I miss on all newer lenses and the reason for me keeping the old Nikkor. The drawback on the 80-200, are the long and the short end: they are not sharp. You can use this lens from about 90-185mm wide open. Shooting with 5.6 and above minimizes that problem. I use it mainly for portraits and swimming competitions with f2.8-f4. It‘s fast enough for that kind of sport. Everything faster won‘t work. But the sunstars make it a keeper and it‘s really sharp, even on f2.8 🙂.

[@petewylde6592]

Thanks for all your insight man. I purchased the push/pull AF-D version of the 80-200 for $375 shipped with lens-hood and case. I tried it out today, it´s a beast and heavier than a blunderbuss. My right arm is sore but my heart is happy. Couldn´t find a used 2 ring version for the life of me but i´m sure this one will keep me happy for many years to come.

[@roshaanhb1675]

FOCUS BREATHING! minimal on the 80-200mm 2.8D nikon, prominent in 70-200mm tamron and nikons please let us know if you get to compare that to confirm

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

you cannot use the 80 200 close in

[@roshaanhb1675]

that was quick. After seeing first hand that your advice is very accurate. I am going to get either a 60mm 2.8D, 100mm tokina 2.8 or 200mm f4 next

[@TheSoulJAH777]

Ever since I first watched your video on the Tokina 100mm atx pro, and purchased it per your recommendation,I no longer seek info anywhere else on KZbin. You truly KNOW what you talk about!!! I also now own the nikkor 105mm f2.5,and I just purchased the 80-200 F2.8 today for $250 in mint condition. I am happier than a kid in a candy store!!! Watching out for a 24-85mm 3.5-4.5 next. I am also finding myself loving the feel of manually focusing my lenses,so manual lenses are in my sight now. Forgot to mention...I also bought a nikkor 70-210 f4. I love all these lenses!!! Thnk you so much!!!!!!!

[@ares4love]

I just bought a minty 80-200mm F2.8 Nikon lens after watching your recommendations and I love it, especially it's dynamic range and sharpness. Thanks for the commitment and time you put in this videos. All the best!

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+George V Haaaaaaaaaaa!!! thank you ......remember that lens is NOT meant for close focusing, otherwise theres backfocus issues nikon warns peeps of this, no CLOSE IN shooting is meant on that lens

[@ares4love]

I target mostly outside portraits with this 80-200mm so will not be the case for close in's. I finally have a decent tele for my FF and my old 80-400mm is paired now with my old d7000 and grip for Danube's Delta when I will relax between fishing (spinning) and shoot birds as I never tried wild life, hopefully I got something like this: www.google.ro/search?q=pasari+delta+dunarii&biw=1621&bih=843&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiozOCA_8DLAhUiyXIKHZpEC5oQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1.58&gws_rd=ssl#imgrc=_ Thanks & Cheers!

[@KeenanModica]

What is the minimum distance? I bought this lens a few weeks back and I can be 10 feet from subject and it still backfocuses

[@KeenanModica]

Disregard, I see that you stated 25 feet.

[@nimesh83]

Hi...is this lens still holding good ?

[@ishootbvi9749]

I use my 80-200 2.8 to shoot watersports - kiteboarding, windsurfing, and regattas. also for weddings and portraits from time to time. it's a pretty heavy piece of machinery but it is a marvelous lens. too bad I kinda damaged my copy which is really really old by the way because when you are out on the water especially when it's really windy, you will be bobbing up and down constantly on your boat and your camera equipment which are precision machines are taking all that beating. now the lens does not focus properly at 200mm but remains supreme at 80-135mm. needs to send it in for repairs but can't find the time right now :(

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+ishoot bvi gear-interlock drive issue getting it out to max, that makes perfect sense and a fairly cheap repair :)-

[@Ark7760]

ohhh boy, out of all the AIS lenses I own, my 80-200 F/4.5 always delivers, never taken a bad photo with that thing.

[@Alex-sr3ez]

I love my Nikon 80-200 (AF-D). Sharp, great bokeh. I’ll never get rid of it.

