Somehow LeBron's Rebounds are Getting Even More Ridiculous

[@BrightNights645]

This dude is funny. He’s not only exposing LeBron, but the entire NBA.

[@edgybravo4287]

💯

[@Scaley_Reptile]

Cant rememebr who, but seen a past player a while back ranting about how he counted 53 UNCALLED moving screens.. in a single game.. Well.. if theres that many screens then the carry would have to be in the thousands per gam, atleats hundreds of UNCALLED turnovers every game, I EXPECT a triple doulbe from a 2020s star.

[@stevelau7694]

The only real other person who has done this consistently lately is Luka doncic, maybe James Harden And Russell Westbrook before

[@willf6856]

@@Scaley_Reptile literally every screen in nba now they dont give 1 step, have their feet spread all the way out leaning in with both hands up pushing the defender....nba is unwatchable.....

[@jonq8714]

He and Skap doing the work.

[@thaleslima3043]

The third rebound is the best rebound in NBA history, I've never seen anyone get a rebound without even touching the ball. Simply sensational, Lebron has to teach this technique to us mere mortals.

[@Edo_Hashirama]

Not only did he not TOUCH the ball. He was on offense at about the halfcourt line and got awarded a DEFENSIVE rebound

[@thaleslima3043]

@@Edo_Hashirama I didn't notice that. Was it counted as a defensive rebound? If so, then that was even more impressive. He get a defensive rebound while attacking, the man is magical. Now I'm starting to understand why they call him the GOAT.

[@Edo_Hashirama]

@@thaleslima3043 I also went back just now to see if Trae got that rebound accounted for, and he does. Both Lebron and Trae got the exact same defensive rebound

[@jamieanderson6786]

No no you missed out on it, he actually trust in his teammates so much that he goes to half court to let them stop everyone, and he is such an unselfish team player that he allowed his team mate to get that board so he is credited with rebound. He is so good at making those around him better that he lifted Curry up to take over and win the Gold at the Olympics, so of course he deserved the MVP for that as well right? 😆😆

[@christophergibson3846]

Lebron is just that good. Whilst Lakers are on offence, he's already out there playing Defence. A true visionary.

[@trihard42069]

Saw a Twitter post tonight about how they claim john stocktons assist stats are fake or inflated because that era "sucked." It had 32k likes, and yet lebron gets fake stats every night... these people live in lala land.

[@stevonwhite8933]

I’m not an “old head”, but it really disgusts me the disrespect guys like John gets, and how much praise Bron gets as an “excellent passer”, when John has the one of the lowest T/o-A ratios in NBA history, while leading all time in assists and it isn’t close. Not to mention, one of the most underrated guard defenders of all time.

[@steveguse4481]

​@@stevonwhite8933And they always downplay his ability as "not athletic or flashy"....based squarely on his appearance... Because on the court he was a demon. Especially younger Stock. There's a highlight reel on YT where he crosses up Jordan a few different times and gets to the rim like MJ was stuck in cement. Does it get more athletic than that??

[@ezjones3646]

Man these ppl belong on moron mountain 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@WarriorsCherub999]

Stockton did get padded stats.

[@joshportie]

And in reality assists are harder to get back then and it was a tougher league.

[@BongoBingo17]

I cannot get over LeBron standing still time and again watching guys blow right past him. My HS coach would jave benched me the first time it happened.

[@geertminderhoud2641]

nah my coach would made have the whole team do weaves and suicides the next training just too piss on it....

[@MrSheduur]

Yeah, yet here we are with media bobble heads falling over themselves defending this clown, and a Lakers front office which has definately NO intention of even thinking about a trade or asking him to retire. This is the modern day NBA... and I am hating it.

[@rysev700x]

First thing a coach will teach you is bend your knees on defense. This guy stands straight up his whole career.

[@brianwilliams1454]

Yep

[@king-ghost1027]

Nba is unwatchable nowadays because of him

[@senzubean27]

Remember the whole MJ had his stats juiced thing? That story died pretty quick, part of the reason is because they don't want anyone to start digging into Lebron's juiced stats.

[@stealths15]

There’s a pattern. Anything they accused MJ of, it’s LBJ. E.g. padded stat, MJ has no left hand, MJ has limited moves, MJ faced old lakers, Nike marketed MJ, MJ has no 3s, etc.

[@theresak2024]

