Autocracy, Inc: Anne Applebaum and Ruth Ben-Ghiat in Conversation

[@goarmysleepinthemud.]

Excellent! I was wondering when I would get to the opportunity to listen to both of these incredible women together. Thanks for this.

[@frederickrapp5396]

I could sit at the feet of Ann and Ruth all day. When they speak; I listen. Thanks for posting this discourse between 2 highly intelligent women.

[@arlenesmadja2635]

😮😮😮

[@IngSoc274]

@Fred because your mother raised a simp.

[@MishaShvartsman]

It is because you are not very smart and because you don't know anything

[@azalia423]

Horrible

[@maureensansburn6413]

Dream team for sure

[@minaguta4147]

Anne is a treasure. Wonderful interview.

[@barrysnyder930]

She’s just another neocon out of Poland the countries she talks about suffer because of our sanctions around the world regime change is what they don’t talk about Libia trying Syria. Central America is not unlike Eastern Europe to the Soviet union with the United States.

[@JVendittelli]

Blackrock has stolen all the money in the Usa. The USA and the UK are no longer European nations, they've become 3rd world nations that eat cats. This woman thinks she can lie to everyone

[@juligrlee556]

Two the most intelligent leaders in the United States. I keep buying their books and reading them. Their thinking is awesome and beautiful and helpful and interesting.

[@barrysnyder930]

They’re no different than the neocons putting the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. It’s what they don’t talk about in detail and have some sus substance from an opposing point of view.

[@garretttedeman]

Truly brilliant & timely discussion!

[@victoriawolf5600]

Anne Applebaum and Ruth Ben-Ghiat are brilliant! I hope Kamala Harris consults with them and Timothy Snyder about Ukraine & Russia.

[@NG-dc2pk]

Just curious, What are your thoughts about John Mearsheimer?

[@AllMagasGoToGitmo]

@@NG-dc2pkhe’s a fraud and a hack, simps for putin like all the bots and paid trolls online, except he’s in the academy - he’s the Jordan Peterson of international relations, just spreading nonsense

[@HagenKocksch]

it is pure warmongering? what are you on about? complete blindness to the shortfalls of the western systems! this endless blabla of freedom and democracy. does that still work for you? jeez!

[@azalia423]

She doesn't mention that izrale is arming the world's autocrats, from Viktor Orbán to Mohammed bin Salman. See Antony Loewenstein

[@ReadMoreHistory-v9u]

Love these two women. I always listen to their lectures and read their scholarship. We’d all be wiser to listen to them.

[@MichellePoirier-m3x]

Absolutely fantastic show I've seen Anne on another show talking about her new book,; I will be buying it. It was wonderful to hear you both; both of you have expertise in subject matter that is quite relevant in America right now; please continue to speak out. Thank you both very much 💙💙👍👍💙💙📚📚

[@T-zw3uk]

Excellent, thank you.

[@teacher01ful]

So good and full of info, I had to watch it twice. I could listen to the two of them forever.

[@johnnorris3409]

Thank you. Love these two women. I've read their books and highly recommend them.

[@pricklypearcamera]

Superb conversation- thank you both!

[@jeannewolfe4489]

Just bought Anne’s book and can’t wait to listen to it. So bizarre to be living right in the middle of this.

[@niteskylight6699]

thank you for sharing this, very powerful, two wonderfully smart women, love the 92NY, brilliant conversation & dialogue

[@frederickrapp5396]

I could sit at the feet of Ann and Ruth all day. When they speak; I listen. Thanks for posting this discourse between 2 highly intelligent women. I’ve never seen them appear together on stage before.

[@Soubhik12345.]

Love listening to Applebaum.

[@Struwwel2]

Even without reading Applebaum's book, those of us who believe in the value of liberal democracy can keep it in mind, front and center, the world's autocrats are collaborating and assisting each other.

[@michaelhermiston]

i was hoping there would be a meeting of these two great minds, articulate voices, and fabulous information which encourages us to work for democracy 💙🕊✔✍🏽🇺🇸💙

[@lynnwalton814]

Fantastic interview. Now if only MSM payed attention to what's going on

[@KateColors]

Thank you both!

[@williamevans9709]

Thanks!

[@Pat.Andrea]

Great video thank you. Deeply appreciated 🙏

[@rachelerynkalish2207]

Love these two wise and courageous women. Their scholarship is impeccable. Thank you both for the warning signs! As my mom-who lost many family in Auschwitz-used to say “never think it can’t happen here if good people do nothing.” Seemed very far fetched but she would not be shocked by trump.