[@Ptidoudou]

One of the good things watching your videos is learning new words (french is my native language). Now, i know whats is the meaning of "anchovy". I learned "crotch" in one of your previous video 😳. Very "schoolish" ( does it work ? Take educational if not)content. Keep up the good work. Love your channel man !

[@evanthonypaglinawan]

Hi Angry Photographer, i would like to thank you for the reviews on the nikon 80-200 f2.8D...I followed your advice and i secured a copy of that lens...all i can say is that you are right and its really a phenomenal piece of lens..the sharpness and colors are awesome, i am glad I followed your advice Angry Photographer, more power more lens. Cheers

[@Nitro4x4]

Never thought about the 80-200mm NOT having a lens hood. Now that you mention it...never saw one in any ad. However, I guess I was lucky...when I got mine, the seller included a HB-7 hood, and it fits perfect. Same crinkle finish as well...so its a good combination if you want a hood. I recommend YES...get this hood!! Its the TITS! Hehehe

[@DrewofDonuts]

I don't know if I like you, or hate you. I definitely love you though. Thanks for all the help, honestly. Just picked up an 80-200 AF-S in gorgeous condition with a 90 day warranty for $730.

[@Santiago.Ortiz.H]

this guy scares the shit out of me, but he knows his glass

[@richardhaw9757]

has nikon fixed the back focusing issue of the 80-200 on close focusing distances? people say that this only happens on digital bodies (DX). but i got it on my D700 as well 5-6 years ago.

[@richardhaw9757]

+Richard Haw sold it and never looked back

[@isobitis69]

+Richard Haw I don't think they did, my copy manufactured not too long ago does the same on D700 but only at 200mm and afaik every 2 ring 80-200 AF-D does. Bad thing is I realized it the hard way, after trying to "macro" a chameleon and saw the mess it did at post. Tried to fine tune it but it didn't work.

[@richardhaw9757]

+isobitis69 that sucks. i wonder what was causing it

[@jamesonnorth]

Hey Ken, what are your thoughts on the AFS version of the 80-200 2.8? I have the AF-D, and I see the AFS every once in a while at Roberts (I'm local) and I've been thinking about trading in my AF-D for the AF-S if it's considerably faster autofocus and if the glass is indeed similar enough. I've used the 70-200 VR and I don't like it, so I'm looking at the older one.

[@kyfeam]

sweet.. just bought the 80-200mm the other day used for $600.. was using the Nikon 70-300mm f5.6-6.3 VR but wanted a prime zoom and didnt want to spend on the 70-200mm VR2.. took your advise on the Tokina 100mm and man you really know your shit.. was the best purchase i have ever made.. and now you recommend the 80-200 and i got it right again! you da man! on a side note.. there is an issue with the 80-200 involving the M/A switch cracking or not switching.. i hope i dont have that issue down the road.. but i also heard it's a fairly easy fix.. keep kickin ass my brotha!

[@kyfeam]

+Shawn Turnbull lol screwed up the f stops on the 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 my bad!

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+Shawn Turnbull Shhhhhhweeeeeeeeet !!!!!!!!! IS YOURS CRACKED???? you didnt say. It is easy to fix but it should never happen to begin with people break them by cranking on the M/A without pushing in the silver button ! REMEMBER!!!!!!! NEVER EVER EVER HAVE YOUR CAMERA IN AF AND YOUR LENS IN MF !!!!........ then the camera will be trying to drive a LOCKED lens. and that IZ NOT GOOD!!!! :(

[@kyfeam]

+Theoria Apophasis thanks for the info! i shoot manual anyways.. i'll get my 80-200mm tomorrow.. but thanks for the reason for the crack issue.. as they never tell you how it happens.. very excited to try my new prime out!

[@dzordano]

Can u give us any info about Tokina AT-X Pro AF 80-200mm F2.8. THX

[@alexandergomes3317]

They're next to impossible to find....fantastic lens

[@PantherSpawn]

Is this the macro version of the tamron? The a001?