Any spotlight lingering on Lebron's stats for too long is detrimental to his 'GOAT Campaign', the flicker of a candle flame is enough to burn that entire fabrication to the ground! As for that collaborative effort by Klutch Sports & Tom Haberstroh to discredit MJ's DPOY award, that was nothing short of deplorable and quickly debunked by several reputable KZbin channels. Jonny Arnett's rebuttal video was particularly interesting. He analysed 10 home games from Jordan's DPOY season, alongside the actual game footage, including the 6 games referenced in Haberstroh's article. Arnett made a CRUCIAL discovery during his breakdown...over the course of those 10 games, he counted 15 occasions where Jordan got his hand on the opponent's ball, causing a deflection. Using today's rules, Jonny labeled these deflections as 15 blocks but noted that the Statistician did NOT credit these 15 blocks to MJ's official block count. So his blocks were essentially UNDER credited in those 10 games, however, his steals appeared to have been over credited, by a very similar number... It's glaringly obvious to any objective eye what happened here! There was no 'gifting' of steals, the Stat-keeper clearly interpreted those 15 blocks as STEALS and credited them to Jordan's official steal count...it's the only logical explanation for his block count being under credited! Ask yourself this question...if that Stat-keeper was intent on purposely inflating MJ's defensive stats, why would he UNDER credit his blocks? If his goal truly was to 'gift' defensive stats, he UNDOUBTEDLY would have credited every single one of those 15 blocks to Jordan's block count...but he didn't! Shockingly though, despite having made this significant discovery, Jonny STILL concludes at the end of the video that MJ's steals were intentionally inflated! Such a conclusion simply does not reconcile with the obvious surplus/deficit correlation that he discovered between the blocks and steals! Logic dictates that Statistician credited those 15 blocks to MJ's steal count and that is evidenced by Jordan's block count being UNDER credited by an almost identical number! The question is, was the Stat-keeper correct in labeling those blocks as steals or should they have been credited as blocks, as Jonny suggested? In order to accurately answer that question, more research needs to be conducted into the rules of that Era to determine exactly how steals and blocks were consistently interpreted and officiated at that time. I recently watched an old 1992 Bulls regular season game and noticed that MJ got his hand on the opponent's ball on 2 separate occasions, deflecting the ball towards two of his teammates, with the commentator announcing "another steal for MJ" on both occasions, indicating that steals were credited to the player causing the deflection...that's NOT consistent with how Jonny (or Haberstroh) analysed Jordan's steals in their analysis. Additionally, neither accounted for the fact that Stat-keepers in the 80's didn't have the luxury of accessing instant replay or multiple camera angles, so it's possible that an occasional block was misinterpreted as a steal. Finally, it's important to note that even if Jonny is correct, and his research into the rules of that Era determines that those 15 deflections should have been labeled as blocks and not steals, that would amount to stat misplacement, NOT stat inflation. There's a very important distinction there. In such case, MJ's official steal count for those 10 games would indeed need to be reduced by 15, however, his official block count would then need to be INCREASED by 15! So no matter which way you slice it, whether those 15 deflections are placed in the steals column or in the blocks column, it wouldn't change Jordan's overall defensive stats in those 10 games because you would essentially be subtracting 15 from one defensive count and adding 15 to another defensive count, which of course would have ZERO impact on the validity of MJ's DPOY award. The fact is, when you combine the total number of blocks and steals into one single figure, that figure almost perfectly matches the official box score, ergo ZERO evidence of stat inflation. Countless viewers echoed all of the above observations down in the comment section of Jonny's video months ago and in his defense he did reply to some of these comments, acknowledging the flaws in his original analysis of the steals, promising to release a follow-up video. Interestingly though, no such follow-up video has been released to date.

[@SpyderNga]

@@theresak2024lmao you just proved why they covered it up😭

[@steveguse4481]

It's always some new bullshit narrative

[@trowabarton321]

​It's projection @@stealths15

[@joshuabrzezinski2828]

His teammates must secretly hate him and pray for his retirement.

[@legenddaryl537]

we gonna watch these teammates later on in podcasts and laugh while they trash lebron

[@DuckMcDuckinson]

@@legenddaryl537 oh 100% will be seeing D-Lo talk

[@leeolie3728]

Who’s gonna play Scottie?

[@franciscocastillo1281]

I'd have more respect for them if they would tell him off. On or off court. Don't even walk on the court while he's on it. He wants all the accolades let him play 1 on 5.

[@krisalan5327]

​@franciscocastillo1281 i agree, i can't believe the paying fans for these games haven't turned on him, if i was there, he would know that I know that he is lazy, won't play defense, and can't hit a 3 pointer lol

[@alxbolt6225]

LeBron is like a dog sniffing around the table at dinner time waiting for some scrap to hit the floor so he can devour it.

[@robesch88]

Offensive rebounds are the true mark of a good rebounder, and lebron is probably one of the worst in history at 6'9". Jordan as a 6'6 guard grabbed way more offensive rebounds than him, yet the narrative has him as a "better rebounder and overall player" as mj

[@labynoe]

Correct. In his 15 year career Small Forward Dominique Wilkins grabbed almost DOUBLE the offensive rebounds LeBron got in his 22 years! And 6’8” Nique was shorter than LeBron too!

[@MikeBNumba6]

​@@labynoe insane. I don't know if that means Nique was a great rebounder or LeBron is trash at it😂

[@labynoe]

@ both. Nique was a beast and LeBron is trash!🤣

[@RVY13088]

@@labynoe Wilkins for me is still one of the most underrated players the game has ever seen. Now THAT is a guy that if he had more help would have had some rings.

[@labynoe]

@@RVY13088 Definitely.

[@souldry]

LeBron’s teammates need more help

[@DuckMcDuckinson]

They need to get oiled up for the next game man LeBrons playing!

[@king-ghost1027]

Lebron needs to stop turning the ball over so much,, maybe they'll have better chances at winning lmaooo ,, & I bet the NBA doesn't count every turnover lebron makes in games but they credit him rebounds when he's standing at the 3 point line smh

[@danielpauley9113]

Lebron’s team mates need less of Lebron

[@dev30]

My thoughts exactly!

[@mhfj3901]

LeBaby Oil is useless on defense. 😂😂😂

[@orneryone2]

Did he get the oil from Diddy the Diddler? 😵😵

[@kc-nl8zc]

You cannot even define it as defence.. he just stands there

[@stealths15]

Diddy’s LeMaid. 😂

[@MrReymoclif714]

@@orneryone2powder puff time.

[@williebelcher9303]

Get the diddy oil get the Diddy oil get the diddy oil get the Diddy oil

[@AustinSevigny]

this is so eye opening between your assist and rebound video, I wonder how long this has been occurring...also not sure if you watched the entire game but Hunter was sick and tired of lebron being able to push and shove and actually stepped up albeit very passive

[@AngryOldHoops]

Yes I saw it. And I saw Hunter get the best of him in the end. I feel like the entire league has to "take the high road" as LeBron takes the low road while telling everyone he takes the high road. The guy gets away with everything (can't even count all the elbows he has thrown and people he has shoved) and somehow the rest of the league is required to deal with it.

[@AustinSevigny]

@AngryOldHoops absolutely agree with the low road and also there comes a point where X amount of money still doesn't allow a human being to be treated like a rag doll you can push around, more players need to engage in verbal and physical altercations with him because he's not a fighter at all

[@BoomerofDoom]

Not sure about stat padding like this, but when it comes to league adjusting and literally changing the rules, just so he can look better out there (because trust me, when he entered the league, he would be a turnover machine, with all non called travels, on top of everything else), then you can say this started from day 1. I mean just go through the replays of those games, you'll be surprised on all the stuff you will notice, on your own.

[@canadianmisfit]

​@@AngryOldHoops one of these days he's going to throw an elbow and someone's gonna teach him 80 basketball. People getting tired of Lebron's bs.

