Another 5 Terrible Decisions in Cyberpunk 2077

[@Requiem4aDr3Am]

quick summary. Don't go with revenge, always check on your neighbors who are going through a hard time, never pass up a chance to crucify a murderer, always follow married women inside buildings, don't bully hot girls who we hopefully get to hook up with in phantom liberty, and stalk the stalker

[@SamBram]

Yep, that about sums it up 😅

[@farendiil]

LMAO

[@farendiil]

spot on

[@thecursed01]

Also get the mod to have a nice sidestory and romance wirh sleeping beauty aka bugbear

[@Strykerx31]

And Never Let Johnny Silverhand be a Narrator.

[@SharkyShocker]

I think the most heart breaking and painful fact I've experienced is that I've done every single side mission, every single gig, all of them almost perfectly. And yet, I somehow missed Jackie's funeral and had no idea it even happened.

[@Fury9er]

It depends on where you tell delamain to take his body after konpeki plaza. Anyting other than sending him to his family lets 'saka goons take him and mama Welles will only do the service with his body.

[@Gireg]

@@Fury9er You only have 3 choices regarding his body, his family, Viktor and don't move. I chose the don't move in my first playthrough, not expecting the obvious betrayal to come right after, and his bodies was later taken to his family so I could still get his funeral.

[@krig6ix]

​@@Gireg which one do choose and how do I see the funeral 😭😭

[@Gireg]

@@krig6ix If you want to see the funeral you have to send his body to his family or tell Delamain to not move. Later, I think 3 in game days, you will be called by his mother that wants to make the funeral;

[@Julio-GG]

I said just leave him because I'll be right back, then obviously V gets capped but I still got to go to his wake​@@Fury9er

[@heyitsvonage2768]

Seriously though, if Claire wanted V to murder someone, she could've just asked.

[@jaketheman1577]

Right hired mercenary, trail of bodies, like it's kinda our thing.

[@MrVirus9898]

I always found it odd whenever V talks about morality and doing the right thing. V's path is always paved with corpses. Even in non-lethal games, V's actions will always directly cause other people to die. Why should anyone in Night City listen to V's moral compass when no matter what V does, people get hurt?

[@azazel8700]

​@@MrVirus9898Qualified to talk through experience "You're doing the wrong thing.....did that once, 31 dead and 63 injured, trust me when I say it wasn't a pretty sight"

[@asain3586]

​@@MrVirus9898 Cuz its night city. Whatever shit you do, someone's gonna die. At least V knows how to not kill indiscriminately. David Martinez from edgerunner shows how being a normal dude gonna get fuck 8 days a week from night city. V and David at least abide by a basic rule of kill only for job or self defence. Which most gangs in night city dont

[@spartenkiller456]

She wanted to kill him herself.

[@coltonwilkie241]

Another terrible decision is not visiting Meredith Stout at the No Tell Motel. I did it for the unique weapon that I'll never equip, I swear.

[@Hadgerz]

I equip it to last-hit cyberpsychos without killing them, let those fkers reaaally think about what they've done.

[@telltaleheart839]

Not me, I did it for the one night stand

[@antoniomargallo5317]

The sound effects are really crazy. And the vibration on the controllers too. I mauled a couple moxes with it.

[@dankerbell]

@@antoniomargallo5317 why moxes

[@millo7295]

Because they're probably NPCs who don't fight when they get attacked

[@RogueMandoGaming]

Barry's story actually hit me hard, his only friend who he could talk to was his pet, I use to have a rabbit who i'd talk to and I got really depressed when she died

[@anlumo1]

Tbf, a tortoise is a way better choice, since they can get pretty old.

[@FatherDinny]

@My_pfp_beats_all_dog_breeds.Cats are nothing compared to dogs

[@stormyblackheart7286]

I really tried with Barry I did. And when he killed himself it was like hearing my friend went and took their own life anyway. Was it my fault? Did I say something wrong? I didn't mean for any of this to happen

[@RogueMandoGaming]

@@stormyblackheart7286 you have to go through all dialogue options after visiting the columbarium

[@kirbyis4ever]

​@@stormyblackheart7286Yeah, it's very bleak. When I went to go do a mission and came back to find him dead I was seriously wondering "Did I do something wrong? Could I have talked to him differently? Could I have come back sooner?" All things that I'm sure friends of suicide victims tell themselves. It's so grounded in reality it hurts.

[@erichooper2794]

"oh no claire i couldnt possibly commit a murder" said v 5 minutes after throwing live grenades into a group of gang members idly standing on a street corner.

[@machintosh3008]

And then massacring all of Arasaka tower later on

[@unknown_spy_1984]

​@@machintosh3008 I mean let's be fair. They had it coming for a while

[@millo7295]

Wrong way to think about it

[@madjik1979]

One think I learned about Cyberpunk 2077 early on, is a little empathy goes a long, long way in this game.

[@DPowered2]

It does a good job rewarding it in small and big ways unlike most games. Game developers still struggle to find a way to make compelling choices. Do you want to kick the puppy for evil points or don't for good points isn't the deep philosophical question developers tend to think it is

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

Empathy in this case being "understanding what others are feeling", not "trying to help others". Sometimes people don't have any patience for bs. In those cases a direct answer may be more important.

[@holdencolfield6676]

@@rumplstiltztinkerstein true. some will just tell you not to patronize them

[@madjik1979]

@@rumplstiltztinkerstein CDP did a good job of walking the line between empathy and sympathy. Knowing the difference is half the battle. =)

[@helplmchoking]

I think that's deliberate, Night City is constantly portrayed as heartless, brutal, randomly fatal and totally nihilistic. It seems to cater only to the selfish, aggressive and angry but in the end they all meet harsh endings and doing the "right" thing, thinking of others and showing a bit of humanity is the perfect way to fight back against the inhuman setting. Not that empathy gets anyone happy endings either, given nobody has a good ending in Night City, but checking in on a neighbour is a great mini-rebellion against the city that tells you they don't matter and neither do you

[@dudemetslagroom8065]

the Barry sidequest made me very quickly realize the type of game this was gonna be. And i loved it, these little stories about people simply trying to make it through another day

[@BREAKocean]

the little things make a big difference in feel

[@jsmallzee1590]

I'll be honest, this side quest always ticked me off because I never got the hint I had to go to Andrew's grave to advance the plot and get the cops to talk to him. He always ended up committing suicide and I thought it was dumb, I couldn't do anything to change it. I'm mad that it wasn't more apparent, but I'm definitely gonna save Barry in my next play through now.

