Serius Jones vs Lush One in a faceoff over money

[@thebigfactspodcast]

I'm rewatching this right now

[@Redman092000]

Same I remember this from years ago

[@MidTierVillain]

This radio bit will go down in BattleRap History, lmao!

[@LyricalMurderer1]

I can see exactly what happened now after this interview: Lush booked Jones flights, hotel and agreed to pay the amount that was contractually agreed upon for the battle. At the last minute, Jones' manager wanted a direct flight. Lush obliged and shelled out the extra amount needed. Jones arrived for the battle, checked into the hotel and decided that it was "subpar" and didn't want to stay there. He decided that he would PAY OUT OF HIS OWN POCKET to book a higher-end (read: more expensive) hotel. Now we don't know whether Lush agreed to pay for this or whether there was a limit, but seems like based on the interview, HE AGREED. So to honor his word, Lush does owe Jones the money for the hotel. However, Jones needs to chill the hell out because from what it looks like, he has already been paid for the flight and for PART of the battle. Whatever else is remaining, it was because HE decided that there needed to be a change to what was contractually agreed upon or as the host mentioned the budget for the event may have gotten slashed; both outside Lush's control. We don't even know how expensive the new hotel reservation was? From all we know, it may have been a 5-star hotel! As much as i hate Lush and have always said he was a bad business man, I can see clearly that Jones is such a primadonna, crybaby bitch.

[@FineAsDesign1]

lush missing the point. doesnt matter if somone was paid 95% of what was agreed cause its not 100% bottom line. How can somone be greedy for wanting what was agreed. No one in the world should take anything less in life to what they're owed.

[@anth0nyandrew]

this shit is still hilarious almost 5 years later😂

[@sammyj184]

5 years ago it was a classic and it’s a classic today

[@foxxxmoney]

this interview was better than all the battles that night i can't stop laughing

[@sammyj184]

foxxxmoney ahaha ya I know right

[@roslynastwood6786]

Facts!

[@MilwaukeeMisfit909]

No fair having a 2 on 1 battle of Jones & Lush's drug problem vs Lush. 3-0 Jones n Cocaine

[@kweninc]

lmao lmao lol

[@Ggv19128]

😂😂😂👌🏼

[@Goonie856]

**Meth

[@sammyj184]

Omg I died when jones stayed on the phone and jumped in the convo again... Jones is hilarious

[@AT-ts1se]

lol facts

[@sammyj184]

+A T I had to come back and listen to this again.. 6 months later. Props to serius jones! He's hilarious

[@arya721]

I'm trying to understand why lush never denies the coke allegations

[@Trudon]

cos dat nigga is on dat white girl...mary, keisha, molly....arsonal song

[@soullessazrael]

He did a bump of coke during the disaster Cortez battle so it's not really something that he can hide.

[@AMartyrsRecords]

I sold him crack before

[@AMartyrsRecords]

really? If that nigga did I'm gonna sell him some dope

[@stanleydouglas3027]

I come back to this at least once a month lmao

[@ghostkilla346]

Stanley wild 100s

[@sammyj184]

+ghostkilla346 same it's so funny - serius is a smooth dude

[@mauricedavis1740]

😆😆😆

[@O.G.G.]

Hell yea...seeing Lush on No Jumper, this don't even sound like him.

[@lebogangradebe4323]

You're on camera drinking lean 😂😂😂😂😂😂. That part cracks me up

[@teedubb71]

Serius: Yo Lush, did you get shot at the other day? Wing: OH SHIT! lmao!!!

[@AMVRebirth]

That shit came from left field lol

[@highlife503]

Jones Poppin caps

[@gzptv3654]

Damn this made Lush look bad

[@kappas6344]

Jones: Alright brother you have a nice safe evening and Merry Christmas to you too. Lush: *Where you at jones*

[@thatpart]

This is still a fantastic rewatch, all these years later. Some Internet Bloodsports levels of rage. 😂

[@trevness]

Lush kinda sounds like Sean Penns character in Carlitos Way

[@IsaiahKeene]

Caps ya new blog brought me here 🔥😆

[@jovanboldin3369]

Facts!