[@Someguy8822]

The dude has pull in the league likely because it’s a business and they're trying to milk whatever $ they can out of the cow before he retires. That’s why helll never fail a drug test as well. Players know he has pull so they don’t want to sabotage themselves, look what Bron was able to do with his garbage ass son that should not even be in the league for example.

[@AntiNeoFascist]

Love these breakdowns showing just what his stats consist of. Would also love compilations of his illegal screens, elbows, shoves, displacements, etc. You point out individual ones, but a series of them would be even better. But I know, you're only one man. Keep it up.

[@Wallyworld30]

Brook Lopez has led the NBA in Contested shots the last 2 seasons in a row. He contested over 22 FGA's per game for 2 years straight and because he's always trying to contest the shot he rarely gets rewarded with a rebound. Just like we saw in your first clip of AD going for the block causing the offensive player to miss but Lebron gets rewarded with the rebound. When I see Pin Headed NBA talking heads complain about how terrible a rebounder Brook is I just shake my head. Brook might be the least selfish player in the NBA since he would rather attempt to divert a shot or box out another big to allow Giannis or Bobby Portis to rack up rebounds. Ben Simmons is less selfish but this is only because he's terrified of touching the basketball.

[@mavsfanforever7919]

Kevin Love was also accused of not trying defensively just to get a rebound

[@atlien1988]

Brook Lopez has always been a mediocre rebounder for his position though, regardless of contesting shots. He found a way to remain valuable in this era with switching everything, but he was never an elite rebounder.

[@MrSheduur]

@@atlien1988 and the reason is that he contests shots at a high volume, so he often will be out of position to box out and rebound. did you not read the post above?

[@toddstevens13]

@@MrSheduur Nope, that would of been counterproductive to his "reality", so you know, it never existed in his realm.

[@Louisianimal-225EBR]

⁠@atlien988 facts Brook washed as a bucks fan. And I watch them heavy… Brook a big reason we lose a lot of games as he can’t move and only defends right at the rim. Everything else a free bucket against him lol. And his rebounding is below average for 7’0/7’1 he can’t move well but I hope lakers trade us for him 😂😂

[@atlien1988]

I told folks Tom Haberstroh opened a can of worms when he decided to write that hit piece to diminish Jordan's MVP award. This was done all because this FRAUD still whines & complains about losing to Marc Gasol when his entire career been manipulated in real time. Most people don't actually watch LeBron play; they simply monitor the stats.

[@arizona_anime_fan]

not only did haberstroh cherry pick games that were hard to find, he also cherry picked games where the scoring looked weird on the surface. but his whole case was wrong because he failed to learn how the NBA used to score things. the issue with jordan's stats were the official scorekeepers didn't have access to replay unti the early 90s to double check. so scorekeeping had some "unique" methods to credit things which haberstroh either didn't know or didn't care to explain. basically on an airball, the scorekeeper would either reward a block, steal or rebound depending on his judgement of what was most likely to be the cause. so the ball goes up, misses the rim, and since the scorekeeper didn't have access to replay he'd make a judgement call on what happened. if the was a defender in the shooters face, 9 times out of 10 he'd get credit for a block. if there was no defender who could have altered the shot, they usually credited it with a steal, basically claiming it wasn't a shot attempt, but an errant pass attempt, especially if there was another offensive player somewhere near to the rim. the only time they'd call it a missed shot is if there was no credible defender to give a block to, and no one under the rim they could claim it was a bad pass, then they'd give the rebound on the airball and chalk it up to a missed shot. because thats how it USED to be scored, now days when we can do replay there were some weird jordan blocks or steals on some strange playes, and they looked like favoritism by the scorekeeper. yet if you apply the above standard you'll see the scorekeeper's crediting of steals and blocks is pretty much spot on with how they score it for every other player on the court. and thats the important part. this type of scorekeeping was standard in the nba for nearly 30 years at that point. there wasn't a different standard for jordan and say larry bird, they both would get credit for steals/blocks/rebounds the same way. was there room for interpretation in that scoring method, certainly.

[@leeolie3728]

Stats where it’s ats

[@theresak2024]

That collaborative effort by Klutch Sports & Tom Haberstroh to discredit MJ's DPOY award, was nothing short of deplorable and quickly debunked by several KZbin channels...Jonny Arnett's rebuttal video was particularly interesting though. He analysed 10 home games from Jordan's DPOY season, alongside the actual game footage, including the 6 games referenced in Haberstroh's article. Arnett made a CRUCIAL discovery during his breakdown, something Haberstroh failed to divulge...Jonny counted 15 occasions where Jordan got his hand on the opponent's ball, causing a deflection, and using today's rules he labeled these deflections as 15 blocks but noted that the Statistician did NOT credit these 15 blocks to MJ's official block count. BOTTOM LINE: In those 10 games, MJ's blocks were UNDER credited, however, his steals appeared to have been over credited, by a very similar number... It's glaringly obvious to any objective eye what happened here...there was no 'gifting' of steals, that Stat-keeper clearly assessed those 15 blocks as STEALS! It's the only logical explanation for Jordan's block count being under credited! Ask yourself this question...if that Stat-keeper was intent on purposely inflating MJ's defensive stats, why would he UNDER credit his blocks? If his goal truly was to 'gift' defensive stats, he UNDOUBTEDLY would have credited every single one of those 15 blocks to Jordan's block count...but he didn't! Shockingly though, despite having made this significant discovery, Jonny STILL concludes at the end of the video that MJ's steals had been inflated! Such a conclusion simply does not reconcile with the obvious surplus/deficit correlation that he had just discovered between the blocks and steals! Logic dictates that Statistician credited those 15 blocks to MJ's steal count and that is evidenced by Jordan's block count being UNDER credited by an almost identical number! The question is, was the Stat-keeper correct in labeling those blocks as steals...should they have been credited as blocks, as Jonny suggested? To answer to that question, more research needs to be conducted into the rules of that Era to determine exactly how steals and blocks were consistently interpreted and officiated at that time. I recently watched an old 1992 Bulls regular season game and noticed that MJ got his hand on the opponent's ball on 2 separate occasions, deflecting the ball towards two of his teammates, with the commentator announcing "another steal for MJ" on both occasions, indicating that steals were credited to the player causing the deflection...that's NOT consistent with how Jonny (or Haberstroh) analysed Jordan's steals in their analysis. Something else neither accounted for is the fact that Stat-keepers in the 80's didn't have the luxury of accessing instant replay or multiple camera angles, it's also possible that an occasional block was misinterpreted as a steal. Finally, it's important to note that even if Jonny is correct, and his research into the rules of that Era determines that those 15 deflections should have been labeled as blocks and not steals, that would amount to stat misplacement, NOT stat inflation. There's a very important distinction there. In such case, MJ's official steal count for those 10 games would indeed need to be reduced by 15, however, his official block count would need to be INCREASED by 15! So no matter how you slice it, whether those 15 deflections are placed in the steals column or in the blocks column, it wouldn't change Jordan's overall defensive stats in those 10 games because you would essentially be subtracting 15 from one defensive count and adding 15 to another defensive count, which of course would have ZERO impact on the validity of MJ's DPOY award. The fact remains, when you combine the total number of blocks and steals that Jonny tracked into one single figure, that figure almost perfectly matches the official box score, ergo ZERO evidence of stat inflation. Countless viewers echoed the same observations down in the comment section of Jonny's video months ago and in his defense he did reply to some of these comments, acknowledging the flaws in his original analysis of the steals, promising to release a follow-up video. Interestingly though, no such follow-up video has been released to date.