[@andremata9197]

Hi, I recently discovered your vlogs, and I realized immediately that you have a vast experience in terms of material and repair, I bought a nikkor 80-200 f2.8 push pull for a very low amount, 250 $ on ebay, it is in a cosmetic condition impeccable focuses well, no fungus or scratches but I discovered today when I put it to the test at night, that I can not focus on distant / infinite subjects because I do not have enough mechanical focus ... you can give me an idea of what it might be and if I myself can solve this problem, thank you very much from now on, continue the excellent videos, they are a great help!

[@larryewing3233]

I just bought my push pull from a college student who still had the original hard case. the lens was in mint condition and it shoots great with beautiful blurry bokeh. i wish i could afford a faster focusing lens for action. gotta save up.

[@GRJOHN360]

I want a good and fast telephoto lens for my Sony A7. I dont want to spend a fortune on Sony lens and i think that this 80-200 f2.8 is the best value for money. Focus peaking on my A7 will help me to manual focus. Opinions?

[@ekkanofiqandriyana7325]

GRJOHN360 Iam inthe same boat Waiting for a good advice

[@immanueldecanophotography]

Hey, Ken! Love your channel Do you prefer this 80-200 Nikon lens over the AFS model?

[@callumjohnson9433]

Which specific 80-200 2.8 would you say is the best lens?

[@gregmosher4287]

Hey I recently picked up a 80-200 2.8D and it is pretty fantastic, I use it on my D7100. I do however seem to be having a issue with it. If I focus right on a eye of something, it seems to back focus just a little bit. so for a animal for instance if I focus on the eye it will more often hit the ears... which is not ideal. So my question is, is there a way to calibrate the 80-200 or fine tune its focus settings on my camera so that it will focus correctly? The usable photos I have been getting out of the lens are brilliant. but thats the trick... the USEABLE ones. many of them end up being a little too out of focus for me liking. this makes me pretty sad because its a great lens when it works. Also i know this is a old video but I am hoping that maybe you have the time to point me in the right direction :D

[@ericwashington6037]

I'm looking to get that exact combo. Right now shooting with Nikon D5300 with couple kit lens and a 50mm 1.8g. Been with this set up for about 2yrs now looking to upgrade to d7100 bc its basically the same as d7200 but cheaper used also better AF System and internal focus motor which means I can use great older lens for a super cheap price.

[@gregmosher4287]

@@ericwashington6037 yea the D7100 is a brilliant crop sensor camera. really the only other DSLR I would choose above it would be the D500. As for the 80-200 it is fantastic. I also suggest getting the 17-55 2.8. its a DX lens but its absolutely amazing. in regards to the issue I was asking about above I ended up messing with the AF-fine tuning options on the camera. after several hours of tests and tweaks I eventually got it to where it needed to be.

[@souljahzeal2738]

Greetings. I bought the 80-200 per your recommendation and just like when I got my tokina 100mm after watching your video, I have to say that i am more than happy with both purchases. Thank you very much! I recently purchased the d7100 and I love it! I am having a problem though,my 80-200 wont work at all. I keep getting an fee reading. Is there any advice you might have to help me out? Much appreciated. Keep up the great works.

[@ginoela8938]

Quick question. I just got my 80-200 D lense on my D7100 with battery pack. I plan to have it on a side sling. Do I still attach the carabiner to the body or the lense tripod mount?

[@mikaelsoppa]

Ken, if I need a tele lens for sports photography on a budget, which one would you recommend? The 80-200 nikkor is obviously not that fast in terms of AF, and the tamron not that cheap. What other alternatives are there? the 80-300 vr?

[@chellmcwags6229]

How far back do you recommend taking photos at? Like how many feet away? This may be why my photos have been soft and not sharp! Thank you for this video!

[@Alex-sr3ez]

It’s more likely you just need to do an in-camera fine tune autofocus adjustment.

[@EDHBlvd]

Ken, what will likely be more pleasing for portraits. The 80-200mm shot at 200mm and f/2.8 or the 135mm DC shot at f/2? On used market they are fetching the same and I'm considering them, but not both.

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+Rediscover Film easy, 135mm F2 DC nikkor

[@EDHBlvd]

+Theoria Apophasis thanks for input.

