Mielle Organics Causing Hair Issues

[@shontels8105]

before I switched over to pumpkin seed oil and ever heard of mielle I used to make my own rosemary blend. Rosemary oil is very strong I had to mix like 2 drops with a 6 oz carrier oil like olive oil. I still have half the bottle left all these years later. If I mixed too much it would burn and thin the hair. Essential oils are not to be played with. they have to be heavily diluted.

[@curlynella1011]

Have you seen anyone grow their hair back from thinning from essential oils or is it permanently damaged?

[@themagicalcupcakeunicorn5755]

@@curlynella1011My guess is that you can, but I think you need to have lots of patience and a very good repair routine

[@quenquen200726]

That's what I was thinking about the oil...that some batches had too much rosemary oil for the amount of carrier oils used. Reminds me of those miracle drops...it was/is burning folks scalp and causing hair loss.

[@chocolateme7731]

But at least with Cantu they actually listened to the customers and they recently reformulated the products. When I went to Sally's a lady that worked there say ever since Cantu reformulated thier products. The people have not been having any more issues with the new reformulated cantu products.

[@Listening4n0w]

After the incident with Linda Lynn, I was completely turned off. They're unprofessional trash so I couldn't careless what happens to their products. When big corporations get involved, quality usually goes out the window. It's all about profit.

[@nancymonroe7326]

Same! I thought it was horrible how they treated Linda Lynn when all she did was give an honest product review. I only liked the Mint Babassu deep conditioner, but I stopped using it after the Linda Lynn incident.

[@vegannn7178]

@@nancymonroe7326she let her husband verbally abuse her

[@thisnaturalgirlislocd]

That incident is the reason I stopped using the brand when I was a loose natural because the way she was treated was beyond poorly and if I'm using my hard earned money to purchase/support a brand then customer service and treatment should be professional.

[@KeshaL8410]

I've used several Mielle products and still do and have had no issues with obtaining my products or using the products. I just used the rosemary mint line last week. I still like the products.

[@Tonia682]

2 years ago today I had a washday. A few days later my hair was coming out in huge clumps and my texture changed. At the time I thought it was hormonal issues. Fast forward to last week I saw ladies speaking up about Mielle. I looked back at my hair journal and I used their cowash prior to the shedding and clumps. I’ve never had that reaction to my hair before or after. I’ve always been very careful about how I take care of my hair and health so I’m becoming more and more convinced the cowash was the culprit.

[@annettemint]

Oh my gosh…that’s horrible

[@carinu5444]

I tried the mielle products. Yes, my hair started falling out. Was on a great hair growth journey and it really pissed me off bc it had gotten so long. I started to make my own based on the major elements. I made my own rosemary oil with castor oil. It grew back. My hair got all the down to my but. I just cut off some inches and it feels great. Its still growing out so it isnt as thick as it was before using mielle but its getting there. It took nearly 2 yrs.

[@skayyyy1759]

Gorl, same! I just started using the DIY Sulfur 8 + Doo Gro + Castor oil concoction ⚡️ and stuck to my basics of Aussie Moist

[@shec9686]

Omg my hair has been falling out too. I need to switch asap

[@TheEagleslover]

Thanks for clarifying the business side of these issues. I use Mielle products have no issues. Not this particular line just the moisture milk. I’ll withhold judgement until all the facts are known. I think this market and the constant need to follow trends is a huge factor. Folks need to go back to the simple things when it comes to hair care. I have and my wallet and my hair are doing just fine.

[@Nazinsky]

yep, my hair love love loves the rosemary line, im not going to stop just because some people have adverse reactions - that happens to everyone with certain products, I don't think it's as bad as people say it is. the rosemary line deep conditioner keeps my hair very healthy, same with the oil. i also have type 3c hair though - I am mixed, biracial, so maybe that's why.

[@moniquereid5650]

I came to the comment section to say this exact thing. People always want to switch it up and follow new trends instead of sticking to what works. I’ve never used the rosemary line, but I have used other products from them and my hair is flourishing. I am wondering if the rosemary line is very potent and is being used by heavy-handed people. Maybe less is more with these particular products.