[@napalmsavage7717]

The time sensitive bit for checking on Barry hit like a freight train the first time through, being a rather unexpected quest mechanic compared to the majority of others, hell most rpgs even. Felt devastated and only worse when i went back on a second playthrough to learn more and more about his struggle and story. Absolutely amazing quest

[@samuelansin8307]

I did everything right for the Barry quest up until I went to talk to his friends after finding out it was a tortious. I figured Mr. Strong jock type would mock Barry if I told him and thus got Barry killed. I was super bummed.

[@connycontainer9459]

@@samuelansin8307 Exactly what devlopers wanted. And rightfully so, when making a game for a mature audience. Nothing bettter than a good punch in the guts as a reminder that things are really at stake.

[@Lemon1Seed]

@@connycontainer9459 does Barry die either way? or does he end up alive after the quest?

[@connycontainer9459]

@@Lemon1Seed Don't know never played it. I'm on Fallout 4 now and the writing is terrible :)

[@tacotimmer8288]

@@Lemon1Seed you can keep him alive by finding where his friend is buried and visiting the grave

[@ljaquos]

The best part of Johnny pretending to be a noir detective is V just begging for him to shut the fuck up or kill her, whichever he's more willing to do.

[@ljuc]

I actually like that you can screw up so bad it leaves you out of a chunk of the content. It gives a game more replay value.

[@Nerobyrne]

it's also something many devs are afraid of doing, but it's really memorable. Also it means that two people who played the same game will have different stories to share, which is very cool

[@LesoTheGamerboy]

And it's more realistic and immersive when your actions actually have permanent consequences.

[@michaelmiller4105]

Exactly because it means your choices have impact. I hate people that complain about choices not having impact and then get mad because they missed content. Stupid. I do wish in games like that there was a way to skip back to those moments instantly instead of multiple save states but whatevs

[@kurimiaisukurimu]

I'd be ok with it if there was some form of New Game Plus in this game. I'd love to replay the game, but having to find all the dataterms, start from Level 1, and have none of the cyberware and weapons I already bought just turns me off from it so hard.

[@DailyShit.]

But it is still not good game design. Decisions should not just cut out content. They should provide with an alternative version. Obviously it is not always possible when you kill somebody but in some examples it is possible l.

[@Transit_Angst]

The barry one genuinely made me tear up. Being a first responder for a while and dealing with my own demons really connected. Thankfully i got help a while ago, but its so real

[@Acrylescent]

So true. I was a cop and detective for a decade and had to retire early because of serious PTSD. That story line really hit me. I’m very lucky I have my wife who helped me through a lot of it.

[@SaintGhost0794]

The quest with Barry hit hard for me because after years of dealing with PTSD and Depression if it hadn’t been for a friend taking time one night to stop by and say hello I wouldn’t be here right now

[@Jerkasaur]

Glad you’re here❤

[@GumAddic]

Stay happy and enjoy every minute and hour of your life I went through the same thing cause everyone kept dying and I just couldn’t help but think if I should’ve just ended it all I never even got to say goodbye to any of them and I regret so many things that I’ve done and never done

[@Max_Litva-d9zh]

Good health to you. Never give up and always fight for yourself. There will definitely be moments in life that will make you feel better.

[@thebakedchef]

It really was one of the best quests in the game, especially if you can relate. If you need a shoulder to lean on, let me know.

[@Smilomaniac]

First time I played I won the race, but Claire didn't return to the bar, she kept endlessly driving around the city and I'd occasionally run into her on the street. It was somehow way sadder.

[@JORDAN-CHRISTOPHERSPENCER]

no one cares about troons

[@Smilomaniac]

@@JORDAN-CHRISTOPHERSPENCER Too many do.

[@cy-one]

Are you guys just dogwhistling each other or what does "troon" mean?

[@Smilomaniac]

@@cy-one Yes, everything you don't know is a dog whistle.

[@Pigmedog]

​@@cy-one troon is sort of a pseudo slur for transgender people that a lot of (especially right leaning) trans women identify with, i assume the first commenter meant it in the community way and the second in the derogatory way

[@bryanpez2177]

I did the Barry quest the wrong way my first play through by not finding andrews plaque…I was devastated when I saw the yellow tape on his door

[@jaydeleon8094]

the fucking quest completed for me, didn't even know that was a thing despite looking at the various early quests religiously(without a guide at the time) only to later "complete" again once he died.

[@PepicWalrus]

Didn't even know you could complete it wrongly lol.

[@dominikrosenkranz6611]

the quest told me to check up on him again after my first encounter with him, and i really wanted to but somehow couldnt enter his apartment. still dont know if i did sth wrong. same with the mission sinnerman, a trashbin got stuck in the front of the car and i couldnt drive anymore, shortest chase ever...

[@elmercy4968]

I thought. Yeah... was clear from the start. I'm surprised to hear he can actually survive.

[@carodar34]

put the quest not on my main priority and then i saw the yellow badge aswell made me a bit sad

[@dallas2vabeach]

Silverhand's narration during the Pepe quest always makes me laugh. The delivery was spot on🤣

[@froodtube]

In the Blue Moon quest there are actually other fans/stalkers around. If you complete it correctly like in this video, a few days later you get another mail from Blue Moon thanking you. If you single out the wrong stalker it will go through all the motions with you identifying the fan to Blue Moon as her stalker. Blue Moon will pay and thank you for saving her. A few days later that message comes to you, but it is to inform you that Blue Moon was killed by a stalker. You got the wrong one.

[@firefly56embers33]

I didn't know that holy hell

[@psixens7580]

That’s so similar to the plot of that one vampire quest in Novigrad in TW3. I wonder if that was intentional.

