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A US Marine is being called a snitch across social media after the Marine Corp Embassy Protection Instagram account posted him receiving an award. The award was given to the Marine for telling his command that several younger Marines were under age drinking and came back to their post after a 0300 am curfew. His SGT was also caught up in the incident after the Marine covered the SGT's shift, after the SGT showed up to his post several hours late. The BIGGEST question is why, WHY did the Marine Guard account post this embarrassing incident?
Thanks to @outofregz on instagram , who helped me on this video
The views expressed on this page or any derivative therefrom are those of myself and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of Defense, the New York Army National Guard, or U.S. Government. ~ A.C.

[@Rasdawg915]

When i was a young marine i was really late for work one day after a long weekend. Woke up two hours late (still drunk) with my staff sergeant calling. I was honest and told him why i was late. He said i was lying, and that i was actually stuck at mcdonalds drive thru buying everyone breakfast biscuits. He was right.

[@Asghaad]

ahh the good old corruption at work ...

[@Rasdawg915]

@Asghaad nahh the point was just bring in some food for everyone. There's no reason to push paperwork and ruin a career of a good marine for one mistake.

[@PBurns-ng3gw]

Bought everyone breakfast, and THEN demonstrated you physical prowess by doing mountain climbers in the parking lot for two hours? That’s some fucking motivated shit right there!

[@Rasdawg915]

I spent 10 years in the military and once I gained rank I did the same thing with my Jr enlisted. Nobody ever complained about it.

[@jamesbrown9736]

Take care of your Marines!!!! If that means not reporting small infractions to the higher ups having the young poobies clean a few hundred pad eyes on the flight line with a spoon and a bucket then so be it. That way they learn a valuable lesson or two and don’t have a paper trail following them the rest of their career. They also learn to pass it down to the next bunch of poobies and so on. That way no buddy f$&king. On the other hand if said poobie is just a SHITBIRD well that is a whole nuther story!!

[@DownWithBureaucracy]

So he skipped the ENTIRE CHAIN OF COMMAND and blew a small incident out proportion? It's one thing to report incidents, it's another to go straight for headquarters

[@a-a-ronbrowser1486]

Skipped company too!

[@waltdyer0302]

Apparently he called the last det commander for questions on what to do about his new one being out on liberty and the last det commander called the new one and told him to act like an officer and the officer ratted on them all

[@silverwolfe3636]

@@waltdyer0302 I mean, that's acting like about 66% of all officers I came across so that tracks.

[@RoncoAlAdige]

I've have covered for my fellows, that shitbag deserves a blanket party.

[@Asghaad]

if it cleaned house this badly it wasnt "this one little incident" ... it stinks of this being REGULAR problem and direct superiors "covering it up" just like AC suggested ...

[@DoubleK0802]

The destruction happens in two ways. 1. The destruction of trust 2. The destruction of the legitimacy of the medal

[@young.angry.devildawg]

I second this so fucking much. At my first duty station we had some boot thinking he was hot shit because he got a NAM for recruiting while on RA after boot camp. Meanwhile one of our Sgts was awarded a NAM just a few weeks before this fucker arrived for giving someone CPR for like 30 minutes straight and saving his life.

[@xostler]

⁠@@young.angry.devildawgyeah but it’s also an embassy. I know it’s backwards but those marines were representatives first and soldiers second. The embassy could have been pressuring. Or maybe he did call higher ups and they told him to do that shit because it was an embassy. And then just hid behind the desk for the marine to take the hit. The promotion from throwing your brothers under the bus for is just the icing on the cake

[@kelllakell]

@@xostler i was MSG trust me when i say the embassy certainly did not push for it, half the people in an embassy are busy hooking up and playing grab booty and no credible officer would have told him to do that. He saw an opportunity and took it.

[@Station7Jason]

Don’t screw up on Embassy Duty, don’t screw up on WH Sentry duty, don’t screw up on HMX-1 duty…the trifecta of don’t screw ups..yeah the kid is a snitch, but it is what it is.

[@JamieWalker-pc6nd]

@@young.angry.devildawgahh man. That sucks. I can absolutely relate to that. If it helps, 10 years later bunch of guys who were there came and gave me a pat on the shoulder on their way out of the bar. I hadn’t even recognised them. Point being they remembered what I did for them. I hadn’t felt that anyone had ✌️

[@candle1122]

This dude is gonna be someone’s toxic leader ship in the future. He is for sure number candidate for the Blue Falcon Award

[@Donner906]

Me too. I was a snitch when i was in the army.

[@xostler]

@@Donner906well brother at least you got the balls to say it lol

[@JasmineMartinForeverASaint]

Mfn snitching on yourself is crazy @@Donner906

[@frodo7287]

He has future FF incident in his future if he ends up in combat zone

[@nathanielkidd2840]

This guys a blue falcon to the max. Best part is that his command made damn sure everyone knows it too. “We can’t punish him for this, but we’re definitely going to make sure that the entire Corps knows what kind of Marine he is.”

[@rusty7984]

Apparently the post was a trap and every COC is watching it like a hawk

[@ImpendingJoker]

@@rusty7984 Let 'em watch it. You don't have to post a comment to it to glean the information. That's how intelligence works. You take the information without letting the enemy know you've taken it. So the post might be a trap but the information is now out there for the whole world to see.

[@robmorgan1214]

That's retarded af. What would happen if the guards at the toumb of the unknown soldier showed up drunk and disheveled. They'd never find their bodies either. Embassy duty is IMPORTANT.

[@robertalexander5892]

I was thinking the same thing. Apparently someone with access to that account thought he was a huge pos for doing this also and made sure everyone knew it. They couldn't do anything to him, so they made sure the entire Marine Corps knew about it so someone else could.

[@kiyosenl.3889]

​@@rusty7984 you mean like a falcon, possibly of the blue persuasion?

[@bigredwolf6]

Someone gets hurt = Paperwork No one gets hurt = Creative punishment that will teach a lesson they’ll never forget

[@TheGman0808]

This right here!

[@arkad6329]

AKA… Make the wish they were hurt.

[@lordginger636]

Yes. Exactly this

[@bigredwolf6]

@@evileye302 Depends on the unit. Yes, most of them just go straight to paperwork. But as a first line Supervisor, you should know your guys/gals. You know who you can and can’t be old school with.

[@chillyboi6597]

even then the someone gets hurt could be different. Able to skip training so some higher up doesn't have to do paperwork ect.

[@hekrdcerhrtgfbhd]

handling things "at the lowest level possible" is a lost art.

[@Donner906]

They don't get handled. Its best to get officers involved.

[@jalengriffin1358]

Literally just graduated army blc and one of the things they hammered into us was handle stuff at the lowest possible level😂

[@shaun9156]

yessir

[@lonner98]

I think every branch tells their people that. You get ass kissing dick bag's in every were.

