Anna Pavlova Athens 2004 All Around

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@1Timoteo41
@1Timoteo41 13 жыл бұрын
Anna Pavlova was the best all around gymnast at those Olympic Games, she deserved not only to win an Olympic all around medal, but the Olympic Gold Medal. She is in my opinion the best, and then Carly Patterson and Svetlana Knorkina third.
@saragrant9749
@saragrant9749 5 ай бұрын
Difference being Start value unfortunately. She had a couple of dance elements that were incomplete and in that code it was costly. She also had only a 9.8 SV in bars, and you had to have a 10 to be in true contention. Sad, but that’s how it worked out. I do believe she should have had bronze and Svetlana should not have medaled at all as her performance was much more lackluster overall.
@blinky7046
@blinky7046 16 жыл бұрын
I think that Anna being underscored by the judges and repeatedly stuck at 4th is what makes Anna Pavlova loved by so many. Maybe it's a gift in disguise...even though I would've wanted to see her win the Bronze here (yet I love Zhang Nan). And the Vault EF at Beijing was just heartbreaking.
@mattj5391
@mattj5391 Ай бұрын
Anna should have won the silver and Zhang the bronze. Sveta was gifted that silver. She would have been 4th for me.
@lb7617
@lb7617 8 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for Anna, she never got what she deserved... In 2004 she deserved the Bronze in the All Around and the Silver on Vault; and in 2008 she deserved the Bronze on Beam as well. It's just so sad :/
@saragrant9749
@saragrant9749 5 ай бұрын
She’d have earned those medals if not for two things- execution and start value. In Athens she lost bronze AA because of bars- 9.8 SV hurt plus a couple of dance element errors that cost in SV as well. That code was hugely strict on dance elements unfortunately. In Beijing she’d have won the bronze IF she’d completed that third element. Missing it hurt in both SV and execution, something she couldn’t afford. In terms of a vault silver? Start value was the key and Annia had a little more.
@lb7617
@lb7617 Ай бұрын
@@saragrant9749 Did you watch Zhang Nan's performance in the all around here? She was a basket case with extremely low difficulty on bars with a very large step on her dismount, she was wobbly on her beam routine, and she had low difficulty on vault (only did a Yurchenko 1.5). Every routine from Zhang in the all around was so obviously overscored, maybe except for her floor. Anna on the other hand was underscored, especially on beam and floor. Anna had the all around performance of her life here, every routine was beautifully executed and strongly performed. Anna deserved the bronze or even the silver medal, and Zhang deserved maybe like 6th or 7th place?
@moralsovermoney100
@moralsovermoney100 10 жыл бұрын
She was underscored on beam costing her the bronze in aa. Nice silver at the euro championships on vault this year.
@kittycatsrule86
@kittycatsrule86 15 жыл бұрын
she's really cool i wish she got a medal
@SpiritNurse1
@SpiritNurse1 15 жыл бұрын
love how she digs her feet into the floor to stick her landings. shes a better beam and vaulter than khorkina, and I honestly have her for at least the bromze
@bday121
@bday121 16 жыл бұрын
She's really, really good. These routines deserve a bronze medal at least.
@volleyballfan2
@volleyballfan2 8 жыл бұрын
This girl should've taken the bronze. No question.
@lb7617
@lb7617 8 жыл бұрын
I most certainly agree
@saragrant9749
@saragrant9749 5 ай бұрын
Start value hurt her unfortunately, especially on floor where a couple of dance elements were incomplete- in a code that was Uber strict on them. I do think she should have gotten bronze and Svetlana should have been fourth.
@jayld5396
@jayld5396 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite gymnasts. Her swing on bars is beautiful. I wonder why that was her weak event, because her form was the best there. She missed alot of handstands and connections, but her conditioning was exceptional. She didnt straddle on any of those casts to handstands.
@saragrant9749
@saragrant9749 5 ай бұрын
She admitted in an interview that bars always intimidated her, and so she did only just what was required to get by. Just like some never get comfortable on beam, some don’t get comfortable with bars.
@jayld5396
@jayld5396 5 ай бұрын
@@saragrant9749 she was able to learn that bar routine, she could have rearranged elements to get rid of deductions. She couldnt have been that intimidated considering how hard her routine was technically. I coached for 20years, i think i know more about gymnastics than someone replying to a response
@saragrant9749
@saragrant9749 5 ай бұрын
@@jayld5396 well aren’t you just special, good for you! I think I know a little after hearing an interview FROM THE ATHLETE- who knows more about her own psyche than you could ever dream. Why don’t you climb off your self righteous horse and have some respect for the observations of others- rather than acting and looking the part of a childish fool.