[@arizona_anime_fan]

@@theresak2024 Jonny Arnett failed in his video in the same way Haberstroh did. they both failed to realize how scorekeeping was done in the 50s-80s before the scorekeeper had access to replay. as i explained above, the problem in the jordan steal/block number is in how the scorekeepers scored airballs. without replay the scorekeepers were forced to make judgement calls. if there was a defender who could plausibly get a hand on the ball, an airball would be scored a block. if there was no defender who could alter the path of the ball, and an offensive player under the rim, they would often call an airball a pass attempt. and if a defender came down with the airball they'd credit them with a steal. finally if there is no one to pass to, and no one in their face, an airball will be scored an airball, and whomever gets it will get a rebound. if you watch those games and score them like this, the "variances" in the scorecard basically vanish. See Arnett and Haberstroh are too used to replay and don't understand how it used to be scored before replay.

[@feynmanschwingere_mc2270]

​@@theresak2024💯💯💯💯

[@michaelsilberg9059]

It's becoming more clear every day this is a coordinated show to promote LeBron and everyone involved knows it. He doesn't have to be sharp or put in effort, the show will go on. And so he's losing focus because he doesn't have to be focused to get the stats and the surrounding characters at all levels will push that narrative regardless.

[@AngryOldHoops]

Agreed. I started a video specifically breaking down ESPN's recent lies. It's still in the works and I'm sure they've lied a thousand times since then.

[@anonymousperson8903]

It's becoming more clear you are an idiot if you think this.

[@Bls-of1ld]

​@@AngryOldHoopsESPN is leftwing propaganda

[@MrReymoclif714]

@@AngryOldHoopsWNBA finals game was the highlight of the season for showing the world what tomfoolery is about.

[@MrBadmonkeycw]

I had a tinfoil hat moment, before the standings eliminated them, that the NBA might try and engineer another NBA cup win for the Lakers this year. And if the Lakers were to 'three peat' it'd give the paid for heads even MORE 'ammunition' 🤣🤣

[@GtheGreat1]

Masterful work AOH, this deserves a standing ovation 👏🏾 👏🏾👏🏾. Keep the content coming

[@juancarlosaguiluz]

And that is why I don't watch the NBA anymore

[@dericharris-c2b]

With them giving out rebounds out of thin air, it makes u wonder if he really scored all those points and passed Kareem 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@tiredoffools8929]

Yeah a lot of Bron’s points come off of missed shots and flop calls, and also phantom “And one” calls.

[@editorodriguez6554]

His game just like his is a fraud. Nothing he had done has been organic. Points of offensive fouls that weren’t called. Points of cherry picking. Travels carry’s and walks. His game is a joke alongside him and his idiotic fanbase. I don’t respect anything LeBron has done or this stats because they are manufactured

[@editorodriguez6554]

His game just like his is a fraud. Nothing he had done has been organic. Points of offensive fouls that weren’t called. Points of cherry picking. Travels carry’s and walks. His game is a joke alongside him and his idiotic fanbase. I don’t respect anything LeBron has done or this stats because they are manufactured

[@melo4308]

Not even a bron fan but y’all reaching lol 😂

[@dericharris-c2b]

@ sometimes it just makes u wonder Mike played less years but he averaged three more points a year idk not just LeBron it makes u wonder about all stars cause humans make mistakes.

[@Mark-Book]

Stats used to be incidental to the game. Now they're its focus. "We get paid a lot of money to play a game. Don’t get me wrong - there are challenges. But to call it pressure is almost an insult to regular people.” - Damian Lillard.

[@ncm2738]

Dame has and always will be a real one for that

[@feynmanschwingere_mc2270]

Dame is one of the FEW players i genuinely like in the NBA. Most of them are frauds.

[@omorgen]

thanks for doing the heavy lifting. We here knew Lebron was padding his stats, not playing defense. But i don’t think we knew the extent of the charade

[@TheSnHIMshow]

"So much for these more talented players" Let's put this on a shirt

[@standup3686]

I couldn't tell you how many times I see "everybody in the league now can do what Jordan was doing".. clearly that's a lie.

[@Skier10]

@@standup3686 the talent is there… the problem of this league is immaturity, improper development and improper coaching compared to back in the day. The result is the mess we see on the court today

[@jamieanderson6786]

Its a problem with the current generation (Gen Z) Im afraid, they all got bought up by their mummies and daddies being told they are already the best at everything and that "participation trophies are good". They deeply resent the greatness of past generations because its a challenge to have to work hard to be as good or exceed them, so they create propaganda to denigrate the past so they can continue on with been mediocre at everything. This is not just happening in sport, its everything from music to art to culture, they have built up this narrative that they are the innovators and creating progress but in reality their contribution to all of these things is mostly trash and poor quality imitations of stuff previous generations created and pioneered all dumbed down so can fit in a 15 sec Tik Tok clip.