[@user-sc5kv1ex3w]

NCOs never do once they make sfc

[@Dangling_Carrot]

Ya your told that until your toxic commander tells you to slam them then your do the same as you progress

[@jalengriffin1358]

@@Dangling_Carrot commander won't find out if you keep it at the lowest level and they don't do nothing major.

[@ecthelion83]

As a former Marine, I feel like the fact that this blue falcon corporal used request mast to get his fellow Marines busted (rather than taking initiative as an NCO to exercise discretion in leadership) for non-critical bad behavior should have negated any consideration for an award.

[@KillerRatedM]

NCO’s arnt NCO’s anymore.. they’re lapdogs for the command

[@dorothyburry42]

Maybe this corporal was an opportunistic dick. Maybe the other guys should do their damn jobs. Let them off this time and next time it will be worse and something bad will happen.

[@azrael767]

What's a Former Marine?

[@haydenc2742]

@@azrael767 former active duty....NEVER an EX marine

[@MrKrystal64]

​@Hayden C my dad wld say there's no such thing as a former marine just one fighting above and another fighting below. Marines are like Spartans they don't quit they don't retire and they don't die just go mia or complete the mission or jump feet first into hell. Lean mean green fighting machines

[@lymanfaith1183]

As a former commander, him going to HQ VFR direct and by-passing me would have made me apoplectic. Also, he better be perfect the rest of his time in the Marine Corps because people are going to be paying attention to him.

[@AngryCops]

apoplectic is a great word

[@ParsnipCelery]

@@AngryCops My thoughts exactly.

[@ericstearns170]

I seem to recall being taught my Chain of Command fairly early in Basic Training. I was also taught to utilize the NCO support chain. I was also taught to skip it meant more rope for me than the 'offenders'... Young SGT should watch his back for the rest of whatever is left of his career.

[@wilfdarr]

The empty photos suggests somebody higher on the chain felt there was a problem with the chain below them...

[@jffry890]

​@@AngryCops Fuckin' big boy college words in here.

[@ApexHoosier]

I remember constantly hearing “Marine Corps is a competition” when I was in and it always seemed wrong. We shouldn’t be working to be better than everyone else in the Corps, we should be working to better the Corps, working as a team, having each others back. When shit hits the fan, Marine will not trust this NCO with their lives. They will expect him to use them as meat shields to make sure he goes home, and with a medal.

[@dylan9610]

This exact thing is a cancer. I’ve been the recipient of this and witnessed it way to much. I’ll take pain over paperwork any day of the week but the marine corps has deemed this hazing and you get punished for disciplining your troops. It cultivated into such a toxic environment to the point that I felt like I was getting pushed to the door. I’m happy to be on the next chapter of my live in 1st Civ Div.

[@shannongreen1520]

LMAOOOOO sooo funny 😂😂😂

[@Donner906]

The silence that protects shitbags is cancer.

[@Lying992]

We messed up one time in A-school, and our instructor walked in with ammo cans full of sand and said you guys want paperwork or my way. Needless to say after a 3 mile Indian run with those ammo cans we learned our lesson, and I developed so much respect for that guy.

[@rrchicken117]

"Indian run" interesting

[@USNTM2]

​@@rrchicken117Indian running is a practice where you get in a single file line, running at the same pace. The person in the back sprints to the front. The process repeats until the end of the evolution... in this case... the instructor at the A School thinks they've learned their lesson.

[@snowflakecuntreeman3947]

What if you repeatedly did that? And what if you repeatedly got stupid drunk and constantly embarrassed your country while being in another country? Im thinking there is more to this,...

[@Lying992]

@@snowflakecuntreeman3947 I was referring to the part in the video were AC was talking about using corrective training instead of ruining someones career over staying out a little late drunk. The military already makes up 1% of the population, and people are not just easily replaced like they are in the civilian sector. As an NCO you are given multiple ways to try and fix deficiencies, and it is up to you to use critical thinking to appropriately handle things at the lowest level. In this case they had no choice because this guy blue falconed them all by not following his chain of command. In my opinion that kid should be punished for not following his chain of command.

[@USNTM2]

@@Lying992 what was your rate, Shippy?

[@RisenGlorfindel]

As a soldier who’s been given the army achievement award 4 times, I can attest it means very little and would never let my unit take a photo of me and post it on the internet. Plus, I never got one for screwing over a buddy. Most of them were just for doing the right thing and watching out for each other as we should.

[@vanhattfield8292]

There is more to this than what is being told. IG isn't getting involved over a couple of Marines being late to a formation. They are only jumping in if there is reason to believe that there is a systematic failure in leadership and/or the execution of policies and procedures. If there was a handful of bad apples that got pulled out of the barrel, then he wasn't fucking over his buddies, he was protecting them.

[@drewpamon]

He didn't post it. The Marines did

[@Gerle71]

For perspective "Specifically, between 2002 and 2004, the Marine Corps awarded 701 Bronze Stars, the Air Force awarded 2,425 in total, and the Army issued a ridiculous 17,498 Bronze Stars between the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. For perspective, the Army is habitually more than double the size of the Corps; at its peak in 2009 the Corps had 203,000 Marines compared to the Army’s 549,000 soldiers. Yet the Army awarded 25 times more Bronze Stars than the Marines. By 2007 the Army would award more than 50,000 non-valor Bronze Stars and almost 1,700 Bronze Stars with a “V.”"

[@drewpamon]

@Thomas Gerle that's because the marines hate give out medals

[@Gerle71]

@@drewpamon Some do, some don't.

[@jamessanders8895]

Having been in Europe while a junior enlisted, "underage drinking" is not the same as state-side. The official regs at the time (late 90's) stated that you must follow the overarching policy, but that local commanders may default to host nation laws... In other words, 18 is perfectly fine for drinking provided the regional commander dictates preference for the host nation laws, including in uniform (which is ABSOLUTELY forbidden outside of official events normally). Given the above, I feel there is context missing to this story. That said, the marine absolutely should not have been given more than at most a certificate of appreciation, and most likely his own article 15 NJP for jumping the chain of command. Report the problem to the Watch Bill Coordinator or Duty Officer? Sure, no problem, either is supposed to take care of those problems. Report to the unit CO/XO/OIC if the previous two aren't available? Reasonable. Report to the regional CO, skipping everyone else? Absolutely not!

[@GamerGateVeteran]

My father is a Marine, served for 9 1/2 years (chiefly being deployed for Operation Enduring Freedom). While deployed, my father earned and was later awarded this same medal for his actions. I found his paperwork for it one day when helping my mom clean out the house for spring cleaning a year or two ago, and I read what he did to earn that medal. In summary, as a newly minted NCO he single handedly coordinated the deployment of his men when they came under fire unexpectedly and successfully launched a successful counter before communications with his CoC were fixed and he was ordered to cease. A few months after receiving this award, the criteria of the award was altered and lowered somewhat, and now jackasses like this get to wear the same medal my father fought and earned, just for being the "i" in "team" and getting his whole unit Thanos snapped.... absolutely ridiculous.