@EB3140
@EB3140 16 жыл бұрын
I love Anna and all of these routines were great. I hope she goes to Worlds!
@tatipheebs
@tatipheebs 15 жыл бұрын
A truly wonderful gymnast... so much grace and beauty, too bad those things were not rewarded at the time... even now I still think Anna doesn't get the scores she deserves... such a shame =(
@ClarkKent-bs5xh
@ClarkKent-bs5xh 4 жыл бұрын
She deserved the gold in her balance beam routine
@PAUPAU339
@PAUPAU339 5 жыл бұрын
Merecía el oro!
@chuuu4610
@chuuu4610 8 жыл бұрын
Kinda rude how they were talking about Carly's dismount when they had said nothing during Anna's floor routine. Well... not as bad as the NBC Nastia/Shawn hype of 2008.
@NaShea955
@NaShea955 7 жыл бұрын
Kagome Higurashi lol I thought the same thing. so annoying
@sqekcx
@sqekcx 16 жыл бұрын
yeah, of course her grace and perfect execution get her love from many people, but her bad luck just makes people love her more. 3>
@anelacadillo
@anelacadillo 16 жыл бұрын
She is an ARTISTIC gymnast!..she´s beautiful..hope she get was she deserve in Beijing..a GOLD! =D
@zozebra16
@zozebra16 15 жыл бұрын
Ok, tim needs to let go of the whole "little kid on a playground" thing. He says it all the time, and yes, the gymnasts make the huge skills look easy, but little kids on playgrounds don't do double layouts off bars.
@tatilalima2874
@tatilalima2874 3 жыл бұрын
I am impressed with such perfection in the movements. incredible
@zinikas
@zinikas 18 жыл бұрын
she deserved the bronze medal.. beatifull gymnast
@kamilaford5752
@kamilaford5752 8 жыл бұрын
Love how they had nothing to say when she stuck her first pass COLD. Lol it's like they weren't even watching, very disrespectful
@jorgebonilla2234
@jorgebonilla2234 3 ай бұрын
They typically don’t comment during floor unless something goes wrong - I think they’re instructed to. They didn’t talk during Carly or Svetlana’s either. Meanwhile they praised her on beam and even on bars, where her pirouetting was quite poor
@nathalieng4984
@nathalieng4984 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most underrated gymnasts. The judges in Athens and Beijing really did her wrong
@lb7617
@lb7617 8 жыл бұрын
Anna Pavlova should've won the Bronze instead of Zhang Nan in my opinion
@annapavfan4680
@annapavfan4680 6 жыл бұрын
Even silver I'd say. Zhang Nan was a blob in beam and extremely low in D score on bars. Just horrid that she took that medal .
@kp395
@kp395 6 жыл бұрын
Anna was cleaner and more consistent than Khorkina in the AA competitions and was definitely worthy of a silver medal.
@mattj5391
@mattj5391 Ай бұрын
@@annapavfan4680 I would have had Carly gold, Anna silver and Zhang third.
@jlenardwang977
@jlenardwang977 7 жыл бұрын
omg I love her !!!
@Zuranthium
@Zuranthium 2 жыл бұрын
Pavlova's tumbling on floor is wonderful but she messed up the smaller elements. Double cat leap, 1.5 split, and Triple turn all too underrotated to be given credit. Khorkina had the same problem though, she should have been off the podium altogether, and Pavlova taking the Silver instead.
@picks91
@picks91 16 жыл бұрын
the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@josemoreno-mu3hv
@josemoreno-mu3hv 8 жыл бұрын
Actuación histórica aunque hubo fraude para Rusia :)))))))
@barefacedquestions
@barefacedquestions 11 жыл бұрын
Even Tim and Elfie said that she had perfect vault landing. I think she was underscored on vault, but that's all. At best she could have outscored Zhang Nan or even Khorkhina, but she's not better than Carly Patterson. Carly had more impressive skills and difficulty, so she was rewarded more.
@estrelatarot3
@estrelatarot3 6 жыл бұрын
The best
@frogger37
@frogger37 17 жыл бұрын
wonderful gymnast!
