Announcing MuseScore 4 - a gigantic overhaul!

[@musescore]

Interested in learning more? Watch this video about how MuseScore 4 was made! kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5TXZ3-Bl9OYgbM

[@angysg4604]

will they release a version for windows 8.1?

[@superhotnutjob]

Anyone else having issues downloading it? I can't download it for some reason. From the "check updates" in Musescore 3, or from the website.

[@eli-free973]

@@superhotnutjob Anche io ho problemi come te a scaricarlo

[@heatherbuechelartistry]

@@superhotnutjob I can't download it for windows 8 and had same problem in musescore 3 from updates.

[@renaldym.mamonto2758]

I hope for the 32 bytes🙏🏻🥺

[@NoahStolee]

tantacrul critiquing then joining musescore and making it incredible is one of the most interesting things to happen on youtube imo

[@superhotnutjob]

Best way to improve your product is to hire its thoughtful and capable critics.

[@AlexPies1]

musescore said "you don't like our system? we'd like to see you do better" and martin said "ok"

[@Thomas-yl8lb]

@@superhotnutjob Well said.

[@KingJellyfishII]

biggest madlad of all time. also shows how musescore was actually open to improving unlike some other software he critiqued

[@ilonachan]

It's the beauty of Open Source Software. I'm just so happy that him and the MuseScore core dev team hit it off so well, bc this collaboration is empirically improving the world rn

[@benjaminzeev2177]

The fact that this video is only 4 minutes when it feels like it was 10 minutes long with all the information packed..... you guys wrote and edited this video extremely well

[@knownas2017]

I literally had to check the video length to see if this was legit I can't believe it's only 4 minutes. lol

[@KadeSound]

four minutes for musecore 4, how fitting :D also this looks wonderful

[@sandrobalk2978]

I cannot describe how hyped I am… The new design just looks wonderful, and what on earth did we do to deserve an audio engine that sounds this great for free?!… Can't wait for it to go public - Thank you, the team, and everyone who participated and participates in development all so much for this stunning work!

[@SyncronedStuff]

They are not like apple. Musescore makes their money with the website, and makes their software free. Gigachad move tbh

[@sean8190]

How was this comment made 2 months ago? This video was released 3 days ago today...

[@EddieZedd]

@@sean8190 I assume this was someone who was privy to a private link while this was still in alpha or beta.

[@ngarrangements6794]

Bro I was literally sitting here freaking out and being extra hyped at 2am over a scoring software that just became more amazing than it already was. Thank you MuseScore

[@Vininn126]

Not only is it high quality it's OPEN SOURCE. This is something I strongly believe in. Technology and information should be accessible (I say this as a Wiktionary editor)

[@HansvandeBruggen]

I actually had to double check that this was indeed open source software. These are upgrades that should put paid alternatives on notice.

[@huantian]

@@HansvandeBruggen I’m not sure if Muse Hub is open source though.

[@peterwmdavis]

They’ve got to fund a team of full-time employees somehow. That’s ok.

[@huantian]

@@peterwmdavis hm?

[@kanubeenderman]

it is ok to have it for a small fee - the developers should be paid for their hard work, especially for such a great tool, they don't eat air after all. :)

[@MorikawaMelodies]

I hope they make a new playback mode where they get real people to play the music from wherever you hit play from (available 24/7 and free, of course)

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

Well AI is likely going to become sentient within our lifetime, so you may just get your wish. Course, now that opens up a whole can of worms on whether forcing sentient AI to play music on command is digital slavery... EDIT: Guys, come on, use context clues. This is a response to someone's joke about how they want real people to play music for them on demand. Yes, obviously, using non-sentient AI would fix the problem. But that doesn't play into the joke about using real people to provide a free service on demand, now does it?

[@applesarefum]

There should be a hyper realistic setting where, when you stop playback, some instruments keep going for a bar or two, as if the players weren't watching the conductor

[@paulysguitarjournal]

@@applesarefum that and the players keeping getting mad at you for stopping and extending the session. 🤣

[@paulysguitarjournal]

@@imveryangryitsnotbutter AI will only do what it is programmed to do.

[@superhotnutjob]

@@paulysguitarjournal Someone hasn't seen Ex Machina

[@anandlandon44]

Musescore went from being that decent notation software you could use for free to the literal future of free music software

[@AlekSaltproduction]

Can it do an orchestration by styles?