[@18_rabbit]

exactly! And relatedly, notice that the greatest gen and that right behind it were mostly gone (greatest gen) and rapidly dying off (those right behind) as Trumpism started and the new right in the EU got cooking, ie from around '15 on. We must mobilize organize and resist these trends which are always cyclical in 50-80 years cycles

[@teacher01ful]

Wow! So much in-depth information from these two leading authorities.

[@thesilkpainter]

I wish I could give you more than one thumbs up.

[@D_isco_D_ancer]

Anne is so familiar and aware with the situation in Venezuela. It's amazing and I value it a lot as a Venezuela expat.

[@kitfattorini8779]

Most interesting! Thank you!

[@D_isco_D_ancer]

Anne is a fantastic writer and intellectual.

[@vivelemoi]

Always listen to your mother, and to all the women around you.

[@geoffreynhill2833]

👍🤔

[@geoffreynhill2833]

Democracy is too complicated for Dictators. 🤨

[@geoffreynhill2833]

Anne Applebaum is extraordinarily observant. 👍🤔

[@18_rabbit]

yep , many definitions of fascism are that its foundation is the denial of complexity.

[@sergiodzg]

So good! ❤

[@nickigonzales5544]

Brilliant and engaging

[@skehleben7699]

I read through the comments after watching the talk and was terribly dismayed by how many pro autocracy comments were made. I wonder have they ever lived in a autocracy? I suspect not.😢

[@tanyawilliams8254]

💙 Vote Blue America 🇺🇸

[@tigertiger1699]

A real privilege.. thank you from 🇳🇿

[@davedbarc]

Yes, a "big picture" book. I like picture books.

[@jamesbishop9156]

Love is the Law...

[@lizgichora6472]

Great discussion on Autocracy, Dictatorship and how they operate. Picking one and beat down as an example whilst the Top down model is enacted and numerous lies to drive motif.

[@suninmoon4601]

The speakers sort of breezed by the topic of regulations. Effective regulations are the absolute foundation of a functional democracy. Without regulations there is no justice, no equality, and no liberty. Without regulations, might is right, and the only thing that matters is the accumulation and the preservation of power. Regulations provide protection for normal citizens against exploitation by people like Elon Musk, so is it any wonder that he advocates for deregulation?

[@HepCatJack]

When Ruth said that Russia isn't exactly paying people to influence people in the West, that's exactly what happened with the organization that was paying Tim Pool 100K per KZbin video and other influencers.

[@alfredorezende-po8pg]

NO fear!!!!

[@tomaszwesoowskifromlechist6222]

She know this same what any hard worker in Poland or Slovakia.

[@GSD-]

This interview is so disturbing, unhinged, and off base that I don’t even know where to start. From celebrating “Zimbabwe’s democracy” (look up the tens of thousands of Africans slaughtered by Mugabe in the 1980s) to calling Trump an autocrat (autocrats don’t step down from power and they CERTAINLY do not give up power if they think the election was rigged against them) to thinking that “there is no good reason for hidden trusts” (if the rich are not in need of financial protection/secrecy, why do government target the rich with the highest tax rates?), this interview is one lie after another. To the open minded, I recommend watching the recent Tucker Carlson interview which cites Anne (a video which originally brought me here). In that Tucker interview, you will find a far more robust and academically stimulating interview with literally 20x more views than this “interview” Final note: academia is dead. So sad.

[@seansmith3058]

😂

[@GSD-]

@@seansmith3058 wow - such academic courage. Do you know how to read?

[@seansmith3058]

@@GSD- I wish I didn't in your case. 🤣

[@azalia423]

Netanyahu

[@davidcole1928]

What an absolute fail of an argument. I think I’ll pass on your advice on listening to anything Tucker Carlson has to say, (Even if it has 100x more views) But thanks for the hilarious read. Must be a troll

[@JacquelynRobinson-b1x]

Name of the book???

[@tahwsisiht123]

3:28 4:16 8:07 13:35 Justice, accountability and transparency 24:54 Dictatorships are secure and safe and reliable. Democracies are divided and weak and degenerate 51:03

[@azalia423]

She doesn't mention that izrale is arming the world's autocrats, from Viktor Orbán to Mohammed bin Salman. See Antony Loewenstein

[@internetidentity3917]

Transactional, vengeful *and* mercurial? Sounds like someone I know.

[@TheQuasar14]

Confessions of An Economic Hitman speaks to this

[@amarbyrd2520]

Narrator: It was NOT a free election. And now look what has happened.