[@neilyakuza6595]

Tamron has more attributes. So logically pick the one that has better tech. VC, and faster focus, then Tamron it is.

[@HectorMerced]

Hi Mr. Angry, can you explain what the short focus issue is with the Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8? I picked one up 2 weeks ago and I'm curious to know. Thanks.

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+Hector Merced it isnt an issue, the lens is designed NOT to be used close in (about 20 feet) Nikon warns of this, to make it CLOSER, theyd have to change the optical design of the entire lens, optical design is like solving a rubiks cube upside down underwater its not a defect, its a necessity of the design.

[@HectorMerced]

+Theoria Apophasis oh okay, but I wasn't thinking of any defect. Just thinking what shooting situation to avoid. Love the lens btw, got it for ~$580.00 w/ shipping from Japan. Thanks

[@bluefilmsltd]

I'm thinking about getting the Nikon 80-200. It's like half the price of the the other one and has an aperture ring, right? That's what i'll need for video.

[@Alex-sr3ez]

Yes it has an aperture ring so it can be used on every Nikon SLR ever made except it won’t autofocus on the cheaper DX cameras (it WILL autofocus on the D7000 series and the D500)

[@mnselvaraaj]

Hi Angry Photographer, your explanation are really great. I like to buy a 80 200 2.8 as I shoot wedding with my d750, my only worry is low light, can you tell me what is the minimum shutter speed I can use handheld in 80 200.

[@ThatWasComedyy]

I just bought a Nikon AF 80-200mm 2.8 D and I'm having trouble getting it to take pictures or even autofocus. It's almost brand new but I don't know how to get it to autofocus? And it says f/EE at the top of my led panel thing on my d610. My other lenses don't do this. Help please!

[@bobbyellis5006]

+OminousKill make sure your aperture ring is set at f/22 on the lens, and double check to make sure the switch at the front of the lens is set to "full" and not "limit." I've missed many a shot because it had my focus on "limit" and didn't realize it.

[@ThatWasComedyy]

+Bobby Ellis Thanks that solved my problem!

[@rk011183]

Hi Ken, thanks for great videos. I am getting 80-200 AF-D in good condition about $420. Would you suggest to get it for Nikon D750? I am looking for my first large aperture zoom lens for candid portraiture during travel. I may shoot the moving subjects also (not sport exactly) I need to know if the focus will be fully compatible with d750 like focus tracking in AFC mode Or anyother incompatibility it might face with D750 ? Thanks. you rock!

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

except that lens is not meant for close quarters use, due to back focus, even nikon warns this lens is not for basically 25 feet or less :)

[@us1091]

hi Ken , I did own both of these lenses , it seems like 80-200 has a little ...little bit sharper and micro contrast is awesome too , at first I bought Tamron 70-200 I liked it a lot the AF is fast & smooth the VC really helped me then I decided to sell it to get Nikon 80-200 D + Nikon 24-85 VR ( both in more than great condition on eBay ) just the same $ I sold my Tamron , It is hard to say Which Is Best in these lenses , both are awesome should have in hand , I was running short $$ otherwise I will keep both

[@johellen4453]

Hi Theoria Apophasis: I'm using Nikon D7100 and i got several lenses such as: -Nikon 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6 DX VR -Nikon 35mm f/1.8 DX -Nikon 50mm f/1.8 -Tamron 90mm f/2.8 Macro non VC But Right now my wife starting her fashion industry and maybe i need some telephoto lens for Fashion & Catwalk Photography. Which telephoto lenses are you recommend for Fashion & Catwalk Photo (Nikon 80-200 f/2.8 or Tamron 70-300 f/2.8 VC)? Or it is allright to stick with my previous prime lenses?

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+J Spenver ohhh hell easy answer 70 200 2.8 VC Tamron and 135mm F2 DC Nikkor silk sex and sugar, nothing finer exists for THAT purpose. the 135mm Nikkor is NOT CHEAP!!!!! ive got both

[@johellen4453]

+Theoria Apophasis Thank You for the advice mate....