[@TheSnHIMshow]

@jamieanderson6786 this is so on point holyfk

[@Skier10]

​@@standup3686 the talent is there… the problem of this league is immaturity, improper development and improper coaching compared to back in the day. The result is the mess we see on the court today

[@srenlertraine7431]

Remember how hard the Worm used to fight for rebounds? Getting locked up with huge dudes in the paint, pushing, leaning, elbows flying, tipping, tipping, grabbing. What a joke the league has become.

[@OlJackBurton]

Rodman even started kicking straight up in the air to keep people the hell away from him when he was going up for a rebound. Chuck would swing both of his elbows after securing a rebound. that's how much of a war it was to get the ball (rebound)...

[@HoiPolloi23]

He was Pound for Pound, the best rebounder that ever played the game. Always active, always engaged even in the last years of his career.

[@CWhyNot75]

The Lakers are going to replace Lebron with an inanimate carbon rod when he retires.

[@withlurv]

Excellent reference.

[@tiredoffools8929]

I thought that’s why they drafted Bummy for that 55th pick.

[@Fernando-vg4ym]

As someone mentioned before. The Lakers don't need to have a LeBron statue. They already have one on the court.

[@malcolmt7883]

The act of turning the ball over and then blaming the refs, should be named in honor of James. Look, he's doing a Lebron!

[@Mr.Wilson-xo8z]

😂😂👍

[@bodericksaplaco8038]

yeah I like your idea. It suits well with lejoke's antics

[@gregorycolvin9738]

He already has the flop named after him. It's called LeBroning.

[@roybatty-]

It's so funny when Lebron squares up to snatch a rebound. He looks like a dog about to be given a bone. I swear if he had a tail, it would be wagging. 😂

[@elmehdinafia1237]

You’re really the best at this 😂

[@wjatube]

What should we expect the game as currently being played is perfect for stat-padding. Floor spacing is insane. Bigs out away from the hoop. No defense. The difference is when a player does show max effort you see 50 pt triple dubs (See Jokic).

[@zarathustrasserpent1850]

I mean, you got to give a guy at least one offensive rebound, otherwise the triple double would look suspicious. So they looked for the play where he was closest to the Hawks basket in a rebounding situation, and marked it as a rebound.

[@AngryOldHoops]

No. He has zero offensive rebounds

[@MoralMonster]

How are any of these rebounds contested? I thought rebounds were counted when a player on the opposing team contests for the ball against another player? Hence, whoever comes up with the ball gets the rebound because it's earned.

[@davidriedy5977]

even if the stats were legit-the team LOST. That is what SHOULD be the focus. I guess it is the focus, but only so people can say "look at LeBron, he got a triple double but his team lost. LeBron needs more help"

[@userjlj]

yeah, you are right but then another narrative would come up like the "he needs more help" one.. this guy just needs to retire. PERIOD!!!

[@nostalgicgamer1363]

Shot by young after the steal is why basketball is partially unwatchable

[@larry7079]

Yea lame ass shit

[@anthonywarfield7348]

Yeah that was like watching my kids play. Just pathetic.

[@nostalgicgamer1363]

@anthonywarfield7348 curry got my oldest and his friends shooting from half court in elementary 😆

[@vonchriscordova4789]

This era has no “box out” and they glorified 10+ rebounds, this is a disgrace.

[@michellemaree3555]

Appreciating your work AOH from Australia 🇦🇺. Best money spent to get all of your content.

[@AngryOldHoops]

G’Day Mate

[@mlj_the_shield]

Not sure why my comments aren't showing, but here it is for a 3rd time - Hey @ AOH - the NBA just put up the wrong video clip for rebound #3. If you review the boxscore, they are giving Lebron a block + a rebound at the 7:32 to 7:29 mark. The clip they're showing is from 7:39 when Lebron was a statue at the top of the key. I have the league pass and went back and reviewed, and yes it's there. I don't know why but they used a 7:39 time remaining in their video clip, but the clip is wrong. It pains me greatly to point this out to you, but like you I'm a man of honor.

[@AngryOldHoops]

Well you’re just gonna have to remove this comment yourself and post it again 24 hours from now, lol. I’m done editing for a couple days. :)

[@1tw33t]

@@AngryOldHoops 🤣🤣

[@mlj_the_shield]

@@AngryOldHoops I'm just trying to let you know brother - it was a mistake from the clip they used, not from a NBA stats person. You know Michael Jordan never took nights off from editing, even at age 40. Larry Bird retired when he couldn't edit anymore. :)

[@Keith-re2jh]

4:25 his teammate got the rebound and passed him the ball so how does that count as a LeBron rebound

[@tonysimicich4974]

4:18 this should've been tallied as a "team rebound", a missed shot that goes out of bounds or hits the floor before being caught. These are, by rule, tallied to the team but not to the player.

[@burrdaddy]

7:21 is who Bron is. Not even pretend to try to play defense but then sprint for an easy stat rebound. That perfectly shows his method. He's a loose ball gatherer.

[@cs9409]

Kwame Brown Bust Life gave you a Shout Out, and now I’m here as a new subscriber. This is a great channel.

[@johnsmircic6650]

……….”with two beers in my hands”!!!!! AOH, you crack me up, luv it!!!!

[@docholiday9513]

He starting to play like Angel Reese while standing around like that John travolta meme 😂

[@Kashed]

Hahaha that awful coaching bit was great! What a clown that guy is. 😂

[@anonymousperson8903]

Way more reputable than AOH. He actually knows what he's talking about, has basketball knowledge, and isn't biased/delusional.

[@Kashed]

@ GTFOH awful coaching is a clown who just yells for clicks. One minute he says one thing and the next he contradicts himself. He’s a complete hypocrite and a grifter.

[@huaweichoche]

​@@anonymousperson8903 yeah, keep repeating that to yourself, won't save your queen

[@pikachureynolds1110]

​​@@anonymousperson8903you're so full of it I watched his videos. He isn't doing any real basketball analysis everything he says is basic but what do I know with my sports management and statistic degrees.