[@man1c_Sc0rpio]

I just kept following Moon and accidentally did the aerial takedown on the stalker. Awesome feeling.

[@Hiraetheen]

it's because there is a wrong stalker and a real one, she doesn't get killed if the real one is identifieeeed

[@johnnyboogalo4897]

I killed some dude taking pics of her but yeah killed the real stalker too.That guy taking pics just annoyed me so snapped his neck

[@demonduck1220]

Shooty shooty death race driver dies??????? Oh my goodnessssss, this is evvvillllllllllll. How dare Sampson do exactly what I do every race!!!

[@sgg3586]

I saw a theory online that the inconsistency of Kerry still getting Us Cracks tracks and collaborating with them despite 2 members being dead, is just a sign that they were likely replaced by their record label and some new girls were modded to look/sound like them. Since in the game you can hear on the news about someone cybermodding themself to look identical to a celebrity, and Lizzy (the chromed out & obvious cyberpsycho popstar) had her entire body replaced. So it wouldn't be a stretch that the record label would just shrug at their deaths, replace them quietly, and keep making money regardless.

[@anlumo1]

Kerry has his appearance protected, so nobody can look like him. It's a good assumption that the record label holds the rights to the Us Cracks' likeness.

[@DatAsianGuy]

yeah, Us Cracks is obviously modeled after how Kpop/Jpop bands function and takes it to what it would into in a dystopian cyberpunk setting.@@anlumo1

[@delldor9217]

im gonna take this one step further, A popular theory is that Arasaka has the engrams of the trio, and that they weren't replaced with other girls, but straight up copies down to the engrams.

[@Nabo42]

I actually like V's response to Wakako if you kill Stephenson in Sinnerman.

[@Gaming_GuruX0]

I rarely and I mean rarely think about my next steps in a quest......Sinnerman changed all that. I chose to "Participate" In the live crucifixion of Joshua, I had to turn away when V. Started doing the deed. That in my opinion is great story telling.

[@petrusjnaude7279]

Sinnerman will probably go down in history for me as one of the most memorable quests in an RPG. if for no other reason than how disturbing it ends up being.

[@skorpion7132]

The only two ways how I've dealt with Sinnerman is A) Just kill Joshua straight away under the bridge. B) keep him alive and visit him at the house later on. Then something got asked which made me be like 'yeah no...I'm out and walk away from this'... at which point (to my knowledge) the culmination remained in limbo. After having seen the brief thing about the crucifixion, I'm not sure what I would consider the "good ending" of this particular quest. I'm tempted to say that just killing everyone right under that bridge, making it as quick as possible would be my good ending. Sure, the job didn't go perfect, but I can at least say the job was done. Everything that came afterwards should Joshua live feels like having fallen into a dark rabbit hole where I lose a part of my soul regardless. And no, not thanks to the relic.

[@felipegarcia8954]

I just finished the mission recently, I went along with it because I kept thinking he was meaning "put me on a cross" to be a metaphor or something. Then entered the next room to find the literal meaning and reloaded the game lol

[@silverblade357]

I haven't completed Sinnerman since my first playthrough. V wasn't being paid to help a murderer redeem himself and line coepo pockets. He was paid for wetwork.

[@Vixen1525]

I mean don't forget the side quest with River and his nephew... ​@@petrusjnaude7279

[@KingLeek86]

Let's not forget the Rogue Death ending when you gain ownership of the Afterlife. If you get on Claire's bad side...by the time you come back to the Afterlife as owner, Claire will no longer be there. Presumably quit or V fired her off-screen.

[@Silas-Inservio-Pax]

dude, spoiler alert

[@TheAgent0060]

​@Silas-Inservio-Pax this game is years old. Spoilers can't be a thing with something this old

[@ElBandito]

See, the reason Cyntia (Linda Nguyen) had spine stretching operation is because she likely used to be a shorter Asian woman, judging from her name. Height is something one would wish to change if one is running away from something serious. Not cause of "hunchback reason".

[@SamBram]

Yeah tbf, that makes a lot more sense. The name, the kid looking different. I'd say you're probably right there! (If Linda is Cynthia)

[@RicochetForce]

Bingo. She was made taller, spine strengthened to support the taller body, skin color altered, eye shape changed. along with her face. Sound like she was in some potentially deep shit. And from speaking with Pepe this seems to be the only issue in their marriage (suspected infidelity). She's also expecting too, so things were going fine until the events we took part in.

[@HarukoHoshiko]

oh good, someone beat me to it, fun fact, Nguyen is pronounced Nowen. ~

[@johnyreyes3567]

@@HarukoHoshiko not nowen. The N is silent. Its pronounced "Wen"

[@SamBram]

@@HarukoHoshiko Noted, thank you!

[@echosax45]

I think its interesting that in Polish version of the game, quest "happy together" is called "gdy patrzysz w otchłań" (when you stare at the void) which, imo is more fitting

[@Anonymous37980]

Happy Together is a reference to a song by The Turtles, a reference to Andrew the Tortoise. But yeah, the Polish name is a bit more fitting.

[@echosax45]

@@Anonymous37980 Oh, didnt know that. That cool

[@Kaylakaze]

During that mission, V does make a remark about staring into the abyss.

[@reptiloidmitglied2930]

​@@KaylakazeIt was Johnny 😉

[@Kaylakaze]

@@reptiloidmitglied2930 Oh, ok. Not that I remember what this is about.

[@Raziel312]

The final kick to the balls in the Joshua quest line comes later when you're watching TV. The host of the show Chip'n In absolutely rips into the brain dance Joshua gave his life for. She gives it a 3 out of 10 calling it "overwrought". Joshua hoped it would be his redemption. A counterweight to the soullessness of modern society by reminding people of the suffering Christ endured out of love. Instead, the jaded critics made it 2077's "Big Momma's House." A very Cyberpunk 2077 outcome. You don't save the world, you just try to survive it.

[@thecursed01]

Could be worse. Could have gotten good critics. Look at movie and game critics over the last years. If they praise a game, it's probably shit and they got bribed.