[@achenarmyst2156]

Concerning authoritarian propaganda in social media, my experience is mainly from KZbin which is basically great in sharing access to all sorts of information. But in certain channels you are just swept away by quite obvious fake news appearing in hundredfold variations, often in very bad English and getting upvoted without end. I just experienced this in a post from Times of India about the role of NATO and German military engagement in Lithuania. From the comments you got the impression that this is just the rebirth of German Nazism preparing the next attack on the poor and ever enduring victim Russia.

[@dawnoceanside7300]

Those other countries don't sit on the comfy couch for almost a decade. 🤭 Embarrassing!!!! Thank God for Kamala and Tim ❤️🇺🇲😎👍

[@danabennett4098]

Speaking of Latin America - How is ARGENTINA doing now? They had a bad situation (like Chile) for a long time. AND NOW? I have friends (Argentine) who live there and I've visited twice, so I love it there. So I worry.

[@hapennysparrow]

If someone wants to know the why and how of Trump, read Jeff Sharlet's two books, " The Family," and " The Undertow." Other excellent books are Kristin DuMez's, " Jesus and John Wayne." Or Katherine Stewart's " The Power Worshippers," and Tim Alberta's , " The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory." Sarah Posner has a great read titled " Unholy." There are others please inform yourself. There are deeper forces at work that have worked tirelessly to dismantle Democracy for over 50 years.

[@luisfernandezdecordoba5938]

I kind of disagree with them. These governments are bad for sure, but if the US or Europe were in the same place they would do the same. The USA does not do great for their people. Cost of living is very high. Inequality, more people in jail than anywhere else...

[@robertmeredith5905]

How much is religiously motivated? As this is what I see and hear. Also, the language presented, vocal patterns, the repetition of message is designed to create doubt in countries. It instills fear.

[@susydyson1750]

Nonsense !! Venezuelans now showed their strength !

[@danabennett4098]

Is Trump trying to "make examples" of certain people - or just groups??

[@prajnachan333]

"Do want a neat and tidy, clean and inplace home, with a well-groomed yard surrounding the house. Or a house that is a mess, garbage everywhere. Nothing in place. With a yard that is a jungle, reflecting the chaos inside? Democracy mess Autocracy sharp Your "choice".

[@eaglewing1415]

It was great until they showed their true colors with the insults on JD Vance.

[@SeegerInstitute]

Everything you folks are talking about regarding the shortcomings of the Kleptocrats based out of the former iron curtain and former Marxist states holds true, but what’s your neglecting to say is it’s the failure of the American financial system, the inevitable concentration of wealth due to our current capital structure, which is causing our vulnerabilities in what is The west or the western sphere of influence if we were not so inherently flawed if there wasn’t such a large percentage of our population who is being left out of the discussion and if our own internal political system, we’re not as overly corrupt as it is, there would not be a question. But when you compare and contrast and clips with a corrupt inept obsolete crypto, which is what we’re working within there is room for discussion. If you’re left out of the financial situation and your living under a paradigm of scarcity and anxiety, you have no choice but to question other systems, especially if you’re, not educated and you’re essentially left out of the American dream. We should really get our own house in order that would be the best way of combating authoritarian narrates.

[@prajnachan333]

If everything was great in the country - we wouldn't need a savior, i.e., Donald Trump "To make it great Again"! 👍 That's his whole game from the beginning. And only He can do it. (!)

[@skehleben7699]

Your nuts.

[@dannylemon4159]

He? With a capital 'H'? As in the Second Coming 'He'? Are you insane?

[@HasanRifino]

🖐🕴

[@louisfifteen]

She never mentions israels genocide in Gaza I'm not a christian, but this bible quote fits her and her new book: How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' while there is still a beam in your own eye? You hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

[@cab5917]

It would be nice to use words that are not repeated like “transactional.” That does not explain the facts you are trying to relay to the general public. Not everyone has use of the English language with words like “transactional.”

[@Dawid924]

Dość tej żydowskiej agentury ❗❗❗❗ dość tej zydowskiej narracji ❗❗❗❗

[@alfredorezende-po8pg]

Hopes for someone to say something usiful

[@RobinSingh-g1j]

Ms. Applebaum is not acknowledging Project 2025 and seemed to sidestep Ms. Ghiat's point that the GOP is an authoritarian party. She seemed to avoid or ignore or preferred not to pursue that point. Her international assessment is spot on but not necessarily the US political parties.