[@pikachureynolds1110]

​@@anonymousperson8903you just like screaming about how someone amazing one moment and then why he shouldnt have kids knowing how click baity of a tactic that is and it's just corny.

[@Mofoshow]

Having the 13th worst plus minus in the league speaks for itself

[@dervish816]

The saddest part of all these is that kids think all these are normal and emulates every little thing that these supposed to be basketball stars are doing. Then they come to basketball discussions and defend these stuff like talking about facts.

[@thefirstspartan1]

kinda fucked how the fake rebound got in - it does smell like a case of fraud; should be brought to the nba attention

[@feynmanschwingere_mc2270]

AOH deserves a Nobel Prize for this! I've been saying this for years, his entire career is one big plastic surgery: Fake. Fake hair Fake stats Fake accolades Fake awards Fake humility Fake skill Fake rings If you put NBA players to a lie detector test, and you asked them about LeBron, i bet my future life savings that most of them who played with him would call him the most overrated fraud in NBA history. LeFraud 😂😂😂

[@owenpoo2960]

there’s a reason he only passed mj in offensive rebounds last season lol, good effort king

[@labynoe]

It's the same reason LeBron has about HALF the offensive rebounds in his 22 year career as 6'8" Dominique Wilkins had in his 15 year career - because LeBron is LAZY by nature, and now that his athlecticism is gone that aspect of his game is too glaring to ignore.

[@DanielJamesEgan]

I have no problem with lebron getting weak rebounds or assists, as long as they actually happened. Getting a missed shot is a rebound, regardless of how terrible that player messed up in order for the rebound to happen. What grinds my gears is stuff like rebound #3 or assists that aren’t real assists.

[@chadrick9340]

Broooo, this is crazy, he may not have the triple doubles we thinking

[@ZachLester]

lol you killin it bro - dude gettin rebounds from the 3pt arc without even touchin the ball...... crazyness...

[@FullVenomJacket]

Yo AOH!! So I commented on one of your previous videos about how Lebron was ranked 445th in the L in defensive rating out of 494 players. I just learned that is dead last for players who average 30 minutes per game. He's also, as im sure you know, top 5 in turnovers in the L. Crickets from ESPN on these numbers though....

[@dirk61]

" I could do this with a beer in each hand" hahahahahaha !! 😂😂

[@andrehalim469]

Awesome dude. Instant subscribe. So much better than watching the rigged crap that is the NBA. Thanks for suffering through the games and giving us the important recaps that prove how crappy NBA has become.

[@AngryOldHoops]

Welcome aboard. I have about 1,000 vids to catch up on. :)

[@Mirror_of_the_Soul00]

I knew his rebounds were fake These videos are the reasons why the ratings are collapsing. It is proving everything we see while watching the games

[@Thanos-snap-feminism]

Even D. Lo boxes out but LeBron can't

[@tiredoffools8929]

DLO boxes out so Lebron can pad stats just like every other laker teammate. I feel bad for the rest of Lakers who sacrifice their stats to play with Lebron.

[@josephfittipaldi9762]

I have 22 years watching him doing the same . No playing defense, no running behind the player. T.O. the ball. But the rebounding now is special .

[@joebidens_touchyhands9477]

No not 22 years. I can't agree with that about LeBalco. Maybe in last 7 or 8 years, but earlier in his career he always played superb defense. In last decade of his career he's slacked off. And now it's just atrocious. He's an absolute joke now.

[@JUnit41484]

You're nuts, at 21 years old he pushed the still champion caliber pistons to 7 games, basically by himself, and then the next year he ripped our heart out and just ate it in front of us as he scored 25 consecutive points against one of the better defensive squads of all time... He's old, but get out of here with this 'he's never been that good' nonsense. That's absurd, he's top 5 without question.

[@kamotetops1572]

One thing that this GHOST stats is for his own sake... Does this became a trend when they legalize gambling for every stat they can think of?

[@stylewarz_nyc]

Speaking of court vision. It was a 3 vs 1 at 2:46, and the 1 is the old LeBron but Trae went for the 3, which he missed, instead of the easy 2.

[@theresak2024]

I must admit, it's amusing to see the Jordan detractors scrambling in the comments, desperately trying to resurrect that Klutch Sports sponsored Jordan DPOY smear campaign from earlier this year. That collaborative effort between Klutch & Tom Haberstroh to discredit Jordan's DPOY award was truly embarrassing and has already been debunked by several reputable KZbinrs...Jonny Arnett's rebuttal video was particularly interesting. He analysed 10 home games from MJ's DPOY season, whilst showing the actual game footage, 6 of these games were referenced in Haberstroh's article. Arnett made a CRUCIAL discovery during his breakdown of the footage, something Haberstroh conveniently missed...over the course of those 10 games, he counted 15 occasions where Jordan got his hand on the opponent's ball, causing a deflection, Jonny assessed these deflections as 15 blocks but noted that the Statistician did NOT credit these blocks to MJ's official block count. BOTTOM LINE: In those 10 games, MJ's blocks were UNDER credited, however, his steals appeared to have been over credited, by a very similar number... It's glaringly obvious to any objective eye what happened here. There was no 'gifting' of steals, that Stat-keeper clearly assessed those 15 blocks as STEALS! It's the only logical explanation for Jordan's block count being under credited! Ask yourself this question...if that Stat-keeper was intent on purposely inflating MJ's defensive stats, why would he UNDER credit his blocks? If his goal truly was to 'gift' defensive stats, he UNDOUBTEDLY would have credited every single one of those 15 blocks to Jordan's block count...but he didn't! Shockingly though, despite having made this crucial discovery, Jonny STILL concludes at the end of the video that MJ's steals had been inflated! Such a conclusion simply does not reconcile with the obvious surplus/deficit correlation that he had discovered between the blocks and steals! Logic dictates that Statistician credited those 15 blocks to MJ's steal count and that is evidenced by Jordan's block count being UNDER credited by an almost identical number! The question is, was the Stat-keeper correct in labeling those blocks as steals...should they have been credited as blocks, as Jonny suggested? To answer to that question, more research needs to be conducted into the rules of that Era to determine exactly how steals and blocks were consistently interpreted and officiated at that time. I recently watched an old 1992 Bulls regular season game and noticed that MJ got his hand on the opponent's ball on 2 separate occasions, deflecting the ball towards two of his teammates, with the commentator announcing "another steal for MJ" on both occasions, indicating that steals were credited to the player causing the deflection...that's NOT consistent with how Jonny (or Haberstroh) analysed Jordan's steals in their analysis. Something else neither accounted for is the fact that Stat-keepers in the 80's didn't have the luxury of accessing instant replay or multiple camera angles, it's also possible that an occasional block was misinterpreted as a steal. Finally, it's important to note that even if Jonny is correct, and his research into the rules of that Era determines that those 15 deflections should have been labeled as blocks and not steals, that would amount to stat misplacement, NOT stat inflation. There's a very important distinction there. In such case, MJ's official steal count for those 10 games would indeed need to be reduced by 15, however, his official block count would need to be INCREASED by 15! So no matter how you slice it, whether those 15 deflections are placed in the steals column or in the blocks column, it wouldn't change Jordan's overall defensive stats in those 10 games because you would essentially be subtracting 15 from one defensive count and adding 15 to another defensive count, which of course would have ZERO impact on the validity of MJ's DPOY award. The fact remains, when you combine the total number of blocks and steals that Jonny tracked into one single figure, that figure almost perfectly matches the official box score, ergo ZERO evidence of stat inflation. Countless viewers echoed my observations down in the comment section of Jonny's video months ago and he did reply to some of these comments, acknowledging the flaws in his original analysis of the steals, promising to release a follow-up video. Interestingly though, no such follow-up video has been released to date.