[@Whiskey_Hunter]

Do you recommend teleconverters for the tamron 70-200 f/2.8? If so which? Or if not why not? Thanks

[@jeboysymas5990]

Ahmm many are asking which is the best lens... hmmm AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

[@76CzarekP]

i love photos that 80-200 produces but hand held i struggle to get them sharp especially at 200mm

[@wlbear2570]

Found a minty nikkor push pull for $310.. make a video on how to cure 'GAS' please 😂

[@Ashrafzaman37]

I want to clear one thing.... If I try to shoot action, lets say I have to shoot at 1/500 s. Then is not the VC or VR useless? The picture should be same....Thanks in advance.

[@DetroitGlock]

I just picked up a beater Nikon with good glass for $150, I think I took his hand off as well Great lens and weighs as much as a tank too

[@Bishopton]

How come you don't comment on the 80-200 af-s? Isn't it exactly the same but slightly better wide open and faster AF?

[@isomegapixels]

Hey Ken i would like to buy a 80-200mm f2.8 but it hasfungus on front element but i want to clean it by myself can you help my out or make a video i would appreciat it thanks i like your videos

[@Gael32]

Are the optics the same across the board for all renditions of the Nikkor 80-200mm 2.8 (Including the push-pull)?

[@RealRaynedance]

Except for the AI-s and AF-S versions, they're supposed to.

[@thesharpercoder]

How is the weather sealing on the Nikkor 80-200 f/2.8D?

[@MrSzentKristof]

Hi Sir, Really loving your videos! Could you please do a AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D IF-ED Lens review for me? Would be very interested in your opinion. Many thanks!

[@montygiavelli8125]

This is what Rockwell says about this lens - This is an outstanding, advanced, complex, heavy and expensive lens, flawed by spotty manufacturing and a fuzzy ghost image shooting into the sun. Even with these flaws it's a very, very sharp lens with relatively low distortion. Heck, it's one of the sharpest lenses I've ever used, bar none.

[@uvcco2792]

can you tell me about Nikon 70-300mm VR vs. sigma 70-200mm f/2.8? I have both, but which one I will keep?

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+angel Co keep the nikon because it will still be working in 7+ years, the sigma WONT be but you DID ask

[@uvcco2792]

Thank you. Which one is sharp and produce nice shallow depth of field?

[@mrxram]

Dear mr. Angry, I was planning on getting the 80-200 f2.8, until I found out there is a slightly newer, discontinued, af-s version of this lens too. Do you have any experience with this lens and if yes: does it offer the same image quality as the af-d version? I'm using a d750, but I'm mainly interested in the af-s because of the lack of the screwdriving sound, in case of wildlife photography. Thanx a lot!

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+mrxram correct, same image quality and its a bit popular, and likely bit more expensive. however the screw drives are far far more long lived and reliable because there is no damn motor inside to break and if you GET an AF-S, its already got an old motor in it :/ for action and (what kind of wildlife?????) fast moving wildlife (birds etc), get the Tamron 70 200 2.8 VC for $1200

[@mrxram]

+Theoria Apophasis thanks for the quick response, I see your point and I agree it might be a tricky business buying a used copy of the lens. I plan on shooting some safari wildlife (may be wanting to get a x2.0 converter too), as well as the usual portraits and landscapes. I shot with the Nikon 70-300 vr before, which I loved, but the 2.8 is very appealing...

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+mrxram well ive made several vids about the diff between those lenses 80 200 is a tank with teh best image, but is a slow ole fart at fast autofocus (well not THAT slow) 70 200 2.8 Tamron is a rocketjet , its very tough too,... but hell youre not gonna hammer nails with either one of em

[@user-xy3fo7rk8u]

Lots of questions go unanswered.

[@freddieslaughter1107]

Which is best the Nikon AF-S 80-200 f2.8 or the AF-D 80-200 f2.8? Also I don't want a push-pull zoom.

[@mikaelsoppa]

Ken Rockwell recommend the first one if you can afford it, but not optically, only in terms of usability. Optically the AF-D is just as good as the AF-S. Look here: www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/80200afs.htm

[@ozerostrike]

hey you beefing on the new fstoppers video ;) nice one!