[@feildman1]

Meanwhile I coughed when someone posts on KZbin about their father serving and I expect to hear Vietnam or Korea,…….. it was the same time I did….. 😂😂

[@johnwayne2103]

The problem with Navy Achievement medals is that they are given out for crap reasons. The only way to distinguish them apart is if they are award with a V for valor in combat, that way nobody can question them. Your description of your fathers medal is dubious because it sounds like his job was communications and his action of a "successful counter"? that is the part I have an issue with. I read Medals and Ribbbons and I can sum up a Marines career in less than 1 min. Not that your story is B.S. but I can read a Marines story in under 30 seconds and I warn them as former Marine I smell B.S from a mile away. It's interesting how careful they are when they tell their story.

[@GamerGateVeteran]

@@johnwayne2103 He was not "communications", I only stated that communications were re-established (after having been cut off from the attack) and that his superiors orders came through for his counter-attack to cease at that time. Im not USMC so I could be recalling the proper title incorrectly, but I believe his position was referred to as a "Crew Chief" or something similar. Nothing fancy or flashy, not running around claiming stolen valor pretending to be some SOCOM Commander who runs around telling stories ripped right out of a Tom Clancy fantasy. But he was in a (NCO) leadership role, deployed into active combat zones, saw his fair share of "the elephant", lost friends along the way, and managed to survive and make it home. He doesnt brag, he doesnt tell stories, he doesnt run around with USMC hats and shirts and jackets and patches and stickers (though he did have a short 2 week phase where he got his ribbons/medals/award rack turned into a big sticker on the back of his truck window, but he ripped it off because he felt "stupid" and embarrassed to be driving around with a "look at me, Im so cool" sticker...his words). Feel free to question and be critical of any claims to military valor on the internet, but I would advise to not start spouting off about how claims are "dubious" and making assumptions based entirely on a single sentence summary of an event being recalled from a 3rd person civilians perspective. While Im sure my dad wouldnt care himself about a strangers accusation, as his son I tend to take it a bit more personal when someone wants to insinuate my father is lying and faking his USMC medals paperwork (to be clear, this was not some poorly crafted fake DD-214, this was the actual individual paperwork regarding the official reports and process his CoC went through to get him awarded for his actions), especially if the person is also claiming to be a Marine while doing it.

[@johnwayne2103]

@@GamerGateVeteran You read too much into my explanation. I qualified my statement with "not that your story is B.S.". I'll leave it at that.

[@GamerGateVeteran]

@@johnwayne2103 Your use of "not that your story is B.S.", surrounded by everything before and after saying that, has as much weight as when someone starts off by saying "With all due respect". What comes before/after that phrase is never respectful, and you most certainly were calling BS. If you dont mean what you say, then dont say it. If you mean what you say, then say it.

[@cavemanjoe79]

Number 1, don’t tell the officers jack shit about what your buddies did. Number 2, know which NCO’s you can tell and keep the situation at the lowest level possible. Number three, let the NCO take care of the discipline and make sure these guys don’t ever show up late again, no matter how hung over they are.

[@tartanpimpernel6358]

One of my NCOs once told me, "Sir, ask no questions, get told no lies."

[@c.j.deyoungiii2704]

Hey! I was an officer! I didn’t care what time you came in, what you did prior to coming, as long as you did your job! I believed in my Squad Leaders doing verbal counseling. I also believed in verbal counciling as well…

[@bluecollarcanuck]

Shouldn't really be hung over, either.

[@c.j.deyoungiii2704]

@@bluecollarcanuck probably, but they’re Military Members and that’s what (most) of them (us) do.

[@WvlfDarkfire]

Facts. 💯 on the facts

[@andrewvelasquez79]

I just came from senior leader course and had a discussion about holding subordinates accountable. I was the only one to respond with "who here has a squeaky clean record, having never done anything wrong?" "have you never had a leader realize your potential and had your back after you fucked up, and turn it into a learning experience?" I got crickets in return.

[@newgoliard6059]

That's like Jesus asking for the person with no sins to throw the first stone. Everybody left the room. 🤣

[@Talon18136]

Ain’t no one got squeaky clean records in the military we all do some stupid shit just some more than others

[@987654321wormy]

I had an old CSM back in the day who once said he didn't trust a Soldier who didn't have an Article 15 somewhere in his record. 🤣

[@UtubeH8tr]

Sounds like a him problem.

[@suzakukururugi6613]

Quite the "discussion "

[@jrogers9660]

Accountability and integrity is not normal in this world!

[@RyuKyuRvr]

As a Marine, and the reason we keep our good order and discipline is because we hold our NCO's and lower enlisted to higher standards. Embassy duty is a coveted and high profile duty, and while using the proper chain of command is the appropriate action, i do not know if the command environment was allowing this inapropriate behavior and this is why the story went higher or if he jumped the chain of command. While you "Army types" might accept this behavior as a minor thing, this is never appropriate behavior and especially at an Embassy. Good on the Lance Corporal for doing the right thing!

[@Judgement_Kazzy]

I feel like if this happened to every service member who got drunk and showed up late for work, the entire military would grind to a halt.

[@rusty2381]

Man, to be a fly on the wall in your house if you heard some college studen refer to a majority of service members as drunk on the job.

[@Fat_Thor_1138]

Bruh this isn’t the same. It’s MSG duty. They are security for the entire embassy. This isn’t a job you can be childish and fuck around.

[@rusty2381]

@Fat_Thor_1138 I feel like that's how we should look at the military in general but here we are...

[@Judgement_Kazzy]

@@rusty2381 What?

[@rusty2381]

@supersonicsaiyan1 would you tolerate somebody who has never served before saying the majority, if not entire military spends a majority of their time drunk on duty?

[@thatsameenergy]

We had the saying in the marine corps while I was in: "you can have pain or you can have paperwork". If you were smart, you chose pain. This kid probably will never give his marines the pain option and he'll be forever hated for it until the day he leaves or retires.

[@andykrueger7564]

rah spent 12 hours standing at parade rest on a rock because I fell asleep during firewatch 50 minutes on 10 minute break

[@thatsameenergy]

@@andykrueger7564 as God intended 😂 I had to mop up a parking lot in the rain for 3-4hours in boots and it's for being 10-15 mins late to formation because I couldn't find my poncho.

[@fperry8613]

This also happens on the patrol in Oklahoma. Had a supervisor told us one day to watch what your doing around one trooper because he'll snitch you out to the district commander. When he retired a few years later, no one missed him.

[@Donner906]

That's me. Its best when people threaten you. You can snitch on them for that too and get moved.

[@tjmario64]

That bit you threw in "Did I do good, Ms. Finster?" "Good enough for a cookie." Had me rolling on the ground laughing 😂 🤣

[@slappy8941]

The worst part is when the chain of command completely overlooks the shenanigans of certain people, but comes down full force on others for the least things.