[@dr.krimson1010]

I'm sure the BD will get a cult following. It did the same for that one choom just over 2000 years ago.

[@Kristers_K]

@@dr.krimson1010 A cult that lasts even to this day in real life, sadly. People still believe Jesus was a divine being and will return one day. heh the human brain just loves superstition and give ''magical'' meaning/purpose to things they don't understand.

[@cipher5761]

@@Kristers_K Sheesh bit edgy there you two, try not to play the violin with your wrist there

[@TheShadowOfHumanity]

​@1992Wowcrazy 200 bucks says you believe in something far dumber than religion. Im an atheist and I find the "lol religion is a cult" shit to be pathetic when those same people will unironically base their worldviews off far less rational shit.

[@krisrobin8847]

Nice to see this channel growing and good to see that cyberpunk 2077 is alive and well, getting the recognition it ultimately deserves.

[@VVen0m]

I'm surprised how many people don't even know that if you choose all the blue dialogue options you can make it so that Barry doesn't die, meanwhile I didn't know you could make it so that he dies lol

[@Paragon231]

Because 99% of the time the blue lines do absolutely nothing.

[@Safewoood]

​@@Paragon231 they are interesting tho how can you skip them?

[@Demortra]

@@Paragon231 Most of the time they give you lore or info, sometimes they give you more options on how to finish a job.

[@VVen0m]

@@Paragon231 They are interesting, often funny, and I'm pretty sure conversation with Barry is not the only one that can change outcomes based on if you skip them or not

[@Paragon231]

@@Safewoood Because they don't change the outcome. I only care about results.

[@Gobboh]

I think the quest surrounding Pepe is pretty horrible. If you chose to tell Pepe that Cynthia is going to explain everything the two break up and Cynthia blames you. Why? Why does Cynthia need a third party to just be honest to her husband? Instead of some stranger "fixing" their relationship I thought the best way would be if they were to work it out themselves - which is totally possible. However, judging by Pepe's response to you later she did not tell him anything and he still thinks she cheated on him... Great job, Cynthia.

[@rimworldmoment]

I think it's pretty realistic. People are complicated like that.

[@calvintyler9281]

Uh did you not realize you fucked up when PEPE also got mad at you for not telling him? How did you possibly think that was a good idea?

[@ApatheticNomad]

Well, some issues with that; if you're running g from someone so dangerous that you have to modify your body and name until you're unrecognisable, not only are you going to keep your past life buried 100ft down but also anyone that knows your secret is both at risk and a liability; hard to just come out and explain, and that's not considering that if your partner doesn't take it well then you could lose your family. Cynthia is a human, fear, selfishness, etc. We all have skeletons we'd rather forget and keep to ourselves, being backed into a corner doesn't make it easy to explain and emotions are the enemy of common sense. The second point is that V isn't some stranger, are you forgetting that you spent so long with Jackie and his family that not only are you close with his family but his mother treats you like her own child, iirc that's actually the whole reason he gives you the gig in the first place

[@eldibs]

The time limit on Happy Together is, thankfully, quite generous. I've never seen the bad outcome, even after putting it off many times. But my first time doing The Beast in Me, I let Claire execute him, because the way she described Dean's death, it sounded like Samson had intentionally slowed down so he could ram Dean. I hadn't considered that her memory of the event might be biased and therefore not lined up with reality.

[@clarencewalters338]

I don't even care, honestly. I only finished the race because Claire lied to me and agreed that there'd be no executions. If she hired me to assassinate Sampson from the start and was honest and told me the races were a prerequisite to get him vulnerable I'd agree readily.

[@SekiberiusWelkesh]

On the flip side, I've never seen the good outcome.

[@Sheed96]

​@@clarencewalters338 facts

[@harrisondarenberg9686]

I killed Sampson. Fuck corpos.

[@Freekymoho]

I got the bad outcome once because i opted not to exhaust all of the dialogue options with barry (some of the preview text seemed really rude)

[@Novtis]

That feeling when you made 3 terrible decisions, and didn't even play 2 other missions

[@somejose2156]

about the us cracks mission, i think killing the stalker is the better option since v is going to die no matter what and blue moon wont be able to call them again... its kind of ruthless but letting her live is way too risky.

[@ApatheticNomad]

You could look at it that way, and you could also look at it from the perspective of mercy being so common that it's basically just another profession in night city so with someone with Eddie's to burn like Is Cracks, blue moon won't be out of options just because V isn't around

[@drayquan23]

6:23 - love how you use "Objectively" and "in my opinion" in the same sentence (about the same thing) ..lol 🤣 Good vid though, lots of helpful info on some of these quests, thx!

[@andrewhegstrom2187]

I want to say that Blue Moon is a reference to a fantastic anime known as Perfect Blue, a great psychological thriller about a stalker done by Satoshi Kon (also known for another great and trippy anime, Paprika). In fact a lot of media has paid homage (or blatantly ripped off, take your pick) Perfect Blue, I highly recommend it.

[@heyguyslolGAMING]

8:40 Speaking of not checking in on ppl. Judy who was staying at my apt, left me for another woman. She left me a text saying something to the effect that I never listen to her; tbh I don't really know I wasn't paying much attention cuz I was busy helping fixers. Then I came and watched this vid and realized I also forgot about Barry. I should go check on him; its been like 5 weeks.

[@storyfirstgamingyt]

Here's my honest tip: think of the characters as real people and apply real world empathy to your decisions. It's not hard to get good endings, just be a good person ❤

[@ericwise7]

Most rpgs I play how I would handle things in real life. Listening and empathy, and appropriate vengance. Even when I try to do another play through with I'll intentions, it never settles right with me. I can't begin to tell you how many times I played kotor and just wanted to be a sith, and just ended up being a gray jedi..or even with mass effect, alpha protocol, deus ex, witcher.."you're a bad guy, buy you're not a bad guy"

[@skorpion7132]

@scarletgoat173 Talk about lame. Also,whats even more lame is judging someone else's playthrough based on their decision in a VIDEOGAME.

