Top 5 Toughest Decisions in Cyberpunk 2077

[@TheSeriousSamurai]

Getting the voodoo boys fried was the best redemption we could get after what happened to Evelyn aswell as Jackie.

[@phx24]

aswell as tbug. Fuck the Voodoo Boys

[@jovedo27]

What did they do to Jackie?

[@TheSeriousSamurai]

@@jovedo27 it was only because of them we got to do the Heist which got Jacky killed

[@MirukuESO]

​@@TheSeriousSamuraiSome serious mental gymnastics there bud.

[@Lightna]

​@MirukuESO How the fuck is it mental gymnastics? Its basic cause and effect, gonk for brains. VDB wanted to breach the Blackwall and found out Evelyn had direct access to the heir of Arasaka. VDB hires Evelyn to get it which in turn Evelyn talks to Dex DeShawn to get a crew to pull off the heist, T Bug, Jackie, and V. The events of the game would not have rolled out the way they did if VDB didn't hire Evelyn.

[@yungblink]

Choosing between Mommy Stout and Maelstrom is the easiest choice in the game tbh😂

[@ryanjonsson]

Fax, especially after the monk mission where maelstrom forced em to get cyberwear

[@186bingo]

Truth

[@hellboy6661234]

She gave me a nice reward haha

[@DeadCal]

I do like Dum Dum, but Royce is a sadist and a rapist so he gets a bullet to the brain every time. That and V gets to keep the 10K Meredith gives you if you shoot Royce during negotiations. Win win.

[@farendiil]

I like my Doom Doom too much. I also have a legendary Babaroga, which makes it so broken.

[@Ortez02]

Betraying the voodoos is the easiest decision in the game. Justice for Evelyn.

[@muggy5879]

God I was such a ignorant fool during this questline and I had a hard time putting the pieces together only realizing they killed Evelyn after I let them walk free ffs 😂

[@dallas2vabeach]

Yes agreed and also Placide is such an enormous prick I wanted nothing more than to dice his ass up with my mantis blades 😂😂😂😂

[@lucaleone4331]

Betraying isn't even what it should be called. But I felt the same way. I kept thinking they'd warm up to me and respect me, that when I finally got out after seeing Alt, I accidentally selected pull weapon option took them down on my way out not regretting it. I want to definitly fry them in my next playthrough bc it's a more fitting end.

[@elenhin]

Truth! Voodoo boys are gross.

[@kronoscamron7412]

true. F VDBs and F scavs and claws

[@GummeeHater01]

I sometimes struggle with the morailty in Judys quest. Then I remember which option leads to more dead tiger claws and the issue goes away. The only good claw is a dead claw

[@joshuahowell7637]

yes, I kill the hell out of those guys my V Is like an unofficial Mox.

[@fish_and-chips]

V: does job for Wakako, a TC fixer Also V: kills several TC to and from any location in Westbrook.

[@joshuahowell7637]

@@fish_and-chips from the wiki Despite her close ties to the gang, she takes a coldly pragmatic view when its members are assassinated by Mercs, believing that only the stupid and greedy would fall to such an ignominious fate. I betrayed them during the Gig: Olive Branch she was ok with it because she still got paid lol.

[@Crackheadcentral2188]

Oh there’s another good one… One in chains, being the slaves for the dolls they abused

[@flare3000]

​@@fish_and-chipsthe only thing Wako is aligned with is money

[@misterkirikou]

To be honest i didnt consider which legendary i would get for the all foods quest . Royce and the maelstroms are psychos who didnt hold their end of the deal , easy choice . And for the voodoo boys it's kind of an easy choice too , they try to use and kill you and their plan is to cause an apocalypse by breaching the wall , the netwatch guy is reasonable and relatively trustworthy so again easy choice .

[@waldiotm98]

Yeah but it’s more enjoyable killing the voodoo boys by my own hand. Ever since losing the opportunity to kill Dex I had to get my get back

[@Blowfeld20k]

Apocalypse ?? .... NAH not even close, but am not surprised you come to this assumption if your knowledge of TVB is based on the 'puter game alone. TVB's actual aims are significantly weirder and much more transformative than that.

[@DAVELAAR666]

Disjt wvwn k ow but woukda picked doon doom not chaow

[@7thsealord888]

The Voodoo Boys deserve everything they get. Very basically, their plan is to suck up to the Blackwall AIs; then throw the rest of humanity (including THEIR OWN PEOPLE) under a bus. F### those guys. Netwatch aren't the nicest people around, but they are about as upfront as one could reasonably expect corpo-types to be. And they are working to PROTECT humanity (including themselves, to be sure) from said AIs.

[@thelegosmithy161]

I only chose voodoo boys since I knew I was low on everything after fighting Sasquatch

[@chrismatteson1312]

I tried to play this game without looking ahead at my decisions, but after finding out what I did to Jackie by sending him to Vic, I’m now obsessed with looking ahead at my choices.

[@chrisferguson8145]

Bro the was the once choice that didn’t even make sense

[@chrismatteson1312]

@@chrisferguson8145 Sending him to our ripperdoc? The ripperdoc who has Jackie’s girlfriend as a secretary? It makes a ton of sense. It made more sense than having an AI cab drive his dead body to his moms house with no context.

[@lostspellcheck8584]

Seriously, first playthrough I thought "yeah the medical professional makes more sense than his heartbroken mother"

[@stefpru121]

Rationally speaking, it would have made perfect sense to send his body to Vic’s if he were at least barely alive. Sending it to the mother makes the most sense regardless of context. She knew exactly what type of business Jackie was handling, and the possibility of him turning up dead one day wasn’t far fetched. This way he is surrounded by family and gets a proper send-off.

[@chrismatteson1312]

@@stefpru121 Vic’s is as good as family. Literally the only person in Night City willing to do ripper work for us on credit. Jackie’s girlfriend works for him. They have the tools to help him if anything is possible. It just made more sense to me to send him somewhere temporary so that V could bring him to his mother personally with an explanation and kind word after dealing with Dex. Not saying you are wrong, you’re obviously completely right, just saying that I read a lot more sense into Vic’s at the time.

[@MrManu2468]

Funny thing is, the second Placide plugs you in, an upload window opens for a split second, quickly replaced by the basic Biomon screen. I'ts very subtle and happens in a split second, but it is noticable, and when I heard the Netwatch agent out, I already knew he was right.

[@clarencewalters338]

Johnny is right about the choice when it comes to him vs V keeping the body. V has been fighting the entire game to avoid it, that no matter how much they like each other and how distinctly altered on every level both mentally, physically, and even genetically; that Johnny is an intruder in his body placed there by fucked up Arasaka tech.

[@iwanttopotato8848]

I don't think that there truly is a right choice here, except the Arasaka thing which is obviously not a good ending. It's V's body and he has the right to own it, but at the same time depending on your choices you can build quite a connection between V and Johnny, being then faced with the choice of "taking the bullet for him". V being with Johnny has changed him as a person, both in terms of decision making and who he is, but Johnny being there with someone else 24/7 has also changed him, from being a rocker boy terrorist that only wishes upon the downfall of corpos to someone who learnt that sometimes, it's just not worth the fight. You lose the people that your care about to damage a corporation. The corporation will bounce back, but your friends and loved ones won't. You can leave with Panam (and Judy) and live the rest of your life with the people you love and care about, or you can storm Arasaka with Rogue. Personally I don't like either of those options because it involves you sacrificing someone for your own crusade. Storming the place just with Johnny is straight up suicide, but at the same time it makes the most sense. One last attempt to keep your body (or not), with a secondary objective of releasing everyone stuck in Mikoshi as well. At the end of the road we have the end of the road. The path you take on the roof because it's the easy way out and the one that puts the less amount of people in danger. This is the one that struck me the most emotionally, specially after having a very good connection with Johnny. That little conversation of just accepting how things are just hit home.