[@OninDynamics]

future of music software in general if the interface responsible for sending messages to Muse Sounds becomes a standard

[@gtctv7000]

@@OninDynamics it'd need a LOT more refinement for that tho. It's incredible for now but still riddled with bugs/errors etc. For example, if a note on a violin is too long, it will just play a shorter note twice or that it will stress random notes for no reason etc

[@Ermude10]

@@gtctv7000 I'm sure there's an endless amount of work that needs to be done. The important part is how far they've already come, and that they've built a very solid foundation IMO.

[@caseyspaos448]

Or it will be if they fix the countless bugs that render it unusable

[@Superphilipp]

The improved horizontal spacing is going to make everything soooo much nicer. It's the one thing that makes almost all MS scores recognizably wonky.

[@superhotnutjob]

The spacing was always very sketchy on the old version. I didn't like that even just spacing out bars to even them out was always a time-consuming struggle.

[@herobrine1847]

I’m so excited over 2:00. I’ve spent hours meticulously trying to adjust this kind of spacing manually.

[@caretchara]

this

[@namenamename390]

I love how the eye icon Martin proposed in his intial MuseScore video has found its way into the program, albeit for a different function.

[@boserboser6870]

Lets see if theres a way to make it shival up and die as an easter egg

[@zenzizenzic]

+

[@joemcken]

I don’t even use MuseScore (Sibelius user), but I’m still jazzed about all the upgrades it’s receiving. The new audio engine and VST integration in particular are killer. Super happy for MS users. I’m also happy that this is gonna create more stiff competition in the scorewriter app space, especially from a free alternative - maybe it’ll crank up the heat under _certain_ paid-app developers to up their game. I’m _avidly_ awaiting what comes next.

[@EmjayMusic05]

Ahaha i see what you did there

[@bonbondojoe1522]

Sibelius crashed

[@joemcken]

@@bonbondojoe1522 HOW DID YOU KN- oh

[@ferusskywalker9167]

@Nathaniel Walker MuseScore Pro doesn't affect the software, it only affects the cloud website. You have all features unlocked without paying. (It's $72 a year or $6 a month)

[@cinamontoast2555]

@Nathaniel Walker As a musescore user, i fully agree that Sibelius is better. i use muse score because poor

[@colemckittrick]

To Tantacrul and the whole Musescore team who put thousands of hours into this, thank you! Your work is appreciated by so many, so incredibly proud to say I’ve been supporting musescore since 1.0

[@ivanfaigenbom5300]

This is amazing. Long live to musescore and open source software. Thank you to all the people who put energy time and effort towards this.

[@123TeeMee]

Honestly they’re like imbuing their soul into it. Had that happen to me at a hackathon once, was a bit trippy

[@HBMmaster]

literally every change mentioned had me saying "oh FINALLY"

[@dangerouscolors]

"new all, forever" as a callback to what started this all made me more emotional than it shouldve lol. so excited to play around with all the new features!!

[@KanashimiMusic]

Can you give me a timestamp? Apparently I completely missed that

[@rotor7726]

@@KanashimiMusic It's the sheet music at 00:38 - for the benefit of future readers it's a reference to this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apm9qaJva91nbqM

[@boserboser6870]

I honestly want to hear what new all, forever sounds like now

[@VIUSmusic]

As a Dorico user myself, I'm beyond excited for MuseScore's future. If you guys ever create an automatic condensing feature like the one currently found in Dorico, I think I could totally switch to MuseScore for good. Huge respect to the hard work you've all been doing - I'll be watching you folks with great interest in the coming year

[@Matzix3012]

I will stay with the original and support Doricos developer team. All announced ideas appeared on dorico first. This makes me not use MuseScore anymore from a moral point of view.

[@iilwy]

@@Matzix3012 let me just load up Microsoft Paint instead of Photoshop because they made the original tools first

[@zacharynovak2180]

@@Matzix3012 Let me get out my stone and chisel because they made writing and drawing first, can’t use any kind of writing implement or software that blatantly PLAGIARIZES the inventions of our ancestors.

[@rickpgriffin]

@@Matzix3012 "you stole my idea" playground insults. There's nothing immoral about doing something that someone else also did--there is no ethical requirement for all ideas to be one hundred percent original. Of course someone else did it first, these are solved problems. Question always is, can you do it better?

[@vladimirtubic6060]

@@Matzix3012 it's called healthy competition and it's not like they stole their code, you know.