[@ericwise7]

@scarletgoat173 you do know what rpg stands for, yeah? You should probably stick roblox if that's how you play, kiddo

[@Neoh53]

Wtf are you talking about. You are killing half of the city by yourself while being build like a terminator. Why would you be "more empathic" with the character that has dialogues ? It's hypocrit to think as yourself as a good guy in this case...

[@geekinoffamolly8230]

That’s a pretty gay ass tip since most people play video games to play as characters they never could b in reallife. Stop that gay ass soft talk

[@Azrael2812]

I love the quest for the bartender, Johnnys narrations crack me up every time. One of the quests that made me like the character a lot more.

[@Acrylescent]

Huge mistake in my first playthrough was not doing all the side stuff to flesh out Johnny. I went through the whole game thinking he was a complete parasite and was really confused about his compassion at the end. I chose to suicide it so no one else would die. I was also playing the Xbox One release so I was kind of over giving the game time, but still. I always do the side quests now and love Johnny as a character.

[@snausages43]

I won the race. I figured she’d learn that revenge wasn’t the answer or something, but nope, she was pissed and that was it for work with her.

[@SayMy_User_Name]

Cyberpunk really excels at allowing the player to be a complete POS to everyone around them if they want, while ar the same time still making some of those POS choices be justifiable in a certain perspectivelol I absolutely love it for that..

[@melchior7346]

Yeah I can see why a lot of people would knowingly take some of these choices, or just get these consequences accidentally by playing the character they want to be, and while you might be punished by other characters for making choices they don’t like, it doesn’t exactly feel like the game is punishing you for making them.

[@philipsalama8083]

I don't know, I feel with the way V's dialogue is written, it's out of character for them to do a lot of the more POS stuff the game lets you do.

[@jonarosen]

Hell of a conglomeration of info there. Absolutely fantastic. I definitely didn't get all of those with the better ends, may need to do another playthrough. New subscriber

[@thechatteringclown]

Didn't even realize she was the stalker first time around tbh. Just checked my koroshis, as you said, saw something light up in red and immediately brain blasted them. Didn't even know I'd taken care of the stalker until V commented on it and I found the photos on her.

[@TheDudeSmashTrash]

The biggest mistake I made in my playthough is letting Gary the Prophet die. I was in Misty's shop and could hear some commotion outside. I didn't want to leave in the middle of my tarot reading or whatever I was doing, but when I went outside afterwards to see what'd happened, he was lying there dead; I must've triggered the fight with the nomads by being nearby. Unfortunately I didn't know about the payoff to his quest until much much later, so I couldn't reload an autosave or anything

[@chaddoyle7719]

To be fair to Claire v has killed hundreds if not thousands of people I’d be kinda pissed if a mass murder grew a Conscience for my revenge

[@unneomexaenlacocina9380]

On my first play trough i killed nobody

[@Ozymandias2x]

Nice false equivalency.

[@cy-one]

There's also a difference between *being hired for wetwork* which necessitates you agreeing with doing the hit and getting hired as a driver for a few races and then suddenly getting re-tasked unilaterally as a hit-man.

[@kurojima]

The most impressive thing about these Quests is that so many have little references later in the game, depending on the outcome - even if its just some news stories like in the Kerry/UsCracks Case - it shows so much care from the devs. Compare that to the likes of your typical Bethesda game, where nothing you do matters at all ever

[@markimarc009]

I think the number one thing that upsets me with Claire’s quest line endgame (if you finish the race) is that she treats you nuetral or better during the Sun ending. I think it could’ve been a nice touch if the afterlife had a new drink slinger, and/or a note of Claire’s resign.

[@skorpion7132]

Or have her toss a drink in your face and scoff you

[@calvintyler9281]

Uh I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be gone. Implying once v takes rouges place she either quits or v fires her.

[@Antz3The3rd]

I did the Barry quest and did the "respectful" dialog but he still died. I did not know there was a lot more to it. This is why I hate it when they expect you to figure it out while being unaware of the tiny details they put in to help with other side missions.

[@ApatheticNomad]

That's quite literally the best part of these games; if you were spoon-fed hints on how to get the good endings to things then you'd never make mistakes, never have to live with consequences or make difficult choices; especially in cyberpunk, the raw and gut wrenching mistakes/consequences of not saying or doing the right thing is the entire atmosphere of night city, it's unforgiving and it swallow people whole. Starting a second playthtough and realising that you could've saved someone who died last time should really sell the sheer stakes of choices and get you invested, not angry. Besides, if you're really against consequences, then save everytime you sense a choice to be made and change the outcome if you don't like it/want to know the alternative

[@Gearparadummies]

Curious how Kerry Eurodyne was first written by R.Talsorian back in 1990 as the ultimate corporate musician and CDPR turned him into an edgy version of George Michael. One of the best moments of the game for me was reuniting Samurai for a last one-time gig.

[@nekoali2]

Johnny really comes off as a lot more reactionary and assholish than I got from reading R. Talsorian's stories about him.

[@Gearparadummies]

@@nekoali2 In the OG game, Johnny comes out as an idealist. He's got his quirks, sure but he's basically political about all the Corpo-government duality that has driven the US into the ground. But unlike CDPR's version, Johnny does take personal responsibility for his actions and genuinely cares for people, even if he actually hurt Rogue by leaving her for Alt. Basically, Johnny singlehandedly turned Rogue into the hardbitten b*tch we come across in CP2077. But unlike CDPR's Johnny, the OG version owned this move as a shitty one from the beginning.

[@Gearparadummies]

@scarletgoat173 OG Johnny hates Arasaka's guts. He only teamed up with Militech in 2023 for the chance of nuking Arasaka's HQ in Night City. I should know, I have all Cyberpunk 2020 TTRPG sourcebooks. Started playing in 1991.

[@GSOF_Oven]

Just completed my third playthrough (did NOMAD & female V), and for whatever reason from the prior two as male & other paths, I never got to the Kerry Eurodyne missions until this time around. Probably some of my favorite missions that I've done for sure too. Love this game and its story and how I'm still getting a lot out of it after sinking so many hours in it.

[@inuian]

I love the other line Johnny has while sitting on the police car of "if you dont do this, im never talking to you again" lol

[@dredgen0268]

It took me so long to get the dialogue choices right to get the Cthulhu for free.