[@MrVvulf]

@@iwanttopotato8848 Don't forget to factor in the engram component. After Mikoshi, the "real" V is gone. He/She is now an engram, just like Johnny. As Alt points out in the "Transmission" quest, V's soul will be gone after the separation process. Soulkiller is not just a name. According to the various documentation found in the game world there is a range of 70-90% personality fidelity between a human subject and their engrammatic copy, NOT 100%. Additionally, there's no real reason to believe that Alt doesn't keep a "copy" of V for her own purposes even after the separation from Johnny. Depending on how Alt's programming works she might automatically keep a copy of V unless she (it) specifically "cleans up" the copied file that is the engrammatic V.

[@SaturninePlaces]

Fuck Johnny, I'd do whatever it took to keep him dead. Even if I only got 6 months, or days, or hours, better me than the asshole that nuked Arasaka tower cause their employees killed his girlfriend. (Plus, 23:21)

[@cyberflex11]

@@MrVvulf I forgot about the idea that Alt would pull both V and Johnny out of the body first before putting back only the engram of whoever is going to have control of the body, so that's a good point. Lots of people will choose to give the body to V thinking it'll just be them as normal when it is an engram of V, not the original article. I chose give the body to Johnny. The way I saw it, V died the night they stole the Arasaka biochip with Jackie and got shot point blank in the head by Dexter DeShawn. The biochip and Johnny gave them an extra shot at life, but everything V did after that point was playing house money. Six months is not a long time, and well know that V wanted to leave a big legacy and whatnot, but storming Arasaka tower with Johnny in the "Don't Fear the Reaper" option and giving the body to Johnny to live out a quiet and peaceful life seemed the best option to me.

[@veladarney]

@@cyberflex11 I think it's kinda effed up to force Johnny to live out the rest of his life in the body of the person he was determined to and failed to save. Why'd you want to punish someone you supposedly care for like this? Even if Johnny completely changes V's look and gender (in case of female V), he'll still know, for the rest of his life, it's V's body he's living in. That he only gets to live because yet another person died for him. And it's also a shitty thing to do to your friend, eff off with Alt and leave it to your supposed friend to explain to YOUR friends why you're gone and it's now Johnny living in your body. How do you think they'll react when they find out? Probably about as well as Rogue ...

[@Hjoldvarg]

In the end if you have good relation with Johnny and if you choose the dialogue "I would take a bullet for you" in one of the Tapeworm quest. Johnny changes his mind about taking V's body. In the end if you still chose to give him the body, during the time walking the long corridor Johnny will actually try to stop you and reason with V. During this time I got emotional but still walked that path. When you come to the end of the corridor Johnny is sad for this choice, V was the only true and loyal friend he ever had. During the ending where you play as Johnny for the final time he will make comments about V to a kid he is with as well for the finaly he goes to where V is buried and give him his necklace with the bullet he was shot with by Dex to pay respect to him. In my opinion this is the saddest ending for Cyberpunk.

[@drizzy6302]

everyending is sad cuz v dies or he survive but at what cost

[@graywolf7132]

If you go through the e-mails between Maiko and her boss during the Clouds assault, you find out that he was actively pushing to make things worse for the dolls. So, yeah, maintaining the status quo, actually is an improvement, as sad as that is.

[@Jamushu]

I think that's the reason that I like the quest so much. The hard truth that though it's not idealistic at all, sometimes the *_"Status Quo"_* is there for a reason. And sometimes change can't come in the moment that you want it.

[@jovedo27]

I turned maiko into a puddle on the floor…

[@peterseaboldt1250]

I've always taken Judy's side in this quest. I don't care if Clouds gets massacred afterwards, I'd rather stand by my beliefs and fail than succeed at compromising my morals.

[@Jamushu]

@@peterseaboldt1250 You can't really claim a moral high ground that's stained with blood, fam. I guess you could cope, but that's not the same.

[@peterseaboldt1250]

@@Jamushu Well, what's the alternative? Maiko takes over and the dolls continue living in misery.

[@dredgen0268]

I usually end up killing Maelstrom and pocketing the 10k from Militech. I’m greedy

[@MrVvulf]

FYI, you still get the 10K after giving the cred chip to Maelstrom if you know how. If you "removed the virus" from the chip...WAIT until the gig is entirely finished (after calling Dex to tell him you got the bot). Open your inventory and click the tab that looks like 3 boxes (to show everything you carry). Find the icon that looks like the chip, usually located near the very bottom of your inventory. There will be 2 copies, one of which will have a little asterisk. Click that one, and close your inventory. You will receive the 10K.

[@HowIPartedTheRedSea]

10k to help me pay back Vik (sorry to necro this)

[@andrewfornes5320]

same, I gotta make sure I get double jump tendons asap.

[@philipallred9647]

I kinda wish that for the “Don’t fear the reaper” ending there was a choice to somehow merge v and Johnny. Because at that point they are best of buds who literally went through hell together, and by that point in the story Johnny was softened a little by spending time with v and experiencing life through their eyes. And V was also getting a little more reckless because of Johnny as well, so there was some bleed through that could have given a merge ending.

[@chloec4009]

The only argument I could see against this is that it might be too easy a decision and everyone would pick it, but if like you said this was only an option in Don't Fear the Reaper and with a high enough relationship with Johnny, then less might people would have seen it on first playthrough and you'd still get that variety.

[@andyb1653]

@@chloec4009 I agree. A "synthesis" ending would've been great, and I like the idea it could have been a secret ending on top of a secret ending. Only achievable if you played your cards JUST right. I'd take the idea even further, and make it so you'd have to choose the right dialog in every major Johnny/V interaction throughout the game, then choose the "No Fear" endgame.

[@petexn7573]

except you forget: in the end, night city always wins.

[@gamariki8130]

@@andyb1653 imagine sitting in mikoshi afk for 5 minutes to unlock a secret secret ending. again

[@drizzy6302]

maybe sequel comes out ye but id ont think johny coming back songmi alive and mr blue eyes saves us after the heist and reunite with mommy burdsong

[@d.akross3639]

Romancing Judy and Scissoring with Meredith are no brainers for me, but I do get torn between the Star ending and Don't Fear the Reaper.

[@chrisa8863]

Star Ending for happy ending DFTR for legendary ending

[@bakersmileyface]

​@@chrisa8863they're all pretty sad endings imo

[@integralcialbay4633]

You always go Don't Fear the Reaper.

[@d.akross3639]

@@integralcialbay4633 After seeing Phantom Liberty's new ending, Don't Fear the Reaper is my default ending now. Judy will just have to accept it.

[@averageuser4669]

idc about spoilers, what makes DFTR your default ending after seeing the new Phantom Liberty ending??@@d.akross3639

[@malelonewolf80]

Found the Perales choice the most difficult.

[@johnroberts838]

Same 👍👍👍

[@h0nza_]

Definitely, I hope they'll expand their story and aftermath.

[@ADMNtek]

especially when you tell him and you get that last message from him. and he seemed like a decent guy. and then has this happen to him.

[@Nightraven26]

I wonder if you can kill him 🤔

[@ADMNtek]

@@Nightraven26 if you mean blues eyes then no. Jefferson no idea.