@pappysprite
@pappysprite 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely no doubt about it. Pavlova was ROBBED of an all-around medal. Her 4 routines were more solid than anyones.
@mattj5391
@mattj5391 Ай бұрын
She was the better of the two Russians, thats for sure.
@gk891
@gk891 17 жыл бұрын
The D-level dismount was required only for event finals. Back then during the AA, you could do a C-level dismount without any deductions. And Zhang had a start value worth 10 anyways so she could get away with that dismount in that particular phase of the competition.
@thesovgc
@thesovgc Жыл бұрын
The way that beam is before bars in this video is so triggering to me 😭. I cannot believe Yevgeny could get Carly to a 9.9 SV on bars and no one in all of Russia could get Anna a routine higher than 9.7?? She is fundamentally a much better bars worker than Patterson. Craziness!
@genesisfernandezsarabia3923
@genesisfernandezsarabia3923 5 жыл бұрын
1- Svetlana Khorkina 2- Carly Patterson 3- Anna Pavlova 4- Daniela Sofronie 5- Nan Zhang En mi opinión debió de haber sido así los resultados del All Around Atenas 2004
@mattj5391
@mattj5391 Ай бұрын
1- Carly Patterson 2- Anna Pavlova 3- Nan Zhang 4- Daniela Sofronie 5- Svetlana Khorkina
@Stone.Ng88
@Stone.Ng88 16 жыл бұрын
Jiang Yuyuan as well. He said it at least three times during the olympics.
@violaroadkill
@violaroadkill 16 жыл бұрын
1. Sveta 2. Anna 3. Carly
@mattj5391
@mattj5391 Ай бұрын
1. Carly 2. Anna 3. Zhang
@AlexCorralMexico
@AlexCorralMexico 15 жыл бұрын
I AGREE
@gk891
@gk891 17 жыл бұрын
As much as I like Pavlova, her bars were not pretty even with Zhang's. Although Pavlova swings very freely, she did not have very much content in her routine which is why her start value was only 9.700. It's a shame for her because that made a big difference in her overall score in the AA.
@gk891
@gk891 17 жыл бұрын
From what I remember, you had to do a D-level dismount during event finals. During the AA, you could do a C-level dismount without penalties.
@japanht
@japanht 17 жыл бұрын
You are so right. Zhang Nan had a major break, and still got 9.662. Pavlova is almost perfect, but 9.5... Although I am Chinese, I feel bronze belong to Anna.
@mattj5391
@mattj5391 Ай бұрын
The silver belonged to Anna. The wrong Russian won silver.
@swimt2006
@swimt2006 17 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the music?
@m3l0owxcore
@m3l0owxcore 15 жыл бұрын
What is the name of her music?
@chrislindsey14
@chrislindsey14 15 жыл бұрын
I was just about to comment about that but decided to check to see if anyone said anything about it, and it looks like everyone agrees! Ha your comment is funny.
@eMthegymnast
@eMthegymnast 17 жыл бұрын
didnt she quit? i hope not. what was her AA finsih? 4 or 5th?
@481095ymg2
@481095ymg2 11 жыл бұрын
agreed, they also don't point their toes and extend their lines :p
@tekkenfan01
@tekkenfan01 11 жыл бұрын
yup
@floorstud56
@floorstud56 17 жыл бұрын
where are you pulling 9.362 from?? even if they didn't inculde that deduction in her scoring, which they did, it wouldn't have been only .013 lower it would have been a tenth lower because it is a tenth for going out of bounds....surely a gymnastics expert like you would know that.
@swimt2006
@swimt2006 18 жыл бұрын
What did she end up getting in her vault? Too bad she didn't get a medal here, it was very possible for her to stand with Svetlana Khorkina!
@mfinger
@mfinger 18 жыл бұрын
For me Anna won the bronce medal, she was better that the chinese!
@hanakyne
@hanakyne 16 жыл бұрын
voia la vraie championne olympique a Athenes cette gymnaste es parfaite esthetique technique artistique elle a tout quel honte de la placer 4 eme !!!
@joaocampelo3725
@joaocampelo3725 Жыл бұрын
She should’ve been silver!
@mattj5391
@mattj5391 Ай бұрын
The wrong Russian won silver, that's for sure.
@matatyahuyoussef
@matatyahuyoussef 15 жыл бұрын
what kind of elementary school did you go to
@Zamolodchikovafan16
@Zamolodchikovafan16 17 жыл бұрын
In the English commentary they said that Zhang did need to do a D level dismount.