[@user-pd4qj8pb6z]

@@Nazinskybut bw generally buy a lot of hair products. And we tend to jump on lots of hair trends. That plays apart in, it. I know bw can and do grow long hair. But some of us need to keep it simple.

[@Nazinsky]

@@user-pd4qj8pb6z my mom has told me!! She's black so we have a lot of products just because of that, but my hair just can't handle it all

[@me-pz5yi]

Thank you for not being dismissive toward folks’ personal experiences 🙏🏽

[@TheAymoneShow]

Your hair is so chunky and gorgeous! I would love for my hair to be this full and even. Super pretty ❤

[@annettemint]

Aww thank you 💜💜

[@shellygarland8766]

ngl i love that this is bringing back all the OGs on my youtube page!

[@tnwar330]

I have used mielle products with no issue, but I also have thick hair and used Rio hair relaxer back in the 90's with no problems

[@quenquen200726]

Their rosemary oil is supposed to be already mixed with carrier oils and ready to use as is.

[@veronicahawkins8616]

I’m not surprised people are having Issues. essential oil can be tricky as they can cause irritation. Hence why majority brands avoid using them. I think people need to definitely get blood work done to test their vitamin level. Also to find a routine /product and stick with it. Consistency is key. Also pull out them DIY recipes so you don’t have to worry about reformulate products.

[@jnalex100]

Very well said!! Underrated comment.❤

[@vivianotoo441]

But the thing is the product is not purely Rosemary, if you look at the back of the bottle there is a list of different ingredients. If it was purely Rosemary oil then it makes sense to use a carrier oil. The fact that this product isn't means that the Rosemary oil is diluted. If people are complaining about hair loss and it's the same product across the board I believe them there is something that they added to the product that is causing the hair loss.

[@Love-ishuman1]

True

[@kimban5434]

Your hair is absolutely beautiful, thick & healthy!!!😍 I’ve never used the Rosemary mint oil by Mielle, but I love the Rosemary mint hair care line, I’ve had no issues with it, just sorry so many women have lost their hair!😢 but hands down Design Eesentials is my favorite hair care line!!!💜🌹

[@sleepykitsune7170]

The one time being broke saved me my health! I was so close to getting Mielle! I just didn’t have the money for it since I had lost my job and been making my own hairspray using water and cloves 😅

[@UniqueliStunning]

I don’t think it’s the products a lot of the girls complaining always wear wash and gos, leave their hair un stretched and wet for a long time,undercleanse, and deep condition for extensive periods of time. That alone will turn your hair to mush..I feel like that’s what happened with wen too. It was the practices

[@taz9234]

Absolutely, not using this according to the directions this stuff is complete trash

[@themagicalcupcakeunicorn5755]

I’m not sure about the rosemary line, but I have the pomegranate and honey leave in conditioner and use it as instructed, but my hair always feels so dry after. It feels like I just put alcohol on my strands rather than a conditioner. Thankfully my hair has never fallen out, but I don’t think the company is doing their ratios properly when it comes to the ingredients

[@EmeraldsHoneyComb]

@@themagicalcupcakeunicorn5755my hair def felt like straw after using the pomegranate line

[@PrettyEyesz]

I've never used Mielle's hair products because they are too expensive, in my opinion. I don't believe that more expensive means better, or that you should have to pay alot of money to keep your hair healthy and retain length. As a child my mom used VO5 shampoo, Blue Magic Cholesterol as a deep conditioning treatment, and Blue Magic hair grease as a styler and moisturizer, and my hair was strong, healthy, and past my shoulders. I did try some of the newbies like from Shea Moisture, but I saw my hair felt more moisturized with my old school products than these newer ones. So I stick with what has always worked. Plus all my products together cost no more than 10.00 dollars and work well for me. It surly beats paying 10 to 20 dollars for a product that doesn't work. Its messed up women are losing their hair though. I know all to well how traumatizing that can be. I went through it myself but it was due to high stress, and a autoimmune disease. I lost so much hair I had to completely shave the rest off. That was over a year ago and now with the right medication treating my disease, and I'm taking proper care of my hair, its growing back nicely.