[@mauricedavis1740]

damn 🤦🏾‍♂️ i heard this live and still have to revisit every once in awhile...😆

[@DarkReapersGrim1]

Battle rap, from the street corners to the online radio shows.

[@HeavenSunArcadez]

this shit is mad entertaining man, i could listen to this shit everyday wish i saw this when it came out.

[@BrotherhoodWilliams]

I'm at the beginning wish i did too

[@jkjkjk1116]

+jeice alexander listen to dizaster go off on murda mook its classic

[@mus176]

This is a classic moment in afr

[@tswagg504]

Battle rap is a young industry...it's full of a lot of people with no business experience learning it on the fly...things will get better as the major leagues learn from their mistakes and find better ways to operate........ One thing is for sure, Battle Rap is now a business and there is no turning back now.......I just hope the major leagues maintain control before the big corporate entities hi-jack it.

[@RiversideBando2]

THATS THAT POWDER

[@spudcotton5234]

Angry Fan was super bias! Jones never really answered anything he just talked over Lush.This shit wild!

[@HorizonHipHop]

yeah, and after hearing the full story about how Lush was paying people out of his own pocket, because Alki (the dude who threw the event and owns FilmOn tv) never paid up, Lush tried his best to get people paid and get the event done.

[@yardmarley]

"Why was somebody shootin at a white boy that host battles?"-Jones

[@HecBoggie718]

Because he owes the coke dealers some serious money!!!!

[@gregoryg1303]

😆

[@Goonie856]

Damn I remember listening to this Live on blogtalk.. those were the days on AFR it was lit 🔥 AFR and Battle Rap Arena

[@annamarie7062]

Lush acting hard pissed me off so I can't imagine how the battlers who are owed money feel.

[@ThePrimeSinisterr]

I feel Jones' pain. I really do..., but he needs to understand that Lush can't pay him, because he smoked all the money away like how Gator in "Jungle Fever" smoked the T.V. It happens. That money is in the air now, on its way to heaven. It's ok...just let it go... They'll be more opportunities my son...

[@eddiesille9628]

Haaa

[@Magneticitist]

LOL that bread is casper bro

[@AT-ts1se]

lol yeah

[@AT-ts1se]

lol yeah

[@tattoosbychrisg]

I wanna hear more about this! I hope the other battle rappers speak about it

[@eskititbay2la2NC]

Classic 😂😂😂

[@thecitysmotor570]

Whoever dude was that was talking to lush needs to take over the show. He comprehend and communicate better than Angryfan do.

[@18hallmark]

Serius Jones is talking TRUTH bottom line is if you sign a contract you have to pay up, you can't give bouncing cheques or say there getting over paid after agreeing a fee....REAL TALK.

[@twistoffate01]

People pick and choose who's money to fuck with. Because certain people wouldn't let that shit slide and they know it.

[@Eagriffin26]

Jones got me dying lmmfao pill poppin swagg

[@DavidJ704]

"Ask Lush. HE KNOWS!" - Serius Joenes

[@princealirogers]

Love

[@SikeNawGaming]

If there is an Agreement, and a person complete's their part of the contract, pay them what you owe them, plain and simple. Some of that disrespect Lush one was doing wasnt even necessary. You pay what you owe and Honor contracts that you give out. Bad look for Lush.

[@vinlloyd5836]

SikeNaw Gaming right

[@kingsaintthomian3403]

Exactly

[@konshismusic]

"You're not a dry snitch? You got a whole timeline full of......" lol

[@stevendasilva9287]

Hahahahahaha bro this is the funniest interview I ever heard. Lush one is calling jones a bitch.lol these 2 guys got me rolling

[@sayitaintsotv299]

Lush had 10,000 excuses..... He got paid He didn’t get paid cuz he’s not a good business man It’s like when you own a stamping and it’s going out of business 😂 You breeched the contract Etc

[@KontryBoy706]

truth was Lush didn't have the money from Alki David yet.... he was paying people with money he didn't have lol he was letting people sign contracts without knowing if he was actually gonna get ALL the money or not... which is FUCKED UP

[@lovetronlawrence2482]

Lush admitted that Rappers are OWED money. Cant trust The Enemy.