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+ozerostrike Muahahahahhahahahhah

[@Eric12123]

Is there anything wrong wit the push pull 80-200? Is it the same optically as the more expensive regular zoom version?

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+Pureownage1 for $340+ its a deal, but its a bit inferior and in design, and sucks dust, its a bit of a pain to use too.

[@somymos]

Hello Mr. Angry, I need your support, what do you think about using any of both lenses on a half frame body? is it suitable? or I should go for something different starting from 60mm which will be 90mm on my camera? I'm planning to go later for full frame, but for now I don't have budget, so I want to invest 1st on lens then later on body when i'll get better money, I'm doing portrait/wedding photography, thanx a lot

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+Samer El-Sarrag you mean a DX? its fine, i do same, its not any issue at all......bird shooters do it exclusively. :)

[@somymos]

+Theoria Apophasis thanx for yout reply, and sorry for my late response, yeah, DX, D5200 nikon, so as per your advice, i think I'll go for tamron 70-200mm 2.8, did I understand u correctly ?

[@DraculaNosferatu123]

what do you think about the new tamron 35mm f/1.8 and 45mm f/1.8?

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+Jorge Mario Bolaños Calvache i only got a 9 min test with one, and only the 35mm theyre not out yet

[@yrudy]

i wanna get into wedding photography and im leaning towards the 80-200 but i keep hearing about back focus issues. what do u think ?

[@yrudy]

i mean i have to always b at longer distance than 20 feet that 2 much especially in a church. 6 meters !

[@isobitis69]

+Rudy Aoun only at 200mm and only on very close distances like the minimum focus distance. not an issue on reasonable distances like 3m (10ft) or more

[@charlatan19]

I apologize in advance if you've covered this, but I'm still at a loss as to why the push-pull is not as well thought of as the $600 version. I know you said they all have the same optics and that they're still making the one you're recommending. You're mind moves fast and I never remember hearing why you gave the nod of the more expensive version versus the push-pull. Thanks in advance

[@isobitis69]

+charlatan19 had the push-pull AF-D in the past and now the 2 ring version. This newer version is far more comfortable in handling and has the absolutely necessary tripod ring. BUT, even though they claim to have same optics like the push pull, in my eyes push pull was superior in image quality across the whole range.

[@raviishankarrptekumalla]

Now where does Nikon 70 300 4.5 5.6 vr g lens stand between these two lenses. I have one. Do I really need the 80 200

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+Ravi Shankar the 70 300 VR G is like the "skinny brother" of the 80 200 2.8, with a bit flatter image rendition.

[@chiletemeto]

Someone I know is selling their Nikon 80-200 2.8 (afs) version really cheap because the autofocus doesn't work. Would it be a good idea to buy it and use it only on manual focus or would it be too difficult and annoying ?

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

you'll end up slipping a gear since its broken then it'll be locked up like a brick :/ if its $100, then yes, sending it off and get it fixed

[@MMB.__]

So the Nikon images would be more realistic, warmer than the Tamron?

[@vasilkolarov1662]

What are your thoughts on the last iteration of the 80-200 2.8 (the one with the af-s motor). I saw several reviews and comparison that state the af-s is actually sharper wide open than the D version. Is it worth getting the af-s one for just couple hundred dollars more ? Thanks in advance :)

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

yes, costs a bit more……..yes, its always about $150 i found no diff in testing the two actually :/

[@vasilkolarov1662]

+Theoria Apophasis Thanks :) The other thing I'm interested in is if the af-s version have fast autofocus as the tamron or the tamron is better even than the af-s in this regard ?

[@caleidoo]

I have bought and used every AF-D en non-D version - second hand. Only the AF-S version had usable 200mm wide open AF accuracy. All the others had terrible back focus. Can't be coincidence. I always thought "maybe the next version won't have it". I was wrong. Only my current 80-200 2.8 AF-S autofocuses flawlesly at 200mm. After some googling, the problem is not uncommon apparently.