[@ChristopherKnN]

Been on the receiving end of that stick.

[@Dave-yb3ng]

How dare you suggest using common sense and logic! Go sit in the corner and think of what you've done.

[@mikael7963]

I know the feeling. 🙃

[@micclay]

That's life. The problem is in the millitary, you can't just remove yourself from the situation and disassociate with those who who play favorites the way civilians can.

[@jamesdavis6537]

Facts, received that trash myself. NCOs and SNCOs banging nonrates in the barracks, each other's wives, starting fights in town AND LOSING, naw nothing to see here! But God forbid you miss an appointment because you showed up early and left when nobody was at their office at COB. God forbid an nco with no prior related incidents has a case of beer in their room! Can't have that

[@butch1948OldMarine]

I was an E5 back in 1970, and I was the duty NCO, for the weekend. The staff duty officer came through the barracks and there was a GI can in the head full. He told me to get a two Marines to empty it. I went to the weight room told two PFC's to take care of it when they were done. Well they said they would and forgot! The Staff duty officer came back through the barracks that next morning, and seen it was not empty. He ask if I told any body to empty the GI can, and I said yes I got two PFC's to do it. He got pissed and said they did not do it and wanted he to bring then up on charges for disobeying an order! He said if I didn't he would charge me for dereliction of duty. I only had 6mons left! So I took the summary court, the two PFC had almost 3 years left. And they were good Marines, and I did not want that on their records! (And this is the longest comment I have ever left!)

[@joshuasanders8680]

"young military members who....threw up" gave me flashbacks to Kunsan.

[@pauliethefatman]

Silence is gold but a Marine owing you one is priceless

[@shannongreen1520]

Truth in its purest sense 🔥🔥🔥

[@Donner906]

Screw that, snitch and screw people.

[@rickyibarra4675]

Out of everything the taking the group van and leaving the other marines to walk back to base is what got me 😡

[@XtheMagus]

It makes me feel like someone did this just to make sure that everyone knows what he did.

[@ryabow]

my first non-training command, i had this senior chief (E8) that was fantastic at preventing blue falconry. we were in a foreign port, and i lost my liberty buddy (he was so drunk he just wandered off). I lost my damn mind trying to find him. I literally organized the Hooters girls into search parties. found him hours later, getting put on a liberty boat to go back to the ship by some chief with a chip on his shoulder. we get back to the ship, this E7 and I are practically dragging my buddy back to the check in desk for my department, and you could tell this ass hat was getting ready to throw us in the road, and steal a truck with which to run us over with, but senior just happened to be at the desk seeing who was back and who was still out. E7 starts going over how we're huge shitbags and all that, senior puts up a hand to stop him. he turns to us. "Jim, you need medical?" slurred response. "good enough for me. noname, you able to get him to his rack?" "yes, senior." "good. get out of here." he turns back to the E7. "they checked back in together. that's all that matters." and he turns and walks away. another time, we're in our home port, and me and another mechanic spot a guy from our division who is beyond drunk. like, couldn't even drink water without vomiting levels drunk. we grab him, get some bags from the bartender for him to throw up in, and a liter of water form the store across the alley, we both take an arm, and start walking him back to base. shore patrol comes across us in a matter of seconds. As we're loading the kid in the van, I'm trying to find out how much trouble he's going to be in, should i go with him, etc., and my buddy is handing them his vomit bags and water when senior comes up out of nowhere. Senior happened to be driving by, saw us talking to a shore patrol ensign, and pulled over to find out what was going on. after everything was explained to him, he hops in the van. "why dont you boys give me a ride back with him. I'll make sure he's taking care of. noname, you have anything to drink yet?" "uh, no senior. we just reached the bar when he was getting cut off." he tosses me his keys "good. drive my truck back to base, leave my keys on my desk, and enjoy your night." my entire naval career, there have only been three kahki that i've trusted, and he was the first one. I've never before or since seen a leader so willing to go to bat for their sailors.

[@-gibby538]

Sounds like he had that for him when h3 was a little shitbag and wanted to return the favor

[@seansoccer100]

this is what true leadership is right here. love it! :D

[@johngillespie3409]

A liter of cola probably better than the liter of water 🤣

[@cody180sx]

Yeah, it's so far a few between it's crazy. My senior tried yelling at me once because I missed a whole funeral, he failed to realize I was on duty that day and the only ac/r certified technician on board when one of the main AC's went down meaning I was the only one who could get it back up, it's a 45 minute alignment procedure, another engineering chief stopped him. It went down right as I pulled my dress whites out to change to leave, and after I had got off watch, so no one other than the duty section was there. He was more worried about looking good for brass than our equipment going down.

[@ellencameron3775]

Hell, I'm not military and have never been military, but I'd follow your Senior into battle in a heartbeat.

[@sandyh5873]

I had a Commander in Germany who questioned why she never heard about the Soldiers in my Platoon. I said “Ma’am, we keep things in house”.

[@fperry8613]

That's how it should be. We did that in my platoon around 86. I got into a little hot water instead of an article 15 I had to paint the CP that weekend, if it wasn't done by 0600 Monday morning it was my ass. So, Saturday afternoon myself and about 4 other my buddies and about a case and half of beer we had it knock out in about 4hours with 3 coats of paint on the wall. Platoon Sgt and sl were happy.

[@Donner906]

I would have waited until you finished and then snitched to the commander.

[@alexisrivera200xable]

That is just plain bad for morale and trust. You cover for your buddies on the minor things and bond over it, if things start to get worse then you go to your NCOs and work out correction before paperwork only after those fail then you go up the chain. The only exception to that is direct corruption of your chain of command or instances where people get hurt badly out of neglect or worse and its covered up. That stuff can't and shouldn't be covered up because it causes further harm. People would be surprised how most people right themselves if they are given a chance after fucking up with just the appropriate corrective punishments rather than a ruined career.

[@Donner906]

@@alexisrivera200xable None of that works with a shitbag. NCOs don't have the authority to do much. I would simply wait for the shitbag to fuck up then jam them up with the commander. Shitbags only respond to force. Morale in the military is never good and you should never trust anyone in the military.

[@MrCatlegs]

I did seriously think you were out. My bad!😂

[@williamdennis1109]

Remember as an E4 getting smashed and not coming in for a whole day. Reported to the 1SG he closed the door and said do you want to work for me or walk the carpet. I spent the next 3 weekends painting rocks (Ft Carson), but my record stayed clean of the incident.

[@jamakinmekrazie2217]

The whole MSG community is holding its breath.

[@kaylareed043]

I've been in that sit as E in AF is full of Blue Falcons! Everyone is stepping one to get promoted ! BLAHAHAHA

[@SatoshiAR]

Hey can we exhale already? My lips are turning blue.