[@909Pooksta]

Jones 3-0

[@noble-bu7fr]

Lol

[@BigBird104]

Hahaha!

[@warrendchild]

Lush definitely a police.

[@MrCoughupalung]

Jones never said how much he was paid. He just stood quite and avoided the question.

[@dj_dominic]

#Wow That was the best show I listened to... Serius Jones was off the phone 📞 for like 45 sec and came back like #wtf. Lush was a clown for that one.LMAO 😂

[@iAintSayDat]

Lush One is lying. No one is on his side. And the Ether shit was awful.

[@Joeyfingaz1]

Classic interview lmao put it in the books

[@ericperry27]

This shit is so hard to follow. Both cutting each other off. Lush aint answering the most imperative question...... Lush just hurling insults... Its sad...

I would LOVE to meet guys like Lush One AND Dizaster in an elevator! I can NOT stand fake tough guys, yo. All of that calling people "faggots" and other stuff out of their names is corny. Lush and Dizaster are the same exact kinda lames. They're tough when they have back up, over the phone, and on the Internet. If they're real Fresh Coast representatives, they're making the West look bad.

[@TheKreamKing]

Diz is actually about that life tho, I didn't think so at first either

Nah, Diz is AROUND people that are about that life. But he, himself, is a GoofBall.

[@kevindelaney7624]

Cass and his people had Diz shook he's pussy

[@walkwithme]

+Melvin Bryant this is why the west is corny and the midwest and east coast is popping as far as battle rap goes... KOTD popping also. grindtime is finito.

[@thecirclemovement]

jones comes off more honest but wayne made the most relevant point, if you haven't been paid whats in the contract why don't you take it to court.

[@MallLaSoul]

It can cost more in legal fees and lawyer money over that four or five grand he's owed. Not worth it

[@tomazas08]

Mall La Soul if he wins,it will be by Lush side

[@DarkReapersGrim1]

Unfortunately, people will see Jones as a traitor to the "street code" even if he goes to court for bread owed to him. In the street, people expect people from the street to handle debts with violence, not the court system.

[@thecirclemovement]

Batman i agree but not when your dealing with a corporate company

[@shaq33ish]

People will call jone a snitcg

[@andrecoleman1856]

I think Serius did some shit with the flights and hotels then maybe kinda implied intimidation on Lush to reimburse him and Lush agreed then had second thoughts. Also Lush admitted because of the rich financial backer acting funny that the money was funny and Serius was the one rapper that really became vocal about it which embarrassed Lush even more than the bad aspects of the event already had. Lush was trying to save face with this interview.

[@AMartyrsRecords]

you stupid...all of them have said lush robbed them

[@phillip1991]

Lush one is a legend

[@thedaily30]

I love how this still pops in in my recommended feed in 2021 💯💪🏾🔥

[@wizethoughtsrevolve7610]

"This man is a fool and a drug addict" Ctfu I'm done

[@Magneticitist]

this whole conversation should actually help entice mainstream investors considering it shows that they could promise both the managers and artists a certain amount but pay them less and get away with it. a contractually agreed amount of money was paid, or it wasn't. not that damn complicated.

[@kevmack101]

Lush is a bad business man he should have just paid him the little money and save his brand and reputation

[@eddiesille9628]

Word!

[@samnangpoe]

+KevMack Olson i guess we can assess what the fuck happened with Grindtime lol

[@HorizonHipHop]

@@samnangpoe there's a lot of things that lead to Grindtime downfall, Lush is not a big one

[@bulletsandcaskets45]

Sounds like lush one is the middle man for what the billionaire said he was gonna negotiate and everybody going in on lush one when he said he emptied his account. So if emptied his account you are gonna get rubber checks and its fucked up to do rubber check thing its dishonest. Lush got played by the billionaire and that's kinda what he was saying in the last clip of this interview

[@bulletsandcaskets45]

But lush sounds real suspect on other shit he is talking about smh

[@sheilareynolds]

lush has been a clown since grindtime. the fact that he is still even somewhat relevant disgusts me. kotd should've got rid of this dude a long time. disgraceful human being.