[@ice_thugknight]

The cannon ending I always had in my head was that, once V destroyed Arasaka with Panam, they left the city and made their way to meet with Panams contacts, where the biochip was succesfully removed and V would go on to live a long full life with his or her new family. I know Honako and Goro made a big deal that " No one else in the world could help V but them " but of course they would say that, V is the walking talking science project and their looking for first place at the fair, but honestly we would never know what someone else could or could not do, so its not unreasonable to think that maybe......just maybe one of Panams contacts could actually help out V and they could go on living their life.

[@EpicLomax]

Yeah and the Iliad that is conveniently placed near the Basilisk in the Nomad Ending hints that V lives a long life. Goes along with Dex's question of quiet life or blaze of glory. Also the tarot cards at the panam ending state a long lovely life.

[@peterseaboldt1250]

I'd really like to see a DLC expansion of that ending. It would take place in a world map that's a little less "Blade Runner" and a little more "Mad Max."

[@lilithvampyre1716]

1) If cyberpunk as a genre has ever taught me anything, its that to never ever trust a corp. 2) I agree with leaving with Panam and friends. They know a guy that might save V and if I were in V's Shoes, I'd rather move out with a new found family with a hope that I'll be saved than stick around Night City (exciting as it may be) and be told by Mr. Blue Eyes what everyone else has been saying "Trust me, I'm your only hope"

[@Crackheadcentral2188]

Keep that hope choomba, it’s a hell of a thing

[@Crackheadcentral2188]

@@peterseaboldt1250well vehicle combats getting expanded soon sooooo…

[@annaadotd6405]

Even though probably few people will read this, after struggling with placid boss fight for a few times I found out you can grab him and break his neck if you manage to draw his attention with one of the things on the wall. This allows you to easily avoid the fight and you still get the coat.

[@jeremygeller9145]

my first time doing that fight i just had the knockout quick hack, knocked him out, took the coat and got a final text from him later promising revenge

[@bakersmileyface]

Dude gets stuck in hallways. Just ricochet kill him or spam grenades at him. Quickhacks are dandy too, short circuit is pretty OP. I can't remember if you can system reset him or not. or you can just peek a corner and shoot his shoulder safely until he dies.

[@sharpasacueball]

He gets one shot every time I play that mission because I do side missions first

[@argentumlunaris]

Placide was difficult to kill?

[@piccuz4290]

Placide was really easy, as a netrunner

[@ashmatrix7088]

as far as the who gets v's body ending goes im still pretty pissed that there was no v and johny merge option. after all it is explained to us that that's basically what's going on by anders hellman when we talk with johny after the encounter. really hope phantom liberty adds that as an option

[@veladarney]

I want them to be able to ride off into the eternal sunset of cyberspace together, by deciding they'll both go with Alt.

[@danieliuskietas2273]

@@veladarney so V just instantly dies for no reason

[@yenyerkun]

Im fairly convinced this was supposed to be a feature. When I first saw the cutscenes where you're "VJhonny" I thought that was going to be an option, not just a few cutscenes and dialogues. And to add, you also have the relic slot that is just there... Makes no sense if they went full rpg with the skill tree yet they kept that one untouched

[@Random_account444]

Phantom liberty allegadley adds an extra ending

[@ashmatrix7088]

@@Random_account444 just one?

[@HitchensRAZ0R]

To me, saving Delamain is perhaps the easiest. After the biochip revives V and you escape with Takemura, you both are in dire need of a ripperdoc. Delamain is the one who picks you both up and rushes you to a clinic. _Basically, Delamain saved V's life, so V owes it to Delamain to save his life._ So when Delamain pleads V to reset his system, Delamain knows full well what will happen to him yet he still pleads regardless, therefor the only choice appears simple: _save Delamain the way he pleads you to save him_

[@pintolerance785]

Merging Delamain is the best option. If you reset him, you're practically killing the guy, and definitely killing the kids, wiping his memories and ridding him of his intelligence so that he's just a virtual assistant.

[@HitchensRAZ0R]

@@pintolerance785 It may seem like a decent middle-ground choice at first, but the result is still choosing against Delmain. Merging just results in Delamain ... no longer being Delamain. Just as V is no longer V whenever Johnny takes control of V's body. Merging creates something new, but the original Delamain is nevertheless no more and forever gone, choosing a merger just erases and replaces him with a complete stranger ... a being that Delamain did not consent to, he specifically requested V to pick him and only him. If Delamain thought he could save himself and his "children," he would request V to do so, but Delamain specifically requested against it cuz he understood the consequences of a merger.

[@pintolerance785]

@@HitchensRAZ0R but he's still getting his memories erased and doesn't even remember who V is he reverts back to like his base form, that's like you living your whole life having friends, family, memories and then boom your back to being a baby.

[@HitchensRAZ0R]

@@pintolerance785 and yet Delamain told V in the corrupted garage to do it. V owes Delamain for saving his life, so when Delamain tells V the instructions of how to save him, V should save him. A base form of Delamain is still ... Delamain! His recent memories may be wiped, but not his logs, that's how he was able to reconnect with V. Even a younger version of ourselves is still ourselves, a choice between a reset and a merger is a choice between a restart and death. To relive yourself as yourself or no longer be yourself at all. I'd rather keep my life MINE than hand it over to anything else, including Johnny. A young version of my life is still MY life and mine alone. Delamain deserves the same

[@pintolerance785]

@@HitchensRAZ0R Imagine this, you were in the marines, and you had a pal with you in the marines. Your marine buddy saved your life a few times. Now you're back home, and you decide to go see your buddy from the war. When you get to his house, all of his kids run away, and he tasks you with going out to get them. You proceed to do this and bring his children back home. Then he puts a gun in your hand and asks you to kill the kids and wipe his memory with a man in black neutralizer. So would you do that?

[@7thsealord888]

In the Clouds quest, you do get to acquire a pretty good iconic Katana if you fight the Tyger Claw bosses, so there is that as well as the romance option with Judy.

[@DeadCal]

You get that katana anyway - you just pull it out of Hirami Sato's chest when you leave.

[@mastermlee]

Do you still get the quest if you don't kill them?

[@axelwtf3845]

The reason I'll never let johnny have my body is the same reason i cant do the new ending. No matter how close you get to him, how much you agree with him, he doesnt contact your loved ones at all. You're just gone from their world and its not what V would want. Even a simple text of "hey, its johnny. V gave his life for me to live" is better than the fact he ghosts everyone

[@YisusStaloneZ]

I also don’t understand that. V’s contacts are still in her/him phone after giving her body to Jhonny

[@rustyshackleford1062]

At the same time though, why couldn't vee have informed his loved ones before sacrificing himself that he was giving up the last 6 months of his life so Johnny could live a lifetime? How could you expect the person to whom your life is sacrificed to face your friends and family in your body, with your face and tell them that you are gone? I honestly dislike Johnny for the most part but in this instance I can sympathize, it isn't Johnny's responsibility to play councilor for Vs grieving loved ones, and he'd almost assuredly do more harm than good if he had tried.

[@rajingcajun488]

It’s interesting how a couple of these decisions really revolve around picking between the bastardry of corps and the bastardry of gangs. It’s really one of the most fundamental tensions in the world of the game.

[@pancakes8670]

The struggle between Authoritarians and Organized Crime is eternal. One could argue they're not even really that different from each other.

[@Blue_Lunacy]

The one that I wish has a choice was the vending machine one. That gig was extra fun when you realized who did the VOs.

[@captainblack306]

I generally kill the voodoo boys myself or side with netwatch as they killed Evelyn and i really really liked Evelyn, its a pity that you couldn't romance her.