[@InfiniStyles]

I was curious about that 3rd rebound in the 1st that you were going over. So when I checked the play by play it says it happened at 7m and 29s. When the clip shows 10s earlier on NBA. So I checked League Pass to see for myself. I believe they may have used the wrong clip entirely on the site. As the rebound I THINK they are counting happens after the block on the other end of the floor just after the miss by Knecht. When I check the clip for blocks, it's the first one that comes up. If that's the case, I don't know why they couldn't use the same clip for both? Unless that's a limitation on NBA's site. Which is why they went with the play right before. Which is still pretty dumb to me. Even the time stamp for the play is off as it happens at 7m 34s in the 1st. For as much as I know he stat pads, it does appear he did get that 3rd rebound.

[@tiredoffools8929]

Thank you AOH. I see most these plays watching game LIVE but this makes it so obvious and undeniable. That phantom reb I would have never noticed LIVE though. That’s wild.

[@James_St._James]

That fake LeBron rebound reminds of when we were playing a summer league pickup game with us teenage kids and some dads and one of the dads went absolutely ballistic on me for not admitting the ball was out on me when I was on the opposite end of the court when the play originally happened. Only one kid stood up for me and told the dad I was on the other end of the floor and he still didn't care. He kept yelling at me for the rest of the game and was mad afterward too.

[@MrSean3kids]

I need to get all your video notifications 😂your great

[@intensityflightsimulation52]

My new favorite channel you just gain a new subscriber

[@RandallGay-qx1uc]

Lebron does not play a lick of defense.

[@drcdrdoct9864]

It's hilarious that his whole team is literally just there to pad his stats. Notice how they box out the other team not to fight for a rebound, but so Lebum can easily grab it without effort. So many of those are around 3 LA players with 2 just watching to make sure Lebum gets it. Could you imagine how much shit they would get if they took one of his rebounds away? Stat padding is first, winning second.

[@BigStickCombat]

With a beer in each hand!

[@SeecretWeapon]

An era of rebounds where guys don’t battle anymore

[@aymanibrahim9736]

The most overrated athlete in sports history. Pure garbage, a trick for 12 year olds to buy jerseys. a solid 15-5-4 off the bench in the 90s and a solid 17-5-4 starter in this shit era, if they called fouls, elbows, travels and carries. not even top 20, 30 or even 40, not even a top 10 player in his own era

[@anonymousperson8903]

Absolutely delusional post lmao. The things you guys think you can say in your 'safe space' here on AOH's channel. But no, I'm here to call it out. Your comment is BEYOND stupid.

[@Mamba-Kush]

@@anonymousperson8903 No, he's right. YOU're the blind fool here.

[@Felix2389]

Have you ever watched lebron in his first 7 years in Cleveland??? 2008-2009 Lebron alone would dominate every Era in NBA History! Stop saying these stupid things

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@anonymousperson8903 Keep groveling…

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@Felix2389 To dominate you have to be clutch in the last moment, and not shy from it.

[@axlcanada6511]

Now that rebound that never happened is BS

[@arguseyed9982]

It happened though. AOH just plays the wrong play for some reason.

[@vonchriscordova4789]

Every stats and accollades of Lebum has an asterisk on it

[@joebidens_touchyhands9477]

LeBalco China James is NBA's cashcow. They will protect him until he retires.

[@zinedinzidan4149]

Lol and they were quick to judge Jordan for awarding him steals but don't say anything about Lebron

[@MyVengenceEndsNow]

L.Bron Hubbard is Bronning again.

[@kcmet79]

As usual, top-notch commentary AOH…. although again, I’m a little torn. Queen James himself purports to always make the right play. Who are we to say otherwise?

[@DanielBarberMusic]

At 7:50, he also took a stroll with the ball before throwing it away, but no call..

[@CarterCurricula]

I was just about to write this same comment. It’s an obvious walk.

[@christopherrohlf1975]

I don't know why I love this channel so much, but I REALLY do

[@Glockx8732]

Your doing a great job angry old hoops I love ya work, somebody’s gotta tell the truth about this clown

[@lalotorres4614]

For those of us who play “21”, you know if you want a rebound to take possession of the ball, let someone else play defense then scurry in once the shot is put up. Thats what leflop reminds me of.

[@MexiKing74]

Keep up the great work

[@StCropper]

This channel is going to be a gem soon. A documentary can be made from this.