[@janeeseaustin3035]

Expensive? Some her products are only $10

[@PrettyEyesz]

@janeeseaustin3035 😂😂😂I may of gotten her products mixed up with another brand but yeah to me 10 is expensive for one product when your use to buying for less or you don't have much money to begin with. If all or most of her products is ten dollars alone for each individual product and you buy her whole line of five different products that adds up to 50.00 dollars which is expensive to me. Some of us including myself don't have that kind of budget to spend like that.

[@S.Uranus]

​@@PrettyEyesz Fair enough

[@tashapierce3735]

Buy some fresh rosemary and peppermint get your fav carrier oil. Put the rosemary/peppermint in a mason jar, add the oil until all of it is soaking in it. You can either put that in a pot of boiling water for 20mins, let sit for 30mins and boom, there you have it. You can even crush the rosemary, add it to boiling water for 10 mins, let steep for 10, add to spray bottle, spray hair after wash before conditioner. I’m telling you, you won’t regret it. Yes, you may have the money to buy these products but at what cost to your health. If your hair is falling out, what is it doing to your inside. Even if you get blood work done it can tell you what your deficient in and take the right stuff in your body to produce the beauty coming out, hair, nails…even your baby 🤷🏽‍♀💜

[@Leah_Tewari]

This is the best comment. ❤❤❤

[@tashapierce3735]

@@Leah_Tewari Awww, Thank you so much beautiful 💜💜🥰

[@jackiestevenson7530]

Thank you so much for this update. I haven’t tried this one before. I really appreciate this information. God bless you and have a wonderful and blessed day.🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹❤️😍🙏🏽🙌🏽

[@annettemint]

You are very welcome. ❤❤

[@debrasmith4623]

I bought some of the Rose Mary growth oil for my granddaughter WELL I noticed small ball spots popping up on her scalp after a month of using it, I stopped using it not knowing that it probably was the oil, I threw it out because I got a bad feeling that it probably was the cause, I'm glad I got rid of it

[@smokeyfan]

Very informative video. I have used the Pomegranate Honey line and the infamous Rosemary Mint Oil. I still use the former product line (as my hair likes the Pomegeanate Honey leave-in) but am apprehensive about repurchasing it now. I inherited a half bottle of the oil from my aunt years before the sale of Mielle to P&G and didn't have problems with it. I didn't purchase it after the half bottle was done (as it didn't seem to make a difference one way or the other). I had one correction to make, the Rosemary Mint Oil is a ready to use oil. It's primary ingredients are two carrier oils (soybean and castor) and don't require additional carrier oils. So the TikTokers who said women who were directly applying it to their scalp were in the wrong are wrong themselves.

[@EmeraldsHoneyComb]

It's four lines the rosemary line, ginger line, rice water line, and the pomegranate line I use to use the original peony line for years until the kinda scandal and when I tried the new lines it def made my perimeter fall out and it's still not back I stopped using the original line as well because I cannot be out here with no hair unless I want to

[@Simply_Mimi1017]

Love your hair and your glasses ❤. I stopped using Mielle I used to love the babassu DC and the entire pomegranate line

[@maryfields877]

I had to read up on this today, specifically about the oil. Rosemary oil is very potent and from my understanding overuse will cause your scalp to become irritated and will make you hair fall out. It is recommended to put it on your scalp prior to washing and conditioning your hair. I put it on my temples after I lost my hair from covid. Only use the product for a total of 3 times since last year so I haven't noticed anything.

[@Nazinsky]

in its essential oil form definitely. same with peppermint, it can be dangerous if not properly put in carrier oils

[@Baytaylove]

Yea I need all ma hair products made by blk . I have a strong rotation.Tph / 22nd century/alikay natural/& cécred I refuse to add or try any new hair products.Beyonce wuz ma last add on & sometimes I do order from oyin handmade I like the fact they have 1liter bottles.

[@AuthorLHollingsworth]

I've used only the Bansau and Mint deep conditioner, and I love it. It's unfortunate that the brand is falling apart. Sad!

[@lesasmith]

I used the growth oil and yes it brought my hair out. I only used it twice .I contacted the company and they sent me $10 debit card!!!!

[@Leah_Tewari]

What?! $10???? 😮

[@S.Uranus]

LMAO WHAT 😭😭😭

[@S.Uranus]

Sorry about your hair for real, though, but them giving you only 10 dollars is crazy. 😓

[@lesasmith]

@@Leah_Tewari Yes, a $10 gift card, maybe to be quiet. I didnt cash it! crazy!!