[@adamrod4366]

My guy you have no idea. On top of that all of MCESG had a mandatory brief to talk about the incident... and it gets better we just had another on to talk about cyber bullying because that Marine got shit on so much across the social media platforms that they had to remove every post cause of the backlash.

[@AzzKicker-bz1cb]

@@adamrod4366 Awww!!! Poor Buddy Fucker got his feewings hurt???!!! Too fucking bad!!!!

[@margmoe]

Did they take the post down? Because I want to read all the comments.

[@David-ue3vf]

Man, at the end there, you hit me in my heart strings. When I was an instructor at the Marine Corps Communications Electronics School (MCCES), we used to send our young Marines that messed up to 1st Tank Battallion and have them break tracks for the tankers. Those Marines came back complete different people. Put someone in 110 degree weather breaking tank tracks for a week and see how fast someone's attitude changes.

[@ScuzzBrush]

We tankers appreciated the help. Those tracks ain’t light 🤣

[@justaguy4788]

MCCES was good times. :/

[@Definitely_not_Snax]

shoot, you guys at 1st Tanks got help? We ain't get nothing but dick out at 2nd lol

[@scottlong5105]

When were you at mcces? I was there in 01' never broke tracks though.

[@tinogutierrez9910]

Damn fr my instructor never did that 😂😂

[@jaymac11211]

Snitches end up in ditches 😂😂

[@lonner98]

My dad spent 20 years as a Marine. When i wanted to join. He pulled me aside and said, the Marine corp wasn't the fun it used to be. He was C.I.D and had to investigate Marines for doing the same shit him and his buddies used to do without blinking an eye. So i joined the navy as a welder and then later crossed over to be a seabee. Learned a few trades and I'm never without a job.

[@shadow0fn1ght78]

Taking responsibility well beyond your pay grade? nah. Saving a person's life? Nope, just doing your job. Rat out your coworkers? Hell yeah, here's an award! The state of the military is so backwards. No wonder retention sucks. And the higher you go, the more sociopaths and psychopaths you meet.

[@madtabby66]

Because that’s what they encourage & promote.

[@robertsears8323]

He did the right thing as it should be illegal to be drunk if you work for the government in anyway.

[@floridacracker_]

​@@robertsears8323we found him guy's 😂

[@Oblivisci........]

​@@robertsears8323You make the military unbearable for anyone but yourself.

[@johnhildenbrand2642]

​@Robert Sears People like you end up taking showers with hand grenades

[@tannerlivermore1712]

I’ve always said this: “A Marines greatest enemy? Other Marines.”

[@who346]

A Career Marine.

[@williamcastillo3743]

The enemy isn’t even on the other team.

[@Donner906]

Yes so snitch on them

[@aryanosouhian9670]

When I was an Air Force firefighter and i had a long night of drinking with two other firefighters and we came to work drunk. I was tipping over at roll call. My SSGt asked me who else was with me, I said I drink alone. I didnt even bother to lie about myself because I could smell the booze on my own breath. My SSGt proceeded to make me do bunker drills and pull hose lines for the next 2 hours with my mask on with air. I puked to my eyeballs, then he sent me to shower, and bed to sober up until i could be on the floor. He chewed me out in his office when i sobered up, he knew the other 2 were drunk but because I didnt rat them out he went easy on all of us. He threated paperwork if i did it again but hoped i learn from this smoking. He said never rat out another firefighter , brothers protect each other. Fuck blue falcons. Everybody on the shift got me drunk the next day.

[@blindspider1851]

That Marine just covered himself in gasoline and now has to go stand in formation with a bunch of Marines with lighters, and you know it’s going to happen to. Combative training is never going to be the same for that guy.

[@bodidley5015]

You’re not wrong. As a young enlisted marine I was out fucking around drunk with a chick and missed muster for duty one day coming in way late. My sergeant section leader took care of it. I paid the man for my negligence but it never ended up on paper. I had good damn sergeants and was a good Marine myself. They recognized that and mentored me and didn’t accept bullshit. I got meritoriously promoted to PFC, Lance Corporal & Corporal and then got an appointment to the Naval Academy. The e5 sergeants I had taught me what leadership and accountability was.

[@brimmjob8122]

Yeah I miss PTers and not paper pushers.

[@knine8154]

"Missed muster." You ain't no jarhead sparky

[@bodidley5015]

@@knine8154 really. What do you know about the Corps? Astound me with your experience sweetheart.

[@ByteStorm83]

​@bodidley5015 it has been a while for me (01-05), but I don't recall hearing it called muster. It was always just "formation". Been a while, maybe things are different.

[@JLDoss]

When the fuck did they start calling it Muster?

[@c.j.deyoungiii2704]

I’m a civilian now, but I regularly explain to civilian co-workers what a Blue Falcon is!!! Now I have a short to send them!!! Thanks AC!!!

[@chriscr21]

I hated it when we went from the 4/325 AIR Gold Falcons to the 3/325 AIR Blue Falcons just because of this!!! Most of us who grew up as Gold Falcons, got the fuck out Bragg after that haha God damn DOD said they needed to bring the 3rd back from Italy, but everyone at the 82nd looked at us sideways after the changeover.

[@Truthpatriot62]

Shorts are 30secs this regular video lol

[@Paleotech1]

Remind them that it is a relatively new euphemism for Buddy Fucker.

[@ThyAmREmo]

Honestly, kinda sounds like giving him that award is the most creative kind of punishment his command could have given him.

[@Talon18136]

Yes never underestimate the dirt baggery of the military he probably though he was gonna look good to his superiors for doing that but he skipped chain of command and that can’t go unpunished

[@jace3802]

Dude I hadn't even thought about that 😂 like the most passive aggressive retaliation in history 😅

[@MavHunter20XX]

There's a way to revoke the award. Marines not destroying public property while abroad. That's Christmas day miracle

[@NeoFireFly]

Sounds like he’s GREAT officer material lol😂😂😂

[@Will0398]

He may have won an award but he lost everyone’s respect around him.

[@Jessesgirl0307]

Damn right!! No one likes tattle tales. Especially ones that go up to the top. How are you supposed to trust someone that's willing to take you down. No battle buddy there. Whether in the military or in life. Anyone willing to take you down is not a friend

[@Metalman200xdamnit]

And now,no one wants that bastard anywhere near them.

[@Nasty_J]

Respect doesn't pay bills

[@johnrogers8217]

Plus he is untouchable now

[@Metalman200xdamnit]

@@Nasty_J But money is worthless when he just made himself a target.

[@BarryisLost]

As a former NCO, all I could say to this guy would be, "I hope that medal was worth it, because right or wrong, you now have a reputation amongst your peers and they are waiting for you to F*** anything up." AC is right, there are no winners in this situation.

[@supra1jzed]

I'd honestly be surprised if the social media post wasn't for blowing past all chains with the situation. A sly way to shitcan him. I seriously doubt the fallout of the publicity they gave this dude wasn't very well thought out.

[@BarryisLost]

@@supra1jzed You're probably not wrong.