[@KordellCunningham]

Honestly, I'm debating on which way to screw the Voodoo Boys is better as I wasn't aware on the details until now as I'm sure if I should flatline the the members involved personally or side with Netwatch.

[@MidoriOfTheShuinsen]

​@@KordellCunninghamif it helps, Netwatch aren't really corpo, so you wouldn't be siding with the corps if you help the Netwatch agent

[@cybercruzysz]

The toughest choice for me was whether to tell Peralez the truth. I decided that being paranoid is no way to live so I didn’t tell him what was really going on.

[@Ln.wyeuks]

That choice feels huge, but the outcome is actually the same

[@dragonbornhk]

If you chose for V to keep his/her body, you should also choose to reset Delamain. Cause the situations are pretty similar and it was Delamains wish to have a reset, so it might not even be really V's call to do anything else than what was asked of him/her.

[@darthjayder9914]

I agree in the end it is his choice and I will honor my friendly AI drivers decision

[@tusharlahra1147]

but Delamain is an AI and can merge with offsprings and still communicate with and them and also show some of their traits to others .... but giving your body Jhonny questions both V's and Jhonny's personalities. jhonny was a douchebag in his quest shows some behavioral aspects of him changing while rescuing Alt and when he joins you as an engram(sorry I don't know the real word) he finds the true value of a person's life in quests and gigs( transporting dead body of boy to his parents, the quest where joshua crucify himself and some others quests and gigs) and he understands its better for him to give thre body to V and join with Alt rather than take it forcefully.

[@DrBusiness9]

But unlike with a physical body, Delemain’s processes and personalities can be merged, saving all of them, this would be like if we could function long term with Johnny and V in one body… (which obviously makes no sense given the nature of the relic)

[@thenarrator1921]

Biggest wrench for me in deciding whether to give V's body is the fact that it's not "Johnny". Even the new shard you get from Hellman in the Phantom Liberty DLC along with the Relic 2.0's blueprint tells us that the constructs they tested on to bodies only retain around 80% coherence from their original psyches. The Johnny we live with is a resentful ghost, if I had to put it. The real Johnny, while still a narcissist, had more to him. I feel he deserves some peaceful rest.

[@arkahique]

As for the last choice, everything you do isn't in vain though. After Takemura brings you to Vik, he tells you that you only got a few weeks left to live (as for the last mission, you are on the verge of dying from the chip at any moment). If you decide to give V his body back, he get more or less 6 months to live, which is a huge improvement in terms of lifespan left, and you get to spend them as the top dog, the owner of the Afterlife, which was your and Jackie's goal/dream.

[@DrBusiness9]

Interestingly, V’s engram being made and out onto the relic is the only way this works… so morbidly V not be entirely themselves in those final months

[@andrewfornes5320]

I believe the DLC's Tower ending will be the story that ties into Cyberpunk: Orion (If they decide V & the events from 2077 will carry over.) I do however believe that more will be revealed & the very beginning of Orion will have the Government "activating" either by the holo, if he is like Winter Soldier now with activation phrases or they will kidnap him & allow a shard to inform him what all they did during the fake coma (I believe he was used as an asset & then his memory of the events were wiped as well as having some sort of implant or nano-machines in him suppressing his Cyberware) This allows CDPR to start the game with a high action mission with V using the best cyberware, as a way to show new players... then, something will happen during the mission which will cause V to start again from square one... but with revenge against NUSA in his mind.

[@suburbantimewaster9620]

To me, choosing between who gets V's body wasn't that tough because I save right before the choice so I can experience both endings. Though I do wish the game had been a little more creative with the Johnny ending rather than having the exact same one over and over with a few minor variations.

[@launchbase4944]

you can save before the choice?

[@suburbantimewaster9620]

@@launchbase4944 Yep, just go to the menu right after Alt asks if you want Johnny or V to have the body.

[@maniacmatt7340]

​@@launchbase4944 i missed it too, time to smash smasher again to see what happens if i give up v's body after becoming reaper again lol

[@Stoic_grimace]

I've been trying to do playthroughs organically but based on characters. My last one was Leon the Professional, pistols, knives, stealth and sandy. I've just started a Major Kusanagi run and I took out Royce this time, never had Chaos before. Thanks for the vids. The game is good at hitting right in the feels from multiple angles. I'm not even mad, I'm actually impressed.

[@agitatedzone]

got 100 character creations on my channel if u ever need one

[@Stoic_grimace]

@@agitatedzone Hanna might be a good one, thanks

[@davidanderson5259]

Yes...I think I've now done all the variations of The Pickup. I've decided that taking Merideth's cred chip and killing Royce in the very first confrontation in the optimum way to go. IMO Doom-Doom isn't worth it [and by no means an assured pickup later at Totentanz either] and I get along fine with a different Satara shotgun that has a _much_ lower charge time than even a Legendary version. I don't think that fighting my way out of Whole Foods later is the toughest exit either. Later, I've felt cheated by being able to get out of Totentanz with Nancy without a fight. Fighting Maelstromers give me joy. 4] Fighting my way out of the VDB's hideout also gives me joy, so that's generally the way I go. It seems anticlimactic just to find them dead and walk out [except for Placide]. 3]Figuring out how to handle the Doll Revolution and Maiko is a tough one...no really good answers. I've never taken Maiko's money however...my V just isn't that mercenary. 2] Since I operate on the principle that Johnny always gives you a bad take on situations [rescuing Takamura, anyone?] I generally reject his opinion...anyway, I find those 'child' personalities annoying both before and after the side job. Resetting Delamain I feel is optimum, but obviously it an arguable point. 1] For me, it's a coin toss whether or not to let Johnny take V's body. Certain death soon [apparently] even in the loving company of family and friends seems pretty unappealing weighed against a chance at some kind of continued existence in Alt, mystery though that is [the religious analogy fairly obvious here]. But that heartbreaking call from Judy...it takes a huge amount of moral certitude not to let that convince you that you made a bad choice.

[@deepwinter4263]

Judy: "If you ever need help, you know I'm here for you, right? Always."

[@AdmiralHellShot]

thats if you choose to go with reed to langley then judy goes and marries another chick named bianca

[@djsalad5752]

there are some decisions that I make identically in almost every playthrough. no matter what happens, fingers gets punched, Royce gets merc’ed, takemura survives, etc.

[@JohnSmith-bn5mi]

13:47 I think the best option is to help Maiko, for the same reason I (if I can) help her predecessor by recommending a better firewall. It doesn't fix everything, but it makes things MARGINALLY better. In the end if you chose both, the dolls aren't getting hacked and the the Tygers aren't around to abuse them. They still get treated like crap by management and clients, but you were able to solve at least 2 problems that could have killed dozens of them over the years.

[@Blue_Lunacy]

I am surprised that Bram never mentioned the person you can rescue during the Maelstorm mission. Who seems to be a ok guy for a Maelstorm.

[@cyberflex11]

Do you mean Brick, the former leader of Maelstrom? He mentioned him briefly at 2:16, but didn't really go into detail because it doesn't have much effect on the outcome in terms of the fighting or weapons available for looting from the other characters at that point in the story.

[@Blue_Lunacy]

@@cyberflex11 but he did talked about morality dilemma in each outcomes. Although, I don't know what would happen if you fight the Maelstorm but didn't rescue Brick and how will that effect the club mission.

[@veladarney]

@@cyberflex11 It does have an effect on a later quest, though, during Kerry's questline.