[@Kristiroller]

I’ve been using museacore since around 2017 and this feels like Christmas. Thank you so much for working to keep this on par (if not worlds better) than finale and Sibelius and keeping it free! This is beyond perfect and I love all the people who made this possible!! Thank you!!! ❤❤❤

[@asher99]

I mean, it _is_ about Christmas time, so, you're not wrong! 🎀✨🎉

[@gogo_crunchy8926]

I feel the same! Ive been using Musescore since 2014 and this is beyond Amazing. I feel like my whole life will change with this amazing upgrade

[@benjaminvanroekel3643]

A prime example of why FOSS is a necessity! Everyone can have access to a professional level notation and engraving software. Great job to the MuseScore team and community!

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

I'd love to use their QML framework, but I cannot commit to GPL on my work :(

[@MrGamelover23]

@@RoamingAdhocrat Why not?

[@OninDynamics]

​@@MrGamelover23 If a work uses GPL for its license, _all_ other derivatives stemming from it must also be GPL Perhaps they work for a company that does proprietary software, i dunno

[@morsikpl]

@@RoamingAdhocrat But QML is not their's. It comes from Qt framework which is licensed as LGPL, not GPL.

[@aetimes2]

@@morsikpl I'm pretty sure they mean the framework that they built using QML

[@richardpenrose1968]

Wow!! This looks and sounds amazing! I’m currently using a paid product but when Musescore 4 becomes available I will be selling it. Huge thank you to everyone that has worked so hard in making this product!!

[@metalfoot7]

The VST3 instruments makes me unreasonably excited in and of itself, let alone the other improvements!

[@tobinfox]

Has anyone told the dev's that they are the coolest people. Can someone please give them a hug and a high five from me?

[@quin2392]

i agree they deserve it

[@DavidBennettPiano]

YES MARTIN! This looks great! Can’t wait ❤🎉

[@elijahtrepel3710]

I’ve been using Musescore since around 2014, and it still boggles my mind how such amazing software can still be free!!! This update is the most exciting yet! Props to the development team, they really knocked it out of the park 🎉🎼🎵

[@whoe_whate8487]

One thing I’d like to see overhauled is the accidental notation system. Currently, when you apply an microtonal accidental (half sharp, 31EDO accidentals, etc) - it doesn’t do anything. You have to manually go into the menu and change the tuning of the note by yourself. This can be a real difficult process when working on, or creating projects that aren’t written with the standard 12-TET system. If these types of accidentals actually changed the note like the regular sharps or flats, I think it would be appreciated by a lot of people.

[@bradley-kunda]

I can’t imagine this being too complicated to implement - definitely something we will look into as we improve our features for contemporary music notation 🙂

[@triskai]

Seconded, microtonal accidentals are something I do use occasionally, and I know people who use them a lot - and it would be quite an improvement to have them be more than just cosmetic.

[@iamnaudar]

I can’t wait for the beta to be released ! I am so hyped !

[@selesti.official]

the orchestral plugin is INCREDIBLE. can't imagine the amount of work put into getting such a lively, in-concert sound

[@pikachuchujelly7628]

It's nice, but I'm worried about feature creep. I normally just notate in MuseScore, export as MIDI and then import it into a DAW and get it sounding better than Musescore ever could.

[@dauphindauphin6607]

@@pikachuchujelly7628 just you listen to some of my MuseScore 4 pieces of classical composers.

[@prfctstrm]

I am so thankful for the higher quality instrument selection. I've mostly moved on to more conventional DAWs but the difficulty it takes to find good plugins with a budget of $0 kills lots of projects, and MS's wide selection can be a lifesaver

[@jrjoyce6290]

After using this app for so long, seeing these amazing changes fills me with happiness. Thank you so much Tantacrul.

[@faastex]

I still can't believe we're getting all this for free, amazing

[@peterjurgens5968]

Wow that sounds really great! Like developers actually caring about what the community wants and what improves the user's life...

[@Kougeru]

It's honestly crazy that this is free. You guys are fostering the creativity of countless musicians now

[@VGPbr]

Brilliant! Proud of the little part I had on the progress of this wonderful software by landing help to the translation to my language from time to time.

[@bradley-kunda]

Thank you for your help with this! 🙏

[@marvinko6610]

This goes above and beyond what anyone would expect from free notation software. Really well done! Can't wait to play with the new version

[@oscarnival6164]

Brutal! Musescore went from a decent competitor in its field to the only option by great difference

[@macart5429]

As a young composer and musician, you can’t even start to think how hyped and excited I am after finding out and trying out Musescore 4 for the first this Friday afternoon. This is is game changing for all of us! I immediately noticed not a small ….but BIG difference in my scores after installing the new sounds. Interface is simpler than it was even in v3.6 Thank you so much! For you and the rest of the Musescore team, hard work pay off.