[@bikefreek]

Can you tell me how the tamron works with the nikon 1.4x TC? Any compatibility issues?

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+bikefreek i havent used a TellyC in nearly 2 years,.......so i cannot say on THAT lens, i hear fine, but i dont like the issues those TC introduce. :)

[@pabdiary]

Can anyone please explain to me the different Nikon 80-200 lenses (AF/ AF-S / D ) Layman's terms please. I'm gonna get one but I don't which does what

[@tenseigan3087]

Check out this one, might answer your question... www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/80-200mm-history.htm

[@diabolomasterify]

Is it worth buying a Tamron 70-200 without VC????

[@cheny8923]

which 80-200 are you talking about? AF-S or AF (both are D of course) is the AF-S 80-200 as fast as the Tamron 70-200 VC??? and the AF 80-200 slower?

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+Jeff Chen AFS is not as fast as the tammy i was talking about the D

[@franzst.664]

Looking into getting a used 80-200mm. As far as I can tell there are 3 variants: - AF-D push-pull zoom (around 300,- used) - AF-D 'normal' zoom (around 600,- used) - AF-S 80-200 (not 70!) for around 900,- used. Which one to get? Thanks, man! (It'll be sitting on a D750 and a D610 - please don't judge me on the last one ;-))

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+Franz Steinberger there is a perverted fanboy club around the 80- 200 AFS, however its "magical" attributes are BS its not worth $200 more at all........ the AFD Nikkor for $600+ used is the one

[@franzst.664]

Thanks man (As usual). Now comes the interesting part: finding one in decent shape from someone who won't rip me off ;-)

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

from japan on ebay fast shipping

[@randomstuff53078]

Is the tamron good for birds in flight

[@odedbengigi]

hey ken! are you going to review the 200-500 ? i want to sell my 70-300vr and get the new nikkor 200-500

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+Oded Bengigi the necessity of that optical design of an ultra telly zoom makes its nature a known entity that isnt that great. when i get my hands on one i will review it buddy! :P "that lens is cheap!!!!" hahahhaha

[@odedbengigi]

LOL!! yea, but when it comes to birds and wildlife on a FX camera, 300 seems too short. even 600 isnt the best.. and those prime telephoto lenses cost more then two of my kidneys :D so this superzoom lenses are a good budget lenses

[@odedbengigi]

and yes ! we all miss froboy !!!!!!!!!!! u need to make a new doll LOL !

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

this is true!! "that lens is cheap!!!!" this time give him a goatee

[@alwilder1]

I've not seen you mention the discontinued 80-200/2.8 AFS. I use to own one and found the following compared to the D: AF was faster thanks to the SWM, could accept Nikon's AFS tele-extenders, build quality (except the tripod collar) a little better than the D, close focus at 200 was definitely better wide open than the D. Overall sharpness was as good or slightly better than the D. Main drawback was that it was slightly bigger and heavier. Any thoughts about this lens?

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

ive mentioned tons, just not recently

[@alwilder1]

Thanks Ken, couldn't find much mention by when scrolling down. I take it you're not a big fan of this lens since it's not mentioned in your videos.

[@rege.4777]

Theoria Apophasis will 80-200mm 2.8 work well with D500?

[@karendunlap357]

Don't see any reason why not. The crop factor will enhance edge/corner performance of this FX designed lens as it can be a little soft at the corners shooting at 200 mm on a full frame body.

[@rege.4777]

Alan Wilder thanks for the reply.. even with any 200mm 2.8 lens?

[@ahmedsaleh6463]

Iam buying the d7100 as my first dslr iam 15 years old ( teenage photographer ) so I would have only 300$ after I buy the camera what should I get my main focus will be portrait please respond I love you vedios man

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+Ahmed Saleh easy, 60mm F2.8 D Nikkor and a cheap 35mm AIS Nikkor prime thats all $300 there

[@ahmedsaleh6463]

+Theoria Apophasis thanks soo much should I get extra battery ? And what is the best memory capacity will my nest lens be the 24-85 vr g or the tokina 100mm ( macro is life) and then the sb800 right ? Thanks for responding

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

always extra battery either lens is fine for next. yes, or sb900

[@nahuellizardo7002]

Hello! Would you recomend the 70-200 2.8 tamron for my nikon d7100?