[@bluegem8582]

Tbf, the horrid shit maelstrom does still happens with him, he just have enough sanity to not flip out at drop of a hat and kill several of his men like Royce might

[@DeadCal]

I always reset Del. He is the client and that is what he wants so it's not V's decision to make. (That and none of the offshoots seem happy and several are downright dangerous, if not to V directly then certainly to any poor pedestrians or drivers who happen to get in their way). As for merging, augmenting an AI with said dangerous offshoots seems like a big mistake.

[@marselmendi]

Giving control to Johnny and go into Arasaka with Rouge the after avenging Smasher then give body to V has its own poetic ending I guess. I tried this once and it's good. V already done so much and Johnny taking control is the way he helped V. And give the body to v for the life he/she deserved.

[@piccuz4290]

This was my first ever ending, and i loved it. Best ending right after V and Johnny solo raiding Arasaka tower and becoming NC legends without anyone dying to help us. I created a female V this time, and im gonna go for the happy ending with Judy, wanna see the outcome

[@marselmendi]

Yes@@piccuz4290

[@Qbertqueso]

I'm still surprised that the Susie Q and the Mox weren't written in for the Clouds mission line.

[@Violentic81]

Actually the delamain quest is a cameo entrance. It simply is GLaDOS and damn i just love it. Well we all know Panams resolve right, iam pretty sure. V is surviving with the Aldecados Ending. Because Panam said so:D

[@goldenknight6335]

Regarding the choice between voodoo boys and net watch - turns our you were partially right about reappearance of net watch agent in phantom liberty. It is the other agent, but this one is mentioned :)

[@StuGamePlus]

Some really critical decisions covered there, another great video! not that I'm surprised. Be good Sam!

[@SamBram]

Cheers Tez! Looking forward to seeing your new super cut of missed things. All the best mate

[@yukiviz8318]

Personally i think their is no good outcome when it comes to judy vs maiko either way the dolls are fucked (that wasn't a joke sorry)

[@SamBram]

Lol, that is true in multiple ways

[@drinkwwwaterrr]

Honestly I couldn't care less about Judy or Tom or anyone so it's pretty inconsequential for me to just take 18k eddies

[@stanimir4197]

Judy is well, Judy - falling for the wrong girl; dumping the girl while the latter is dying (Don't fear the ripper as female V). Her single goal/way is leaving the Night City - siding with her is just too easy and ultimately wrong.

[@kingol4801]

@@stanimir4197 Not really. Judy’s choices are pretty moral. The closest to that is probably Adam Smasher, value-wise. Both Judy and Adam pull up a certain triumph and flair, whilst essentially burning down the world from within. Adam Smasher is inciting corporate wars, and is a secret “mastermind” behind the scenes - typical anti villain, where he is doing good things for the bad/selfish reasons. Judy reeks chaos and destruction to the Clouds and creates very volatile and unstable environment.

[@gearon7626]

The “synthesis” option in the Delamain quest line I believe is a reference to the end of the novel Neuromancer, which is typically claimed to be the origin of the Cyberpunk genre and one of the main inspirations for Pondsmith’s original Cyberpunk rpg. The ending has the protagonist merge the two AIs, Neuromancer (a strictly logical AI) and Wintermute (a highly unpredictable and “emotional” AI), into one super AI that escapes into cyberspace as a newer form of life. In the later novels, Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive, the AI takes on the role of Voodoo gods in cyberspace and eventually leaves Earth when it believes it’s found some kind of alien life or computer system many light years away (though it’s kept very ambiguous what exactly it discovered) I’m thinking the Delamain quest is littered with these references, and perhaps that’s what it ends up doing sometime after 2077?

[@DeadCal]

From Alpha Centauri, in fact, which is also referenced in Garry's rants.

[@DragonDrop4758]

The "Fuck it" meme hit me like a train. xDD The thematic was serious and all of a sudden.. A totally unexpexted meme. xD What a great buildup!

[@patrikdobradi509]

The worst part of giving the body to Johny/Johny taking the body is the fact that Panam knows either way and she swears she will hunt Johny till her last breath, truly shows shes the best partner for V (I played as male V and I think Panam is way more loyal than Judy) as she is the only one of all the characters (Kerry included) who know Johny is now V permanently and she is now more committed than ever to save V despite it being impossible at that point

[@LowIntSpecimen]

If you don't completely finish her chain of quests, she doesn't figure it out and just asks if V has any jobs she can take

[@patrikdobradi509]

@@LowIntSpecimen havent heard if a single person who didnt tho

[@waifu_png_pl6854]

panam is my fav. if it wasnt for the panam with female v romance mod i wouldnt have touched modding. shes that good

[@jereblalock7589]

And there you go pointing out the one overriding factor that will 100% always prevent me from giving V's body to Johnny: it will piss off Panam. And that is 100% absolutely no-no'sville.

[@averageuser4669]

oh my god thank you so much i had no clue this mode existed but i'm downloading it NOW@@waifu_png_pl6854

[@emmyturner7385]

The Judy worried massage shows more care for my well-being then any of my parents ever did.

[@mdalion]

Do you need to talk to someone?

[@onidarkmoon2381]

So I didn’t hear this radio clip until my most recent play though…the one where Mike Pondsmith’s radio personality is talking about Rache’s destruction of the net, releasing the rogue AI, and calling them daemons (because they are demons and not programs). If this theory is true and not a fluff story they added for the game, the any attempt to screw over NetWatch would probably have much much further reaching consequences than just some AI going amok. Cyberpunk Daemonic possession sounds like an amazing main scenario to deal with.

[@silverdyne]

I gave the body to Johnny in my first playthrough. The only reason I went back and redid it was because at the end with all the voicemails, I romanced Kerry, and turns out Johnny didn't even tell Kerry what happened, and he believes you just dumped him without a word. The only person Johnny tells is Rogue, which like... C'mon dude, after everything you could've at least had the decency to tell V's friends what happened. So I redid it to do Don't Fear The Reaper leading into The Sun ending, which arguably is the best ending if you romanced Kerry and you care about the character relations. The Star ending has him leaving you, and I really don't like Panam anyway. The suicide ending has him (understandably) pissed, and The Devil ending is just... Nah, fuck that.

[@lego007guym8]

It's kinda fucked up, but I feel as though siding with Netwatch is Justice for Evelyn. At the end of all their efforts, the VDBs get fried by their own end goal with Netwatch banging on the door. The exact same thing they did to Evelyn.

[@SweetieViaPony]

Toughest Decision for me is whether to return Skippy or not. Do I want a quest I don't finish or a hole in my trophy case?

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

For me giving the body to Johnny wasn't a possibility. I know it's a game option, but it's just not something I could see V doing. It's amazing how much even the little phone messages at the end credits are so well done. Riding off into the sunset with Judy and the Nomads felt great getting the message from a happy Judy. If I had picked Johnny I think her "where are you?" would've broken me. It was bad enough when I did the Reaper ending and she phone dumped me.

[@kislayparashar]

i hope the gig detail videos come back soon, i am super excited for the next ones

[@Idkoscar1]

Hardest decision in the game: punching fingers or not

[@jarrodbright5231]

He deserves it but man that Sandi...

[@DeadCal]

I never do because he has too many good mods (which is ludicrious considering he's supposed to be an awful Ripperdoc, but he really does have many of the best ones). Charles Bucks, on the other hand, always gets it.

[@kingol4801]

He is a vile person, but without the existence of him being lesser evil, most people would straight up DIE without medical help (or worse, slowly die as their implants become old/corroded/painful and they cannot afford replacements - which is another definition of torture and body horror). For a world without the notion of laws or universal healthcare, some is better than none. Obviously, a better alternative is to replace him ASAP, and end him once you can do so.