[@r1pbuck]

Worth what you pay for it, IMO. What's with the no stash access?

[@fhlostonparaphrase]

Its not that hard, just question Claire's version of events and don't acquiescence to her murdering someone.

[@emartinez1320]

Not sure if it's because of the update but to stop Claire from killing Sampson, I had to pick "My priority's winning" and then I stayed in front of Sampson during the race. When I picked I'll still drive but only to win, Claire would say "but I don't give a sht" and then shoot him anyways. Thanks for the video!

[@ProcyonDei]

First playthrough doing the Joshua Stephenson quest, just kept questioning his beliefs while making the corpo reveal her true intentions, and at the very end just refuse to be there for him (which apparently made Joshua have a nervous breakdown during the recording); The corpos wanted a highly controversial yet profitable BD of "deeper" meaning, and all they got instead was a cheap BD of some poor guy getting tortured no different than the stuff sold in the Kabuki back alley...

[@jeremiahwilting5056]

Barry's quest was probably the first quest I took super seriously in my first playthrough. Mainly cuz at one point in my life I was at a similar place and could see the signs.

[@spiegeltn]

I was too, everyone has their inner battle with "the shadows". It passes eventually just gotta HODL.

[@GenerationWest]

After neighbor mission, I studied the Cyberpunk wiki like I was back in highschool and college all over again.

[@clumoxcort]

you know what i think is an absolute beautiful thing. i have never played cyberpunk until i heard about update 2,0 and im glad i never looked into anything cyberpunk related so everything is believe it or not very fresh for me. and i wanted to specifically look for a video like this one here to see if some of the decisions ive made thus far have been reasonable. im a veteran myself and share similar feelings with berry so i immediately felt pulled to the quest. it really did feel right to connect with him after getting into the apartment just kinda knew what to say and hell im very glad with my outcome.

[@JosieJOK]

I’ve been playing these types of games for too long-I never give up a chance to continue a quest line, even when skipping further content is a better roleplay choice! Also, Sam, you missed a little bit of an Easter egg when Spector (as in Phil?) Cheng quotes the song “Walking in Memphis.”

[@r1pbuck]

Ha! I got the song reference, but forgot about Phil Spector!

[@petrusjnaude7279]

Same for me. Though the first time I played Sinnerman and V gets chased off after accompanying Joshua part of the way had me worried that I had screwed up.

[@JoshuaEFinley]

There are so many ways to play it's crazy. If you mainly kill only murderers, killers, assassins, and human traffickers and only knock out lesser criminals you'll find more non violent crime and the surviving gangs will be passive toward you. You have to be indiscriminate even with quest related characters. Seeing gangs sneak around instead of standing around dead bodies all of the time is neat. There is also unique dialogue once you remove so many violent criminals. I just hack everyone unconscious then scan and kill the murderers. If you kill every criminal then gang wars erupt everywhere. The order you take out gangs matters on the gang wars.

[@PogoZilla]

I remember when I first did the Barry quest I forgot to do it because i was overwhelmed with everything else I had to do and when I saw what happened it broke me in a way I don't think anything else ever has.

[@BlackWolf41529]

The Beast in Me story was driving me crazy as I look through guides to get Sampson to live. Apparently you have to go with what you pick and in messages “Are you sure killing Sampson will help?” will help getting both cars.

[@twinarcher8123]

In the Claire mission I did get her to spare that guy but it didn't stop me from beginning to hate Claire. Also didn't like her truck, the other guys car was cool though.

[@liamking16]

i refuse to help clare with that, i just win the race and the dumb broad can keep her slow troontruck

[@Leonson1]

I swear, as soon as she told me to work on my driving skills after getting first place. Too bad there wasn't a real option to betray her.

[@Ashen75]

Yeah the cthulhu is such a great car compared to Claire's bouncy castle truck that can't maneuver for shit.

[@calvintyler9281]

​@@Leonson1 and if you do that rouge hates you and you're locked out of all her stuff🤣

[@eepersneepers7872]

what a stupid character. glad i used the dollar store buggati and completely blew by any chance of him getting revenge

[@ilaril]

I never play the sinnerman. I was paid to be there, the guy wanted him dead and the cop shot him. My V gives as many craps of religion as I do, so down they go, eddies to me and my life goes on by being the sole survivor of the job. That's how the cookie crumbles sometimes.

[@moonlight6713]

Yo so the racing arc with Claire, I was fully immersed into playing my V. I felt that Claire basically hired me to do a job, be a gun for hire, it didn't feel like she thought of me as a friend so I didn't reciprocate the feeling and just thought of her as a client and didn't try to stop her just did what she told me to do nothing more nothing less. In the end, it was just a gig for that V.

[@KriminalKat]

Agreed. Plus Sampson is a corporat and the only good corpo is a dead corpo.

[@fogheaded3866]

She clearly thought of you closely that's why she brought you along to do something so personal she literally told no one else about what ya'll were doing I don't get that thought process at all

[@HansDester]

​@fogheaded3866 I don't get yours. Who goes along telling everyone that they are about to kill someone? At the same time, if that's how you feel like playing the game then so be it. Who are you to judge what someone does in a fictional game that has no impact on your life. It's a game part it the way you do. I still don't get why people try to insert themselves into these games instead of walking in another's shoes, like it's meant to be.

[@fogheaded3866]

@HodgeLLCool tf are you talking about in night city you can literally just walk up and murder someone literally everyone does that man and yes you are supposed to get immersed in a game everyone would say you're a bad dude if you join the legion in fnv

[@moonlight6713]

@fogheaded3866 I just felt that she knew what V was/is capable, and when she saw that guy, she wanted to kill him with my help. You say personal, I saw it as a transaction and was a professional merc.

[@Guitar4life99]

I lost a friend of many years a while back, Barry's quest is an extremely strong reminder of how important it is to reach out to people. Mental health can be very difficult to deal with if you are struggling. If you are someone who is struggling, I beg you to reach out to a close friend or family member and open up, you will be surprised how much easier it will be to talk about after breaking the ice, so to speak. Please, I know how difficult it can be, but the alternatives are much worse, life is fragile, and you matter.