[@DangerousWillie]

There was a time when LeFlop was "athletic" & therefore considered a good player, even though his only bag was carrying the ball, traveling, & bulldozing or dislodging on almost every play. Now that he's older & no longer athletic it's not only painful to watch him play it's infuriating. LeClown is the epitome of the "Didn't Earn It" hire. His stats are fake & overinflated, his hair is fake, his muscles are fake, everything about him & his entire G.O.A.T case is fake & everyone is afraid to say anything for fear of being reprimanded by the league. He's the person that shows up late all the time, doesn't do any actual work, the work he tries to do he fucks up & everyone else has to cover for him & somehow he still gets the employee of the month award every other month. 🤡👑

[@TheSnHIMshow]

If you lost a bet because of that rebound it's crazy work, there are too many implications if the NBA taking incorrect stats

[@kikovazquez7277]

Great job AOH. There was a time that LeBron was a great 2 way player, but a few years ago his legs got stuck in cement like they do for all players pushing and reaching 40 still wearing the uniform. It looks like either Rob Pelinka or Bron's agent was the official statistician for this game. His overall stats this year if you discount turnovers are actually in the spectacular range for a 40 year old player, but they are deceptive. It's gratifying to see commentators like you demonstrating the truth of your takes by looking at the actual plays.

[@MikeBNumba6]

Disagree. He was never a great two way player. He's been playing like this his entire career. The only time he played better defense was in Miami, but even then he wasn't the best defender on the team. Birdman, Bosh, Wade and honestly I can throw Norris Cole in there as the better defenders His defense was always overrated. Espn proped him up as a great defender because of his chase down blocks. Which he had like two of them per month. He wasn't close to leading the league in blocks. He wasn't even top 20 for his position at any point of his career.

[@feynmanschwingere_mc2270]

Bron has NEVER been a great two way player. He's just been stat padding his entire career on cheap 'defensive' rebounds and a few chase down blocks per month. In reality, his entire game is fabricated. I'd argue he should have gotten only ONE All-NBA Defense team (the year he correctly lost to Marc Gasol for DPOY even though, that year, Wade was taking on all the tough assignments). LeBalco's on-ball Defense has always been garbage.

[@GenghisClaus]

Lebron has no shame, no class, and no dignity. Absolutely no dignity.

[@evilstorm5954]

Aussie viewer here, never coulda, woulda or shoulda played basketball, I’m a shortarse and was good at footy and Crickwt, but I was hooked by Jordan’s Bulls, and how good Jordan was way back in the nineties. I’ve seen not started following basketball again in the last year or so because of the GOAT debate. I’ll get to my point now- Jordan was the game. Even when he went to the Wizards it was to make them and the game better, not personal glory. Imagine LeBron doing that? Going to a sht team, maybe put some of his hard earned cash into BUYING himself his next job? Lololol🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 This clown is no where near Jordan’s level, or Birds, Johnson’s, Haleems, Rodmans, or another 100 players whose names I can’t remember but I know they played hard till their last game. I love how you take the piss out of him AOH, it’s very Australian 👍😎

[@plusminustenseconds7270]

My GOAT does not cross dress at any given scenario.

[@jammiebooker6489]

2:27 another poor decision by Atlanta....chucking a long 3 when they had the easy 2 on 1 play there 😂

[@thevoicestoldmetoagain4627]

The GOAT of fake stats

[@jinxed1984]

Kwame Brown shouted you out during Live!

[@MikeBNumba6]

I feel like more and more nba players are seeing this channel. I had a feeling Kwame watched this channel because he repeated the same stuff. You saying he shouted AOH out only confirms it

[@jinxed1984]

@MikeBNumba6 lakers are number 1 watched team here in the states and overseas. Nba viewers is so low, nba owners are confederate in conducting a circus

[@AngryOldHoops]

Did he say my name or just anonymously refer?

[@jinxed1984]

@@AngryOldHoops he said angryoldhoops!

[@jinxed1984]

@@AngryOldHoops kzbin.infoQSpRYzHVPiI?si=wNq9Wrah_WlsBkcd

[@stebbiej]

This need to b viral

[@dws7561]

Phantom rebounds 👻🏀 r wild

[@greenbanks2048]

Dude at 2:46 say and they steal it. Dude they never said who stole it or who rebounded it. What you’re saying is Trey young the opposite team didn’t get his stats for the steal and LBJ didn’t get the turnover. Than turn around and get the rebound when the opposing team blew it. Mann shut up hating 😢

[@markmeloni2388]

Do a Video about his traveling and how is getting away with all his offsenive Fouls

[@MikeBNumba6]

That would be to long of a video since it happens way to often

[@BobbySanders-bf2fr]

You are very critical of Lebron! Good job.

[@Cljohnson1034]

2:32 why did he shoot from there? Smh

[@AngryOldHoops]

Exactly what I thought. Then I remembered, "because it's a faster, better game with more talented players."

[@jfearless3420]

​​@@AngryOldHoopsthe last rebound shouldnt even count as a rebound since he grabbed the ball after the shot was blocked.

[@leq6992]

Trae Young is shooting an abysmal 31% from 3 but we're supposed to believe that he's a threat from anywhere. He's definitely a threat - a threat to miss from anywhere within 40 feet of the hoop 😂

[@treewisps4085]

that was a free dunk/ layup with Lebum guarding you lol

[@anonymousperson8903]

@@AngryOldHoops The players in todays NBA ARE more talented.

[@Anthonyistheone]

Great video. Well done and great advice. I wonder if those knockers are real. Just curious

[@tjaybautista]

no. 1 in turnover all time

[@ScallopHolden]

Well he’s in good company when you look at the top 5 in turnovers

[@peteMickeal33]

Also, triple doubles are bullshit stats. Whats special about a 10-10-10 thats is not about a 30-8-8, for instance? You wanto triple measure smthg? How about 20pts-5ofreb-5steals. That is way more representative of gretaness than a few points and meaningless rebounds and assits.

[@bat__bat]

Now contrast LeBron's fraudulent triple double with Jokic's actual triple doubles. The entire sport exists in that difference.

[@chiefe6943]

Just got off at 5am and you don't put a big smile on my face talking about Lebum😂😂😂😂