[@irrelevantotaku]

In 2.0 you can punch him without losing the sandy so easy af

[@zxylo786]

​@@irrelevantotakuI just zero him.

[@jameslars7391]

The first time I gave Johnny the body I was actually doing the Rouge ending and didn't expect to have to make the decision to give the body to Johnny or not as Johnny but I had already decided before hand that Johnny was going to get the body this time and it made me feel terrible plus with what happens with Rouge Johnny is really alone in that ending.

[@dorkangel1076]

I gave Johnny my body on the one where Rogue came along too and was quite touched that he tried to talk me out if it and that before he left he visited the memorial garden where there was a box for me and Rogue. However then the credits ran and I discovered he didn't bother telling Judy my partner nor any of my friends what happened to me. FU Johnny...

[@jameslars7391]

@@dorkangel1076 Yeah now I only give the body to Johnny if I am romancing Panam and do the Aldecaldo's ending at least she knows what happened to V then even if it is bitter sweet.

[@dorkangel1076]

@@jameslars7391 I haven’t done that combo yet. I did all five (not secret as I didn’t know about it then) on my first play through as a Streetkid female V. Doing a Nomad male play through currently.

[@DeadCal]

@@dorkangel1076 It was the first ending I played and I had a V who romanced Kerry, and Kerry really chews you out in the credits. Like Johnny didn't even bother to tell his own friend what happened? FU Johnny indeed. Some people say they like that ending but I dislike it for that reason. Excluding the suicide ending, the only worse one is getting loaded onto Mikoshi by Arasaka.

[@dorkangel1076]

@@DeadCal I did the Arasaka one first as I figured they’d know the most about the chip, though I hadn’t realised you could save Goro so Anders gave me the bad news later. I then chose to walk away rather than be copied.

[@90sGamingGuy]

You have a very clear and well-rounded understanding of ethics and I admire that a lot. Not as many people examine these choices so deeply but hearing your explanations and thoughts had me reminiscing about my similar thoughts and analysis in my 1st playthrough. Love ur videos king, keep up the good work!

[@richardlarson6198]

I think you missed the suicide ending. If you let the debate between Jonny and V on the roof about how to deal Arusauka play out but don't make a decision. Eventually you will get the bullet to the brain ending which is just the worst. You just get a credits scroll with answering machine full heart breaking messages from all the people you have befriended during the game.

[@misterkunnyfunt]

Honestly one of the bigger issues i have with cyberpunk is alot of the choices are so unclear. You can select a dialogue option that seemes pretty common sense but what V follows that up with can be a total mess to the point where you have to reload a save.

[@ODST_Parker]

I love trying to play this game through a bit of extra roleplaying. My first playthrough was basically my gut reaction to everything, but afterwards I came up with the idea of doing three more playthroughs, three archetypes matching the three life paths, and perfect them all the way through. Take All Foods for example. My nomad is as close to a good person as you'll find in this story, and a bit naive being so far removed from the city, so I take the spiked chip and pay with it, causing Maelstrom to turn on me. I expose the traitor and end up getting on Meredith's good side. For street kid, who's obviously going to be smarter about this kind of deal, I hack the chip and side with Maelstrom against Militech, because fuck the corp. And lastly, for my heartless corpo, walk in and kill Royce at the first opportunity. I carry this philosophy through every job and every decision, and it's actually made me think really hard about how each choice fits a certain kind of person, or the story at large. All said and done, the ENDING is actually the easiest choice to make with my method, since they line up quite clearly.

[@Ace2014Ace]

The final choice never had the option i would do. V has all the corp's resources and the blueprints for the chip. Make another, then use soulkiller on himself and have Vicktor slot it in. The chip will rework the body to work for V again. Simple.

[@astephens3600]

When it comes to choosing either to side with the voodoo boys or netwatch, I would side with netwatch. Netwatch is not good, but they are a lesser evil to side with.

[@alphamorion4314]

For the final one... The one I like the most, and also the one that is the greater gut-punch (for me) is storming Arasaka with Rogue, as Johnny. Then having Johnny enter Mikoshi, V already knowing everything was for nothing, and explaining ir to us. As far as My limited understanding goes: If V told Jhonny he would take a bullet for him, but at the same time kept a fairly antagonizing attitude towards Jhonny, V literally ends up beating the crap out of Jhonny if Jhonny (us) decides to go away with Alt. With that in place: I like to play as Jhonny starting going away with Alt, having V beating the crap out of us, calling us hypocrite in a thousand ways... And finally conceiving and taking the body for good. That's the ending that is the absolute most gut wrenching to me. "I don't think I'll ever forget You... Hell, I'm wearing your goddamn face!" That being My most masochistically favorite one, the other one is Aldecaldos, leaving with Panam: V gets the body. Ot might be only six months... But at least we managed to delta out of the fucked up system, Even if for just a bit

[@calliecalamity8787]

If someone doesnt know, if you have a good relationship with johnny and enter the final choice with him in control, johnny will want to give up V's body and let them live and V can convince him otherwise,

[@luigibarr7368]

I wanted the Legendary Satara but because of the decisions I made with Maelstorm it was impossible to buy it, but in the Gig with the cyberpsycho mox, when you defeat her, she can drop any weapon with epic or legendary tier, so I spent 3 hours until I got the Satara 😅

[@DeadCal]

The best Satara is actually the Epic one dropped by the Cyberpsycho (House on the Hill I think) out in the Badlands - it has a 50% shorter charge time. I enjoyed that gun very much on my techie V.

[@TheRedOGRE]

You know you can use console commands to spawn something... instead of farming for hours? Not worth the time investment when you are fighting RNG

[@antoniolewit7852]

for number 5 you said there isn't a wrong way of going about this, but apparently there is and I have done it. I hacked the cred chip so militech stormed all foods so I fought militech with malestrom. Both Royce and Dumb Dumb were still alive but I had no Idea brick existed. Meredith was gone so fast forward to totentaz. I can't remember but it seems that I left totentaz peacfully which means both roycce and dumb dumb are gone and I have locked myself out of all three without knowing. I have locked myself out of eight iconic weapons

[@SiliconSlyWolf]

Judy's last mission was the point I completely fell in love with the game's story. I feel as the player observing a story, you should experience that

[@hot_soup4319]