[@EXiiEe]

@@supra1jzedthey deleted the picture 😂

[@Donner906]

It's easy to win by snitching. Just don't give a shit what they think.

[@karlboehm6573]

As a former MSG, a lot if things go on that are best not spoken. Aside from police involvement, everything was handled at the assistant Det Commander level (SSGT or SGT) unless it needed to be handledby the Det Commander (SSGT or GySGT). Bn was only involved if police or embassy was aware.

[@Guru4hire]

The Senior NCO that gives the honest kid CQ on a friday and saturday night deserves what they get.

[@joshbasarab6869]

I know a fellow Marine that went UA by accident for his sisters wedding as a PFC or LCpl. They ripped him left and right and made him do all the stuff no one wants to do. Nothing on paper. He's a Captain now and a heck of a Marine.

[@rusty7984]

Shame cause I had a Sgt when I barely hit the fleet and he was amazing as a Sgt in every way. But got an NJP when he was a PFC for underage drinking and couldn’t pick up SSgt and got forced out.

[@Donner906]

@@rusty7984 I did that to a couple NCOs.

[@rusty7984]

@@Donner906 It’s a shame cause that Sgt was a great marine and good leader but got forced out. I wonder why the shitbags stay in and good marines get out

[@Donner906]

@@rusty7984 I got shitbags chaptered.

[@rusty7984]

@@Donner906 There’s a difference between shitbags and people that make mistakes. Take these young marines for instance sure everyone can agree showing up late and drunk af is wrong and they should face a punishment for it however they shouldn’t have their careers ruined over a simple mistake should they stand a few extra weekend duties and clean porta shutters for a few weeks yes defiantly. Now if they do it more than once not learning their lessons then yes throw the book at them cause they clearly didn’t learn their lesson.

[@claridge7549]

This is why the military has retention issues. The horrible leaders get promoted and the good leaders aren’t dumb enough to stay in the service long enough to get railed.

[@Donner906]

Yep that's me, I was a filthy snitch. I snitched on people for everything. I royally screwed my platoon. I got moved and put on an easy detail. Thanks commander.

[@joeblow5658]

It's peace time brother,,, only the BF pogs can be successful 😂

[@richardpace2484]

I always felt my job as an NCO in the Corps was to protect my Marines, even from themselves at times. I came up in a field unit and that was how it was done. Take care of things at the lowest level possible and once it was handled, it was done. If I took care of it as a CPL, it never had to get to my SGT. Even if that meant I was waking up at 2am to take one to the emergency room for accidentally breaking their window on their room and cutting the hell out of their arm.. but that was also 16 years ago lol

[@flemmet1105]

Amen brother!

[@safriedrich1631]

old school leadership bro.. the way you conducted.. others will see, remember, and pass it on... SEMPER FI

[@macdelttorres3366]

Can’t remember how many times I was awaken to go pick someone up at a bar and take them to post… never left my people face a shitty situation alone…. “Take care of your team” that was the first thing my first NCO told me.

[@dennisshaffer5875]

You, sir, deserve a pat on back.

[@RebelAngelkiller62]

When I was in the Marine Corps, you never snitched on another Marine because that would ensure an automatic blanket party by the entire platoon.

[@Asghaad]

oh great so instead of military discipline we get prison gangs ... great way to show how undisciplined and substandard the USMC is these days ...

[@perdidoatlantic]

I got an Article 15 for getting chicken to go at lunchtime because a female sgt wanted me and I rejected her. But it was really because I was seeing a male major on the DL. I got 30 days in Correctional Custody and it was worth every effing minute.

[@travispittman5287]

Snitch, Snitcher, Snitchothy.... Would you mind if I called you Blue Falcon?

[@bobverick]

The CO was probably ordered to given him an award. The CO didn’t like it, and wanted to let everybody he is a BF. Putting in Instagram was genius. I couldn’t imagine having a guy like that show up to my unit and not be on the wrong foot already.

[@PentaRaus]

A famous blue falcon, he's in for an interesting time that's for sure.

[@adeptsaxophonist]

Yeah I was going to say, whoever posted this was definetly protesting this guy got an award while still technically not directly going against the higher ups. Brilliant. There's a famous case of a 1950's letter from Emory medical school letting an applicant know that they can't consider his application "because he is black." Basically a way to stop scumbags from having any deniability of what they did or sweeping their dirt under the rug.

[@ThatAdamIsMild]

Yeah this

[@davidfrench3657]

That's a great point. I didn't think about it that way

[@abcdefbcdefg8352]

bet requests transfer to AF

[@eddyangueira4369]

I had a Marine officer do the same shit to me and it cost me my commission. Worst part he fucking lied. The IG cleared me but the Corps wouldn't reverse their decision because of course they don't make mistakes. 🙄

[@waltdyer0302]

What happened?

[@vanhattfield8292]

When the IG clears you the Corps most definitely would reverse their decision. Why would there even be IG investigations if the results were not going to apply to the case being investigated? That makes no sense.

[@NautilusSSN571]

Details please we wanna know the full story

[@NgJackal1990]

Well, we can’t verify your story so we can’t even tell if you’re telling the truth.

[@AzzKicker-bz1cb]

@@NgJackal1990 Really??? You want a man or woman to bare their soul about a time in their life they’d gladly never have to think about again, just to satisfy your entertainment needs??? Clearly that all y’all are looking for!!!!

[@cyrahomega]

It sucks when this is your first line supervisor lol

[@keinlieb3818]

So, he got an award and at the same time, is immediately universally hated by all military members.

[@robertlane3850]

As a Marine I wanted to defend us but yeah... I saw A LOT of that when I was in. Hell Lt Col Scheller was getting nuked cause he asked for accountability

[@BruceMusto]

Excellent point right there.

[@siamihari8717]

May I have your Opinion? Ive been under the impression the overall officer core is more or less corrupt. Caring more about themselves and their career then the Enlisted surving under them. Ive been thinking that the Officer Core would be better off if we ceased recruiting people from outside the military and giving them some butterbars, im growing convinced an officer should solely be An NCO who deserves and earned it.

[@johntrammell8213]

This cpl is now getting nuked bc he is demanding accountability from his fellow marines and garbage ass Sr ncos!

[@PopeMetallicus]

​@@siamihari8717 The entire command structure is toxic af and our officers, especially senior ones, are more politician than warrior at this point. Just like the dickbags in DC want

[@chikntaco141]

And what would Scheller have done if one his junior Marines said what he said, to and about him? Would Scheller be ok with it?

[@ecrogue4496]

Sounds like that medal will probably be accompanied with some soap socks.

[@annabellethepitty]

He would just snitch again.

[@Einwetok]

I'm sure someone will give him a no confidence vote later when it matters. He won't be able to do anything about it either.