[@nrauschermusic]

As someone who’s been toiling away in finale for 12 years, and dreading trying to learn (and foot the bill for) dorico… I’m literally crying tears of joy. I was so excited to see what Martin would do with MuseScore and it looks so amazing.

[@sihplak]

I've been a long-time MuseScore user (since 2014! MuseScore 1!) and I can't express how immensely happy I am with its development and trajectory. VST integration is such a powerful and versatile feature given just how many VSTs are out there to utilize. It wasn't mentioned in the video, but will mixing/mastering/effects software (e.g. EQs, reverb plug-ins, etc) also work or have future implementation?

[@musescore]

VST effects work now. Moreover, there are a bunch of free VST effects (Muse FX) available via the Muse Hub too.

[@VHCosta]

@@musescore this is genius ❤️

[@IamBrianDickson]

Really appreciate all the effort, improving this excellent app. I hope the needs of guitarist are not forgotten

[@zachpower2192]

Humanity does not deserve how incredible and accessible this seems. Thank you!

[@stanncat4344]

I am amazed with where musescore has gotten to from when I used it as my primary notation software getting into and for a good bit of my undergraduate degree in composition.

[@chrissinger24]

It would honestly be amazing for the musical community to make MuseScore the default rather than Sibelius and Finale. Knowledge should for most intents and purposes always be free. I feel very grateful to be able to benefit from the rinkydink means to notate work on a netbook cira 2013 to now.

[@Lucerious92]

Wow I’m actually pretty hyped for this. I want to play around with the new update as soon as I can!

[@kelanowen706]

This is an awesome update that shows the Musescore creators truly care for their product. So happy!

[@mathumphreys]

Wow! I can't wait to look into the new audio engine and mixing panel etc.

[@Semicolon42]

Looks incredible! I wonder what Tantacruel will think of the redesign ;)

[@Szystedt]

Very excited to see all the changes Tantacrul has made!

[@sacalius_papalagius]

The hype is really big. Can't wait for the new orchestral playback. Also, one big improvement for the next big upgrade would be easier support for contemporaray notation, other than that musescore is the best composing/engraving software

[@alexshi-ban6825]

O, yes!!! Thanks for supporting VST! I love you!

[@its_not_nice]

It's... pretty nice.

[@davespriter]

it’s a small thing, but i teared up about how easy the instrument panel looks. and then the video kept going! i’ve been anticipating a revamp since way back when tantacrul mentioned joining musescore’s development, and this exceeded expectations for me. this looks absolutely amazing. thank you.

[@diar3222]

I am so impressed by the work by the people at Musescore, I can not be more excited for this release!

[@tillsito6022]

I can’t describe how hyped I am :D I literally was running around like a child at Christmas hahaha

[@AlisaF]

The new souds are stunning! And the update came RIGHT. PERFECT. I was able to create an awesome composition for a school project even though I wasn't so much into compositing at all. :D

[@a_wild_Kirillian]

Astonishing work! That is such a huge event for this sphere

[@ProfRonanMC]

What an incredible achievement! The whole MuseScore team have delivered a truly sensational app that shows the power of a community of dedicated collaborators. Well done, all you clever young people! And thank you, Martin, for turning your meticulous sense of design and ergonomics onto this project!

[@RenatoPernett]

Amen with Aleluya! Thank you for this Christmas gift Musescore team. Tentracul my man... We need that delightful Finale Video ASAP with some fatality scenes using Muscore 4 as a true champion it is.

[@yevgeniynikitenko9832]

How to uninstall Muse Hub service in Windows 10? At the moment this is not possible. Why distribute software that can't be uninstalled?

[@frankD.baere-orchestralmockups]

This is really a Major Update. I have never really used Musescore for projects, but since version 4 I only use Musescore!. This program can really be placed above the two market leaders Sibelius and Finale. TOP work.🙂👍👍👍

[@jakovkartelo]

You guys are doing a samaritans job! Biggest thanks and congratulations to the team behind Musescore 4! This is like a second Christmas!

[@codybenner179]

I'll always use Musescore, having a free product this great with a team that cares so much is rare. Idk I cant be thankful for this company enough thank y'all

[@potestoniko]

omfg the new "museSounds" sounds pretty damn good, like something I've been waiting for years! now the only thing that Im missing is the Video Suport and I can practically re-structure my Film-scoring pipeline, but that does not bother me because I pretty shure you guys will deliver it sometime in the near future!