[@azalia423]

She's a deflection project.

[@marshalmaddening9011]

RT was watchable , for me, mostly b/c of Chris Hedges. Is he someone we suspect of being a russian asset ?

[@IExpectedBSJustNotThisMuchBS]

Most disappointed in Applebaum's head girl or head teacher in a stuffy boarding school approach. Have enjoyed her in the past and now need to assess why... who was she with when I did? What was her expertise in relation to them? And so on. Most off putting. (I have a longer post about this.)

[@regal9242]

KHAZAR MAFIA

[@Therecouldbehope]

This is only for chics

[@Rnankn]

These two have lost the plot. Democracy is a process of collective decision-making. What they’re defending is liberal capitalism, against authoritarian capitalism. The inherent insecurity engendered by markets is what pushes them from their soft (liberal) variant, to hard (authoritarian) variant. The nationalist tendency toward external militarization and internal social cleansing occurs with the concentration of wealth and depletion of resources. Domination creates a perception of control, and this relieves anxiety. Authoritarianism can be democratically chosen, and democratic institutions can be authoritarian. The variable is economic, and capitalist societies are not self-legitimizing in the long-term. They self-sabotage through their own reliance on contingency and failure.

[@PaoloMarinelli-sl2xu]

Authoritarism can be democratic is a "non sense" in my opinion. The democracy can be authoritarian is true (know the recent hystory) The problem is capitalism? I don't know, I think that is semplicistic explain.

[@AllMagasGoToGitmo]

Hitler only got 38% of the vote in 1933, it was the friekorps/brownshirts that consolidated power through physical intimidation and violence on the streets - much like MAGA today talking about how they have all the guns - so Maoism, basically - nothing democratic about being organized violent psychopaths, but it’s effective. Also that was really great how you started your dismissive comment with an ad hominem, I hope you’re still making your quota for the day.

[@cestchill111]

I fact, capitalism and democracy have different end goals, and inevitably cannot coexist, if left without regulation. They are juxtaposing terminology.

[@Rnankn]

@@cestchill111 Absolutely.

[@gyanprakashraj4062]

GHULAAM HO TUMLOG....

[@anon-soso-anon]

I'm unimpressed with Ruth; she's so clearly against the Republican party that she doesn't come across as objective. I'm glad Anne continually pushes back.

[@biancapierce639]

I had the polar opposite perspective - the good Republicans have been expelled from the party, or are too afraid to speak up for fear of retribution. The Repubulican party has become the party of Trump, it is no longer nuanced.

[@davidwilkie9551]

Aren't we all "Transactional" . Every concept we observe is measured up to fit into some aspect of our self awareness. When Scientists can't reach past their concrete mentality to evaluate parallel coexistence formality, they are setting themselves in the context of a Dictator who sells their business model of reverse-inverted conscience to the support team that wants that service. Eg why are lawyers identified as "Prostitutes of the Law"? When it's pointed out to the victim of dictatorial, misused administrative services and trust in the validity of the selected, legalised legitimacy.. Technically, there is no such thing as "democracy", only temporary alliance to a preferred concept of self importance.

[@萱-b6u]

I think we all exchange stuff but autocratic countries have less trust between each other.

[@MarciaMatthews]

Please discuss the plight of women under gender ideology. Paris Olympic boxing, Australia refusing to define sex in law, USA headed down the same road.

[@jeremyserwer2586]

Next thing you know dogs and cats will be living together!! Tell me what nightmare scenario you see unfolding?

[@MarciaMatthews]

@@jeremyserwer2586 Where ya been? Willfully ignorant of the harms of gender ideology. Children medicalized, women’s spaces and sports given away.

[@hershchat]

SHOCKING ignorance of the “global south”, which this unwell person needlessly derides. Please don’t waste your time with her book or words.

[@johnstallings4049]

Best book 📖 I've read in years! #HarrisWalz2024

[@azalia423]

She's a puppet.

[@johnstallings4049]

@@azalia423 1 sub & no content politically illiterate troll account lol 😶

[@fern8580]

For my friends, whatever they want. For my enemies, the law» to my friends, everything; to my enemies, the law All understanding to my friends and the full weight of the law to my enemies Ramzan Kadyrov ( Chechen Republic), Xi Jinping( Republic of China), Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (russian empire Orthodox), Kim Jong Un (north korea ) .

[@zbigniewbaranowski9333]

Serdecznie pozdrawiam... 1:19

[@caskade1]

Bunch of war hawks.

[@DeltaFoxtrot5190]

Thanks!