[@sammythabull245]

This guy Lush One sounds like a real sheisty guy. Why doesn't he just be straight. Bounced check. Bad business.

[@detrellmetoyer5607]

If u listen closely, Jones is only complaining off getting reimbursement from a flight and a hotel that he didn't feel was worthy because it wasn't in Hollywood so he booked his own an wanted to be paid for it, all this over an extra 4gs smh

[@HorizonHipHop]

so he could fly out his hoes lol

[@awesome-o7220]

jones won't say how much he got paid..not a good look for your argument bru

[@Lvl75Zapdos]

Serious should've been this tough when Diz marked him out 😂😂😂😂

[@RespectfullyImNotReadingThat]

Delusional

[@gmr7494]

lush is a rich kid born from privilege. his father is a famous Hollywood director. I think it's funny how lush acts all hard and trying to be street when we know he's a fake

[@yung007jr]

Oceans808 being street has nothing to do with whooping somebody ass..done seen niggas in the hood get whooped on a regular

[@HorizonHipHop]

Lush isn't rich lol. Just because your parents have money doesnt mean you do

[@adrenalin9588]

This white boy is not tuff why is he acting like this.

[@im2tall1]

18:10 Serious Jones went into full confessional!!LOL

[@ConcaveEarth100]

I never released how much Lush sounds like Jonah Hill lol

[@blacurts20]

ctfu

[@zazaisthechamp]

Caps ruined this man getting exposed

[@ptl647]

jones hang up the phone lollll

[@mohannadshadid205]

Moral of the story is to just say NO

[@cagedbeast9562]

i dont think Lush One answered 1 question directly ...

[@sammyj184]

Caged Beast that's a dust head

[@jerelmatthews23]

Hilarious and informative interview...When Jones pretended to get off the phone...lmfao...classic shit...But the fact is Lush owes Serious Money. Serious going hard about it and Lush wanna pay him when it's convenient for Lush. Bad business on Lush end no matter how u cut it. If u don't wanna hear somebody bullshit then pay em what u owe. Sure Serious could be classier about it but that's just not who he is.

[@DavidMalbranque]

15:00

[@DNATURAL100]

the people that cut the check hype you up, you in turn hype everyone else up, the project gets done and the check writers either don't pay or slow pay.. classic entertainment move ...

[@ISnoopDoggyStyleHoes]

Where's that tayroc vs dna recap

[@Trudon]

jones vs lush sm5

[@deepwaters7885]

#1 rule: never believe a coke head when it comes to money. "cocaine is a hell of a drug"

[@ThaCorporate]

I'm with Lush on that one. If ya'll battle rappers got a problem go holler at judge joe brown lol

[@babyblueLEGEND]

4:27, All that nonsense Lush was talking, he loss. He's trying to say ''You didn't get paid because you dont know how to act''. Fuck that, slavery is OVER.

[@1SuperD1]

Lush is full of ish. He is dodging questions left and right. Jones seems like he had some last minute changes but he has proof that he is still supposed to be paid.

[@BrotherhoodWilliams]

this shoulda been had 1M views

[@ptl647]

jones how much did u get pay why cant he anwers

[@doeboy84]

Artist don't like putting out how much they're getting paid to perform because a promoter might hear the # & now he won't want to pay what the artist ask for.

[@HorizonHipHop]

@@doeboy84 why would they not want to pay what they ask for? Its just a battle rapper thing, they want to brag about making 50k for a battle when most of em barely make a band or 2

[@cutthroattruthnews4766]

You can't just not pay out the full contract because they don't fuck with you? Was the contract fully paid? That's what I wanna know.

[@cozzzo3614]

Lush on the brown dust

[@Levitationaldelusion]

Queue "the People's Court" theme music right about now...