[@RaptorReplays]

@@annabellethepitty we take those anyway

[@NeverSober8008]

Glad someone is finally pointing out how the Marine Corps has been treating “drinking incidents” as if they went out and killed someone. And how many god damn blue falcons jump the chain of command or aren’t handling things at the lowest level.

[@scottlin777]

This guy is not going to be trusted anywhere he goes

[@HighOverlordSnarffieBeagle]

does he realize that his entire remaining time in service is going to be spent with everyone hating him? seems like this is going to be a real unpleasant time for him

[@VaporheadATC]

These types of people are too narcassistic to care.

[@kevinlangley2748]

Sounds like what happens to cops who report corrupt, law breaking cops. Crazy, isn't it? I mean... we all hate corrupt cops, but apparently to you reverse minded people it's the person reporting that is the problem.

[@cairon2000]

I'm German, so I know what Schadenfreude is. It's been 25 years since I was a Bundeswehr soldier. At that time there were also moments when some comrades misbehaved, but we clarified that internally. There is another German word that comes to mind when watching this video. The word is Kameradenschwein, you can guess what it means.

[@FlatRangeOperator]

Pig comrade !

[@daviswhite3591]

Blue Falcon = Buddy Fucker

[@HandFromCoffin]

"but we clarified that internally" exactly.. this will be handled... no need for paperwork..

[@987654321wormy]

I grew up in the old Army, where leadership didn't try to ruin careers. If you did something stupid but relatively minor my 1SG would give you a choice, nonjudical punishment or "owing" him for a couple of weeks. He'd tell you that owing him would suck (informal extra duty) but it after it was completed all would be forgotten. He was right, it did suck but there was no money taken and no paperwork that could potentially follow you later. I learned alot from you 1SG Wolverton.

[@ronkeech908]

Was packing my shit for “deployment” to Australia, decided to have some beers. Passed out and woke up to my door being beaten in. Opened it up hungover and realized the shitstorm I was entering. Threw as much shit in my sea bag and put my cammies on. Ran outside and the whole squadron was already in formation. What I didn’t realize was I had the wrong cammies on. We had switched to deserts and I was still wearing woodlands. The whole two months I had the wrong cammies along with one tennis shoe and forgot my laptop charger 😂

[@DudeWithAnAccent]

Got burned in a similar way by a boot MSG in Tbilisi, back in 2007! Damn Blue Falcons! The MSG program is the biggest joke ever…

[@JK-uo2jv]

As a 1SG, if there was company f-ups that never made it to BN or BDE, a 4856 was waiting with a plan of action that was 18 hours on, 6 off for 2 weeks including weekends. It got the point across without resorting to judicial punishment. Even some BN level f-ups were handled that way. I had a good CSM that always supported my judgements.

[@Donner906]

I just went to the commander and snitched. It got many soldiers article 15s.

[@jameslucas5590]

This is not my Vietnam Father In Laws Marine Corp.

[@tufelhunden5795]

A good friend of mine told me after I EAS that there were changes in the younger NCO corps shortly after I left. He stayed until retirement. I used to do the old wall to wall counseling and/or let the individual make a decision between NJP or being my dirty job beitch for the next 30 days. Never had anyone choose NJP. Surprisingly had a great crew that worked well.

[@billyhawkins721]

I first joined in ‘06 and my first roommate after arriving at my first command in Jan of ‘07 was an MA (Navy MP). I had a little bit of a drinking problem at 19 but never got out of hand. One day, I walk in the room and cracked a bottle and poured a shot. My roommate gets up and as he’s walking out I ask him if I can borrow a DVD. He says sure and goes on his way. Before the opening ads are even over, I hear a knock at the door. Civilian military police officers.. I wasn’t even close to drunk so I invited them in and I stood in front of the booze while they looked around. We then walked outside and were standing by the cruiser when they radio precinct telling them “we’re here with Mr Hawkins and he doesn’t appear to be drunk nor does he have alcohol in the barracks room.” Precinct comes back and says “well his roommate is standing right here and says he has multiple bottles of alcohol in the room.” My face melted and the officers said “okay, where’s it at or we’re getting a warrant.” My CO actually told me he wasn’t going to be hypocrite because I wasn’t causing problems, just drinking. He still had to “award” the NJP but he suspended the actual punishment for six months. Granted, I was an E-1 so he couldn’t take much. 😂 Many people told me, you can drink at my house after I refused to tell them where I got the booze. I’m now an E-8 and I am kinda glad that he chose to do it because I slowed my drinking down a lot after this incident. I was commended for not whipping his ass but I expressly told the head guy at the precinct that if they didn’t remove my shit and move me to another room, I certainly would. He told me he would put me under the jail if I did that lol but I never saw the roommate again after that and I don’t even drink at all anymore. Don’t even remember the guys name.. but he was a Peter Griffin lookin MF’r from Boston doing a National call to service tour. I’d probably smack him today just on principle alone but it did kinda save my career.

[@AuleileiMMA]

I've seen so many Marines have their careers ruined because they had depression. Kicking dudes out for asking for help. I kept that to myself and told others to do the same. You don't gotta tell the staff and O about it. Just make an appointment with chaps or through tricare.

[@Unruly6ixx]

Haha should of known that you tell a core man and everyone and there mother know and then everyone don’t like you after that well not everyone just those with sticks up there ass which is majority of them there

[@xSGTxPEPPERx]

Same thing in the army. Unfortunately not everyone makes it to out process much less make a claim with the VA because they valued their careers over their own lives. The cycle continues.

[@Unruly6ixx]

@@xSGTxPEPPERx it sucks honestly everyone has there breaking point and in boot camp they destroy you and they don’t build you back they just add few things here and there I was mentally stronger before the military than after they do a good job breaking you but don’t fix you.

[@FedkaSlovanich]

my buddy in Canada had two of his buds kicked out for depression without pay or health insurance, nobody looked for help after that and a month later they were hauling ass to a meeting and saw a private first class swinging dead 4 stories up outside the barracks

[@clone3632]

My buddy is an MSG and he told me about this a few days ago. He was so freaking pissed over it.

[@5678sothourn]

Soldiers are held to a higher standard. Meet those standards man. Have some pride.

[@mattf2146]

​@@5678sothourn Marines aren't soldiers.

[@5678sothourn]

@@mattf2146 If they ain’t soldiers, why they even considered military then?

[@samrester6254]

@@5678sothourn Get a clue about what you are talking about, or don't comment. The fact that mattf2146 corrected you and you don't understand how, should tell you something.

[@mattf2146]

@5678sothourn Marines are marines. Army is soldiers. You DO NOT rat on your fellow soldiers / Marines. That is the standard, or at least it used to be. Minor infractions like this should stay at a unit level.

[@hoovy2319]

I used to work with a lady that had a notebook she kept on her all the time. If you did anything she didn’t like, she’d write down what you did, who was there and when you did it and at the end of the week, she’d march on into the managers office and go down the list

[@broswater9359]

"Now, the WO has had enough of you guys! Now, the WO is going to start to write down some paperwork!" Scariest threat I ever heard lol.