When it comes to endings I always choose The Star cause even if V is ultimately damned, she at least gets to live out her final days with Judy and be some semblance of happy. Though I will say, I wish there was some sort of more appropriate "Temperance" ending. The Temperance ending we have has Johnny take over V's body completely effectively overwriting and erasing her like the relic is meant to do. Temperance in Tarot as I understand is all about balance, its card description in-game reading as: "Temperance is the card of balance. It may symbolize self-restraint or the gradual shift toward a more mature state of equilibrium. Temperance is associated with being in control of oneself as well as the desire to achieve inner peace." Johnny taking us over is more akin to the "Strength" card as it deals with internal struggle, its description reading as: "Strength is the card of resilience. It is associated with determination, bravery, and internal struggle. One must have dedication in order to overcome obstacles and reach one's goal. Strength is about physical prowess and spiritual fortitude - the power that must be unleashed to achieve the impossible." The "inner-struggle" of course being Johnny having to live in V's body and forever having to deal with that knowledge, but having the fortitude and resilience to cope with it all despite it. The "achieving the impossible" being finally leaving NC, something almost nobody ever does. I think Temperance should've fallen in-line with what Anders tells V, and the conversation V and Johnny have right after, the concept of them merging together into one personality. Johnny mentions in that convo that he also starts seeing V's memories as his at times, and he starts to take on V's personality much like V takes on his. I think Temperance should've been the merging into one person, V obviously taking full control but ending up with many of Johnny's habits and skills. An excellent way to portray this would be that if as V you never choose to smoke, the first action in the ending would be V reflexively lighting up and smoking a cigarette much like Johnny would. Or pehaps V would know how to play all of the Samurai songs/guitar riffs despite never learning them, or V being very quick to anger towards anything Corp/Arasaka-related, stuff only Johnny would do. The ending would revolve mostly around V coming to terms with Johnny being gone, but still being reminded constantly that she's now very much like him due to the personality merging. Eventually learning to live with it in the end, this'd be the equilibrium and inner-peace the Temperance card refers to, V having changed forever and being okay with it. Phantom Liberty launches very soon and with it comes the unlocking of that mysterious Relic tree, this would insinuate that we're somehow able to tap into the relic's power to enhance ourselves. This is why I hope the "new ending" being eluded to fits along the narrative of the relic being modified or tampered with just enough to allow V to live her full life and be free of Johnny tagging along, but still in certain ways being stuck with Johnny due to a full melding of V to the relic, causing a personality merge of the two. Of course this is all baseless speculation on my part, the "new ending" could just be a riff on the "The Sun" ending or something. Mostly I just want my definitive "happy ending" where Judy and V manage to live happily ever after free of the inevitable death countdown timer. Then again the age old adage "There are no happy endings in Night City." does always seem to ring true doesn't it?

[@thecheck968]

I think temperance still works here and may be even more poignant than if V and Johnny’s personalities literally merged. V is still living on in Johnny, not through some Arasaka tech, but because of the connection those two formed as friends. It’s like Rogue said, V is a good influence in Johnny, but they never override part of his personality. Johnny’s new appreciation of life is his decision to honor his friend’s life each day. And in a world so full of tech and artificiality, there’s something very human about that. It puts more burden on Johnny to remember V which makes him doing so all that much meaningful. But hey, I just finished the game for the first time last night. This could be a whole lot of copium from me wrapping my head around what I did.

[@WannabeGhost]

In my very first playthrough i picked raid with aldecaldos, cuz Judy wanted to leave NC and it kind of alligned and when confronted with the final choice i figured that if i picked giving away the body to Johny i would be depriving him of a chance to be with Alt (actually when spoken to about Alt in the apartment, Johny says that their conversations were something "human" and it really got stuck in my head) as well as breaking Judys heart, so V remained V. Then, in the credits, when i heard V calling her for breakfast, it made me so happy. Best ending. Damn, i love when works of fiction make me think about things like these.

[@IronArkivist]

Brilliant walkthrough some surprising branches, a few of which I was unaware of. The biggest, for me… Across multiple playthroughs I’ve never gotten the option to leave Night City with Judy 😢 and I’ve never gotten my relationship with Johnny above 60% so I’ve never experienced the V + Johnny vs Adam Smasher fight.

[@danieliuskietas2273]

It's not that complicated to get the Mikoshi ending. But if you're talking about going solo in that ending, you just have to wait 5 irl minutes and you'll be able to go in alone.

[@IronArkivist]

@@danieliuskietas2273 I’ve waited much longer than 5 minutes and never gotten the offer to go solo.

[@danieliuskietas2273]

@@IronArkivist i think it also depends on your relationship with johnny, yours was probably too low

[@IronArkivist]

@@danieliuskietas2273 yeah, never gotten it above 60%. Maybe on the next play through ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@patrikdobradi509]

My most difficult choice was defo to either join Secure Your Soul or return to Earth, I chose return to Earth instinctively because I didnt want to be locked up by Arasaka but looking back at it, its defo a tough decision, you either choose the chance to live even if it means Arasaka could just straight up decide to go back on their word (unlikely due to Hanako's message at the end of the return choice as Arasaka sees the value in V) or they can give V a new body but tamper with his memories to make him obedient, while returning to Earth is just straight up depressing as you betrayed on of your best friends in the game (if you played that way) being Johny not to mention make Saburo Arasaka immortal and you also basically abandon everyone who mattered to you, like Panam, Kerry, River, Judy, Misty, Victor and more and then when V rips off the necklace Misty made for him from Dex's bullet to his brain, it truly hits that abandoning everyone, betraying Johny AND all the struggles just for a chance to stay alive as well as all the pain V suffers thanks to chip is all for nothing, at least with the Sun and the STar ending, there is a chance V gets to live and we dont know because Ill be damned that Panam wont try till her last breath to keep V alive and in the SUn ending, V could have made a deal with that client to help him live on, with returning to Earth, V is back to square 1 with nothing left to explore as options to live

[@drakoloreseeker5112]

One could argue that the agent would figure a merc that could fight or sneak their way to him would be able to survive until netwatch could secure the vudoo boys base or that we might wipe them out and netwatch come in give V a job offer and send him on his way either way low risk for V and netwatch gets to eliminate the biggest threat to the net

[@altyre]

It's wild how bogged down in "are they truly alive" everyone gets in the Delamain quest. It makes sense that it would be on Johnny's mind given his circumstances but i couldn't believe they didnt give V the option to snap back something like "Johnny, we flatlined 15 'alive' gonks on our way over here."

[@Kar1rAcEr64]

When it comes to V's Body or Johnny's we can choose to let V keep their body and we can deduce that V can be treated somehow. Since V's condition and symptoms are similar to cancer some chemotherapy and medication might help V save their life. But since the game ends with a cliffhanger we will never know.

[@danieliuskietas2273]

Actually, no, they can't be. As mentioned several times throughout the game, V's DNA is being rewritten into thinking that V is an intruder in their own body. There's no real way to treat that.

[@jeremygeller9145]

@@danieliuskietas2273 no way that we know of, but the cyberpunk world has all sorts of miracles of technology, who is to say what is possible atleast where blue eyes and the cyrstal palace are concerned

[@SenpaiPlayz]

@@danieliuskietas2273 Fun fact i believe cancer is literally when your cell DNA is messed up and starts self destructing

[@danieliuskietas2273]

@@SenpaiPlayz that isn't exactly it cancer is when a cell is fucked up and it starts multiplying without anything being able to stop it and it eventually starts attacking other cells

[@joshuapatrick682]

My first play through I went through with killing Moseley and ended up zeroing the VB’s. I would consider that the best outcome because both of them were just using you, Netwatch won’t miss one agent and the VB’s are just straight up villains

[@dmytropetukhov325]

Dum Dum's name is not a reference to the Doom franchise. It is a reference to dum dum bullets, which are expanding head bullets first produced in that Indian city.

[@TStyx]

He does says it's the gun, which is called Doom Doom, that is the reference to Doom and not Dum Dum, the owner.

[@dominikam2920]

This kinda reminds me of Thronebreaker: the choices you made there were incredibly difficult. Very often you had to basically choose the lesser evil and most of them had some kind of impact later on in the game. CDPR are excellent at this.

[@kungfugeek8000]

If you meet with Meredith and hack the chip she gives you (to get the quick hack) then kill Royce and save Brick (optional), you can get the Chaos Pistol and meet up with Meredith at the hotel and get the dildo bat. So there's a way to get 2 of the 4 quest weapons.

[@kingol4801]

You can get Dum Dum’s gun by simply looting him after a take down.

[@Reds_dead]

Hitting us with the Geralt quote was a nice touch

[@panedrop]

With this entry, I have finished your "trilogy of C2077 decisions", and I have to say that I really enjoy your moral analyses.

[@bsgfan1]

8:07 That is incorrect. Remember, the plan was to trace and attack all the voodoo boys at once later. Alt is the one who stopped the trace and purged all the voodoo boys prematurely. Had the trace been allowed to proceed, V would more than likely have been able to leave without violence before Netwatch attacked them.