[@JoeyB44]

IF I WAS JONES AND GOT OVER 20 I WOULD JUST CHARGE THE REST TO THE GAME.. LUSH IS WRONG THO..

[@MallLaSoul]

Stop pocket watching, it don't matter what he got paid

[@soodipop3925]

He said i paid everyone else's hotel fee but not siriuss hotel fee. Then in the same breath says he did.

[@WorldEndMedia]

Somebody call Judge Judy lol

[@SyndicateTheLonelyGun]

You can't believe nothin lush says. He changed his story, at least 3 times. Hold this L.

[@3rdwardbeatz]

I cant stop laughing.. lush a fool & jones a diva lol S/O to caps for getting this classic interview

[@K4PO]

Classic show caps!

[@jenniferhutchens1168]

serious jones should go check him personally but it don't seem like he will again

[@HorizonHipHop]

lol, yall really think these battle rappers are real, 90% arent about that life, they rather air their business out on phone radio like females

[@soullessazrael]

I guess it's a breach of contract to release the amount serius Jones was supposed to be paid and the amount he was paid just saying those two numbers could have resolved this issue but Jones didn't want to address they just jumped from it was almost 20 G's to it was more than has been paid in this whole battle career to Jones saying it was less than what he got paid for jin

[@HorizonHipHop]

battle rappers dont want those numbers to get out because then they can't brag about making ridiculous amounts of money. If they paid Jones more than 5k they overpaid him lol, he's fell off and no one checks for his battles anymore

[@russellstevens9927]

As quiet as it's kept, Lush nor the KOTD, was ever really the same since this interview. Now, they basically just stick to booking west coast battlers, these days.

[@arya721]

Yo am i getting refunded for the ppv? lol

[@Trudon]

no sir

[@K3VYK3V1]

lush one's word against a half dozen battle rappers saying he fucked them over.. lush one is the bill cosby of battle rap!

[@mikeywilliams5511]

Ok i hope u read this angryfan. U started the confusion. 4 parts to this 1) when business roll back ur original budget because of whatever excuse they have ur too late to argue ur side. What lush was saying he came out of pocket to cover the dividend. So rappers like serius jones need to understand that lush isn't to be blamed of how the money is handled. He was dealt a bad hand n tried his best to make it work. 2) jones needs to know lush is lush n not filmon who funded the event. Lush said he ain't fucking with them ne more. Filmon is responsible for paying. I can take a wild guess that the cheques didn't have lush name on it it wud have filmon or alki david name. 3) lush did say he owes rappers money n did plan on paying out his pocket to get them their money. Lush does not have to do this but he is. As for the boston card that isnt filmon or lush its another cat who is funding the event. Come on kotd fcmg didn't have nothing to do with ether. 4) i think jones is flat out wrong and angryfan u should have put him in his place he never let lush speak all i heard was jones loud ass voice this whole interview. Jonesshould be grateful he got something aswell as the other rappers. Only if lush is telling the truth about the budget being cut for the event. We need answers n lush can't n dont have em for us.... bring on alki filmon rep. But to be honest they'll just do what jones did just slander lush.

[@Hulk247]

If lush been the person that been giving out the money, then the rappers are going to go to him for their money... Now if lush STATED that he is just runner/face of the event n NOT the One funding the event then they are wrong for going after lush. But it sound like lush was acting like he was the big money man n it back fired..

[@Soufparkmack]

Lush still never answered the question, nigga know he owe Jones some bread

[@knotcw]

I think that billionaire saw Lush was a easy target and took advantage. Whatever opinion you had about the event it did break the pay per view record for a battle event so money was made Lush was just an employee on a payroll he had no access to any of that loot

[@AMartyrsRecords]

cass name is too big also. If he said lush and them didn't get his chicken game,DMX,and other rappers and fans wouldn't buy his shit

[@illrex5545]

Lush was given money to take care of all the expenses

[@CrysInChrist]

nigga smoked up Jones money....this shit funny bro...why am I just seeing this??