[@Ark7760]

ehhh, if you can go for manual focus, the AIS 80-200s are better.

[@nahuellizardo7002]

Thank you very much!

[@crxracer805]

I got the Tamron 70-200. It's amazing. Got some video samples on my channel if u wanna see.

[@nahuellizardo7002]

Thank you man! i have already bought the sigma 70-200 and i am very happy with it

[@666davekerr]

I bought the nikon 80-200 f2.8 d if ed and returned it after 2days. Maybe i got a bad copy but this lens is by no means sharp, even 10-12feet from subject and af fine tune carried out tge sharpness and detail just isnt there.

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

that was your problem…….nikon WARNS USERS you can't use that lens close in. …………. :/

[@666davekerr]

+Theoria Apophasis i didnt think 12ft was considered too close

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

oh yes, nikon warns its users on that lens, its NOT for close work at all..... people ask that question to me 1000 times about that lens its a fine lens, its not meant for close work (about 25 feet and less)

[@666davekerr]

+Theoria Apophasis thank u for the info. I didnt know that was the correct working distance, i would like to be able to shoot nice and tight headshot etc so think i will save for the tammy. Thanx again for all ur help

[@Admeralsarms]

Ken, gonna get Nikkor 80-200 2.8 for $550. should i take it?

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

if its in great shape, thats a deal for sure, remember its NOT a close in lens for 15 feet or less :)

[@Admeralsarms]

Theoria Apophasis copy sir. thanks, can't wait to get it. you have never let me down.

[@xX504kidXx]

Could you review the 80-200 af vs the af-s version???

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

i did that last year some time :/ i dont know where my own vids are!

[@xX504kidXx]

Have a d610 in the mail and I have a little over 400 to invest in some glass besides my 50 1.8g. Trying to decide between 80-200 af-s or getting a 28-70 af-s (which to get first) so I decided to look around your channel but you post so damn often haha. Thanks for your reply, typed the original message just cause everyone else gets replies but I didn't expect one!! Thanks for your time and your videos!!!!!

[@NinjaWorldProd]

just got the Tamron and it has a 100.00 rebate right now

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+NinjaWorldProd they have that rebate again ehhhh?

[@NinjaWorldProd]

+Theoria Apophasis yes I think it ends in October but hey 100 is 100, can't complain picked up a old Nikon 105mm lens at the same time for 180 in brand new shape plus the store tossed in free lens bag, filters, flexible lens hood, cleaning kit and more.

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

hmmmmmm

[@NinjaWorldProd]

+Theoria Apophasis it was at adorama in NYC, you can see the package on there site. Sorry to hear about your fisheye lens. I'm picking up s sigma 15mm 2.8 tomorrow

[@Leonx584]

ahha haha ha! I like your fucking laugh 😁

[@5sidedfistagon]

You're some sort of telepath, i was going to ask this today and then BANG you post it. I've gone full frame and either one of these are my next lenses . . .

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

+Alexcpt Photography yeah, i get asked the same stuff every 5 hours

[@RandomVideos-hm3kg]

fix your mic bro

[@raviishankarrptekumalla]

Now where does Nikon 70 300 4.5 5.6 vr g lens stand between these two lenses. I have one. Do I really need the 80 200

[@charlatan19]

+Ravi Shankar my $0.02, the 70-300mm VR is a great general purpose lens with fast autofocus and works with all the DSLR Nikons, even the motorless models. Downside, I've got a 100-300mm Ai 5.6 that's sharper. Plastic construction is another negative. 4.5 variable versus 2.8 constant. It's a great lens, in it's class, but this is a different class of lens. Mustang vs Maserati, Fiero vs. Ferrari - not a fair comparison

[@Lekis504]

Hey, did you manage to get an answer to your question? I'm in the same dilemma.

[@raviishankarrptekumalla]

Still sticking to the 70 300 VR. Also have the 200mm f4 ai