[@AIAW]

I used one of their product for the first time and my hair became brittle and fell out!!! I will never touch any of their products again.

[@louiseob1731]

I remember 3 months ago I used the oil and I had massaged it into my scalp but then my scalp started hurting and my hair looked like straw

[@veronicamwarren5750]

I have used the styling products in the pomegranate line and the mint deep conditioner. I didn’t experience any problems. But I didn't use them consistently either. I understand the business side. Sometimes, people sell and collaborate it might be the other side of the company, which might not be using exactly what was used originally before the sold it. It's hard when you experience hair loss been there. I pray things get better for ladies with the hair loss and Mielle. I love to see black hair businesses succeed. I just stick to my favorite products that work for me and pray they stick to their formulas.

[@tarikenkeyari8959]

I had healthy thick 4c hair. I was open to trying different products. One day I washed and conditioned with ORX volume shampoo and conditioner then the next day when I tried to moisturize my hair kept falling out. My thick afro hair kept falling and became thin. I went on Amazon to read reviews. All the reviews praised the product but one white lady gave a comment saying it made her hair fall out. I learned from it. I found what works and stuck with it.

[@quenquen200726]

See that's another reason why I believe it may have something to do with P&G because I've read reviews on drugstore shampoos and conditioners and some people experienced hair loss. ORX was one of them among others.

[@tarikenkeyari8959]

I made a mistake The product that made my hair fall out is actually OGX Extra Strength Thick & Full + Biotin & Collagen Shampoo and Conditioner

[@quenquen200726]

@@tarikenkeyari8959I meant to say OGX instead of ORX.

[@tarikenkeyari8959]

Yes.

[@quenquen200726]

@@tarikenkeyari8959 No I was talking about me.

[@MakaylaG-y7y]

I thank God that I only bought a few Mielle products over the years, and was never consistent, and never finished any products 😭🙏🏽

[@ossier2796]

I’ve never used products by this company but I did use some Deva Curl products including No Poo and didn’t have hair fall out but there are so many variables.

[@LisePlansandJournals]

Ok fun fact: this video is not about Devacurl nor No Poo. So the comparison here is moot.

[@ElexusLovesHerLife]

I saw the ingredients and immediately put it down, that oil was never going on my scalp!

[@TheeSimoneB]

There isn’t a plateau in black business; there’s an opportunity to collaborate with other black brands and build. The problem is that everyone wants to be the main/only product and not the option.

[@shellisa04]

Me, my mother, sister hair fell out the same year. We all used different hair products and had different diets. We thought someone put a curse on us. If we had all used the same hair products, we could have easily blamed that.

[@NycBeauty]

Hi pretty , you hair is GORGEOUS 🌺

[@ChanaTheWarrior]

Yes i am still using her products. But I discontinued using the Rosemary oil because of what I have been hearing. Also because I myself have been loosing a lot of hair for past two months and I didn’t understand why, now it makes since, I have been using this Rosemary oil almost daily for past 4-5 months and my hair loss is like never before. I now know it is because of this oil but I don’t want to complain about it because I don’t believe it is Moniques fault and I still support her and this brand. I have been using the pomegranate honey lime for over 5 years and I have Chad no issues with it. So I’ll keep using this specific line and skip the Rosemary line.

[@tracylewis552]

I was using a product for the first time and my scalp was itching and irritated. I never used it again. And it is a well known black company!

[@Raven5563]

I used Mielle growth oil -- what, last night-- no problems. My bottle is probably more than 6 months old. No hair loss. 😊 I have mature locs, almost calf length.

[@LisePlansandJournals]

Ok wow so to hell with all the other hundreds of women who experienced issues. The gaslighting from bw to other be about this issue is insane.

[@cocobrowns]

My daughter and I have been using Mielle for years! We specifically stick to the avocado and milk line. Our hair loves that stuff. It is unfortunate that they are going through this. I think that they should just pull the rosemary and mint line as this is the lie that is causing the most issues. I really believe that they should not have sold it to P & G. They might have the same ingredients but they will be massed produced and processed differently. Lets hope that they get it together.