[@Yo_ca_va]

AAAAAH!!! I mean lovely! How very nice it seems to be, I'm downloading it right away

[@bxp_bass]

WOW DAMN! I love opensource for decades and this is gives me euphoria! Thank you

[@lapiscarrot3557]

This is amazing! I've always wanted cross-staff beaming and accelerandos, can't wait to try out Musescore 4!

[@Mantorp86]

I’m starting to believe that Santa exists..best gift ever!

[@matthewlove9960]

I've been hyped about this for a long while now. This has certainly exceeded my expectations

[@jazztranscriptionssax]

Amazing, thank You for Your software, Musescore team ❤️😊

[@alicec1533]

I've always loved MuseScore, and now I may just love it even more! All these updates are so great :) Thank you, MuseScore team.

[@charlesbaker1200]

As a musescore user, this looks awesome. Like 100% this will be a gamechanger

[@jarfo9663]

I genuinely can't believe how great it looks, at this point, musescore will become the best music notation software in the industry, even better than sibelius or finale.

[@kalesyps764]

yeah this is the update ive been waiting for to drop Sibelius

[@kalesyps764]

like ive been using Sibelius Ultimate for 6 years now, and there has literally been 0 major changes, or quality of life improvements. Byyyyeeee avid thanks for frustration and locking my scores away when i cant afford your product

[@archbox8593]

Looks awesome however for dark mode the note sheet should also be dark otherwise you are still looking at a bright editor. But a step in the right direction :) Edit: this is nitpicking. Obviously this version is amazing!!

[@MrAlfredDM]

This is really exciting, and the fact it's free is mindblowing. Congratulations on this! It looks absolutely awesome and reliable!

[@checkmate2099]

Excited!

[@esch7055]

FANTASTIC... please don't forget to implement multiple similes

[@SolunaPiano]

This is beyond inspiring. I'm lost for words. Thank you Tantacrul and the Musescore team!!

[@johnchessant3012]

This is absolutely amazing.

[@JoakimMonsen]

In 4 minutes of course!

[@PeregArBagol]

CRAZY work there ! Thank you so much

[@d3xbot]

This was surprisingly information-dense while remaining short, sweet, and to the point -and- easily followable. Good job on the reveal video!

[@Samnewtonmusic]

This looks incredible. So pumped.

[@labete19]

WOW!!! This is amazing. Not tryna come out other companies but I love how accessible Musescore is for everyone because its free. I was already blown away with version 3 but version 4 is even better. This company is the kind of company I'd support for a lifetime. Super excited to upgrade and start using it today!!! Will I be able to open up all my older projects and update the settings into those sessions?

[@mir1999]

New All Forever!

[@reinhard_silaen]

That VST support man, really love it.

[@kyleraftery3268]

So pumped!!! Love MuseScore and these updates look incredible. Can't wait.

[@karlbenedictperez8655]

Just wow. I am literally speechless rn. Thank you everyone behind Musescore ye guys are making the world a better place.

[@kuwitt7941]

Thank's Martin so much for your efforts and contribution.

[@crysiscore2051]

As someone who’s historically had to use Finale for my job…I’m keeping my eye on this and testing it!

[@e3498-v7l]

Great work! MuseScore has matured tremendously under Martin's leadership. I can't wait for what new releases bring.

[@PS3PCDJ]

I'm neither a composer nor a player, but I can just feel the sheer mass of the improvements that have been done. Great job

[@MrExplosion449]

This looks really really great. I can’t wait to try this out

[@youssefbenlemlih]

Hat to all the people who worked on this update! 🔥🔥🔥

[@donseitan]

Does someone know how can i play a guitar muted string in musescore? Whenever I change the notehead to an 'X'. the note sounds exactly the same as any normal note.

[@OganySupreme]

2:02 Okay, this improvement while it may seem small, is so impressive! Congratulations to the incredible Musescore team for this release!

[@noahbots]

Truly amazing! I loved musescore already, but this is just perfect!

[@fingerhorn4]

Well done Tantacrul and team. Fantastic achievement and it's free. Amazing.

[@pierfrancescominicangeli3595]

I've been using Musescore for years, I'm so happy with this new version. This is on another level, it's insane!

[@paulbergel9191]

Version 4 looks amazing! Congratulations to everyone involved with it!!

[@BenjaminCollinMusic]

This is incredible for the future of music composition!

[@simonarenaud]

The new notation font looks beautiful

[@PaladinVII]

I just got started using Musescore about two to three weeks ago. This looks amazing, especially the new playback.