[@ruchirlimaye]

In the Barry's mission If you kill both police officer just after meeting Barry. U can meet him again inn Dino's bar... Partying since he got promoted in place of that officer That thing I found by mistake (pressed F while having convo and melee weapon in hand )

[@tropicalstorm24]

Wait seriously? I thought that was Aaron McCarlson.

[@runespar]

@@tropicalstorm24 It is. Barry is on indefinite leave during Happy Together.

[@rickoftherick4610]

idk how I messed it up that barry committed suicide, twice on two different saves and characters.

[@ruchirlimaye]

@@tropicalstorm24 oh yeah sorry now got it

[@ruchirlimaye]

@@tropicalstorm24 thanks for clarification, although they both look same!

[@Dealerofdeath1998]

Love watching your videos always shows me the best possible outcome for cyberpunk quests as im doing my first playthrough as i dont wanna mess em up so thanks sam bram very informative 💯. This really is a diverse game .

[@ernestoperez8240]

Hey Sam I don't know if you already find this but in the Bad lands there is a hostile place close to the Motel Las Palapas it's some kind of old store the place is guarded by two automatic torrets and also there is Land mines If you enter the place you will find something pretty disturbing I am playing cyberpunk right now and find this and omg... They suffer a cruel and slow death The moment I open the door to the basement I just feel terrible

[@SamBram]

I found that the other day now you mention it. Not a scanner hustle or anything, totally unmarked. The guy has abducted them and trapped them in the basement. Very disturbing! I think it might be a reference to something, I'll do some more research. Thanks for reminding me! I'd love to explore it more in a future video! 😁

[@heathertimmons8382]

10 Cloverfield Lane (movie)

[@DILLIGAFgaming-c8t]

The Barry quest probably hit hardest for me personally. As someone who tried to... unalive myself, and was unlucky enough to survive, I know all too well how it feels to be that far into the feeling of hopelessness and have no one give a shit, or even have people openly mock you for it.

[@craig2196]

I love how people always complain that video games now a days don't have depth And hidden content. Those same people called Cyberpunk bland and generic for not having depth and an interesting world because they themselves didn't look deep enough lol.

[@Ginkami]

Joshua's sidequest is genuinely the closest a game has ever gotten to make me feel genuinely ill

[@GOPNiK-47]

Really appreciate your effort on explaining these quests since they are the most confusing in the game.

[@Oreo2v]

Kerry quest are awkward the whole time I know the man’s trynna hit lol. Especially in the scene where you’re destroying the boat he was up on my face. Like I’m with Panam you feel me ? 😂😂😂

[@lucasrezende7214]

So, how does Claire treats you in the "Sun" ending if you finish the race? She usually chats you up and pours you a drink before you leave for the station.

[@ajthewhitetiger8133]

she acts the same in that ending regardless of your choices.

[@lucasrezende7214]

@@ajthewhitetiger8133 damn :c

[@skorpion7132]

Okay, learned something here... there's always one more quest. I've done "the right thing" on the first instance, but never got to do any of the followups. Also with the Claire questline, I find this a very interesting morality question. For all intends and purpose Claire is your friend albeit with some dark history and intentions herself. However, she does reveal after the third race what she intends to do, so how much you consider this being her (ab)using you for her own gain is also a bit of a matter of perspective. I can definately believe that she wouldn't 'hire' you and straight up say she's intending on just having the guy killed. It would've probably be easier if she'd done that through the proper channels like a fixer and merc... and she's in contact with both all the damn time. I'll assume here that it wasn't specifically meant that she wanted to kill the guy at point blanc, just that she wielded the gun that was gonna kill the guy, and it stands to reason the race was the only way to get close enough to do it. Which leads me to believe this is truly a proper revenge where she wants to do it herself. Which is why she wants you to be the driver, so she can be the gunner. At the end of the day the question becomes: Do I stand by my friend and am complicit to a killing (or murder) I have otherwise no stakes in, or do I prevent a friend from making an arguably ill-thought-through choice that would result in both regret (on her side) and the potential death of a mostly innocent man.

[@fabianheinrich2812]

i have to say, allready the first quest , your infos are wrong. winning all races up to the point when she tells us , that she wants revenge, we can be the friendly and forthcoming type and tell her that we will only race to win. Then later we do not follow up but instead win and finish the race. Claire will be Claire , bitching around a bit , but eventually she will say she is sorry because she lured into something you never wanted. after a final talk , which i believe comes a day later or so , she will not only say sorry and we of course will be forthcoming again , and this way we will get both , the beast and the quadra and we also won the races and are a winner through and through. While you can, reading the messages in her computer is not even necessary for this ending.

[@chanter3978]

The instant Bill got shot I started blasting. Guess I’ll have to do that quest line next playthrough.

[@CaneMcKeyton]

I always miss the Barry one and I always kick myself for forgetting about it

[@BETRvids]

I didn't know you could actually save Barry. It never occurred to me to check the graveyard for information about him. I always figured no matter what you said or did, he was destined for the chopping block. I actually just finished doing this quest on another playthrough, and I'm sure by the time I get back to my apartment now, it will be the same ending it has always been.

[@МаринаКошіль]

you just slaughtered a whole generation of barrys

[@chrismatteson1312]

Curious about something. Mainly the ending where you run the Afterlife. Does finishing the race change how Claire acts towards you in the ending?

[@paragonyoshi4237]

From what I know, there are no differences.

[@bahlor]

Claire is her happy self if you run the Afterlife, and she also doesnt treat Johnny in V's body badly if you win the race before you let Johnny have his night on the town.

[@chrismatteson1312]

@@paragonyoshi4237 Yuck. That’s unfortunate. I appreciate the answer.

[@chrismatteson1312]

@@bahlor I can forgive that oversight I suppose. With all the damage CDPR fixed since launch, I can forget that this one decision branch doesn’t continue into the ending. Also, thank you for the answer.