[@aliciahaywood9188]

I tried some of Mielle products years ago. I stopped using the products because there was too much oil in it and I don't like that greasy feeling!

[@theroadlesstravelled7754]

I have been using the rosemary line and it is horrible for me. I used the mask and my hair was so matted, idk what happened. I had to another conditioner and took along time to de-tangle. It left my hair feeling rough and dry. The leave-in didn't help. I don't use the oil often but i do experience some some itching. I'm deficient in anything per my blood work. I have been experiencing breakage but I didn't think it was the product. I will stop and see what happens.

[@thecure3982]

I would get a professional blow dried cut maybe your hair was over cleansed. It sounds like the cuticle was damaged. I like rosemary for the scalp but not the actual strands because it’s astringent.

[@briggittestevenson4942]

Love your review on this❤ I've never used any of her products at all. However, my bestie used the Pomegranate line and developed a horrible rash on scalp, and her face swole up badly a few yrs ago. For me, the way she and her husband went after the KZbinr LL for her personal review was out of line. Constructive criticism is a part of life. Get some thicker skin. Others still bought and liked it. Focus on them. As far as the selling, that's her business. I think as a black consumer, we are rooting for these inventors and want to see them succeed, and a lot of money is spent. I think it frustrates many that lg companies love to swoop in after all the work is done and "take over" stating the person has a "say" in the business. But they don't completely own it anymore. Many of our inventions have been stolen or paid out with "them" holding the bigger bag, and they always certainly change something. It's the entire history behind it that I think bothers ppl the most. I pray a resolve happens for all involved and Mielle a continued success.

[@allurachanel]

the first time i ever used the hair oil my scalp felt so sore and tender. threw it out and never used it again.

[@caroline9565]

Interesting…I have been using this oil for several years and my hair loves it and my hair has grown. I only use the oil once on my scalp and massage my scalp on the 2nd day after my wash day. I only oil my scalp once a week after wash day. Define “hair fell out”. I do not use any other Mielle products. My hair loves TGIN, Shea Moisture, and Carol’s Daughter. I have low porosity hair.

[@trenee23000]

Any problems with the shampoo and conditioners?

[@kensmb8668]

I'm not convinced the formulas are left untouched. If I'm not mistaken, the Honey Pot founder admitted because of the mass production and preservation method, the formulas had to change. I further believe formulas change because many of the products initially intended for textured hair, they have to make them more marketable for all hair types. I noticed it with Carol's Daughter and other brands. At this point, just use products that work best for your hair and create an effective regimen.

[@ltgemini1599]

Wait. Is thats whats wrong with my hair???!!! I've been using a leavein and my hair is uncharacteristically hard and stays knotted and matted. I have been cutting the knots. Ive been natural all my hair has always been thicker but not anymore.

[@ltgemini1599]

I went and had bloodwork and saw a dermatologist and nothing was detected.

[@FatHeadEnterprises]

I've been using the rosemary mint oil for a little while and a little chunk of my hair came out as I was washing. I did just have braids in so maybe it's just hair that shed?....I'm in denial chile lol

[@LisePlansandJournals]

Denial? Well keep using it. Enjoy

[@newell2003]

Then need to have the products tested by an outside lab. Then you’ll know if the product changed. Don’t take their word.

[@itsmebedazzle]

My hair has been shedding an breaking so bad and all I have been using for the longest is Mielle products and I thought it was due to hormones. I even have some new products I haven't used because videos like this have been popping up in my feed.

[@thecure3982]

You can see a dermatologist and get a scalp biopsy and some vitamin testing… That’s what I did with hormonal androgenic alopecia treatment can make the hair loss worse than hair grows back thicker… You can look it up Rogaine and rosemary to shedding and then the new growth comes back thick.

[@aquafina6544]

I haven't looked at that brand in 4 plus yrs after they did linda dirty. She the ex owner knew there were problems with her products b4 the incident with lindaand she kept playing in ppls heads for profits

[@michelleervin8997]

Temu sells the Mielle Rosemary oil.

[@LisePlansandJournals]

Likely fake.

[@michelleervin8997]

They’re surely bold about it. Usually, the manufacturer would change the label but they got everything the same.

