Anne Applebaum on autocracies, pacifism, and Ukraine

[@11174071]

дякую за вашу роботу ❤

[@HectorCandelasOrtega]

Thank you. Another very interesting guest. I enjoyed and learned a lot from listening to Ms. Applebaum

[@EEX97623]

Anne knows these conversation territories inside-out, so much experience and knowledge to share.

[@eriksyring]

Good conversation 👍

[@kramarenko7270]

Thank you Ms. Ann for an honest look at events in Ukraine and the world 🙏♥️🇺🇦

[@DarkestAlice]

Thank you, Volodymyr Yermolenko, and Anne Applebaum, for this very interesting conversation. 🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦

[@olgatoryanyk1588]

Дякую

[@icyplayz5889]

Need to get rid of corruption

[@ChristinaMuzzu]

Thank you. It seems to me that the people who have never lost their country to a dictator really lack an understanding of the difference between peace and defeat. I am surprised and delighted the Germans awarded Anne. They have had passivity drilled into them so hard it's really hard for them NOT to see being a carpet as anything but a virtue. Newsflash to all the people who like to blame everything on the U.S.: yes, we are full of flaws and need to improve. But that does not mean other countries cannot be awful and evil, and Russia needs to be stopped or it will not at Ukraine.

[@babs420th9]

This woman wants war so bad. 🤯

[@azalia423]

Always redirecting attention to Russia and away from Gaza.

[@s.d.h.3t981]

At 8:15 you talking about the US government and E.U? 😂

[@irongron]

Because in RuZZia, where has all the free media gone ? Where have TV Rain and all the others had to run away to, to be free news ? Who was it that banned "Куклы" - puppets - a political satire that is allowed in all of the US and EU, but not Russia ? "During parliamentary elections in 1999 and presidential elections in 2000, NTV was critical of the Second Chechen War, Vladimir Putin and the political party Unity backed by him. NTV was forced to close the show down in 2002 after pressure from the Kremlin". And don't cry to me about Simonyan's RT. Vile peddlers of Kremlin lies and hate.

[@s.d.h.3t981]

What about the nord stream pipeline sabotage ?

[@irongron]

That was sabotaged by GAZPROM to evade billions of dollars in undelivered contracts via "Force majeure".

[@tech477]

What about it?

[@dannydetonator]

I know who you are and why your lot are here. Drop the bs, we know what you're doing so i'm not going to pretend this is a genuine question, though i could answer it as such, exposing your terrorist state for what it is. But for the sake of an argument, your whataboutism is the best example of the hybrid warfare you're waging, accusing enemy of your own actions as a standard. This vague question is just the methodics thought to you, hiding irrelevant accusations which are in most times confessions. And the irony couldn't be greater. See, by now all the plausible evidence, motives and means point that the massive NS sabotage act was done by Russia, likely navy. Let's start with motives and logic. At the time of the explosions Europe was not using Nordstream and had just established the infrastructure for shipping LNG from alternate sources. Russia would know that Nordstream was probably never going to be restarted and never going to generate any further revenue. This leaves Russia with 2 problems and 1 useless pipeline. Problem 1. By contract Russia owed Germany for loss of supply. While the pipeline was functioning Russia (Gazprom) was already in debt to Germany. When they stopped the gas (claiming maintenance at the beginning), fines were adding on top of that. The solution is to blow up the pipe and claim the contract void. Problem 2. Europe was no longer reliant on Russia for natural gas so Russia could not intimidate them with starting and stopping Nordstream. The solution is to blow up the pipes, claim the contract void and threaten the rest of European undersea energy and communication infrastructure. Remember the Shetland's undersea cables were cut on 20th October '23 when the Russian sub-sea naval ship Akademik Boris Petrov was nearby. The latter is far from the only "accident" of this nature since 2022 in particular. Then there are means that only Russia have and there is strong evidence it used them. Option 1 (most likely). The pipes were blown on 26/9/22, two of three places simultaneously. The Baltic sea is monitored and there were only one suspect tracked in exactly the spot on the week it happened capable of doing a complicated, large operation like that. From 19-21/9/22 Russia's Baltic fleet held "submarine/diversion diver training operations" exactly over the stretch where both NS pipelines were blown. That includes the most advanced diving equipment and deep sea divers Russia has, unmanned and manned undersaea craft on multiple warships, well documented from sattelite images and rest of the intelligence. Blowing a 45mm reinforced pipe from outside requires at least 1T of TNT equivalent, specialist deep-sea divers and massive amount of equipment. That completely discounts the other two alleged culprits in the area at the time (the small yacht "Andromeda" who couldn't fit equipment, never mind the explosives on and the greek tanker "Minerva", which is documented with standard cargo, route, and never stopped in the area). Option 2. Only Russian pump stations have maintenance insertion mechanism to the insides of the pipes for inspection robots and cleaning plugs. Explosives can be passed that way inside the pipes, it would require less explosives and completely conceal the operation. The footage of aftermath also suggests that explosions might have happened from inside, with thick steel walls flowering outwards, no signs of indentation from sides or pipeline being thrown to the side. I don't know the trigger mechanism for the explosives, but it could have been inserted inside pipes and triggered from outside to spare many 100s km of cable necessary to do that (and water absorbs radiowaves to do it remotely). The footage showing the aftermath of the blasts was done by Blueeye Robotics private initiative, you can find it on their chanell. Владимир Милов have a good analysis of the motives too, from 5/4/23, if you genuinely believe anyone else but Russia did it. Besides there is a rumor in Russia about a rumor in Gazprom that their executives and staff know who did it and they certainly know why, even if that's just rumors for us. All this is just to remind the confused people who exactly started and continuously escalates the hybrid-war without consequences. It's in FSB, GRU and other adjacent agencies' doctrine and playbooks since USSR times, just modernised and augmented lately. If US did things like these, it would risk them losing allies in Europe and the very international laws it still wants to defend, far outweighing any potential (but not guaranteed) long-term financial benefits from selling their low-calory LNG, contractual reputation and the remaining credibility in general. A criminal act and complete insanity they cannot afford, on par with the other insane conspiracy theories. That's why the accusations coming up lately (years after it happened, with absolutely 0 evidence) is so rewarding to Kremlin's propaganda machine and narratives, who ravel and thrive on conspiracy loonies.

[@s.d.h.3t981]

Warmongers

[@irongron]

yes, Russia are the warmongers, THEY started the war.

[@tech477]

A "not to bright person" who decides to comment even without listening what the speakers have to say.

[@irongron]

@@tech477 Indeed, it is obvious to anyone with a brain that Ruzzia are the warmongers. One look at the wikipedia page "List of wars involving Russia" puts pay to that. Hundreds and hundreds of wars listed, it takes you 15 mins to scroll through them all.

[@dannydetonator]

@tech477 That "not too bright person" is nearly certainly an obvious kremlinbot. They have a special operation going for anything that mentions Applebaum, Snyder, Hodges and many other top analytic minds on our side.

[@dannydetonator]

@tech477 It's a bot. All my replies got deleted. YT will pay for it too.