[@bahlor]

@@chrismatteson1312 Oh absolutely forgive it, I LOVE the game I have over 700 hours into it, I was just pointing it out as you asked the question.

[@rebekahm6672]

I love that by exploring more we find different options for what to do and the game doesn’t outright give you two options. For example to save Barry I never imagined we had to find out about his turtle. I thought it was inevitable for him to die to show how difficult living in night city is, but it’s deeper than that.

[@studiodevilry8412]

23:33 Imagine if it was more than Kerry just being mad and he breaks up with you, locking you out of future missions with him. I think he's the only romance/friendship options you can't lose permanently, you can betray Panam , Judy and get River killed, I don't know if they're any game changing consequences for abandoning him during the side quests "Rebel! Rebel!" and "I Don't Wanna Hear It". If I'm wrong, let me know.

[@AdarColussi]

Pepe's quest is one of my favorites! between Johnny's narration, to the "feel good" ending, I just love how this one plays out in this dark city.

[@HEKVT]

Holy crap I had no idea the Joshua and Cynthia quests even existed in the game. Time to replay it all before Phantom Liberty.

[@chamoo232]

At this point it's better to wait for it. The 1.7 patch will change a lot of stuff in the game. Vehicle combat, new cops system where they don't appear from thin air and a lot more stuff. Even the base game will feel brand new once the patch drop.

[@dustojnikhummer]

​@@chamoo232 It won't change base game

[@chamoo232]

@@dustojnikhummer The dev said "These changes will take effect following the next update to the base game, no earlier than 90 days, and also apply to Phantom Liberty". So yes a lot of it is for the base game. Revamped skill tree. Cyberwear stuff and more. Patch 1.7 is for the base game.

[@puggersftw]

For Barry i remember seeing the cops a few times outside, before finally deciding to do the quest, I told him his friends care and did everything right. It's a really nice quest. The Joshua one was also really sad, each nail to the cross was hard to see. Pepe's quest was a very interesting one to experience. I told Pepe, I was so happy that thing worked out between them. I listened to USCrack, I loved how it turned out, I also did the Blue moon one which somehow worked out.

[@Chokymilk.]

10:58 I forgot about Barry and they died when I came to check them welp

[@johnex2154]

Im really confused about number 3. Do I stop following the cop car or do follow the cop car and get to the bridge but then don't kill him? Does failing the mission by not following the car still give the crucifiction storyline?

[@knaz7468]

Man, I did a whole playthrough and never saw half of these side quests. Had no idea there were so many other things to do. I was thinking of doing another playthrough before the DLC.

[@jimmaurer8361]

Some of these were "gigs" given from Fixers (light blue squares on map) so if you didn't clear your map you're missing out on a ton of missions

[@yeah1tstodd710]

In my first play through I failed Barry. One of the few missions I’ve cried because of.

[@tymemaster]

I dunno for one playthrough I didnt let claire kill him, but I also can see how for the storyline clairekilling him makes sense

[@zhengwenyu1587]

Automatic Love: Not talking to the dolls, or saying the safe word too early. Talking to the dolls is probably one of the best moments of the quest as it explores how V is feeling ever since they failed the Heist and lost Jackie.

[@demonhoopa]

The only “bad” decisions in role play are those that don’t match your character’s alignment/morality

[@TheRealKingDedede]

“You shouldn’t kill Sampson unjustifiably” Me, who went out of my way to blow the head off some random npc who brake checked me: 👀

[@Duratiok]

I failed the stalker mission and blue moon died… but then in the credits for (don’t fear) the reaper, Kerry says he’s going on tour.. THEY WERE REPLACED BY ROBOTS I TELL YOU, THEY NEVER DIED, THEY BEEN ROBOTS GONKS, NO SOUL I TELL YA LISTEN TO ME

[@blackhand9581]

#1, I let claire pull the trigger for two reasons: Its on her and I'm just the driver. #2, Pretty easy to check up on your neighbor. #3, Killed Joshua, was hired to anyway #4, No moral conundrums so I just told what I saw and told him to stay together #5, Killed the Stalker. Was hired to anyway.

[@FrankJaeger803]

It was kinda funny after intentionally making the bad decision with Claire and the races. I walked into afterlife, she refuses to serve me. But when I leave she goes back to normal mode.

[@Jila_Tana]

How could you sit through that disaster with Joshua. The moment I landed in the first home where Joshua wanted to apologize to the family of someone he killed and that woman lost it, I decided that was not for me. Quit. Next quest.

[@nappa1381]

The worst part about Barry is that saving him is locked behind a body check in his dialogue. Since I was playing a primarily stealthy character my body stat was too low to save him, even though I’d done everything else right.

[@Anigeek1246]

In the “Sinnerman” Questline, you can get a secret phone call with Rachel if you try to talk Joshua out of it (throughout the whole quest line) and if you hesitate while hammering the nails, Rachel will call you after the quest and go on about how V ruined the BD and angrily pays you your eddies.

[@jackbassdrop9412]

Honestly after hearing Claire whine after not being able to kill that guy made the decision so much sweeter. Something about her voice in that moment really ticked me off😂

[@blair-alternaterealitiesst4295]

Just a note on the Barry quest - when you talk to Barry in his apartment, you *have* to make sure to ask how Andrew died. This is the only way you will get the optional to go see where Andrews ashes are, and thus have a chance to save Barry.

[@christopherfrawley2560]

Did you just use toxic masculinity??....yeaaah I'm out.

[@destinycox458]

Good ur the type of person being talked about

[@alexwinfield9540]

No need to announce your exit

[@christopherfrawley2560]

That's for keeping me on your minds. But it's still trash, just like your ideology.🤣

[@marcheryanrou6772]

Regarding the NCPD officer and Bill, you can't kill the officer at all until the scripted event is finished. I had the Sandevistan with Maxed out heat sinks. The most you can reduce the officer's health to before the scripted event ends is 1HP. I unloaded everything I had into that guy and once he hits 1Hp, he just stops taking damage.

[@GrandBurgerPT]

Good video bro! Your search for the max info about sides quests and the way u could choose ur path is very helpfull. Line of stories for theese quests are very interesting imo. Keep it up.