[@demetrisrobinson4026]

It’s not only not a black owned anymore and sometimes when that happens, the company changes everything about the product. And that’s is why I stopped buying it because it was no longer interested in our hair of color.

[@AtizayFantezi_Art]

I just bought some lol so i am but its a protein thing so i shouldnt be using it every wash

[@aquafina6544]

Her products were already problematic and causing loss b4 she sold the company.

[@nikkis.9747]

The problem is that whenever they sell, the quality of the products goes down.

[@dmystfy]

Qhemet Biologics is the best hair brand ever!

[@pienke_1232]

Sabbotage always all the time

[@ossier2796]

There’s no such thing as growth oil. Brittle and hard yet oily is how raw coconut oil made my hair feel so I stopped using it.

[@theroadlesstravelled7754]

But in her statement, she used the oil straight from the bottle so, this carrier oil instruction didn't come from her.

[@beautifultina7484]

I'm done with them. I just started having hair breakage and I’ve been using them about two years. The product is crap, throwing it all in the trash.

[@annettemint]

Oh my goodness..I hope your hair recovers.

[@michellekennedy4995]

I think and only me. She pissed someone off in the youtube Natural hair community and now they are coming after her. It has nothing to do with selling out or anything like that because I am sure they all have Shea Moisture in their shower cabinet. It's just a bunch of black women jumping this woman virtually. They drag anyone who doesn't kiss their ring. Yes, I used grease and nonblack mass market products.

[@thecure3982]

I’m now seeing the lady who came against mielle years ago talking and it turns out it was more to the story than I thought…Originally we were led to think that she just received a phone call from the brand owners husband out of the blue after leaving a negative review and that her customer data was stolen… This was shocking and made me fear shopping with them… Now she shares that she actually had a working relationship with these people so now it makes sense how they had her information. of course the Mielle lady was in the comment section trying to work it out and give instruction on how to use the product… no wonder they wanted to sue her. Honey it had me not shopping with them the way it was told originally! I thought that they were stealing phone numbers! People acted like she had left them positive review after positive review and was ignored for years and never acknowledged by Mielle and to me of course as somebody that loves the natural hair community on KZbin and the work these ladies do I wasn’t down with that… I want to see them protected and compensated… so I stop shopping with them for years. Even though I really needed a protein conditioner. But it turns out she had worked with them before and also had said “here’s the price to take the video down!!!” Now I know it’s normal for companies to pay for bad reviews to be removed but I kind of respect that they didn’t pay granted that they had a working relationship with her previously. that’s just kind of weird to go about it that way if you know what I mean. The young lady in question is now saying that the mielle owner told people not to work with her… Well yeah if a brand works with you and then you post a negative review and they try to discuss product being used in properly with you and there are other people in the comment section saying that the product is not being used properly and then you say pay me or the video it’s gonna stay up that’s a “money grab” if anything. If I were a brand I wouldn’t want to work with her based on what she’s saying. I may repost this comment… I feel like I was used as ammunition as a consumer.

[@LisePlansandJournals]

So the women whose hair is coming out in clumps are faking it? Lying? With clumps of their hair in their hands? Are y’all hearing yourselves? Women from all over the world? Black women who are very very obsessed with hair? Steups.

[@gmcmim1]

The reason their hair is falling out is because you do not leave oil on the scalp. You are supposed to cleanse it out with shampoo. Our scalp produces natural oil called sebum. And if that gets too excessive that causes hair fall. Do not take my word for it. Check out Cyn Doll. She made a video about this Mielle situation.

[@DannISmith-tm6lf]

Well for me I just lightly spray my scalp with water than apply the oil and boom gone about my day

[@PrayerinJesusnameWarriorinJesu]

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR LONG RANTING, I DON'T IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH.

[@thecure3982]

I click to hear her speak what is wrong with you

[@LisePlansandJournals]

Then uh.. why are you here..? Why did you click the video?

[@PrayerinJesusnameWarriorinJesu]

@@LisePlansandJournals I know you Right, I left.

[@beautifultina7484]

I'm done with them. I just started having hair breakage and I’ve been using them about two years. The product is crap, throwing it all in the trash.