[@kurtvonreinhardt]

The “stop snitching on each other” definitely sounded like the disappointing, defeated drill instructors I used to know

[@chainsawsubtlety9828]

Welcome to the Modern Military.

[@patrickhenry8425]

Why I got TF out!

[@patriotbob]

They should have a blue falcon award that comes with negative promotion points. This award can be nominated by any rank and once evidence is proven it can not be denied by command.

[@TheAbberDoo]

They give that same award to people for stocking a vending machine on a ship, AKA doing their job. It doesn’t surprise me.

[@BarkingRugers]

Congratulations on making a career for yourself while... while having a career for yourself. No seriously man. You hit the nail on the head more times than not. Good on ya for holding the line. Most of us had to wait until we retired or got out to truly voice our displeasure. Can't wait to watch you send it once there's no repercussions 😂

[@jasonbrewer6714]

It's all good until someone sells him out for being a dirtbag. People aren't going to cover for a snitch.

[@floridacracker_]

​@jasonbrewer6714 which is why ppl need to do things the old fashion way and stop rating ppl out. Show their good by their work ethic rather than 💋 ass. Snitches get stickers lol

[@robertsears8323]

So you must be one of these evil drunks that is a massive disgrace to the USA.

[@gman90049]

Blanket Party for that Snitch. I came in one time like those other Marines. After 30 minutes of getting yelled at from my GYSGT. Last thing he said was some parting advice,”if you are going to howl at the Moon in the pale Moon light, then you should be ready to Soar with the Eagles in the Morning.” As a Marine you cover your fellow Marine to left and right.

[@brianb5543]

You can't blanket party NCOs.

[@5678sothourn]

Soldiers are held to a higher standard. Meet those standards man. Have some pride.

[@whatevermightwork]

My thought exactly

[@brianb5543]

1. Those are marines. 2. What are you talking about? Because blue falcons exist in every branch. What should have happened is that buddy fucker should have told those 3 marines that he screwed that they owe him a favor for keeping out of the public eye that they fucked up.

[@samrester6254]

@@5678sothourn These are not soldiers.

[@jwizthewise]

Damn he got an award…..for snitching 😂 good job battle

[@ddt281]

Snitch - Blue Falcon - Douche

[@NCCoder]

They're rewarding him because that's the kind of person they now want in all the armed forces.

[@randomandy8369]

it's scary but you have to have people like that if you plan on using your troops on home soil aginst your own people. what better kind of A-hole to give a gun and train to shoot civs?

[@tboneonthedobro]

As a former MSG, the obsession with the curfew for grown adults is ridiculous. You're trusted with classified info and the literal keys to the SCIFs but not with managing your own libo. Hell, the DetCmdr is the only one allowed access to liquor in the Marine House.

[@a-a-ronbrowser1486]

I heard a couple days ago there was no more bar at the house. I got out in 07, the hardcore rule was no girls in the rooms and of course curfew.

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

It's discipline. If you're told to have your ass back on post by 0200, you have your ass back on post by 0200. As Col. Jessup said in A Few Good Men, Marines don't get to choose what orders they follow. I mean, if you don't really HAVE to be on post by 0200, do you HAVE to be at the range at 0800? Do you HAVE to be on parade at 1400 to listen to the base commander? Do you HAVE to be at Point Bravo by 1000 to lay down covering fire for a casevac?

[@tboneonthedobro]

@@the_once-and-future_king. If the order is given, obviously you follow it if you're not a turd. That's not the point. Why does MSG command insist on a global 0300 libo? Why not leave it up to Det Cmdrs and RSOs to decide what's appropriate and safe for their post?

[@stevekarrick7021]

Wow!!! A lot has changed! At least when I was on MSG we had a bar NCO that had access…. I guess the MSG can’t be trusted…

[@johnathinmartin2630]

😂😂😂 you really thing our little blue falcon got off scott free? 😂😂😂 His trust is dropped.

[@italjahcorntrashroller]

Wow he broke every oconus unwritten rule.

[@johnydsmithson6834]

I got a YT ad from Homeland encouraging civilians to snitch on their political neighbors "see something, say something" or whatever. We all know where we are now...

[@ronbaer67]

Color revolution type of shit right there

[@chainswordappreciator3022]

​@@ronbaer67 disidents go the gulag. We're Soviet union 2 bread line boogaloo.

[@richardhead1727]

@@chainswordappreciator3022 My sides

[@StabbinJoeScarborough]

​@@chainswordappreciator3022 👍🤣😂😆

[@michaelreuter2524]

The cal of the Blu-Falcon: "FUCK ALLUH YA'LL!"

[@RoDo26EOD]

Had to buy sooooo many gallons of coffee and dozens of donuts while stationed in Hawaii.

[@briant6333]

Bravo Foxtrot --- we hoisted a giant Blue Falcon over Al Asada until they figured out what it was.

[@lcamjrlc]

As an MSG this guy will not be forgotten

[@who346]

as a E4, we have our ways, he wont be forgotten either....in the field.

[@Jhorne84]

As a MSG guy who was royally fucked for NOT being a blue falcon, I approve this guy.. FUCK THEM!!

[@andersonolmos582]

Clayton J. Lonetree Look this MSG up. Yup.

[@ubcroel4022]

@@who346 So pre-meditated assault?

[@jasonmcdonald4100]

@@ubcroel4022 nco’s are much more clever than that

[@Coloneldad5]

Remember, "Buddy" is only half a word.

[@AnonNotAnonymous]

Facts. I was a Corporal and was getting back after 2 weeks of leave. I thought my leave ended at 1159. Even told my 2 Sgts the day before my leave ended at that time and would be getting a haircut in the morning. Well I was mistaken and my leave ended at 0730. Even though I let them know, instead of telling me I was incorrect with the time, they waited until I got in to then lay into me about being UA and proceeded to threaten me with a 6105 and then gave me a negative page 11. That was the first time I was ever late and up to that point I had been meritoriously promoted to Corporal and did everything a high performing Marine should do. 1 mistake and they were quick to jump all over it. Got promoted to Sgt a couple months later. They weren't happy 😂

[@cameronkohl416]

I was a leading petty officer in the navy and firmly believed in handling things at the lowest level possible. You can come up with some pretty creative corrective actions and not ruin a sailor’s career. They learn a lesson, your people don’t look like fuck ups to the command, and they will respect you more and not be afraid to come to you when there is an issue. If anyone from the outside came to me and asked what is going on with so and so? I always followed it up with I’m handling it.

[@davidcleaver3300]

Solid responce! Acknowledged!!

[@1337penguinman]

I always told my guys "You keep me out of trouble, I'll keep you out of trouble."

[@USMC6976]

Yes, you can do that. But when you are required to make entries at specific times, there is no going back to cover up. You do the handling when there is no official paperwork that could prove something happened when you are pretending it didn't.