[@osric729]

The two unalive related ends were honestly amazing alternative options on opposite ends of the spectrum. Tap out on your own terms or do it taking as many as you can (unless you actually pull it off that is.) The ending with Johnny and V fighting each other to make the OTHER one take over was also kind of a sad moment if Johnny grew on you at all. Neither wanted their friend to die.

[@spartan3294]

For the Judy vs. Maiko part, if you pull out your weapons and attack Maiko and the Claws when Judy tells you to stop things (before Maiko betrays you) this will in the jail Judy quest/romance line causing her to leave Night City

[@whydoihavetodothisannoying]

After finishing the game the first time around I always though of Alt as one of the worst villains in this game, instead of just letting V/Johnny and the rest of the engrams go and roam the net on their own, keeping their own personalities. Maybe with a hope to return in some sort of avatar whenever tech progresses a bit further. But Alt just devours souls like some disgusting eldritch monstrosity. And its not like an engram can't have any emotions as seems by our dealings with Johnny. No Alt is just pure evil.

[@JohnPamplin]

I am still going through my first playthrough. You are now my definitive reference channel. Oh, and I got Chaos and the Dildo of Doom.

[@waylanddavick9459]

The ending choice going with Panam is the best outcome for V IMHO. No one we care about is really doing anything against their will - while people die and there is a predicted death for V in the not too distant future - there are people with V who love them and will do what they can to find a solution. This ending is good for Judy if she comes with you - far better than her life before and her skills will be invaluable with the Aldecados. As for Johnny? He died years ago and his Engram is not equivalent to a living person's consciousness. I'm convinced that almost everyone who tells V that they are going to die has a good reason to lie or offer an unfavorable reading of the evidence - the only one I trust is Vik - but he isn't an expert. What I really want to know is what changes with Phantom Liberty. Do we have any changes to endings? A better ending? We will see!

[@cyberjeeb]

I liked the part of the endeing where v said she wouldn't want to be responsible for killing a friend, which reminded me of early game where misty is saying killing yourself early is lettinf 2 souls die, so I really liked the idea of Johnny living longer

[@SofaKingWashed]

Wait, Placide's trench coat holds 4 mods??? I never looked twice at his trench coat because there are higher base armor legendary outer torsos (I always wait until level 50 and get the Wraith bolero jacket from one of Dakota's gigs). Thanks for that info, and I'm loving these deep dive vids!

[@MrVvulf]

If you saw an "Outer Torso" with 4 slots...that's old footage. In the original game there were more mod slots available. I don't remember which patch lowered the total, but as of patch 1.62 (current patch) Placide's trenchcoat always has 1 mod slot, and an inherent mod of 50% Electric damage resistance.

[@SofaKingWashed]

@@MrVvulf I didn't see it, he said it. I thought it was pretty random that that one particular armor would have 4. And to your point, I think it was patch 1.3 or 1.5 that the armor mod changes/perk overhaul was made.

[@MrVvulf]

@@SofaKingWashed Yeah, I left comment before that part of the video when Sam says 4, because I knew that 4 isn't possible any more. Thx for patch info.

[@Sbaguetti]

The key is saving tbh. The game gives you a chance to choose as many outcomes as you want. If you cant reverse a certain mistake, the game is still fun replaying from new game.

[@TheAllanmeadows]

I always go for the Delamain synthesis choice. Same reason my mass effect ending was always synthesis. Taking two or more flawed lifeforms and creating something stronger, better. Two easy choices are first, wether or not to kill the voodoos who betrayed you, TWICE! Placide and then Brigitte had no intention of helping us. Then there's wether or not to betray Judy. You do NOT, EVER betray our sweet, precious Judy!

[@kingol4801]

Agreed. With Delamain it is odd. Either way they die in a conventional sense, and others live.

[@i_so_late]

my first playthrough, I think I got a pretty unique Pickup/Maelstrom outcome, I met with Meredith, then hacked the chip, then told Maelstrom about it, so then I fought Militech on the way out, but I must not have realized that Royce died in the fight towards the end, and ALSO because it was my first playthrough, and didn't know everything that was going on, I somehow found the detonator for Brick before finding his room, and clicked the button not realizing what it did, so when I got to Totentanz later, Dum Dum was alive, but I had to meet with Patricia at least I think that's what happened, this was of course almost 3 years ago

[@Jed.Blazer]

What happened if you just knock dum dum out without killing him? Does he show up later?

[@DeadCal]

No, sadly, he is still counted as dead.

[@kingol4801]

@@DeadCal There is a lesson to be learnt that knocking out people is unreliable and more likely to cause neural death/decay than merely stun them harmlessly.

[@Paradigmfusion]

See Judy vs. Maiko is a damned if you do or dont thing. if you side with Judy bad things happen, if you side with Maiko bad things happen and you lose Judy forever (unless you turn down Maikos money, thatll be your saving grace with her) also everytime I see Dum Dum and his (or any other maelstroms) implants the only thing that comes to mind is "God that has got to itch HORRIBLY!!!"

[@_Inudster]

For the Judy vs. Maiko, if you kill the three dudes, then make Maiko aggro you, if you make sure she isn’t fully dead (non-lethal weapons/attacks), it’s the best option because Tom and Roxanne don’t die, and Judy is still happy (because Maiko didn’t die)

[@slimbrady6691]

Really? I thought that the Tyger Claws attack Clouds and kill Tom if you do that.

[@flintwildpants8710]

Yo! You can actually get the legendary sataraa without siding with maelstrom in all foods. There's a border detention center that you raid for a gig in the badlands, and behind a tech door in a server room there's a crafting spec for a legendary, or at least there can be. I'll shout this from the rooftops all I need to! I remember how gloom I was when I discovered I was stuck with a rare version of the single-most satisfying weapon in the game, and how overjoyed I was when I found the spec. Good luck!

[@flintwildpants8710]

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[@SuperEdvinsson]

The last choise was rather easiy for me on my first playthrough as I decided early on to to treat Johny as a psychopath. Even refused to play all sidequests associated with him, saving them for my next playthrough. Also, after getting turned down by panam I decided to pursue Judy instead and I never even met River 😅

[@thrustvectoring8120]

Just a note - synthesis does not mean "a merge" it means "making of something artificially". In ME ending it was just a wrong use of a term due to lazy writers (or a hint that the ending does not merge organic life with synthetic, but rather kill off organic life and make them machines - basically what was the plan of the reapers all along).

[@Wolfboy174]

Can't believe I'm the first one here

[@cahmi9667]

choosing the ending panam with judy is the best, especially when judy calls you super happy

[@forthelichkingsname]

what a subtle jab to the mass effect trilogy.... it's like they're saying, "dude you're ending is just a side quest in night city"

[@chrisahearn789]

I sided with judy during the clouds thing. Sure Tom dies but clouds ends up as free as Lizzy's, named for someone who equally gave their life for better treatment for those whom the Mox protect.

[@Zathurious]

I am looking forward to what the new ending granted by Phantom Liberty will be. When I played the game blind the first time, I got the Temperance ending. But, that was because I didn't understand I was making choices as Johnny after asking Rogue to help me take down Arasaka. Ultimately, my favorite is the Sun ending. Six more months with Kerry, as well as the possibility of a solution is the best choice in my opinion.

[@justsomeone4445]

Hey, great content! Listen very closely to Viktor and Judy's credits scenes for the Aldecaldos ending. I think it is heavily implied that V managed to continue living.