@mattj5391
@mattj5391 Ай бұрын
Not for the AA. Only EF
@loaugust
@loaugust 18 жыл бұрын
I like her routines.I can't understand why the judges awarded her lower marks.Too bad that she has gone downhill a little now. Is it because of injury?
@Shahnanagans
@Shahnanagans 2 ай бұрын
I miss Elfi Schlegel's commentary.
@christinepoppins
@christinepoppins 17 жыл бұрын
wintersun by bond
@casualgymnast
@casualgymnast 12 жыл бұрын
She should of bronze!
@mattj5391
@mattj5391 Ай бұрын
silver!
@ascheoschow7177
@ascheoschow7177 6 жыл бұрын
Real champion with Korhkina
@NYCBlonde
@NYCBlonde 12 жыл бұрын
It's just a way of making the sport accessible to the average viewer. Don't take it personally. A gymnast who loves the sport and enjoys flying *is* connecting with the kid they used to be, jumping on the bed and playing on the monkey bars. Don't take it personally.
@kakaroxox
@kakaroxox 16 жыл бұрын
she did better here than in beijing
@reiskariimi
@reiskariimi Күн бұрын
She looks like mix of Tamara Lazakovich and Elena Mukhina
@gabryelsl
@gabryelsl 16 жыл бұрын
anna you are nice.i love you. kisses
@doumora
@doumora 16 жыл бұрын
she finished 4th
@nathaliexlr8
@nathaliexlr8 9 жыл бұрын
Crossed feet and legs weren't together enough on the vault.
@lb7617
@lb7617 8 жыл бұрын
It was better than Zhang's 1.5 Twist, Anna should've gotten the Bronze
@annapavfan4680
@annapavfan4680 6 жыл бұрын
Not only that. Zhang had a double pike dismount on bars and Anna had a DLO. Robbery.
@pamelamj123
@pamelamj123 11 жыл бұрын
oooh look never seen before, a carly who? stan. never knew those existed
@jandj094
@jandj094 14 жыл бұрын
Anna pavlova is amazing! but people have to stop dissing Carly Patterson. Professional judges makred her performances, and their proffesional knowledge says that Carly was better than the rest, and only the judges know how to mark properly and mark down the tiny errors which may not be visable to us.
@syrilwayne
@syrilwayne 2 жыл бұрын
Her UB routine kinda reminds me of the chinese's routines with her pirouttes + jaeger combo. Lol
@christinepoppins
@christinepoppins 18 жыл бұрын
she totally got ripped off this night! the bronze should've been hers! zhang got totally overscored on her beam routine!
@genesisfernandezsarabia3923
@genesisfernandezsarabia3923 5 жыл бұрын
La gimnasta rusa más boicoteada 💔
@briaberger
@briaberger 16 жыл бұрын
4th!
@misoginainternalizadaopres7131
@misoginainternalizadaopres7131 5 жыл бұрын
WHAT??!!! NOT EVEN A MEDAL??
@KomovasSplits
@KomovasSplits 8 жыл бұрын
Khorkina should have won with Carly in silver and Pavlova in bronze
@tekkenfan01
@tekkenfan01 12 жыл бұрын
artistry is only half the game, Carly won fair and square
@czucksk84life
@czucksk84life 17 жыл бұрын
what the frick is wrong with the commentators?
@ArtisticGymnastics2017
@ArtisticGymnastics2017 3 жыл бұрын
ROBBED
@tekkenfan01
@tekkenfan01 12 жыл бұрын
dont think so
@tekkenfan01
@tekkenfan01 12 жыл бұрын
hater
@tekkenfan01
@tekkenfan01 12 жыл бұрын
not in your lifetime
@floorstud56
@floorstud56 17 жыл бұрын
where are you pulling 9.362 from?? even if they didn't inculde that deduction in her scoring, which they did, it wouldn't have been only .013 lower it would have been a tenth lower because it is a tenth for going out of bounds....surely a gymnastics expert like you would know that.
@floorstud56
@floorstud56 17 жыл бұрын
where are you pulling 9.362 from?? even if they didn't inculde that deduction in her scoring, which they did, it wouldn't have been only .013 lower it would have been a tenth lower because it is a tenth for going out of bounds....surely a gymnastics expert like you would know that.
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